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The mic is hot and the game is on. You're listening

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to News for the Nation podcast by Aces Nation,

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where we talk about nutrition, sports performance,

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the journey of a student athlete, and more. I'm

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Claire. I'm Zach. Time to level up. Welcome back

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sports fans. Today we're talking about perspectives

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in youth sports. We're going to cover some topics

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that are based on our own experiences. our work,

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our research, and things we've heard from other

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coaches. We're really trying to highlight viewpoints,

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things to think about, issues that may arise,

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and then give our experience and our opinions

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behind that. So really, this is just about us

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expressing or shedding light on these areas that

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have come up in conversations, that have come

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up in research in different areas about how to

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support your kids as they go through youth sports,

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high school sports, college sports, like how

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to be, issues that may arise from a kid's perspective,

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from a parent's perspective, even through the

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coach's lens. As we go throughout sports, sports

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in the modern age with all this social media,

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all this. new money floating around to support

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it, even gambling at some point. I mean, they're

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now gambling on high school games. So there's

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an added level of pressure, expectations, disappointments,

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you know, setbacks because of many different

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things and just trying to shed light on how to

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be supportive and managing all these different

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things and whatnot. Tiana's already done some

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great work on this as well. So really looking

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forward to her insights here and then whatever

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I can provide in support of that. So Tiana, let's

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get started here. We said we're gonna start from

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the coach perspective because this is what we

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kind of hear and deal with from our clientele

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in the club organization and high school level.

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Yeah, one of the things that we hear often in

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meetings kind of within ACEs and from our CEO

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is a lot of times there's concern from coaches

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that we speak to or directors of clubs that they

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feel like there's expectations from parents that

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are placed on the players or athletes in their

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club that may be unrealistic for the players

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and a lot of times they're looking for ways to

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you know put down on paper kind of where they're

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coming from to show you know well here's how

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your athletes improving or here's how many times

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they've attended a practice and really put an

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effort versus you know maybe another kid that's

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getting more playing time or something so it

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kind of spurred this thought for me as to what

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From the coach perspective, we would love to

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see as parents in support of their athletes,

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the things they can do to help their athletes

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become better and maybe have a longer experience

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in their sport. Or maybe the things that we see

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that maybe are taking away from that athletes

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experience and leading to early burnout in that

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kid. So I just think, you know, there's there

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can be friction between coaches and parents or

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athletes and parents or any combination of these

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and I think everyone has a different perspective

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on this from each of those kind of buckets and

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everyone has some pros and cons to their stance

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and position but there are always things we can

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do to better support our athletes and this is

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just I think starting this coach perspective

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I'd like to hear kind of from Even from the college

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coach standpoint at this point for you, just

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day to day interacting with your athletes, what

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are some things that you would love to see your

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athletes coming to you supported at home in a

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certain way and kind of the athletes that show

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up consistently put in the work? What are they

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doing or getting from their families and then

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kind of the younger ages going down from there?

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What do you think parents can do to best? support

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their athletes to show up to you in a way that's

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going to be most productive. All right. I'll

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start off from the high school lens. I don't

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know if you know, but I started off my coaching

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career and I was actually had the chance to be

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a volunteer high school basketball coach. So

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I've actually worked in this area early on. And

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then I've seen different paths coming from this

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coach perspective. One of the things that I've

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seen videos on that have been viral, I've heard

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a lot of stories, or I hear people talking, like

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parents or something talking about it later or

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at a game, if I'm not coaching, is I definitely

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don't think it's healthy that parents would like

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bash the way that the coach is coaching to their

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kid right like maybe they don't agree with like

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the system that they're running or something

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in a particular sport or how they go about whatever

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it is in the sport now especially i would say

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especially if you're not a parent who is a coach

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or who understands maybe what the game plan and

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the rationale is behind if you've got the inside

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information then you probably are able to talk

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to the coach a little bit more directly in a

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personal manner. A lot of people doing in the

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stands talking probably have no idea what's going

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on. So and then they just bash that coach later

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on the drive home when they're at home when their

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kids are sitting watching the next game after

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and everyone's just like doing that right. I

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don't like that at all right like you can have

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an opinion like that was not good. That was bad.

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That's fine, but I Think you're injecting this

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negativity this criticism into your kids and

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then that's creating this visual represent like

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this mental representation of Who that coach

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is now and whether or not they're actually fully

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invested anymore, right? They probably have without

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you saying anything. They probably have their

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own Image of their place on the team their view

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of the coach, you know where all that stuff goes,

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right? They probably already have that without

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you. So for you to Change that or continue to

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evolve it in a negative way. I just I don't think

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helps their experience at all I don't think you're

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supporting them by saying Anything negative about

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what's happening there on the sidelines or whatnot?

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This is all assuming that this coach is a great

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human being and there's nothing else, you know,

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everything's all about the sport. Okay, so I

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think that for me that's one of the things that

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is just Fueling a really bad fire at that point,

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right? So we don't don't want anything to snowball

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or continue to get out of hand by you adding

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that in okay you should probably have a conversation

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with the coach yourself as an adult um yeah i

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can see that and that's one of those difficult

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ones with age too because by the time they get

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to high school you'd hope that that coach has

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like competency in that sport and is fulfilling

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their responsibilities as the coach because on

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the parent side it is really hard to see and

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You know, my kids are the oldest is eight. So

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we're talking about much younger athletes here

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and coaches that are just volunteering their

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time and may not have even done the sport. Uh,

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so they're, it does change kind of depending

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on the age group, because, you know, I see it

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in the, the younger kids. And sometimes if the

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coach is not. real into the sport is just doing

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it to help out. It can be so frustrating to see

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kind of how they're running things or what they're

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doing and just being like, oh, I really wish

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you'd just teach them some fundamentals and let

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them have some fun. So, yeah. I agree. And I

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think this, I mean, this is picking me back to

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conversations that we've had with some of our

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clients before. It's like, I think as a parent,

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you need to understand as much as you can about

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the situation and then manage your expectations.

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Because if you do have a younger child and they

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have a coach, that person is probably volunteering.

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They're not getting paid for that, right? You

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probably need to manage your expectations or

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move to a different place where that person is

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getting paid. I know we've talked to a lot of

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our club organizations. They've got so many teams

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and a lot of these coaches are, you know, willingly

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you know dedicating their time right if for you

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do not understand that be upset and i mean that's

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that's your right to be upset but maybe you should

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either figure out a way to support that coach

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so they're you know getting more poured into

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them from a sports perspective and then able

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to give that back to your children or I don't

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know maybe you go to another place or you manage

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your expectations. I know that there's a lot

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of stuff happening where these volunteer coaches

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have day jobs or whatever and then they're coming

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in here because they want to help your kids.

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You know and I don't think they need the extra

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pressure from you directly about like hey you're

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not doing a good job. So I think there's a lot

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of managing expectations that's happening with

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that stuff. I do think as your kids are younger,

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they should learn skills, right? It's not about,

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is it about winning? Yeah, it's about feeling

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good winning and understanding what helps you

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win and all those fundamental elements. They

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should learn skills and be able to do that. I

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know we're gonna get into parent stuff later,

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but yeah, I think it's about understanding I

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think as a parent like maybe what who that coach

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is what what their role is or you know how they

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even became that coach and then maybe you have

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other conversations up the road or maybe you

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just kind of uh you know here's a fun idea I

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had a strength coach tell uh at a conference

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one time give a speech and he was saying hey

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if if everyone's complaining about there's not

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research on this there's not research on that

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why don't you go research it Right. You go do

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whatever, you know, research the area that you

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want. Right. As a parent, you don't like the

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way it is. How about you volunteer to be a coach

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too? Right. Why don't you volunteer, be an assistant

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if you don't like the way everything's going.

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So I think that that may be an option for you

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as well. You're already going to be at the practice,

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right? If you want to make an impact, make a

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positive impact, why don't you volunteer to do

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it too? Um, so that may be an option too, but

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I think it's. being a supportive parent you know

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is maybe kind of understanding as much as you

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can about the situation because if they're in

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youth sports it's different if they're in high

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school it's different if they're in college you

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got you got nothing right unless you're number

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one donor for the entire school you got you got

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no say when they go to college right most of

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the time you in high school you shouldn't have

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a say anyway I mean, unless you're coaching,

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right? You really shouldn't have a say on what

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is happening from a tactical perspective. And

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if you sit back in that type of situation, you

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know, I'm picturing like high school football,

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for example. Most people, like you said, are

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not going to know what's going on, what the strategy

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is behind this, and they're going to think that

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their own child deserves. You know the most which

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is fine and that's great you should have confidence

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in your children but i guess i would challenge

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people to sit back and think about. What benefit

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that perspective would have if you're saying

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that your child and like you said kind of undermining

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the coaches strategy or coaching. Is that going

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to benefit the team as a whole? Is that going

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to help your child contribute to that team in

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a way that allows that team to win and get your

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child more exposure? Or is that going to then

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just lead to problems and issues amongst the

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team and poor performance from your kid anyway,

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which is obviously not going to help them achieve

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the goal of them playing more, doing better in

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the first place? Yeah, I agree. And kind of moving

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into that, that kid area there, I mean, why?

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Why would they even be playing that sport? You

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know, and is it because it's something that they

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like, something that they're doing for you, you

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know, as a parent? Or what is that? Or how do

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we support those kids who are actually the ones

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playing the sport, you know? So obviously not

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injecting these undermining comments and negativity

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about the person that they're playing for. And

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here's another thing, not doing that for the

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people they're playing with either, right? So

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I mean, you may say something about coaches,

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but also, you know, trying to be supportive of

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the collective as a team. So what are some, from

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your experience, as a parent here, how do you

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think that your kids want to be supported? Or

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how do you go about supporting your kids as they

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have started to play sports? Yeah, and like I

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said, my kids are young, so we're kind of just

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getting into this area. And we've got so many

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dynamics, you know, when it personally comes

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to me and my children, because they're playing

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soccer. They do jujitsu, which their father coaches

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them in. So that's another kind of dynamic to

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explore. We've got motocross, which also the

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father teaches them. So we're kind of exploring

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and starting to dip our toes into lots of different

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sports, but also trying to balance the not pushing

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our child to do something just because we do

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it or we would like to see them do it. So that's

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something where my you know, they've started

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to express some interest and track and obviously

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that's my bread and butter background all the

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way through college coaching. So that is exciting

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to me, but I also would never want to push them

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into the sport and then cause burnout and have

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them think, well, I just I'm doing this to impress

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mom or I'm doing this to show dad that I can

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do it and that I'm good at it or whatever that

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may be now. Given they have shown natural talent

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to some of these things just because it's in

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their blood, I guess. But I do like to see them

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kind of progress and and kind of take it, you

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know, step by step. So. We own a jujitsu gym

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so they get to be there all the time. They get

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to experience it. I have one child who loves

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to practice. He wants to be there every class.

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He wants to participate. And then I have another

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that kind of stands on the sideline and he's

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like here and there he'll jump in. But I know

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he's absorbing it as we go. So it may not be

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his thing right now, but it could. You know,

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by the time he's in middle school or high school,

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it could be his thing. He may decide that that's

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really what he wants to do. So I really try not

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to push as hard as that is. I would love to see

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him do it because he's talented, but I try to

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kind of take a step back there. So I think that's

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something to consider for parents when they're

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trying to be supportive is to think about. Why?

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I mean that why your kid wants to participate

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or doesn't want to participate and kind of what

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your expectations you're putting on them or and

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it does bring up. that kid perspective that you

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brought up earlier and when i think back to getting

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started in sports my dad was a sports guy and

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you know being the only daughter i just really

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wanted to do something that would impress him

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or you know feel connected to him in some way

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so sports was what i could do that really like

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got him excited so that's kind of what got me

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started and why i push so hard in those sports

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because i knew the more that i did like he was

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involved and he really liked to watch me so That's

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another thing to think about from the parent

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perspective but also the child to kind of consider

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You know am I doing the sport because I really

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like it or am I doing it to impress my parents

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and if that's the case Is it something that I

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want to do enough that I can continue doing it

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till I don't feel like it anymore? Or is this

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something that I really feel so much pressure

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to do just for acceptance like that's probably

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a conversation that needs to be had between parent

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and child Right. I mean talked about beginnings.

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I mean right or wrong. I I grew up Sports was

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playing on TV mostly in my household growing

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up But I remembered from what my parents tell

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me when I was very very young is that I didn't

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I wasn't necessarily like into sports Because

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I don't know. I mean kids are probably just into

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playing back then right so my parents they put

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me into sports which is which was good. I think

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it was a good exposure to have that stuff and

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um so I ended up playing college football but

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my first year of football I they said I hated

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it like I didn't like how hot it was I didn't

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like being sweaty like I hated it right that

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was my first year uh but then the next year I

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actually moved to a different position and I

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enjoyed it a little bit more and so really kind

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of took off from there and Basketball, I think

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I watched it was playing in my house growing

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up when I was younger probably more than any

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sport And so my mom loves Duke basketball, so

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we watched Duke basketball games all the time

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but Yeah, that was a sport that I really loved

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and I Think I liked basketball more than football

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As a kid And then I got older and I was actually,

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I found myself like, hey, I'm actually better

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at football. So I'm probably going to pursue

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that one because I think I can do more with it.

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But like, I'm going to be honest, maybe the first

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couple of years, I don't, I couldn't even tell

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you why I continue to play sports other than

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my parents took me there and paid for me to be

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in this league or whatever. But But later on,

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I really started to enjoy the friends that I

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had on the team. I enjoyed playing for different

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reasons, you know, whether it was like the physicality

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of football or I just liked I just liked basketball

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because maybe because it seemed to be something

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my family enjoyed. And, you know, we spent time

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observing it, either going to games or whatever.

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Fun fact, my parents, when they went on their

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first date, I was jake seven or something like

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that we went to a basketball game like a college

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basketball game it was there i think it was like

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one of their first dates and they took me and

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we went to a college basketball game so um it

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was awesome and so i but i i always felt supported

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like they i think they wanted me to play sports

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but uh but and i grew to love it so i wanted

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to as well so it didn't ever become like a i

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don't want to play this sport you know type of

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thing um yeah so i mean I always felt supported

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for like, hey, you know, we're gonna give you

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this foundation here of like whatever you need

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and, you know, try your best. Don't be a hooligan,

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you know, like treat people with respect while

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you're playing, you know, don't be like, whatever,

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this or that. Well, that's a unique balance that

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comes up, I think. From the parent perspective

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and the kid perspective a lot because you're

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trying to decide. When should i push my kid because

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i know that that's what they need just to like

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you said you played for maybe three years before

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you realize like okay i really you know there's

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something here i should continue this. Had your

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parents not continue to pay for and drive you

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there and kind of say okay well here we go we're

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going. what you have you know gotten to do all

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the things that you did so it's making that decision

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is this a push time is this a i need to give

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them. You know space to think this through type

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of situation because you know i had a lot of

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exposure as a kid to this is why i definitely

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feel supported in sports was. It was you know

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during summer time would be like well what camp

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do you want to try what sport do you want to

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try you want to swim you want. Try track do you

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wanna do a little cross country thing you wanna

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like my boys get to do sailing over the summer

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which is something that i never could have thought

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of but my mom you know the grandparents steps

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in and said hey let's try some sailing and some

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golf. So it's hard to decide like how hard to

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push those things my six year old tried soccer

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for the first time this year and he made it to

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probably two games and he was like meh this isn't

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really for me so. I, we talked about it and we

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continued to go and he had to support his team

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and he'd kind of get out there here and there,

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but you could tell he really wasn't into it yet.

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So I was like, okay, well we're going to finish

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the year, but then we're going to take a break.

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Like we'll give you some more time. Maybe it's

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just not time for you yet. Um, and then the difference

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now between when we were starting, I feel like

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it was your kids, your parents put the gear out

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there to get a little. build a little character

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have some fun and we're just talking kind of

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before i got on the recording about how much

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we feel like sports has changed for that age

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group where there's a lot of expectations financially

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it's a lot more expensive there's a lot of technology

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around everything in science around everything

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we're doing now so there's a lot of good that

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comes with that but there can also be a lot of.

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uh stress put on kids or expectations that maybe

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weren't there kind of when we were just exploring

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sports and checking things out see what like

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and what we didn't and there's a lot more that

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goes into that now that as a parent you have

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to consider and as the kid that's kind of put

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on you um that changes the dynamic of the sport

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itself yeah i mean that's such a interesting

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uh phenomena that's happening where it's like

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you're getting kids are getting more exposure

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um because of camps and whatever social media

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and stuff and and with that there comes more

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expectation on them every time that they are

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put out there in the spotlight right like it's

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great because you can have so many opportunities

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around you it's not like you're going to be pigeonholed

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into like five different opportunities for you

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to advance in your you know sports career It

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could be 20, you know, you've got all these different

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avenues for you to be successful as an athlete

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at many different levels of college or, you know,

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whatever that may be on any different pro circuits,

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you know, in whatever sport you have. But the

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pressure is there because I mean, you mentioned

00:24:07.059 --> 00:24:11.640
there's a financial burden to it as a parent.

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And it's like, I know we talked about return

00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:22.319
on investment earlier. it's like I don't know

00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.519
it kind of going back to why is your kid in sports

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so if you're like you really love baseball and

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that was your thing when you were a kid now you

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really want your kid to be good at baseball so

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you can brag about it or they could go get a

00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:39.059
full ride scholarship or you want them to get

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into the league or play professionally at some

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level and you're really pushing for that I mean

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You said you said at the beginning, you know,

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we talked about the kids like why did you put

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your why does your kid like that sport? why did

00:24:51.569 --> 00:24:55.269
you put your kid in that sport, right and If

00:24:55.269 --> 00:24:59.970
it's not because If at some point it doesn't

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evolve into I'm supporting my kid because they

00:25:03.170 --> 00:25:06.529
like this sport for them Then I don't know. I

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mean not telling people how to parent for sure

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But maybe it's good I think it's always good

00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:18.960
to reevaluate the core of, you know, why decisions

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are being made or, you know, why things are continuing

00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:26.940
to be pursued, right? It's never bad to reevaluate

00:25:26.940 --> 00:25:29.460
and reflect on things just so you make sure that

00:25:29.460 --> 00:25:33.079
you're in line with what you feel like or what

00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.500
your kid, your child is telling you is what they

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want, right? So to support them in all those

00:25:39.900 --> 00:25:42.140
manners, it's just, I mean there's there's a

00:25:42.140 --> 00:25:44.099
lot of pressure right everybody feels like as

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soon as you step on the field for a game day

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like even if it's at some local soccer tournament

00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:52.740
you're supposed to be the star you're supposed

00:25:52.740 --> 00:25:55.880
to go out there and five score five goals uh

00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:57.440
if you're the keeper you're not supposed to let

00:25:57.440 --> 00:25:59.859
anything come past you and you're supposed to

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be the most vocal person out there you know Yeah,

00:26:02.809 --> 00:26:05.990
like you said the pressure for college scholarship

00:26:05.990 --> 00:26:08.890
I think is one of the biggest ones because as

00:26:08.890 --> 00:26:10.849
soon as you see that your child might have some

00:26:10.849 --> 00:26:13.289
talent at something I think that's immediately

00:26:13.289 --> 00:26:15.730
what parents are thinking like oh, well, here's

00:26:15.730 --> 00:26:17.670
our opportunity Maybe we didn't have the money

00:26:17.670 --> 00:26:20.509
for them to go to this particular school or something

00:26:20.509 --> 00:26:24.190
and now maybe that opportunity is there so I

00:26:24.190 --> 00:26:27.369
think from the parental perspective that's where

00:26:27.369 --> 00:26:31.529
a lot of parents are kind of trying to push their

00:26:31.529 --> 00:26:35.109
kid to continue the sport because they can get

00:26:35.109 --> 00:26:39.190
that advantage from it. But I do see even pressure

00:26:39.190 --> 00:26:43.150
that comes in these young sports where, you know,

00:26:43.269 --> 00:26:44.950
I have one that's going to try baseball for the

00:26:44.950 --> 00:26:47.930
first time at eight years old. We're out here

00:26:47.930 --> 00:26:49.890
stressing out because he hasn't played and he's

00:26:49.890 --> 00:26:52.450
only eight years old. But it seems like everyone

00:26:52.450 --> 00:26:54.329
on these leagues has already played for three

00:26:54.329 --> 00:26:55.990
years, four years by the time they're eight years

00:26:55.990 --> 00:26:59.170
old already. So he's he's concerned like, I don't

00:26:59.170 --> 00:27:01.970
know how to play baseball yet. That's what you're

00:27:01.970 --> 00:27:03.630
there for. You're going to learn. They're going

00:27:03.630 --> 00:27:05.730
to coach you. Don't worry about it. You'll pick

00:27:05.730 --> 00:27:10.269
it up in no time and it'll be fine. So, yeah,

00:27:10.289 --> 00:27:12.450
it doesn't matter the age. I think there's pressure.

00:27:12.690 --> 00:27:15.930
It's just different. I mean, some of the some

00:27:15.930 --> 00:27:19.960
of the players in the nfl they didn't start playing

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.440
football until they were like late high school

00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.980
like so they had gone 17 you know 16 17 18 years

00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:29.559
without playing the sport and now they're in

00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.460
the nfl right like got the potential for it it's

00:27:32.460 --> 00:27:34.740
gonna happen right regardless of when you enter

00:27:34.740 --> 00:27:37.960
it so uh i think that's that's awesome that you

00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.000
know he's gonna make a new experience in a different

00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.680
sport because he wants to you know wants to try

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a demo. Let's go. I have seen examples of these

00:28:16.500 --> 00:28:20.039
parents that, that push really hard. Kind of

00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.759
the other extreme where it's hardly any input

00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.220
from the child, I think where they're like, well,

00:28:26.299 --> 00:28:27.920
this is the sport you're going to do. We're going

00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.779
to do it for the best of your ability and you're

00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:33.819
going to be the star. So the child starts to.

00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.220
take that on and think okay well this is my responsibility

00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:40.019
to make this happen and in this particular case

00:28:40.019 --> 00:28:42.680
it was a young girl who'd been in martial arts

00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.720
for her whole life and they were going to have

00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.619
her be the youngest MMA fighter once she was

00:28:48.619 --> 00:28:51.160
of age to get in the cage and have her first

00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.539
fight and so she was training you know training

00:28:54.539 --> 00:28:57.539
the same way the the adult fighters went where

00:28:57.539 --> 00:29:00.839
she was at multiple practices a day she was there

00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.170
every day of the week. trying to do everything

00:29:03.170 --> 00:29:06.990
she could and she was pushed and pushed and she

00:29:06.990 --> 00:29:08.589
made it all the way to that point when she had

00:29:08.589 --> 00:29:11.549
her first fight. She took it and then she quit

00:29:11.549 --> 00:29:14.829
the sport immediately after. So it was like she

00:29:14.829 --> 00:29:17.470
had been burnt out for so long that she had met

00:29:17.470 --> 00:29:20.309
that expectation and then said, I'm done. So

00:29:20.309 --> 00:29:23.930
thanks, but no thanks. And that's definitely

00:29:23.930 --> 00:29:26.009
not something you want to have happen to your

00:29:26.009 --> 00:29:28.089
child if they really did love the sport to begin

00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:30.710
with. And then they get pushed to the point where

00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:32.619
they don't want anything to do with it anymore.

00:29:32.660 --> 00:29:35.980
It's just sad to see. Right. Yeah, that is sad

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:38.859
to be pushed to that point where you just fall

00:29:38.859 --> 00:29:41.420
out of love with the sport that you initially

00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:45.319
really enjoyed. I want to go back to something

00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:49.019
else you said earlier about when kids start to

00:29:49.019 --> 00:29:51.759
show a little potential, like parents can get

00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:56.500
pretty excited about the potential for college

00:29:56.500 --> 00:30:00.000
scholarships. I'm going to go back to my personal

00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.500
experience. I understand people are different

00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:06.299
and, you know, their personalities and how they

00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:09.759
go about things is different. But I think when

00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:14.079
when I actually thought that I showed myself

00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.339
a little bit of potential to be good enough to

00:30:18.339 --> 00:30:21.660
play college football, I don't even be honest

00:30:21.660 --> 00:30:23.059
right now. I'm thinking about it right now. I

00:30:23.059 --> 00:30:27.160
don't even know if my parents ever said anything

00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:31.250
like Trying to nudge me in that direction. I

00:30:31.250 --> 00:30:34.069
I made that decision, right? I think I was like

00:30:34.069 --> 00:30:36.369
an eighth or ninth grade I was like, you know

00:30:36.369 --> 00:30:38.450
what? I think I could play football in college.

00:30:38.450 --> 00:30:40.150
I don't know if I'm good enough to play basketball

00:30:40.150 --> 00:30:42.569
in college I'm gonna focus on this and go all

00:30:42.569 --> 00:30:45.950
out for it and Nobody had to tell me that so

00:30:45.950 --> 00:30:49.049
really I mean support and my parents gave me

00:30:49.049 --> 00:30:52.869
was like I trained hard over the summer shirt.

00:30:52.869 --> 00:30:56.089
I mean they bought me new cleats that I needed

00:30:56.089 --> 00:30:59.509
each year for the season, bought me protein,

00:30:59.690 --> 00:31:01.869
brought me creatine, not to sound like a meathead,

00:31:01.869 --> 00:31:05.369
but then I would just train, train, train, train.

00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:09.890
And I'm very fortunate that it paid off for me

00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:12.569
and my parents did not have to pay for any of

00:31:12.569 --> 00:31:15.730
my college at all. So I'm very fortunate to have

00:31:15.730 --> 00:31:19.990
that happen. But it's just interesting that I

00:31:19.990 --> 00:31:22.549
never felt that pressure from them. I felt pressure

00:31:22.549 --> 00:31:25.410
from me. because I decided to do it and I wanted

00:31:25.410 --> 00:31:28.750
to go do it. And I had to make sure I was living

00:31:28.750 --> 00:31:31.630
up to what my expectations were. And I felt like

00:31:31.630 --> 00:31:35.450
my expectations were way harder and higher than

00:31:35.450 --> 00:31:38.130
theirs were for me at that point. I mean, I was

00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:39.769
probably I don't know if it was a good thing

00:31:39.769 --> 00:31:44.009
or not. I'm just saying from what I think, probably

00:31:44.009 --> 00:31:46.369
great for them that they didn't have to really

00:31:46.369 --> 00:31:48.289
push me to do anything. They were just like,

00:31:48.410 --> 00:31:52.180
OK, how can we help you? Do what you want to

00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:54.480
do and then they just kind of watch watch me

00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.420
do it I think that happens a lot with a lot of

00:31:57.420 --> 00:32:00.099
successful college athletes Especially when you

00:32:00.099 --> 00:32:02.099
get it and pro athletes when you get to that

00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:04.559
point because I had a very similar experience

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.720
My parents didn't push me necessarily in track.

00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.799
I just saw that You know i i'm kind of good at

00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.420
this i want to see where i can get you know make

00:32:13.420 --> 00:32:17.299
this go so they were very um supportive in the

00:32:17.299 --> 00:32:19.259
way like you're saying where you know my mom

00:32:19.259 --> 00:32:21.440
would pack me a cooler snacks for an all -day

00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.619
track me and take me you know to drive me to

00:32:24.619 --> 00:32:26.559
wherever so that i could do that every weekend

00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.880
and sacrifice their time to be there to see me

00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:33.660
run and do everything they could to support me

00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:37.829
and just being there so i think that There are

00:32:37.829 --> 00:32:40.109
those athletes that are just going to be so self

00:32:40.109 --> 00:32:42.869
driven and I don't know if you had the same experience,

00:32:42.869 --> 00:32:45.769
but I Was almost to the point where I needed

00:32:45.769 --> 00:32:48.910
my parents to To be there to kind of talk me

00:32:48.910 --> 00:32:50.829
down all the time because I was just so hard

00:32:50.829 --> 00:32:53.809
on myself When it came to being successful if

00:32:53.809 --> 00:32:57.210
I didn't do what I had expected to do that particular

00:32:57.210 --> 00:33:00.509
jump or that race or if I got Tripped and got

00:33:00.509 --> 00:33:02.789
second or something, you know, I needed them

00:33:02.789 --> 00:33:05.369
to be like it's okay. It's one me. It's one race

00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:07.460
You're going to be fine. It's not your entire

00:33:07.460 --> 00:33:10.599
career like there's other opportunities. Just

00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.740
pick yourself up and get back out there. So the

00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:17.640
support there was huge because I probably would

00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.319
have been so hard on myself that it would have

00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:23.319
been hard to continue all the time. So I think

00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.220
it just depends on the personality of your kid.

00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:28.960
I know we talk about intrinsic motivation and

00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.920
you know motivation that comes from external

00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.400
sources and it depends kind of on your personality

00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.359
and how you operate but You are going to have

00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.279
some of those kids that are just so dedicated

00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.859
to being perfect in their sport that they actually

00:33:41.859 --> 00:33:44.160
need the opposite in terms of support. They just

00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.279
need someone to tell them that they're going

00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.940
to be fine. Yeah, I agree. I think that I needed

00:33:49.940 --> 00:33:54.859
my parents for the same thing. But I mean, that's

00:33:54.859 --> 00:33:59.880
how we felt supported as kids. And I project

00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:04.460
I hopefully will do the same thing. Personally

00:34:04.460 --> 00:34:07.140
would love for my kids to play sports and want

00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:10.360
to do that At whatever level that they decide

00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.159
obviously it'd be great if as a parent if you

00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:14.820
don't have to pay for college It's great, right?

00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:17.719
Like that would be awesome or I mean these days

00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.199
if your kid can get NIL money That would be great,

00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.360
too You know this I it's a whole it's a whole

00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.300
new ball game in Division one athletics and potentially

00:34:26.300 --> 00:34:28.579
some D2s that you know I don't know if in different

00:34:28.579 --> 00:34:31.860
situations or whatnot, but it's a whole different

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:39.460
element to have NAL as a potential. I don't honestly

00:34:39.460 --> 00:34:43.880
know what to think of if one of my kids ends

00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:48.179
up signing a deal where they make money for marketing

00:34:48.179 --> 00:34:50.980
some product or whatever just because they play

00:34:50.980 --> 00:34:53.119
a sport while they're in college. I don't even

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:57.000
know how to fathom that. All we got were stipends

00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:02.179
each month. the program so i mean i can't imagine

00:35:02.179 --> 00:35:06.179
my kid making thousands of dollars every month

00:35:06.179 --> 00:35:09.139
on top of like getting their school paid for

00:35:09.139 --> 00:35:14.420
or whatnot i mean i that's awesome you know awesome

00:35:14.420 --> 00:35:16.920
that you know there are opportunities in this

00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.360
uh economy that is america that you know they

00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.199
have those opportunities but um really i hope

00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.920
to support my kids in the same way that I felt

00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:33.460
supported. He mentioned the talk you down type

00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:38.380
of deal. I would want to do that as well. I think

00:35:38.380 --> 00:35:41.820
with different personalities, I'll have to learn

00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:47.219
how to speak to that child differently than maybe

00:35:47.219 --> 00:35:50.420
the other one. Whereas one person may need like,

00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:53.489
hey, these are like... you know the world's not

00:35:53.489 --> 00:35:55.269
over these are like next steps that you know

00:35:55.269 --> 00:35:57.130
feel like you need to take some type of like

00:35:57.130 --> 00:35:59.429
how do we move forward talk the other one maybe

00:35:59.429 --> 00:36:01.329
it's a little more supportive like you know it's

00:36:01.329 --> 00:36:04.849
it's okay um you know kind of learning to give

00:36:04.849 --> 00:36:07.769
them what they need as a as an individual you

00:36:07.769 --> 00:36:10.070
know to feel confident in themselves to feel

00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:13.110
like we are confident in their abilities as well

00:36:13.110 --> 00:36:22.179
um and then i'm not gonna I'm not gonna be that

00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:24.619
person talking bad about the coaching style or

00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:28.159
whatever because Even now as a coach, I know

00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.880
everyone has their own philosophy. Everyone has

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.159
their own thing I probably feel more confident

00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.699
talking to the coach not necessarily in a I'm

00:36:37.699 --> 00:36:41.679
trying to judge you but hey, I I'd like to understand,

00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:44.260
you know, what's going on here not from a perspective

00:36:44.260 --> 00:36:46.760
like I want to chop it down like I'd like to

00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.420
be invested in it a little bit more than just

00:36:49.420 --> 00:36:52.110
at the game watching You know, like I'd like

00:36:52.110 --> 00:36:55.110
to know what's happening here. But I don't know.

00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:57.130
I think that gets later into the weeds there.

00:36:57.130 --> 00:37:00.090
But hopefully, you know, I want my kids to feel

00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:03.250
I want them to feel confident. I want them to

00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:06.389
feel like they're they have the opportunity to

00:37:06.389 --> 00:37:10.190
get out when they're ready to get out. And we're

00:37:10.190 --> 00:37:12.929
here to support them if they want to go farther

00:37:12.929 --> 00:37:17.949
in that sport. Right. Yeah, I agree. So man,

00:37:17.949 --> 00:37:20.510
I just covered a lot right there, but I'm sure

00:37:20.510 --> 00:37:23.949
you feel the same way but you had already mentioned

00:37:23.949 --> 00:37:26.150
you gave us so much good information on the front

00:37:26.150 --> 00:37:28.469
end about like how your kids are a little bit

00:37:28.469 --> 00:37:30.809
different with like want to be there every class

00:37:30.809 --> 00:37:33.710
and get involved or hey I want to just watch

00:37:33.710 --> 00:37:35.769
a little bit more and then maybe when I feel

00:37:35.769 --> 00:37:40.150
ready I'm gonna go in right and a school it's

00:37:40.150 --> 00:37:42.309
cool how that dynamic happens, you know between

00:37:42.309 --> 00:37:46.500
different kids and Yeah, just just like you said

00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:48.699
you're excited for them and you want to be a

00:37:48.699 --> 00:37:51.360
part of that but also you're like, okay Let's

00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.659
figure out like hey, I really want you to do

00:37:53.659 --> 00:37:57.280
this for you and not necessarily for me I'd love

00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.840
it if you did it for me, but I'd love it. I think

00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.579
even more if you were doing it for you It certainly

00:38:03.579 --> 00:38:06.699
caught me by surprise having to navigate the

00:38:06.699 --> 00:38:10.340
feelings that you still have as a former perfectionist

00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:14.280
athlete in yourself versus trying to help your

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.019
child have kind of a different sports experience

00:38:17.019 --> 00:38:19.639
in the sense that I don't I don't want them to

00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.639
approach it the way I did where it was just nonstop

00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.440
this is all I cared about type of thing and you

00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.440
know having my son and his first jiu -jitsu tournament

00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.059
was like a huge wake up call for me because.

00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.699
In those they get multiple chances to compete

00:38:36.699 --> 00:38:41.949
in matches and seeing him. Win a match and being

00:38:41.949 --> 00:38:44.170
excited about that and ready to do the next one

00:38:44.170 --> 00:38:46.809
to then losing a match and having to pick himself

00:38:46.809 --> 00:38:50.289
up to understand that he's not done. So like

00:38:50.289 --> 00:38:52.469
we lost, but we had to have this whole conversation

00:38:52.469 --> 00:38:54.789
about, okay, what we're going to do is we're

00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:56.469
going to put that in this little box over here

00:38:56.469 --> 00:38:58.150
and we're not going to worry about it right now.

00:38:58.650 --> 00:39:00.329
We're going to go ahead and move on because we

00:39:00.329 --> 00:39:02.829
have to still compete. So you have to teaching

00:39:02.829 --> 00:39:05.989
an eight -year -old how to mentally recover from

00:39:05.989 --> 00:39:09.460
something like that. was a brand new experience

00:39:09.460 --> 00:39:14.099
for me and it's rewarding but it's also. It throws

00:39:14.099 --> 00:39:16.239
you right into the fire because i wasn't expecting

00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:18.559
that and it's kind of like all other aspects

00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.619
of parenting where you're like oh i would never.

00:39:20.940 --> 00:39:23.639
Whenever do that i would never think this and

00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.460
then you put foot in mouth as soon as that situation

00:39:26.460 --> 00:39:29.579
comes along and you're doing it so. Yeah i was.

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:33.019
It was an interesting experience, and like I

00:39:33.019 --> 00:39:35.639
said, now I'm kind of expecting that along the

00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.639
way. There's going to be a lot of situations

00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.460
that I may have handled differently if it was

00:39:40.460 --> 00:39:42.659
me personally, and now you're having to say,

00:39:43.340 --> 00:39:45.699
look, we are not expecting anything out of you.

00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.579
We are here because you enjoy this, and we want

00:39:48.579 --> 00:39:51.579
you to have fun, and we don't think that you

00:39:51.579 --> 00:39:54.429
have to win. That's not what we want for you.

00:39:54.449 --> 00:39:56.429
We want you to come out here and do your best.

00:39:56.489 --> 00:39:58.230
I want to see you put in a good effort. That's

00:39:58.230 --> 00:40:00.469
all I want." And you kind of see that look on

00:40:00.469 --> 00:40:03.210
their face like, oh, really? That's it? Like,

00:40:03.210 --> 00:40:05.469
I can just go out there and do my best? And it's

00:40:05.469 --> 00:40:07.469
like, yes, that's going to be good enough for

00:40:07.469 --> 00:40:10.750
us. So, you know, navigating all these things

00:40:10.750 --> 00:40:13.670
as a parent, it's going to be a trial and error

00:40:13.670 --> 00:40:16.750
type thing. And I'm sure the older they get,

00:40:16.750 --> 00:40:19.030
the harder it gets with, you know, the aspect

00:40:19.030 --> 00:40:21.250
of coaching and especially if it's in a sport

00:40:21.250 --> 00:40:25.119
that we have participated in or coached, I'm

00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:27.360
sure the dynamic there is going to be a brand

00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.360
new thing every step of the way, but I think

00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.579
like you said, the best way we can support them

00:40:34.579 --> 00:40:38.300
is just making sure that our objectives align,

00:40:38.780 --> 00:40:42.539
knowing kind of when and how to push, just to

00:40:42.539 --> 00:40:46.440
be there to support them. Maybe they need a push

00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.659
sometimes and they just don't have it in them

00:40:48.659 --> 00:40:50.579
at that time and they need to hear that from

00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:54.840
you. And, you know, just in any other way that

00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.079
you think will help them feel confident in that

00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:02.800
particular day and moment. Lots, lots to think

00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.820
about. Yeah, for sure. Hey, I wrote a note here

00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:08.800
and I wanted to touch back on this really quickly.

00:41:09.139 --> 00:41:11.820
Talking about still how to support your kids

00:41:11.820 --> 00:41:15.199
here. I know we have a lot of international listeners

00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:19.679
and really shout out to parents internationally

00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.519
as they send their their children either to the

00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.380
U .S. or to a different country to play sports

00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:28.079
and and supporting them from afar is completely

00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.159
different. I mean, I've had a lot of international

00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.300
athletes where their parents make one game in

00:41:33.300 --> 00:41:35.800
their four year career. Right. Typically, it's

00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.880
around that senior day type of experience, but

00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:43.860
it is completely different to support your kid

00:41:43.860 --> 00:41:47.960
from afar, you know, as they're playing sports.

00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.230
And so I mean, from what I've experienced all

00:41:52.230 --> 00:41:54.929
kids man they miss their families like a lot

00:41:54.929 --> 00:41:57.210
and they just they just want to make them proud

00:41:57.210 --> 00:42:01.309
you know by you know what they do uh in school

00:42:01.309 --> 00:42:05.670
and uh in their respective field of play so a

00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:07.909
shout out to those parents who are definitely

00:42:07.909 --> 00:42:11.010
experiencing it differently than you know having

00:42:11.010 --> 00:42:12.869
their kids around locally and being able to go

00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:15.969
see them every every saturday or whatever you

00:42:15.969 --> 00:42:17.989
know when they play definitely and those those

00:42:17.989 --> 00:42:20.650
athletes as a coach you always feel like you

00:42:20.650 --> 00:42:22.690
know you really you need to be there to show

00:42:22.690 --> 00:42:24.690
up for those athletes too because they don't

00:42:24.690 --> 00:42:27.030
have that support from their family right there

00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:29.329
of course they have them you know a phone call

00:42:29.329 --> 00:42:32.530
away but it was a definitely a different experience

00:42:32.530 --> 00:42:34.630
to have international athletes that you kind

00:42:34.630 --> 00:42:37.969
of feel like become family um in the sense that

00:42:37.969 --> 00:42:41.659
they may need those extra conversations or You

00:42:41.659 --> 00:42:44.599
know that hey, have you been eating? Well, are

00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.340
you is everything okay type of stuff more often

00:42:47.340 --> 00:42:49.619
than your kids? You have family close by that.

00:42:49.619 --> 00:42:52.119
They're kind of interacting with all the time

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Yeah We have some good information on these topics

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and we actually we utilize some A great questionnaire.

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I think to kind of really evaluate Where the

00:43:05.969 --> 00:43:09.170
objectives that you mentioned are so you want

00:43:09.170 --> 00:43:11.630
to tell us tell them about the blog tell them

00:43:11.630 --> 00:43:18.150
about the sport NPS to Yeah, we do have a blog

00:43:18.150 --> 00:43:21.349
on this topic that we did a little while back

00:43:21.349 --> 00:43:24.610
and It's just it's called are you good sports

00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:27.369
parent and it just goes over some basics of things

00:43:27.369 --> 00:43:30.150
that you can be doing To support your athletes

00:43:30.150 --> 00:43:32.650
and and these are areas that we've covered today

00:43:32.650 --> 00:43:36.079
for the most part but You know and some of it

00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.099
might seem like common sense but. It's you know

00:43:40.099 --> 00:43:41.940
it's it's good to always check in and make sure

00:43:41.940 --> 00:43:44.699
that you aren't going too far in one direction

00:43:44.699 --> 00:43:49.400
with your own expectations or you know maybe

00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.500
forgetting to check in with where your kids are

00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:53.619
maybe spend years and years in the same sport

00:43:53.619 --> 00:43:57.039
and. And they may not feel the same way about

00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.559
it as they did when they started. So that's just

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.960
a good checklist to kind of go through and do

00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.699
a little self evaluation. But as far as the questionnaire,

00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:10.760
it's called the sport MPS two for short. But

00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.079
basically this questionnaire is going to give

00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:17.659
you the opportunity to go through. So it's a

00:44:17.659 --> 00:44:20.440
self assessment for the athlete. But as the coach,

00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:24.050
it'll give you good insight as to where this

00:44:24.050 --> 00:44:29.269
athlete feels like perfectionism pressure comes

00:44:29.269 --> 00:44:32.269
from. So if this is an athlete that doesn't seem

00:44:32.269 --> 00:44:34.650
like they have any perfectionistic tendencies,

00:44:34.650 --> 00:44:37.210
it may not be that relevant for them. But if

00:44:37.210 --> 00:44:41.170
you have athletes that are really kind of like

00:44:41.170 --> 00:44:44.389
Zach and I mentioned we were as athletes, this

00:44:44.389 --> 00:44:47.409
is an interesting, this would give you some insight

00:44:47.409 --> 00:44:50.010
that I think would help you better support them.

00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.900
It does break down to different categories where

00:44:54.900 --> 00:44:58.960
you can see after they've answered. It breaks

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.360
down into seven categories that are personal

00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.420
standards, concern over mistakes, perceived parental

00:45:05.420 --> 00:45:08.820
pressure, perceived coach pressure, doubts about

00:45:08.820 --> 00:45:12.000
actions and organization. So once they've done

00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.079
the survey and total these areas you can kind

00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.619
of tell like maybe this athlete is getting a

00:45:17.619 --> 00:45:21.179
lot of pressure from home from parents and you

00:45:21.179 --> 00:45:23.840
know the best thing to do to support them would

00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.000
be to have that parents sit down and have a conversation

00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.000
about like goals and where you think you know

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.400
their current statistics are versus the current

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.409
the statistics they look to. To attain later

00:45:38.409 --> 00:45:41.289
and maybe the standards of those particular colleges

00:45:41.289 --> 00:45:43.650
that they really think their child should go

00:45:43.650 --> 00:45:46.789
to and say here's you know the general recruiting

00:45:46.789 --> 00:45:49.849
standards here here's where your child and here's

00:45:49.849 --> 00:45:53.489
where we're trying to go. The other category

00:45:53.489 --> 00:45:55.670
there might be you might find out as a coach

00:45:55.670 --> 00:45:58.960
yourself that you're causing a lot of. I'm sure

00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.159
you're striving for perfectionism in your athletes

00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.179
and not even realizing that you're putting so

00:46:03.179 --> 00:46:06.739
much pressure on being perfect rather than focusing

00:46:06.739 --> 00:46:11.079
on. The method to get there so we're focusing

00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:14.639
on process over the outcome that can take some

00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.940
of the pressure off of that you know of course

00:46:16.940 --> 00:46:18.659
everyone wants to win and that's the ultimate

00:46:18.659 --> 00:46:21.699
goal but we all know that so maybe focusing more

00:46:21.699 --> 00:46:25.840
on process goals so you say well this game. Here's

00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.460
where I want to see us do really well. It's in

00:46:28.460 --> 00:46:32.579
this particular passing or making sure that,

00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:35.599
you know, our we have accurate shots or whatever

00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.900
it may be for that particular sport. And then

00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:40.960
you can also see the breakdown of the personal

00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.519
pressure. So maybe this athlete is baby Tiana

00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.460
that just wanted to be perfect in every absolute

00:46:47.460 --> 00:46:50.380
area and doesn't feel confident in their own

00:46:50.380 --> 00:46:53.039
skills. Because one of the main questions on

00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.219
there is, do I feel like I've prepared myself

00:46:55.219 --> 00:46:58.800
properly to compete? So if they're constantly

00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.440
saying no to that, but you know that you've been

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:04.300
preparing them the best that they can be prepared,

00:47:04.739 --> 00:47:06.420
then that's a conversation that could be had

00:47:06.420 --> 00:47:08.480
to make sure that their competence level is there

00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:10.679
just in their own abilities. And that's going

00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.719
to help improve that overall performance. Well,

00:47:14.820 --> 00:47:19.900
when would you say when and the frequency of

00:47:19.929 --> 00:47:23.909
This questionnaire would would be best best served

00:47:23.909 --> 00:47:27.869
for coaches. Yes, I don't think this is one where

00:47:27.869 --> 00:47:30.690
athletes are first starting out that it's as

00:47:30.690 --> 00:47:33.789
relevant because you may not see where the pressure

00:47:33.789 --> 00:47:35.750
is coming from yet, especially if it's something

00:47:35.750 --> 00:47:38.429
they haven't been doing for a little while. So

00:47:38.429 --> 00:47:41.170
I think this would be more so in the high school

00:47:41.170 --> 00:47:45.610
range. It may be relevant and some younger kids

00:47:45.610 --> 00:47:47.929
if they've been in their sport for a long time,

00:47:47.929 --> 00:47:51.079
but. You know, I'm seeing, I would think probably

00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.039
the biggest insight would come from a high school

00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:57.659
age athlete and someone who's a couple, you know,

00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.480
a year in. And then I think it's something you

00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.739
could do yearly because you could see has that

00:48:02.739 --> 00:48:05.360
score changed. Like maybe I found out as the

00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.519
coach that I'm putting too much pressure on my

00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.460
kids in one particular area or causing a negative

00:48:10.460 --> 00:48:13.190
outcome by the way that I'm approaching. you

00:48:13.190 --> 00:48:15.670
know, maybe an outcome. I'm saying, OK, we have

00:48:15.670 --> 00:48:18.269
to win in this particular way. And if I just

00:48:18.269 --> 00:48:22.030
change my language around it or I change my approach

00:48:22.030 --> 00:48:25.690
to how I am setting goals for my team, I can

00:48:25.690 --> 00:48:27.929
see the result of that changing year over year.

00:48:29.550 --> 00:48:33.409
Awesome. Yeah, but we definitely have this stuff

00:48:33.409 --> 00:48:36.329
to be able to help you. And if anyone has any

00:48:36.329 --> 00:48:40.989
questions about how to use this, how do you interpret

00:48:40.989 --> 00:48:44.159
the scores? We definitely love to help you out

00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:45.940
with that so that you can support your athletes

00:48:45.940 --> 00:48:49.820
the best way Kind of wanted to close by this

00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:55.780
thought here. I mean by no means is the Is our

00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:59.260
experience perfect was it perfect, you know and

00:48:59.260 --> 00:49:03.639
no one is perfect Ever, you know as a parent

00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:07.820
as an athlete as coach but really to strive to

00:49:07.820 --> 00:49:11.579
be the best we can to support kids for what they

00:49:11.579 --> 00:49:15.760
really want to do, I think is the best that we,

00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:18.099
it's the best outcome that you could get is to

00:49:18.099 --> 00:49:21.880
be supportive in a way that's adaptive to that

00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:26.079
athlete. So I know that Tiana and I, we've had

00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.380
some pretty fortunate experiences, but I know

00:49:29.380 --> 00:49:31.579
that that's not everyone's and that, you know,

00:49:31.780 --> 00:49:34.880
mine. was by no means perfect every step of the

00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.980
way, but it was definitely something I'm thankful

00:49:38.980 --> 00:49:42.360
for. And hopefully to shed more light on this,

00:49:42.659 --> 00:49:48.000
other athletes can have great experiences through

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.780
more awareness around the added pressures that

00:49:51.780 --> 00:49:55.079
kids may be feeling these days. And that we definitely

00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:58.079
know that parents and coaches are experiencing

00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.449
these days because everyone wants to win. Everyone

00:50:01.449 --> 00:50:04.329
wants to charge you more money to play in this

00:50:04.329 --> 00:50:07.929
club or in this league We get it. There's a lot

00:50:07.929 --> 00:50:10.309
of stuff happening there but to really bring

00:50:10.309 --> 00:50:12.550
it back to what we have been talking about the

00:50:12.550 --> 00:50:15.869
whole time is the the well -being the benefit

00:50:15.869 --> 00:50:22.050
of the athlete themselves to constantly or frequently

00:50:22.050 --> 00:50:25.730
Be reflecting and remembering that bringing that

00:50:25.730 --> 00:50:29.329
to the forefront to the core is that It's really

00:50:29.329 --> 00:50:34.400
about supporting them Ultimately, we want all

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.619
the lessons that we've learned in sports, which

00:50:36.619 --> 00:50:39.400
is what we feel like is one of the most valuable

00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.400
things that our careers have given us. We want

00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:44.659
to make sure that athletes are continuing to

00:50:44.659 --> 00:50:46.360
play their sports for as long as they can so

00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.579
they can benefit from those types of lessons

00:50:49.579 --> 00:50:54.079
and enrichment things that we got to experience

00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:56.480
along the way. Ultimately, the longer you love

00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.159
your sport and the longer you want to participate,

00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.079
the longer you'll stay in it. That's the ultimate

00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.380
goal here and we hope that this information can

00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:06.619
shed some light on that and help help somebody

00:51:06.619 --> 00:51:09.800
out. Thanks everybody for listening. If you do

00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:11.599
have any questions you want to reach out to us,

00:51:11.699 --> 00:51:13.739
please let us know. We'd love to work with you.

00:51:13.739 --> 00:51:18.739
Maybe we can shed some light into our guaranteed

00:51:18.739 --> 00:51:21.820
scholarship program that we have through our

00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:25.440
connect app and partnering with us. So thanks

00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.320
everybody for listening. We will catch you on

00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:29.159
the next one. Thanks.
