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We are going over the hierarchy of DC Comics.
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So we are going over the power hierarchy of DC Comics.
From the most powerful to some kind of farther down the list.
The power rankings basically for DC Comics have shifted.
Some of it's opinion, some of it is not.
But for the most part, these are the set order for the most part.
And this, the first part that we're going to be talking about was a hierarchy that happened
before this latest reboot.
Because DC Comics, we all know how much they love their reboots.
Fucking reboots every 20 days.
This is during the New 52 era.
So they just took, well, I kind of like the New 52 because it was fresh.
And then they're like, well, let's just go back to normal.
Let's change it back again.
Yeah, I'm like, God dang.
So during this, just as a placeholder of where we're at in DC Comics' reboot histories
and stuff, this is going to be like right after, like before the latest reboot, but
into the New 52 series.
So it's not like as soon as it happened, it's further into it.
Okay.
All right.
So we have the top 15 in that hierarchy.
Going from number 15, we have a character called the Ultimator.
The Ultimator.
Yeah, I remember him.
Remember the Ultimator?
Yeah, didn't have like the anti-Ultimator or some shit?
There was some weird-
Or was it the monitor and the anti-monitor?
It was the monitor and the anti-monitor.
The Ultimator is one of the most powerful entities in the DC universe.
The monster is a living embodiment of the 10th dimension, the ultimate dimension of
all.
Its powers are practically unfathomable and described as godlike.
The creature has the ability to warp reality, manipulate time, manipulate dimensions, and
shape shift.
Ultimator is a vicious predator type monster.
It has the ability to devour entire realities.
It believes its destiny-
Like, all of existence is what-
Pretty much, yeah.
Jesus Christ.
It believes its destiny is to consume all of the other dimensions and life forms and
make everything a part of itself.
Ultimator is an enemy of the 5th dimension, Ems.
By the time it reached the 5th dimension, Ultimator claims that it has already completely
destroyed four other dimensions.
Basically the Ems, aside from Mr. Mixpedlick, was basically no threat to him whatsoever.
Well damn.
It sure was a threat to everyone else on regular earth.
Pretty much, because you know we're all fucked when that happens.
Those Ems come out and are like, yes, what's up?
Mr. Mixpedlick is fucking with Superman all the time.
Going up to number 14, we have Mr. Mixpedlick.
I'm just that guy.
Mr. Mixy Spitalick is an Ems from the 5th dimension.
The main hero of the DC universe exists in the 3rd.
In the 3rd dimension, he's considered extremely powerful.
And when the Ems visits the 3rd dimension, he has unlimited powers to warp reality and
basically do whatever he wants.
He is not limited by the physical laws of the dimension and he also cannot be seriously
harmed.
And he loves to fuck with Superman all the time.
Going up from that, we have number 13, Kismet.
Kismet is a nigh omnipotent cosmic entity of the DC universe.
She possesses immense cosmic power and can pretty much do whatever she pleases, like
manipulate time, space, and reality.
Plus, since she is not affected by the passage of time, she's mortal.
Kismet is supposedly the literal embodiment of time and also serves as a protector of
the DC universe.
The full extent of her powers is unknown since she rarely appears in the comic books.
And obviously, it's a very unknown name, so yeah, most people don't know who the hell
she is.
Is that time with just a human construct?
Apparently, it took on a form.
Okay.
Next up, we have Krona.
Krona is an Owen born of the ancient planet Maltus.
He was once a scientist that sought to create order in the galaxy.
Krona became obsessed with discovering as much knowledge as possible.
He was warned never to try to discover the origins of the universe or a terrible disaster
would happen.
However, he did ignore the warning and created a machine that allowed him to see the beginning
of time itself.
I remember when I was a kid, where I said, like, don't touch it.
It's hot.
Like, oh, is it though?
Let me check with my face.
Krona, he managed to glimpse the beginning of the creation, but then the universe completely
shattered.
This created the DC multiverse and unleashed the concept of evil into the cosmos.
You son of a bitch.
Krona was punished by his fellow Owens.
He was turned into pure energy and condemned to wander the universe forever.
Those wicked actions inspire the Owens to become the guardians of the galaxy or guardians
of the universe.
Guardians of the galaxy.
We got to see that movie.
I heard it's rough to watch.
That's the same thing.
I heard it too.
Man, it's just dark.
Up from that, we have Anti-Monitor.
Okay, there he is.
The Anti-Monitor is one of the most powerful villains in the entire DC universe.
He has the ability to absorb the energy of his surroundings.
He can even absorb the energy of an entire universe to increase his own power.
The Anti-Monitor is the main villain of DC's crisis on an infinite earth.
The crossover event effectively destroyed the DC universe's multiverse.
He possessed a superhuman strength and durability, even withstanding direct punches from Superman
and a blue star going supernova.
Damn, he can take those hands?
Yes, he can.
He'll probably give his own.
That's also when he's got those hands.
Sometimes, that's all he needs.
The villain can also emit bolts of destructive energy and warp reality.
On top of that, he has access to highly advanced technology capable of shifting, merging, or
destroying entire universes.
The Anti-Monitor has killed more people than any other known supervillain.
He has also killed billions, including Barry Allen and Supergirl, two of Earth's strongest
superheroes.
That was redundant.
He's killed more people than anyone.
He's also killed billions.
Exactly.
He's killed billions.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
The description of him is like, okay, and?
Number 10, Superman Prime.
I thought Barry Allen ran so fast, he just died.
He outran the Black Racer.
Or something.
They turned into a skeleton.
Yeah.
And burned up.
Just fucking hit him.
He should have been going through pizza places or something, getting more food as he's running.
Number 10, we have Superman Prime 1 million.
Superman Prime 1 million.
Holy shit.
Superman may be the most powerful superhero on Earth, however, the Kryptonian is nothing
compared to his cosmic entities in the DC universe.
Nevertheless, there isn't an alternate version of Superman that can compete with the gods.
He is the Superman of Earth-
Wait, he can already compete with the gods in a normal state.
This is beyond, like, this is competing with the actual, like, ethereal forms of the god.
He is the Superman of the 853rd century, also known as Superman Prime 1 million.
Old as fuck.
What if, okay, what if, okay, he's old, right?
And he takes forever to age, right?
What if he's that form of him, right?
Looks like Eustace from Cowherty's and Cowherty Dog.
Just old as fuck looking, but he's still powerful.
Well, he doesn't look old.
That's what I'm saying.
It'd be hilarious.
He looks like Eustace.
Like, what's your offer?
The Superman apparently left Earth after he watched all his friends and family die.
He traveled the entire DC universe and even reached the realms of heaven and hell.
He then spent 15,000 years inside of a yellow sun absorbing its energy.
When he finally emerged, he was completely golden.
His already impressive powers like super strength, speed, and vulnerability, heat vision were
magnified to nearly infinite levels.
He also gained even more abilities during his time in the sun.
He manages basically to be able to resurrect Lois Lane at one point.
I want to get that.
I want to get him some peace.
After all this 15,000 years, he still brought back Lois.
Like, yo girl, what's up?
Man, she must have had that good.
15,000 years.
He's simple for that long.
He was willing to hold out for 15,000 years just to get the-
Then he's like, I can bring her back to life.
One of those viscous innards I battle.
Jesus.
Superman's a dog.
Next up from that, we have the endless.
The endless is a family of seven very powerful beings.
The group appears in the Sandman comics.
They represent the abstract concepts of destiny, death, dream, destruction, desire, despair,
and delirium.
Their exact origins are unknown.
However, the endless are supposedly the children of time and night.
It is believed that they existed since the dawn of time.
They are some of the most powerful beings in the entire universe.
However, the endless are different from gods.
They are natural forces or physical embodiments of aspects of the universe.
They existed before gods and other supernatural beings.
The family of seven might even be more powerful than the gods within the DC universe.
Each member of the endless has its own realm where they have absolute power and sovereignty.
Also one thing that they don't add on this, but every being of the endless also controls
the opposite of their name.
Destiny is free will, death is life, dream is nightmare, every one of them also controls
the opposite.
But apparently they don't want to describe that.
So that's all right.
It was three in the morning.
They couldn't have anymore.
Next up we have Dr. Manhattan.
Dr. Manhattan, just fucking blue dick swinging.
DC rebirth has brought the characters from the series Watchmen into the main DC universe.
This included Dr. Manhattan, one of the most powerful beings in existence.
Dr. Jonathan Osterman was once a nuclear physicist.
He was trapped in a radioactive particle test.
The force of the generator tore him to pieces and vaporized him.
He appeared to be dead.
However, he was actually taken outside the physical realm and later returned with power
so strong they were basically godlike.
Dr. Manhattan has the ability to control all matter at a subatomic level.
He is also clairvoyant, experienced time in a nonlinear quantum fashion.
On top of that, he also has super strength, telekinesis and the ability to teleport himself
over planetary and interplanetary distances.
Super strong basically.
And he was able to fuck with the entire DC universe.
Next up we have Eclipso.
Eclipso is that high up?
Damn.
Eclipso is the embodiment of the Abrahamic gods wrath.
He is a magical being of nearly unlimited strength though it is still nothing compared
to his creators.
He has the ability to fly, emit death rays of dark light from his left eye, and emit
a paralyzing ray of black light from his right eye.
Eclipso is immortal and invulnerable and also enhances speed, strength and intelligence.
He also is a master swordsman and wields an unbreakable sword.
Eclipso is tasked to punish the wicked.
He caused a great flood that destroyed the entire world except for Noah's Ark.
However, he became evil and was stripped of his rank by God.
He is eventually replaced by another one of God's creations, the Spectre, who represents
divine vengeance rather than wrath.
The more you know.
That explains why the Eclipso tried to manipulate Spectre during the day of vengeance series.
He didn't really like him too.
He's like, you motherfucker, you took my spot within the hierarchy.
If I take a female form I'll never know but whatever.
He possessed a female form anyway.
Still a dude.
Let's not get into the political part of that right now because.
I wonder, does he be messing with those titties all the time?
That's probably what he did.
Grabbing his own tits.
Probably.
Is that what you would do if you had that?
Sit there and play with them.
As fat as I am I have them now.
So now.
A solid D cup.
We can get you one of those bros.
Not a brawl but a bro.
Not the brawl but the bro.
Number six we have the Decreator.
The Decreator is a cosmic entity that has the ability to make things disappear from
existence.
You don't exist.
I had that but you don't exist.
It is the shadow of God.
The Decreator was born when God was making the universe and uttered the phrase, let there
be light, which created the first shadow.
The Decreator represented by a giant bloodshot eye is a force of pure destruction.
Jesus Christ.
It has no sense of morality, no personality and no emotions.
It cannot be reasoned with nor can it be truly defeated.
The Decreator.
Is that Karen?
Yeah pretty much.
Can't be destroyed or defeated.
Or reasoned with.
Office.
Terrific.
Members of the DC superhero team the Doom Patrol were able to slow it down.
Down the rate at which it destroys existence.
But the Decreator continues to silently erase things out of existence but does so so slowly
that humanity does not notice it.
That would be wild.
You know I'll give you this one for free DC.
They do a wide long year long maybe like two year long mini series but not a secret mini
series where everyone thinks there's no big event coming for DC right?
But that character takes little by little.
Little by little.
And then like for some magic you know they keep like they'll have all these series right?
Like oh you got issue 17 of the Flash and then all of a sudden they drop the Flash issue
18 and they start talking about the Flash.
And then they start talking about you know this and that and like little by little right?
Well they probably have to be more subtle than that.
Yeah.
They'll be like more small characters than like a big one.
And then finally you find out oh Batman or something.
Probably Batman because Batman's like always like I knew it was him.
I know it was everybody.
His plan starts just going away slowly.
What the hell?
Like maybe he'll ask Alfred something right and he'd be like who's that Master Bruce?
And he's like what?
What do you mean who's that?
I'm losing my memory.
And then it comes out to be the D creator.
Right and then like yeah like then the mini series starts and like that would be fucking
wild if nobody knew what was happening right?
But they won't do anything like that.
Yeah they will.
They got the balls for it.
It's DC.
They're not going to do anything like that.
Little by little just like first it'll be like a town in DC.
Then it'll be like a character, a miniscule character.
And then this and that.
And then you don't tell the fans.
Where you could stop talking about Bloodhaven.
Right like little by little.
Little by little.
Maybe you'll make it prominent at the beginning and then gone.
And then everybody's like this is getting weird.
Like I haven't heard about you know this and that for a while.
And then all of a sudden there it is.
And then if they go back and check the specific panels they'll see stuff they didn't notice
before.
It's fucking beautiful.
See but again DC doesn't have that kind of creativity now.
I just gave it to them for free.
They don't care.
They don't want it for free.
No they'll take it.
Yeah this is all our idea.
I don't care.
I can prove it's mine.
Just making good content.
Next up from that we have the Spectre.
The presence aka the main character.
The presence aka the main god of the DC universe created a cosmic entity that represents his
divine vengeance rather than his wrath.
This entity is also known as the Spectre.
The Spectre uses his divine powers including the ability to manipulate time and space and
control all matter to punish the wicked.
The force behind the Spectre was created by Aztar, a demon who returned to heaven and
confessed to sins.
The Spectre force must bond to a human soul in order to judge wickedness fairly.
Three humans have been the Spectre.
James Corgan, Hal Jordan, and Crispus Allen.
The Spectre's power is vast however it is not limitless.
He does not have the power to do whatever he pleases.
His power is limited by the voice of god and divine law.
But he can basically do almost anything else that he wants.
That god dang red tape.
If only I could get past that red tape.
Yeah but that red tape is pretty far out there because he was able to destroy all magic.
He did quite a lot of stuff yeah.
Destroy the current age of magic.
Through a fucking rock of magic on earth.
So here you go.
So it takes a lot for that red tape to show up.
Next up we have Lucifer Morningstar.
I guess who's next?
Lucifer Morningstar is a nigh omniscient.
Are we going from highest to lowest or?
Top backwards.
So we're going from lowest to highest?
Jesus.
Lucifer is pretty high up here.
God dang.
He's number four.
So number what is it?
Number two is Batman.
Number one is Batman with prep time.
Exactly.
I've seen a lot of polls that do that.
It's like he beats everybody with prep time.
How much prep time you need?
As much as he wants.
Just sitting there.
I don't know what about giving him like a bigger bulky feel like I need prep time.
Big ass Batman.
Like six foot nine.
Just putting on a tiny ass computer.
One of those little palm pilots.
Yeah.
Just don't want to type it.
That'd be the weirdest shit.
You funny as hell.
Lucifer Morningstar is a nigh omniscient divine being.
The character is loosely based on Lucifer of the Abrahamic scriptures.
Oh is he?
I had no idea.
He's an archangel and the son of the presence.
DC's version of God.
When Lucifer rebelled against the kingdom of heaven, he was cast out and sent to rule
over hell.
After ruling over the demons and damned souls of the domain for countless years, he eventually
grew bored, abandoned hell, and retired to earth in Los Angeles.
He's like Deuces bros.
Lucifer's power is only matched by his brother and is only exceeded by his father and his
daughter.
Or his, sorry, his niece.
While Michael represents the power of God, Lucifer represents God's will.
Lucifer can shape matter into anything he desires.
However, unlike his brother and father, he cannot create anything out of nothing.
But he can basically alter it however he wants.
If he's second only to them.
Second only to them and his niece.
What about all these other beings that are still like a lot of labs aren't they?
Number four.
Okay.
Like I said, this is the slightly older hierarchy.
So they've tried to change some shit now, which is annoying.
Apart from that we have Michael Demurgos.
Michael is the DC counterpart of the Archangel Michael.
He is the son of DC's version of God, the presence.
As an angel, he has enhanced strength, speed, stamina, agility, and the ability to fly.
On top of that, his father grants him the dunamis demurgos.
Dunamis demurgos, the power of God.
He is also immortal, though another divine being can seriously injure or kill him.
Michael is nigh omnipotent.
He is supposedly the second most powerful being in the entire universe right after his
father.
He has managed to defeat beings such as the specter.
However his brother Lucifer also matches him in power.
Michael has the power to create anything from nothing.
He does not have the power to give it shape though.
He would just basically need his brother's powers to do it.
So whenever basically the presence came into existence, when he created the two of them,
he created one to create stuff, one to shape it.
I hate that weird thing to do.
Little bit.
Number two is a little controversial, but it makes more sense at number two.
We have Elaine Bellic.
Elaine Bellic.
Elaine Bellic is the daughter of Archangel Michael.
This makes her the half angel and a direct descendant of God.
When her father's die, she absorbs his power and gains the dunamis.
The dunamis maximus.
Yeah, AKA the power of God.
She then takes over for the presence, the main God of the DC universe that rules over
creation and assumes the throne of God.
From this point on, she has stated to be the most powerful being in the universe.
She is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent.
She has the same powers as the presence and Archangel Michael.
However, she has much less experience.
She has to discover many of her powers on her own and Elaine designed to always fully
comprehend her powers and does not have the complete control over the ability that she
inherited from Michael.
So that's why she'd technically be higher than Lucifer and Michael because she's the
new God basically, since she took over that ability.
And then we have number one, the presence.
I was like a Batman, Batman, but most people would try to probably put Batman at number
one.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit, but no, it's, uh, it's the presence, uh, in the history
of the DC universe, the presence is the ultimate creator.
The source of all things often presented as a fictionalized counterpart to the God of
the Abrahamic religions.
In particular, he is often given Christian, Christian attributes.
However, the religious cosmology of the omniverse is complex with many pathogens of gods coexisting
alongside of each other within the DC universe.
It includes elements from multiple religions, mythologies, and modern concepts such as the
endless.
The presence has taken numerous forms throughout the history and has many aspects, including
the voice, the hand, and the source.
Some of the names that he has went by within the DC universe.
We have Yahweh, the source, Elohim, Hashim, the creator, the Lord, master programmer,
one above all, the one overall, Jehovah, Allah, Tetragrammaton, and the light.
He's went by a lot of names within DC universe.
No one's ever asked him his real name though.
What's funny is that the picture of him is with the bowler hat.
Oh God.
Where he's a little old man.
Before existence, there was only a great darkness, a single black indefinitude.
Within that darkness, however, a single burning light was born.
As it grew, the darkness screamed, resulting in an imperceivable flaw in the once immaculate
perception of the light.
And in that moment, the cosmos was born.
As the voice, the light created the word and the omniverse.
In the process, it wrote its divine name into all creation on a sub molecular level, making
the light present in all things.
And this was taken up by, what was it?
And brightest day and darkest night series from the green lantern series.
And brightest day and brightest night.
But there's the life entity, which is within all things in the DC universe.
So that took part of that whole thing into it.
I tried to remember the other lantern nail ones.
I don't remember any of them anymore.
You don't remember the other colors or the other names?
The other name, the other chance, I guess, for the other nail colors.
It used to be awesome.
Yeah, they each had their own.
Yeah.
Everybody remembers in brightest day.
Even the black ranger or the black ranger.
Even the black green lantern.
Even the black lanterns had one.
Yeah.
Was it?
Then there was the white lantern over here, licking Thomas Wayne's skull.
Necron.
Yeah.
I'm like, you nasty son of a bitch.
The nasty shit I've ever seen.
All right.
The Abrahamic cosmology, his first living creation.
When I was at Bruce Wayne's school, he was looking.
Shit, I can't remember.
He was looking at some school like a fucking freak.
I don't remember which one it was.
Delicious hat.
I just imagine what he would say.
It might have been Bruce.
Sticking it right in his eye hole.
Give me give people nightmares.
He actually gave me nightmares.
It was so fucking graphically drawn.
Fucking slobbering.
Wasn't that the black hand too?
The black hand.
That was that guy.
Yeah.
That was the dude doing the licking.
I thought it was Necron, the demon.
No, was that weird?
It was that really terrible villain that used to just mess with green lantern and then he
just became, they gave him a really dark backstory if I remember.
He killed his family or something.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
He had that black little ring just came up and he's like, yeah, I'll choose you.
He's like, oh cool.
Let me go lick Bruce Wayne's skull for some reason.
Until Kyle Rayner of the White Lanterns destroyed them all.
I think so, did he?
I'm pretty sure.
It's been a long time since I've read it though.
Yeah.
All right.
His first living creation was the first of the fallen.
Created by his companion, created to be his companion and the embodiment of his consciousness.
His next creations were, can't even talk, Samuel, Michael and Gabriel, the most powerful
of the Celestials.
He gave Michael the power to create doll matter, Samuel the power to bring it to life and Gabriel
the power to put laws upon it.
You think I'm a lawyer?
Basically.
God also created the gins alongside the angels, but differ from-
The alcoholic beverage?
I'm not fucking with you.
He's like, huh?
What the hell are you talking about?
The gins.
Yes, he created all the alcohols in the world.
But differ from them in nature.
While angels were created from light, the gins were created from smokeless fire.
As the source, he sent the hands-
So you sent them hands, huh?
You knew damn well I was going to-
I knew what you were going to look at me for that.
Out into the greater Overvoid, where they were tasked with creating new multiversal
systems using seven connective energies.
After the creation of their multiverse, each member of the hand would pass and allow their
energies to return to the source of all things.
However, one amongst their number, Perpetua, which is one grade lower in this new system
of DC comics, she refused.
She built a vicious predatory multiverse, one locked in a never-ending cycle of crisis
and rebirth.
So it's almost like-
A regular DC universe.
Her children, however, betrayed her and she was imprisoned within the source wall, which
is part of the new gods and apocalypse and all that stuff.
Her flawed predatory multiverse was made to restart.
So we've had multiple restarts in the DC universe here.
As the source, the presence became bonded to a living- excuse me, became bonded to a
being of unknown provenance known as the Mother Entity.
The Mother Entity is basically what all the new gods use in that Mother Box, what they
all have.
It's actually something?
Yes.
So it's just high level technology.
No, apparently it actually connects to a Mother Entity, like an actual entity.
Through their connection, though their connection was not marriage in any traditional sense,
the Mother Entity is considered to be the source's bride.
The Mother Entity is the energy tapped into by the Mother Boxes of the fourth world.
Zeus of Mount Olympus supposed that through the manifestation of the source, he birthed
Urgrund, the vast and unknowable realm of the old gods.
When Urgrund shattered, it cast a Godwave through the cosmos, seeding the fabric of
the multiverse with the potential for godhood.
First born of the Godwave were the beings of apocalypse and new genesis.
As the Godwave moved through the cosmos, the second born pantheons, like the gods of Olympus,
arose.
According to the Orisha Orunmila, one of the many faces he wore was Mawu, creator god
of the Dahomey peoples.
We move into the rebellion.
When the first of the fallen came to believe that God was crazy, God banished him from
heaven and cast him into hell.
The first became Satan, and was the first of many others who would fall.
When the rogue guardian Krona traveled back in time, he witnessed a great hand shaping
and creating the multiverse.
Some believed this to be the hand of the presence.
God also created Adam and Lilith, ostensibly the first two human beings, and made them
inhabit the Garden of Eden.
But when Lilith rebelled, he banished her and created Eve instead.
Eventually, the Jens also rebelled under the leadership of Elias, the devil himself, but
he punished them by making them subjugated to the will of humanity.
Damn, we gotta keep giving wishes.
That's why all the Jens have to grant wishes.
He punished them by it.
It reminds me of this guy that came into my store and he bought one of those prepaid cards.
Have I talked about this on the Vishon podcast?
I think so.
Where he was wanting to do a return for the card.
He didn't want the card because he had to register it online.
He had to put his name, number, address, right?
And so he was arguing with the person on the phone with the help desk of that card.
And the card guy was like, well, we can give you a refund.
We just need your name, number, and address.
Either way.
You're giving your name, number, and address?
I was like, man, I got him.
That's what he did to the Jens.
We don't want to grant wishes.
Okay, you're gonna fucking grant wishes?
All right, then.
All you gotta do is grant wishes then.
In the meantime, God began to speak to the host only in the form of the presence.
Only heard and never seen.
And some of his angels began to doubt his decisions.
In part because of what happened to Lilith.
Eventually, Samael led a rebellion against the presence, convincing many of his brothers
to write their own destiny.
God did not participate in the battle, but neither did he approve of violence among his
children.
So Michael gathered several faithful angels and fought against Samael and his followers,
who were eventually defeated and thrown into hell.
Believing that Samael, who was now calling himself Lucifer, would have been happier away
from him, God entrusted him with the government of hell, already foreseen that basically this
would happen.
That there was gonna be a rebellion.
As expected, Lucifer entered the Garden of Eden and tricked Adam and Eve into their exile
from paradise onto earth.
Now we have the new earth.
This is the next part of this is just how fucking strong the presence is.
It's like creator of everything.
But that was what God wanted.
He wanted humanity to become mortal.
Because now humans were mortal and had free will, being able to shape their own destinies,
choosing to virtue or sin, good or bad.
With rebellion and sin, the concept of justice was also born.
And some celestial beings, first Eclipso and then the Spectre, that became the personification
of God's wrath and vengeance respectively.
Eons later, faithful angels like Zoriel and the rebels like Osmodel, redeemed demons like
Etrigan and corrupted like Neron, which is part of the Blackest Day series.
They all played their roles in their eternal lives, but also mortals who contributed for
each action to the great project.
God also created Jesus of Nazareth, Kofiq.
So he did it in the Bible, he did it in DC.
Jesus is in DC Comics.
That his teachings started the religion of Christianity.
The disembodied voice of God spoke to and empowered Jim Corrigan with the Spectre.
God answered Spectre's prayers and resurrected the murdered justice society.
The voice of God is the primary force responsible for Spectre's powers specifically.
The hand of God was seen by Swamp Thing, Dead Man, and the Phantom of Stranger when heaven
was threatened by the return of the original darkness.
The presence also commands the allegiance of the host of angels, including Zoriel.
Lucifer continued to try to escape from God's plan, which eventually abandoned his place
in Hell and entrusted him to Dream of the Endless, and began to roam the Earth in his
new rebellion.
It's like, you know what, you fucking want to be in Hell, I'll do what I want to do.
It's still part of God's plan, so it's still fucked with him.
Zoriel organized an auction between gods and demons to find a new Lord of Hell, but God
ordered...
They hold an election.
An auction?
It seems like they're going to get the pick?
No, he organized an auction.
But what?
Who wants the key to Hell?
An auction?
I go with an election.
The most corrupted thing in human creation.
But before that could happen, God ordered two angels.
An auction basically is an election.
Who's got more money?
Yeah, never mind.
It's perfect.
He sent two angels, Remiel and Duma, to take possession of Hell on his behalf, an authority
that overcame that of all other auctioneers.
I got a billion dollars.
It's like, well, I created everything, so here you're taking it.
You know, that pissed them off.
Two billion dollars.
Later, God gave his wayward son a letter of passage out of creation in exchange for a
task that any of his other angels could have done.
So he arranged for even faithful Michael to be expelled from Heaven, and eventually he
disappeared, abandoning his tower in the Silver City, with his name beginning to disappear
from all atoms of creation, a condition that could only end with its dissolution.
When God appears in physical form, he sometimes presents himself as a gentleman wearing a
bowler hat, dark suit, umbrella, and a gray mustache.
Then we move on to Prime Earth.
In the midst of the nearing end of the universe, God sent Mary Seward down as a ghost to kill
both Lilith and Cain.
Lilith was forced back to Hell by the closing of the port.
Cain, the professional wrestler?
The Undertaker.
He sent a boat down there.
Stuns her women ass.
Transforming Tig back into a proper self in the process, the presence cursed the Herald
Shraw to reincarnate across space and time alongside Qatar, Deathbringer, as she decided
to save him by reaching out and making herself visible to him despite the great slaughter
he committed.
After She-Ra Thal and Carter Hall died, they awoke in the sphere of the gods, reverted
to Qatar and Shraw.
So basically those are the two characters that become a Hawkman and Hawkgirl.
Thank you, Brother Recting.
The presence explains that Qatar's debt is repaid and offers to allow him to pass on
and to restore Shraw.
However, they do not wish to be parted, so the presence offers them another reward, to
be reincarnated at final time in their favorite lives.
And they agreed to be restored to life in the 1940s as the Golden Age mortals, Hawkman
and Hawkgirl.
1940s?
Jeez, that's a lot of times.
The presence is the creator of the Council of Eternity, a circle of ancient wizards based
out of the Rock of Eternity that oversaw and defended the ancient world, judging the
guilty for their sins until they were betrayed and wiped out by Teth Atom.
The only survivor of the Council was Mamaragon who exiled Teth, naming him Black Atom.
So now we also have the aspects of the presence.
So the Supreme takes many forms, while many are analogous to the Abrahamic God, this is
not universally true.
So he takes on the form of the Light, a primordial aspect of the One Above All, dating back to
the moment of creation.
Through interaction with the darkness, the Light, once an immaculate and infinite whiteness
without flaw, became part of the first narrative and created within itself a story.
So it's basically that once large, pure, perfect Light, basically that's where all Light stories
started taking place, in the darkness.
By the way, DC makes a little other comic book ideas.
They legit have a Light just somewhere.
And then he can also take on the form of the Source, which is the New God's interpretation
of him.
The Great Energy Binding Creation, the Source is responsible for the power behind creation.
Much of the underlying architecture of the cosmos was forged by the Source, which sent
the It's Hands into the Overvoid, in order to create new multiversal systems, places
where new stories might grow and thrive.
He also had the Hand of Fire, a form used by the Source to communicate with the New
Gods and, occasionally, those connected with them, like Superman and, in one situation,
Renee Montoya.
Renee Montoya?
You remember her?
Yeah, of all the people.
It's like, here's the fiery hand, bitch, you want to slap with these hands?
It's a random detective in Gotham.
A little bit.
So basically, I guess she got to talk to Gotham.
Cool.
Must be nice.
What are you guys talking about?
Hey, what's up?
Why am I here?
I wouldn't get away.
I know why I'm here.
I'm like, why are you here?
And lastly, about the presence himself, we have his powers.
So basically, he has, obviously, God says he's got a physiology.
So he's divine entity of infinite power.
He's got omnipotence.
He's the source of all creation, dimensional travel, immortality, metamorphosis.
So he can basically be, he can show up looking like anything or anyone.
They're doing way too much.
This is what I would have been my description, right?
What is it?
The presence powers?
It's like, it's God and God.
They went into depth.
Why?
There's not, it's redundant.
If it's God, that means it's supposed to be the most all powerful being of all time.
So nothing above them.
So there's no reason to be like, he's got super strength.
He can see through walls.
He got, yeah, yeah.
All you have to do is say omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresent.
There you go.
He's got it all.
And there's also layers.
So when you look at the original, the map of the multiverse during the new 52, and they
kind of going into some of the newer series because they, they basically adopted a lot
of this stuff into the new series of DC.
You start off where you have the, the orrery of worlds.
So you have the multiverse itself, like the little planets and stuff like that.
You go up from there, you have the frequencies of, I'm not going to try to pronounce it.
It's KWYZZ.
Basically.
KWYZZ.
Dallas quiz.
I said the quiz with me.
KWY.
KWYZZ.
Cucumber.
It's basically a radio universe home of the crocky, the defender.
What the fuck is that?
Your guess is as good as mine.
I haven't read that far into it.
From there you have the speed force.
The speed force basically encompasses the speed force.
It encompasses the orrery of worlds.
So it's like that it's above, like if you're a person like Superman or like even the flash,
you may be able to use it and get to it, but you can't go past that.
It's basically the speed of light.
You can, unless you're teleporting, you can't.
I thought the flash did go past it.
That's why he fucked up and made the flash point.
Yes.
But like he couldn't go into the universe past that.
It's speed force.
Then you have a wonder world.
Basically it's an orbiting creation itself and unimaginable velocities.
Wonder world is the world quarters of the long lost theocracy, a team of stupendous
primal superheroes.
Stupendous.
Then we have the underworld that's in the realm above that.
Then we have a...
How do you have something called the underworld above something else?
Yeah.
The very definition is underworld.
I guess it's not above.
It's like in a higher dimension, I guess is what you'd call it.
So you have a couple of things that are within this higher dimension and they're all basically
within the same scope or the same sphere of reality.
You have the underworld.
You have dream where dream stays.
My dreams are fucked up sometimes.
You have hell.
You have dying mare.
You have the sky land, new Genesis, heaven and hell.
Those are all within the same level of reality.
Plain reality?
Yeah.
So all those be considered within the same sphere basically.
Then that's all technically within a sphere called the sphere of gods.
So the abstract form of beings and stuff like that would live within this sphere.
Up from that in the reality itself, you have limbo.
Limbo.
Limbo is basically the home of the lost and forgotten of the orrery.
Limbo is the furthest edge of the manifest DC universe.
This is where matter and memory break down.
So concepts, everything.
It's where that one eyeball lives, probably.
The D creator.
Yeah.
From there you have the monitor sphere.
The monitor sphere is above all.
That would be perfect.
They end the series with just two comic books.
Just Batman and Superman.
And then they start realizing something's really off lately.
And that's when you set up the mini series.
That would be a good idea though.
They're trying to bring back.
So yeah, you start off with all these different comic books and then you slowly whittle them
down just two.
And then you end up with Batman, Superman.
Yeah.
I wish you could always do the Trinity too.
So you could always have Wonder Woman.
Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman.
And then something happened.
They're like, wait, this is this something's wrong.
I've been missing people.
There's there's him.
That would actually kind of be cool though.
They just won't do it.
You're welcome DC.
My god dang creative genius.
And then the last two levels within the map of the multiverse anyway, we have the source
wall.
So literally nothing can go past the source wall aside from the source or the presence
and Batman would prep time.
Exactly.
He'd probably been out there several times, which is just crazy.
We also have a description of some of these realms.
We have the Aurary worlds.
That's the main 52 universe enclosed by the bulk of the bleed that the Green Lanterns
like Kyle Rayner and a few of the other ones could do actually travel through the frequency
of quiz.
It's a radio universe home to crackle the defender, the speed force wall.
This is the place where the speed force lies.
We have the underworld, which is the home of the gods that rule from a different religion
apocalypse, which is the realm of dark side opposite to new Genesis hell, the fiery torment
of hell lords in the place of eternal damnation nightmare.
The shadow of the dreaming cast upon the darkest dreams sky land home of the old gods.
So that's like Zeus and all the other pantheons, a new Genesis home of the new gods, heaven,
the paradise, silver city, the word home of the angels and divine beings dream the place
that's absent of reality home of dream of the endless limbo.
This is the land of retcon to those who are forgotten and those who are yet to be a little
retcon.
Yeah, that's where it goes, huh?
Yep.
Okay, limbo, monitor sphere, the dwelling place of the monitors and the source wall.
The wallet is the outermost part of creation.
Nothing goes past this.
And then you have the, uh, the over void, which is where the presence it's basically
the blank page of comics.
Man, I'd hate to live in that universe.
I don't have any DCS guy had to be a regular human.
I live my day to lay life knowing damn well there's something that should always go.
It's going down and literally it's in places that you'll never be able to comprehend or
see probably like, man, you want to go to the movies tomorrow?
I don't know.
Is it going to zoom?
I got a bus right through fighting dark side.
What I find funny though is that there's also a scale that was put out and it kind of throws
everything else off a little bit because you have a, you have one, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight classes, but there's not that many within each class.
So you have, uh, from top to bottom, you are now I'll start from bottom to top.
You have minor dimensional characters.
So that's like the green Lantern corpse or the captain America or kept the captain Adams.
So they can, um, they can affect dimension stuff.
You have up from that, the major dimensional, which is a, the green, like the swamp thing,
you have the demon Etrigan or Zario the angel.
So that we can affect things within dimensional times.
You have a minor universal, so you have people like, um, the emotional spectrum entities
like a parallax, uh, ion, all those others, um, Merlin, but they're drawing power from
those entities.
Okay.
So the entities are higher within that list.
So that does make some sense.
Uh, the Lords in, uh, of chaos and order, phantom stranger, uh, guardians of the universe,
um, the wizards of eternity and stuff like that, uh, from that you have major universal,
which is Trigon high father, the specter, Trigon.
That was quite the character in teen Titans for sure.
Uh, dark side eclipse though.
But then we go into minor multiversal so they can affect multiverses and not just single
universe.
Uh, Lucifer, the endless anti-monitor over monitor, uh, the world forger, the empty hand
and imperiax, which I haven't heard in period in a long time.
It was an old character.
I remember him at all.
The early 2000, uh, from that, which is it, according to the, to this list, they put Lucifer
within the minor multiversal, but they put characters above him.
Even though he's technically like, if you're only going by, uh, the original list, he'd
be third or tied for third anyway.
Uh, but they classified to, they classify five beans above that.
Uh, we have a major multiversal, the blue brother of the DC comics.
So that's the, whenever they had that crossover of the amalgam series, the blue and the, uh,
the red, the two brothers.
And then we have the ultra monitor because you know, we're, we're playing Digimon here
going mega and then we have minor metaversal, which I don't know why they classify these
above Lucifer because it doesn't make too much sense.
And they classify it also above Michael, which doesn't make any sense.
Cause if they're like direct people below the presence and the presence is the strongest,
it doesn't make a lot of sense.
But minor metaversal, we have the judges of the source, uh, perpetual, the one that, uh,
fucked with the entire.
So, and then we have access axle, axle, axle Asher, the one that kept the two brothers from
fighting.
I don't know how they classify that about any of this.
Hey man, they stopped.
Hey, no, Hey, Hey, both of you know,
Axel, Axel Asher.
We all know Stanley has something to do with that.
Probably.
And then they classify at the very highest, the major metaversal, the overvoid, which
is basically the blank paper that DC exists on and then the source.
Cool.
Those two do make sense, but you'd have to move up Michael and Lucifer to the minor metaversal.
There's like second tier down from the top.
But again, like I said, a lot of it's up to, um, opinion on a lot of these cause you can
find reasons for different characters to be at the very highest or the very lowest.
It just like, you know, there's gonna be a bunch of people that is like, well, Batman
with prep time.
Here it is.
Here's my prayer.
Here's my theory right here.
The presence is really just Superman.
A billion years old, the deal, the entire universe is gone.
Right?
The darkness is overtaken the universe again and he gives up his life to read, reignite
the universe.
Done.
God dang.
I'm amazing.
Sadly, does that not make sense?
It makes more sense than what they have going on in the comics.
Damn.
I'm good.
It's perfect.
Superman's pure light energy.
He'll, he'll outlive everybody.
He has this sword in himself.
Just takes over the universe again.
Boom.
Blows himself up.
I mean, look, after just what is a Superman one million.
So after, what was it?
He hooks up with Lois Lane one more time and then he kills himself.
A million years.
Still be banging Lois Lane.
I can see that too.
Man, she, he must, she must have that gold.
If you're going to wait that long for it.
15,000 years.
Jesus Christ.
It's like she died.
It's like, fuck it.
I'm going to sit in the sun.
Basically.
Yeah.
Like, man, I can't do this no more.
I'm sitting in the sun right now.
She had all that kind of goodness and now she's gone.
Wait a minute.
I can bring it back.
That's the only time he got it again is when he brought it back.
Basically.
That is everything that I've got on this.
Any questions?
Any last comments?
No.
Give me a hands.
My favorite part.
Just a hand.
The hands coming out.
Just just imagine a hand just sliding.
We're just giving out hands.
It would be funny.
Everybody.
You get these hands.
I knew what I read a couple of times.
It's like, oh, we're going to get the hang of it.
My God.
It's the hands again.
All right.
Well, we'll see you guys next time.