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Hello everybody and welcome back to the Socap

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Improv Comedy Podcast. My name is Ralph. Ralph

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McLeod. I am the owner and artistic director

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of the Socap Improv Comedy Theatre in Toronto,

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Ontario, Canada. We're at 154 Danforth Avenue

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above the Black Swan Tavern on the second and

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third floor. We have improv classes, shows, events,

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our shows. We also have stand -up shows, sketch

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shows. You can rent our facilities and put on

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your own show. We do corporate events through

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our company called Yes Unlimited, which will

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come into your company and help transform your

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team, make everybody like each other, work together,

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talk to each other, all kinds of good stuff.

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Anyway, this podcast is about improvisation,

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improv comedy for this day, and also at least

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as much about improv for just regular everyday

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life. What can improv do for you? That's the

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question, you know. All right. So today I want

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to talk about the use of dissonance in comedy.

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OK, so first of all, let's back up and discuss

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what is dissonance? Well, dissonance is when

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things don't quite go together. When I first

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encountered dissonance as it relates to human

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beings is the term cognitive dissonance, which

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is the uncomfortable feeling that one gets when

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one holds contradictory information in their

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hands. An example would be, oh, maybe, you know,

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you have a piece of gum and you crumple up the

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wrapper and there's no garbage around. So you

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throw it on the ground. That's one example. So

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what that means is so basically in that scenario,

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you might hold in your head the thought that

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littering is bad, but I just littered. Right.

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Therefore, am I a bad person? So these. These

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two thoughts coexisting together in one's brain

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tends to make an uncomfortable feeling. And so

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what we as human beings tend to do is write some

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kind of fiction that makes that okay. And we'd

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write a line like, well, you know, if there were

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more garbage cans, I wouldn't have to throw my

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stuff on the ground. Ah, and then we breathe

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a sigh of relief because we're not a bad person.

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Or maybe you... When you do your taxes, you don't

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declare all your income, you know, all your cash

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income. So here's an example of, oh, well, it's

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wrong to cheat, but I'm cheating. Uncomfortable

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feeling. Oh, I know everybody does it. I feel

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good. So when we have cognitive dissonance, we

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tend to write a line that will, or a fiction,

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we come up with an explanation that makes that

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go away. It could be like, well, I know if I

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go to the gym and exercise, I will live longer

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and healthier. Or, you know, and so that's, oh,

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but I'm not going to the gym. Oh, but you know

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what? I'm getting good night's sleep or I'm eating

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well or I'm doing these other things that will

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sort of counteract the negative effects of not

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going to the gym. You know, all these kinds of

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things. We're all really good at doing this in

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our daily lives and we all do it. In my experience,

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everybody does it. I'm fascinated by cognitive

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dissonance. You see it politically. I think the

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most famous example of cognitive dissonance were

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these people. It was a cult, and they believed

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that the appearance of some comet was going to

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signal the end of humanity. You know what a doomsday

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cult, not the first. There's many of them, and

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they all follow the same kind of pattern. In

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which, you know, they expect the Earth's going

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to end at a certain time and date. And they're

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preparing for everything. And then the day comes,

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you know, that their leader has prophesied will

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be the day. And the day comes, the day ends,

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and the world's still here. And they all look

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around like, huh. Weird, right? That's cognitive

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distance. The Earth was supposed to end. That's

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what we believed in. It didn't end. Hmm. Oh,

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I know. All our praying and prep made God forgive

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us and give us another chance. So that's a big

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example of cognitive dissonance. But we all do

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it, you know, whether it's whatever you believe

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in. Anyway, the dissonance also is a big part

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of comedy. Another example of dissonance, just

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not, you know, cognitive dissonance, but in music.

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Yeah, you know, music uses... minor chords or

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seventh chords and they're a little discordant

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and they create kind of a disharmony or they

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don't sound quite right. They build tension.

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And then when the major chord comes, that tension

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is resolved and we tend to feel emotions. There's

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a joke that I wish I had written and it's about

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the G7. The G7 is like the seven most... uh biggest

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economies in the world like the u .s france britain

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canada uh and uh the joke is uh oh boy somebody

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should follow up the g7 conference with the c

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major conference that'll resolve everything it's

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a really good joke uh and uh i wish i'd written

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it but so but dissonance also works in comedy

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uh to great effect in fact it's it's it's difficult

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sometimes to think about comedy or laughter without

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distance. So a good example is like the punchline

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of the joke. Whenever the punchline comes, there's

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always a second of like, are they going to get

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it or not? So this is a joke I wrote. What's

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a canopy? And a canopy is a Scottish gentleman's

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lament to his urologist. A canopy! It makes me

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laugh. But you know, canopy. So when I, when

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the, when the, so that's a bad joke, but once

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the question is posed, there's like, there's

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like a moment of, Oh, what if I don't get it?

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Or it takes a split second for, Oh, I see canopy

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cannot pee. Okay. It takes a second for that.

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And then that you have dissonance. And then the

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laughter comes when the dissonance is resolved

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and you get it. And then that lets you know,

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Oh, you're smart. You're included. You're one

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of the group. We laugh. There was the release

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of the tension because there's like, maybe I

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won't get it. Maybe it's not for me. And so if

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someone tells you a joke and everybody gets it

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and you don't, you feel pretty isolated and pretty

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alone and you want to get out of there because

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it's not for you. You're excluded. You're not

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part of the group. And the laughter comes at

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the release of the tension. So you can't have

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a release of tension without tension. And that's

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what dissonance causes. So in improv, you'll

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see dissonance happen a lot. And it's a great

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tool to use when you're improvising. And it's

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not like I ever sit around and go like, you know

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what, in this scene, I'm going to use dissonance.

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But you can create it often just by doing what's

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unexpected. An unexpected point of view. or opinion

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about a very stereotypical or very common occurrence.

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And the one I'm always using on here is, you

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know, a person comes home and finds their spouse

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has been cheating. Now, in a very, in a relatable

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way, our expectation is someone who finds their

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spouse has been having an affair would be outraged,

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angry, humiliated, hurt, sad, all these things.

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But one thing you can always do is you can go,

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you can be excited. You're cheating. Ah, yes.

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Now, when you do that, that creates distance,

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right? It's interesting. And the audience stops

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and holds their breath because they need to know

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why is he excited? I'm not, I don't know why

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he's excited or they're excited. She's excited.

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He's excited. They're excited. What's going on?

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And then when you tell them the reason, ah, man,

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this is great because I've been having an affair

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for a long time and now I don't feel guilty anymore.

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And then the audience will laugh and they'll

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laugh like, oh, that's why they're happy because

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they've also been cheating. And so when the dissonance

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is resolved, you get a laugh, but you can't have

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a laugh. In this case, there are cases where

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you will get laughs without dissonance, but this

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is a specific case of how. You paint a different

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expectation or a different reality in the audience's

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mind. Oh, I would have expected this reaction

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to this information, but I didn't get that. I

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got something completely different. And you need

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to tell the audience what that is. And the audience,

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that's whether you're on stage and you have an

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audience watching you, you're in a classroom,

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or your audience is the person you're interacting

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with. I like to do this, you know, when I play

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with people in real life, you know. And they'll

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say something and I'll say something that they

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don't expect. And it has the same effect. You

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know, in my class, when I'm teaching this, I'll

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always get something in class to call me a jerk.

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I don't say jerk. I say something, a swear word,

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but I'm not going to use it here. I say, call

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me a jerk. And they call me a jerk. And then

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I just look at them and smile and go, you're

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not wrong. And it makes the audience laugh. And

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because, you know. their expectation is that

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I'm going to be offended that I'm not offended.

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And I say, well, you know, Ron, I'm a real big

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jerk. And then I play with them and it's very

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fun. Yes. So, so dissonance is again, that, that

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feeling of, I don't know what's going on. And

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you see the same thing, even in the beginning

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of a scene, when two people are started, there's

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the audience will, okay. They will give you their.

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attention. The same way that if you met somebody

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and they started talking to you, you'd give them

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a certain amount of time in order for them to

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prove that they're worthy of having your attention.

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And it's the same thing. And if you watch scenes

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carefully, you'll notice that first laugh that

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an audience will give is when the audience understands

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what's going on. And it's the same thing when

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you're talking to a person that you've never

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met before. They will relax when they understand,

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oh, you're somebody I want to talk to because

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probably because you're relatable and you're

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not you're not trying to affect me in some way.

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You're not trying to put one over on me, change

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me. You're just accepting who I am. And I like

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that. So dissonance is a really powerful tool.

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And and one thing about if you do not answer

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it, if you create an odd situation. And you don't

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answer the question. So if, you know, in my example,

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if someone comes home and finds their spouse

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has been cheating and then goes, woohoo, this

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is great. Then walks out. Everybody just left

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looking at each other thinking like, what's that

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about? And if you do that in front of an audience,

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what they will do is everybody will write their

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own fiction, probably, if they care enough. And

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it'll all be different. And then if you come

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back in or someone comes back in, comes back

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later and then explains why that dissonance happened,

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that's too late. Because your dissonance, your

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explanation better match what everybody's thinking

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or else they will not trust you. Because again,

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it's not for them. I've talked about this before.

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This is why relatability is a much better strategy

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than trying to wow people with your creativity

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and originality. Not that creative and original

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is wrong, but it's just you're going to create.

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you're going to create more problems, but then

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again, the payoff might be bigger too. But relatability

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is what will endear an audience to you. Audiences

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want to know what's going on because they want

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to feel like they're involved, like they're a

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part of it. Audiences, like all of us, very selfish,

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right? What's in it for me? Why should I see

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your show? Why should I talk to you? What's in

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it for me? Now that's, it's not. Every time I

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hear myself saying that, I think, oh, we're all

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jerks. No, we can't help it. We all want things

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that are relatable to ourselves. That's why we

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like the stories we like and the movies we like

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and the music we like, because it speaks to us.

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It's relatable to us. It is something in it that

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is for me. So a dissonance creates that uncomfortable

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feeling in the audience's brain, like the punchline

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of a joke. And then when you resolve it, they

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laugh because they understand it's for me. I

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am welcome. I have found my people, my tribe,

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my community. Thank you. And that's great, too,

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because that dissonance will focus people's minds

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and make them present. They'll be like, eh. You

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know, if you capture their attention, they will

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be with you on your journey. Again, whether you're

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on stage or you're talking to them at a party

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or over dinner. you've got their attention and

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they're focused and they're present. It's impossible

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to do that and be thinking like, what's for dinner?

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Who's picking up the kids? Oh, I got to get back

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to so -and -so with that email they sent me.

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You're focused. And that's one of the reasons

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why it's compelling because we get a mental break

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and we get to focus on the here and now and we

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can let go of our problems and our worries and

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our... you know, focusing on the future or the

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past or things we can't control here. We're locked

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in and we're in the moment. Experiencing eternity.

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Eternity is not a when. Eternity is right now.

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It's this moment. This one that keeps going on

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and on and on. And dissonance like, you know,

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uncomfortable things, mistakes, all these things

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will focus everybody's mind. Everybody's focused.

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You know, whenever there's a mistake, whenever

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there's some kind of contradiction, everybody

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holds their breath. waiting to find out what's

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going on and if you can answer it uh people will

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laugh generally and very much like you okay i

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think that's it you know so the use of dissonance

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in comedy uh and i i was i thought i have another

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podcast coming up on uh you know cognitive dissonance

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and uh and and how we can write lines with it

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how you can write jokes and how you can um you

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know it's a well i think you know it's more like

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writing really it's it's really hard to come

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up with these things in the moment although i've

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seen it happen and uh when it does it's absolutely

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brilliant so i got some great examples that i'll

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share with you that i've seen about that but

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anyway uh cognitive dissonance don't run from

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it and i love it so you know making a choice

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that's unexpected but then just explaining why

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that's good why is it good that uh you know you're

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spouse is having an affair why is it good that

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um uh we're trying to think of anything bad that

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happens on stage you know like um you got fired

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okay see we don't expect people to be happy but

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you know johnson you're fired yes thank you boss

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what ah i hated this job anyway oh okay you know

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i wanted to quit but i didn't have the gumption

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now you fired me and now i'm free okay Now I'm

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in. Now I understand why he's happy. They're

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happy. I just want to know what's going on so

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that I can participate in what's happening, right?

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There's this thing that I run into all the time

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where students, where improvisers feel like,

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oh, I've got to hide this, right? I want to hide

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it and reveal it at the right time. No, you don't.

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No, you know, that's a really hard thing to do.

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You can do it, but it's not. Not in the way you

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think. I know that's so stupid to say that. It's

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just a really difficult thing to do. It's nuanced.

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It's covered up. It's hidden very well. Yeah,

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it's really difficult. And really, you know,

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since you get an idea to do something, you should

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do it right away. Because the audience can see

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it coming and they don't miss a thing. And if

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you try to pretend that you're smarter than the

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audience or hiding things from them, they will

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hate you. And you will fail. So, yes, dissonance

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in comedy, great tool. I recommend it. Or when

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you see it happening, you know, blocks, blocks.

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We used to call these things blocks. It's a denial

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of reality. You know, here's an example is my

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favorite kind of one that I use. A word character

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A says, you know, hey, man, I was at a great

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party last night. It's crazy. Your mother was

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there. And then character B says something that

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makes that first line impossible. Dude, my mother

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died 10 years ago. Ooh, ooh, they see the B line

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seems to make A's impossible, creates dissonance.

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But if A sticks with it, they can write a line

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that will make both of those lines true, and

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we'll get a gay laugh. Because if A goes back

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and says, I know, man, I said it was a crazy

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party. oh my gosh, the party was so crazy that

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there were ghosts there or people came back from

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the dead or zombies or something. But the mother

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was there, but even though she's dead, that's

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how crazy the party was. And when you can do

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that, not only is it very fun because we've removed

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the dissonance, the cognitive dissonance, but

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we've also enriched the world. Oh, I understand

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more about this world. Oh, this world where there's

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ghosts or zombies or demons or whatever. Oh,

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that's cool. And that's also the dialectic, which

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is Aristotelian dialectic. Thesis, antithesis,

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synthesis, right? Line A makes a statement. Line

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B seems to make line A impossible for some reason.

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And then line C makes both statements true. And

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we laugh and we feel really good because we get

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it and we're smart and we found our people and

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our group and we laugh. All right. Thanks, everybody.

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