1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,720 Yeah, we're recording right now. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,720 Love it. 3 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,720 Good morning, good afternoon, and good night, BFAM Podcast. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,280 Thank you for joining me from wherever you are, and thank you for giving me your time. 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,840 Today I have with me, introduce yourself. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Hey, I'm Wayne Federman. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:21,360 I'm Austin's professor at the University of Southern California. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:28,560 And he's taking a class that I teach, a GE class, called the history of standup comedy. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,880 So we started in the 1850s. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,200 We've been doing that, and then we're going to slowly make our way till today. 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,200 So it's pretty fun. 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,240 Yeah, from Mark Twain to Dave Chappelle. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Yeah. 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,160 But to start off, can you just give us a little bit of your background? 15 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,920 What got you into comedy? 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Why is it important to you? 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Just stuff around that area. 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:55,080 Well, I'm a standup comedian as well as a professor, and also an actor and a writer. 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:01,120 I'm on double strike, so I can't promote anything right now as a Screen Actors Guild member. 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,760 They don't allow us to promote anything, even though I was just on a television show. 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,360 I'm not going to talk about it. 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,000 I'm on strike. 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,280 Now when I was, how old are you, Austin? 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,280 18. 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Yeah. 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,920 See, before I was even, by the time I was 18, I already knew that I wanted to try to 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,920 become a comedian. 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,040 I was already like, everything was focused on that. 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,640 So I had a two track mind. 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,960 I wanted to be a standup comedian in Austin who could also act. 31 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:30,960 Right. 32 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:31,960 Like that was it. 33 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:35,560 I wasn't interested in writing or anything other than my act. 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,040 So that's kind of what I did. 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 And even in high school, I was performing in high school. 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:48,880 I did ventriloquism in high school and then started doing standup in college when I was 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:49,880 in college. 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,920 But I always wanted to be on stage. 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,680 It was always like, it was funny in class. 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,680 You know the way you're in class. 41 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,680 You can get laughs and stuff. 42 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,680 You got to crank the joke. 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 44 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,680 That was always the thing. 45 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,800 But let me tell you, I was not disruptive. 46 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,600 I always felt like there was kids who could make other kids laugh and were disruptive. 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,440 And then there were kids a little higher level, in my opinion, I might be wrong, that could 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:14,720 make the teacher laugh. 49 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,960 If you made the teacher laugh, you're like, oh, because they are the authority. 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Right. 51 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,760 So that was my goal starting in high school when I found out about comedy. 52 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,200 And then I just became a crazy comedy nerd. 53 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:33,240 It's weird because just today, you saw a little of Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, the 54 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,000 ventriloquists from the radio show. 55 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,520 And when I started doing ventriloquism, that's the guy I learned from. 56 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,320 He had an instructional record that I listened to. 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,580 It wasn't video. 58 00:02:44,580 --> 00:02:45,840 It was not video. 59 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,640 So how do you learn from a ventriloquist? 60 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:48,640 Record. 61 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,120 You just listen to him. 62 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Yeah, he'll teach you how to sort of substitute certain letters for ones that move your lips. 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,400 So that was it. 64 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,400 That's how I started. 65 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,480 It's weird that we just saw it. 66 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Have you ever heard of Edgar Bergen before then? 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,760 No, I haven't. 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,000 I've seen ventriloquists on like America's Got Talent, but that's about it. 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,000 He was huge. 70 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,080 He was huge on radio. 71 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,040 And it's so funny and his dummy was very... 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,680 We're not going to really go over it in class because he's not a stand up and I'm trying 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,200 to focus just on that. 74 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 But his dummy was incredible. 75 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,640 Charlie McCarthy was really... 76 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:33,440 You could say things that other people couldn't say because he was like... 77 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,440 He had that latitude. 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,440 It was really weird. 79 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,760 But so that's how it started. 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Is that clear? 81 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Oh, I'm from Florida. 82 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,760 I'm from Florida. 83 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Okay. 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Yeah, I grew up. 85 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Where are you from? 86 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Yeah, we both grew up a long way from home. 87 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,760 Yeah. 88 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:55,200 But comedy has been a big part of my life as well. 89 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,160 And one of my favorite stand ups would probably be... 90 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,160 You know Rashid Thurman? 91 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,160 No? 92 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,160 Tell me about him. 93 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Oh my God. 94 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Well, I only know one act by him, but it was one of the best ones I ever heard. 95 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,960 I wonder if I can play it without getting copyrighted. 96 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,960 You might get a copyright problem. 97 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,960 But I'll look him up afterwards. 98 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,960 All right. 99 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Tell me about him. 100 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,720 First of all, how did you discover him? 101 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,720 Was it on TikTok? 102 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,720 Was it on... 103 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,080 No, when I was growing up, my dad and my granddad are like the funniest people I know. 104 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,880 So they would always be going back and forth. 105 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,280 And as a kid, I'm growing up, I'm hearing the stuff. 106 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,960 I'm knowing it's funny in some way. 107 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,240 But when I got older, I could start to understand the jokes and what was being said and what 108 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,240 is going on. 109 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,760 And it was still pretty funny. 110 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,200 So my dad would play this clip by Rashid Thurman. 111 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,200 It was a... 112 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Rashid Thurman? 113 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Yeah, it was a clip. 114 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,160 It was a clip and it was... 115 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,960 The skit was like, you can't rob an old Spanish dude. 116 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,960 Oh, really? 117 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Okay. 118 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,960 You can't rob an old Spanish dude. 119 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:50,960 And it was stand up? 120 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Yeah, it was stand up. 121 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Oh, I can't wait to see. 122 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,240 Okay, guys, we're going to go on this adventure together. 123 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,240 I love you. 124 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,240 And then Richard Pryor got a good one. 125 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,240 The mafia joke is one of my favorite jokes. 126 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,000 I got to get more into it. 127 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Yeah, we'll play that. 128 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,840 We'll probably play that in the class when we get to... 129 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:10,920 Because it's very interesting to me, I mean, Richard Pryor was the guy. 130 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,920 Yeah. 131 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Like when I was... 132 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,920 He was the guy. 133 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,920 Yeah. 134 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,520 And every time there's a list of the greatest comedians, he's always on the top of it for 135 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,880 a number of reasons. 136 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,440 But that mafia joke is really interesting because we're going to learn about how the 137 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,280 mafia ran these nightclubs all across the United States. 138 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:30,280 Not just in... 139 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:31,280 He's from Peoria, Illinois. 140 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:32,280 Okay. 141 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:34,080 So it's not just Chicago and New York. 142 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,520 It's like all these little clubs the mafia ran. 143 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,840 So then he ran into those guys who started laughing when he tried to shake them down 144 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:42,840 for money. 145 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:43,840 It was so great. 146 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:47,080 Yeah, that's a big section. 147 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,840 We're not even there yet. 148 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:52,120 We're just getting out of vaudeville right now on the radio. 149 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,440 The more I sit in class, the more it makes more and more sense. 150 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,880 But when I first got in there, I was so lost. 151 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,880 Really? 152 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Yeah, I was kind of lost. 153 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Tell me. 154 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:00,880 I'm very curious. 155 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,040 It was interesting at the same time because when you see comedy today, you just see people 156 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,520 standing up telling funny jokes. 157 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,760 When you really go back, you see it was almost kind of rooted in racism at first in some 158 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,800 sort of way, but it grew from that. 159 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,280 And as time went on, people... 160 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,120 I would say it was more rooted... 161 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,120 I wouldn't use... 162 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,200 I use the word rooted in ethnic stereotypes. 163 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Yeah. 164 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,680 That's the way I would say it. 165 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,040 But a lot of people think that. 166 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,760 So that's totally right. 167 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,040 As a matter of fact, remember we were talking about Bob Hope today? 168 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,120 I have an incredible clip of him talking about that. 169 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,120 That's sweet. 170 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Yeah. 171 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,120 But yeah. 172 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,120 We're going to see it on Monday. 173 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,840 It's him talking about how comedy changed and that was a big change that it was all you 174 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,880 were doing in Irish, that black guy. 175 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Yeah, yeah. 176 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,880 But yeah. 177 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,160 And then one thing, I feel like I'm a funny person. 178 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,400 I don't like to call myself a funny person because when you do that, it kind of takes... 179 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Right, it ruins it. 180 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,400 Yeah. 181 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,400 It takes away from it. 182 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,520 But I always wanted to learn how to structure jokes like the comedians do on stage because 183 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,960 I don't think I would know how to or even start. 184 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Why don't you take the history? 185 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,280 There's a stand up class that they teach at Toronto School, which is called Introduction 186 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,280 to Stand Up. 187 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Okay. 188 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,280 I don't teach it. 189 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Yeah. 190 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,240 But this woman teaches it named Judith Shelton and she's great. 191 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,240 Yeah. 192 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,400 And that might be a great way for you to...if you have the time. 193 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,080 I mean, you're busy in business doing whatever you're doing in business here. 194 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,240 But that might be if you have time to do that. 195 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:35,120 And then I teach a course for the kids that pass that course, then they can study with 196 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,160 me called Becoming a Pro, like how to get open mics, that kind of stuff. 197 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,160 But she's...she'll really...yeah. 198 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:51,000 It might be if you want to, here's my...if I can give you the tiniest little advice. 199 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,080 Stand up comedy is like swimming. 200 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,800 Whatever I teach you or Judith teaches you or anyone that's like, it's good, but it's 201 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,760 not as good as getting up on stage and doing it. 202 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,760 You gotta do it. 203 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,760 I hate to say it, man. 204 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,440 You have to watch other comedians, watch how they do it and then do it. 205 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,080 That's better than anything I can teach you, anything any other comic can teach you. 206 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,080 So it's risky. 207 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,080 You know, you get up there like, oh, am I funny? 208 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,080 Is this thing? 209 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Am I wasting everyone's time? 210 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 But you're a charming guy, you know? 211 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Yeah. 212 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Another question I have is... 213 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Oh, okay. 214 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,240 How do you feel about the...you know how some comics are scared to go to therapy because 215 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,680 they think if they go to therapy, it'll make them unfunny? 216 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:34,680 I feel the same way. 217 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:38,760 I feel like I just lose my sense of humor if I were to... 218 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,760 That's a great debate. 219 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,680 That's a great debate with comedians. 220 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:42,680 Yeah. 221 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:44,480 Because some are on the other side. 222 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,960 They're like, hey, the more healthy I was, the easier it was to write jokes. 223 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Yeah. 224 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,160 And other people are like, well, the weird neurotic part of this is kind of the juice 225 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,160 that makes me funny. 226 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Yeah. 227 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,160 There is no answer to that. 228 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:04,320 I would just say, unless you just follow your own heart, I am one who won't take antidepressant 229 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,280 medications for that, partially for that reason. 230 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Also, I'm like, I just like to be alive as I am. 231 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,360 Yeah, that's me. 232 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,360 That's me. 233 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,960 But I don't want to judge anybody. 234 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:23,760 But I know famous comedians that used to get so nervous on stage before they would go on 235 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,800 that they would take something called a beta blocker. 236 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Do you know what that is? 237 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,360 I've never heard of it. 238 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,360 Slows down your heart rate. 239 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,000 Slows down your heart rate. 240 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 So they don't get too... 241 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Because when you get nervous, your heart rate goes up. 242 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Oh, it starts to spike. 243 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Yeah, yeah. 244 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Exactly. 245 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Exactly. 246 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,120 So I was like, yeah, I'd like to take that too, but I'm not going to affect my heart. 247 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,120 Yeah, you don't want to risk falling out on stage. 248 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,280 I'm not going to do any of that. 249 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,240 But yeah, that's a great question. 250 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,520 I don't really have the answer for that. 251 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,680 But I do know that some comedians are very self-destructive and could use some help. 252 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:05,600 And I've seen a lot of them with drugs and alcohol. 253 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,600 Obviously, there's a bunch of them that just burn out. 254 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,600 Yeah. 255 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,200 So how does a comedian deal with slowly becoming unfunny? 256 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 You don't have to look at me. 257 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,960 That's the worst question I ever got. 258 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,240 No, it's like it's... 259 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,560 Comedy is one of the hardest jobs because you're judged for every joke. 260 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:32,280 Whatever your last joke is, that's it. 261 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,240 And then they're like, what else you got? 262 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,240 So it's really... 263 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,240 There's a lot of pressure on it. 264 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,160 But you just have to... 265 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,160 It's a grind. 266 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,160 I hate to say it. 267 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,160 It's a grind. 268 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,160 So we are, just so you know what's going on, we're in a break... 269 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,160 What's called a breakout room. 270 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,480 Yeah, in the Marshall Building. 271 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,600 In the Marshall Building at USC, people are walking by and we can see people. 272 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,360 So it's a little distracting. 273 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,260 I feel like I'm in a fish tank. 274 00:10:55,260 --> 00:10:56,760 What does breakout mean? 275 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,480 I guess it's like a little study room. 276 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,480 So people... 277 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Why wouldn't they call it a study room? 278 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,480 I don't know. 279 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,200 I mean, you go from the classroom into the... 280 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,200 Oh, wait a minute. 281 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,640 Isn't on Zoom when you go to smaller rooms, don't they call that breakout rooms? 282 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Yeah, they call those breakout rooms. 283 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,640 Okay. 284 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,640 So maybe it's the same... 285 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,600 Maybe it's a physical manifestation of the Zoom rooms. 286 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Okay. 287 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,600 That does make sense. 288 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Yeah. 289 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,600 Oh, there's video. 290 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,600 These are pretty... 291 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,600 This is an incredibly high tech building. 292 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,600 What is the name of this building? 293 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,600 No. 294 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,600 What happened? 295 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,600 Somebody was trying to call me. 296 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,600 I had to decline the call. 297 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Okay. 298 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,600 But we back on. 299 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,600 We back on. 300 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,600 We're back on? 301 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Are you sure? 302 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Yeah, I'm sure. 303 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,600 Okay. 304 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,600 All right. 305 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,320 A very high tech recording equipment here. 306 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,600 It's also a phone and a flashlight, I assume, right? 307 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,600 Yeah. 308 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,600 Okay. 309 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Yeah, this is quite... 310 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,600 That's not me. 311 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,600 That's me. 312 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,600 He keeps calling. 313 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,600 All right. 314 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,600 Let's take a break. 315 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,600 Let's take a break. 316 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,600 No, we're going to keep going. 317 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,600 I'm going to text him. 318 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,600 That's the best thing about technology. 319 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,600 You can't turn off the phone part? 320 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,600 Yeah, I don't know how to mute him. 321 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,600 Oh my. 322 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,600 Who is it? 323 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Who is it? 324 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,600 This is a guy from my math class. 325 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Wait, are you a freshman? 326 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,600 Yeah, I am a freshman. 327 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,600 Oh my God. 328 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,600 So yeah, I'm just... 329 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,600 How's it going? 330 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Well, all right. 331 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,600 No, I'm open to questions. 332 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,600 I don't know. 333 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,600 Yeah. 334 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,600 So you're a freshman? 335 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,600 Yeah. 336 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,600 So your first day of school, you were in my class, right? 337 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Yeah. 338 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,600 That's amazing. 339 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,040 I've never taught freshmen like that before. 340 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Really? 341 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,040 That was the first for me. 342 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,040 Yeah. 343 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,040 Wow. 344 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,040 I'm sorry if it was too confusing at the beginning. 345 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,040 No, it's fine. 346 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,400 That's just anything with anything you learn new. 347 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,080 I've never been exposed to this type of history. 348 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,080 Yeah. 349 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,600 Everything that I'm learning here is almost basically brand new. 350 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Right, right. 351 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,600 Starting over. 352 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Right. 353 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Because in high school, and some schools, it's such a closed off curriculum. 354 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,720 You only learn in the academia. 355 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,720 You never get to step out of these fun classes. 356 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,200 How did you even get here? 357 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,840 Did you apply to a number of schools or did you just always want to go here? 358 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,400 No, but when I was growing up, I always wanted to move to California. 359 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,880 I never knew how I was going to get here, but I guess college was the way here. 360 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,360 But even throughout high school, I never knew where I was going to college. 361 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,600 I didn't want to think about it. 362 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,880 That's too much pressure to... 363 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,880 Really? 364 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,680 Coming here freshman year, thinking about where I'm going to college. 365 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,400 Am I going to make it to next week first? 366 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,400 Okay, okay, okay. 367 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,400 I know you're trying to stop there. 368 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,400 Yeah. 369 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,520 I was taking it one week at a time, one semester at a time. 370 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:32,200 By the time I got to the 11th grade, something just came to me that I wanted to go to USC. 371 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,200 And no idea? 372 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,960 What do you mean something came to you? 373 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,960 It was like an epiphany. 374 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,960 You ever just get an idea to just do something? 375 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,720 It popped out of me to at least try to get here. 376 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,720 I play football. 377 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,040 I've played a number of sports, but I play football. 378 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,720 So my first ticket out here was to go to the elite football camp here. 379 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,840 So I went to that, performed well. 380 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Wait a minute, wait a minute. 381 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,040 Slow down because I'm learning. 382 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,040 I'm learning. 383 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,040 This is like you. 384 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,040 I'm super curious. 385 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,040 So what does that mean in elite? 386 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,880 Is that during the summer, kids, high school kids go... 387 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,880 I got you. 388 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,880 For how long is that? 389 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,640 It was two different camp days. 390 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:16,040 So it was one day camp, you just come out, showcase your skills, do a number of drills, 391 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,040 do one-on-ones. 392 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:22,440 And then I did so good the first day, the coach pulled me inside and was asking where 393 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,440 was I from? 394 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,760 I'm like, I'm from Detroit. 395 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,000 My time is limited out here. 396 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,280 He asked me if I would come back the next day. 397 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,240 So I came back the next day, performed good again. 398 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,240 But while I was on camp... 399 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,240 Wait, are you a wide out? 400 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Yeah, I'm a wide receiver. 401 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Yeah. 402 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Yeah. 403 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,240 I can tell you're not an interior lineman. 404 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Yeah. 405 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,240 So how fast can you run? 406 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Pretty fast. 407 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,320 It's the same thing with talking about being funny. 408 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,320 I don't really like to talk about myself playing sports, but I feel like I'm above average. 409 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,320 You're above average. 410 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Did you run track and field? 411 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,320 I ran track and field for two years. 412 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,440 I started my junior year. 413 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,440 So you were a jock? 414 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Yeah. 415 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,440 I love it. 416 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,160 I got cut off the basketball team, so I had to find some way to get back. 417 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Can you touch the rim? 418 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,160 I can touch... 419 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Oh my God. 420 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,160 How tall are you? 421 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Five seven. 422 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,160 No. 423 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,280 You can dunk at five seven? 424 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Yeah, it's pretty crazy. 425 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,280 Still? 426 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Yeah. 427 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,280 I just did it yesterday. 428 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,280 How old were you when you first... 429 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Attempted? 430 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,280 You were not when you first dunked. 431 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,280 11th grade. 432 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,280 Okay. 433 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,280 All right. 434 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,280 So not that long ago. 435 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Yeah, no. 436 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Okay. 437 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,280 Were you surprised you were able to do it? 438 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,280 Yeah, because I never really attempted. 439 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,000 You can't palm the ball, right? 440 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,000 I can palm some balls. 441 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Oh, weird ones? 442 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Yeah. 443 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 I mean... 444 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Okay. 445 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,000 In contact. 446 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Yeah, I got you. 447 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 I got you. 448 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Hold on. 449 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 We're pausing. 450 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Maybe. 451 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Okay. 452 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,000 I'm really into this. 453 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,000 I'm really into this. 454 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Oh yeah. 455 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Within context, I can palm basketballs. 456 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 I got really strong hands. 457 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:56,000 I like to work out, but I just don't like to look stocky and buff because I'm short. 458 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,880 So it's like I'd be a stereotype at that point. 459 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,000 So junior year, I began to play football again. 460 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,680 I played when I was younger, but I ended up quitting because the coach was so terrible. 461 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Yeah. 462 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,680 I played... 463 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:13,680 I couldn't make... 464 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,000 I always say I'm not on the level you did, but I've been playing sports my whole life. 465 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,520 I played full court basketball to this day. 466 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Yeah. 467 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Yeah. 468 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,520 So... 469 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,520 But yeah, coaches can be insane. 470 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Yeah, and they were... 471 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Like really abusive dudes. 472 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,520 Just struck my confidence. 473 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,920 It took it away from me. 474 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,480 One year I was good, the next year I felt like I was shit. 475 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Yeah, yeah. 476 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,720 So it was like I stopped playing football. 477 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,360 I moved on to the basketball track just because I knew I could switch, so I started playing 478 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,360 basketball again. 479 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Right, right. 480 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,680 I get the high school... 481 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,880 Basketball is actually my gateway into the high school that I went to. 482 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,880 I probably would have never even touched. 483 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Private high school? 484 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,880 Yeah, I ended up going to a private high school. 485 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,880 Yeah, that's how they do it. 486 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:50,880 Is it Catholic? 487 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Yeah, it was. 488 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,880 Yes. 489 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:53,880 All boys. 490 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,880 What's it called? 491 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,880 UND Jesuit. 492 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Okay. 493 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,880 Yeah. 494 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Oh, that's Jesuit. 495 00:16:58,880 --> 00:16:59,880 Those are good schools. 496 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:00,880 Yeah. 497 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,880 That's a good academic school. 498 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,880 It was one of the best decisions I ever made. 499 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,880 I don't think I would be here right now. 500 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,880 No, probably not. 501 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,880 I'm talking to you. 502 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,880 I'm talking to Wayne Betterman. 503 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,880 I love it. 504 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,880 Yeah. 505 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,880 Oh my God. 506 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,880 To keep the... 507 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,720 So you had to play basketball for this school and track. 508 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Yeah. 509 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,080 What were your events in track? 510 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,920 In track, I did long jump, but I didn't start track until my 11th grade year after I got 511 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,960 cut from the basketball team. 512 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,360 So I started playing football my junior year before I got cut off the basketball team. 513 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:31,360 Right. 514 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:33,480 Because you know the basketball season is right after football season. 515 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:39,040 So I started playing football again, got cut from the basketball team, and went straight 516 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,040 back into football training. 517 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,200 Because I'm like, if I'm going to do anything, it'd probably be football. 518 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,160 Because in height, football really doesn't matter. 519 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,160 If you can ball, you can ball. 520 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,840 You know who I just did a show for the other day? 521 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,840 Who? 522 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,840 I don't know. 523 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,000 You might be too young. 524 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,320 Julian Edelman. 525 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Julian Edelman? 526 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Yeah. 527 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,120 Just met him last week, a week and a half ago. 528 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,120 That's crazy. 529 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,120 Yeah. 530 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,120 Really? 531 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:03,120 Yeah. 532 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:04,120 Yeah. 533 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:05,800 He had an amazing Super Bowl thing. 534 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,800 Yeah. 535 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Yeah. 536 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,800 I grew up watching Julian. 537 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Yeah. 538 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Well, he's an example of not a tall guy. 539 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,280 Super tall guy. 540 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,280 But he played slot receiver. 541 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,280 Yeah. 542 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,280 I played slot too. 543 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,280 You do? 544 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Yeah. 545 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,280 But I know how to do the wide out stuff. 546 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,280 You do? 547 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,280 I can play both. 548 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,280 Because of what? 549 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,280 Those wide out guys, they tend to be tall. 550 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Yeah. 551 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,280 They tend to be. 552 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,280 But that's not true. 553 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,280 They... 554 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Oh. 555 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,280 Okay. 556 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,280 I can't think of that. 557 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,280 They probably have... 558 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,280 Well... 559 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,280 No, no, no. 560 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,280 I guess, yeah. 561 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,280 So, you know what 7-0-7 is for football? 562 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Yeah, sure. 563 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,280 We're starting them... 564 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,280 All right. 565 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,280 So my uncle runs a 7-0-17. 566 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,280 Son of mine, son of body is... 567 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,280 It's pretty big throughout the country and everything. 568 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,280 And then D-Trait as well. 569 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,280 But one day I started playing with them. 570 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,280 Got really good over the off season. 571 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,280 What is your thing? 572 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Are you good running rounds? 573 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Are you good with hands? 574 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,280 All of it. 575 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,280 I'll show you my clips after we get done. 576 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,280 You can tell me what you think. 577 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,280 Love it. 578 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,280 I'm not good, but... 579 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,280 I had no idea. 580 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,280 That's super impressive to me. 581 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,280 Yeah. 582 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Because that was just like a class final in plays and doing ventriloquism. 583 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,280 Yeah. 584 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,280 Yeah. 585 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,280 All my friends were jocks. 586 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Yeah. 587 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Like I really... 588 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,280 I was very athletic until middle school when I grew. 589 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,280 Oh, you couldn't handle... 590 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,280 Yeah. 591 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,280 Yeah. 592 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,280 Some people just grow too fat. 593 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Yeah. 594 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:28,280 And this is the weird thing is like this is long, my torso, but my legs are short so I'm 595 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,280 not fat. 596 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,280 Like everything is bad. 597 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,280 You want long legs, short legs, the whole thing is like a mess. 598 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Yeah. 599 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,280 But I love playing sports. 600 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Love it. 601 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,280 Yeah, it's so fun and really neat. 602 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 603 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,280 So track season came around. 604 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,280 And I was... 605 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Growing up I was always scared to do track because my dad was like a super big track 606 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,280 star. 607 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,280 Oh, he was? 608 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,280 Yeah, for like whenever he was running and stuff. 609 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,280 So I'm like... 610 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Oh, so it's in the family? 611 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,280 Yeah. 612 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,280 With him it's not too many other athletes. 613 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,280 It's him. 614 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,280 But... 615 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,280 So 11th grade year I was like, let me just go out and try it. 616 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,280 And I ended up getting super good at it. 617 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:06,280 We won a state championship for the first time in about 20 something years. 618 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Almost 30 years. 619 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Right. 620 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,280 And just long jump? 621 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,280 I did long jump. 622 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,280 That was my contribution to the team. 623 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,280 But I was on the fastest team in the state though. 624 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Did you ever do relay? 625 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,280 No, they didn't need me. 626 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,280 So I just got to... 627 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,280 You know how track points work, right? 628 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 629 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,280 So I just used to pick up those points that have put us on the edge. 630 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 631 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,280 It's a team thing. 632 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Yeah, so I'll pick up the points and the long jump in. 633 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Did you get a trophy? 634 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Yeah, I got medals. 635 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,280 We got a trophy. 636 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,280 I got a few pictures in my phone. 637 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,280 But yeah, we won the state championship for the first time in 30 years. 638 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,280 And then... 639 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Like a legend. 640 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Yeah, and then we almost back to back... 641 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,280 We almost repeated. 642 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,280 What happened? 643 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,280 How heartbreaking is it? 644 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,280 This is sports. 645 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,280 Sports is the most devastating of all. 646 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,280 It's the worst. 647 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,280 If you can deal with it, it's great. 648 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,280 But if you can't... 649 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,280 You might be in the gutter forever. 650 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,280 It's a heartbreaker. 651 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,280 Yeah, it is. 652 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,280 It's literally the worst. 653 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,280 It's the worst. 654 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,280 It's the worst. 655 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,280 It's the worst. 656 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,280 It's the worst. 657 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,280 It's the worst. 658 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,280 It literally breaks your heart and your spirit. 659 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,280 It replays in your brain all the time. 660 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Have you ever seen anything? 661 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Of course. 662 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,280 And then you go back and say, I could have did this different because you start to see 663 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,280 all the... 664 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,280 Of course. 665 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,280 That's the worst. 666 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:13,480 So my junior year, when we were winning a lot, at the regional, my friend... 667 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,480 Actually, it's crazy. 668 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,500 You can watch Michigan State. 669 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:17,820 I don't know if you keep up with college football. 670 00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:18,820 Campus interviews, Spartans. 671 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:19,820 Yeah. 672 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:21,880 Did you see the catch recently made by the guy at Michigan State? 673 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,880 No, no. 674 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 I'll show it to you, but he was at the regionals or whatever. 675 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Uh-huh. 676 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,320 scratched every jump after his first jump. 677 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,720 He had a good first jump, but he scratched every jump after 678 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,220 until his last jump. 679 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:35,820 So I got first place. 680 00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:40,220 He ended up beating my teammate by like 0.5 inches, 681 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:41,020 like a centimeter. 682 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:42,320 It was crazy. 683 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,120 So the following year, I get out and I jump, 684 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,720 I want to say 21 feet, 21 something. 685 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,820 And I was two inches under qualifying for states, period. 686 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:55,220 You get 21, too, you can qualify. 687 00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:58,320 Other than that, you got to either be first or second place. 688 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,620 I'm in first the whole thing. 689 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:05,520 We get to the last jump, some random guy comes and jumps 690 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,820 further than me knows. 691 00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:09,020 So that took me out of states. 692 00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:11,720 Look, if you need to cry, you can't understand. 693 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,020 So that took me out of states. 694 00:22:13,020 --> 00:22:14,520 Process it, process it. 695 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Man, don't push it down. 696 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,520 It took so long. 697 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,520 It'll pop up otherwise. 698 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,920 It'll haunt you at night. 699 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Yeah, of course. 700 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,820 You'll be laying down and you'll be like, 701 00:22:24,820 --> 00:22:26,020 I could have jumped too much. 702 00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:26,520 No, I know. 703 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,020 I know. 704 00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:28,020 Yes, of course. 705 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:28,520 Of course. 706 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,620 Yeah, so my friend Nick Johnson, he runs track at Detroit Mercy. 707 00:22:32,620 --> 00:22:34,920 He was dealing with... 708 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,520 I watched eight to 10 Detroit Mercy basketball games last year. 709 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Well, you know why? 710 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,720 Because Antoine Davis was going to break the all-time record. 711 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Here's something you don't know about me. 712 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,020 I'm listening. 713 00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:54,120 I wrote the official biography of Pete Maravich, 714 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:55,720 the guy he was going to break the record of. 715 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,420 What? 716 00:22:56,420 --> 00:22:56,920 Yeah. 717 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,220 I'm friends with their family. 718 00:22:58,220 --> 00:22:59,320 Pete Maravich? 719 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,720 Yeah. 720 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,020 I wrote the book of Maravich. 721 00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:01,720 You can look it up. 722 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,520 I used to watch him to get my basketball moves. 723 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,320 He was crazy. 724 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,920 Yeah, that was one of the most insane... 725 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Yeah. 726 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,420 You know who that is? 727 00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:10,120 Yeah, I know Pete. 728 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,120 Yeah, Pistol Pete. 729 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:11,820 Crazy passes. 730 00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:12,520 Crazy passes. 731 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,120 Yeah, that's the guy. 732 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:14,720 So yeah. 733 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,820 When I was a kid, he was still playing. 734 00:23:16,820 --> 00:23:19,820 I watched him not live, but on TV and stuff. 735 00:23:19,820 --> 00:23:23,520 Yeah, so he was like just another basketball player, 736 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,820 like a fancy basketball player. 737 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:28,220 Yeah, so Nick was dealing with the injuries all season. 738 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:30,820 And then when we got there, our top runner, Jaden Reed, 739 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:32,820 he runs at Illinois State right now. 740 00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:33,620 Really? 741 00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:36,220 He got injured at the States. 742 00:23:36,220 --> 00:23:41,220 And I think we needed him to run one more race. 743 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,920 And he got hurt in a race before, which we didn't get the points for. 744 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,420 Hammy? 745 00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:45,020 What happened? 746 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:46,620 I think he pulled his hamstring. 747 00:23:46,620 --> 00:23:47,520 I just said Hammy. 748 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,820 Yeah. 749 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:49,620 So I predicted it. 750 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:50,620 Yeah, you did. 751 00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:51,620 It's usually Hammy. 752 00:23:51,620 --> 00:23:52,520 That's the usual one. 753 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,820 Yeah. 754 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:56,220 But yeah, so I was at home watching. 755 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:57,620 It's not that good of a guess. 756 00:23:57,620 --> 00:23:59,220 It was not that good of a guess. 757 00:23:59,220 --> 00:24:01,420 He was like. 758 00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:03,020 He tore his leg from his arm. 759 00:24:03,020 --> 00:24:04,020 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 760 00:24:04,020 --> 00:24:05,020 That was OK. 761 00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:06,220 I apologize. 762 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:07,020 Yeah, that's fine. 763 00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:07,520 It's funny. 764 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,420 That's funny. 765 00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:10,720 Yeah, it's usually Hammy. 766 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,020 But yeah, so we lost the points momentum. 767 00:24:13,020 --> 00:24:13,620 Oh, sorry. 768 00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:14,120 It was. 769 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,220 If you love the sport, again, I can't give you. 770 00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:22,220 I mean, there's sports psychologists now that 771 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:23,420 deal with all of that stuff. 772 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,020 I think those are like the most important. 773 00:24:25,020 --> 00:24:30,020 Because outside of comedians having poor mental health, 774 00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:32,020 I think sports psychologists are trying to be mad. 775 00:24:32,020 --> 00:24:34,020 They're very similar, because you have to perform 776 00:24:34,020 --> 00:24:36,420 under very intense circumstances. 777 00:24:36,420 --> 00:24:39,020 At the right time, within the right circumstances. 778 00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:41,220 Can't be the day before, can't be the day after. 779 00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:43,320 And with them both, you don't get a second chance. 780 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,220 I mean, once you, it'd be hard. 781 00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:46,220 It's harder to redeem. 782 00:24:46,220 --> 00:24:47,320 And everyone knows. 783 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,820 Yeah, and it's broadcasted everywhere. 784 00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:54,020 And then it's funnier when you fail, because it's broadcasted. 785 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:55,620 So they can just keep replaying. 786 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:58,420 And the fact that it's recorded and you can go look at it 787 00:24:58,420 --> 00:24:59,220 is even worse. 788 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:01,520 It's like something you just can't run from. 789 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,020 Right. 790 00:25:02,020 --> 00:25:03,020 Yeah. 791 00:25:03,020 --> 00:25:05,020 By the way, there's a lot of activity in this hall. 792 00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:05,720 Yeah, I don't know. 793 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,220 Marsha, what is the name of this building again? 794 00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:09,220 Fertitta Hall. 795 00:25:09,220 --> 00:25:09,820 Say it again. 796 00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:10,820 Fertitta Hall. 797 00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:11,520 Fertitta? 798 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,420 Yeah. 799 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:14,020 I don't know who Fertitta is. 800 00:25:14,020 --> 00:25:15,420 This hall is incredible, guys. 801 00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:16,420 I've never been in it. 802 00:25:16,420 --> 00:25:17,220 But it's this place. 803 00:25:17,220 --> 00:25:19,820 It's like dimly lit, professional. 804 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:20,220 Oh, yeah. 805 00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:23,620 No, this looks dense there. 806 00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:25,420 I need to get a camera to start recording. 807 00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:27,220 So it can be. 808 00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:28,120 Yeah, of course. 809 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,420 Well, that's very impressive. 810 00:25:29,420 --> 00:25:30,020 That's us. 811 00:25:30,020 --> 00:25:32,820 And that's really cool. 812 00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:34,120 I just went to the clubs. 813 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,320 Can I ask if this is a sidebar thing? 814 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,920 I'm holding a book. 815 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,020 No, no, it's not about you. 816 00:25:39,020 --> 00:25:39,420 Oh, OK. 817 00:25:39,420 --> 00:25:42,120 Would you ever, after class, would we walk over 818 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:43,820 and play a game of horse or something? 819 00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:45,020 Sure. 820 00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:46,820 You know the Lion Center? 821 00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:49,620 I've been thinking more in the outside, 822 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:50,820 because I don't have a pass. 823 00:25:50,820 --> 00:25:51,620 Oh, the pass? 824 00:25:51,620 --> 00:25:54,020 OK. 825 00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:55,720 On the tennis courts, they have basketball courts. 826 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,020 All right, I'll go over there. 827 00:25:57,020 --> 00:25:58,220 If you want to, I don't know. 828 00:25:58,220 --> 00:25:59,220 That's fine with me. 829 00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:01,220 Oh, actually, are you into golf? 830 00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:01,720 No. 831 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,720 You don't golf? 832 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,420 Do you know any golfers? 833 00:26:04,420 --> 00:26:05,520 Yeah, that's not my thing. 834 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,120 It's not? 835 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,920 I mean, I have friends that might like golf, 836 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,020 but I don't. 837 00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:11,420 As long as I can play real sports, 838 00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:13,820 I'm not going to play golf. 839 00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:15,920 I'm not going to play a thing where I'm driving around 840 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,820 and I'm holding a horse. 841 00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:17,620 That's not going to be. 842 00:26:17,620 --> 00:26:18,420 And a little goat curve. 843 00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:20,220 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 844 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:22,620 And I'm not saying those guys aren't amazing athletes. 845 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:25,620 They are, but I need to play. 846 00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:27,220 I need to play tennis or basketball. 847 00:26:27,220 --> 00:26:29,220 The competition level is right there in front of you. 848 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:30,620 You always have to be engaged. 849 00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:31,620 Yeah, yeah. 850 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:34,020 And also, I like the sweat. 851 00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:38,420 I like that I can still do it as a miracle. 852 00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:42,520 Because yeah, yeah, I couldn't even 853 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,820 make the JV high school basketball, 854 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:46,220 let alone the varsity. 855 00:26:46,220 --> 00:26:47,020 It's really bad. 856 00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:47,620 Really bad. 857 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:50,020 I mean, I could tell you about making the varsity. 858 00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:51,820 It's just bigger. 859 00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:52,820 Yeah. 860 00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:54,220 We had a really good team. 861 00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:55,620 We had a really good team. 862 00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:57,220 The way they cut me was so funny. 863 00:26:57,220 --> 00:26:57,820 Brutal? 864 00:26:57,820 --> 00:27:00,220 Yeah, no, it's like they bring you into a room like this, 865 00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:03,520 but it's really like a back room behind the bleachers 866 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,420 or whatever. 867 00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:06,820 And he goes, I made it to the second day of trial, 868 00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:08,020 so I was actually surprised. 869 00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:09,420 I didn't think I was going to make it. 870 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:11,420 I'll show you how realistic he had to get. 871 00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:15,020 So he goes, he goes, I mean. 872 00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:15,620 What? 873 00:27:15,620 --> 00:27:18,020 They bring you into the room, and there's like five of them. 874 00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:19,820 And they jump you with the bad news. 875 00:27:19,820 --> 00:27:22,620 They go, you know we don't want to do this, 876 00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:26,820 and we're going to have to let you go. 877 00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:30,820 So I told him I was going to go play football, 878 00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:32,620 and then I want to stay chip and track. 879 00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:34,620 So I contributed. 880 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:35,420 No, I know you did. 881 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:36,420 Look, you bounced back. 882 00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:37,620 You definitely bounced back. 883 00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:40,420 But it's so funny now that you're saying it, 884 00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:43,820 because in theater, and this is auditioning, and they're like, 885 00:27:43,820 --> 00:27:45,820 we're going to go another way. 886 00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:48,020 We see what you are, and we don't want you. 887 00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:48,820 You know what I mean? 888 00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:51,420 So there are similarities today. 889 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:55,820 So what's it like in the film world? 890 00:27:55,820 --> 00:27:58,620 I feel like it's like a whole different side of life. 891 00:27:58,620 --> 00:28:01,220 Well, I studied acting in college. 892 00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:03,420 That's what I did at NYU. 893 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:08,020 And then I tried to get as good as I could, 894 00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:10,120 whatever my limitations are. 895 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:13,020 And then it took a while, but you 896 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:14,820 have to kind of learn how to audition. 897 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:17,220 It's kind of the big thing. 898 00:28:17,220 --> 00:28:21,420 And then once I got that down, I started booking. 899 00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:24,420 And then I've been booking pretty consistently 900 00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:27,820 since I was like, I don't know, 26 or something. 901 00:28:27,820 --> 00:28:31,620 But 20 to 26 was like nothing. 902 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:34,020 Because from the outside looking in, 903 00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:39,820 I feel like it's really easy to cast imposter syndrome 904 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:40,820 in the acting world. 905 00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:43,820 So how do you find yourself as an actor? 906 00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:46,820 Because some people act, but it won't be genuine. 907 00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:48,020 It'll just be acting. 908 00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:49,220 Yeah, I don't know. 909 00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:51,220 That's a good question. 910 00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:53,620 All I know is whenever I'm acting, 911 00:28:53,620 --> 00:29:00,820 my number one goal is to be present, be in it. 912 00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:02,020 Just whatever is happening. 913 00:29:02,020 --> 00:29:04,620 Someone's yelling at a thing, she's crying at a thing. 914 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:07,620 It's usually comedy, so it's usually none of that. 915 00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:10,820 So know my lines, be in it. 916 00:29:10,820 --> 00:29:14,420 So I'm not thinking about am I doing good? 917 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:15,220 Am I doing bad? 918 00:29:15,220 --> 00:29:16,020 What did they? 919 00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:17,420 Should I do it this way? 920 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:19,220 I can't be thinking about any of that stuff. 921 00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:21,220 I think it's similar in sports. 922 00:29:21,220 --> 00:29:23,420 Like when you get in a zone, you know about that? 923 00:29:23,420 --> 00:29:24,220 The flow state? 924 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:24,820 Yes. 925 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:25,420 I learned. 926 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:26,220 The flow state. 927 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:28,820 I went so deep into that one summer. 928 00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:32,820 I was just, yeah, I just wanted to learn to be more present, 929 00:29:32,820 --> 00:29:36,020 because it's so easy to lose yourself in everything that's 930 00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:36,820 going on outside. 931 00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:40,620 And once that chatter gets to going, it's so hard to stop it. 932 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:45,020 So I really was doing studying on how to immerse yourself 933 00:29:45,020 --> 00:29:47,620 within whatever you were doing. 934 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:50,020 Now the flow state, that's a great way to put it. 935 00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:52,420 I mean, I had not heard that term until about five years 936 00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:52,620 ago. 937 00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:53,020 Really? 938 00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:53,420 Yeah. 939 00:29:53,420 --> 00:29:54,820 Well, we used to call it the zung one. 940 00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:55,420 Oh, yeah. 941 00:29:55,420 --> 00:29:56,420 We used to call it that. 942 00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:57,420 But it's the same idea. 943 00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:59,820 But it's the same in acting and in sports. 944 00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:03,020 It's like you can't have that chatter going. 945 00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:04,620 Because people can see it in your eyes. 946 00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:05,220 Yeah. 947 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:05,820 They can see it. 948 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:06,220 Yeah. 949 00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:07,020 They can see it. 950 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:08,220 They know. 951 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:09,820 And the camera is like right here. 952 00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:10,620 And then you're facing. 953 00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:10,820 Oh, man. 954 00:30:10,820 --> 00:30:11,620 How do you deal with that? 955 00:30:11,620 --> 00:30:13,420 The lights, the camera, the people around, 956 00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:14,620 you just got to get into it. 957 00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:16,220 I got to be in it. 958 00:30:16,220 --> 00:30:17,820 I got to be, I can't. 959 00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:18,220 Yeah. 960 00:30:18,220 --> 00:30:18,820 It's hard. 961 00:30:18,820 --> 00:30:22,020 So is there any times you ever just couldn't get into it? 962 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:22,620 Yes. 963 00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:24,420 Like, what was that like? 964 00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:26,020 It's a nightmare. 965 00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:26,620 It's a nightmare. 966 00:30:26,620 --> 00:30:27,620 Everyone's waiting. 967 00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:28,620 And you're sweating. 968 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:31,820 And you feel like you're, like you said, an imposter. 969 00:30:31,820 --> 00:30:33,820 You feel like it's terrible. 970 00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:35,420 It's happened a few times. 971 00:30:35,420 --> 00:30:37,020 I would say less than five. 972 00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:40,220 But it's definitely happened. 973 00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:43,220 And usually the best thing is if you have a director who's 974 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:45,620 running and it kind of recognized and let's you kind 975 00:30:45,620 --> 00:30:50,020 of like spin out and then kind of get back. 976 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:54,220 So I just feel like it'd be impossible to learn lines. 977 00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:57,820 How do you memorize lines? 978 00:30:57,820 --> 00:31:00,220 How do you memorize lyrics to a song? 979 00:31:00,220 --> 00:31:02,020 Oh, you just keep repeating them over and over. 980 00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:05,020 Do you have anybody read them to you so you can? 981 00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:05,820 I try not. 982 00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:10,420 I mean, sometimes I hire a guy to just run the lines with me 983 00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:11,620 if I have a big audition. 984 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:12,220 Yeah. 985 00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:13,220 So I will do that. 986 00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:17,620 But for the most part, I have them written down. 987 00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:18,820 And then I write them down. 988 00:31:18,820 --> 00:31:26,420 And then what I try to do is I try to do different things 989 00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:28,220 physically while I'm doing the lines. 990 00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:29,620 Oh, yeah. 991 00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:31,720 So you got like cues so you know what to say. 992 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,820 No, the opposite. 993 00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:35,420 I want the lines to be no matter what I'm doing. 994 00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:36,220 That they... 995 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:38,220 Yeah, that the lines are locked in. 996 00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:39,620 So I could be writing. 997 00:31:39,620 --> 00:31:40,620 I could be a thing. 998 00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:41,820 I'd be shooting baskets. 999 00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:45,220 I could be shooting, you know, playing piano or something 1000 00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:46,020 like that. 1001 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:50,620 So it's not locked into a specific thing. 1002 00:31:50,620 --> 00:31:54,820 And then when I get to start rehearsing, then I can root it 1003 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:56,620 to some sort of physical action. 1004 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:57,020 Wow. 1005 00:31:57,020 --> 00:32:00,420 So it really seemed like the actor world and the sports world 1006 00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:03,020 were closely related. 1007 00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:03,220 Of course. 1008 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:07,820 I mean, I would never think because I haven't been on the other side. 1009 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:10,620 In a way, they're both entertainment. 1010 00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:13,020 I'm talking about professional sports. 1011 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:14,420 It's entertainment. 1012 00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:16,620 Like you're on ESPN. 1013 00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:18,020 Somebody else is on TNT. 1014 00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:18,420 Yeah. 1015 00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:19,620 And Step Brothers. 1016 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:21,620 Like it's like it's click. 1017 00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:23,020 I'm going to watch this. 1018 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:23,620 I'm going to watch this. 1019 00:32:23,620 --> 00:32:26,220 The thing that I love about... 1020 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:28,020 And again, you know, I'm a sports nut. 1021 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:31,620 Yeah. 1022 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:35,220 Unlike drama, a lot of times you can kind of see where it's going. 1023 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:40,020 You're like, oh, I bet Spider-Man wins this fight at the end of the movie. 1024 00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:41,220 I guess sports, you don't know. 1025 00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:41,820 Yeah. 1026 00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:43,020 You don't know what's going to happen. 1027 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:46,620 Sometimes, I mean, nowadays you could pretty much guess. 1028 00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:46,820 Why? 1029 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:49,420 Did you think Denver was definitely going to win last year? 1030 00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:50,020 No. 1031 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:50,420 Yeah. 1032 00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:52,020 So. 1033 00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:54,620 Sometimes it just seems so predictable though. 1034 00:32:54,620 --> 00:32:59,620 And the way that things fall out because you ever heard they started scripting the sport? 1035 00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:01,820 How do you feel about scripting games? 1036 00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:02,620 Have you heard of that? 1037 00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:03,620 I don't even know what it is. 1038 00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:04,620 Teach me. 1039 00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:10,220 So now it's like basically like a thing where it's like they feel like all the sports are like scripted. 1040 00:33:10,220 --> 00:33:13,420 So you can like tell who's going to win because I don't know. 1041 00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:15,020 Sounds like some crazy conspiracy theory. 1042 00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:18,820 It's a deep rabbit hole, but it actually kind of check out sometimes. 1043 00:33:18,820 --> 00:33:19,620 Give me an example. 1044 00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:20,820 Give me an example. 1045 00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:22,220 Even like the... 1046 00:33:22,220 --> 00:33:25,420 Like they want the Lakers to win because it's a big market. 1047 00:33:25,420 --> 00:33:26,220 That kind of thing. 1048 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:26,620 Yeah. 1049 00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:29,020 And then it was like the Super Bowl last year. 1050 00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:35,220 I'm I might have had a fact, so I screwed up, but it was like Andy Reid used to coach for the Eagles. 1051 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:35,620 Right. 1052 00:33:35,620 --> 00:33:36,220 Or whatever. 1053 00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:45,020 And it was like this crazy coincidence where he's coaching against the team that he used to coach for in one of the biggest Super Bowls that there is. 1054 00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:48,620 And it's they come back from losing the first half to. 1055 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:49,220 Oh, I see. 1056 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:50,220 You know what I mean? 1057 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:51,620 You're saying they make good television? 1058 00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:52,220 Yeah. 1059 00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:53,820 I don't know. 1060 00:33:53,820 --> 00:33:54,820 I will look into it. 1061 00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:57,420 Sounds like some weird deep state thing. 1062 00:33:57,420 --> 00:33:58,420 I will look into it. 1063 00:33:58,420 --> 00:33:59,220 I will look into it. 1064 00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:00,620 It's pretty interesting once you like... 1065 00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:01,420 No, of course. 1066 00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:03,020 It's like falling down into it. 1067 00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:07,220 But now have you ever lost yourself in a character? 1068 00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:08,620 Like you had to become this character. 1069 00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:09,420 No, not really. 1070 00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:09,820 No? 1071 00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:12,220 Have you known anybody that has? 1072 00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:12,820 Yeah. 1073 00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:13,220 Yeah. 1074 00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:18,820 Well, there's I'm not super close friends with them, but there's an actor named Jim Carrey. 1075 00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:19,420 Yeah. 1076 00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:24,020 And he played a comedian named Andy Kaufman in this movie. 1077 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:25,420 Call what? 1078 00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:26,620 Man on the Moon. 1079 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:28,220 Man in the Moon, Man on the Moon. 1080 00:34:28,220 --> 00:34:29,220 One of those. 1081 00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:34,620 And Andy Kaufman is a kind of an alternative comedian. 1082 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:40,620 And he you had to call him Andy during the whole time. 1083 00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:41,020 Yeah. 1084 00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:45,820 Like when he was eating and it was weird. 1085 00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:51,620 It was how do you think people who played a Joker like pan out after playing Joker? 1086 00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:53,220 Because the one guy died. 1087 00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:58,020 So not good. 1088 00:34:58,020 --> 00:34:58,620 Yeah. 1089 00:34:58,620 --> 00:34:59,820 So not too great. 1090 00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:00,420 Yeah. 1091 00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:02,420 I don't know. 1092 00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:05,220 You know, those yeah, those super evil. 1093 00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:05,820 Yeah. 1094 00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:06,420 I don't know. 1095 00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:07,220 Those characters are... 1096 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:11,020 You just have to go deep down and like access something. 1097 00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:12,020 Yeah. 1098 00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:20,220 But like another thing is, you know, some people would be like people are outside of just assume every actor that they see is rich. 1099 00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:20,820 Uh-huh. 1100 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:23,620 So how did what was the truth behind that? 1101 00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:25,220 Like how does that work? 1102 00:35:25,220 --> 00:35:28,820 It all depends on what you're doing. 1103 00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:37,620 I was like I've been doing like kind of guest star and, you know, support like little scenes in movies and stuff for a long time. 1104 00:35:37,620 --> 00:35:41,820 And I don't know. 1105 00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:46,620 I don't like to think of my career like money based. 1106 00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:47,820 You're having fun with it. 1107 00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:48,220 Yeah. 1108 00:35:48,220 --> 00:35:50,220 I feel like this is the life I want to lead. 1109 00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:51,020 Yeah. 1110 00:35:51,020 --> 00:35:53,020 So sometimes you make a lot of money. 1111 00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:54,620 So there's no doubt about it. 1112 00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:58,020 You make a lot of money and and sometimes you don't. 1113 00:35:58,020 --> 00:35:58,420 Yeah. 1114 00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:01,820 So it's like it's I wouldn't say I'm super. 1115 00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:04,020 It's not like I live in Bel Air or something like that. 1116 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:06,020 But I do fine. 1117 00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:10,220 You know, and I do this teaching job is I don't do this for money. 1118 00:36:10,220 --> 00:36:13,220 I do this because I love you know, I'm passionate about stand up. 1119 00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:18,220 So how did you even how do you notice much because when you're in class, it seems like it just rolls off the tongue. 1120 00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:19,220 You just know it off the top. 1121 00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,220 You like it. 1122 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:21,220 I'm like a genius. 1123 00:36:21,220 --> 00:36:25,820 Yeah, like the sources at the source of. 1124 00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:28,020 I'm very here's it. 1125 00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:36,120 Here's where it started when I was in high school when you were getting cut from your basketball. 1126 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,220 Just to bring it back to you. 1127 00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:38,420 Yeah. 1128 00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:41,820 I was really into again, I was doing ventriloquism. 1129 00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:43,020 I knew about Edgar Bergen. 1130 00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:48,320 That's how I learned about all these old radio comedians and when the guy we're talking about today, 1131 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,020 Eddie Cantor, you know, Burns and Allen and Benny and stuff. 1132 00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:57,020 So I was like a comedy geek even then in the 70s. 1133 00:36:57,020 --> 00:37:00,020 So and so that's when it started. 1134 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:02,420 I was just I just fascinated by these guys. 1135 00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:03,420 Who are they? 1136 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:04,020 Why? 1137 00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:04,820 Where they come from? 1138 00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:06,020 How do they do what they do? 1139 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:10,620 Yeah, and then I was like, could I do it? 1140 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:11,220 Right. 1141 00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:12,220 Could I do this? 1142 00:37:12,220 --> 00:37:13,820 It seemed so ridiculous. 1143 00:37:13,820 --> 00:37:14,420 Yeah. 1144 00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:16,420 And then I was like, I'm going to give it a try. 1145 00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:17,620 I said, I'm going to give it a try. 1146 00:37:17,620 --> 00:37:19,820 It's kind of like Mark Twain was. 1147 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:22,020 You see, I've been listening. 1148 00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:28,820 But have you ever really studied like the geography of like where comedians come from? 1149 00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:30,620 So like, I do know this. 1150 00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:34,020 I do know that a lot of comedians, not all. 1151 00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:35,820 Definitely not all. 1152 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:36,820 Like Simon found us. 1153 00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:41,020 But a lot of comedians tend to be have older brothers and sisters. 1154 00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:42,220 So they use. 1155 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:46,020 So they, well, one, they don't get as much attention. 1156 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:48,620 So they're like a little more star for attention. 1157 00:37:48,620 --> 00:37:50,820 The parents are like, we can't. 1158 00:37:50,820 --> 00:37:51,820 We don't have time. 1159 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:59,820 And two, verbally, because it's a verbal job, your verbal skills are higher at a younger 1160 00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:03,420 age because you have to communicate with your older brothers and sisters. 1161 00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:04,420 You want to be part of it. 1162 00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:08,820 You want to be a play monopoly or whatever you're doing. 1163 00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:17,420 So that tends to be a thing that like the younger person in a family tends to like be 1164 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:22,420 funny to get the attention and be verbal, which is the whole thing. 1165 00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:23,420 Yeah. 1166 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:30,620 So I think it's easier for people to become funny from scratch or become funny rooted 1167 00:38:30,620 --> 00:38:31,620 from trauma. 1168 00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:35,820 Because, you know, a lot of people, they make fun of their own trauma and it'll get less 1169 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:41,220 and from there to branch it out. 1170 00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:43,220 I mean, there's no real answer. 1171 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:44,420 I do. 1172 00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:45,420 That's a great question. 1173 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:47,420 Let me think about it. 1174 00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:49,820 Let me think. 1175 00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:52,220 I think some people are just naturally funny. 1176 00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:53,540 They just see the world. 1177 00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:56,700 The way I describe it is like a lens on a camera. 1178 00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:01,780 They just see it with a little different angle than everyone else does. 1179 00:39:01,780 --> 00:39:05,140 They see this and they're like, oh, I'm going to focus in on that part. 1180 00:39:05,140 --> 00:39:11,860 So some people just have that thing and can just see the irony or like the wittiness or 1181 00:39:11,860 --> 00:39:14,620 the stupidity of it or whatever. 1182 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:18,300 They're upset about it or they're just, yeah. 1183 00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:21,020 Or they draw connections from two different things. 1184 00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:26,020 They see this and they're like, how does that go together? 1185 00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:27,020 So it's really fun. 1186 00:39:27,020 --> 00:39:30,900 So there's those people and then there's other people who are like, you know, whatever. 1187 00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:34,860 There's no better example than Richard Pryor. 1188 00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:38,340 What happened in his childhood. 1189 00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:39,780 No one can compare to that. 1190 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:44,220 Not no one, but the mom, the thing, the prostitution. 1191 00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:50,300 Like when you were a kid to see your parents or your mom having sex. 1192 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:51,300 What's going on? 1193 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:56,980 Like just how you would view the world or humanity. 1194 00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:58,980 But he did, I mean, he did go to school. 1195 00:39:58,980 --> 00:40:00,980 He went to a good school. 1196 00:40:00,980 --> 00:40:01,980 Where did he go? 1197 00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:02,980 Yeah, in Peoria. 1198 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:04,980 He didn't go to college, but he did. 1199 00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:11,060 No, but he went to, not only you, he didn't get to USC, but he did go to high school and 1200 00:40:11,060 --> 00:40:18,860 then I think he went into the military for briefly and then wanted to do a standup career. 1201 00:40:18,860 --> 00:40:24,220 So yeah, so that kind of trauma, I feel like he was medicating that his whole life. 1202 00:40:24,220 --> 00:40:30,380 That's my stupid opinion about it, but you know, he was just a massive drug user. 1203 00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:31,380 I did not know that. 1204 00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:34,380 I got a lot to learn. 1205 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:35,380 I'm in the classroom. 1206 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:37,260 I'm sorry to laugh at that. 1207 00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:45,100 Just because I thought you had seen that whole movie about where the, him with the mafia 1208 00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,100 guys. 1209 00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:47,620 No, I didn't see the whole movie. 1210 00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:51,660 I just know the clip that my granddad showed it to me. 1211 00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:53,540 What's the movie called? 1212 00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:57,260 That one is called Live on the Sunset Strip, but there's another one that we're really 1213 00:40:57,260 --> 00:41:00,620 going to talk about called Live in Concert. 1214 00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:05,580 And those two movies are incredible. 1215 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:08,380 Here's a couple of things you should know about Richard Pryor. 1216 00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:16,260 At one point he was set himself on fire, either to kill himself or just a crazy free base. 1217 00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:19,540 I don't know if you know what free base scene is. 1218 00:41:19,540 --> 00:41:22,620 It's like, it was a way people did cocaine. 1219 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:26,220 I've never done it, but you light it on fire and throw a pipe. 1220 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:27,220 I don't know. 1221 00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:29,260 So anyways, there's a fire involved. 1222 00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:34,020 And so it blew up and he almost died from that. 1223 00:41:34,020 --> 00:41:36,700 Like he had like third degree burns all over his body. 1224 00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:37,700 Yeah. 1225 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:40,180 It was really brutal, very brutal. 1226 00:41:40,180 --> 00:41:45,380 And then, you know, multiple wives and you know, there's this, you'll see. 1227 00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:46,380 Right. 1228 00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:48,580 But then he come out as gay. 1229 00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:49,580 Yeah. 1230 00:41:49,580 --> 00:41:50,580 This is the thing. 1231 00:41:50,580 --> 00:41:55,900 He didn't come out as gay, but he did say that he sucked a guy off without getting too 1232 00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:56,900 graphic. 1233 00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:57,900 Yeah. 1234 00:41:57,900 --> 00:41:58,900 Yeah. 1235 00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,340 So I guess because of the sexuality around him, I was like, I'll do that. 1236 00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:04,820 So when did gay comedians come about? 1237 00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:08,740 Like openly, because I know for, it had to be a standard time where people were like 1238 00:42:08,740 --> 00:42:09,740 super homo. 1239 00:42:09,740 --> 00:42:10,740 Yeah. 1240 00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:11,740 Well, you know, moms may believe he was gay. 1241 00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:12,740 Yeah. 1242 00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:13,740 I did not know that. 1243 00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:14,740 Yeah. 1244 00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:15,740 But I was like, you know, you're on stage. 1245 00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:17,460 You play the old woman who liked young guys. 1246 00:42:17,460 --> 00:42:18,460 Yeah. 1247 00:42:18,460 --> 00:42:19,460 That was her thing. 1248 00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:20,460 Yeah. 1249 00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:24,140 So I think, you know, that's a good question. 1250 00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:26,100 Like who was the first openly? 1251 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,100 Yeah. 1252 00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:30,780 It might be like Ellen DeGeneres was one of the, there was another guy. 1253 00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:31,780 I can't think of his name. 1254 00:42:31,780 --> 00:42:32,780 I read about him in the book. 1255 00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:39,500 He was on The Tonight Show in this, I believe in the 90s. 1256 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:41,900 He was openly gay and he came out. 1257 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:45,540 But now it's like, it's not big, now it's still a big deal. 1258 00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:46,540 Yeah. 1259 00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:47,540 It's still a big deal. 1260 00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:50,660 You know, your generation is very cool about that guy. 1261 00:42:50,660 --> 00:42:51,660 Yeah. 1262 00:42:51,660 --> 00:42:52,660 Where we're like, stay away from the... 1263 00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:53,660 Yeah. 1264 00:42:53,660 --> 00:42:54,660 No, it's cool. 1265 00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:55,660 I mean, I love it. 1266 00:42:55,660 --> 00:43:04,660 I love that, you know, people were just so open about it. 1267 00:43:04,660 --> 00:43:05,660 Yeah. 1268 00:43:05,660 --> 00:43:06,660 But, yeah. 1269 00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:07,660 I'm saying Bob Smith. 1270 00:43:07,660 --> 00:43:08,660 Yeah, Bob Smith. 1271 00:43:08,660 --> 00:43:09,660 Yeah, very good. 1272 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:16,060 I think it was in 94 he did that tonight, Joe said. 1273 00:43:16,060 --> 00:43:17,060 So... 1274 00:43:17,060 --> 00:43:19,060 Yeah, that's when he came out. 1275 00:43:19,060 --> 00:43:20,060 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1276 00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:21,060 So that's pretty late. 1277 00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:22,060 Yeah. 1278 00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:23,060 I mean... 1279 00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:24,060 That's a long time. 1280 00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:25,060 That's a long time. 1281 00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:26,060 It was just not... 1282 00:43:26,060 --> 00:43:29,060 There was no openly gay... 1283 00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:30,060 Yeah. 1284 00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:31,060 That I knew of. 1285 00:43:31,060 --> 00:43:32,060 Yeah. 1286 00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:33,060 That I knew of. 1287 00:43:33,060 --> 00:43:39,420 I also think about when people start coming out as openly gay in the sports world, connecting 1288 00:43:39,420 --> 00:43:40,420 with the... 1289 00:43:40,420 --> 00:43:44,140 There's still nobody in the NFL that's not one guy, right? 1290 00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:45,140 That we know of. 1291 00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:46,140 No, but... 1292 00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:47,140 Well, there was... 1293 00:43:47,140 --> 00:43:48,140 I don't know if you know that. 1294 00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:49,140 I grew up... 1295 00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:50,140 Before I lived in Florida, I lived in D.C. 1296 00:43:50,140 --> 00:43:51,140 Okay. 1297 00:43:51,140 --> 00:43:52,140 So I followed the Redskins. 1298 00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:53,140 They don't even call them that anymore. 1299 00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:54,140 Because it was Tuesday. 1300 00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:55,140 Yeah. 1301 00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:56,140 Stay away from the... 1302 00:43:56,140 --> 00:43:57,140 I know, I know. 1303 00:43:57,140 --> 00:44:00,540 But there was a... 1304 00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:02,540 We had a tight end named Jerry Smith. 1305 00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:03,540 Okay. 1306 00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:05,460 Who later came out as gay. 1307 00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:06,460 After they all came out... 1308 00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:07,460 After they all came out after... 1309 00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:08,460 After they all came out after... 1310 00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:09,460 After they all came out after... 1311 00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:10,460 That locker room is just... 1312 00:44:10,460 --> 00:44:11,460 You've been in football locker room. 1313 00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:12,460 Yeah. 1314 00:44:12,460 --> 00:44:13,460 That is very masculine. 1315 00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:14,460 Yeah. 1316 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:15,460 Energy. 1317 00:44:15,460 --> 00:44:16,460 That's very masculine. 1318 00:44:16,460 --> 00:44:17,460 And I played tackle football. 1319 00:44:17,460 --> 00:44:18,460 Yeah. 1320 00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:23,140 Not at high school level, but it's like... 1321 00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:25,140 So everyone, I think... 1322 00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:26,140 Yeah. 1323 00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:27,140 I mean, there's going to be somebody. 1324 00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:28,140 It's got to be someone's goal. 1325 00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:29,140 It's got to be. 1326 00:44:29,140 --> 00:44:31,260 And there's been rumors of that for years. 1327 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:32,260 I just think... 1328 00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:33,260 This is my opinion. 1329 00:44:33,260 --> 00:44:34,260 Yeah. 1330 00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:37,820 It's not like the guys are ashamed that they're gay. 1331 00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:42,300 If you're an offensive tackle or something like that. 1332 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:45,940 I don't think they want to be a distraction because it's a team. 1333 00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:46,940 To the league. 1334 00:44:46,940 --> 00:44:47,940 Yeah. 1335 00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:48,940 No, to the team. 1336 00:44:48,940 --> 00:44:49,940 To the team as a whole. 1337 00:44:49,940 --> 00:44:50,940 To the team. 1338 00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:51,940 Oh, because maybe somebody got some... 1339 00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:52,940 Whatever. 1340 00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:53,940 Yeah. 1341 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:54,940 The team is a team. 1342 00:44:54,940 --> 00:44:55,940 Yeah. 1343 00:44:55,940 --> 00:44:56,940 You play team sports. 1344 00:44:56,940 --> 00:44:58,940 That's a big part of that bond thing. 1345 00:44:58,940 --> 00:45:00,780 I don't want to hang out like that. 1346 00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:01,780 That's my theory. 1347 00:45:01,780 --> 00:45:02,780 Yeah. 1348 00:45:02,780 --> 00:45:03,780 That's my theory. 1349 00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:04,780 Actually, I couldn't... 1350 00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:05,780 Are you coming out right now? 1351 00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:06,780 Is this what's happening? 1352 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:07,780 No, there's no... 1353 00:45:07,780 --> 00:45:08,780 I'm just gonna stand here. 1354 00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:09,780 We're gonna sit down. 1355 00:45:09,780 --> 00:45:10,780 Yeah. 1356 00:45:10,780 --> 00:45:11,780 I'm just gonna stand here. 1357 00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:12,780 Oh, man. 1358 00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:13,780 Totally cool. 1359 00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:14,780 Totally cool. 1360 00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:15,780 He's gonna stand here. 1361 00:45:15,780 --> 00:45:17,860 Just hold on a second. 1362 00:45:17,860 --> 00:45:23,660 Jerry Smith was his name and I remember later there was articles about him and... 1363 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:24,660 Yeah. 1364 00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:25,660 Yeah. 1365 00:45:25,660 --> 00:45:26,660 And I think his teammates knew. 1366 00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:27,660 I think some of the teammates knew. 1367 00:45:27,660 --> 00:45:28,660 Yeah. 1368 00:45:28,660 --> 00:45:29,900 So, they just... 1369 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:30,900 That's my guess. 1370 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:31,900 Yeah. 1371 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:32,900 That's a pretty good guess. 1372 00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:34,940 Because it just makes no sense. 1373 00:45:34,940 --> 00:45:35,940 Yeah. 1374 00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:37,940 I mean, yeah. 1375 00:45:37,940 --> 00:45:40,420 So, that's it. 1376 00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:41,700 So, I follow sports. 1377 00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:48,980 I try to play sports as much as I can and do stand up and act and now write and teach. 1378 00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:49,980 Living the dream. 1379 00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:50,980 Living the... 1380 00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:51,980 Living your dream. 1381 00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:52,980 I do live a dream. 1382 00:45:52,980 --> 00:45:53,980 I do. 1383 00:45:53,980 --> 00:45:59,380 You know, that is one thing I think that has helped me through all the disappointments. 1384 00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:00,380 Yeah. 1385 00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:03,860 There's many roles I wanted to get that I didn't get and parts and things and all of 1386 00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:04,860 that. 1387 00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:08,900 But I've always tried to be grateful for whatever comes my way. 1388 00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:09,900 Yeah. 1389 00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:13,220 As opposed to focusing on what I didn't get like, what do I have? 1390 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:14,220 Yeah. 1391 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:15,220 Oh, this is pretty good. 1392 00:46:15,220 --> 00:46:16,220 Yeah. 1393 00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:17,220 I'm living in California. 1394 00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:18,220 That's the thing. 1395 00:46:18,220 --> 00:46:19,220 I get the house now. 1396 00:46:19,220 --> 00:46:20,220 So, that's the way that would... 1397 00:46:20,220 --> 00:46:21,220 If there's... 1398 00:46:21,220 --> 00:46:22,220 I hate giving advice. 1399 00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:23,220 Why? 1400 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:29,300 Because I think people love giving advice and I think advice doesn't apply to some people 1401 00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:30,860 just because it applies to you. 1402 00:46:30,860 --> 00:46:31,860 Right. 1403 00:46:31,860 --> 00:46:36,780 So, instead of giving advice, I wish people would more say, this is what worked for me. 1404 00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:38,100 It might work for you. 1405 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:39,100 Yeah. 1406 00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:40,700 As opposed to this is how you have to do it. 1407 00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:41,700 And they sell it. 1408 00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:42,700 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1409 00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:45,700 And it's like, oh, now I have to listen to you? 1410 00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:48,020 It becomes marketing and then you begin to... 1411 00:46:48,020 --> 00:46:50,580 You begin to just start to fall into that eight foot... 1412 00:46:50,580 --> 00:46:52,580 You feel like you got to fall into that eight foot steps. 1413 00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:53,580 Yeah, whatever. 1414 00:46:53,580 --> 00:46:54,580 And I like it. 1415 00:46:54,580 --> 00:46:55,580 I want to... 1416 00:46:55,580 --> 00:46:57,580 All the time I'm reading books on how to improve myself. 1417 00:46:57,580 --> 00:46:58,580 Yeah. 1418 00:46:58,580 --> 00:46:59,580 I love those books. 1419 00:46:59,580 --> 00:47:00,580 You do? 1420 00:47:00,580 --> 00:47:01,580 Yeah, I love them. 1421 00:47:01,580 --> 00:47:02,580 And what I'm reading right now is... 1422 00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:03,580 I got it in my book bag. 1423 00:47:03,580 --> 00:47:04,580 Let me see. 1424 00:47:04,580 --> 00:47:05,580 It's called a book called Outlier. 1425 00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:06,580 You can look at it. 1426 00:47:06,580 --> 00:47:07,580 Oh. 1427 00:47:07,580 --> 00:47:08,580 But it's like... 1428 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:09,580 What do you mean? 1429 00:47:09,580 --> 00:47:10,580 Of course, it's a classic. 1430 00:47:10,580 --> 00:47:11,580 This is it. 1431 00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:12,580 This is a 10,000 hour one. 1432 00:47:12,580 --> 00:47:13,580 Yeah, it's so good. 1433 00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:14,580 Yeah. 1434 00:47:14,580 --> 00:47:17,580 And it's really good because I read a book contradicting the... 1435 00:47:17,580 --> 00:47:18,580 How did you come across this? 1436 00:47:18,580 --> 00:47:19,580 How did you come across this? 1437 00:47:19,580 --> 00:47:20,580 I want to say my... 1438 00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:24,580 I think my dad told me about that one, but... 1439 00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:25,580 Right. 1440 00:47:25,580 --> 00:47:29,580 During quarantine, like during COVID, when we were stuck in the house, I got on this 1441 00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:32,820 super big binge about just self-improvement. 1442 00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:33,820 And I wanted to... 1443 00:47:33,820 --> 00:47:36,580 I didn't know who I wanted to become, but I know I wanted to do something. 1444 00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:37,580 Right. 1445 00:47:37,580 --> 00:47:38,580 I love it. 1446 00:47:38,580 --> 00:47:40,580 I'm to the say I do self-improvement. 1447 00:47:40,580 --> 00:47:44,820 If I want to get to where I want to be at, I got to start somewhere. 1448 00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:46,980 You know, waking up late for... 1449 00:47:46,980 --> 00:47:50,620 Even if class is online, you still got to be able to do something before class start. 1450 00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:53,220 Don't let that be the excuse you use to... 1451 00:47:53,220 --> 00:47:54,220 You're giving me a place. 1452 00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:55,220 I love it. 1453 00:47:55,220 --> 00:47:56,220 No, this is a word for me. 1454 00:47:56,220 --> 00:47:57,220 This is what? 1455 00:47:57,220 --> 00:47:58,220 Yeah, yeah. 1456 00:47:58,220 --> 00:47:59,220 It made me a word for you. 1457 00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:00,220 It might make me a word for you. 1458 00:48:00,220 --> 00:48:01,220 But I started doing... 1459 00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:02,220 I don't know. 1460 00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:03,220 I just started putting things into practice. 1461 00:48:03,220 --> 00:48:04,220 So what did I do? 1462 00:48:04,220 --> 00:48:05,220 I started watching like, you know, Kobe Bryant. 1463 00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:06,220 Everybody knows Kobe Bryant. 1464 00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:07,220 Kobe is the best. 1465 00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:08,220 I know, right? 1466 00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:09,220 He's the best. 1467 00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:18,940 I just was watching a clip of his that was so inspiring, talking about the journey and 1468 00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:20,940 winning a championship or losing. 1469 00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,220 And it was like two days later, I had to start the thing all over again. 1470 00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:25,220 It doesn't matter. 1471 00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:27,220 Yeah, I could hear him talk for hours, but... 1472 00:48:27,220 --> 00:48:29,340 Yeah, he was really... 1473 00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:32,820 I mean, I know he was sometimes a terrible teammate to some of those guys. 1474 00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:38,060 That's because the D level of passion that he had inside of him. 1475 00:48:38,060 --> 00:48:39,540 But he was really something else. 1476 00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:40,540 Yeah. 1477 00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:41,540 He was really something else. 1478 00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:42,540 Yeah. 1479 00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:44,540 That's a lot of activity happening here in the Marshall. 1480 00:48:44,540 --> 00:48:45,540 Yeah. 1481 00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:48,540 Fettuccine or whatever, whatever we're at. 1482 00:48:48,540 --> 00:48:51,380 Yeah, no, he's a great... 1483 00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:53,780 That big book of his, do you know the one? 1484 00:48:53,780 --> 00:48:54,780 The big one? 1485 00:48:54,780 --> 00:48:55,780 The mama mentality. 1486 00:48:55,780 --> 00:48:57,780 Is that what it's called? 1487 00:48:57,780 --> 00:49:00,100 Yeah, it's like it's a big... 1488 00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:01,100 It's really good. 1489 00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:02,100 Yeah. 1490 00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:03,100 It's really... 1491 00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:06,740 I think he really thought about it quite a bit. 1492 00:49:06,740 --> 00:49:13,580 And all of those guys that would come... 1493 00:49:13,580 --> 00:49:16,580 The older players are always like, we're going out to the club. 1494 00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:17,580 I'm going to shoot around. 1495 00:49:17,580 --> 00:49:18,580 Yeah, stuff like that. 1496 00:49:18,580 --> 00:49:19,580 They're like, who is this kid? 1497 00:49:19,580 --> 00:49:20,580 Guess what? 1498 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:23,580 He's one of the greatest of all time. 1499 00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:24,580 Yeah. 1500 00:49:24,580 --> 00:49:25,580 Guess what? 1501 00:49:25,580 --> 00:49:26,580 He's a great guy. 1502 00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:29,380 So yeah, during quarantine, I'm like, all right, I got to start doing something. 1503 00:49:29,380 --> 00:49:34,180 So I was like, I always liked reading growing up, but it was like, when you don't read for 1504 00:49:34,180 --> 00:49:37,620 a long time, once you start to read again, it's kind of like you get sleepy when you 1505 00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:41,180 read because your brain is working overload or whatever. 1506 00:49:41,180 --> 00:49:45,300 So I started just looking for books anywhere I can get, anywhere I can start. 1507 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:46,300 I found a... 1508 00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:48,820 No, I'm not promoting that. 1509 00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:51,580 I found a website where you can get super cheap books or whatever. 1510 00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:52,580 Yeah. 1511 00:49:52,580 --> 00:49:56,220 So I got those books and then I go to the thrift store, look for books on the shelves, 1512 00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:58,580 anything that stood out, I grab it, read it. 1513 00:49:58,580 --> 00:49:59,580 Yeah. 1514 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:00,580 And... 1515 00:50:00,580 --> 00:50:01,580 You see how you can get a lot of stuff online. 1516 00:50:01,580 --> 00:50:06,980 This is one of the things in my course through the Internet Archive and through USC. 1517 00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:08,380 Books they don't even print anymore. 1518 00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:09,380 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1519 00:50:09,380 --> 00:50:10,380 You still got access to them. 1520 00:50:10,380 --> 00:50:11,380 Yeah. 1521 00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:13,380 But I know I like holding the book also. 1522 00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:14,380 Yeah. 1523 00:50:14,380 --> 00:50:16,700 But I started waking up at like two. 1524 00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:22,420 So give me a couple other books you're reading besides Outliers and The Mapa Mentality. 1525 00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:23,420 Yeah. 1526 00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:27,500 The one I just finished before I started this one was like The Seven Spiritual Laws. 1527 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:28,500 Oh, yeah. 1528 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:29,500 Oh, my God. 1529 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:30,500 Yeah, of course. 1530 00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:31,500 Those are classics. 1531 00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:32,500 That's so good, The Seven Spiritual Laws. 1532 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:35,100 I like you're saying it like in some obscure book you found. 1533 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,060 Because if I go outside and ask anybody out there, they wouldn't really know. 1534 00:50:38,060 --> 00:50:39,060 No, no, no. 1535 00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:40,060 I'm into it now. 1536 00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:41,060 Yeah. 1537 00:50:41,060 --> 00:50:42,060 It's a life... 1538 00:50:42,060 --> 00:50:43,620 And the first one I had was in high school. 1539 00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:45,500 I found one that really helped me. 1540 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:46,500 Yeah. 1541 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:49,020 And to today, I'm always trying to improve myself. 1542 00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:50,020 Psycho-Cybernetics. 1543 00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:51,020 Yeah, yeah. 1544 00:50:51,020 --> 00:50:52,020 That's a good one. 1545 00:50:52,020 --> 00:50:53,020 Psycho-Cybernetics. 1546 00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:56,580 And then one of my favorite novels had to be A Picture of Dorian Gray. 1547 00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:57,580 Oh, really? 1548 00:50:57,580 --> 00:50:58,580 You ever read that? 1549 00:50:58,580 --> 00:50:59,580 I never. 1550 00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:00,580 I only saw the movie. 1551 00:51:00,580 --> 00:51:02,540 You saw the movie before you read the book? 1552 00:51:02,540 --> 00:51:03,540 The picture? 1553 00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:04,540 I'm a movie guy. 1554 00:51:04,540 --> 00:51:05,540 Oh, yeah, you are. 1555 00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:06,540 I'm a movie. 1556 00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:07,540 I love going to the movies. 1557 00:51:07,540 --> 00:51:08,540 Sorry, sorry. 1558 00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:09,540 No, no. 1559 00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:10,540 Actually, I do. 1560 00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:11,540 Yeah, I'm like a movie. 1561 00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:12,540 I'm going after tonight. 1562 00:51:12,540 --> 00:51:13,540 Where are you going to watch? 1563 00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:15,340 It's a movie I never heard of. 1564 00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:16,960 It's at the New Beverly Theater. 1565 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,960 They show old... 1566 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,960 Yes, you can tell I'm a history guy. 1567 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,960 Yeah. 1568 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,960 So I like old movies. 1569 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,960 I need to go over there. 1570 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,620 I'm trying to find a movie theater out here because at home I used to go by myself a lot. 1571 00:51:26,620 --> 00:51:27,620 It's called Dealing. 1572 00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:29,340 It's a movie I've never heard about. 1573 00:51:29,340 --> 00:51:30,340 Okay. 1574 00:51:30,340 --> 00:51:31,340 It's part of a double feature. 1575 00:51:31,340 --> 00:51:32,340 All right. 1576 00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:37,260 And the first one is Badlands, which is that Terrence Malick movie that I've seen 10 times. 1577 00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:38,260 So I've never seen it. 1578 00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:40,260 My friend was like, you want to go see Dealing? 1579 00:51:40,260 --> 00:51:42,260 I go, I have to do a bucket. 1580 00:51:42,260 --> 00:51:44,260 I think it'll work out. 1581 00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:45,260 Yeah. 1582 00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:46,260 But they show old movies. 1583 00:51:46,260 --> 00:51:47,260 You know Quentin Tarantino? 1584 00:51:47,260 --> 00:51:48,260 Yes, I do. 1585 00:51:48,260 --> 00:51:50,780 The Quentin Tarantino movies. 1586 00:51:50,780 --> 00:51:52,140 I don't want to get around mob movies. 1587 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:53,140 He did... 1588 00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:54,140 Did he do the mob movies? 1589 00:51:54,140 --> 00:51:55,140 Mob? 1590 00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:56,140 Mob. 1591 00:51:56,140 --> 00:51:57,140 Hold on. 1592 00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:58,140 Let me see. 1593 00:51:58,140 --> 00:51:59,140 Are you saying MOB? 1594 00:51:59,140 --> 00:52:00,140 Yeah. 1595 00:52:00,140 --> 00:52:01,140 No, that's not it. 1596 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:02,140 What movies did he do? 1597 00:52:02,140 --> 00:52:03,140 He did Pulp Fiction. 1598 00:52:03,140 --> 00:52:04,140 Oh yeah. 1599 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:05,140 No, he's super creative with the art. 1600 00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:06,140 Django and Trae. 1601 00:52:06,140 --> 00:52:07,140 Yeah. 1602 00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:08,140 I'm sorry. 1603 00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:09,140 That's my bad job. 1604 00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:12,540 But anyway, he owns that theater, the New Beverly Theater. 1605 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:13,540 Really? 1606 00:52:13,540 --> 00:52:14,540 Yeah. 1607 00:52:14,540 --> 00:52:15,540 And they only show... 1608 00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:16,540 Yeah. 1609 00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:17,540 It's incredible. 1610 00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:19,220 They only show real movies on film, not video. 1611 00:52:19,220 --> 00:52:20,860 That's the type of stuff I like. 1612 00:52:20,860 --> 00:52:23,580 I really like to get into movies and I hate being distracted. 1613 00:52:23,580 --> 00:52:24,580 Why don't you get to... 1614 00:52:24,580 --> 00:52:26,580 There's incredible classes here you can take. 1615 00:52:26,580 --> 00:52:27,580 Really? 1616 00:52:27,580 --> 00:52:28,580 Where they just show movies. 1617 00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:29,580 Yeah. 1618 00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:30,580 You should take some. 1619 00:52:30,580 --> 00:52:31,580 I'll take some GEs. 1620 00:52:31,580 --> 00:52:35,220 Yeah, take some GEs more than this. 1621 00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:37,260 But now it's... 1622 00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:39,780 I love that you're... 1623 00:52:39,780 --> 00:52:40,780 That book is incredible. 1624 00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:42,380 That book is really good. 1625 00:52:42,380 --> 00:52:44,380 The more I get into it, the more I... 1626 00:52:44,380 --> 00:52:48,380 You know, I used to make fun of that book in my acting. 1627 00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:52,660 I would say, so this is what Malcolm Gladwell proposed as an outlier. 1628 00:52:52,660 --> 00:52:57,780 He said, if you do something for 10,000 hours, you'll get good at it. 1629 00:52:57,780 --> 00:53:00,340 I'm like, oh really? 1630 00:53:00,340 --> 00:53:05,620 No one ever knew that if you practiced, you would get good before he came up with it. 1631 00:53:05,620 --> 00:53:06,980 Okay. 1632 00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:07,980 What else you got? 1633 00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:10,980 Did if you eat too much food, you'll get bad? 1634 00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:11,980 Is that your next book? 1635 00:53:11,980 --> 00:53:14,980 You eat too much sweets, you get bad. 1636 00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:15,980 Yeah, we get it. 1637 00:53:15,980 --> 00:53:17,980 You practice a lot, you're gonna get good. 1638 00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:20,420 But no, he really puts it in a very... 1639 00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:22,420 He's a great writer, that guy. 1640 00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:23,420 I love him. 1641 00:53:23,420 --> 00:53:24,420 I love him so much. 1642 00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:25,420 Actually, oh, it's not on this computer. 1643 00:53:25,420 --> 00:53:26,420 I have a... 1644 00:53:26,420 --> 00:53:27,420 I'll bring it... 1645 00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:32,100 I'll show you a class when I get my charger to my other computer. 1646 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,300 The spreadsheet of books that I've read this year. 1647 00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:35,300 I can't wait. 1648 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:36,300 Yeah, so I'll show you. 1649 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:37,300 As soon as I can get into it. 1650 00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:42,740 Again, Austin, I'm super curious about how people... 1651 00:53:42,740 --> 00:53:46,500 To tell you the truth, this is my honest react, it's surprising to me that you're reading 1652 00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:47,500 books. 1653 00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:48,500 Really? 1654 00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:52,700 Yeah, just because I just feel like you're inundated with so much media. 1655 00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:53,700 Yeah. 1656 00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:58,860 As a young person and like that you're just like, I just don't know how you would have 1657 00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:00,300 time to read books. 1658 00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:01,300 Sounded. 1659 00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:02,300 Okay. 1660 00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:03,300 Yeah, I don't know. 1661 00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:04,300 Let me hear a couple. 1662 00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:05,300 All right, let's see. 1663 00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:06,300 So in January... 1664 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:07,300 I love it. 1665 00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:10,260 I love this part of the OCD party. 1666 00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:15,060 My favorite book out of there was... 1667 00:54:15,060 --> 00:54:17,660 I say Seven Habits of Highly Effective. 1668 00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:18,660 Yeah? 1669 00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:19,660 That's a classic. 1670 00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:28,420 February, one of my favorites out of the few was A Little History on Economics. 1671 00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:33,460 And it was like a book and it went through like an order from kind of like the history 1672 00:54:33,460 --> 00:54:34,460 class that we're doing. 1673 00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:35,460 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1674 00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:39,060 In order from the beginners of economics all the way to... 1675 00:54:39,060 --> 00:54:42,060 Talk about Adam Smith and all of that stuff. 1676 00:54:42,060 --> 00:54:44,300 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1677 00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:45,300 You ever... 1678 00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:46,300 It's another one called... 1679 00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:48,060 In March I read The Fourth Turning. 1680 00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:49,380 Have you ever heard of that? 1681 00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:50,380 Say it again? 1682 00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:51,620 The Fourth Turning. 1683 00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:52,620 The Fourth Turn... 1684 00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:53,620 Never heard of it. 1685 00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:54,620 All right, so basically... 1686 00:54:54,620 --> 00:54:55,620 I love it. 1687 00:54:55,620 --> 00:54:56,620 I love it. 1688 00:54:56,620 --> 00:55:02,860 Off the top of my head, the idealism of the book is that in America we look at history 1689 00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:04,340 as a linear timeline. 1690 00:55:04,340 --> 00:55:09,620 So I think nothing has to do with what the past brought before. 1691 00:55:09,620 --> 00:55:13,540 But he's explaining that we live in like a cyclical time. 1692 00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:18,020 So the lesson to keep repeating itself until we learn from it. 1693 00:55:18,020 --> 00:55:20,500 And then we'll move into like a linear straight... 1694 00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:21,500 I wish I had a whiteboard. 1695 00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:22,500 Okay, okay. 1696 00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:23,500 Now I got it. 1697 00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:24,500 Now I found it. 1698 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:25,500 And then we'll get a new one. 1699 00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:28,500 Literally there's one touching the back of your head. 1700 00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:29,500 Yeah. 1701 00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:30,500 Yeah. 1702 00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:36,500 Yeah, I wish I had a swivel chair. 1703 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:39,500 We all have things we wish for, right? 1704 00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:40,500 Yeah, yeah. 1705 00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:41,500 Matter of fact. 1706 00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:42,500 Yeah. 1707 00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:43,500 Oh my God. 1708 00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:44,500 How about Atomic Habits? 1709 00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:45,500 I have read that one. 1710 00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:46,500 I read that one in January as well. 1711 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:47,500 You have? 1712 00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:48,500 I'm just getting into it. 1713 00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:49,500 Really? 1714 00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:50,500 Yeah. 1715 00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:51,500 It's so good. 1716 00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:52,500 You liked it? 1717 00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:53,500 Yeah, that book was given to me actually. 1718 00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:54,500 It was? 1719 00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:55,500 I forget who gave me that book. 1720 00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:56,500 A lot of people like that book. 1721 00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:57,500 Yeah. 1722 00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:58,500 You read The Art of War? 1723 00:55:58,500 --> 00:55:59,500 Yeah, I couldn't get through it. 1724 00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:00,500 Really? 1725 00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:01,500 It just seemed too manipulative to me. 1726 00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:02,500 Yeah, I know what you're saying. 1727 00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:03,500 Yeah, he was like... 1728 00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:04,500 It's so many like... 1729 00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:05,500 It's so hard to understand. 1730 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:06,500 I don't want to be winning. 1731 00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:07,500 I just want me to win for myself. 1732 00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:08,500 I don't need to destroy somebody. 1733 00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:09,500 Yeah. 1734 00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:14,500 Never fight with your back to the ring. 1735 00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:15,500 Yeah, exactly. 1736 00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:16,500 Exactly. 1737 00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:17,500 I don't need... 1738 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:18,500 Oh my God. 1739 00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:19,500 That's funny. 1740 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:20,500 That's funny. 1741 00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:21,500 Yeah. 1742 00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:24,500 Tattoos on the Heart is a really good book. 1743 00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:25,500 I don't know. 1744 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:26,500 I don't need to. 1745 00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:27,500 It's not even like a self-improvement book. 1746 00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:28,500 Right. 1747 00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:29,500 It's more like... 1748 00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:32,980 It's actually centered out of South Central LA. 1749 00:56:32,980 --> 00:56:33,980 Correct. 1750 00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:36,900 And it's by this guy who runs this company called Homeboy Industries. 1751 00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:38,900 Who is that homeboy industries? 1752 00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:39,900 Well, yeah, he wrote the book. 1753 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:40,900 Really? 1754 00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:41,900 Yeah. 1755 00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:42,900 I got to go over there. 1756 00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:43,900 I told my mom. 1757 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:44,900 Their food is amazing. 1758 00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:45,900 It's good? 1759 00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:46,900 I don't know. 1760 00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:47,900 Not good. 1761 00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:48,900 Very good. 1762 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:49,900 Oh, really? 1763 00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:50,900 Very good. 1764 00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:51,900 And it's not like, we'll support the guy with the gang members and all of that. 1765 00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:52,900 No, the food is really good. 1766 00:56:52,900 --> 00:56:53,900 Really? 1767 00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:54,900 Oh yeah. 1768 00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:55,900 I got to go over there. 1769 00:56:55,900 --> 00:56:56,900 One of these weekends, I got to hit it. 1770 00:56:56,900 --> 00:56:57,900 Yeah. 1771 00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:58,900 They have Homeboy... 1772 00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:01,900 They have them in airports now. 1773 00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:02,900 Wow. 1774 00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:03,900 Yeah, they're really killing it. 1775 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:04,900 Yeah. 1776 00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:05,900 And it's all ex-gang members, right? 1777 00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:06,900 Yeah. 1778 00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:07,900 Yeah. 1779 00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:08,900 It's a real art of not giving a fuck. 1780 00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:09,900 Yes. 1781 00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:13,900 It's interesting you should bring up that book because it was just on a list I read of 1782 00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:16,460 the top 15 books you should read. 1783 00:57:16,460 --> 00:57:17,460 Yeah. 1784 00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:18,460 And it was on that. 1785 00:57:18,460 --> 00:57:21,060 It was like, I might try that book. 1786 00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:22,060 Yeah, it's really good. 1787 00:57:22,060 --> 00:57:23,060 You'd like... 1788 00:57:23,060 --> 00:57:24,060 You'd finish that one? 1789 00:57:24,060 --> 00:57:25,060 Mm-hmm. 1790 00:57:25,060 --> 00:57:26,060 Okay. 1791 00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:27,540 Crucial Conversations is a good book. 1792 00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:29,980 It really teaches you how to... 1793 00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:32,340 What to think about going into hard conversations. 1794 00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:35,700 There's a lot of times we'll go into a conversation thinking only about ourselves. 1795 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:36,700 Yeah. 1796 00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:42,500 And we find out that the conversation opens up when we begin to listen to the other person 1797 00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:48,820 and to begin to react off of what they're saying instead of having predestined points 1798 00:57:48,820 --> 00:57:49,820 that we want to get at. 1799 00:57:49,820 --> 00:57:50,820 It sounds like an acting exercise. 1800 00:57:50,820 --> 00:57:51,820 Yeah. 1801 00:57:51,820 --> 00:57:55,140 That's why I freestyled the podcast because I feel like if I come with you like... 1802 00:57:55,140 --> 00:57:56,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1803 00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:59,340 Pre-fire questions, I'm going to run out and there's going to be an awkward silence for 1804 00:57:59,340 --> 00:58:00,340 the next 20 minutes and then... 1805 00:58:00,340 --> 00:58:01,340 I think I could fill that out. 1806 00:58:01,340 --> 00:58:02,340 I'm a professional. 1807 00:58:02,340 --> 00:58:07,020 No, no, no. 1808 00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:09,220 That is interesting. 1809 00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:11,460 But that is, like I said, that's like an acting exercise. 1810 00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:12,460 Yeah. 1811 00:58:12,460 --> 00:58:14,460 Like to not have just... 1812 00:58:14,460 --> 00:58:15,460 Again, it's... 1813 00:58:15,460 --> 00:58:16,460 It's just dialogue. 1814 00:58:16,460 --> 00:58:17,460 Yeah. 1815 00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:18,460 To be in it. 1816 00:58:18,460 --> 00:58:19,460 Yeah. 1817 00:58:19,460 --> 00:58:20,460 Fall right into it. 1818 00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:21,460 Right now I feel like I'm totally immersed. 1819 00:58:21,460 --> 00:58:22,460 Yeah. 1820 00:58:22,460 --> 00:58:23,460 We've already been over an hour. 1821 00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:24,460 Yeah. 1822 00:58:24,460 --> 00:58:25,460 Let's go. 1823 00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:26,460 Oh, I'm watching the clock. 1824 00:58:26,460 --> 00:58:27,460 No, I'm kidding. 1825 00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:28,460 The French art... 1826 00:58:28,460 --> 00:58:29,460 So give me some other ones. 1827 00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:31,460 The French art and not trying too hard. 1828 00:58:31,460 --> 00:58:32,460 What? 1829 00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:33,460 Yeah. 1830 00:58:33,460 --> 00:58:34,820 I'm not trying too hard. 1831 00:58:34,820 --> 00:58:35,820 Yeah, I'm not trying. 1832 00:58:35,820 --> 00:58:41,780 It's like the idealism behind that one is basically to succeed at what you want to succeed 1833 00:58:41,780 --> 00:58:44,580 at, don't try at all. 1834 00:58:44,580 --> 00:58:45,580 So I know it's like... 1835 00:58:45,580 --> 00:58:48,580 It's like the opposite of the mama mentality. 1836 00:58:48,580 --> 00:58:49,580 Yeah. 1837 00:58:49,580 --> 00:58:50,580 It's like... 1838 00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:51,580 So you want to... 1839 00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:55,300 You can say put the manifestation in the air. 1840 00:58:55,300 --> 00:58:56,300 And then... 1841 00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:57,300 Set the goal. 1842 00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:02,500 Unless you begin to have like, again, predestined goals, stuff that you want to hit. 1843 00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:03,500 Right. 1844 00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:04,500 It becomes harder to work in. 1845 00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:05,500 I know. 1846 00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:06,500 I know, guys. 1847 00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:07,500 They got to be. 1848 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:08,500 Let me put it this way. 1849 00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:09,500 Breakout rooms is what we learn. 1850 00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:10,500 Yeah. 1851 00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:11,500 Not soundproof. 1852 00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:12,500 Yeah, at all. 1853 00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:13,500 We need to... 1854 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:14,500 That was going to happen. 1855 00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:15,500 That was going to happen. 1856 00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:16,500 Give me another one. 1857 00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:17,500 I'm very curious. 1858 00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:18,500 I'm dead. 1859 00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:19,500 Oh, I'm going to finish the idealism behind it. 1860 00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:20,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1861 00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:21,500 Probably left some people on cliffhanger. 1862 00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:22,500 But you set the goal. 1863 00:59:22,500 --> 00:59:23,500 You set the goal. 1864 00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:24,500 You set the goal. 1865 00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:25,500 You set the goal. 1866 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:26,500 You set the goal. 1867 00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:27,500 You set the goal. 1868 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:30,500 And then you let life do its job. 1869 00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:35,980 You let the universe do its job between point A and point B or Z, whatever letter you want 1870 00:59:35,980 --> 00:59:36,980 to use. 1871 00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:43,940 But if you come at your goal predestined with every single thing that you want to accomplish, 1872 00:59:43,940 --> 00:59:46,980 you're not going to be ready for when you don't complete that goal. 1873 00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:47,980 Got it. 1874 00:59:47,980 --> 00:59:48,980 And it'll set you off, just like in sports. 1875 00:59:48,980 --> 00:59:49,980 Right, right. 1876 00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:50,980 It'll set you off the record or whatever. 1877 00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:51,980 I don't know how that does make sense. 1878 00:59:51,980 --> 00:59:52,980 It'll be hard to get back on. 1879 00:59:52,980 --> 00:59:53,980 Yeah, yeah. 1880 00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:54,980 To settle back on. 1881 00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:55,980 Right, right. 1882 00:59:55,980 --> 00:59:56,980 But you know, success through a positive mental attitude. 1883 00:59:56,980 --> 00:59:57,980 Yeah, that's one. 1884 00:59:57,980 --> 00:59:58,980 That's probably the oldest one on there. 1885 00:59:58,980 --> 00:59:59,980 Yeah, probably. 1886 00:59:59,980 --> 01:00:00,980 Let's see. 1887 01:00:00,980 --> 01:00:01,980 Yeah. 1888 01:00:01,980 --> 01:00:02,980 Nausea. 1889 01:00:02,980 --> 01:00:03,980 I never got through that. 1890 01:00:03,980 --> 01:00:04,980 I didn't get too far through that. 1891 01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:05,980 But that's more of a, that's a philosophy book. 1892 01:00:05,980 --> 01:00:06,980 Okay, okay. 1893 01:00:06,980 --> 01:00:07,980 And that was, let's see, that was written by, I learned about this in philosophy class. 1894 01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:08,980 That's probably the funnest class I took in high school. 1895 01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:09,980 It was? 1896 01:00:09,980 --> 01:00:10,980 Philosophy one and two. 1897 01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:11,980 Those were like one of my best classes. 1898 01:00:11,980 --> 01:00:12,980 But that book was written by John Paul, who was a great guy. 1899 01:00:12,980 --> 01:00:13,980 I don't know if you've heard of him. 1900 01:00:13,980 --> 01:00:14,980 He was a great guy. 1901 01:00:14,980 --> 01:00:15,980 He was a great guy. 1902 01:00:15,980 --> 01:00:16,980 He was a great guy. 1903 01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:17,980 He was a great guy. 1904 01:00:17,980 --> 01:00:26,020 He was a great guy. 1905 01:00:26,020 --> 01:00:34,020 He was a great guy. 1906 01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:39,020 He was a great guy. 1907 01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:49,060 He was a great guy. 1908 01:00:49,060 --> 01:00:54,060 He was a great guy. 1909 01:00:54,060 --> 01:01:01,060 He was a great guy. 1910 01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:09,100 He was a great guy. 1911 01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:16,100 He was a great guy. 1912 01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:21,100 He was a great guy. 1913 01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:31,140 He was a great guy. 1914 01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:39,140 He was a great guy. 1915 01:01:39,140 --> 01:01:46,140 He was a great guy. 1916 01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:52,160 He was a great guy. 1917 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,080 really great people, really great people around the world. 1918 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,080 You look at his notes, you look at what Pourri especially. 1919 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,080 That's crazy. 1920 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,080 Yeah. 1921 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:51,140 If you look out the window, there's a lot of people looking at his notes, sitting 1922 01:01:51,140 --> 01:01:51,600 and reading and thinking together. 1923 01:01:51,260 --> 01:01:51,680 in Ryan Mac Tak? 1924 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:51,960 If you look at his notes, you'd see, look, even, because that's so great. 1925 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,680 Aaa, this, this guy's got a bunch of stuff. 1926 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:52,000 He would look at his notes. 1927 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,200 At the end, if I can think, well, what's system is, or wait, are there 1928 01:01:52,160 --> 01:02:02,700 I don't know if you've learned, I learned about even, but I looks at it and even his 1929 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,680 Yeah. 1930 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,680 I love that you're into philosophy. 1931 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,680 Yeah, so interesting. 1932 01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,680 That's insane. 1933 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,680 That was your favorite course? 1934 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:02,680 Yeah. 1935 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:03,680 Oh, wow. 1936 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:03,700 ��신too. 1937 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,680 Because I just really like to see other people's views on things. 1938 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,680 And that's one of the part of reasons I started this podcast as well. 1939 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,680 I didn't want to just be the one talking about what I learned. 1940 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,680 I like to feel like I don't know anything at all. 1941 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,680 You know what I'm saying? 1942 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:21,680 And once you get yourself into that mindset, it's not you see yourself as dumb, but you 1943 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,680 see yourself as... 1944 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:23,680 Open. 1945 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,680 Open to everything around, and that's one thing I really had to learn. 1946 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,680 Because I used to be super bad at taking constructive criticism. 1947 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,680 I become super defensive at it. 1948 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,680 I feel like there's nothing wrong with me. 1949 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,680 I'm the most perfect, but the more that I tend to look for it, the more I'm more acceptable 1950 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,680 to it. 1951 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,680 And you don't always have to take it in. 1952 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,680 You know what I mean? 1953 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,680 So that was one of the things I really had to learn to get into. 1954 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,680 Another book called Self Help Book. 1955 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,680 I'm not saying it for you. 1956 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,680 It was pretty helpful for me. 1957 01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,680 One of them backfired once, but called The Four Agreements. 1958 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,680 Oh, that's on the list. 1959 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,680 It is? 1960 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:04,680 Yeah. 1961 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,680 That book's incredible. 1962 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,680 It seems so simple. 1963 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,680 You're like, what? 1964 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,680 I knew that already. 1965 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,680 Yeah. 1966 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,680 Yeah. 1967 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,680 But what did you take from it? 1968 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,680 Well, it's exactly what you're talking about. 1969 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:17,680 Don't take things personally. 1970 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:18,680 Yeah. 1971 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,680 Okay. 1972 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,680 You're giving me criticism. 1973 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,680 You're giving me praise. 1974 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,680 I'm going to use it. 1975 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,680 Don't take it personally. 1976 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,680 It's about them. 1977 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,680 Yeah. 1978 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,680 So it's hard to... 1979 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:27,680 Yeah. 1980 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,680 And that's another thing about life. 1981 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,680 If you're going to accept one thing, you've got to accept the counterpart. 1982 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,680 Yeah. 1983 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,680 So you accept the praise. 1984 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,680 You've got to accept the criticism. 1985 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,680 Yeah. 1986 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,680 So you can't have one or the other. 1987 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,680 You've got to... 1988 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,680 Yeah. 1989 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,680 They're both imposters, but it's hard. 1990 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,680 It's hard because the praise feels so good. 1991 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:46,680 Yeah. 1992 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,680 And you can fall into it. 1993 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,680 Oh, of course. 1994 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,680 And sometimes I get so scared when I'm doing so good because it's like, I don't want this 1995 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,680 to stop. 1996 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,680 All right. 1997 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,680 I never want this to stop. 1998 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:58,680 But you ever heard of the... 1999 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:05,680 You ever been in a mental state where it's like everything is going so good that you're 2000 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,680 like, something has to go bad eventually? 2001 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,680 You ever been through that? 2002 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,680 No. 2003 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,680 No. 2004 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:19,680 What happens when things go really well for me is I...and again, I'm not like a God guy, 2005 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,680 but I've always...I always just go, thank you. 2006 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,680 Whatever is making this happen, I appreciate it. 2007 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,680 You know what I mean? 2008 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,680 Just so it's a little out of me as opposed to, oh, crushing it. 2009 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,680 Yeah. 2010 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:32,680 I'm the one who's doing this. 2011 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,680 I love to do this. 2012 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,680 Yeah. 2013 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,680 Just like good fortune comes your way for something. 2014 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,680 And I just go, thank you. 2015 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,680 I don't know what's happening, but this is insane. 2016 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,680 Yeah, I'm glad that it's happening. 2017 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:48,680 And I want to acknowledge that I know that this is like a series of good things. 2018 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:49,680 Yeah. 2019 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,680 And it's the same thing with me coming from all the way from Detroit to Los Angeles. 2020 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,680 I never thought I'd make it back out. 2021 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,680 Well, I've never been here, but a part of my family is from out here. 2022 01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,680 Really? 2023 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:00,680 My dad's side. 2024 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,680 My granddad was born here. 2025 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:02,680 Okay. 2026 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,680 He was raised here, and then they moved to Detroit. 2027 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,680 Growing up, we weren't the wealthiest, so it wasn't like you could just go to California. 2028 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,680 So I was always asking to go, asking to go, and... 2029 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,680 I love it. 2030 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:14,680 It's like it's already like an success story. 2031 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,680 I got myself here. 2032 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,680 Yeah. 2033 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,680 And you're just a freshman. 2034 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:19,680 Yeah. 2035 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,680 I think what you're going to be like is a senior. 2036 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,680 That's what I'm saying. 2037 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,680 That's another thing I've been thinking about. 2038 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,680 It's like... how do I put this? 2039 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,680 It's like not everything is going to be right in front of you right now. 2040 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:37,680 And I'm starting to fall in love with the fact that every day I'm getting closer and 2041 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,680 closer to who I want to be. 2042 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,680 And it's like I'm so eager to... I want to see what it is, but then at the same time, 2043 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,680 I don't want to spoil it for myself. 2044 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:46,680 You know what I mean? 2045 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,680 I just... I'm trying to watch myself grow and then keep myself in the mindset that it's 2046 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,680 okay to grow at a different pace than others. 2047 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:59,680 Because you'll go on the internet and you'll see everybody flourishing and stuff, and now 2048 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,680 you got your own preconceived notions about what they may be doing or how successful they 2049 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:05,680 may be. 2050 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,680 They may be having the worst day of their life, but if they post... 2051 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,680 That's super healthy, of course. 2052 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,680 Yeah. 2053 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:17,680 So it's really about staying on track and understanding that everybody grows at a different 2054 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:18,680 pace. 2055 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,680 Everybody's timeline... everybody perceives time differently. 2056 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,680 You can't compare yourself though. 2057 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,680 Yeah. 2058 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:24,680 It's almost... but it's hard... anyway. 2059 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:25,680 Yeah. 2060 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,680 That's very healthy. 2061 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,680 No, go ahead. 2062 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,680 I'm listening. 2063 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,680 No, there's nothing to say. 2064 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,680 I'm just saying there's no... it's just like... it's hard not to compare yourself, especially 2065 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,680 if somebody's doing something exactly that you want to be doing. 2066 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:38,680 Yeah. 2067 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,680 You're like, oh, you're living my... man, it's my dream. 2068 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,680 So it's hard not to, but... 2069 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,680 And then we can't see everybody's road to getting there. 2070 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:48,680 You can't see everything. 2071 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:49,680 Yeah. 2072 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:50,680 So... 2073 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:51,680 Yeah. 2074 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,680 Oh, and that's also how I got into reading, when you were asking how I got into it. 2075 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,680 So what happened was social media is social media. 2076 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,680 I used to be on it a lot, and then a part of me started to take myself away from what 2077 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,680 was going on, and actually I started doing these practices and started noticing my feelings 2078 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,680 and stuff, meditations or whatever. 2079 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:17,680 And I would notice that when I'm on social media, it's like pulling out of me is draining. 2080 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,680 So what I had to do was I had to delete all social media, and I had to figure out how 2081 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,680 to reconnect with me and try to figure out who I was and what I was doing. 2082 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,680 I can't even imagine somebody your age having to deal with that. 2083 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,680 I can't even imagine. 2084 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:36,680 Yeah, people would think I was crazy because I deleted off my phone disabled account because 2085 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:41,680 it's like, we got to remember at the end of the day, this is... it's only as real as 2086 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:42,680 you make it. 2087 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:43,680 It's not just at the end of the day. 2088 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:44,680 You're in the middle of the day. 2089 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:45,680 Sorry. 2090 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:46,680 In the morning. 2091 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:47,680 Yeah, you're right. 2092 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:48,680 Suddenly we don't care about that. 2093 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:49,680 Only at the end of the day. 2094 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:50,680 Okay. 2095 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,680 Only 10,000. 2096 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:52,680 Thank you, Malcolm. 2097 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:53,680 Thank you. 2098 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,680 Yeah. 2099 01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:07,680 No, that's something your generation is just like, it's up to here. 2100 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:08,680 Yeah. 2101 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:09,680 People drowning. 2102 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:10,680 You sort of live your life. 2103 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,680 I feel like... this is my perspective. 2104 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,680 You tell me if I'm close. 2105 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,680 I'm listening. 2106 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:27,160 Is that I feel like your cohort, your generation, kind of live two lives. 2107 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,160 You live this life. 2108 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,160 And then one on the internet. 2109 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,160 Yeah. 2110 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,520 I feel like you live another life with likes and things. 2111 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:34,520 And they do cross over. 2112 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:41,200 I mean, you meet, but it's like that person is a little different than this person. 2113 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,800 So I don't know what the psychological... maybe that's just the evolution of human beings. 2114 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:46,800 Yeah, I wonder how it's going to go. 2115 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:47,800 Because now the AI is coming out. 2116 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,400 I'm not saying get off social media. 2117 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,160 I'm just saying that's what it seems to me. 2118 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,160 I don't know what you're saying. 2119 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,160 I understand what you're saying. 2120 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,160 I don't know what the toll is. 2121 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,160 And then now that AI is coming out. 2122 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,160 Get ready. 2123 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:02,240 How are we going to immerse ourselves in that and be able to... it might be three lives, 2124 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,240 you know what I'm saying? 2125 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,240 Social media AI. 2126 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,240 Yeah. 2127 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,040 And in real life, if there's any left, you know what I mean? 2128 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,040 So we got to... 2129 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,040 I know. 2130 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:15,760 I know, but this is the thing, you still got to go to Taco Bell and get a burrito or something, 2131 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:16,760 right? 2132 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,760 No matter what's going on, you still got to... how can I get there? 2133 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:20,760 I don't know. 2134 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,440 I mean, they might start to... don't quote me on it. 2135 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:27,000 They might start putting neurotransmitters in our brain to make us think that we ate. 2136 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,000 It's possible. 2137 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,960 And start feeding us waves or whatever. 2138 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:30,960 It's possible. 2139 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:31,960 Yeah. 2140 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,240 Do you know the movie Soylent Green by any chance? 2141 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:37,240 Soylent Green. 2142 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,240 I don't think I've ever heard of it. 2143 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,920 It's a futuristic movie that came out in 1973. 2144 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:44,920 73. 2145 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:45,920 73. 2146 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,920 Yeah. 2147 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:47,920 You're like me. 2148 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,920 I love the dates. 2149 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:49,920 I love the dates. 2150 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,760 But it takes place in the future in 2020. 2151 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,280 I believe it's 2020 is when it takes place. 2152 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,960 So three years ago, right? 2153 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:05,560 So their view of what had happened will happen because it was 50 years into the future, obviously. 2154 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,160 So it's pretty wild. 2155 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,160 Yeah. 2156 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,160 Check it out. 2157 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,160 But they get a lot wrong. 2158 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,160 They get a lot wrong. 2159 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,160 But if there's some twists, you might like it. 2160 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,160 Yeah. 2161 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,160 Check it out. 2162 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,160 And all right. 2163 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,160 Let's wrap it up. 2164 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:20,160 Let's wrap it up. 2165 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,160 Okay. 2166 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,160 Here's my quote. 2167 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,160 Quote of the day. 2168 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,160 Here's my quote of the day. 2169 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,160 I'm listening. 2170 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,160 You're asking. 2171 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,160 We're listening. 2172 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,160 It's from... God, what is the guy's name? 2173 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,160 Let me see if I can remember. 2174 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,160 He was an author. 2175 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,160 He wrote about Abe Lincoln. 2176 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,160 What's his thing? 2177 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,160 His name escapes me right now. 2178 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:43,000 It's very close, but it doesn't matter. 2179 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,000 Here it is. 2180 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,400 And it goes back to something we said earlier. 2181 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,160 Beware of all advice, even this. 2182 01:10:52,160 --> 01:11:00,160 It's like... I don't even know what to think of it. 2183 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,160 Oh, Carl Sandberg. 2184 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,160 Carl Sandberg. 2185 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,160 Carl Sandberg. 2186 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,360 I believe with a C. Carl Sandberg. 2187 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,800 Beware of all advice. 2188 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,800 Carl's with K's. 2189 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:09,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2190 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:10,800 I have never met a Carl with K's. 2191 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:11,800 Really? 2192 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,800 Yeah, I've never seen him. 2193 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:13,800 We got to end this. 2194 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:14,800 It reminds me of love. 2195 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:15,800 Well, yeah. 2196 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:16,800 Thank you for coming on, and I appreciate everything. 2197 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:17,800 Oh, cool, man. 2198 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,800 I love it. 2199 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:19,800 I love it. 2200 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:20,800 That was really fun. 2201 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:21,800 Yeah. 2202 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:22,800 I learned a lot about you, Austin. 2203 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:23,800 Thank you. 2204 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:24,800 Bye. 2205 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,800 Bye. 2206 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:26,800 Bye. 2207 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,800 Bye. 2208 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,800 Bye. 2209 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,800 Bye. 2210 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:30,800 Bye. 2211 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,800 Bye. 2212 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:32,800 Bye. 2213 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:33,800 Bye. 2214 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,800 Bye. 2215 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,800 Bye. 2216 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:36,800 Bye.