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Hey everybody, welcome back to the SoCap Improv

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Comedy Podcast. My name is Ralph, Ralph McLeod,

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the owner and artistic director of the SoCap

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Improv Comedy Theatre at 154 Danforth Avenue

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in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. We have improv classes,

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shows, events. You can rent our space, put on

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your own show. We do corporate events, private

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events, got a birthday party coming up. Want

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to get a group of people together and do an improv

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class? Oh boy. It's super duper fun. I think

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I've done like six of them in the last year.

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They're really, really great. And they're not

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that expensive. They might surprise you. Get

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10 or 15 of your friends together. Get a teacher

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and improvise for two hours. You know, it's like

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two, three hundred bucks. That's not that bad.

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I mean, think how much you're going to rent for

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a party room. You'll have a much worse experience.

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Probably. I don't know. Maybe not. But I think

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to this. I have no idea. Anyway. Yeah. So this

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podcast is geared towards improvisation, improvisation

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for the stage. But I am more interested now or

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at least as interested in using all of these

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techniques offstage. And when I say offstage,

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I mean in the real world when you're interacting

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with people. you know, at some dinner party somewhere.

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And you're like, oh, boy, I wish I knew any way

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how to make this more fun and less likely that

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I want to gouge out my eyeballs with this salad

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fork. And that's what improv can certainly do

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for many of us. And I've seen it happen and kind

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of a segue, but I was just thinking, you know,

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I've been asked this question, you know, my students,

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what do my students get and or whatever? what

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do I what do my students get out of me uh how

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what was the question what do your students learn

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I think was the question that I got and uh to

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me the hallmark of the people who've been with

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me for a long time that I notice about them on

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stage is they know they're panic they don't panic

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they never panic they'll rush they slow down

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they take their time uh they play the moments

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and uh I, that gives me so much joy that that's

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what my students in general, not all of them.

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And, um, you know, cause everybody's different,

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but you know, if I, if I was to pick a hallmark

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of my, what my students get out of teaching,

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you know, studying with me, that's what they

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get. They slow down, they're playful, play the

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moments, don't worry about where the scene is

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going or how to be funny. Maybe that last one,

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I don't know about that last one. but they don't

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hurry, they don't panic, they don't freak out,

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they don't go to low -hanging fruit to get a

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laugh. They play, they play, and they take their

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time. So today I want to talk about something

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that comes up quite a lot, and it is more common

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among newer improvisers, but by no means. Is

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this limited to them? And it's something that

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we all fall into the trap of. And I'm sure I

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still do it occasionally. It's probably one of

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the things that would happen to me. And I would

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think, oh, that was... I can't believe that happened

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to me. And what I'm talking about here is this

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tendency among improvisers to stop the action.

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and or to not to talk about this something rather

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than doing it. So the big one for me, the more

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critical one is the stopping of the action. And,

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you know, it's a typical example or a cliche

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example of character races. Let's go to the beach

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and character pieces. No, I don't want to go

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to the beach. OK, so that's stopping. It was,

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you know, it's so much wrong to say so much wrong

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with that. And I mean, it really depends on what

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comes after that, whether that determines that

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was wrong or not. But on the surface of it, you've

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got a perfectly good idea. Let's go to the beach.

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And the counter, which is no. And the real bad

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part there for me or destructive part is there's

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no other, nothing else is offered as an alternative.

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And so the character that suggested going to

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the beach, the actor. Uh, improviser now has

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to come up with a new thing. If the person who

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says, no, I don't want to go to the beach, doesn't

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offer anything else. So kind of guideline number

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one here, if you're not enthusiastic about what

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someone has offered you, number one, ask yourself,

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why not? Uh, and B, you better come up with a

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much better idea. And then you should also kind

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of apologize to that person. Uh, or. Yeah, I

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would say apologize or have a discussion at least

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about why going to the beach is not a good enough

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idea. Anyway, so that's the sort of cliche one

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or a cliche example where we will stop, where

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characters will stop action or actors will stop

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action on behalf of their characters. And the

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reason that happens in my view is it really,

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it comes down to generally fear. that one's not

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going to instill a lot of fear. Let's go to the

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beach. It's a little bit of like, well, how do

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I, why I'm getting to the beach? I've got to,

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where am I now? I've got to get into a car. Are

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we just going to say, well, later at the beach?

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And some people who don't know that they can

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do that and just say, you know, let's go to the

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beach later at the beach. And then they're there

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and they've already accepted it. That's one way

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you can certainly do it. I'm more of a fan of

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let's travel. We can travel to the beach. We

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can walk to the beach. There are ways to do that

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on stage that it looks like you've traveled a

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fair distance, but in reality, you've just done

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one walk across the stage at a turn. Oh, here

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we are at the beach. It's been lovely. And the

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audience will suspend their disbelief. Anyway,

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getting way off topic. So that's a tendency is

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the stomping of action. Typically over fear.

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So going to the beach is not a big one, although

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there's that. things i pointed out but there

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might be uh other like let's get on a roller

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coaster that's or jump out of an airplane the

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skydive those are two big ones and and i'd say

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the vast majority well over 90 of the scenes

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i've seen of people who jump out of airplanes

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or uh are gonna get on a roller coaster they

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will come up with a million reasons not to do

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the thing again probably because of fear because

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of i don't know how to mind this thing that seems

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daunting and probably not that interesting. And

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so that's another one where fear is more prevalent

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and obvious. And so those scenes tend to be two

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people talking about other things. And why do

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we do this? And I don't want to do this anymore.

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I was drunk when I said yes and blah, blah, blah,

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blah. And nothing happens and nobody cares. And

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it seems really boring. And it usually will end

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with them deciding to jump out of the plane or

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get on the roller coaster. And by then, everybody's

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asleep and the scene's over. So what do you do

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if you get a suggestion of jumping out of an

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airplane? Well, you could pick up from where

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you've landed. Wow, that was fun. I don't want

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to do that again, but that was great. Or what

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I like to do is immediately jump out of the plane.

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It's been a long time since I got that as a suggestion.

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But if I did, I would do the same thing. I would

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just immediately jump out of the plane. Because

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now you're in the unknown. And now, even though

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that's harder, the audience is most likely going

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to be with you. Because they don't know what's

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going to happen. Is your parachute going to work?

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Are you going to reach the ground? Okay, what's

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going to happen? And so those are some of the

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obvious examples that happen. Another one is

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like two characters are in a romantic situation

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and it's escalating towards a sexual encounter.

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That one also would require some nuance to get

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around. The big one there that I often see is,

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well, we don't have to go right from, hey, this

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is my apartment, to we're deep in each other,

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shall we say. You can... What would you like

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to drink? Let me dim the lights. Let's put on

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some music. So, have you ever done anything like

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this before? There's lots of the romancing up

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into the actual consummation of the evening,

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if you want to put it that way. And as long as

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you're progressing, we'll watch that. Not forever,

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but for quite a while, as long as action continues.

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Which goes to my point, or goes to my, I guess,

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the reason I talk about... Don't stop action.

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Once you stop action, nothing is happening. Your

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audience will go to sleep. Narrative is two things.

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Or the progression of story. It's discovery.

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The audience or the characters discover something

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they did not know before. Oh, my spouse is cheating.

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Oh, so -and -so is attracted to me. Oh, I got

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fired. These are... Sorry, the last one is not

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really a discovery. Oh, I've been fired is a

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discovery. The other one is an action. Something

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happens. I've been fired. I have discovered my

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spouse in the midst of a romantic affiliation

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with some stranger. So these are also action.

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And you need one of those two to drive a story

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forward. And so when you shut down action. you

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stop the most obvious way to move the scene forward

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so just a little bit of an action because let's

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go to the beach is not really action in this

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terms of story character sense but it is enough

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of a of a forward momentum to keep the audience

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okay i'm with you uh but eventually you're gonna

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have to get to the action of the scene and and

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in this way So just to point out the difference,

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there's a difference between getting a cup of

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coffee and asking someone else to join you for

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a cup of coffee because you want to talk to them

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or because you like them. So there's different

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qualities there. But for this discussion, don't

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stop either one of them. Even if it's something

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you dislike, you know, well, it's time to, your

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hand has got gangrene. We're going to cut off

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your arm. Of course, you know, most actors and

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characters and improvisers, well, the characters

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and improvisers are different. Most actors, improvisers

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would pull their hand away. No, you're not cutting

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my hand off. And of course, that's what the character

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wants. The character doesn't want their hand

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cut off. But as the actor, you've got to let

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your character do it. So if you've got in a scene

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and you've got gangrene and the character playing

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the doctor or whomever with the machete wants

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to take off your arm. Oh, man, I didn't think

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I'd lose my arm this way, but here it goes. Remember,

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it's not real. So you can get your arm cut off

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and see. You just have to provide an explanation

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as to why your character would say yes. And this

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one, we get it because your hand is gangrenous.

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And if you do not remove it, you will subsequently

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die from that. You can also have other reasons.

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You can have reasons that are not even that...

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Well, that'd be somewhat relatable, but they

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may be things that I wouldn't do. So a character,

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you know, it might be, well, I'm going to cut

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off your arm with my machete. You know what?

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I've never had that level of pain. I wonder what

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that's like. That is something that's not quite

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relatable, at least not to me. Like I've never

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had that level of pain and I'm not really keen

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to try it. But I understand on some level why

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somebody would, because you've explained it to

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me. You've justified it. You've made it somewhat

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relatable. Okay, he wants an experience or they

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want an experience unlike something they've ever

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had. Okay, you know, the thing is when it gets

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too unrelatable, people will tune out. But the

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base thing here, the base point is do not stop

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action. Try to keep action going unless it is

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something you do not want to do. If you're doing

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a scene with some dude and you don't know them

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and they're doing a sexual thing, stop it. Absolutely.

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Stop it. Don't do anything you don't want to

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do. Maybe they want to be in a car and they see,

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oh, there's a pack of dogs running across the

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street. Let's run them down. No, no, we're not

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doing that. Don't do anything you don't want

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to do. But within the realm of make -believe

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that you are comfortable with, try to keep action

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going, even if it is something you do not like.

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Oh, hey, I'm going to cut your hair. Oh, yeah,

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it's that time. It is getting kind of long. allow

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the action to happen because remember it's not

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real and the action no matter what it is like

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that kind of action the action that is not tied

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to character or emotion like getting your hair

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cut which it can be but in in this case it's

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just like it's just a plot point um or a beat

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of you know of um gotta find a way to differentiate

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action and and doing stuff this is a doing thing

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And it doesn't matter unless it affects you in

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an emotional way, and then it will matter. But

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getting a haircut, grabbing a cup of coffee,

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getting into your car, taking your keys out,

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these are just little bits of business. Business,

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that's probably what it is. And they don't matter.

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discovering your keys are missing and then going,

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no, no, no, I've got to go back to my ex's house

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and get my spare set of keys. That's action because

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you can tell, ooh, it fills us with a sense of

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emotion and purpose. Anyway, that's my thing

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for today. Try to do everything you can to keep

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the action going. You can subvert it, move it,

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whatever you want, but you want to keep doing

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things. Uh, and, uh, I'll get into this another

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time cause I'm running out of time, but I just,

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but since I'm on the topic of action, the minute

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you hear yourself or another person saying, you

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know what we should do, you immediately do it.

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We should go for coffee. Hey, let's sit down

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here and have a cup of coffee. We should quit

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our jobs. Hey, Hey boss, go to heck. I'm saying

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heck because I don't want to get a bad rating

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here. But anyway, you know what I mean? As soon

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as you say you, we should, or why don't we immediately

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do that thing? That's the way you should do it.

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All right. Thanks, everybody. This has been another

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episode of the Silk App Improv Comedy Podcast.

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My name's Ralph. We'll see you here next time

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for more improv comedy -related content. Take

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care. Bye.
