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Welcome to season five.
So Kayleigh, what do you like to listen to when you work out?
I don't know.
I like to listen to podcasts and sometimes music.
Hey, wait, this is a podcast.
What if you could have both?
At the same time?
Oh yeah.
Podbeat is a free mobile app that lets you add any beat style to any podcast for your
workout.
It's easy to do and free to download in the App Store.
Kayleigh, you sound pretty cool with the trap beat.
But Sarah, the funk beat works for your voice.
So if you want to make our podcast work for a workout, check it out in the App Store.
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OK, on to the show.
Hey, welcome back to Natural Fitness Coach.
I'm Kayleigh and here with me is my co-host Sarah, who could write a dissertation on hypertrophy,
but still doesn't get my jokes.
It's hypertrophy.
Oh, hypertrophy.
I do tend to enjoy learning about that stuff.
I probably could write some serious papers about it.
You probably could.
You could write some white papers, I bet.
I would actually really enjoy that.
You know, did you know that I applied to go back to school for my PhD?
No.
So I did.
I didn't make it in because obviously I would have started school this last fall because
they didn't want you.
They did not want me.
You stayed at home too long.
It's not because of my experience.
It's because by the time I went back and studied and had to like exercise my brain to try to
score well on the GMAT test, I do remember you telling me you like failed some tests,
but I didn't know it was for your PhD.
It's like algebra, geometry, trigonometry.
Talk all that.
It is all and you can't use a calculator.
So you have to rely like you have to start doing like long math.
I'm like immediately no.
This has zero like the fact that it is the entrance exam to get your master's degree
in business schools kind of beside the like beside me, which I did it to get masters my
master's degree.
But it's wild to think that there's an association with doing long algebra to whether or not
you're going to be good in business school.
Anyways it's their it's their entrance exam.
So because my degrees are all formally in like business and education, I was like, you
know, I will I want my PhD.
It's been a dream of mine.
Like I'm going to go I'll go to University of Nebraska.
I'm going to get my PhD and it's officially going to be in marketing, but I'm going to
do all my research in like sales.
It's all my formal education, right?
And everything looked fine, but like that test score, it was not good because I'm like
I it's been 20 years and I haven't used need to use any of this information.
No, even more so like algebra is what eighth grade like 30 years.
It's like why do I have why is any of this an indicator of like how successful?
Listen, I can relate to the story because last year I decided to take fourth grade math
on Khan Academy.
How'd that go for you?
It's really hard.
It's like my goodness, I haven't exercised that part of my brain in a long time.
I homeschool my kids.
So like I need to like my 10 year old is getting like math wise like I'm learning with her.
Right?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
See in there exercising parts of that brain.
So you know it so it's been on my list to get to the point where I'm in a position where
I could do research and like write white papers and I'm like maybe business school isn't my
route like maybe now I probably should have taken the GRE because now I understand that
test is written differently.
They would have accepted either one for the entrance exam.
But since then I've had an opportunity to get involved in like more of like the strength
and conditioning of some of our area youth athletes.
I'm like, oh, I kind of like this stuff more.
Yeah, you can always just sell feet pictures and I could just do that too.
And just really not have to do any research or think about anything or write any white
papers.
Yeah, I know there's some things that are interesting about this world now too that
I would be interested to dive into a bit more.
And we'll see.
I might also not be the researching type.
Might not be.
I might like not like to get into the numbers and stuff, but I sure do like being informed
about it.
So anyways, all right, so let's say I love how my little intros are really just leading
into random off topics or nothing to do with what maybe people hate it.
I don't know.
But I don't know.
We'll find out.
I guess everyone's going to stop listening after this season because of like those new
intros just didn't or maybe we'll get more people that are like, oh, those are fun.
You never know.
You try.
Okay.
So today we're going to talk about the what we remember from school.
Yeah, back, which is a pyramid food pyramid, food pyramid.
They had the food pyramid.
It was for a few decades.
Yeah.
And that's really what we we were taught was like how you should eat.
Yeah.
And do you know, which is speaking of shit that you learned in school that's irrelevant
that you don't use in everyday life.
And that's actually like entirely not accurate either.
Like this is this is the daily dietary guidelines that were published that most of us learned
in like the 90s.
I'm trying to pull one up because I haven't seen one in here.
Let me just give you the link on this one that I found because this is a good like side
by side.
I'll add it into the little doc.
Okay.
Oh, here.
This is the one I'm looking at because they got them both kind of in the where you putting
it in the doc.
So this is the Utah State University Extension office and they just did it just pulled up
as a website that actually had it's one of their blogs.
But it has all of the images for us to be able to talk about like in one spot, which
I thought was really super helpful.
So the pyramid is what most people remember when we were in school.
The bread, cereal, rice and pasta group is the bottom of the pyramid.
Six to 11 servings.
That's a day.
That's wild.
Oh, wow.
I didn't realize.
And look at where the protein is at being the most important.
Yes.
And look at the serving amount.
And that's like, okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Have your fruits and vegetables.
But look at how tiny of a priority meat is.
Yeah.
And it's not just meat like it includes which I think it's really interesting that includes
nuts, which is a fat.
Yeah.
So it's funny because this is wildly inaccurate.
They really include nuts in their meat, poultry fish, dry beans, eggs and nuts group, which
is only two to three servings, which by the way, I mean, your protein servings a day should
be like every meal.
Like you should have a full serving of protein like five or six times a day.
And then but then it puts your fats, oils and sweets up at the very top and you're using
sparingly.
But like, yeah, they really demonized fats.
They did oils.
That's our fat.
But they categorize them separately.
Yeah.
And then they put them with poultry.
People think that peanut butter is a protein.
It is not a protein source, but it has protein in it, but it is not a protein source.
And so but dry beans is also there too, which is weird.
I mean, lentils do have some protein, but they're primarily a carbohydrate.
It's kind of the same idea as the peanut butter or the butter.
But then it's like the milk yogurt cheese group has its own category.
Yeah.
Isn't this crazy?
I mean, I pulled it up.
I was like, yeah, I totally remember that.
But back then I don't think it even registered as like under now.
I will say this every day in high school growing up.
My breakfast was I went through different stages, but I went through a pop tarts phase.
It would either be as we all do cherry, strawberry or cinnamon toast.
No s'mores.
Nope.
I did not like that chocolate.
Nope.
That was yours though, apparently, huh?
You know, pop tarts, pop tart in my mind.
Those three were my only go tos.
Okay.
I did not deviate.
Okay.
And then I if that was if I was not in a pop tart era era, then it was cereal.
And there's only two cereals that I would rotate through, but I would go in like stages.
Right.
So it either be Lucky Charms or Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Dude, Cinnamon Toast Crunch slaps.
It's so I can down a box.
Shit is so good.
Cinnamon Toast Crunch and not even think twice about it.
It is so good.
I need to talk about real quick because I recently watched the what two, three seasons of Ted
Lasso.
Yeah.
And the part Ted Lasso is so good.
You know, if you haven't seen it, it's this American man who moves to the UK to be Kansas
City man.
Yeah, Jason Sudeikis.
So we become a football coach.
Football, football, which football in the UK is soccer.
Yeah.
And so he's living there and he has his assistant coach with him.
And there was one part where he was like, OK, so with that, we're going to take just
a quick little ad break.
Kaylee and Sarah need a break from this podcast and each other.
So we'll be right back.
OK, we're back.
Do you want to grab some breakfast?
And he's like, no, I'm good.
I had a piece of a big piece of cereal for breakfast because they show important out one
of those whole ass things.
Shredded wheat, the biscuit.
It just made me think of you.
Shredded wheat is awful.
I'm not a fan of that either.
Isn't that what you feed your kids?
I don't feed my kids.
I do not.
I do not feed my kids that every now and then if Dane goes to the grocery store, he does
drag a box at home and I hate that stuff.
I can confidently, 100 percent say I have never bought a shredded wheat biscuit.
It's not worth it.
I haven't bought it.
I haven't eaten it.
Never have.
Never will.
I buy I buy frosted mini-weeds.
Honestly, if you're going to eat cereal like Lucky Charms, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, that
is not a nutritious start of your day period.
End of story.
No.
If you're going to do something that processed and do cereal, then you probably should just
go balls to the wall and just go all out and do the good stuff.
So if your option is between like Honey Bunches of Oats versus Fruit Loops, those are your
options.
What are you picking?
Or I'll do you one better.
I'll do you one better.
Right now you have two boxes of cereal in front of you.
Your breakfast options are Fruit Loops or Raisin Bran.
Oh, you'd eat that shit?
Oh, I love that raisin.
Oh no.
Yes.
Ew.
Yes.
It tastes like butt.
No, it does not.
Butt hole.
No, it is very good.
No, I totally do.
Ellen, you think so too?
Yeah.
See?
You know what I used to do?
Fruit Loops are too big.
They get too soggy too fast.
I used to, me and my sisters used to, my parents would buy what are they called?
Rice Krispies.
Yeah.
And we used to, I mean, pour straight sugar.
Oh yeah.
And then you'd get to the end and you would just have milk and the sugar and just like
wet, soggy sugar on the bottom.
I did.
I would also rotate in Frosted Flakes.
And I would slice a banana on top of the Frosted Flakes.
But then because there was not enough sugar on the actual Frosted Flakes, I would do a
spoonful of like white sugar and drizzle that on top of the whole thing.
I don't think as a child I ever sliced a banana for any reason.
Oh, it's really good on Frosted Flakes.
I didn't know that.
Yum.
When I was a kid, because I had Fruit Loops and Lucky Charms.
I would, yeah, I would do that too.
So that would get rotated.
And so those were like the four, four breakfast choices, right?
The three different cereals or the versions of the, the Pop Tarts.
So anyways, here's the deal though about cereal.
The portion size on cereal is like a half a cup, three quarters of a cup.
It's nothing.
So if you look at a regular bowl, you're literally probably having three or four servings
just to have like what somebody would consider a normal bowl of cereal.
So if you look at this, you know, like six to 11 servings, that seems like a lot, but
the serve, technical serving sizes aren't very big with some of that stuff.
Yeah.
It's still a lot compared to the rest of it and what we know now, right?
So then I do remember everyone was all in a tizzy though, when they finally changed
the food pyramid.
When did they change it?
Oh, it says 2005.
Okay.
It said 2005.
It released it because if you did not know that the dietary guidelines are updated every
five years by the Department of Agriculture and Health and Human Services.
Oh, they just have to be?
Yeah.
It just says they are updated.
Starting in 1980, they've issued it every five years, but I don't know.
That's just the dietary guidelines.
They probably don't, they don't come up with new graphics then, right?
Because in 1992 is the most recognized food pyramid.
And then in 2005 was the new, the my period or not pyramid.
My pyramid was released to explain why each of the five food.
Do you want me to edit that out?
No, you can keep that in because we don't do that here, Kaylee.
My pyramid was released.
Oh, this I could get on board with.
I mean, I was like in the big kid world by 2005.
So like, wait, I didn't say, I remember it came out, but it explained that each of the
five food groups were important to have in your diet, which yes, I agree.
And it's interesting because they took it from bread, cereal, rice and pasta and they
moved it to grains, vegetables, fruits, milk.
Interesting.
I'm looking at one.
I wonder when this was from because it has vegetables, salad and fruit at the biggest,
the bottom five to seven servings.
What is that one?
I don't know.
I just pulled this up.
No, I don't think it has a date.
And is it officially like the I mean, because people will come up with their own.
I know that's what's I don't know when this is from is from safe food dot net.
That's interesting because there's but they did the kind of transition and they kind of
made them the lines vertical, right?
Yeah, bottom up to the top.
It's like, look, all of these food groups are actually important parts in your need.
All of these and you need all of them.
It's just about how much and when.
But I did think it was interesting that they changed it.
You know, the titles a little bit grains, fruits, vegetables.
Yeah.
They still throw the meat and beans together, which is fine.
I can deal with that for now.
But you know, I really remember about growing up in the 90s was milk was pushed so hard.
I do not like drinking milk.
I don't mind milk.
It was it was a staple at our house.
Like every meal.
You know, I love I love having a glass of milk with a big old heap and plate of spaghetti.
Oh, so good.
I mean, I love spaghetti or lasagna.
I would not choose the milk with it.
I always for some reason that's always I've tapered off a little bit as I've aged in my
I have just frontal cortex developed, but I have not ever chosen to drink white milk.
I remember growing up in elementary school.
We only used to get a carton, a choice of chocolate milk on Fridays.
It was like the big deal, which by the way, now I don't understand why our kids are getting
that as a choice every day.
It's kind of ridiculous.
But Fridays used to be plenty.
So we would have chocolate milk on Fridays as an option or the white milk.
My sister likes to tell a story about when we were in elementary school, she was two
grades higher than me and we would go in and eat because you could you could like opt into
the going in for breakfast.
Yep.
And so we would go in for breakfast and she was older than me.
She was cooler than me, but she would have to walk me to school.
We would have to go into breakfast together.
So she would meet up with her friends.
I didn't have any friends because I was super lame.
So I'd like stick by her side.
And I always looked forward to the chocolate milk.
And one day we went in and there was no chocolate milk.
And I started singing, no chocolate milk too bad in front of all of her friends.
I was just unaware, like the socially inept.
Now, at least you're more aware, kind of.
But she brings that up all the time.
Oh, my gosh.
I have no idea where your daughter gets it.
Copy paste.
I was a weird kid.
I was probably in like, I don't know.
Well, she couldn't have been higher than fifth grade, so I couldn't have been higher than
third grade.
Third.
That's funny.
You just made up a song.
I was singing top of my lungs, middle of the cafeteria.
She was mortified.
I'm sure she was.
That's the kind of kid I was.
It sums up who I am as a person.
One thing's about us never change.
So you know, anyway.
Okay.
So we do you know what to say on the food?
Well, do you know where that came from?
Because I mean, that's still a pyramid, but I don't know if I just feel like somebody made
that one up or what is the food pyramid?
I mean, we're so it's got we know it's got vegetable salad and fruit at the bottom.
Yeah, the most important whole meal cereals, breads, potatoes, pasta and rice.
Like late 90s.
It doesn't say I wish it did.
This is for adults and teenagers and children aged five and over.
That's all it says.
And then after the whole meal cereals, the milk, yogurt and cheese and then above that
meat, poultry, fish, eggs, beans and nuts.
And then above that fats, spreads and oils and above that with a separation and an exclamation
mark.
Oh, there we go.
Foods and drinks high in fat, sugar and salt.
So all right.
Well here I see.
I see that one now.
Like the food pyramid.
Oh, I might be onto something here.
This says in Ireland, the food pyramid is used to make healthy eating easier.
Oh, well that's I see the food pyramid.
I see that same one now.
But this is yeah, I don't.
OK, that's not even a legit source either.
So I can't find what the I can't find what that one's from.
This might not be relevant to America.
Well, it just might not be ours.
Yeah.
So they're still using some form of the food pyramid.
Are there parts of the world?
Yeah, because it turns out America is not the only country.
Yeah.
You heard it here.
I see it say food.
Oh, yeah.
For adults.
Well, where did that one come from?
I don't know.
Doesn't say.
Hmm.
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Well, now I'm really super interested in figuring out that it even has the children's food pyramid,
the food pyramid for older people and the eat well guide.
So this is just for this is for a different country.
So if you are a listener in Ireland, take now.
There you go.
I would agree with the fact, though, that it does.
It is a little different for children, adults and older adults.
Yeah, there are some differences through those different kind of age demographics that would
be appropriate.
Right.
So OK, well, if we go back then to well, and here's one thing that I did want to mention
was that the one thing I read is that the food pyramid was influenced by the food industry.
Well, yeah, they pay for everything, right, which is which is why the grains are down
at the bottom and the fats got like all the way up.
Yeah.
Like did that shape obviously did.
Of course, it is that we were given.
So going back to the milk, that was a big yeah, that was pushed by big milk.
And I have a presentation that I do like I have pushed by the milk.
I think I missed it.
What did I miss?
I missed it.
Now all of a sudden, I'm like I'm ready to go find another part of a presentation.
What did you say?
I said the whole milk thing was pushed by big milk.
It was by the dairy farmers of America.
Yeah, because they want you to buy like big pharma.
Like explain everything to you.
You did.
I missed that one.
Does he Alan laughs at you when you're funny.
So he's your radar.
He's like your gauge.
He knows I don't I miss it.
But but it's true, though.
Yeah, I'm being funny.
But the milk industry for sure.
And they made us think like, oh, it's calcium.
You got to build.
They did.
Well, then they went to the big marketing push what probably got milk six or seven years
ago where it was like, oh, drink your protein.
I miss it was a protein and that's that chapter.
Yep.
I was it was got milk.
But then it was like, hey, it's a it's a protein source.
And they did all the things and this all the things around that, too.
OK, we here is so because I want to get my dates right.
And now I'm trying to remember nutrition, golden rule, because here is why we need to
prep.
I should probably prep maybe sometimes, but it was in the 70s or 80s.
It was the big non fat push.
Yeah.
And so it was the big corporation was paying the researchers to say that it was the sugar
was the bad.
Yeah.
Or the fat was bad.
That was bad.
But what happens then when you take that out of products, that's what the flavor.
So all the low fat non fat stuff was adding sugar back in.
So those companies were paying the researchers to say fat's bad, which scared everyone to
buying anything that's fat in it.
They all went to low fat stuff when it was really like the sugar was really not good.
Yeah.
Everything was fat free.
You know, everything was so bad.
And it has been weird with doing the carnivore diet is that it's supposed to be whole fats.
Yep, and it's a weird mindset shift to like be okay with eating like, and just the fats
in general.
Like when you're on carnivore diet, you have to get as many as much fats as you can, which
is just a crazy when you grew up thinking fats were bad.
Yep.
And you're like pouring fat over your eggs.
One of my earliest memories was like on a road trip with my mom and my aunt and it was
back in like the late 80s and I remember we stopped at a gas station and she got a bag
of Twizzlers and I very remember her saying like, this is a good choice because look,
it says low fat.
Oh, you know, on the marketing or whatever.
And it was like on today, they'd probably put like protein.
Yeah, I approach it.
Which is funny.
So here I just pulled up my one slide worth the marketing genius behind the milk industry
and how they had this whole ad with a basketball guy dunking like a splash of milk.
What eight grams of protein looks like when you're playing above the rim.
But then when you actually look at the nutrition facts of milk, there is eight grams of protein,
but there's 12 grams of sugars because it's all the lactose and you're like, well, but
then I mean, it's 12 grams of carbohydrates.
So again, you're still saying whatever.
Okay.
Um, so let's move on though.
Can we talk about healthy plate?
Yeah.
That's more what I'm interested in.
Yeah, cause in 2011, the USDA created my plate, which is what is still currently used to focus
on all the food groups being a part of your diet, which this I absolutely love because
half of your plate should be fruits and vegetables.
I remember you saying a while back that you were not with of the my plate.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
Did I might've been my other super healthy friend.
I mean, cause this is half half of your plate should definitely remembered you saying it
was bullshit.
The my plate, the my healthy plate or the healthy plate.
My plate.
I don't know.
Did I, I mean, I'm just seeing it here now.
I'm like, it's not so bad.
I don't know that I would say that dairy has to be included and that's part of it, but
I don't think it's so bad.
I thought you said it was bad.
Did I say that Ellen?
So I'm on the carnivore diet.
Cause I was like, well, yeah, I'm going to go back through ringing a bell.
I don't know if it was chat GPT cause it's got all our transcripts in there.
But, oh, well, you don't remember you saying that at some point.
I mean, it's a good division.
I, okay.
Well, I wonder what context that was in.
You said, I said, what about a healthy plate?
And you were like, that is so much bullshit.
I hate that.
I would never eat that way.
It's so bad for you.
That's how it went.
That is how it went.
I guess I'll have to take your word for it.
That's what she said, wasn't it?
She was like, if you follow the healthy plate, you're super unhealthy.
You're an idiot.
You're that.
Yeah, that's exactly.
You're an idiot.
I don't know if that's the case.
So it's like, yeah, because I mean, I've looked at this when I'm trying to like, I don't know,
figure out how to feed my kids and shit.
I like that it's super simple, but I know you don't.
You're such a liar, but do you have, do you?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What am I a liar about?
That you've looked at this?
Yes, I have feed your kids.
Yes, I have.
Okay, ma'am.
Try.
I'm just fighting that part of your homeschooling curriculum.
No, it's just part of like being a parent trying to figure out how the, how am I supposed
to feed my kids today?
How do their muffins?
What are the rules?
Listen, you know what?
Cupcakes without frosting for breakfast.
When you know better, you do better.
That's true.
Have you been, what do they eat now for breakfast?
Are you going to give me, are you going to give me a chance to learn and grow and become
better?
I would love to.
So what are they doing now for breakfast?
Like what the girls have this morning for breakfast?
Currently they have eggs because that's what we eat.
Oh, that's true.
That's right.
We have not, I haven't bought muffins in a long time actually.
That's moving in the right direction.
Good job.
Sometimes they do have cereal.
I'm so proud of you.
You know?
Yep.
So the healthy plate does seem simpler because you just divide your plate into sections for
veggies, protein and carbs.
So exactly.
I don't, I don't feel like that sounds bad for somebody who struggles with portion control,
which a lot of people do struggle with portion control.
It's a good visual.
How your plate should look.
It's nice and clean.
Definitely.
So, so I like it.
I like it too.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but it, but it's going to probably change
again in three to five years.
Or maybe just next year.
Could be.
We don't know.
I don't know in five years.
Stay tuned.
I'm sure they'll come out with something because they were learning more every day about the
body and what makes us healthy, what makes us not healthy.
And I'm exhausted.
So there we go.
It's all we got.
That's great.
Love this topic.
Do you have anything else you'd like to say about this?
No.
That's all I had.
Okay.
No, I am, I'm, I really thought you were going to go in and be like healthy plate is bullshit.
Everything.
Cause no, mine was like the old school food pyramid is kind of wild.
Like when you go back and look and see, okay, this is kind of what we used to have for the
information back then.
It is crazy.
And that's what we thought we were doing was right.
And it's like, no, I feel like maybe I'm being a little bit dramatic and saying this, but
like food pyramid included yet aside, I feel like we just were not prepared well for the
world that, that we know I handed as adults in a sense.
Well, and I definitely think that it, our food has definitely changed, which we've kind
of talked about already too, right?
I mean, it just, it's changed for sure.
Has changed.
Um, and the quality and everything's different.
But it's sometimes like, you can't avoid it though either.
So it's just like, how can you try to be the best you possibly can?
Cause unless you're going to go off the grid, raise your own food, all of the, all of the
things.
So there you go.
You can't, you can't actually get away from it.
You're just trying to do the best that you can.
And otherwise you're going to get super stressed out about it.
I feel like if you're really thinking too much and just focused on half your plate being
fruits and veggies, great source of protein strains, not try to eat things out of the
box.
Stay away from the complex process, carbohydrate stuff, simple whole foods, versions, grains.
What kind of bread do you buy for your family?
I try to stay away from it.
We did go through a stage where we did like the Ezekiel bread that's all sprouted.
Yeah.
But lately it's been the Dave's good seed bread.
It's frozen here.
I don't think it's always on like in the frozen section.
Sometimes it's on the shelves, but it's, it's we, it's like, I don't know.
Have your kids ever had white, just some good old, big old fat pieces, Sarah Lee classic
white.
I think at my mom's house, cause she still kind of has some of that stuff around or,
you know, we, that you have to use to make good French toast.
Yeah.
Or like, I do like a good slice of just white bread.
But for me, those that's in my sometimes foods that if we go out to eat for breakfast, that's
when I'll get like a white slice and use that as my opportunity.
But no, for me to buy, I think maybe a few years ago I made like use Texas toast to make
Oh, French toast, Texas toast, which is a good white, white bread, right?
French toast.
I think one of them requested it for their birthday or something and I made it, but it's
been a while.
You said a staple anymore.
Yeah.
And I mean, no, for my kids.
Yeah.
They still, I mean, I started off like back when they were little, like I bought white
bread.
So that's just, that's what they expect.
Yeah.
So to get them to transition to even like whole wheat has been a challenge.
I try, I try to sneak it in.
And supposedly Sarah Lee has a version.
It's like, it's like white with whole grain.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I've had that before.
Yeah.
They are like not, not to my doing, but they are stuck on it now.
So I'm trying to kind of work them back out of it, but they're on a bagel kick right now.
Not my favorite.
We do bagels unless, unless I've got eggs where I've made like for scrambled eggs to
have as a side or whatever.
But yeah, you know, a bagel is just not going to get you through to lunchtime, unfortunately
very quickly or easily.
So I try to make sure there's protein in there too.
But anyways, it's good.
I want to be like you.
Well, you can't kind of already made some choices and some habits.
Hey, you can always change.
Yeah, you can.
Your kids though are going to be harder.
Yeah, possibly just kind of depends, but you know, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
Right.
Good times.
Well, do the best you can try to be 1% better.
No better do better.
Yeah, sure.
It does now.
Okay.
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