1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Welcome to Nacho Fitness Coach, where we're all about keeping it real in the world of fitness. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,440 I'm Sarah, your go-to fitness professional cutting through the BS to bring you the truth. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,560 And I'm Kaylee, your fitness newbie, here to ask the questions you're too afraid to ask. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,720 From crunches to kale, we've got the inside scoop on what works and what doesn't. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,440 Because fitness should be fun. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:26,520 So Kaylee, what do you like to listen to when you work out? 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,200 I don't know, sometimes a podcast and sometimes music. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Hey wait, this is a podcast. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,480 What if you could have both? 10 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:36,440 At the same time? 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Oh yeah! 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:46,320 Podbeat is a free mobile 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00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:29,880 Don't ask me how. 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,760 I don't think that's even a correct statement. 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,760 Is it true? 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,760 How are they scientifically correlated? 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Is there a white paper or something? 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Whatever those things are called. 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,480 You're the expert. 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,600 I mean, I just noticed that you've got your swarrows on tonight. 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,600 So I do. 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,600 I love my swarrows. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Uh huh. 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,600 We have them. 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,600 We're twinsies. 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,520 I should have worn mine tonight too because you had them on the last time too. 39 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,840 We have several pairs of same-sies shoes. 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,840 What? 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,840 Well, these and our Flux. 42 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,240 Oh yeah, we do have our Flux. 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,080 Yeah, which made it on our cartoons. 44 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Yeah, that's what we're wearing in our cartoons. 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Yeah, our hot pink Flux. 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,760 We do like those. 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,760 I do like those. 48 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,140 I'm just trying to be like you. 49 00:02:08,140 --> 00:02:09,140 You found both of these. 50 00:02:09,140 --> 00:02:10,140 Yeah, you copied me. 51 00:02:10,140 --> 00:02:15,000 I mean, the Flux was popping up on my Instagram ads because they were from, they're in Kearney, 52 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 right? 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Isn't that the whole deal? 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Yeah, locally. 55 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,080 So those are good shoes. 56 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,080 Those are great shoes. 57 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,120 Although I will say, and I think I realized after the fact, remember I told you that they 58 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,640 were designed to be worn without socks? 59 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,840 Yeah, and I don't really get that because- 60 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,880 I think I was wrong. 61 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:35,000 I think the ones that we ordered are not designed to wear without socks, but I think since then 62 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,080 they came out with a type- 63 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,360 Ones that are, because I would say the rubber sole on those when you get sweaty or not great. 64 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,040 I tried to wear them without socks and it was not- 65 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,120 I wear them without socks just around the shop. 66 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,120 You don't wear socks. 67 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,120 I don't wear socks. 68 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,360 So I do wear them without socks, but I would not choose to run in those. 69 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Do your feet just smell horrible all the time? 70 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Do they? 71 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,280 I don't know. 72 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Do you want to smell them? 73 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,280 Yeah. 74 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,280 That's so- 75 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,840 My kids do get stinky feet because they also don't wear socks and especially my three-year-old, 76 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,880 she's still rear-facing and I'm a little bit of a clean freak with inside of my car. 77 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,360 And so I don't put her in her rear-facing car seat with her shoes on. 78 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,360 Wow. 79 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,880 So I take her shoes off every time she crawls into the car and so that way she can stay 80 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,440 rear-facing and it's not on my seat at all. 81 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,040 And so hers do get kind of fresh. 82 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,400 The rest of them have theirs on. 83 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,440 For a while I had two that were rear-facing and so I was doing that with both of them 84 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,680 and yeah, I would get a little, you know, number two would be in the back seat. 85 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Yeah, feet without- 86 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Why does it smell like stinky feet in here? 87 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,960 I'm like, well, because I took their shoes off so they don't mark up my feet. 88 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Feet without socks. 89 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:49,440 I would rather have a marked up seat then, but I also don't drive a $80,000 vehicle. 90 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,440 There we go. 91 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:56,080 I would rather take care of my mom bus as much as I can. 92 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Some things we're just, we wear the same shoes. 93 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,960 We don't drive the same vehicle. 94 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,880 It's fine. 95 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,440 You also only have two kids. 96 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Yeah. 97 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,080 I mean, I couldn't fit all of my children in your vehicle. 98 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Your Jeep probably. 99 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Does your Jeep have a third row? 100 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,520 No, it's just two. 101 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,640 See, so I mean, I just really didn't have a choice in the matter. 102 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,000 We just needed more available spaces for car seats. 103 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,520 I'm really crazy about car seats. 104 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,200 You made the choice to have kids. 105 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Yeah. 106 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,320 Nearly half a dozen children. 107 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,320 Yeah. 108 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,400 And we do make the choice to be very picky about car seats. 109 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Like they're all still in car seats, high back boosters, and we're kind of anal retentive 110 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,880 about that for sure. 111 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Yeah. 112 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,120 So we needed to have a vehicle big enough that they could be in their car seats correctly 113 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,120 buckled in safely. 114 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,120 I get it. 115 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,120 All of those things. 116 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,120 Anyway. 117 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,980 So we're going to get to the children's room and we are then going to move from the episode 118 00:04:50,980 --> 00:04:54,480 last week into shoes because I didn't know it was your saguaros. 119 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Mm-hmm. 120 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,040 It's my second pair of saguaros. 121 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Yeah. 122 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,040 I like them actually. 123 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,640 The kids wear them because that's the one barefoot shoe that's reasonably priced. 124 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,640 They're like $40. 125 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:10,040 They come in kid sizes because so many of them, you don't have toddler options and they 126 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,320 are super fabulous. 127 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,640 And so then I just throw them in the washing machine. 128 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,880 Like when they get a little too stinky, like I wash them and let them dry. 129 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,160 But I've got my field grounds on which I equally do love as well. 130 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Just because they're a little bit more of like a loafer, you know, but either wide. 131 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,900 And so as I looked down, I saw your shoes and my shoes and like, oh, we should talk 132 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:30,880 about a picture that I recently saw. 133 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,320 And I know I can't remember time out just in case we have listeners who do not know 134 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,600 about our preference for barefoot shoes. 135 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,600 Yeah. 136 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,600 Let's give a quick rundown. 137 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,600 Yeah. 138 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:49,000 I am a huge proponent of barefoot shoes and I'm trying to look back now really quick to 139 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,880 even go back and remember one episode. 140 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,200 It was season one. 141 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Yeah. 142 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,200 You don't freaking know that. 143 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Actually, I do. 144 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,000 It was season one, episode 12. 145 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,960 No, because that was 75 hard. 146 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,760 Season one, episode 12 was 75 hard. 147 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Didn't we do a shoes one? 148 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,000 I feel like we called it. 149 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Hold on. 150 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Let's do season two footwear. 151 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Oh, but we recorded this at some point recorded it while we were recording season one and 152 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,720 we did. 153 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,440 So but we put it in season two and it's episode three and it was a footwear episode. 154 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:27,840 And so we talked about shoes at that point of us talking about it. 155 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,880 Had you ventured into the barefoot shoes yet? 156 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,880 Yeah. 157 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,200 You had introduced me to barefoot shoes because when I met you, you were wearing the silliest. 158 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,200 Oh yeah. 159 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,600 My V brims, which I love those. 160 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,120 They're like glove shoes that they've got the toes individual compartment. 161 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,320 They're shoes, but it's like toe socks, but shoes. 162 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,320 I don't wear toe socks. 163 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,320 I don't wear socks. 164 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Well, I'm just trying to. 165 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Yes. 166 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,640 If you were to wear socks, you do have to buy special socks that you have a special 167 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,200 compartment for each toe. 168 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Yeah. 169 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Just so, so silly. 170 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,680 It does freak some people out, which is actually kind of funny to see people's reactions because 171 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,040 I can tell the ones that notice it and the ones that don't. 172 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,160 These have like, it's just like they're flirting with it. 173 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,160 Yeah. 174 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,160 Which is why Gavin won't wear them. 175 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,160 Oh really? 176 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Yeah. 177 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,360 Because I think at some point somebody made, you know, he's at the age where he's paying 178 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,680 attention to other people's comments. 179 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,080 And so he's like, no, mom, those look like they have toes. 180 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,080 And I was like, but they don't. 181 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,000 So I do wish their rubber was a little bit more smooth across the front. 182 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,880 I've had people ask if they like, are those water shoes? 183 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,240 I do think some people maybe use them for that. 184 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,240 I don't know. 185 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,640 I love these shoes, but anyway, so barefoot shoes are essentially their shoes with a wide 186 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:39,400 toe box because traditional shoes that we wear nowadays, these days is that they have 187 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,520 a narrow toe box where it's like scrunching your toes together in a very unnatural way. 188 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,080 And eventually your toes just become like that. 189 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,200 And that is the case for most, especially in Western society. 190 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Yeah. 191 00:07:53,200 --> 00:08:00,880 And then when you look at our general overball, health, mobility, overball, overall, overall 192 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:07,520 ball balls, that balls still on my mind. 193 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,160 But when you look at our overall health and wellness and, you know, there's a big grounding 194 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:19,160 kind of thing that's real and, you know, having your feet on the ground, natural. 195 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,040 And you know, and like the yoga world, they talk about like being able to like root into 196 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:30,280 the ground and spreading your toes and all the things in your gait changes or how your 197 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,160 feet move on the ground will change your knees, your hips, and how everything kind of stacks 198 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,160 up from your feet. 199 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,760 And so if you're starting to have issues with your feet, it can cause so many other problems. 200 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,800 And how many of those problems are caused by the shoes that you're wearing? 201 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Yeah. 202 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,800 It's a real thing. 203 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,720 The shoes that are out like available to buy that people are buying because that's the 204 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,480 shoes that yeah, Nike's, Adidas, you know, they're narrow. 205 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Allegedly. 206 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,480 They're very, very narrow. 207 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,080 They're messing up our feet. 208 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,080 Yeah they are. 209 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Big time. 210 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,080 And then you're trying to run like a lot of those things. 211 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,640 You're like, okay, this is my running shoe. 212 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,640 Right. 213 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,960 So now not only is your foot restricted in how it's moving, but now you're trying to 214 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:18,200 go do something physical and active and like running, you're putting an extra 12 to 15 215 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,600 times force of gravity on your body and on your joints and then it's not actually moving 216 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,600 correctly. 217 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,920 When you think about like a newborn baby's foot. 218 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Oh yeah. 219 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,920 They're wide. 220 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,920 The way that their toes are. 221 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:28,920 They're like a display. 222 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,120 And then over time throughout your life, like you look at my feet, even now still I've been 223 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,760 wearing barefoot shoes for a couple of years now, a year, year probably. 224 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,720 And no, my feet and I have bunions because I've been there. 225 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,880 There are people that say the bunions are caused from shoes. 226 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,360 I have no doubt about it. 227 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,560 It has to be. 228 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:47,560 Yeah. 229 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:48,560 Look at the way that shoes are designed. 230 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:52,080 Like my, my toes have been crammed into these narrow little toe barkers. 231 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,080 You do. 232 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,760 You look at any baby, any toddler, their shoes, their feet do not come out looking like that. 233 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:58,760 No, at all. 234 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,760 They're not bent. 235 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,520 You don't have that huge bunion, like all of the things like pop, whatever. 236 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,680 So the other thing about barefoot shoes generally is that there's a zero drop, right? 237 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:13,840 Zero where your heel and your toes essentially hit the ground at the same level, right? 238 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,000 More like in a pair of Nikes, you're going to see like your heels actually higher, higher 239 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 up. 240 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Usually I think, yeah, it's just like not a level. 241 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,560 No, there's a percent grade that it will be enough difference. 242 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:29,480 And the other thing too, that's kind of crazy about running shoes with tons of cushion is 243 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,880 a lot of them will roll your gate in or they'll roll your gate out. 244 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:43,240 So if you have a natural foot motion, but then you pick a shoe that is the other way, 245 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,480 how that will create issues too. 246 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,440 And it affects your knees, all the things, all the knees, the hips, ankles, all of the 247 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,440 things. 248 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:58,240 So, you know, when I was running a lot years ago, I started having IT band issues. 249 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,120 And you know, in that runner's world, they're like, okay, go get fit for new shoes, make 250 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,640 sure it's a half size bigger. 251 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,120 You know, maybe you need custom orthotics. 252 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,920 And of course, when you start training for like a longer race, you don't want to miss 253 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,200 the race due to injury. 254 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,600 So you get to a certain point where like I'll try anything just to be able to do what I 255 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,440 started off to do to finish. 256 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,640 And so I went through everything about new shoes, because also to running shoes, they'll 257 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,080 have a mileage expiration on them. 258 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,920 You want to make sure that you're paying attention to that. 259 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,600 And then, you know, there I was like, okay, so went through, switched out the shoes, still 260 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,440 having the issues, went and had custom orthotics made, still having the issues, went to an 261 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,760 orthopedic surgeon and they gave me a, oh my gosh, what are those shots? 262 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,200 The it's not quarter zone shot. 263 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,200 Is it a quarter zone shot? 264 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Yeah, a quarter zone shot. 265 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,840 All of a sudden I was like, quarter zone is what you rub on your skin, right? 266 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,600 But yeah, but you can get a shot too. 267 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,200 Okay, well, that's what the quarter zone shot. 268 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,600 And they, you know, to try to put it in my joint or whatever. 269 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 And when, so then I was having all these issues. 270 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,200 I think the race was done and why haven't some of my family lives in California? 271 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,440 Well any trend starts naturally on the coast and it takes years before it hits us in the 272 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,440 Midwest. 273 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,440 She was visiting in the summer. 274 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,800 I was talking about my issues and all the things and she had, she was wearing the V-brums 275 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,480 and she's like, I used to have so many ankle issues and I don't have them any now because 276 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,920 I've switched to these barefoot shoes. 277 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,120 And I was like, huh, I wonder, I'm going to do that. 278 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,680 And so I went cold turkey, swalls to the walls, the wall, cause that's just kind of my MO 279 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:29,000 in general and swapped straight for the V-brums. 280 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,880 I think at one point in time I had six different colors, all the things. 281 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Cause then I would wash them. 282 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Cause again, I don't wear socks. 283 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,120 They get stinky after a few weeks. 284 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Rotate them through and I have not had an issue with my knee since. 285 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:47,480 So I jumped on the barefoot bandwagon, you know, oh my gosh, how long ago would that 286 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,480 have been? 287 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,840 15 years ago? 288 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Decades. 289 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,840 20. 290 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,840 Holy cow. 291 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,840 That was a long time ago. 292 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,840 It is decades. 293 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,840 You were not wrong. 294 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,840 So 20 years ago that became the thing. 295 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,160 And then the V-brums hit and that was probably only 15 years ago. 296 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,920 Cause I feel like I had met my husband at that point in time cause he bought a pair, 297 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,720 you know, and we just, I haven't looked back since now. 298 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,920 I don't, I don't. 299 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,640 She don't wear shoes that are not barefoot. 300 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,320 I don't rarely, rarely see you in a pair of shoes that aren't barefoot shoes. 301 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,680 I've been on it for about a year, I guess. 302 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:19,680 Yeah. 303 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:21,240 I've been on it for a year. 304 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,800 My issue has always been flat feet, very flat feet. 305 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,280 I have zero arches. 306 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,280 Yeah. 307 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,840 My ankles almost like, well not even almost, my ankles cave in. 308 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,840 Yeah. 309 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:35,080 And you always hear when you have flat feet, you always hear like get shoes that have a 310 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,680 lot of arch support, which basically means like fabricate an arch. 311 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:42,080 For something that's not there. 312 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,080 Yeah. 313 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,080 Force it into your foot. 314 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Which that sounds super comfortable. 315 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,320 That was horrible. 316 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,840 And you, you know, so when you, when you even started talking to me about barefoot shoes, 317 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 I was like, well, I, that's not an option for me because I don't have. 318 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Right. 319 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,760 I have arches. 320 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,120 But I have never, since I switched, cause I would have an IT band issues too before I 321 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,120 switched. 322 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Yeah. 323 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,120 Haven't had it. 324 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Well, I did have an issue during our 5k. 325 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,120 Yeah. 326 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,120 That was flared up a little bit. 327 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,080 I think that was the last time I had an issue with it. 328 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,800 I mean, I will say the ones that have the thinner soles like the saguaros or the V-brums 329 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,640 that are just really kind of like a straight like rubber, a thin rubber sole, those are 330 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:23,600 not great for running on gravel or like trails that say have white rock, like the crush rock 331 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,600 can be fine. 332 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,360 But if you have like big white rock parking lots, they do get a little uncomfortable if 333 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,480 you're, if you're walking in that. 334 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,700 So it's good to have some options, but no, I have got, and I found a bunch of different 335 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:40,080 like the Vivo barefoot and now this is, these are just the field grounds. 336 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,960 So there's some different brands that are piping up. 337 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,560 What's crazy though is a lot of these are overseas. 338 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Like they're in Europe. 339 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Yeah. 340 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,360 So if you order them, it takes forever to get them because they're having to come from 341 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,360 another country. 342 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,360 We don't have a lot of great options here. 343 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:00,200 Now the flux is US based and the story to that one, it was an old Reebok designer and 344 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,240 that he spun off and he's created this brand and they are zero drop, but they do have cushion 345 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,240 on the bottom. 346 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,240 So they've got some rubber. 347 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Yeah. 348 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,080 They've got, for the most part, it looks like a normal shoe. 349 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,960 But from the top it is, you can, you can tell the difference in the wide toe box. 350 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,920 It is kind of like a, it's almost like a clown shoe. 351 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,920 And I hate to use that term, but it is like a, well, but you know, your natural shoe, 352 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,760 your natural foot is wider and bigger. 353 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,720 And so it's just, and the, the materials that they use in are a little bit more like of 354 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,380 a stretchy kind of material. 355 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:38,120 It's not restrictive by like leather and the stitches and all of the things. 356 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,160 So they're easy to slip on, slip off. 357 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,360 I mean, I've had a lot of the casual shoes. 358 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:50,240 I do like these that I have on right now because they are more of like a comfy, casual loafer 359 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,040 looking thing. 360 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Um, see, I have those fit kicks. 361 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,520 You remember when I ordered those? 362 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Yeah. 363 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,520 I mean, have I seen those yet? 364 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Yeah. 365 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,520 I wear them all the time. 366 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,120 They're like, they look like a, people are like, why are you wearing socks? 367 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Oh yeah. 368 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,120 Yeah. 369 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,800 Those are kind of a slippery, but it has a rubbery rubber bottom. 370 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 But then it looks like a little sleeve on the top. 371 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Yeah. 372 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,840 I wear them everywhere. 373 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,840 I know they're so comfortable. 374 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,840 Yeah. 375 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,160 So now that you have no arches, have you had any problems with your feet since you've made 376 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,160 the switch? 377 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,160 No. 378 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,640 I mean, cause they do suggest for some people, like my husband used to have issues with, 379 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,520 oh my gosh, what's one of those foot issues they have? 380 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,520 You got to tape your arch. 381 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,520 Falling? 382 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:31,520 No, it wasn't falling arches. 383 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,560 What did he deal with? 384 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,080 And so they'll say, if you do have feet that aren't great now, or you've gotten your deal 385 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,020 with something to ease into them, you know, you can start with just wearing barefoot shoes 386 00:16:42,020 --> 00:16:44,120 for an hour or two and then switch back. 387 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,040 And then the next day, I didn't have any issues. 388 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,560 I just started going for it. 389 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Plantar fasciitis. 390 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,560 That's what I was going to say, but I didn't think it was right. 391 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Yeah. 392 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:53,560 It is. 393 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,560 I'm tired. 394 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,560 She's like yawning over here. 395 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,560 I'm like, oh, okay, there we go. 396 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,360 We're just going to keep rolling through it though. 397 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,360 I mean, come on now. 398 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,360 I'm here. 399 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,080 So we love barefoot shoes. 400 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,080 I love barefoot shoes. 401 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,080 I've been a huge proponent of them for a very long time. 402 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:13,520 I think people underestimate the issues that it creates or like we also are a barefoot 403 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,520 house. 404 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Yeah. 405 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,240 Mostly because for me it's a germ factor. 406 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,920 It's my OCD thing, but that at least forces us to walk around with our natural bare feet 407 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,880 while we are home. 408 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,240 You know, if you're wearing your shoes all day and then wearing your shoes all day at 409 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,200 your house and you're like constantly supported and then you wonder why you're having foot 410 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,200 issues. 411 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,200 That's just one of those things. 412 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,200 I might tell you why. 413 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,720 That's so just like accepted by everybody because there's some people I've talked to 414 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,200 about barefoot shoes and they're like, no, that's looks silly. 415 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,200 I'm going to pass. 416 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,960 And I'm like, but it's better for your foot. 417 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,460 So here's the actually that people really just don't care. 418 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:52,000 Why would they want to be better? 419 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,520 I don't know. 420 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,960 You know, they complain about feeling like garbage and everything hurts. 421 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,840 But then when you actually tell them the most simple answer of what it would take to feel 422 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,360 better, they're like, no, that looks stupid. 423 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,360 I don't care. 424 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,360 I don't care either. 425 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:09,320 I will look dumb as much as possible because guess what? 426 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,860 My feet are good and I feel healthy and all of the things. 427 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:17,800 So I did see a video recently though that it was actually a post and now I can't remember 428 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,080 where it popped on. 429 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,160 I'm sure it was an account that I follow, but they did a video not only about if your 430 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,280 shoes are restricting your feet, but are your socks restricting your feet? 431 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Yeah. 432 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,280 And that is a thing. 433 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,440 And so what they did was they took and this is, you know what? 434 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:39,240 If you don't believe us of how big of a difference it makes, you should do this exercise at home 435 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,720 just for funsies. 436 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,120 Because I mean, why not? 437 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:46,200 So they put like a white piece of paper down on the floor and they put their bare foot 438 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,200 on it. 439 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,400 And then they use, you know, just like you do when you're in elementary school and you 440 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,400 trace around it. 441 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,440 So you're like, okay, this is like, I'm standing up. 442 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,560 This is my natural foot and here's whatever. 443 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,400 Then go put your sock on. 444 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,080 And see how much it changes the shape of your foot. 445 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,160 And then put it back down in that exact same spot and then trace around that and then try 446 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,160 all the different ones. 447 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,080 So I mean, they, they did Reebok. 448 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,720 They did, you know, all of like your basic socks that you would put on and they traced 449 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,120 them and they were all, and then they shaded in the area that was like different, like 450 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,080 how much it was restricting it into the middle. 451 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,720 And so the only one there was like a finger toe, like a toe sock, you know, that has your 452 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,720 individual toes. 453 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Then obviously that was the same. 454 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,760 And there was one other one that I feel like was a barefoot sock kind of, barefoot socks 455 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,680 that was close, but it still was not, it was still not exactly like crazy the way it should 456 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,680 be. 457 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,200 And so, yeah, I mean, it was really kind of interesting to me because I just, it seemed 458 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,040 like I hadn't considered as much, I guess about the socks, right? 459 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,040 Because, okay, fine. 460 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,000 You don't wear shoes at home. 461 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Every morning when I put socks on and I think I probably shouldn't be doing this. 462 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Sarah wouldn't do this. 463 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 Sarah wouldn't put socks on. 464 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,680 But I also don't want my feet to smell like Sarah's, you know? 465 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,480 But you don't know that mine smell. 466 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,960 I imagine that they do. 467 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,960 Let's do it. 468 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,960 I don't want you to smell. 469 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,280 She's just taking her shoes off. 470 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,680 No, I want to smell them. 471 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,680 Get it up here. 472 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,120 I mean, they smell like my shoe, I feel like. 473 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:17,400 But do you think that's any worse than yours? 474 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,400 Do yours. 475 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,400 You're gonna do it first and then I'll do it. 476 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,400 No, you do it first. 477 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,400 I mean, that still smells too. 478 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,400 You can't reach it? 479 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,400 Smells like a sock. 480 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,880 Yeah, it smells like a foot. 481 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,880 It does. 482 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,880 It smells like the inside of my shoe. 483 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,880 So it just depends, you know. 484 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,880 I know. 485 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,840 If I would actually, I mean, I haven't washed these since I got them. 486 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,840 Oh. 487 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,840 Does yours not smell? 488 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:56,560 It smells like your detergent. 489 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,560 It's your detergent. 490 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Yeah, this smells really like. 491 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Do you want to smell her shoes? 492 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,560 She was coming over to get a whiff. 493 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,560 Do you want to smell? 494 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,560 I don't think you want to smell. 495 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,560 It's a contest. 496 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Yours smells like your detergent because you're wearing socks that you just washed. 497 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,360 Mine does not smell great. 498 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:23,360 It doesn't. 499 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:24,360 I knew it. 500 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:25,360 I had a suspicion. 501 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:26,640 But it smells like the shoe. 502 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,640 Well, it smells like the. 503 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,640 I mean, it's. 504 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,920 But this is also why I wash mine regularly. 505 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080 I do like the Pepsi challenge. 506 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,680 I don't think I think you'll very clearly know like which one is which. 507 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,120 I mean, that smells like laundry detergent because she's got her socks on that she is. 508 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,120 See? 509 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:47,000 Yeah, there you go, Kaylee. 510 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,400 It's my mistake. 511 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,960 It smells like shoe shit. 512 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,960 You meant shit. 513 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Oh, see, I was like, it's not bad. 514 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,520 He was expecting it to be way worse. 515 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,520 I think I just. 516 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,520 You're a farm girl. 517 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,520 It smells like a farm. 518 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,520 But a farm. 519 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,520 But yeah, I'll take that. 520 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,520 I grew up on a farm. 521 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Yeah, it does smell like a farm. 522 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,520 But I'm not mad about that either way. 523 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,520 I'll take it with pride. 524 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:17,520 But anyways, I mean, your socks are newly laundered and so you clearly don't use unscented. 525 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,040 No, I don't. 526 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Popcorn that's under your. 527 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,040 Um, yeah, sorry. 528 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,040 There. 529 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,480 I mean, so if I just watched mine, I'm sure it wouldn't be as bad. 530 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,240 And then so the last time that we did an episode about feet, I introduced you to the world 531 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,040 of you introduced me to barefoot shoes. 532 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,400 I think, right? 533 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,200 Well, not well that to selling feet, selling feet pictures. 534 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,560 Have you made much money on that? 535 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,760 No, of course not. 536 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,080 But I did actually have a chiropractor once tell me that I did have night like good feet 537 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,080 compared to. 538 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,000 You can tell like my feet compared to your feet like you have like, like you can tell 539 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,360 that I have not spent. 540 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,360 Yeah. 541 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,360 As much. 542 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,360 I mean, yeah, they're good feet. 543 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:56,360 I'll take them. 544 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:57,360 I pay for those. 545 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,360 I mean, would you? 546 00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,720 Well, shit, maybe I should be me. 547 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,480 But yeah, I mean, you can make money on those. 548 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,960 I spread out like my toes. 549 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,920 I was actually like pounding my toes on the ground. 550 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,320 They don't like showing that I have a toast. 551 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,320 I don't know. 552 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,480 They call it something where you're like, you know, your toes. 553 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,440 Play, play, play, play. 554 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,440 Sure. 555 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,440 Oh, man. 556 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,440 You know, there we go. 557 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,240 But I do think I did think that was really interesting video that when it popped up, 558 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,160 I was like, oh, yeah, you know, people we talk about shoes a lot. 559 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,640 But then it's like, what are your socks? 560 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,200 Because even if you say don't wear your shoes in your house, you get home, you kick them 561 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,200 off. 562 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Well, if you've been wearing the same socks all day, then you're still just as restricted 563 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,200 as you were before and just as restricted. 564 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,240 Well, it depends on the shoes you're wearing. 565 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,240 That's not what your goals are. 566 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,640 You know, depends on what your goals are. 567 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,480 So, you know, I mean, I think it's something that's worth an investment. 568 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,040 I think it's something that is worth changing if you're having issues. 569 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,680 I think it's a thing worth considering. 570 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,920 If you have, yeah, if you have foot issues, if you have knee issues, if you have. 571 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,520 And we even have like slippers at home that I was very particular about. 572 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,360 I was like, OK, if we're going to get slippers for like when it's cold out for like warmth 573 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:13,000 or whatever, I have found ones that are just like leather on the bottom and leather on 574 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,280 the sides and like really super wide and oversized, not ones that are basically like a shoe with 575 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,920 a rubber sole and all the things because I'm like, OK, just because I want to wear. 576 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,240 I got ones that are they are rubber sole on the bottom, but then like the whole top is 577 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,000 like it's kind of like not fuzzy fuzzy, but like a soft, but it does have like a nice 578 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,480 wide like a wide like a moccasin kind of. 579 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,480 Yeah. 580 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Or like a little slip on. 581 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Well, that's the thing. 582 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Like when my kids were little, what were they called? 583 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,080 Robbies or something. 584 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,440 But they were just like a like a leather Robies. 585 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,440 Yeah. 586 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,440 The leather moccasins. 587 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,280 They were in that for the first couple of years. 588 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,640 And then I switched to Crocs. 589 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,040 I mean, Crocs are really great thing for kids because they do have the extra wide kind of 590 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,040 toe box. 591 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,040 I just bought my. 592 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,320 But now I have the sorrows for the first time, like a few months. 593 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,440 And they weren't even like actual like name brand Crocs. 594 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,440 They were Crocs. 595 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Yeah. 596 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,640 But that was always like my biggest flex as a parent was that I had never bought my kids 597 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,200 Crocs and then I broke down because we do take Wando. 598 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,200 What's wrong with Crocs? 599 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,200 I just think they're super, super ugly. 600 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,280 Well, I thought you just said you don't really care what shoes look like. 601 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,280 Well, I care about that. 602 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,680 I care about what my kids have standards. 603 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,160 I've never had a pair of Crocs. 604 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Oh, I love my. 605 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,160 I don't like them. 606 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,880 But every time I see like a tick tock or a video of like there are you have the Croc 607 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,880 charms. 608 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,880 Yeah. 609 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,880 Stick them in little holes. 610 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,880 Yeah. 611 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,880 I'll give you a few. 612 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,960 You can buy those that are little Bluetooth speakers, stick little Bluetooth speakers 613 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,120 in your Croc shoes. 614 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:48,760 There are like a headlight you can stick in your Croc shoes. 615 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,660 Remember the ones I sent you that was like a little snowplow for your class just to go 616 00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:56,640 out and just why not just all so that's so it is kind of silly. 617 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Mine are actually air walk brand because I think the air walks were just enough. 618 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,360 Like the foam on them is a little squishier. 619 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:05,360 Really? 620 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,480 I feel like they were comfortable, like a little bit more comfortable. 621 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,640 The Crocs are a harder rubber to me. 622 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,760 So yeah, I think I mean, Payless isn't even a brand of stores anymore that's open, but 623 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,760 I have the air walks. 624 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Is there no more Payless? 625 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,760 I don't think so. 626 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,320 I think they've all closed out a little bit. 627 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,600 But I mean, it knows where do you find air walks that they were like they're 20 years 628 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,600 old. 629 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,600 I mean, they're back when I first moved to Kansas City and I was playing softball a lot. 630 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,600 And that's the thing. 631 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Like we would play all day all weekend long, slow pitch tournaments and you would play a 632 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,240 game so you'd have your cleats on. 633 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Well, I didn't want to have to take and I also couldn't put dirty socks back on that 634 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,960 just drives me nuts. 635 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,680 So I was like, if I've got these socks on, then I'm just keeping them on. 636 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,520 So a lot of us would wear Crocs then because it was the easy way to take your cleats off, 637 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,080 but then I have to take your socks off. 638 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,080 That's what I bought the girls. 639 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,080 And they're airy. 640 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,080 Taekwondo. 641 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Yeah, just go in and kick them off. 642 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,640 Yeah, I have to do the whole. 643 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,640 Yep. 644 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,360 The whole like thing and like the on and off and when they kind of slip on and slip off. 645 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:10,600 So but yeah, I just I think it's a good topic and I think it's worth checking out if you 646 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,120 if you haven't yet ventured into that world. 647 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,640 Of course, I highly recommend. 648 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,640 I would agree. 649 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,640 I concur. 650 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,600 And if you want to see Sarah's feet, subscribe to her only fans. 651 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,400 I don't have it. 652 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,200 But if you are interested in purchasing feet picks, then I mean, I'll I guess can I can 653 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,200 you do that? 654 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,000 You probably need to run that by your husband. 655 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,260 It's just feet and it's money. 656 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:34,260 Can you get paid for that? 657 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:36,800 Well, you know what they're doing with those pictures, right? 658 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,800 No. 659 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,120 They're just admiring them. 660 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:48,440 They might they might put them in a nice oak frame or something. 661 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800 You don't know what people are buying feet picks for. 662 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,800 No. 663 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,040 So, you know, Ellen knows what I was like. 664 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,040 I don't think I would be educated on this because this is not what I was expecting for 665 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,040 it. 666 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,040 I didn't know. 667 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,720 I didn't really know this was a thing in the first place, but I definitely didn't know. 668 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,720 It's a fetish. 669 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,220 Well, I understand the fetish, but I literally thought it was just like that you like looking 670 00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:11,720 at them. 671 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,040 But no, apparently there's more to it. 672 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,400 No, they don't just look at them. 673 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,400 OK. 674 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,440 Well, that's weird. 675 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,000 It's good money. 676 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,760 That's why I said you should probably run it by your husband. 677 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,760 OK. 678 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Well, maybe I won't be doing that. 679 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,800 I mean, I definitely do not have an only fans anyway, so it's fine. 680 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,200 But she does have an only fan. 681 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,200 I do not. 682 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,840 I remember this is like the one account that I have accounts for a lot of other things, 683 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,960 but that is not one of them. 684 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,960 She does. 685 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Maybe I should. 686 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,960 She does. 687 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,960 He made one for me. 688 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,800 There's enough pictures out there that I like. 689 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,800 Don't Google my name. 690 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,120 You have plenty of free content for a while. 691 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,120 Sarah Sutherland. 692 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,800 I'll be like somebody should catfish me. 693 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,760 And then it's like, oh, wait, it's catfish. 694 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,520 I'm going to be like, oh, my God. 695 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,520 You shocked me. 696 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,520 OK. 697 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Well, are we done? 698 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,520 I think we are. 699 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,520 OK. 700 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,520 Well, I think it's time for us to go. 701 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,520 Right. 702 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,520 I think we are. 703 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,520 OK. 704 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,520 Well, I think it's time for us to go. 705 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,520 Right. 706 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,520 I think we are. 707 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,520 OK. 708 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:27,200 Well, I think it's time for us to go. 709 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,400 Until next 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