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So Kaylee, what do you like to listen to when you work out?
I don't know, sometimes a podcast and sometimes music.
Hey wait, this is a podcast. What if you could have both?
At the same time?
Oh yeah!
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So Kaylee, I have another social media account that's worth discussing.
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Bringing to you only the highest quality content.
Because that's all that can be posted on social media.
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So Dr. Spencer Nadolsky, I first heard him speak as a presentation at a continuing education fitness weekend.
And he has always kind of had a really interesting perspective in his uniqueness and his delivery of his information.
And so he is a medical doctor by trade. He's went to medical school.
He does have a history of, he was a college athlete, I think he was a wrestler, but he's an MD.
He at the time was specializing in obesity, like practicing family medicine obesity.
And he has a program or had a program like Docs Who Lift, like him and his brother did this thing.
Because he feels like in traditional medicine, that is one area that gets underestimated.
It's just prescribing strength training, overall health and wellness, you know, how quickly it can happen.
That just pills get prescribed, right?
And so that's his big thing is he's like, we're Docs Who Lift. We do lift. He stays in shape. All of the things.
I do think he's got some now kind of part in Weight Watchers as a medical.
He's doing something with Weight Watchers now too, just as like their medical advisory person, I feel like.
I'm probably butchering that.
Weight Watchers?
Yeah, I think so. I feel like he's shown some stuff on social media and that.
But anyways, he has really good memes that he posts that are pretty on the point and they can create some controversy.
Sometimes he just does it. I feel like to watch his comments section just blow up.
That's kind of the game right now. It is the game.
I mean, honestly, that's the name of social media in general. Like that's engagement, right?
It doesn't matter if it's positive or negative. It's engagement.
And I think that's one thing people forget to remember about social media.
There's a game. There's like this phenomenon on threads because I spent a lot of time on threads now and people will be like,
if you save one penny for every day of the year, by the end of the year, you will have three billion.
And you're like, no, you're going to have like thirty six dollars and fifty cents.
They're like, let that sink in. And they're they're they're posting it to be funny.
But then like the comments are like, I don't think you did your math right.
And I think thirty six dollars, thirty three dollars and doing exactly like it's yeah, it's doing exactly what it was meant to do.
People kind of feed right into it and don't take it so seriously.
I think that's one thing is we need to just not take social media so seriously because people are gaming it.
Now, at this point, they realize how the algorithms work and all the things.
But anyway, he has high quality content.
If you're interested in getting a direct perspective on some things, he's a really good one.
So his handle for Instagram, for example, is at Dr. Nadolski and that's spelled NADOLSKY.
Is he a young guy or he's he's probably younger than me.
I would say he's that's not maybe around 40.
Most of us are. I don't know if he's hit 40. So he's maybe closer to your age.
He's got a little kid, I think, at this point. So anyways.
But the one that I had kind of saved for us to talk about because I came across it is how to lose weight according to blood type,
because every now and then this will rear its head.
We look at like fitness trends or things that people are sharing or somebody that's trying to sell you something.
They're trying to get you a product based on your blood type because it's your blood type that is going to.
If you play to that, you'll lose weight according to your blood type.
Are you I mean, have you heard this before? No, but I see them.
I see the graph. And so do you fall for that? Would I? Yeah, I wouldn't because I don't know my blood type.
It's like, well, I would require that key piece of information for sure.
That sounds entirely too complicated for me. Like, I don't care.
Yeah, like I'm not going to be like, oh, I have type B.
So I have to lose weight this way. Like, no, that's not that's beyond.
No, I don't. You're not going to subscribe to that.
But I can see how some people might because it feels like a very personalized.
And I think a lot of people are looking for that.
Like, oh, well, I can't lose weight because I'm I have a type A blood.
Yeah. Or whatever. It's kind of like a medical quote unquote medical perspective.
On reasons why you can't lose weight. Good excuse is what we love.
A good excuse. Yeah. I mean, who doesn't?
Coach, I just feel like you got to own it, though, if it's going to be an excuse. Right.
I mean, yeah. So here is a don't fall for it.
My friends, blood types, body types, fecal types, genotypes, all the types someday we will know.
But right now, follow the usual principles of energy balance,
calc, satiating, nutrient dense foods, whole foods, all of like the whole foods, kind of like general rule.
OK, so what's the energy balance? So this chart is saying is that if you have
these are the blood types like group A group B. Yeah.
So if you are if you have your red cell blood type, if you are an A, a B, an AB or if you have blood type O. Right.
You know, he's got like the little molecule of blood like drawn out and how they vary based on your blood type.
And then it even draws in a line to make it more scientifically looking.
Yeah. Right. It says I was actually a little overwhelmed when you pulled this up.
I was like, oh, shit. It's like, what is this?
I can't think about this, but I get it. And then talk about antibodies and plasma.
And so it's got like the anti B and the anti and the none.
And then it's got all the little like, you know, do people know this about themselves?
Blood type. Yeah. Am I supposed to know that?
I mean, I have mine written down in a note on my phone because I can't ever really remember exactly what it is.
But you don't know off the top of your head. No, I don't.
I mean, I can look at it really quick because I'm pretty sure I wrote it as like a blood type
because I was trying to actually keep my kids ones too, because I feel like sometimes I shouldn't.
Am I supposed to know my kids blood type? I should probably ask my mom.
I'm O positive. My husband's O positive.
And so is one. I mean, I think that makes all of our kids positive though.
And then because if we're both the same blood type, I don't think it can be anything different.
So I know for sure my third one is I should ask my mom when my blood type is worse.
How are you going to do that? Where is she?
I wish I could. Anyway, you might know.
I do think one one fast way that people learn their blood type if they don't know is they'll go donate blood
because I think they give you like a report that you ever donated blood once.
You love it. I did not feel good afterwards.
No, I feel very good. I was not.
And I I feel like I've eaten and everything before then, and it just did not make me feel good.
And so I even tried to eat like all the people that like need your blood.
They probably don't feel good either. Well, I feel isn't isn't O the universal.
I don't know nothing about blood. Nothing. I feel like I don't know.
I don't know. Somebody you know out there to be doing this episode.
If you're if you're listening to this and you do know maybe some comments for some comments section,
just like us sliding to our DMS because we don't know. Educate us.
What we do know is that if you are in group A with with this was so the but did these two have to line up?
No, I mean, I think it's just trying to make it look so it's just basically like fancy looking grid
where there's rows and columns and it makes it look like it's a very scientifically studied grid.
How does weight according to your blood type? So how you're blood type, the caloric deficit.
This is the group B blood. Yeah, this is the best part.
It's the third row where it says diet. It's just caloric deficit all the way across group B caloric deficit group.
A B caloric deficit group O caloric deficit turns out the weight.
How did actually somebody actually put the Sandy look at Sandy coming in here.
And he came in with the content from the actual medical journal, Sandy. Oh, this article article has a correction.
When somebody loses weight where it is body, this is a white paper.
If I go, yeah, it is actually. But I don't know why this one has anything to do with blood type.
Maybe I should actually read it. I could. There's some graphs lifting the veil on weight loss.
We don't have time for this right now. I do want to read that. No, but I do actually like scroll through the comments.
We don't have time. Oh, here's one.
What if I'm an ectomorph? And I'm like, that's the best part, because up in his topic and in his content post,
he actually says body types, blood types, fecal types, units. And then the one guy is like, oh, what if I'm an ectomorph?
Is that from Ghostbusters? Oh, that is the ecto though.
Their vehicle ectoplasma is the ecto one is there Alan? It's their Ghostbusters mobile is the ecto one.
But there was a there was a like a goo that was called ectoplasma.
Alan? Yes, you're both correct. Ecto one's the ambulance that they converted.
Yeah, ectoplasm is the green gooey stuff.
But that nothing that has nothing to do with an ectomorph, by the way, ectomorph.
And ectomorph is a is a body type. So this is also another because he kind of mentions that.
So if you have this is a body type. So what it's basically saying is always like anytime somebody like spits some kind of like fitness facts,
there's always people in the comments are like, well, what if? Yeah.
So there's all these different types of body types and it's mesomorph, ectomorph, endomorph.
And so basically it's showing you I don't know my blood type like I care.
But he's also saying that this is also you can't do a diet.
He's also saying that you don't have a diet specifically to your body type.
So there are definitely some people who endomorph stock here.
That's not me. Stock your bone structure medium relatively.
So I'm an ectomorph. Are you more narrow shoulders and hips?
I respect the height, relatively smaller muscles in respect to bone length, naturally fast metabolism, potentially indicative of disordered eating.
There we go. Wonderful.
So mesomorph is a medium bone structure with shoulders wider than the hips developed.
You're a mesomorph. Probably. Yeah.
Efficient metabolism, muscle gain and loss help both happen with in relatively.
I didn't even know these were a thing. Yeah.
Endomorph, you're carrying more body fat throughout your gains.
They're slow, you know, gains weight, gains fat fast and loses it slow, a naturally slower metabolism.
So which this is also what he is saying does not control your diet.
I mean, yes, there are definitely different body types out there because you can tell there's some people that just are more naturally.
I mean, yeah, I didn't know there was like a whole that there's names for him.
So now you know, but yes, that's funny because she totally posted a video or a link to an article that had actually really nothing to do.
So, I mean, bottom line here is and that's kind of what I've like come to find out over the last couple of years is that in order to lose weight,
you have to be in a caloric deficit like that is that you can do it any way you want.
You can do intermittent fasting. You can do the keto diet or the other.
I don't know. The other diet, Atkins, Atkins, whatever kind of diet you want.
But if you're not in a caloric deficit, you're not going to lose weight.
So do whatever you want. Call it whatever you want.
Whatever makes you feel good. At the end of the day, you have to be in a caloric deficit.
That's very true. But now this is where he this is actually the top.
So this is part of the topic when I first heard him do his very first presentation to roomful fitness professionals.
I mean, he talked about obesity, his study of medicine, obesity.
And he said, you know, if there's one thing that you all in this room take away from my conversation right now, just the one thing he does.
The one thing I would like for you to take away is that you are become more empathetic towards people dealing with obesity
because you do get these hard ass trainers that are just like, he last move more like no empathy.
I can do it. You can do it. All that BS.
And so, you know, as he has ventured into this study of obesity and having this, you know, working with those patients and he's like,
it is there's a lot of different reasons why somebody could be dealing with that situation.
And so there's one one question here is like, is obesity genetic or their genetic factors,
which might make it more difficult for someone to lose weight?
You know, they're like apologizing because they're like, sorry, this, you know, this is a stupid question.
But I'm generally wondering. And because he has studied this now so much, he's like, actually, yes.
You know, check my highlight because he's got some some posts that he has that are tagged and highlighted his thing.
So, you know, for him, he definitely feels like there is a genetic component to obesity,
which I'm guessing is a super complex situation.
So that's definitely far outside my scope.
And I would definitely say that is if you fall into that category, this is a great social media account to follow, connect with.
He does a great job with all of us information on that.
I didn't think it just brought up a good topic because every now and then it does kind of pop up in like its own little cycles.
Somebody starts promoting a certain diet that's specific to your biology somehow, whether it's your body type, whether it's your blood type and whatever it might be.
And it's hard because it is like while it on this when I, you know, like go back a couple of minutes ago and I'm like, it all comes down to caloric deficit.
It like, yes, but I think that's not the answer that like is going to solve a lot of people's problems.
Like my caloric deficit isn't necessarily going to look the same as like an obese person's caloric deficit.
You know what I mean? So like me losing weight in that way is not going to look the same as somebody who is struggling with obesity.
No, and he definitely is somebody that he's like, listen, don't there are lots of tools that can help people in their journey and nobody should be shaming anyone with the tools like the.
Oh, what was the more recent like, oh, drug that everyone was using.
Oh, Zepek or whatever it was. Yeah.
And so it's like, you know, that that is a tool that can help people get healthy.
Sometimes it's not just about, you know, physique goals. Sometimes it's literally just getting you from where you're at to healthier and moving in that direction.
You know, don't ever shame anybody that has had say gastric bypass surgery. That is not a shortcut.
That is not any easier of a path. It's maybe something that they're trying because they've probably exhausted a lot of other efforts and they are going to try.
And then I did have there was a coworker of mine years ago where he had a friend that had the gastric bypass surgery and all of a sudden he like just started losing.
I think he had told me at one of the meetings he had just recently lost like 150 pounds or something.
There's a lot. And I was like, you know, just kind of curious and just kind of chat with him about it because he was proud of where he was at.
And I was like, so, you know, how have you done it? You know, he was definitely wanting to talk about it.
And he said, well, I had a friend that had the surgery and all I started doing was eating exactly what they ate. Oh, which was portion control.
Yeah. You know, because when you get that, you know, your stomach size is so small.
And so anyways, he's like, I just started eating only in the amounts that he was able to eat. And so you look at like caloric deficit.
It's really easy to underestimate how much we're truly consuming. And that was his strategy and it worked for him. So but yeah, we what's happened when you've been on Oz up for 20 years.
Oh, he's got some posts about that. Yeah. There's another one about what go we were just same thing.
I don't know. I haven't delved a whole lot into like the whole ismic thing. I mean, I've heard a lot about it. I've seen it.
It's a thing. Well, he just he says the long term, the long term effects of drugs are. Yeah. His comment is a few fewer heart attacks.
I mean, they're probably fewer weight related heart attacks coming out of it. So, you know, at least maybe if that's been a tool that's worked, maybe those people are actually living for another 20 years.
It's like anything else. I think we're going to find out probably, you know, we'll eventually figure out what it what if any bad side effects are going to be.
I I have heard people on Ozempic not personally, but just through social media.
Like there are some people on Ozempic who swear like ruin their life, made them miserable.
There are some people who were like, it changed my life for the better. So, yeah, depends on your goals.
I guess it does. It's kind of kind of catches on now, doesn't it?
And it also is very funny because he this is what I think gets him a lot of activity is because he is like artificial sweeteners are not going to be the end of the world for you.
Like I feel like that's a lot of people are talking about that. Right. People get very heated about that conversation.
And it's very triggering for some people. They got really demonized for a long time. And now it's kind of bouncing back saying like they're actually not that bad.
He does go out and he's just like, it's not really that bad. He goes, really, I would rather have you drink a diet coke than a full on coke, you know, obviously, depending on your goals.
But it is kind of funny because people do blow up his comments and they and he kind of at this point does it just.
Yeah, I know. I think artificial sweeteners got the I don't know, can stepchild for a while because just like anything else, I mean, we we were always demonizing something, whether it's of course, because why?
We can't just stick to the right thing. I mean, we have to find out what's wrong. Well, we can't just all agree that lose weight by being in a caloric deficit.
You know what? I feel like if it was up to me. Oh, let's go. Which I know it's not. Could be.
Do you remember there was a point in time in our history where it was like the unwritten rule that you don't talk about religion or politics? Oh, yeah.
Right. I mean, that was the golden rule, I feel like about communication for generations. Yeah. You don't talk about religion or politics.
Some of that has went out the window. We're all annoying. We're all talking about. I really wish we would bring that back.
Don't talk. But I would also throw in there like nutrition, like don't talk about it because it's your own personal.
I mean, we are talking about it, but like a party, for example, you know, I would not walk up to somebody and talk to them about their diet and just like a small group or party setting.
Like, I just feel like it's really annoying how many people. Well, yeah, it should be a topic conversation where I'm like, you know what? That's your own personal.
Well, we've talked a little bit about like diet coke drinkers. They're like really. I mean, that's an it. Yeah, it's a thing. People. Yeah, they're diet coke. Yeah.
It's like imagine being like, you know, because I was I was on the mountain dew for a long time. Oh, you can drink that shit like leave me alone.
Yeah. Worry about yourself. Yeah. Yes. But the opinions that come from people from random stuff.
I'm like, let's just go back to the days where we don't talk about religion or politics or food with people that add in the food thing. Yeah, just add in the food. That was never.
I think you should add. Yeah, I had some new rule. We don't talk about religion, politics. We don't talk about money. Remember, that was a thing. That is a thing.
I still feel like that's a thing. I still feel like that's a thing because there's a lot of there's a lot of people get really butthurt when you start talking about money.
I know. I think the tides turn on that a little and then they start looking at you like, oh, well, now you can't or you can't or you know, they start getting their now they're saying like within the workplace, which I have not been employed in like 15 years.
But within the workplace, like people should be talking about what they're making. Really? Yeah. And that was the number one like HR thing. Yeah, it was a it was all it was all to like so that they could pay you less than they paid.
Well, I actually saw it the other like working the other way. So like I saw working the other way. They were like, you know what? Just you don't talk about it because everyone comes in with different levels of experience, their value.
No, I feel like so that they could pay you less as a woman while they pay Georgie Porgy more when you have. I never saw it that way. I never experienced that. And I also never saw it that way.
Like I always saw it as you know, they were you do bring different amounts of experience, even if you're doing the same technical job that people might be getting paid more than you and know, because what actually happened was there was one guy that came in that was talking about it.
And I would have preferred not to know what he was at because I maybe would have actually looked at him differently, but I was actually more hyper critical of the work he was doing knowing what he got paid. Yes. I don't know. I like I said, but he also had like an extra five years of experience to me.
He was came in from like another sales job and I'm like, well, I was I could see why there was a difference. But at the same time, like it just I don't know, it kind of disgruntled a few people or you just you looked at somebody a little bit differently that I almost kind of wish it would.
Yeah. I mean, I mean, would have given him a different chance, but I wouldn't have known. I just really didn't care. I just remember that was always a thing like you did not discuss your salary or hourly or anything because people get upset about it.
I suppose, but so we don't talk about politics, religion, food or money. Yeah, I'm fine with that. What else is there to talk about angry people on social media? Yeah, that's the last dog.
The stray dog. Listen, I said, I live in a small town and we have a neighborhood or like a town community town page Facebook page and the hot thing this last week has been this stray dog like the entire town has been trying to catch.
And good news today, they caught the dog. Everybody can. I don't know what everyone's going to talk about. It was all it's just so funny. Yeah. The people and honestly, like some of it's the same people that are just angry about everything all of the time.
What are people mad about this? They were just mad that like why hadn't anybody caught it and like the poor dog and it's injured like why is nobody doing anything and we are trying but we can't catch it and you know what? Stop feeding it because when it has a source of food, then it's more.
It was a whole thing. It was going on for a long time. Graze Anatomy. It's like a whole that went on for entirely too many seasons and the whole thing was a whole thing. So anyway, that's what we've been doing. Those are the kinds of things then that you know, sure.
Let's talk about the stupid, stupid stuff on social media. Let's all just talk about stupid stuff. Yeah, I mean not have intelligent conversations. No, no. Listen, here's the deal.
I feel like those those were the rules in just like generally speaking with acquaintances. I see what you're saying because as far as like talking about nutrition or like what somebody else is putting in their face. Yeah, now, right. Whatever one of those holes or something.
I mean, the joke is true. How do you know somebody's doing keto? They'll tell you about it. They'll tell you about it. How do you know somebody does CrossFit? They'll tell you about tell you about how you know somebody's vegan. How do you know Sarah ran a marathon?
I'll tell you about it. That one time 25 years ago, but I can see like as the person who's like, you know, because I mean, I've pulled the whole like I'm lactose intolerant. It does not dictate my diet by any means. Like I just deal with the consequences of consuming dairy.
But it's come up. But like if somebody like looking at me sideways because I'm eating yogurt or whatever, should you be eating that? Because you know, I mean, you are lactose intolerant. Oh, you're fully aware. Thank you. Okay. It's worth everybody. You have to say.
I don't really care what many people have to say, but people talk at me a lot. Like I didn't remember. I don't remember asking you like actually I have a shirt. Ben Bruno, we've talked about him. He's a great trainer. From what I can tell. I mean, I like I feel like I know him because I connect with them so well on his social like through social media posts. But you know, he's like, I don't remember asking you, you know, right? Your opinion, right? If I ask you for you, did I ask you for your opinion? Like, I don't remember. Yeah, me neither. You know, it's that's
also, I just want to before we wrap up this episode, I just want to take a second. Are you ready to wrap it up? Well, we're like 30 minutes in. Okay. I do want to just take a second and thank you for the pizza that you ordered before we recorded. Sucked. I ordered it correctly. And it was not made according to order. It is a well established.
Fact on this podcast, not that I hate vegetables that I despise loath mushrooms of all. Is it a vegetable? Like it's a fungus. Which I think is technically a vegetable. God damn. Mushroom. No, Google is a fungus, a vegetable. It's a fungus.
Although considered a vegetable, they're neither a plant nor animal food. They are a type of fungus that contains a substance called air ghost or all that's disgusting. Right now we're going to get all kinds of hate comments because you can't. It goes or go ear ghost or I don't give a shit.
Mushrooms are gross. And anyway, we tried to order a pizza with half mushroom and beef, half beef. Because Kaylee would not budge on the beef situation. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. You can have beef, but can I add mushrooms to half of it? You're like, don't you dare have any of that? I didn't want to hear touching the two slices where it like meets in the middle. I'm like, I was very clear. I got it. I'll put it on only half. It'll be fine. And they'll cut it and we'll be able to see where it's at. And you can get yours.
The mushrooms came on the whole damn thing. Came all over it.
I tried. I was like, all right, I'll eat the pieces like the legal. I ate two pieces. Two pieces of pizza with mushrooms on it. They're so good.
I can't. I just want to thank you.
The mushroom pizza. They're so good.
They're so gross.
They're even the candle ones which are my favorite.
Anyway, it's hard to know on the mushrooms. Let us know if you'd like mushrooms.
Let us know in the comments.
Are you team Kaylee or team Sarah on this one?
You made a mushroom face.
Well, you're welcome for ordering you pizza and paying for it. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome.
I'm glad it was free for me. I paid for that.
All right. Well, anyway.
Yikes. Okay. Well, I mean, it is a vegetable. So the fungus, that's a vegetable.
Oh, well, that's all we've got for today. So, um, what was this episode about?
Blood type. Blood type. Cool. Diet. All right. Until next time. Bye.
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