WEBVTT 00:00:04.549 --> 00:00:07.950 This episode brought to you by All Trades Page, 00:00:08.169 --> 00:00:11.050 empowering the youth as the next generation of 00:00:11.050 --> 00:00:15.769 skilled trade workers. Learn more at alltradespage 00:00:15.769 --> 00:00:19.910 .com. All right, everyone. Thank you so much 00:00:19.910 --> 00:00:23.870 for joining Did You Know? The Esco Age Back Podcast. 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.559 So you all know how much of an advocate we are 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:30.399 here at ESCO for the trades and the expansion 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.460 of the trades in showing the, not just our industry, 00:00:33.619 --> 00:00:37.640 but the world, the opportunities within the trades. 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:40.380 And so we've been trying to invest more time 00:00:40.380 --> 00:00:43.780 in things like SkillsUSA and different competitions 00:00:43.780 --> 00:00:46.439 and high school programs and even middle school 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:50.560 programs, trying to help. show what we do in 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:52.679 a different light because I know myself I would 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:55.000 have loved to have known more about the trades 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:58.079 when I was in school because I didn't find it 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:02.100 until later in life and so we really want to 00:01:02.100 --> 00:01:05.019 promote our advocates of the trade and so today 00:01:05.019 --> 00:01:07.959 we have like one of the funnest advocates in 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.579 the industry how are you doing I am so good thank 00:01:11.579 --> 00:01:13.519 you so much for having me and calling me the 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:16.569 funnest thank you I don't know if you've seen 00:01:16.569 --> 00:01:18.250 any of the things that I do. So like when I go 00:01:18.250 --> 00:01:20.510 to trade shows and conferences, I am like the 00:01:20.510 --> 00:01:24.150 goofiest guy you've ever seen. I show up in like 00:01:24.150 --> 00:01:28.129 mad scientist costumes. I have like a costume 00:01:28.129 --> 00:01:30.290 for every conference that I go to. And it was 00:01:30.290 --> 00:01:31.950 supposed to be like this goofy thing. Like I 00:01:31.950 --> 00:01:33.849 got like gold sequined suits and everything. 00:01:34.049 --> 00:01:36.810 I love that. Yeah. And so I show up and like 00:01:36.810 --> 00:01:38.510 I did it a couple of times just kind of like 00:01:38.510 --> 00:01:41.280 for fun. And then everyone is now like. What 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.280 do you wear next? And so like, I'm going through 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.000 your videos and I'm like, she's got the polka 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.579 dotted going on. She's got the great glasses. 00:01:48.659 --> 00:01:50.359 I'm so glad you wore the glasses today because 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:54.620 I like fits right in. Thank you. And so what 00:01:54.620 --> 00:01:58.620 you represent is really the heart of the trades, 00:01:58.780 --> 00:02:01.939 right? It's showing that we have to be more. 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.439 open to think about trades, not just as our individuals, 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.219 but especially as parents who are looking at 00:02:09.219 --> 00:02:13.060 careers. One of the things that you mentioned 00:02:13.060 --> 00:02:15.599 in one of your videos, and I think it should 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:18.039 be the name of this podcast, is there's no gender 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:22.979 to a job, right? So if you think about any job, 00:02:23.099 --> 00:02:27.219 like if it's an IT job, does it matter what color 00:02:27.219 --> 00:02:29.710 or gender a person is sitting next to? their 00:02:29.710 --> 00:02:32.110 coworker. Right. Or age. If you have a skill, 00:02:32.289 --> 00:02:36.610 you have a skill. Exactly. And so in our trade, 00:02:36.689 --> 00:02:41.949 I keep saying like our trade has this stigma 00:02:41.949 --> 00:02:51.539 of being. Middle -aged white guys. And it's a 00:02:51.539 --> 00:02:53.939 shame because that's not it. Because I can tell 00:02:53.939 --> 00:02:56.780 you for a fact, I can remember the very first 00:02:56.780 --> 00:03:00.580 time that I encountered a female welder. And 00:03:00.580 --> 00:03:02.759 I was young into the trade. I was in my early 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:05.360 20s and I was at this job site. And they were 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.000 talking about this gal, Jane, that was this welder. 00:03:09.289 --> 00:03:12.009 I had just freshly came out of some welding classes. 00:03:12.110 --> 00:03:14.849 Boy, I just thought I was just this young muffin, 00:03:14.949 --> 00:03:20.129 right? Until I learned what it really was. And 00:03:20.129 --> 00:03:28.189 this gal, she was good. She was so good, every 00:03:28.189 --> 00:03:31.990 guy was jealous. So it made me kind of rethink 00:03:31.990 --> 00:03:36.949 the trades. And that was probably 25 years ago. 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:43.400 And so now we have this wonderful, like blossoming 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.800 within our industry where it's now becoming more 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.620 acceptable for everyone to look at the trades. 00:03:49.979 --> 00:03:53.620 And it's it's a beautiful thing. And so I would 00:03:53.620 --> 00:03:55.960 love for you to share. I mean, I've watched your 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.979 videos. I love this story. Maybe you could share 00:03:58.979 --> 00:04:02.280 a little bit about your journey and then we can 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:03.879 talk about like the things that you're doing 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:07.080 in the industry. Sure. Yeah. So my journey started 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.400 really kind of early. My parents owned rental 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.560 properties, so I got used to working with my 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.819 hands. And I thought I should go to tech school 00:04:13.819 --> 00:04:15.719 to learn more of these skills so we don't have 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.800 to hire so many people because it adds up. Yeah. 00:04:19.100 --> 00:04:21.939 Yeah. So I thought, let me just go learn these 00:04:21.939 --> 00:04:24.120 skills and I can help out at the houses. Little 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:25.839 did I know that it would take me down this completely 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.879 different path that I absolutely love. So I went 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.019 to tech school for plumbing. I was basically 00:04:32.019 --> 00:04:35.439 top of my class in that. entire school which 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:37.620 had seven sending schools so it was kind of a 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:40.079 big deal i competed in the plumbing competition 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.600 my junior and senior year in skills usa yeah 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.139 and then when i graduated it was 2020 so everything 00:04:48.139 --> 00:04:50.399 just kind of like all stopped at once i didn't 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.639 get to graduate i didn't get to go to nationals 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.699 for skills usa which killed me inside but i tried 00:04:55.699 --> 00:04:58.300 to find an opportunity from it so i started sharing 00:04:58.300 --> 00:05:01.060 my story online and trying to be an inspiration 00:05:01.060 --> 00:05:03.199 and an advocate for the younger generation to 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.310 tell them that But it's okay to get into it because 00:05:05.310 --> 00:05:07.170 I was told by my guidance counselors that it 00:05:07.170 --> 00:05:09.189 was a bad idea. And I don't think any kid should 00:05:09.189 --> 00:05:11.410 hear that ever. They should be supported. If 00:05:11.410 --> 00:05:13.810 you love it, you should try it. Right. Yeah. 00:05:13.870 --> 00:05:16.589 So I started writing books. I have a Plummer 00:05:16.589 --> 00:05:19.870 Page book series out on Amazon. And that was 00:05:19.870 --> 00:05:24.810 what I did during COVID. Thank you. Love it. 00:05:24.889 --> 00:05:27.089 Like your third one getting ready to come out 00:05:27.089 --> 00:05:30.319 now. Fourth. Yeah. So I have three plumber page 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.819 books and I'm coming out with a fourth book. 00:05:32.899 --> 00:05:35.240 And instead of it being plumber page, it's a 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:39.360 new character HVAC Ava. Oh my goodness. Look 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.259 at you. Yeah. Okay. So we will have to connect 00:05:43.259 --> 00:05:45.220 after this because I'd love to make these available 00:05:45.220 --> 00:05:47.560 on our, on our channel, on our site as well. 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.120 Cause that's super cool. Awesome. Thank you. 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:54.920 I would love that. You know, One of the things 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:58.120 that you'd mentioned in one of your videos was 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:01.000 that your mom had actually mentioned to you that, 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.839 you know, in plumbing, you're actually going 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.980 to encounter poo, right? It's not the cleanest 00:06:06.980 --> 00:06:09.939 job in the world. And I feel the exact same way 00:06:09.939 --> 00:06:11.720 because, you know, I've been in HVAC, I've been 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.600 in plumbing, electrical, and I've been in some 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.220 pretty nasty places. But at the same time, I've 00:06:17.220 --> 00:06:21.120 been in some amazing places. And I always relate 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:27.459 the trades to... we're kind of, it's my own personal 00:06:27.459 --> 00:06:30.300 opinion, but I think people in the trades have 00:06:30.300 --> 00:06:34.779 servant hearts. Yeah. We do what we do because 00:06:34.779 --> 00:06:37.839 we love serving people. We love helping people 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.439 and we love doing things that makes a difference 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:43.839 in the world. Do you get that same rush out of 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.050 that? Yes, exactly that. And like seeing that, 00:06:47.089 --> 00:06:49.389 I always say I'm the superhero. Seeing something 00:06:49.389 --> 00:06:52.509 not work and then it work again and the joy that 00:06:52.509 --> 00:06:54.769 it brings the customers, nothing compares to 00:06:54.769 --> 00:06:57.410 that. No. You know, one of the things, I was 00:06:57.410 --> 00:07:00.209 watching one of your videos and I so wish they 00:07:00.209 --> 00:07:02.310 would have like put in some B -roll because one 00:07:02.310 --> 00:07:04.310 of the things that you mentioned was, you know, 00:07:04.310 --> 00:07:07.209 a lot of people are surprised when a young lady 00:07:07.209 --> 00:07:11.089 shows up to fix their things at home. Especially 00:07:11.089 --> 00:07:13.649 the older men. I'm like, I wish there was some 00:07:13.649 --> 00:07:18.790 B -roll of some guy going. I know. It happens 00:07:18.790 --> 00:07:21.829 way too often. And there's like, now friends 00:07:21.829 --> 00:07:24.949 recommend me to other people. And so they're 00:07:24.949 --> 00:07:27.410 like a couple years older than me men who are 00:07:27.410 --> 00:07:29.329 buying their houses for the first time. And they're 00:07:29.329 --> 00:07:31.470 kind of ashamed already that they don't know 00:07:31.470 --> 00:07:33.790 that stuff. And then when the younger girl comes 00:07:33.790 --> 00:07:36.930 in, it's just like, oh gosh, like what did I 00:07:36.930 --> 00:07:39.850 do with my life? Oh, that has to be so empowering. 00:07:40.250 --> 00:07:42.930 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't like to make people 00:07:42.930 --> 00:07:46.269 feel like bad about themselves. I try to encourage 00:07:46.269 --> 00:07:48.930 them and like teach them like, this is just the 00:07:48.930 --> 00:07:51.129 path that I chose. I'm blessed. I'm lucky. And 00:07:51.129 --> 00:07:54.209 now you can learn, you know? Yeah. But that, 00:07:54.250 --> 00:07:59.189 that personal empowerment of not just doing something, 00:07:59.250 --> 00:08:02.189 but doing something that makes a difference in 00:08:02.189 --> 00:08:05.389 the world and in people's lives around you, there's 00:08:05.389 --> 00:08:08.230 just nothing like that. And too many people. 00:08:08.699 --> 00:08:10.839 are not exposed to that. I think that's really 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:14.079 the lack of new talent in the trades is that 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.379 people just aren't exposed to that. Right. Yeah. 00:08:17.500 --> 00:08:20.660 I mean, and when you think about it, AI is going 00:08:20.660 --> 00:08:22.459 to take over all of these other jobs anyway. 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.769 So all of us that. do experience that we already 00:08:26.769 --> 00:08:29.089 get it we're already doing it you know and then 00:08:29.089 --> 00:08:31.069 the people who haven't experienced that yet they're 00:08:31.069 --> 00:08:32.690 they're in for a rude awakening but hopefully 00:08:32.690 --> 00:08:36.330 a good one i agree and you know i'm as so i'm 00:08:36.330 --> 00:08:41.330 a parent and i've got a range of ages of children 00:08:41.330 --> 00:08:44.889 that are both intellectual and in the mechanical 00:08:44.889 --> 00:08:50.399 side and so we have two girls that Kind of at 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:53.799 home. One's getting ready to be a junior in college. 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.679 One is a senior in high school. And they're kind 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.799 of tossed. The one in college enjoys college. 00:09:00.940 --> 00:09:02.700 The one in high school doesn't want to go to 00:09:02.700 --> 00:09:06.039 college, wants to do more, like wants to make 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:09.059 a difference in the world, is very much into 00:09:09.059 --> 00:09:15.299 the cooking, baking side of trades, but making 00:09:15.299 --> 00:09:18.820 things, right? And the arts and crafts. And it's 00:09:18.820 --> 00:09:20.899 so encouraging to see that there's been this 00:09:20.899 --> 00:09:23.919 shift. Because another thing you mentioned was 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:27.639 in school, some of the counselors kind of looked 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:29.399 at the trades as like something you didn't want 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:31.980 to do that you shouldn't be interested in. Option 00:09:31.980 --> 00:09:34.980 B. Option B. And it's been that way for a long 00:09:34.980 --> 00:09:37.879 time, but I'm starting to feel a change. And 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:42.759 people like yourself are the proof of that change. 00:09:42.860 --> 00:09:46.039 Right. That shift. Yeah, I mean, that's been 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:47.879 the whole goal. You see a lot more organizations 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:51.080 and initiatives now pushing to close that skills 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:54.399 gap and make it more accessible and appreciated 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.759 to go into the trades, no matter what field. 00:09:56.820 --> 00:09:59.120 I was recommended to go to culinary or cosmetology 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.159 or something. And that's okay, because a lot 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.059 of people do that. And that's still very rewarding. 00:10:03.379 --> 00:10:06.340 But construction is also an option. So just talking 00:10:06.340 --> 00:10:08.820 about it, making it available, like those initiatives, 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.100 I'm glad to see that it's finally making a difference. 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.399 And that's what it's all about. Yeah, I am too, 00:10:13.460 --> 00:10:15.419 because there was a period of time, especially 00:10:15.419 --> 00:10:22.340 through the 90s and early 2000s, a lot of schools 00:10:22.340 --> 00:10:26.360 got away from the hands -on learning. They got 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:28.980 away from shop classes and automotive classes. 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:32.539 I had electrical troubleshooting classes in high 00:10:32.539 --> 00:10:35.440 school in the early 90s. That's cool. And it 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:38.240 all went away. Right, yeah. We're starting to 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.700 see that more. So tell me about the programs 00:10:40.700 --> 00:10:44.519 that you had available for you. so we had a tech 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.720 school that you would go to half the day so you 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:49.100 would do half day academics at your home school 00:10:49.100 --> 00:10:51.539 and then they would bus you to the tech school 00:10:51.539 --> 00:10:53.559 and that's where i went into the plumbing lab 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.179 i started doing rotation so i did electrical 00:10:56.179 --> 00:10:59.019 hvac and plumbing but i ultimately ended up choosing 00:10:59.019 --> 00:11:01.779 plumbing after graduating there's a community 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.340 college that shares parking lot with the tech 00:11:05.340 --> 00:11:08.220 school that has construction management and HVAC. 00:11:08.379 --> 00:11:11.100 So I took both of those classes and I got two 00:11:11.100 --> 00:11:14.059 associate degrees in that. I also never saw myself 00:11:14.059 --> 00:11:16.559 on a college path, but because these options 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:18.419 were available to me, that's what I pursued. 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:21.500 But our tech school that I went to is one of 00:11:21.500 --> 00:11:24.919 the biggest in, I think it's the biggest in Pennsylvania 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.100 or the second largest or something. So yeah, 00:11:27.179 --> 00:11:29.799 I've just been very lucky with how my path has 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:33.259 worked out. Yeah. Well, it's... It opens up opportunities. 00:11:33.820 --> 00:11:36.259 And that's the thing about the trades. Like if 00:11:36.259 --> 00:11:39.200 you're going to pick a path for college, most 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.179 of our counselors are doing assessments for you, 00:11:42.220 --> 00:11:46.340 helping guide you into like this path. And you're 00:11:46.340 --> 00:11:48.700 going to go down this path and it's going to 00:11:48.700 --> 00:11:52.679 limit your access to other careers. And the cool 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.139 thing about the trades, I like to explain it 00:11:56.139 --> 00:11:59.509 like it's this. great big, beautiful tree. And 00:11:59.509 --> 00:12:02.490 it has all these leaves and branches and it flowers. 00:12:03.029 --> 00:12:07.409 And if you're on a limb and you don't like that 00:12:07.409 --> 00:12:12.149 limb, you can go to any of the others. It's like 00:12:12.149 --> 00:12:14.309 so many of them come together. So you'd mentioned 00:12:14.309 --> 00:12:16.370 that you're doing HVAC, electrical, plumbing, 00:12:16.450 --> 00:12:18.590 all in high school to kind of expose you to that. 00:12:18.789 --> 00:12:21.090 And then when you find those things, you can 00:12:21.090 --> 00:12:23.929 go this route. And I know when you first started 00:12:23.929 --> 00:12:25.870 doing this, because plumbing was the choice. 00:12:26.490 --> 00:12:29.629 It started out as a brand for you, Plumber Page, 00:12:29.769 --> 00:12:32.549 because everyone's like, this is a cool young 00:12:32.549 --> 00:12:35.429 gal that's in plumbing. Her name's Paige. We're 00:12:35.429 --> 00:12:37.070 going to call her Plumber Page, right? And so 00:12:37.070 --> 00:12:40.710 it became this entity for you. But now as you're 00:12:40.710 --> 00:12:44.429 developing these skills, your brand is actually 00:12:44.429 --> 00:12:47.490 developing. And so you're going to be having 00:12:47.490 --> 00:12:51.389 a whole new brand for yourself. Tell me a little 00:12:51.389 --> 00:12:54.879 bit about this evolution. yeah so it's a very 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.379 new evolution but also at the same time it's 00:12:58.379 --> 00:13:00.940 been existing for a really long time already 00:13:00.940 --> 00:13:04.159 you know so i started in plumbing but even at 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:08.080 i think 15 years old i was part of a construction 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.240 camp for girls where i learned every aspect of 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.759 the construction industry wow i built walls i 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:16.100 did tiling masonry i did all of it like literally 00:13:16.100 --> 00:13:18.059 anything you can think of i think i have tried 00:13:18.059 --> 00:13:21.019 it all so i've been all trades page since i was 00:13:21.019 --> 00:13:24.820 15 right but now i'm finally changing the name 00:13:24.820 --> 00:13:27.759 creating a brand evolving the characters creating 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.580 hvac ava i have a lot of the knowledge already 00:13:30.580 --> 00:13:33.240 i'm just finally transitioning that brand to 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.480 expose more people to more trades rather than 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:38.559 just plumbing. And it makes more sense. Plumber 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:40.860 page fits because it sounds cool, but all trades 00:13:40.860 --> 00:13:43.240 page makes more sense. Oh yeah. All trades page 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.100 is like, that's your career, but because it just 00:13:46.100 --> 00:13:48.960 opens up like what trade is next, right? You 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.519 master one and you move to the other. That's 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.980 the great thing about the trades is that they 00:13:53.980 --> 00:13:56.960 are so intertwined. Like here in my state of 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.100 Indiana, there is no HVAC license. So at one 00:14:01.100 --> 00:14:03.080 point in my career, I'm like, I'd like to do 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.580 something besides HVAC and some of the refrigeration. 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:07.659 Maybe I'd like to do controls. And so I went 00:14:07.659 --> 00:14:09.700 back to school. I got a master electrician license. 00:14:09.779 --> 00:14:11.879 And it's like, oh, well, there's a whole nother 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:14.759 world of opportunity just because I went to another 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:17.399 trade. And now it's just like you were mentioning, 00:14:17.460 --> 00:14:19.340 like how you had two associates degrees, right? 00:14:19.779 --> 00:14:22.139 It's like you can get good at one thing and you 00:14:22.139 --> 00:14:23.960 can get good at another thing. And combined, 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:26.779 they just open up all these new opportunities. 00:14:27.460 --> 00:14:30.659 Exactly. Yeah. I never saw myself doing any of 00:14:30.659 --> 00:14:33.059 this. And I thought when I finally chose plumbing, 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:34.820 I thought I would be a master plumber for the 00:14:34.820 --> 00:14:37.679 rest of my life. I'm not a master plumber, but 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:42.940 here I am, a jack of all trades. Yeah. Oh, that's 00:14:42.940 --> 00:14:47.080 really a big part of the trades is that you master 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.659 so many different things, like even just about 00:14:50.659 --> 00:14:53.820 the home, right? Think about how many people 00:14:53.820 --> 00:14:58.129 your age. don't understand any of the mechanics 00:14:58.129 --> 00:15:00.230 of a home. Like you said, just, you know, purchasing 00:15:00.230 --> 00:15:02.990 a new home. You could have someone go into a 00:15:02.990 --> 00:15:06.629 new home and go, okay, wonder what the mechanics 00:15:06.629 --> 00:15:09.009 of this thing are like. Right. It's so surprising 00:15:09.009 --> 00:15:11.389 how many people, how much people don't know. 00:15:11.529 --> 00:15:13.769 Like it feels like common knowledge because our 00:15:13.769 --> 00:15:16.899 household just, it's often. talked about, but 00:15:16.899 --> 00:15:19.220 so many people don't even know like how water 00:15:19.220 --> 00:15:21.980 gets into their home, how it stays a consistent 00:15:21.980 --> 00:15:24.059 temperature. Like what are you talking about? 00:15:24.259 --> 00:15:28.259 It blows my mind. Yeah. Yeah. And when it breaks, 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:30.899 like what's my first steps? Do I even know like 00:15:30.899 --> 00:15:33.700 where shutoff valves are and you know, how does 00:15:33.700 --> 00:15:36.580 this thing work? And so the things that it exposes 00:15:36.580 --> 00:15:39.740 us to, not only does it build a career, but it 00:15:39.740 --> 00:15:43.340 allows you to. be a part of your your own environment 00:15:43.340 --> 00:15:47.340 like you can work with it yeah exactly and you 00:15:47.340 --> 00:15:50.360 get like you really get to know it well and so 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:52.179 it gives you the opportunity to fix but also 00:15:52.179 --> 00:15:54.620 to predict and to advise people when they have 00:15:54.620 --> 00:15:57.659 their own problems Yeah. I mean, that's what 00:15:57.659 --> 00:16:00.539 my books and my content is kind of focused on. 00:16:00.620 --> 00:16:04.840 The books are how to fix things. So kids can 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:09.340 do it, right? But adults need it too. And then 00:16:09.340 --> 00:16:11.440 they can work together, understand a little bit 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.379 more about how their house works, get kids touching 00:16:14.379 --> 00:16:17.220 tools. It's great for the entire family to create 00:16:17.220 --> 00:16:20.240 those conversations really early before they're 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:23.500 told that it's a bad option in high school. Even 00:16:23.500 --> 00:16:26.159 here at the ESCO Institute, and I know you've 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.240 got some ESCO certifications yourself, right 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.580 from us. Yeah, I got my 608 and A2L, lots of 00:16:32.580 --> 00:16:37.139 HVAC excellence things. Fantastic. When we're 00:16:37.139 --> 00:16:41.019 putting together curriculum, our goal is to take 00:16:41.019 --> 00:16:43.480 some of the more advanced things that are in 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:47.120 the industry, but make it digestible to an elementary 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.740 student, right? And so that's really what you're 00:16:49.740 --> 00:16:52.940 doing. You're taking these things that... Even 00:16:52.940 --> 00:16:56.500 a homeowner, every homeowner should know, but 00:16:56.500 --> 00:17:00.779 they don't. And you're explaining that to a child, 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:05.079 but yet it's actually, you're explaining it to 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:08.920 all of us in a way that we can understand. Right. 00:17:09.019 --> 00:17:12.450 Yeah. That's the goal at least. It is. We're 00:17:12.450 --> 00:17:13.869 going to have to adopt these books because our 00:17:13.869 --> 00:17:17.309 president, Howard Weiss, he keeps going, you 00:17:17.309 --> 00:17:18.710 know, we got to make some like children's book 00:17:18.710 --> 00:17:20.089 for HVAC. We got to make some children's book. 00:17:20.130 --> 00:17:21.670 I said, no, we just got to find the right ones. 00:17:21.730 --> 00:17:22.829 That's what we got to do. Let's just make one 00:17:22.829 --> 00:17:25.509 together. I'm really digging this. And I've even 00:17:25.509 --> 00:17:29.309 been doing like comic book flip books for a lot 00:17:29.309 --> 00:17:31.170 of like refrigerants and stuff. Because it is, 00:17:31.170 --> 00:17:33.950 it's the way you present it. And so, no, I'm 00:17:33.950 --> 00:17:35.390 just going to keep adopting yours. That's what 00:17:35.390 --> 00:17:40.079 I'm going to do. Cool. I love it. So tell us, 00:17:40.099 --> 00:17:43.519 like, where can we find information on what you're 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:46.720 doing? Yeah. So All Trades page will be the new 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.779 website. Currently it's Plumber page, but it 00:17:48.779 --> 00:17:51.619 should redirect to that one. And that will have. 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:54.390 hopefully every single project that I'm involved 00:17:54.390 --> 00:17:57.470 in. I create content. I speak at schools, events, 00:17:57.670 --> 00:17:59.809 organizations. I try to show up to trade shows. 00:17:59.950 --> 00:18:02.849 I create books. I also still work in the HVAC 00:18:02.849 --> 00:18:05.450 industry. I'm a commercial service apprentice. 00:18:06.289 --> 00:18:09.390 So I do a lot of things. But if you want to follow 00:18:09.390 --> 00:18:11.369 me, just look up All Trades page and you should 00:18:11.369 --> 00:18:14.589 find it somewhere online. Yeah. And what about 00:18:14.589 --> 00:18:17.410 social media? Yeah. Right now it's all plumber 00:18:17.410 --> 00:18:19.630 page, but that also will be changing to all trades 00:18:19.630 --> 00:18:22.250 page on every platform. Everything. Fantastic. 00:18:22.769 --> 00:18:25.450 All right. So we're evolving. We're moving into 00:18:25.450 --> 00:18:29.930 all trades page. What's next? I hate that question. 00:18:30.589 --> 00:18:34.289 I haven't found it yet. It's terrifying. I never 00:18:34.289 --> 00:18:37.289 know what my next step is. I just do it. When 00:18:37.289 --> 00:18:41.230 it approaches, you follow. Right. And so like, 00:18:41.309 --> 00:18:43.849 I've been doing a lot of electrical work. I've 00:18:43.849 --> 00:18:46.170 been connecting with a lot of roofers. So maybe 00:18:46.170 --> 00:18:48.809 that's next. Maybe I'm going to become a teacher. 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:52.640 Who knows? I have no idea. No, it's definitely 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:55.700 in the horizon because giving back is one of 00:18:55.700 --> 00:18:57.799 the most important. Like once we learn the information, 00:18:57.980 --> 00:19:00.880 it's like this progression where we were afraid 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:02.819 to learn. Then we finally learn and then we get 00:19:02.819 --> 00:19:05.319 excited and then we do that. And then at some 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:07.579 point we're ready to share. And you're already 00:19:07.579 --> 00:19:09.880 into the sharing. So you've you've evolved very 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:13.599 quickly into what we do as as professionals. 00:19:13.700 --> 00:19:16.559 And I'm so proud of you. And I'm just. excited 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:19.339 the way that you're sharing your stories. So 00:19:19.339 --> 00:19:24.539 I've also seen some of the videos are actually 00:19:24.539 --> 00:19:28.599 represented and sponsored by 3M. And so there's 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.420 some really cool videos. So not just the ones 00:19:31.420 --> 00:19:34.799 that you've done, like what series have those 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:39.500 videos been a part of? So I was part of a docuseries 00:19:39.500 --> 00:19:43.000 that we premiered at the Sundance Film Festival. 00:19:43.380 --> 00:19:46.180 It was sponsored by 3M. It's called Skilled. 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.640 It was three or four years ago now. I was one 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:51.880 of four skilled trades professionals that they 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:54.579 talked about. And it was a really cool story. 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:58.240 Definitely highly recommend everyone go check 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:00.380 it out. Not only my story, but everyone that 00:20:00.380 --> 00:20:03.960 was shown in that documentary. It's really inspiring 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:06.420 and exactly what we need for the industry to 00:20:06.420 --> 00:20:10.140 keep growing and encouraging. I agree. Paige 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:12.819 Knowles, I am so glad that you joined us today. 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.900 I look forward to some more conversations going 00:20:14.900 --> 00:20:19.839 forward. And you can find Paige at alltradespage 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.099 .com. I encourage you all to check it out and 00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:24.240 stay motivated.