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This is for the dollar.

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Do you believe in miracles?

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Aye.

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I play chess, but only in 4D.

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I'm by myself, but they think I'm 4D.

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When they see me online, they think they know me.

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Go ahead, like and subscribe.

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You gotta show me.

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I apply pressure and they try to reject it.

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Clearly they ain't see I was a diamond, so they didn't accept it.

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Told me I was a failure, so I said,

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if it might even start my own schooling.

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Teach them a lesson.

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Yeah, I'ma call it self-harmony.

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Fly down south and get the salt popping.

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One day I'ma give you a walkthrough.

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And introduce you to this walkthrough.

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I know you lost, that's just dynasty talk.

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Cause you can't spot no franchise without no dynasty talk.

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I took a break from the game, nicked on my dynasty stock.

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Till I came back like when beiyama, I feel like coach pop.

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I can't say that I'm the goat, cause you ain't gonna agree.

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But if I own my own farm, I can make the goat.

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And me, the ladies love the beard, and they used to love the goat teeth.

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That's when I was a lamb, burn that music on CDs.

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I wasn't born in 88, December 87.

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I was 16 days away, might fly the dollars, why not?

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I just got paid today.

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When I land this dirt statue, I came to fade away.

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Check the timeline for the stories and the play by play.

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My life a Patreon link, you gotta pay to play.

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I worked 16, I was boy that's a 80 link.

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Ex factor like there's Brian, my boy 88.

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Watch Dreamlight when you living like a heavyweight.

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This ain't a one week thing, we ground like everyday.

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They know my destination, Devi, like I hang with Ray.

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They didn't know my name, I bet they know my name a day.

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Treat this mic like the ATM, let's make a trade today.

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Drop drop this on physical Friday, cause that's my favorite day.

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And I'm gonna do it my way, cause that's my favorite way.

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They tried to put me on the shelf like I'm layin' weight.

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Told me it ain't no way, so I made a way.

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Welcome to South Ham and I'm glad you here today.

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Welcome to South Ham and I'm glad you here today.

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Welcome to South Ham and I'm glad you here today.

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I'm glad you here today.

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Hit that Patreon link if you hit a stay.

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Huh?

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Treat this mic like the ATM, let's make a trade today.

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Welcome back in everybody to another edition of the South Ham and Spotlight.

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Proud to bring to you episode six, I can't believe I got six of these.

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This kind of started off as a pet project where I wanted to get in the space

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and talk to content creators and people in the fantasy industry

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and find out about them and what makes them tick.

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And I can't believe here we are at episode six and I'm really proud to present

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Derek Brown, a fantasy pros.

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D-Bro, you know him. He's joining me today on the South Ham and Spotlight.

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So first and foremost, what is up Derek? How are you doing buddy?

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My dude man. And you know I got a special place in my heart man.

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I love what you and Mike are doing.

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Excuse me, Adam is doing. What y'all are doing over at South Harman.

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A lot of love, a lot of respect to what the hell y'all are doing man.

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So first that shout out and man when you reached out and asked me to come on here,

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I mean I was just like, okay cool.

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I mean we're just gonna shoot the shit and sit here and talk ball and talk life dude.

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I mean there's no way in the hell I was gonna sit here and turn that down man. Come on.

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Oh man, you are an absolute legend in the space.

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You're an even better person and for people who think it's all just a facade, right?

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Like public Derek versus private Derek.

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I'm here to tell you at the Fantasy Expo I could say they're the same person.

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People don't believe that though dude.

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People are like, ah it's just he ramps things up to 11 or he's loud.

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It's like dude I'm loud all the time.

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Yes. Like ask anybody that knows me.

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Like this is not like any kind of like bullshit, no caricature.

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Like for lack of a better way of putting a dude, I'm gonna be me.

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I've always been me and people like I might not be your you know favorite flavor and that's fine.

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That's all good man. Lots of flavors to choose from out there.

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But I'm not gonna sit here like succeed or fail. I'm gonna be me.

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I don't know what else to do man.

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You do a great job of it too.

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One of the hardest working guys I probably know in the entire space.

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We were just talking about before we got on there too.

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Just how much work actually goes into being a fantasy analyst.

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This isn't to toot our own horns but I don't need any flowers.

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I don't need any props. Just understand that I don't just get on the mic and spit.

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I don't get on behind the camera.

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You know that article that you see that came out that took a shit ton of work.

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The prep everything else.

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We do a lot of stuff behind the scenes. It's not fun.

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Right? I talk with Adam all the time.

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I'm like you don't understand how much I hate doing bookkeeping.

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Running your own company is great.

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No but being the bookkeeper is the worst thing in the entire world.

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I hate it.

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Oh dude.

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And that's the thing man.

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It's like everybody wants to do fantasy football content.

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Everybody wants to be a content creator.

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And whether that's like just fantasy.

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Whether that's football.

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Whether that's NFL or you're gaming streaming.

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You're doing esports.

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I don't care. Whatever.

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It's like people don't understand the amount of work that goes into not only

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Like I could sit here and wax poetic dude like for the next 45 minutes

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about like okay I missed.

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I was not I was unable to write the primer in week one because I had COVID

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and did that stop me from like sitting at my desk and researching every single

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game whenever like I was good enough to like not be in the bed for 24 hours a

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day like so I could have the ability to talk about all these games when I felt

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better later in the week.

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The last two weeks for the primer when I've written it like I've pulled all

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nighters like both of those weeks which people do not go watch those YouTube

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shows for for starting sit and watch back like really really closely because

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both of those shows I was up for over 30 to 36 hours straight so I'm just trying

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to keep my eyes open and not look like crazy tired.

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I was like all right let's talk like I mean but that's what goes into it man

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and we put a lot of work into this stuff man because it's not just BS.

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It's not just smoke and mirrors.

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It's not just talking to talk like I do care about what I put out in the

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space and it really freaking matters to me like I'm trying to put my best foot

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forward and do that by putting in the work and putting in the time and just

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like you and Adam like that this is what we're doing and I'm not sitting here

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telling everybody all of this just like I don't need sympathy.

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I don't need a pat on the back.

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I'm just giving people the real I'm just trying to keep it 100 here and like

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tell people like really how the sausage is made and what goes into doing this.

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The behind the scenes is definitely different than what you see on camera.

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It's very different very different.

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So Derek what we do here on the South Armour spotlight is we just try to figure

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out about you and you and what makes you tick and how do you even get into the

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So think way back.

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How do you even get into fantasy football or fantasy sports in general?

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Like what was your first league?

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What was your first introduction to it?

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So shout out to my brother-in-law.

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My brother-in-law John got me into my first league ever and it was with a few

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buddies from high school and stuff like that and I still remember being like

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what is this and I got into it and I'll never forget because it will go down.

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The trades that I made and the pickups that I did and all that kind of stuff

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that first year was it was gloriously bad.

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because I drafted Doug Martin in his rookie season.

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The muscle hamster.

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And I traded him away in midseason for like I don't need like pennies.

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Like I think it was like Justin Hunter and somebody else.

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Like it was like it was so bad dude.

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And I'm watching and the guy that I traded him to was a guy I went to high

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school with and he just buried me just like just talk crap to me the rest of

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the year as Doug Martin went on this like league winning stretch run in that year

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and I'm watching it and I'm like and I think Justin Hunter got either got hurt

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or got cut or something like that and I was just like and he's like you came to me for nothing.

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It was like I will never forget that first year playing fantasy but that's like

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that's everything it's like I can tell you the first dynasty league I was in like

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when I first started even trying to understand what dynasty was and doing

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content and and getting into those leagues like I could tell you some of the

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most horrible trades that I've ever made were in those first few leagues like

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oh all right all right we're this is safe space right at him.

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Mike Mike with this safe space and I'm so tired right now I'm keeping mess with

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your the freaking name dude.

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It is very safe.

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I'm eventually going to get get on track here but first dynasty league one of the

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first ever startups I did I made a trade and this is again where I'm airing dirty

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laundry and we're we're being real here.

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I traded Todd Gurley and I think it was a first round pick of for next year and

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this is right after Gurley and had like the two like this is right this is the year

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that he went off but he was in the off season so I traded Gurley in a first round

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pick the next year and this is painful.

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I traded him for Sammy Watkins and Amir Abdullah and I never heard the end of it.

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Oh dude it was so bad.

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It was so bad but hey I'm just keeping it 100 man like I was never able that that's

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probably the worst trade I've ever made in like just period to where I will never be

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able to live that down but I mean it is what it is man it's just to show that

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like you got to start somewhere and you got to start making trades and like that's

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being like oh that's not great.

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To make you feel better one of the first.

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Please make me feel better because I feel like I'm hurting right now.

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One of the first dynasty trades I ever made I took over an orphan you know I didn't

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do a startup I took over an orphan.

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You took over an orphan for one of your first leagues.

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Very first.

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Well you are a sicko man.

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Took over an orphan team and you know I just wanted it to be my own.

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I traded away Austin Eckler for a third round pick.

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Here we are five years later.

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This is the same space okay I'm sorry I'm sorry I shouldn't have made that.

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We were talking about it was the same space.

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You didn't make any noises when I talked about my bad one I'm sorry.

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You got me feeling real good when you brought up Justin Hunter too because I had an affinity

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I was obsessed man I was like athleticism I was like yeah man he could be the dude.

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Yeah he was not a dude.

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He was never the dude.

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He was never a dude.

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He was the definition of you know the guy who you thought was going to be a stud.

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He'd look like a stud he'd even look like a stud in the preseason and then you get to

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the real games and it'd be like why aren't you playing.

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Why aren't you doing anything.

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capital and more hype because he went to a big school.

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I mean I was out there just making all kinds of glorious treats dude.

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Things you do you can't you can't make this kind of stuff up man it's just real.

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I remember selling a Willie Parker for uh for Michael Vick in a one QB.

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And uh yeah it was right right before the uh the bad part of Michael Vick happens.

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Yeah Willie Parker was the truth there for for two to three seasons man.

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He was good.

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I've had those I invested far too much capital in Matt Jones.

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Now Matt Jones the Arkansas quarterback.

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Oh the quarterback slash wide receiver.

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Oh he loved the uh the powdered sugar you know eventually.

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Yeah him and Jim are say both.

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Yep they both they both love that but the difference is one of them owns the team the other one.

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Yeah you know Satan's nose candy.

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What can you say?

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Satan's nose candy.

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whether you got lucky or not but like who who was a guy that you pounded the table for

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that you ended up getting through trade drafting whatever that paid off.

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Um one of the first years that I was doing rookie content or just looking at I'll never

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rookie season and George Kittle's second season in the league and I scooped up both of those dudes

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everywhere like firmly believed in Cooper cup like I was like you don't and it's funny man

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like I couldn't tell you what yards per out run was I couldn't even like I didn't even know how to watch

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film you know or and I'm still like I mean like look like I'm not going to tell you that I know

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ball as well as like all these like former you know professional players whatever and stuff like

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that but I try to marry all that stuff together but it's funny when you look back on like how far

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like your process has come or how different it is but I remember doing that show way back when

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and I was over the moon for George Kittle and I was over the moon for Cooper cup and two guys

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that I just had everywhere because I was like situation is ripe and this is back when

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um oh man you see you're old enough to remember all these narratives man it's like yeah well

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cow shanahan never uses his tight ends man like he doesn't use tight ends George Kittle will

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never do anything Cooper cup is just like small school whatever like he's he's old he's slow

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he's not going to do anything and I was just like ah man these guys can ball like and now it's

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it's just funny to kind of look back on stuff and like how all of that's kind of evolved um the

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more years I've done this Kittle was an interesting one you know uh you see he's on a he's on

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a poster back here right being an Iowa fan like I am he was an interesting one too because when

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he was coming out even out of Iowa we didn't really have this reputation like we put out good

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tight ends um you know it wasn't tight end you like it is now baby we'd put out uh we'd put out

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like Dallas Clark you know that was probably the most famous one in the early 2000s uh Tony

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Moyaki had a few good years with Kansas City now you got what Kittle Hawk Phant and Sammy

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of them and I don't think that's crazy Luke Lachey was definitely on a pace until uh that

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horrible tackle a couple weeks ago that fractured his ankle so he looked really good but we had

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like a Brandon Myers mixed in a Scott Chandler like some of these guys Brandon Myers you remember

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played for the Raiders for the longest time uh pretty pretty successful but when George Kittle

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was coming out you know fifth round pick nobody really cared he didn't really do a whole lot

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long catch and run versus Ohio State like a pretty long one and that was that was about the

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most I could give you out of George Kittle right he looked athletic but he was like oh he's too

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small but you had that whole corollary which was interesting with George Kittle going in

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because he was drafted at the same time C.G. at Bathurst was and Bathurst was actually making

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some noise about starting thinking about the the early Shanahan days we think of the 49ers

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early Shanahan days with the 49ers was disgusting it was uh it was C.J. Bathurst we had a Nick

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Mullen's experience it was we had some horrible quarterback play hey a lot a lot of wolf going

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on there and then you know then then we got the Jimmy Garoppolo experience so well shout out

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to you for taking a fifth round tight end and putting your staff of approval on them just

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off of traits or whatever whatever data you found way back when that there was like hey

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that one it's like oh nice he got drafted oh man I mean look and the funny thing is I'd

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still be in on George Kittle if it was today just elite athleticism it breeds elite upside

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at tight end love if you if you don't if you're not an elite athlete or you don't even can

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even check the box like for tight ends like I don't care like if you can't run the correlation

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is so strong if you can't run a four seven or below like if you're running the four eights

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no I don't even care about you at tight end if you but if you run the four sevens you got a shot

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314 yards wow I mean like what about those counting stats would you look at go damn this

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is what invested a fifth round NFL tight end you're right and then and then you look at

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also like the fact of like his draft capital all the narratives and I think like going into

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that he wasn't even projected to be the starter following the next season like he had a good

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like little stretch run I think in his rookie season if I'm remembering correctly but like

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the most like when I look back on it it was a combination of athleticism and then in small

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samples you did see like like my process now if I would have like like retroactively fit that on

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a George Kittle there's a lot on to his like deeper metrics like his 1.91 yards per route run

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as a collegiate athlete is fantastic like that is absolutely just otherworldly so like there are

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parts of pieces like marrying that plus his athleticism to where I can even go back and say

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I would if he'd come out this year I'd still would have been on him but I can't say that about

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every player there's a lot of players that like it's funny like even like two three years ago

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where I would be like I don't know what the way that I break down prospects now if I would be as high

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as I was on say Cam Acres or David Montgomery or just a litany of other players where I'm just like

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hey I think my takes now if I could go back in time would be very very different it's so crazy to

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think about to with the kiddo and I was just looking at San Francisco in 2017 who was on that

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roster some of the days it is you're like it's rough city baby it is rough Marquis Goodwin was

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there wide receiver one I think going into that next year that was crazy good Pierre Garçon on

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that team Trent Taylor remember the Trent Taylor oh dude I remember hey I got a lot of love for

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Trent Taylor okay shout out Trent Taylor that that dude comes he's from my backyard going from

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Louisiana Tech so I still will stand Trent Taylor to this day we had some some Carlos hide those

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were the whole the Carlos hide year where he caught a bunch of passes and everybody's like look he

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is receiving back and the rest of the NFL said he's not really receiving back not really Matt

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Brita back on those days really most it was just an afterthought here he is scoring touchdowns and

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dude speaking of I was I have always been in the takes are still out there I have been a old

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school Raheem truth or let's go since like there are probably tweets out there from 2018-2019

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where I was like I think it was the year that like Carlos hide got hurt maybe in training camp one of

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the training camp years somebody got hurt maybe it was Jared McKinnon and I was like it's Raheem

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it's Raheem the dream baby like there are takes that are still out there and in the in the stratosphere

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of my my OG most truth or status the following year then like he didn't even really get the whole

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lot of opportunity right there Matt Brita took over when Carlos hide was gone Alfred Morris they

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brought him back in you know during the old the old red skinned days with the old G3 and Shane

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Hads so crazy to think I've always liked Raheem most or two he started out on the Eagles did you

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know that he for two years couldn't couldn't really cack it every time you see him in the preseason

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though he looks so damn he was he was like a god in the preseason dude he was an all-star he was

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amazing in the preseason and then the Eagles just let him go here we are still out here doing

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stuff years later man tough one now I like that George Kiddler call especially the the correlation

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with me being from Iowa and you know listen you probably been outside of me just in in terms of

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years the biggest Sam Laporta truth or there has been there the biggest one you gotta believe in

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Sammy ballgame like if you don't believe in Sammy ballgame what are we doing here like I feel bad

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because it was just he's just like he's just out there just body like body bag and all these like

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takes about rookie tight ends cannot do anything and then Sam Laporta's like stiff arm like whatever baby

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I got it I feel bad too there because I I did this thing right I love Sam Laporta coming out right

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you know I've loved him for years I'm out here telling Ray you you use did you get did you get pushed off

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your love well I was I was years ago I'm telling Ray to check out Sam Laporta and I remember this right

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I'm telling him and I gotta like beg him to do it right he still does he still never did right then

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we get to this draft cycle Sam Laporta's getting draft buzz has a good combine gets a draft capital

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I'm like I told you I told you Sam Sam Laporta now I thought he was still going to be the under the

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radar guy and I think this is probably your fault yeah it's my fault probably at some point Sam

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Laporta got pushed up into the top 10 a dynasty tight ends like before doing anything right and I'm

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going listen man I love Sam Laporta but if you're gonna give me top 10 fucking prices on Sam Laporta

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I'll ship you ass out just on a process play I and here we are like I was telling people for months

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man you know just sell Sam Laporta I love them but sell them like if they're gonna give you these prices

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sell them and here we are three weeks into the season and I'm going fuck like like I'm at a weird

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spot because I'm I done messed up I'm jumping back on the train he's tied in three now let's go

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Kelsey Andrews Sam Laporta I don't give a fuck about any of the rest of them like would you take

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Sam Laporta or Kyle Pitts like for me Sam Laporta he's he's he's Sammy ballgame dude Sammy ballgame

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all day though yeah but that would have been a controversial like yes it's really funny like

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we're talking about trades in um in in a dynasty league I actually made a trade for I traded away

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Kyle Pitts for a late first and something else I forget what else the other change was but it was

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basically I traded Kyle Pitts for Sam Laporta and something else and now like Twitter would have

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been a good trade for me that trade like preseason nobody burying that trade nowadays baby nope nope

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Sammy ballgame man I love it I love Sam Laporta and I'm telling you if you like Iowa tight ends you

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know just come to me I'll let you know who the next one was you don't give me the goods right now then

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who's who's the next one Luke Lachey will be that guy we'll have to see our recovers from this ankle

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injury you're gonna see him for the rest of the season because uh we had one of those tackles where

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you go around and drag it down and and then your your joints are like the same thing like good luck

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the same thing that happened to Tony Pollard at the end of last season yeah that that kind of tackle

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so that's what happened to him so he's out for the rest of the year so not good but an above or up

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he was he was definitely on pace he's he's kind of that next guy now a little bit different more in the

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Luke Musgrave kind of kind of role than this George Kittle Sam Laporta mold so but he's that next dude

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so it'd be interesting to see oh I love we could share love on Sam Laporta and I get to out myself

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as a fraud because I doubted him for a second hey man look I we said this before we turned on the

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mics and the cameras but you cannot enjoy the W's if you're not willing to sit here and eat the L's

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as well and I'm not saying it's a it's a big one but I mean the other thing about it is like I think

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that's another thing like a bigger talking point just about like in the space right now and correct me

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if I'm wrong and Mike but like there's such an echo chamber in just fantasy football content and stuff

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that like if you don't follow a lot of the echo chamber on narratives or players or player analysis

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or player takes that the consensus will try to just bury you on stuff or you constantly feel like

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you're fighting uphill and that's where I think like a lot of people will look at my like some of the

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things that I put out in the space and it's just like look man like I get that consensus can feel a

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certain way about a player and there are times where I'm going to be with consensus and there's times

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where I'm going to be standing in a pose to consensus and if I'm right I'm right if I'm wrong I'm wrong

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but I'm going to sit here and rest on my process and whether right or wrong like it's not me putting

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out takes and for everybody else out there like don't be scared to sit here and stand opposed to

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consensus it's okay if you're John Snow you're unsheathing the sword and you see the galloping

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board coming at you right that's okay like if you're if you feel good about your process you know

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whether it's this year multiple years and you feel like your process is sound like it's it's there's

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been fruit that's been there because of it then stand by it man like don't let people push you off a

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take so I'm not saying this just to my but like everybody out there man like it's just because

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echo chamber and consensus can get very very loud and people are like well Derek you're very very

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loud too what's like well sometimes you got to kick it up to 11 for people to hear you versus that

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consensus and people only really care about your else right yes like yes you can have the greatest

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same reporter take in the world and you look like a genius now nobody will be that shit people are

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still trolling me for my Tristan Ebner takes and I was like fine like I'm so sorry about the fourth

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round pick and rookie drafts that you you you you got Tristan Ebner I'm so horribly like I'm

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despondent about the last round pick of your redraft leagues right you you try to get Tristan

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Ebner as a flyer I'm so I'm sorry I'm so sorry that that buried your teams you know like these are

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low hit like probability hits for a lot of these guys like I'm not telling and I never told anybody

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even out there but that context never hits the airways like no did I ever tell anybody to draft

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like said player in the second round of a rookie draft no did I tell him to take like for you to

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take him in the sixth round of a redraft league no but like what I'm trying to illuminate to people

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is that like the process is there like there are players that come out of the woodwork and hit correct

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so I'm sorry like you control me for all of these takes all you want to if that's what your goal is

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on every single day have at it like I guess whatever that's fine but I'm going to still keep putting

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the takes out and I'm still gonna follow my process and sometimes it's right and sometimes it's wrong

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like you're my dog like underneath my feet like shaking off of my like what are you doing this is also

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one of those things too now give you I'll give you your flowers on Pukinacua right oh boy baby you come out

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with the with the rankings right we're ranking the wide receiver class everybody does this shit rookie

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ranks and I want to say you had him at five or six overall I did I had my as a pre draft I had Pukinacua

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as my wide receiver five I had him in if if I'm remembering this right I had him tier three with

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Josh Downs and we're looking at it we're looking at it like this is me from an outsider and this is where

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we talk about perception and consensus like I need to pay attention to consensus and perception

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because in dynasty for me what I play majority of that determines market right terms market and league

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ADP everything okay but you look at it and let's just dissect this whether it's Pukinacua or whether

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it's some other wide receiver doesn't matter player X you come out with it and you say pre draft this

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wide receiver is is number five top five yeah consensus people like me are going to look at and go

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Jesus that's awfully fucking high we get the draft process and you go listen on talent pre draft he was

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still number five now here's what we need to keep in mind just as a community I can take the pieces

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of information that you put out pre draft why you had him so high your defense of that I can also take

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what consensus is going to say that Pukinacua at best I would have to spend a rookie fourth round

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pick on I know what consensus says I know what ADP says and listen I can take maybe at the beginning

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of the fourth I can trade back into the fourth and I could be loaded up with 7000 Pukinacua shares

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right I got 7000 dynasty teams I could have them on every single fucking one yep Derek what happens

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if you're wrong I lost a fourth round rookie pick who gives a fuck exactly if I'm right I just walked

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into something that even if I don't believe in a Pukinacua long term you better believe I can go out

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and get a first round draft pick everywhere you should be able to trade him for a 24 first right now

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or 25 first after I've turned it now and I have Puka in so many different leagues because the other thing

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about it is that like and I'll throw this out there too be mindful and shout out Reggie be mindful of the

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content that you consume because there I'm not going to say there are a lot but there are how do I how do

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I phrase this if I'm putting takes out there into the space I am drafting these players I am putting

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my money behind them in best ball or DFS or whatever I'm not out there just throwing stuff against the wall

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and saying hey do this and if you were to sit here and I were to give everybody a hundred percent access to

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my leagues am I doing this you can't say that like for everybody but I could tell people I am doing that

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like if you're hurting based off of a player take that I've gotten wrong hey guess what I did it too so

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00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:22,000
I'm hurting as well so I understand where you're coming from but the other side of this is I'm not out here

424
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,000
telling you okay I had Puka Nukua as my wide receiver five pre draft I believe in him I'm tweeting about him

425
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:35,000
constantly I want to like raise the awareness level on a rookie that I think is extremely freaking talented

426
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,000
if he'd have been healthy if he'd have gone to an SEC school then he would have been drafted in the third

427
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:48,000
freaking round easy easy or it I mean and the other thing about it and the people tried to shove him down

428
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:57,000
because of his testing and stuff and it's like we need to like also understand like around specifically

429
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:05,000
around certain positions how much testing matters and how much it doesn't on certain things right and I'm a huge athleticism

430
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:16,000
like matters type of you know as far as like how I approach it but we also do need to be mindful of the position

431
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:22,000
that you're talking about and what kind of context that is in like running backs yes you need to have really good

432
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:28,000
short area agility if you don't need to be able to break tackles extremely well right I mean what do we want

433
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:34,000
to me in the best of both worlds we want all of that in one said package you need to be above 210-215 pounds

434
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:40,000
and a lot of different instances like there are a bit of everybody's going to look like say well no exactly but like

435
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:49,000
can you hit the benchmarks if you were to talk about tight ends that is the most heavily correlated position in fantasy

436
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:57,000
to athleticism if you are not an elite athlete you attaining elite upside in fantasy at the tight end position

437
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:05,000
good luck probably not going to happen the chance of you getting a Zach Erz type of run out is probably not going to happen

438
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:12,000
you know so am I going to still take a lot of shots on the elite Uber athletes damn right going to you know and I'm going

439
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000
to fade the guys that run the 4-8 and things like that yes 9 times out of 10 that's going to sit here and bear out

440
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:26,000
as like good process but this all like this long so locally I'm giving is when we look at wide receivers there are

441
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:35,000
other things to quantify outside of just how well they test can't is there nuance to routes does he understand how to get

442
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:43,000
open these things matter and what kind of production these players have had like these things matter like where you

443
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:50,000
can't just say he runs a 4-3 he's going to be awesome you know things like that because the laundry list of guys that run

444
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:56,000
a 4-3 and end up not doing anything and we could talk about John Ross Marcus about a scantling all these different guys

445
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:03,000
and a lot of them with good good draft capital amazing draft capital we can also talk about like there's a laundry list of guys

446
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:11,000
with kind of like OK to testing that do really really well as well like the Deodra Hopkins the world like downright horrible

447
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:20,000
was Keenan Allen or T Higgins everybody faded him when he came out you know Keenan Allen Cooper Cup what Puka's doing

448
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,000
like all these different parts of pieces like there are a lot of wide receivers that did not test his Uber athletes that

449
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:33,000
understand it's whether I'm gonna say Brown I'm gonna say Brown know the guy out there yes his short area was good but like

450
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:41,000
is he a fast straight line guy no you know and like this is to bear it out like over and over and time and time again like

451
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:48,000
we need to understand context and these players skill sets to as we're evaluating their games and the other production

452
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:56,000
metrics that come out there tank Dell another one he he's debunking trends right now he's playing outside wide receiver and NFL

453
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:04,000
offense and we know his size and stuff and does his production profile look great as far as his breakout age and all these

454
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:14,000
other things that we like pound the table for no it's not amazing but if you look at his production in college and you also

455
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:20,000
stack this up Christian Watson's another guy we could bring up here you know it's like there are outliers at this position

456
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:27,000
and we need to understand the context and how we evaluate that position out of all the other ones especially when it comes to

457
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:37,000
all of these things that we use and tying athleticism into that if I want to take say there's one position that I'm willing to

458
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:46,000
not fade athleticism but I'm more likely to say okay does it matter as much at running back and tight end no it doesn't

459
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:54,000
it's not a good idea yeah yeah I'm with you I'm with you so let's think about I'll try to get this back on the rails to

460
00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:01,000
we went on some long changes we do this all the time don't matter if it's on a podcast or chill it at the expo you know having

461
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:10,000
a few adult beverages super long tangents alright so that's how you got into the fantasy space let's think back then you

462
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:16,000
get into the fantasy space then at what point do you decide that you wanted to do content at what point do you start to make

463
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,000
that leap because it is a you kind of got to talk yourself into it right like it's a little bit of a whole shit people are

464
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:28,000
actually going to see this whether it's 10 people or not it's still a little bit of a there's a little bit of fear

465
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:35,000
right whether it's right in your first article recording your first audio podcast or heaven forbid you you put your

466
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:42,000
ass on camera and you're like oh boy now we're opening up we're opening up the the jokesters here we go but how did you

467
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:50,000
get into doing fantasy content um see there's six or seven I'm trying to remember if it was 2016 or 2017 that I wrote

468
00:38:50,000 --> 00:39:03,000
my first article somewhere around there but honestly like did it just kind of fell ass backwards into this um we moved so

469
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:12,000
back story just personalized we moved to a brand new state I moved to Texas for a medical job before we're getting into

470
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:19,000
the space both as a content creator like whether it was part time and just make a little side scratch or doing this full

471
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:31,000
time like I was a full time pediatric oncology nurse worked for st. Jude for about 14 years we moved to Dallas as I was

472
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:42,000
taking a nurse manager job and um we moved here and really all that came out of and I really love fantasy now we're

473
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:49,000
moving now I've got a little bit extra free time like we ain't got a lot of friends around here um what are we going to do

474
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,000
with all the free time and my wife and I love fantasy and we were super into it and like one dip I remember like one

475
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:01,000
night I was just sitting up I think I was like playing Call of Duty or something I was like man you know like I wonder if I could

476
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:08,000
like try to write about this because I was always so obsessed with it and like I was just like man like why not so I went

477
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:15,000
out to Best Buy the next day bought the cheapest piece of crap like Chromebook I could find which funny enough I actually

478
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:25,000
wrote on that I used that that uh Chromebook in all of its glory I still have it I used it all the way up until I got

479
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:35,000
hired at Fantasy Bros so long time um and you're gonna frame that thing I did dude it's it's it's still in a case somewhere

480
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:42,000
I think like it's um it's got stickers it's beat up the heckin bag it's you can frame it like you know you go into a restaurant

481
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:49,000
or a bar and they have the first dollar they ever made you know back there you do the same thing the first computer I ever had

482
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:57,000
that would be beautiful that would be beautiful uh and so I went out and I bought it and I was just like so I got on I was on

483
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Twitter already and not not just like big personalities but I still remember to this day two people I DM'd out of the blue

484
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Michael Hoff and Anthony Servino who at the time they're doing really fantastic stuff with FF face off but at the time they were

485
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:26,000
writing for a site called Gridiron experts and I was like man I was like how how who who who do I talk to you about this like how do I

486
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:35,000
get my foot in the door like what does that look like like and I had no clue man like I was like in the funny thing about it is like

487
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:42,000
I just start trying to produce your own content and I think it's a little bit more straightforward about like I guess like data

488
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:53,000
things and things like now but like back then I was just like I don't even know where to go to like find stats and information to even

489
00:41:53,000 --> 00:42:03,000
use in articles you know and it was like so not only was like trying to figure out how do you do that how do you even research

490
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:10,000
something like that and where do you find information to even write about this stuff intelligently you know and so that was a

491
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:18,000
struggle at the beginning but also like just getting into the space man and like so one thing led to another bought the Chromebook

492
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:27,000
started doing articles and I wrote for like everywhere man like I he used to joke I was like some kind of like hired assassin like but like

493
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:35,000
how do you like the beginning of it and then like once I got not even a lot of traction just like once I was able to write a few articles

494
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:45,000
for places and I was able to like and it wasn't much but I was able to make like some some side hustle money and I was like you

495
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Can I do this to where I can make just enough money,

496
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,800
like whatever, if this is like covering Christmas

497
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,560
for the family every year, then cool, you know, whatever,

498
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,080
it's worth the extra time, much less like,

499
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,360
is it a consistent side hustle and like,

500
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,960
I'm able to help my family out or I could put money back

501
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,560
or whatever, save for my kid's college,

502
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,840
whatever I want to do with that, you know?

503
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,480
And so I kept just like writing for different places,

504
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,400
like, and it was like, and you know, like just trying

505
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,040
to get more eyes on the content.

506
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,840
Like I wrote for Gridiron experts.

507
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,200
I started out at a company now, like shout out again

508
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,080
to my dude, Willie, Fantasy Football 24-7,

509
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,600
who I think Willie's still out there in the space

510
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,160
sitting here selling fantasy draft kits and stuff.

511
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,360
But back then, like I was, it grew into where I kind of

512
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,320
fell backwards into not only writing, but the first few

513
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,040
places I reached out to, they were like,

514
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,880
hey, would you want to do podcasting?

515
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,720
And I was like, oh, geez, like I don't even know what

516
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:53,040
the heck do I do with that?

517
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,720
Like, I don't even know like, what do I do for a mic?

518
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,280
Like, what do I do for that?

519
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,280
Like, I had never done anything like whether it was writing

520
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,240
or like talking on air about anything.

521
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,400
Like I didn't go to school for any of this stuff.

522
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,120
I was a freaking nursing major, man.

523
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,200
Like, you know, like I didn't go to school

524
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,040
for any of this stuff.

525
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Like legit, now like what puts food on my family's table

526
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,960
is me writing and doing content.

527
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Like this is my full-time job, but like,

528
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,760
like I'm also the same guy that like in my life,

529
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,800
I've legitimately only read like maybe two books cover

530
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
to cover, like all these books behind me, that's my wife.

531
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,600
My wife is the reader, like I, you know, whatever,

532
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,440
I'm a fake, but like, I never like looked at myself

533
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,360
as like I wasn't an English major.

534
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,600
I didn't do journalism.

535
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,760
I didn't do sports media.

536
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,920
I didn't do all any of these things.

537
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,920
And so like just to write stuff was an adventure.

538
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,080
And not only to write stuff, but do on air content

539
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,120
or video or any of those things.

540
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Like I ain't taking classes for any of this stuff, man.

541
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,280
It's honestly between YouTube and looking at other creators

542
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,440
in the space and saying, okay, I like their content.

543
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,680
What about their content do I like?

544
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,680
What is it about their content or them that draws me in?

545
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,880
And it's like, okay, authenticity, how well researched

546
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,920
or the delivery or whatever, you know?

547
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,080
And for me, it's been just a constant evolution

548
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,440
and learning process.

549
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,520
And that's still a learning process now, man.

550
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,280
And I'm like, I'm a big believer in that.

551
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,720
It's like, whenever you get to a point

552
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:47,440
that you think you cannot get any better at what you're doing

553
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,360
or you don't have things that you can still improve upon

554
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,080
or still learn, then one of two things,

555
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,280
either you're full of shit and you're kidding yourself

556
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,120
or in tandem, you're gonna get passed by by somebody else.

557
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,200
You know, because you don't think you think

558
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,320
you're at the top of the mountain.

559
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,320
There's nothing else that you can improve on.

560
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,560
And that's, first of all, that's bullshit.

561
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Like that's not true.

562
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,240
There's always something we could be doing better

563
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,960
and whether that's, however you wanna attack that,

564
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,960
you wanna look at that.

565
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Like that's a fallacy.

566
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,360
You can always get better at whatever you're doing,

567
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,040
whatever your craft is.

568
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,120
So, I mean, just a long-winded way, man.

569
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,480
Like this has been a winding road for me

570
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,160
and a lot of different places.

571
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,160
And it went from a side hustle to maybe I could do that

572
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,000
as a career, but I didn't.

573
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,960
I mean, honestly, in my wildest dreams

574
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,280
that I ever sit here and think like,

575
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,440
yeah, you know, six, seven years down the road,

576
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,120
I'm gonna quit being a nurse.

577
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,120
I'm going to talk about football for a living.

578
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,960
I'm gonna go evaluate prospects.

579
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,280
I'm gonna go to the senior bowl.

580
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,760
I'm gonna go to all these different things.

581
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,520
Did I ever think any of that was possible?

582
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Hell no.

583
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,240
Like, and I'm not like, I'm not making this up.

584
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:11,440
This is not me trying to like,

585
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,600
oh, I'm sure to sound humble.

586
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Like I'm being real.

587
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Like I still feel blessed to do this on a daily basis.

588
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,320
And sometimes you get lost in the sauce of like life

589
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,320
and the busyness and all the time we put into putting out

590
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,240
the best thing that we can.

591
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:31,600
And you can lose sight of that sometimes,

592
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000
but at the core of it,

593
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,160
am I still like absolutely floored

594
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,640
that anybody gives a crap about what I have to say

595
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,800
about anything?

596
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,160
Yeah, I still am.

597
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,040
I believe it, man.

598
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,600
You talked a little bit about authenticity

599
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,200
and authenticity in content, authenticity

600
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,080
in your takes that you put out.

601
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,440
But the same thing, you know, it sounds like,

602
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,920
oh, maybe you just make it.

603
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,040
You're trying to make yourself seem humble.

604
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,880
It's real.

605
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,720
It's real.

606
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,120
I share the same journey.

607
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Well, I can't believe that I'm sitting here

608
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,720
getting to talk to a big time.

609
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,160
Fantasy football analyst.

610
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,200
I shot it.

611
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,040
Don't even.

612
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,680
Oh, even, don't even.

613
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,840
This is where you're at though.

614
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,520
You think about the fantasy football space as a general.

615
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,440
And I get to talk about football, right?

616
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,720
And I get to generate, you know,

617
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,800
I'm in the side hustle stage.

618
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,520
I get to generate a little bit of income

619
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,000
for my family to do stuff by talking about football.

620
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,440
And it's just me being me.

621
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,040
I don't have to fake it.

622
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,520
I don't have to put on a persona to do it.

623
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,560
I don't need to do any of the extra stuff.

624
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,880
The other add on top of that, not to cut you off, Mike,

625
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,040
was like, you shouldn't have to.

626
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,680
Correct.

627
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,200
Correct.

628
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,440
If you're putting on the face and painting this on for people,

629
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,120
or you're stepping out and you're being anything less

630
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,400
than 100% yourself.

631
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,280
Yes.

632
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,680
You're doing it wrong.

633
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,080
Like, that is not what you need to be doing.

634
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,760
Like, for better or worse, be yourself.

635
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,320
Because there are days when you're going to wake up

636
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,440
and you're tired, you're salty, whatever.

637
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,920
Like, I don't know.

638
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,080
Like, you just walked outside and like it's raining

639
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,520
and you're pissed off at the world.

640
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,480
I don't know.

641
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,760
But like, you got to be yourself.

642
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,120
Like, for better or worse, like, people can sniff out the fact

643
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560
of like, when you're not being yourself

644
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,320
and you're being less than genuine,

645
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,000
it just be yourself.

646
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,240
Like, why is it that hard, man?

647
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:32,760
It is.

648
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,840
And it's so, I've done some guest spots, right?

649
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,200
Probably not the amount that you have, right?

650
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,840
The absolute legend that you are yourself over here.

651
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,800
God, stop.

652
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,160
But don't you, when you do these guest spots, like,

653
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,640
when somebody comes on and the first time that they let out

654
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,760
a customer, the first time they say the word fuck,

655
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,800
and you go, oh, we're on this kind of show.

656
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,480
Perfect.

657
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,640
I can be myself.

658
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,720
You know what I mean?

659
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,840
Like, if you're always trying to watch your words,

660
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,040
you know, you're not letting it flow the way you would

661
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,560
if we were actually having this conversation at a bar

662
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,280
somewhere, right?

663
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:07,920
Yep.

664
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,920
If Mike and Derek were hanging out at the bar

665
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,640
talking about, man, Keenan Allen was a fucking value

666
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,760
all off season.

667
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Look at this guy.

668
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,480
Who cares that he's old?

669
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,240
Who cares that he ran a 4940 or whatever the fuck it

670
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,480
was back in the day?

671
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,080
This dude in this offense is an absolute unit.

672
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,080
That's done.

673
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,640
Like, those are the kind of conversations

674
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,280
you want to have that are authentic and that people

675
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,280
gravitate towards.

676
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,800
And I would say, people always ask me,

677
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,560
like, what makes South Harmon, Mike?

678
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,160
Like, how did you guys get to where you are?

679
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,320
And I can honestly tell you I have no fucking clue.

680
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
But the only thing I can tell you is being authentic

681
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,880
and just being ourselves.

682
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,280
That is where we started from.

683
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,560
And that's what we're going to continue to do.

684
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,360
And you talk about it.

685
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,600
You're authentic and you're humbled.

686
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,760
And I can see exactly where you're coming from.

687
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,960
But you would have never imagined this years ago.

688
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,520
It probably still gets you.

689
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,160
When you meet somebody new who doesn't know who the fuck you

690
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,400
are, you meet new people, whether it's a wedding, a family,

691
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,920
function, whatever.

692
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,880
You meet somebody in the fucking airport, Derek.

693
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,920
And they ask you what you do for a living.

694
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,680
That question comes up.

695
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,440
Is it still not?

696
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,360
I try to be honest.

697
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,320
I sidestep that question, dude.

698
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,120
I sidestep that question.

699
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,080
Oh, my lord.

700
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,600
I'm so bad about it, dude.

701
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,320
I sidestep that question.

702
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,120
And it's not like when most people will be like, oh, dear.

703
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Once they know that you're a fantasy football creator,

704
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,280
that's all they want to talk to you about.

705
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,400
No, dude.

706
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,760
That is not why I sidestep that question.

707
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,040
I sidestep that question just the same way

708
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,920
I'm sidestepping all these glittering generalities

709
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,680
you're tossing at me right now.

710
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:55,440
Because I legit feel like the kid at the birthday party

711
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,080
opening a present.

712
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,160
And I feel awkward.

713
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,040
I feel like everybody's eyes are on me

714
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,280
when that subject gets brought up,

715
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,800
or people say positive things.

716
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,640
I feel like I feel my own skin crawl.

717
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,560
I just feel awkward.

718
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:19,080
I will have imposter syndrome until the day I die.

719
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,160
It is what it is.

720
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,040
And I'm just trying to keep it real, man.

721
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,960
I do not mention nine times out of 10

722
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,640
unless I am pressed what I do for a living.

723
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,960
And I just don't.

724
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,880
My wife brings it up more than I do.

725
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,400
And people will walk away and I'm like,

726
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,200
why did you just bring that up?

727
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,040
And she's like, well, I'm proud of you.

728
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,360
Yeah, I'm like, I know, but they didn't have to know it.

729
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,720
Like, I'm fine if we didn't have that conversation.

730
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:47,320
It's cool.

731
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,280
Like, whatever.

732
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,520
Like, we ain't got to talk about it, man.

733
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,480
Like, it does.

734
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,520
I still feel really awkward.

735
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,360
Like, I'm not out here like puffing my chest out,

736
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,520
like wearing fantasy prose shirts to like every function

737
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,800
and thing, and I'm wearing a name tag and saying,

738
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,920
hi, I'm blah, blah, blah from Twitter.

739
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,240
Like, no, like, I still feel awkward about it, man.

740
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,640
Like, keeping it real.

741
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,360
Self-promotion is one of the hardest things to do.

742
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,200
Oh, dude, it's.

743
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,320
It really is.

744
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,080
It is.

745
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,960
And it's like, because my whole thing is like,

746
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,480
I want to be myself and I want to be authentic.

747
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,960
And that's the only way that I know.

748
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,880
And to me, some of the things that you do also,

749
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,480
as far as like, tooting your own horn about stuff.

750
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,840
And I know I kick it up to 11 out on social media and stuff.

751
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,360
But I do that a lot to sit here and fire back at consensus and stuff.

752
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,520
And, you know, so people, I think, look at me

753
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,880
like I'm extremely arrogant in how I approach things.

754
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,800
And dude, I'm not arrogant about this stuff.

755
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,320
I'm very passionate about my process or players

756
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,760
that I believe in or the conviction and the takes

757
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,280
that I put out there.

758
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,040
And to me, it's not an arrogance thing.

759
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,920
Like, I think I'm always going to be right regardless.

760
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,440
That's not it at all.

761
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:13,480
It's like, for me, if I'm not going to believe what I'm telling somebody,

762
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,000
then why shouldn't anybody else out there believe anything that I'm saying?

763
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,760
Like, if I don't believe it, what do you want me to do?

764
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,920
Sell you a bag of goods that I don't even believe in?

765
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,960
Like, I'm not trying to sell you anything, to be honest.

766
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,040
I'm not trying to sell anybody anything.

767
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,560
When it comes down to it, I'm putting my thoughts out there

768
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,760
on paper, in the airwaves, on video and stuff,

769
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,400
and agree with it or not.

770
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,800
That's up to you.

771
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,760
I'm not out there making your lineup decisions.

772
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,720
I'm not out there telling you who to draft.

773
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,640
I'm putting my thoughts out there in the space,

774
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,240
and I'm going to do so energetically,

775
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,600
and I'm going to do so with passion.

776
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,880
Because if I don't believe what I'm saying,

777
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,880
why should you believe what I'm saying?

778
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,160
100%.

779
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,280
But people think that's arrogance, and I'm like,

780
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,880
no, it's just me being loud.

781
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,280
It's me being the mouth of the South.

782
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,960
It's me being whatever.

783
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,400
It's me having energy and loving what I'm doing.

784
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,360
Now, you can call that arrogance all you want to,

785
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,560
but it's not arrogance.

786
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,560
I don't think that I'm always right.

787
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,800
I really do not.

788
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:25,000
People think, too, you could have a take for multiple weeks,

789
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,840
and they're like, see, you'll just never change.

790
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,760
It's take luck.

791
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,480
It's like, well, sometimes I need time.

792
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,800
I need time to see.

793
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,600
We're processing new information, man.

794
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,000
100%.

795
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,800
Always.

796
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,600
And some of that is, is there still a path?

797
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,360
And the other part about that is continuing to grow

798
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:46,400
as an analyst, a content creator, all these different things.

799
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,320
Can I count up the L's?

800
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,840
Should I gotten off the Skymore bandwagon earlier?

801
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,320
Yeah.

802
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,160
I mean, right now, the early returns?

803
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,320
Absolutely.

804
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,880
Should I have been worried about Justin Fields?

805
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,240
I am worried.

806
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,840
Do I think that he's been sabotaged by that team

807
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,240
in the scheme and stuff like that?

808
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:07,880
I firmly believe that.

809
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Is that meaning that I'm not going to own up to the fact

810
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,360
that he's not playing good football?

811
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,400
No, I don't think that he's playing good football.

812
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,080
But I think there's a lot of context around a lot of these things

813
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,440
to where, yes, there are learning opportunities

814
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,400
as an analyst, as a content creator.

815
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:28,040
There are also spots where people get

816
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,760
caught up in the, the, the, I want to pound the table

817
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,280
for a player so much, or I want to shade a player so much

818
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,320
that they don't care about the context surrounding,

819
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,360
said players, production.

820
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,680
And it's like, oh, to the moon, you know, or, or, oh,

821
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,960
that guy's just, he's, he's horrible.

822
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,520
And it's like, oh man, like you need to understand,

823
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,600
there's a lot of moving parts to this and it's a team sport.

824
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,560
And receivers can't throw themselves the ball.

825
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,680
Quarterbacks can't block for themselves.

826
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,880
Quarterbacks are not dialing up their own plays

827
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,160
and not designing the scheme.

828
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,280
Like there are so many parts or pieces

829
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,560
to how all of these players, whether they produce or they

830
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,440
don't, there's so much that goes into that

831
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,480
on, on so many different levels.

832
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,280
And that's why you see players when they go to different

833
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,360
situations and a coach uses them how they should have been

834
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,520
utilized the entire time.

835
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,840
Or you see players that, that flash later in their career

836
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,920
because they've been stuck in a myriad of bad situations.

837
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,760
Like, like, I'll have like, Cordell Patterson, you know,

838
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,480
he had the run last year and stuff like that.

839
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,480
We saw what he could do.

840
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,240
It's like, well, should we have, should NFL teams not have

841
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,840
used him in similar manners his entire career?

842
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,680
It's like, the NFL screws it up a lot of different times.

843
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,880
Like, so do content creators and us as analysts.

844
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,120
Like the NFL doesn't get it right all 100% of the time.

845
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,880
So the fact that like people believe that, that content

846
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,800
creators and NFL analysts should be 100%, you're asking

847
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,800
something that even NFL talent evaluators don't even do.

848
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,320
But you expect this out of your fantasy content creators.

849
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Right.

850
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,440
Exactly.

851
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,280
Exactly.

852
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,240
You got, you got Ray Mostred out here in his 30s, you know,

853
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,720
looking like he's in the prime of his career, just absolutely

854
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,560
looking like a stud.

855
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,880
Gino Smith having a career revival.

856
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,320
Pukinacua is out there being a wide receiver one.

857
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,800
Like, you know, you're seven breakout.

858
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,800
Like who had that on the bingo card?

859
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:32,640
Yeah.

860
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,480
Who knew that was gonna happen?

861
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,320
Exactly.

862
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,360
Gary Barnages of the world in previous years.

863
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,240
Like there's just, it's every year and it's different walks

864
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,200
of life for these players and like different situations.

865
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,000
And maybe they were flash in the pan.

866
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,120
Maybe they were never used correctly, like ever.

867
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,520
You know, so it's, it's a lot of different things, man.

868
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,040
We shouldn't be that surprised either.

869
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,560
I mean, shout out to Iowa guy Kurt Warner, right?

870
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,440
From Baggin Grocers in his mid 20s at High V,

871
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,360
which for those of you listening in Midwest,

872
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,840
you know exactly what High V is.

873
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,560
To, you know, now he's a hard for him.

874
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,560
Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, like over and over and over and over.

875
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,600
Again, Austin Eckler, like we can go down the list, man.

876
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,600
It's just, the NFL is littered with, with multiple,

877
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:23,200
multiple players that either produce or don't produce

878
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,880
and there are so many things around their situation

879
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,840
that you have to account for that we're going to get right

880
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,520
and we're going to get it wrong.

881
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,000
This, this is why too.

882
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,360
I think it's so important.

883
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,040
And I wanted to highlight because so many people

884
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,680
will come after they see one bad take

885
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,160
at the Justin Fields thing.

886
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,600
That for me, it's always been the Brock Purdy thing.

887
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,320
Like I am reluctant to buy into Brock Purdy.

888
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,640
I am reluctant to buy into, partly

889
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,080
because he played at Iowa State, right?

890
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,680
Like I got that bias, you know, fuck the cyclones.

891
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:53,600
Can't stand them.

892
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:54,440
Hate them.

893
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,480
Just hate them.

894
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,960
Can't stand them.

895
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,600
But like they see those one takes and they're like,

896
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,120
see, you don't even know what the hell you're talking about.

897
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,680
But they won't list off all the W's.

898
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,600
And for you, talking about, talking about,

899
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:07,720
Samby Ballgame, right?

900
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,760
Like these are just ones from this year.

901
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Nobody wants to highlight the W's.

902
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,120
I'll highlight them, Derek.

903
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,760
I'll highlight the W's.

904
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,720
Just like I'm going to highlight my Tua W forever.

905
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,840
Oh dude, hey, we've been out here for,

906
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,880
for many a day talking about Tua.

907
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,640
And the funny thing is, is Tua goes out

908
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,120
and he puts up top 12 numbers in every efficiency metric

909
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,040
last year and then people are like, well,

910
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,800
what about those concussions?

911
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Or, well, it's just the receivers around him.

912
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,960
I'm sorry, did I miss the retirement papers

913
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,360
on Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle?

914
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:46,200
I thought they were still going to be in Miami this year.

915
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,320
Did his head coach leave?

916
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,280
OK, no.

917
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:48,920
Nope.

918
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,160
Then what are we talking about here?

919
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,080
Why don't we like them?

920
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,960
But again, that's where we talk about like the consensus

921
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,760
ideas around players.

922
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,360
And, you know, it's like everybody gets so caught up

923
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,080
in I want to be the first to make the joke about how Tua can't throw deep.

924
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,720
And apparently, like once I've dug my heels in on that so deep,

925
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,240
I can never go back and give him his flowers for how well he's playing.

926
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,120
Like I've just I've I've sewn myself too deep into that.

927
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,200
I can't ever go back and like, come on, man, we're all going to be wrong.

928
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,280
We're going to be wrong.

929
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,600
Like, get over it.

930
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,320
Like we are going to get things wrong for as much as I got to a right.

931
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,880
Like I was not a big rock party believer.

932
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,320
Like I'm with you.

933
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,440
Like, you know, and he keeps if he keeps doing what he's doing,

934
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,920
I'm going to be wrong on that.

935
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,920
You know, it's like.

936
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,120
But there are so many different parts of pieces.

937
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,920
I love the part that you brought up here about.

938
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,680
It is it's tough.

939
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,160
And I think that the space has changed.

940
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,040
We we talked about this before we turned the cameras on and stuff.

941
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:13,240
I think looking at how the space was six, seven years ago when I got into it

942
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,720
versus how the space is now.

943
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520
And maybe I'm just getting old and maybe I'm just getting jaded

944
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,600
or maybe I'm just the old man yelling at clouds.

945
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,680
But there is a lot out there about.

946
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,000
People just love to try to bury content creators

947
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,240
for every take that they get wrong or they miss.

948
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,240
And they don't look at the volume of the takes that people out there.

949
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,840
And people are like, well, you know, like I get it all the time.

950
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,680
Well, you you talk about so many different players.

951
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,240
Of course, you're going to have so many different hits.

952
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,360
It's like we all talk about so many different players.

953
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,240
And the fact that it is is that like.

954
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,200
It's not true 100 percent across the board.

955
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,560
But there's a fair amount out there where it's like, you know,

956
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,800
people are more quick to grab the keyboards whenever it's something negative.

957
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,720
They could say about a take that you put out there.

958
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,960
Then the flip side of the coin and saying, hey, you know what?

959
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,640
Y'all got this right, you know, and that's that's not just me.

960
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,080
That's every content creator.

961
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,800
And, you know, I I'm not saying all content creators are out here saying,

962
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,800
you know, give us a pat on the back and stuff like that.

963
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:23,400
But I could sure as heck tell you the amount of pats on the back versus

964
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,800
the amount of like people trying to kick in the teeth.

965
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,880
It is much more on the side of people trying to kick you in the teeth.

966
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,880
Well, the energy level, the energy level from the kick in the teeth sides

967
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,800
usually turned up to 10 or 11.

968
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,400
It's true, though, man, and it's like, you know, there are reasons why,

969
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,800
like I've closed my DMs, there are reasons why, like, you know,

970
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,400
now I don't do this all the time, but I will mute a lot of tweets I put out

971
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,280
in the space for my own mental health sake, because believe it.

972
01:03:54,560 --> 01:04:00,200
It just, you know, like I want to help people and I want to sit here and.

973
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,600
Do my due diligence to do the best work that I can to help people in this space

974
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,800
of a game about a game.

975
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,960
And but it's also true that, like, there's a lot of things that people

976
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:21,000
if I showed half of my DMs of the reason why I closed my DMs to people,

977
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,520
they would be appalled at the things that that gets sent

978
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:31,560
behind the curtain, behind closed doors with the anonymity of a burner account

979
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,360
or your name isn't on your account.

980
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,000
And the things that people will say to you,

981
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,360
it is it would it would shock some people,

982
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,360
but you don't hear content creators out here posting screenshots about that

983
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,080
or talking about that on the daily basis.

984
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,760
You don't hear anybody talking about that because it's just like, well,

985
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,240
you got it wrong. You're supposed to just own up and deal with it.

986
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,880
Trust me, we all know without anybody having to tell us all the things

987
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,640
that we get wrong, OK, that that we all know.

988
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,080
Because like I said, if you're following your own advice,

989
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:09,440
if if you talked about a player and they underperformed, they get hurt,

990
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,080
things happen, whatever, you know, you're wrong about a player.

991
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,040
Trust me, if you're following your own advice on it and you drafted a lot of that

992
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,840
player or you're, you know, like whatever, like you believe in the

993
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,280
in the analysis that you put out there and you're following your own advice.

994
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,000
We don't need anybody to tell us how we got wrong or how bad it was.

995
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,120
We already know. Trust me, we know.

996
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,080
We know. Trust me.

997
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,240
You're watching the game and you're going, damn it, I can't believe I did this.

998
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,640
I can't believe I can't believe I spent all this draft capital on Justin Fields.

999
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,920
Yeah, one week, two.

1000
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,080
When I saw a Skymore out there just not garnering targets, Travis

1001
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,720
Kelsey's out or he's banged up and he's not looking like, you know,

1002
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,080
at this moment, like he could step up and be the guy that like I've hoped

1003
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,600
that he could be, you know, could he eventually do that?

1004
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,760
That's possible, but the early returns and you marry that with his rookie season.

1005
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,480
It's not looking promising and stuff.

1006
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,200
So like, yes, I'm watching him and I'm looking at all my Dynasty squads with

1007
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,000
Skymore on it and I firmly understand.

1008
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,920
I'm like, wow, you know, like I could have got this really wrong.

1009
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,920
Like I know that people know that content creators know that without anybody

1010
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:26,440
having to, you know, say any level of, you know, whether it's just tongue

1011
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,760
in cheek or horrible heinous stuff to them.

1012
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:30,800
We don't have to hear it.

1013
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,480
Trust me, we know, we know.

1014
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,880
And it's the internet too.

1015
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,960
We don't get a whole lot of context behind, uh, behind text.

1016
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,480
Right.

1017
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,760
We don't know if you're like you said tongue in cheek or whether it's

1018
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,320
actually coming from a place of hate, but Derek, good conversation, man.

1019
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,280
Over an hour, I really appreciate you coming on.

1020
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,040
Tell everybody where they can find you at and what you're working on.

1021
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,000
What's your schedule look like for a week?

1022
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,840
I know it's ridiculous, but where can they find you?

1023
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,720
You know, what can they tap into an indie?

1024
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,640
Oh, dude, first of all, thank you for having me on this man.

1025
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,880
This was a wonderful little therapy session on the couch talking to one of my

1026
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,000
best buds in the industry.

1027
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,400
I love my, I'm going to change the name of this show to Dr.

1028
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,000
McNutted.

1029
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,360
Maybe I could do that.

1030
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:20,200
I don't even need to see the graphics that you're going to put out there.

1031
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,760
If that happens, that's it's better.

1032
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:23,920
It's better off.

1033
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,120
I've left in the dark on that.

1034
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,360
But man, first of all, shout out to you and what you're doing here.

1035
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,680
Shout out to you and all the South Harman boys.

1036
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,400
Like what y'all are doing is absolutely awesome.

1037
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Carving your own path, the way that you're doing it with that authenticity,

1038
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:44,480
with the level of conviction, whether with just, I mean, all the parts or pieces,

1039
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,640
man, big, big fan of it.

1040
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:52,160
And so that has to get brought up here first, man, but all the content for people.

1041
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,920
I don't like my flowers either.

1042
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,320
Well, guess what? You getting them.

1043
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:55,760
You getting them.

1044
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:56,200
You ain't got to.

1045
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,720
Hey, you don't have a chance to bring them back.

1046
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:57,880
Okay.

1047
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,560
Just like you're going to bring it up with me.

1048
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,960
I'm going to sit here and hand up to you and you're going to, you're going to smell

1049
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,000
them, smell the roses.

1050
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,000
I don't want to.

1051
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,400
So too bad you already got them.

1052
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,400
You can't bring them back.

1053
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,600
This isn't an edible arrangement.

1054
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,640
You just leave out the sun.

1055
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,200
Damn it.

1056
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:11,360
Okay.

1057
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:11,800
Yeah.

1058
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,200
She won't have.

1059
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,400
Anyway, but as far as all the content, man, it's all over at Fantasy

1060
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:22,880
Pros main podcast, all my work primers at every Thursday, which is my

1061
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,480
20,000 word love letter on the week.

1062
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:32,280
I pour my heart and soul into that article every single week.

1063
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:39,880
I spend, oh man, 40 plus hours at least writing that article on a weekly basis.

1064
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:47,200
And yeah, man, I mean, between that, all the, the dynasty work, I mean,

1065
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,240
all my things, all the stuff is over at Fantasy Pros and people should be

1066
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,960
checking out all the work.

1067
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:53,520
It's not just me.

1068
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,960
I mean, I think we are doing amazing work there.

1069
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,360
Whether you're talking about Joey P on the ones and twos, you're talking

1070
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,240
about Sam Hoppin with the data, you're talking about Andrew Erickson and what

1071
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,360
he's doing in the player prop markets and the betting, the betting primer

1072
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,920
this year is just hands down amazing.

1073
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:17,040
It's just, I feel really blessed to work with what I consider to be an

1074
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:22,360
extremely talented and amazing set of humans over at Fantasy Pros.

1075
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,960
So if you don't like me, if you listen to this podcast and whatever, I ain't

1076
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,960
your cup of tea, check out the content from the boys over there as well as

1077
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,640
Kelly is doing amazing work over there.

1078
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,440
Kelly Kirby, she's one of the sharpest people in the industry.

1079
01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:38,760
Her projections are freaking fantastic.

1080
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,360
Tara over there is doing amazing work.

1081
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:46,120
She is a rising star in this industry and I do not use that like

1082
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,640
offhand. She truly is.

1083
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,320
So if you're not checking out my work over at Fantasy Pros, please check

1084
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,120
out the team.

1085
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,440
They are doing the Lord's work over there like amazing stuff.

1086
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,520
They all really care about what they're doing and they're busting their ass

1087
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,440
in the process to put out the best content that they possibly can for you.

1088
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,320
Go check it out.

1089
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:06,920
Go check it out.

1090
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:07,800
That's all I can say.

1091
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,000
And reach out to Derek on Twitter.

1092
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,680
I want to see if I got any poll here.

1093
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,640
Let's see if I can get it.

1094
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,440
Oh, I need that South Harmon bump, baby.

1095
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:17,640
I need it in my life.

1096
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,320
Oh, I want to see if I can get at least five people on Twitter to tweet at you

1097
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:22,520
that Derek, you look pretty.

1098
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,320
Just type those words.

1099
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,960
Derek, you look pretty.

1100
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,320
All right, I'm going to say this first of all, Fizzle, if you're listening to this,

1101
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,640
you don't count in the five.

1102
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,120
Okay.

1103
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,920
Already we talk a lot.

1104
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:34,320
Okay.

1105
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:39,000
So five other people, not named Mike, Fizzle or Adam.

1106
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:39,520
Okay.

1107
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,320
You can't be, you can't actually be affiliated or a contractor.

1108
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:44,600
A contractor of South Harmon.

1109
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,480
You don't count.

1110
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:48,120
I had to shout out Fizzle at least once on this show.

1111
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,520
Shout out Fizzle and all the awesome stuff he's doing in the space, man.

1112
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,440
Love that dude as well.

1113
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,120
This is a test for our Savage members or Patron members.

1114
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,920
How long you stuck with the show?

1115
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,760
If you can make it to the end here, I want you to tweet at Derek.

1116
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,240
You look pretty.

1117
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,840
Let's see if we can brighten this day.

1118
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,640
Just on a random Tuesday sometime.

1119
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,320
Five dimensions.

1120
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,880
This is one of my dimensions.

1121
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:12,800
We'll get this trended.

1122
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:13,840
We'll get you look pretty.

1123
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,480
Tried to go.

1124
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:15,560
Tried to go on the.

1125
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,360
Well, I got rid of, finally I kicked the joke to the side.

1126
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:24,120
So I got rid of my AK ugly John Daigle on my name on Twitter.

1127
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,960
I finally got rid of it.

1128
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:26,600
See.

1129
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:31,080
And for anybody, if you want the inside story about all that,

1130
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,080
I know we've gone an hour plus, but there's a great inside story on that one.

1131
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,800
So, you know, tweet at me, hit me up.

1132
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,920
We can chat about it.

1133
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:40,480
Let's go.

1134
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:41,560
Let's go.

1135
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,880
I appreciate everybody tapping in.

1136
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,160
Thanks again, Derek, for coming on.

1137
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,440
It's always good chopping it up with you and good friend in the space.

1138
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:48,040
I really like what you're doing over there.

1139
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,560
A real dude, real authentic.

1140
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,600
And it's kind of like that a Wolf of Wall Street movie.

1141
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,520
Like I feel like Google Gobble, one of us.

1142
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,200
Google Gobble, one of us.

1143
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,560
He's an honorary shithead.

1144
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,320
No, maybe start pounding my chest.

1145
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:02,640
He's an honorary shithead.

1146
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,240
So, appreciate everybody tapping in.

1147
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,000
I'll see you back here.

1148
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,440
Same time, same place next week.

1149
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:10,800
Looks like we'll be having special guest Nate Liss on the South Island spot

1150
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,400
by the next week for episode seven.

1151
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,080
So, make sure you check that one out too.

1152
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:14,880
But thanks Derek.

1153
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:44,720
See you everybody later.