WEBVTT 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:13.179 The mic is hot and the game is on. You're listening 00:00:13.179 --> 00:00:16.100 to News for the Nation podcast by Aces Nation, 00:00:16.379 --> 00:00:19.460 where we talk about nutrition, sports performance, 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.820 the journey of a student athlete, and more. I'm 00:00:22.820 --> 00:00:28.019 Claire. I'm Zach. Time to level up. Welcome back 00:00:28.019 --> 00:00:30.559 sports fans. Today we are continuing to talk 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.880 about the documentary Six Nations, Full Contact. 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.579 Okay, so this is our part three. We'll go through 00:00:36.579 --> 00:00:42.079 episodes five and six. today um jumping right 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:46.939 into it uh episode five mostly about france um 00:00:46.939 --> 00:00:50.960 honestly i can only remember small overlaps that 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:52.619 they might have had especially when they played 00:00:52.619 --> 00:00:55.979 england that they brought in um some overlap 00:00:55.979 --> 00:01:01.259 with i think his name is ging something like 00:01:01.259 --> 00:01:03.640 that elliot or ellis something like that yeah 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.810 the big guy for for england um Yeah, that that's 00:01:07.810 --> 00:01:09.930 the the one but let me not jump ahead too much 00:01:09.930 --> 00:01:16.170 so coming off of France's loss to Ireland where 00:01:16.170 --> 00:01:18.890 Their their main offensive player said that they 00:01:18.890 --> 00:01:21.129 played scared. I remember saying that in one 00:01:21.129 --> 00:01:25.469 of our earlier episodes Coming off of that really 00:01:25.469 --> 00:01:29.109 what they did in this episode was they gave you 00:01:29.109 --> 00:01:32.510 DuPont, which is the Offensive player. He's he's 00:01:32.510 --> 00:01:34.890 there, you know marquee guy on offense. They 00:01:34.890 --> 00:01:38.409 gave us I believe, I don't know how do you say 00:01:38.409 --> 00:01:42.049 his first name. It looks to me like Gale, G -A 00:01:42.049 --> 00:01:45.109 -E -L. I believe there are umlauts above the 00:01:45.109 --> 00:01:51.370 A. Anyways, last name I think is Kiko. Anyways, 00:01:51.650 --> 00:01:54.189 so they gave us a defensive captain, right? Number 00:01:54.189 --> 00:01:58.069 13 for France. And really just kind of highlighted 00:01:58.069 --> 00:02:02.010 his involvement, why he got into rugby. I mean, 00:02:02.660 --> 00:02:04.659 Essentially, they're doing the same thing that 00:02:04.659 --> 00:02:06.700 they did for other players in the previous four 00:02:06.700 --> 00:02:09.960 episodes is giving a player that's like marquee 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.680 for them, telling us, you know, like kind of 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:14.960 showing us that person behind the scenes, how 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:17.800 they prepare, letting them talk about Six Nations, 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:22.379 what it means to them. I mean, we got we got 00:02:22.379 --> 00:02:24.360 everything we thought we would get right. We 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:29.180 got on field what it's like to be in his mind. 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:34.259 During Six Nations tournament what rugby meant 00:02:34.259 --> 00:02:38.620 to him his past and like how he came into rugby 00:02:38.620 --> 00:02:41.919 and like Involving his family side of it as well 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.419 So they really they gave us the full gambit of 00:02:44.419 --> 00:02:46.580 trying to understand this guy for me. It felt 00:02:46.580 --> 00:02:51.400 like the episode was kind of I Was kind of strung 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.280 out at the beginning I think and then I think 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.139 they gave me a lot of his personal information 00:02:55.139 --> 00:02:58.590 at the end uh to me because they gave me all 00:02:58.590 --> 00:03:01.129 this family stuff like later on in the episode 00:03:01.129 --> 00:03:05.310 but i thought it was really um i thought it was 00:03:05.310 --> 00:03:07.090 cool that they showed us offense defense side 00:03:07.090 --> 00:03:13.129 of the french team um and then uh really to me 00:03:13.129 --> 00:03:17.590 i think as you get into this five game tournament 00:03:17.590 --> 00:03:20.740 here I think they really started talking about 00:03:20.740 --> 00:03:23.560 pressure more or at least I sense that they were 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.960 talking about the pressure that guys feel that 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:30.659 these men feel during the tournament. And to 00:03:30.659 --> 00:03:36.199 me, I'm noting more that they started or Gail 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:41.740 started to mention what it's like to sacrifice 00:03:41.740 --> 00:03:44.120 for. He said like to play for the French team 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.430 is sacrifice, right? Like you go away from Your 00:03:47.430 --> 00:03:50.650 family or your you know, you're just completely 00:03:50.650 --> 00:03:53.509 into French rugby at that point and there's nothing 00:03:53.509 --> 00:04:01.169 else and In both of the episodes There was a 00:04:01.169 --> 00:04:04.270 heavy emphasis or at least inclusion of sports 00:04:04.270 --> 00:04:07.629 psychologists Mm -hmm in both these episodes 00:04:07.629 --> 00:04:10.669 which I thought was interesting and I thought 00:04:10.669 --> 00:04:12.689 it was kind of cool the way that I saw it on 00:04:12.689 --> 00:04:16.480 the French side was they just set up all these 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.220 different tables and they had all these different 00:04:19.220 --> 00:04:21.800 sports psychologists and these guys would go 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.779 up and just have a session with them right there 00:04:24.779 --> 00:04:27.379 in the facilities, which I thought was great 00:04:27.379 --> 00:04:29.959 that they were promoting that type of mental 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.040 health and helping these guys kind of. work through 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.160 the pressures, work through, you know, self doubt 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:38.779 if there is any or whatever issues that they 00:04:38.779 --> 00:04:41.240 may be having, you know, like the difficulty 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.240 of being away from loved ones, family and friends, 00:04:44.379 --> 00:04:47.800 stuff like that. So I thought that was a really 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.759 nice piece that they carried on to into the next 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:57.120 episode. Yeah, gosh, I mean, given my thoughts 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:01.939 about it, what did you see? No, yeah, that definitely 00:05:01.939 --> 00:05:04.439 stuck out to me. It's interesting. I feel like 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:06.939 that's a theme that has popped up a little bit. 00:05:06.939 --> 00:05:09.399 I think we've talked about it with the more mental 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:14.240 side of things has been showcased a little bit. 00:05:15.379 --> 00:05:18.360 So I think it's interesting to kind of see how 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.360 each team maybe approaches it. I think previously 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:23.459 there have been other athletes on other teams 00:05:23.459 --> 00:05:25.160 that have talked about it, but maybe it wasn't 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.120 shown. So it was very interesting to kind of 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:31.029 see that The team was prioritizing it and just 00:05:31.029 --> 00:05:33.149 kind of brought all these professionals in and 00:05:33.149 --> 00:05:37.029 the athletes had access to them. I'm and hopefully 00:05:37.029 --> 00:05:39.089 that'll kind of continue to be a theme as we 00:05:39.089 --> 00:05:43.930 get closer to the championship games and potentially 00:05:43.930 --> 00:05:48.009 I'm assuming like maybe injuries are at play 00:05:48.009 --> 00:05:51.629 or coming back from injury or People have to 00:05:51.629 --> 00:05:54.449 step in. I don't know things like that. But yeah, 00:05:54.449 --> 00:05:57.720 it's very Nice to see that highlighted and not 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:01.480 just the practicing aspect or the game aspect. 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.579 We're having a little bit of a glimpse into more 00:06:04.579 --> 00:06:07.660 of a holistic approach or a holistic look at 00:06:07.660 --> 00:06:09.839 what these guys are doing to get prepared to 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:14.560 play at that level. Yeah, I remember you talked 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.160 about the injury part. I think I remember this 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.139 Gale guy having to get his knee taped for something 00:06:20.139 --> 00:06:26.300 in the second game of this fifth episode. Yeah, 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:29.800 obviously a tough thing and a lot of different 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:33.839 issues are coming about but good to see that 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:38.420 they're all taking this holistic approach. One 00:06:38.420 --> 00:06:44.899 thing that stuck out to me during their showing 00:06:44.899 --> 00:06:46.720 of the sports psychologist at these different 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.120 tables is what they were having these meetings 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:54.470 in the same room On the backside of the room 00:06:54.470 --> 00:06:57.930 was their Strength equipment was there their 00:06:57.930 --> 00:07:00.209 racks were on the backside now I couldn't tell 00:07:00.209 --> 00:07:02.529 what what company it was or anything in the back 00:07:02.529 --> 00:07:04.350 there but it was just interesting to see it was 00:07:04.350 --> 00:07:08.410 like I think there was like some type of barricade 00:07:08.410 --> 00:07:11.329 and Then it was these tables which I don't remember 00:07:11.329 --> 00:07:13.949 if the tables were set up on on the turf or not 00:07:13.949 --> 00:07:15.790 they just set up on some different type of floor, 00:07:15.810 --> 00:07:20.490 but I think I'm trying to remember back what 00:07:20.490 --> 00:07:22.490 we said in the other episodes whether or not 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:24.079 We thought that they were going to show more 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.720 stuff like like the training aspect. I think 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.079 I may have said they might start showing it because 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.639 it might come into play a little bit more, but 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:41.060 not necessarily. So I mean. After they beat Scotland, 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:46.860 so France was, I believe, the number two team 00:07:46.860 --> 00:07:50.259 in the nation and Scotland was number one coming 00:07:50.259 --> 00:07:54.360 into the game. and then france won and then the 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:55.899 next week they played england they were talking 00:07:55.899 --> 00:07:58.399 about how tough it was going to be and uh they 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.939 were showing they were showing that ginge guy 00:08:00.939 --> 00:08:03.860 training and how he was tackling and whatnot 00:08:03.860 --> 00:08:09.680 um but the whole defensive side of this uh episode 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.420 uh another little tidbit they threw in there 00:08:12.420 --> 00:08:16.480 was the like almost like we would consider in 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.240 american football the defensive coordinator uh 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:22.620 they brought in a guy who had Been with Wales 00:08:22.620 --> 00:08:28.660 for a while. I think they won three three championships 00:08:28.660 --> 00:08:33.580 when he was there with the Welsh team They brought 00:08:33.580 --> 00:08:37.659 this guy in and He had to learn French and he 00:08:37.659 --> 00:08:40.659 said that he'd learned French a lot from or he 00:08:40.659 --> 00:08:43.639 learned some of it from listening to tapes tapes 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:49.110 like how to learn French. Yeah. One thing I noticed 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:52.190 when he was talking to them, I noticed that his 00:08:52.190 --> 00:08:57.070 conversations were short pieces, like pretty 00:08:57.070 --> 00:09:01.690 short sentences, very direct. I noticed that 00:09:01.690 --> 00:09:05.750 a lot of the terms that they showed when he was 00:09:05.750 --> 00:09:07.590 coaching, like talking in front of the team or 00:09:07.590 --> 00:09:14.389 whatnot. They weren't words that could be They 00:09:14.389 --> 00:09:16.950 weren't a French word that translates to an English 00:09:16.950 --> 00:09:20.269 word They were just like how a French person 00:09:20.269 --> 00:09:23.649 would say this English word a lot of the times 00:09:23.649 --> 00:09:26.009 so it was just interesting that they brought 00:09:26.009 --> 00:09:31.950 him onto the show for for his defensive expertise 00:09:31.950 --> 00:09:35.200 but also to show that like Hey, this coach was 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.179 learning French and whatnot and he was doing 00:09:37.179 --> 00:09:39.620 a pretty good job. I would say they showed some 00:09:39.620 --> 00:09:41.600 of their training drills again and they they 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.480 were showing, you know, back and forth, different 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:45.940 teams training drill. So pretty, pretty good 00:09:45.940 --> 00:09:47.740 episode all around, I think, to kind of give 00:09:47.740 --> 00:09:50.080 us a little more perspective into the French 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.259 squad. Yeah, that's interesting about the coach. 00:09:54.379 --> 00:09:55.960 I will say I think we've talked about this before, 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.799 too, but I think they're the one team that at 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:01.980 least the coaching staff with the head coach 00:10:01.980 --> 00:10:05.740 does not speak. I don't know if Hebrew just doesn't 00:10:05.740 --> 00:10:07.799 want to or it's easier to speak French. Maybe 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:10.200 all the athletes are French, but they do not 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:13.179 speak English. Whereas the Italian team, you 00:10:13.179 --> 00:10:15.159 kind of see things going back and forth. I think 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:18.259 their head coach is not Italian, so he doesn't 00:10:18.259 --> 00:10:22.559 speak Italian. 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Let's go! 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:54.720 I think that's a good point because a lot of 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.320 these other coaches, like the Welsh team, they 00:10:57.320 --> 00:10:59.759 all speak English. I mean, I haven't heard anybody 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:05.879 speak Welsh on that team. But obviously the England 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.740 coach speaking English, you know, and so Irish 00:11:09.740 --> 00:11:12.639 and Scottish coaches are all speaking their version 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:17.639 of English. But yeah, it's interesting how you've 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:22.059 got a coach for a nation that isn't from that 00:11:22.059 --> 00:11:24.080 nation, you know, I mean, this happens in soccer 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.740 too. right when they bring these coaches on that 00:11:26.740 --> 00:11:29.220 aren't even from that country or maybe originally 00:11:29.220 --> 00:11:33.740 um and here they are coaching for a nation to 00:11:33.740 --> 00:11:38.059 be proud of their you know their their team per 00:11:38.059 --> 00:11:41.620 se so uh i think that's pretty good segue into 00:11:41.620 --> 00:11:44.139 you know episode six because they focused a lot 00:11:44.139 --> 00:11:49.100 on on the coach for italy um who is australian 00:11:49.100 --> 00:11:54.669 i believe um And then his special consultant 00:11:54.669 --> 00:11:56.629 coach which I don't even know what the guy is 00:11:56.629 --> 00:11:59.230 like his friend or something They've been coaching 00:11:59.230 --> 00:12:02.009 together for a while or whatnot. I think I think 00:12:02.009 --> 00:12:04.610 they're both Australian They look to be around 00:12:04.610 --> 00:12:08.590 the same age too. So I'm sure they've spent a 00:12:08.590 --> 00:12:12.789 lot of time together. Yeah, so Interesting part 00:12:12.789 --> 00:12:15.789 about this episode. I think was that they were 00:12:17.509 --> 00:12:21.029 Really two main people in focus and then they 00:12:21.029 --> 00:12:25.549 had a third Then they had interesting stuff happen, 00:12:25.549 --> 00:12:30.929 you know with a different one, but so Focus being 00:12:30.929 --> 00:12:35.789 head coach for Italy and then Varney they're 00:12:35.789 --> 00:12:38.570 Probably marquee player like I don't know They 00:12:38.570 --> 00:12:40.570 keep saying a number nine like if you're wearing 00:12:40.570 --> 00:12:42.629 number nine, like that's supposed to mean something 00:12:42.629 --> 00:12:47.159 special I guess You're a certain position or 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.840 you're like a certain standing within the team 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.399 As far as like being a captain or one of the 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.679 best players or something. But anyways Just kind 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:58.120 of taking it back and forth between that and 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.360 a lot of this episode focused on the fact that 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.200 they're winless so far and That they don't want 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.679 to get the wooden spoon Yep. So what were your 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:12.340 impressions of this episode? Yeah, I I mean I 00:13:12.340 --> 00:13:17.850 feel like you could really kind of see like the 00:13:17.850 --> 00:13:23.090 Italian team like struggling after things starting 00:13:23.090 --> 00:13:27.470 relatively well. It seems like things kind of 00:13:27.470 --> 00:13:31.009 not fell apart. But I think that collectively 00:13:31.009 --> 00:13:35.769 as a team, they just didn't seem to be like on 00:13:35.769 --> 00:13:39.289 the same page at practice. And it was interesting 00:13:39.289 --> 00:13:41.990 to see their their coach to like him and his 00:13:41.990 --> 00:13:45.139 buddy, like you mentioned, because It seems like 00:13:45.139 --> 00:13:47.600 they're kind of coaching attitude was a little 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.259 bit more like old school, very kind of like tough 00:13:51.259 --> 00:13:54.440 and blunt. And I don't, I don't know if the, 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.419 I feel like the app, some athletes responded 00:13:56.419 --> 00:13:59.899 to it well, but others, maybe it just like, it 00:13:59.899 --> 00:14:02.899 seems like there's a disconnect somewhere. Yeah, 00:14:03.139 --> 00:14:08.080 agreed. And what's really, what's really a strange 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:11.720 dynamic, I think for this team in general, not 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.600 just the coach being from a different country 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:20.299 is We've got the one big guy on the team who 00:14:20.299 --> 00:14:23.179 speaks really good English. I don't know that 00:14:23.179 --> 00:14:26.080 he's They showed him in in an earlier episode 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.059 like I don't know he's from there originally 00:14:28.059 --> 00:14:33.820 or whatever. He's friends in Bobway Crazy yeah, 00:14:33.860 --> 00:14:36.940 that dude speaks really great English, right? 00:14:37.379 --> 00:14:39.600 doesn't Don't even know if he speaks Italian. 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.759 I've never heard him speak Italian not that I 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:43.639 can recall But anyways, and then you've got number 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:47.279 nine Varney who he's from Wales He was born in 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:51.940 Wales, but his I guess his grandparents are Italian 00:14:51.940 --> 00:14:55.759 and so he's able to play for the for the national 00:14:55.759 --> 00:15:00.100 team Which is also interesting. So it seems like 00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:02.860 there's just there's a lot going on There's so 00:15:02.860 --> 00:15:06.850 many different dynamics within that program that 00:15:06.850 --> 00:15:09.570 I don't know that that's an issue or that's like 00:15:09.570 --> 00:15:12.710 a communication factor. But yeah, you're right. 00:15:12.809 --> 00:15:16.009 It's just like as we see them play, what's being 00:15:16.009 --> 00:15:20.029 shown on the show is that they are having these 00:15:20.029 --> 00:15:24.009 falling apart moments where it's just like they 00:15:24.009 --> 00:15:27.009 talk about how important things are, you know, 00:15:27.009 --> 00:15:28.450 and you're having your meetings, you're having 00:15:28.450 --> 00:15:31.870 your practices. Maybe your practices are a little 00:15:31.870 --> 00:15:34.389 choppy and not so great. And then those those 00:15:34.389 --> 00:15:36.610 moments in the game where it's just like, there's 00:15:36.610 --> 00:15:41.190 pressure and you're, you know, an error is happening, 00:15:42.009 --> 00:15:45.590 either forced or unforced. Right. So this was 00:15:45.590 --> 00:15:47.470 another episode that they talked about pressure, 00:15:47.529 --> 00:15:52.970 like internally. And for like the entire Six 00:15:52.970 --> 00:15:55.929 Nations, but yeah, starting to build a little 00:15:55.929 --> 00:15:58.230 bit more. Oh, definitely, definitely. Because 00:15:58.230 --> 00:15:59.990 they don't want to they don't want to be bottom 00:15:59.990 --> 00:16:02.549 of the league, you know, at the end of this. 00:16:04.250 --> 00:16:08.110 Because I think that's more commonly what's been 00:16:08.110 --> 00:16:11.490 Where they've been as a nation is at the bottom 00:16:11.490 --> 00:16:14.269 right the entire time I think for the most part 00:16:14.269 --> 00:16:20.350 so yeah I'm sorry I was just gonna say I wonder 00:16:20.350 --> 00:16:26.409 if the kind of Composition of the team of like 00:16:26.409 --> 00:16:28.629 everybody kind of being from everywhere and not 00:16:28.629 --> 00:16:30.529 everybody but just kind of having people from 00:16:30.529 --> 00:16:36.820 a lot of different places Contributes to Not 00:16:36.820 --> 00:16:38.639 necessarily that they're at the bottom but just 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.960 like this lack of Cohesiveness because I'm sure 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:43.100 there's a lot of differences in in my culture 00:16:43.100 --> 00:16:45.059 or if they played for other national teams like 00:16:45.059 --> 00:16:46.980 how people do things and then you have to kind 00:16:46.980 --> 00:16:49.759 of come to this other team and Figure it out 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:53.700 or maybe there's language barriers. I also wonder 00:16:53.700 --> 00:16:58.899 if because With the Olympics coming up, you know 00:16:58.899 --> 00:17:03.659 how how much I think specific people and I think 00:17:03.659 --> 00:17:06.579 country get like very much into it because they're 00:17:06.579 --> 00:17:09.099 representing their country they're representing 00:17:09.099 --> 00:17:11.359 the place that they either live or they were 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.480 born in or that they can really like Emotionally 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.920 connect to so I wonder if maybe that contributes 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:20.019 to it Someone in the sense of like some of these 00:17:20.019 --> 00:17:21.960 guys if they're not playing for the country that 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.359 they're from or that they love that it's There's 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.579 kind of like that disconnect from the teammates 00:17:26.579 --> 00:17:30.230 that are doing that Yeah, that's a good point 00:17:30.230 --> 00:17:33.950 too. It's just We don't know that ins and outs, 00:17:34.210 --> 00:17:37.109 you know like no how people are feeling and whatnot, 00:17:37.109 --> 00:17:40.910 but it's definitely something that Should be 00:17:40.910 --> 00:17:43.910 considered I guess with as you mentioned all 00:17:43.910 --> 00:17:47.849 these different pieces coming together here to 00:17:47.849 --> 00:17:54.849 wear the azure blue Mm -hmm. Hmm Just a thought 00:17:54.849 --> 00:17:59.619 yeah for sure I think another interesting piece 00:17:59.619 --> 00:18:02.960 here when they were going into the game against 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.299 Wales, which would have been the last part of 00:18:05.299 --> 00:18:10.839 this episode, they showed how Varney and a Welsh 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:14.579 player, I think his last name is Rhys Zomet, 00:18:15.579 --> 00:18:19.279 how they went to college together and they played 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:21.440 together and now they're playing against each 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:23.799 other. And one of the things I thought was just 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:32.170 so interesting is that During the week in preparation 00:18:32.170 --> 00:18:36.369 leading up to that game, Varney was in Wales 00:18:36.369 --> 00:18:41.250 to play pool with this guy during the week, you 00:18:41.250 --> 00:18:44.170 know? So I wonder if that was more for the show. 00:18:44.950 --> 00:18:49.109 I think it was, but I'm also like I'm just trying 00:18:49.109 --> 00:18:52.029 to figure out how the travel was made there and 00:18:52.029 --> 00:18:55.130 how did you get around practice, you know, and 00:18:55.130 --> 00:18:58.859 whatnot. So question. That's interesting, you 00:18:58.859 --> 00:19:01.140 know, that they were in that place playing pool. 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:07.839 Also, did you if you looked at the the the pool 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.240 like set that they had, right? It was just red, 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.200 yellow and the eight ball. That was it. That's 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.579 it. No other numbers, no light greens or whatever. 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:20.279 All the other stuff that, you know, you typically 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:24.000 see it was just red, yellow and then the eight 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:28.119 ball. Interesting. So it wasn't even real. Think 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:31.380 it was real. I think it was probably just That 00:19:31.380 --> 00:19:33.839 place that pub that they were at they probably 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:40.059 just did that Yeah, but that was very very interesting 00:19:40.059 --> 00:19:44.819 part as well that maybe I'm not gonna say I'm 00:19:44.819 --> 00:19:46.680 not saying they took that guy away from the game 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:49.660 took it out of the game I just think that it's 00:19:49.660 --> 00:19:51.559 another interesting piece to the dynamic that 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.039 we've been talking about. It's like right you 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.019 know, the back and forth of, you know, and going 00:19:59.019 --> 00:20:01.019 to have them, you know, are going to have these 00:20:01.019 --> 00:20:03.180 meetings with these people or just hang out with 00:20:03.180 --> 00:20:05.700 people from other teams that you you've known, 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:08.279 you know, all your life or at least for a big 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:12.519 chunk of it. More about this episode, I thought 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:15.819 that this was an episode that in that Wales game 00:20:15.819 --> 00:20:20.940 got into more of the technical aspects of the 00:20:20.940 --> 00:20:27.140 game. I think they started to talk a little bit 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:30.799 more about maybe some rules that were happening. 00:20:31.180 --> 00:20:34.900 They threw in a term like ruck. I don't even 00:20:34.900 --> 00:20:37.460 know what that meant, but I think what they said 00:20:37.460 --> 00:20:40.660 was like it was a tackle from the side, not from 00:20:40.660 --> 00:20:45.440 head on. So I started to get in that Wells game 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:50.119 in particular was more technical terms and different 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:52.619 aspects of like the actual game were being kind 00:20:52.619 --> 00:20:57.849 of brought to light because It was calls that 00:20:57.849 --> 00:21:01.130 Italy thought should have been made in their 00:21:01.130 --> 00:21:04.109 favor or should have been, you know, brought 00:21:04.109 --> 00:21:06.670 to light that weren't by the referees. And if 00:21:06.670 --> 00:21:08.569 you watch the episode, you'll see that the coaching 00:21:08.569 --> 00:21:14.029 staff is definitely not in agreement with the 00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:17.670 calls that are being made on the field. So, yeah, 00:21:18.289 --> 00:21:21.049 that's one thing I think I liked about that game 00:21:21.049 --> 00:21:24.190 in particular, but they really started to bring 00:21:24.700 --> 00:21:28.259 the coach for Wales into the conversation a little 00:21:28.259 --> 00:21:31.319 bit more. Because, you know, he was popping up 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.960 and he made a comment about the other coach don't 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:35.680 going down to talk to the officials like right 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:38.720 at halftime. Like he didn't like that type of 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.339 thing. So it is interesting, you're getting these 00:21:42.339 --> 00:21:44.299 personalities that are coming out a little bit 00:21:44.299 --> 00:21:49.019 more. You know, maybe in Australia, they're they're 00:21:49.019 --> 00:21:52.119 just really blunt and you know, old school, as 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:55.200 you said, you know, I don't know. Maybe I wouldn't 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:59.339 be surprised if they were I wouldn't either neither 00:21:59.339 --> 00:22:03.160 Most most people most countries outside of the 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:10.119 United States are very much that way All right, 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:14.259 so just all the listeners are aware here I didn't 00:22:14.259 --> 00:22:17.980 watch This season when it actually happened like 00:22:17.980 --> 00:22:20.660 in real life. Okay, so we're watching the actual 00:22:20.660 --> 00:22:28.420 documentary here And so I don't necessarily outright 00:22:28.420 --> 00:22:33.480 know who wins this. I have no idea. But I have 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:38.579 a feeling about who wins it because because I 00:22:38.579 --> 00:22:41.539 have watched the most recent season, the twenty 00:22:41.539 --> 00:22:46.380 four season of the Six Nations tournament. Yeah, 00:22:46.380 --> 00:22:50.529 it's happening. Claire, do you have a thought 00:22:50.529 --> 00:22:53.630 of who wins this Six Nations that we're watching 00:22:53.630 --> 00:22:58.829 in this documentary? I don't think it's Italy. 00:22:59.789 --> 00:23:04.750 No, I don't think it is either. I would say potentially 00:23:04.750 --> 00:23:14.069 either Ireland or I want to say Ireland or France. 00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:22.789 Okay. I think that the French win Like I said, 00:23:22.789 --> 00:23:27.670 I never watched this season this 23 season But 00:23:27.670 --> 00:23:32.609 I have seen the 24 season My feeling is that 00:23:32.609 --> 00:23:37.509 the French will win, okay Find out next time 00:23:37.509 --> 00:23:43.210 we will we will have to find out Cool What are 00:23:43.210 --> 00:23:45.609 you looking forward to in the last part besides 00:23:45.609 --> 00:23:50.369 the French or the Irish winning there? I think 00:23:50.369 --> 00:23:53.329 just seeing it all come together um I think it's 00:23:53.329 --> 00:23:57.589 all kind of every episode or pairing of episodes 00:23:57.589 --> 00:24:00.890 have kind of done a really good job of like setting 00:24:00.890 --> 00:24:03.130 up the teams and kind of their journey through 00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:06.210 the season specific highlighting specific athletes 00:24:06.210 --> 00:24:09.390 so I'm looking forward to kind of seeing it all 00:24:09.390 --> 00:24:14.079 come together and see those last couple of games 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.960 and those last remaining teams and I Don't know. 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:20.460 It's just like I mentioned earlier with the Olympics 00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:23.220 like I think all of these like obviously this 00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:26.099 already happened but like these big sporting 00:24:26.099 --> 00:24:29.960 events or you know, like the final or like the 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.619 championship is just very Exciting and it elicits 00:24:33.619 --> 00:24:36.940 something in you that you just get excited about 00:24:36.940 --> 00:24:39.500 so I'm just excited to kind of see it all come 00:24:39.500 --> 00:24:42.380 together and see who can handle the pressure 00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:46.359 and who can't. Yeah, I agree. I'm looking forward 00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:51.299 to more of this continuation of these storylines 00:24:51.299 --> 00:24:53.420 that they've built up already and kind of seeing 00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:59.039 where they come to a spearhead you know, whether 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.000 a coach gets fired or, you know, another player, 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.980 you know, gets benched that we thought wasn't 00:25:04.980 --> 00:25:06.779 going to get benched because I've seen that a 00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:10.759 couple of times. And maybe some some other storylines 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.480 like in episode five and six, they both had a 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.619 common theme where two of the players on opposing 00:25:17.619 --> 00:25:20.980 teams at some point have played together. We 00:25:20.980 --> 00:25:24.279 didn't mention this earlier, but the French defensive 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:29.150 captain. he played with the Scottish marquee 00:25:29.150 --> 00:25:32.990 offensive player, Finn, his name is. They played 00:25:32.990 --> 00:25:37.450 together in some league or something at some 00:25:37.450 --> 00:25:39.950 point. So they are also familiar with each other. 00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:44.089 So I think those things, like it's only six teams, 00:25:44.309 --> 00:25:45.990 guys are gonna, people are gonna know each other, 00:25:46.109 --> 00:25:48.009 right? And the countries aren't that far apart. 00:25:48.730 --> 00:25:51.910 So I think that's interesting to kind of see. 00:25:52.930 --> 00:25:55.069 All these things develop and like you said, I 00:25:55.069 --> 00:25:58.150 want to see the final picture together, you know 00:25:58.150 --> 00:26:03.269 So yeah, it would be a interesting Last couple 00:26:03.269 --> 00:26:08.829 episodes. I'm curious as to if it goes Episode 00:26:08.829 --> 00:26:13.509 seven we get like the final or like Whether we 00:26:13.509 --> 00:26:15.690 get one game whether we get like a couple of 00:26:15.690 --> 00:26:19.089 games from a couple of teams and then the next 00:26:19.089 --> 00:26:22.069 episode it's like the really important games 00:26:22.069 --> 00:26:24.490 so like last episode maybe it's like the really 00:26:24.490 --> 00:26:26.769 important game that determines the winner and 00:26:26.769 --> 00:26:29.829 then maybe the last half of that episode is like 00:26:29.829 --> 00:26:32.589 aftermath after the season you know and like 00:26:32.589 --> 00:26:35.650 celebrations from one team and then all the changes 00:26:35.650 --> 00:26:38.470 that are going to ensue from other teams I don't 00:26:38.470 --> 00:26:40.910 know that's kind of what I think is gonna happen 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.119 is like episode seven will go straight rugby 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.240 and then eight will get the champion of the league 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:50.920 and then like like recap of everything that's 00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.759 happening moving forward for the other ones but 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:59.119 you feel any differently um not necessarily i 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.500 would i would imagine that the last one is going 00:27:01.500 --> 00:27:04.880 to focus primarily on like the last like big 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.029 couple of big matchups And then I don't know 00:27:08.029 --> 00:27:10.170 if maybe like the last half will focus on the 00:27:10.170 --> 00:27:12.109 aftermath. I would say maybe like the last like 00:27:12.109 --> 00:27:16.750 10 minutes they might focus on that. Yeah, well, 00:27:16.750 --> 00:27:19.750 we'll see, you know, only time will tell. And 00:27:19.750 --> 00:27:23.269 you know, in the final part of this series, so 00:27:23.269 --> 00:27:25.950 I'm excited to watch them and share my thoughts 00:27:25.950 --> 00:27:29.009 here with you and kind of see how it all unfolds. 00:27:29.569 --> 00:27:32.849 So, yeah, awesome. Thanks, everybody, for listening. 00:27:33.029 --> 00:27:35.710 We will catch you on the next one. See ya.