Ba-bi-hiru-lau
Watch your back, watch your back
Ertzaintza's gonna get you
Watch your back, watch your back
Ertzaintza's gonna get you
Watch your back, watch your back
Oh, there's a crime here
It's a coming from the Euskal Herria
Gotta wash those red hands
It's the crimes of the basquelands
It's the crimes of the Basque lands
Hello, welcome everybody. How are you doing Jules? I'm good, thank you. How are you? I'm good too. Good. I'm Douglas, you're Jules. I'm Julie, yeah, Jules.
This is Crimes of the Basque Lands.
Of the Basque Lands, yep. So, yeah, welcome. Today is like a mini episode. Did we find out what headlines is in Euskera?
I didn't
Let's find out.
And then we'll be able to call these episodes headlines. Perhaps.
Perhaps.
If it's agreed upon by the higher-ups.
Which is Megan.
Yes, our boss.
Well, you can say titulo, isen buru, or lerro buru.
Lerro buru. I can't do the ours very well.
But it would be these three.
Okay, so we'll find out which one is most popular.
I would have to ask a native speaker which one. I'm sure titulo is fine.
And everybody understands. But whether isen buru or lerro buru would be used as headlines.
You know.
Of a newspaper.
I would more comfortably use one of them after asking a native.
Yes.
So, but they're cute.
So we'll let you all know.
Yeah.
In the future.
Yeah. I like isen buru though. It's kind of just clearly named head.
Like the head name.
Named head, yeah. Good. I like that.
Which is pretty cute.
Yeah.
Okay.
Today we were, we're going to introduce some interesting ideas here for beers, right?
Oh yes. Today we brought some beers from Drunken Bros, which is a local brewery.
From Biscaya.
Biscaya, yes. I don't know the town. What town is it? Did you see?
It's Samudio. Just over the hill next to the airport.
Oh, okay.
Yes. We were meaning to go tour their establishment.
We have been meaning to do that.
And sample their beers. We've sampled them for years, obviously, but we'd like to go to where the sausage is made.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they're an interesting series. They're called Nightmare.
Yeah. Nightmare series.
Very up our streets with our podcast.
Exactly. And they're titled Red Rum from The Shining.
Right. I didn't know that.
And the label has the two twins from The Shining.
Okay.
So they're both Imperial Sour Cison, which is a sour beer, right?
And so one of them has with blackberries and the other one is with blood orange.
Blood orange. Red's blood orange.
Also on the side of the label, it says increase your experience. This is in English, by the way.
Increase your experience by mixing it with its twin sister.
So we're going to try them separately and then we're going to mix them to see what the result is.
Oh, do you hear that?
Very exciting. Very exciting.
So this is the red orange.
Okay. So all of us are going to try it.
Indeed. Indeed.
Don't put too much. It's just a sample.
I thought we're going to all try it from one.
And then we mix it.
Just a little sample.
Okay.
Julie, no, no, no, no.
Now what?
Now we can't try the other one by itself.
Yeah. We're going to drink all of this.
Oh, right.
That's not very professional.
We taste this here.
We're going to.
Okay. So this is the blood orange one.
Let's see how it is.
Cheers.
Mmm. Beautiful bouquet.
Look at that. Very honey like.
Very orangey. Yes.
It's got a bit of that bitter bitterness.
Very. Yep.
It's very fresh.
Very citrusy.
Very nice.
I love it.
It's good.
Yummy.
Okay. Now we have to try the blackberry one.
Let's go for it.
And then we're going to mix the twins, but you can't mix it.
Drink it all.
Douglas.
All of it.
Come on.
Yes, ma'am.
We're catching up.
Very demanding.
We're good.
This is exciting.
Okay.
Mmm.
And so you're not obliged to get the same beer.
Of course.
But if you try a different beer.
It's recommended that you mix the two.
So we have to buy both of them.
Mmm.
Sweeter.
Less bitter.
Less bitter for sure.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Effect on the tongue there.
This is the first tasting podcast ever.
Yeah, I know.
It's not that exciting.
Is it?
It is for us.
Yeah.
It is exciting.
Cause I'm excited to see how these taste together.
Okay.
So now we're going to mix them.
As recommended.
By the brewers.
See.
So Drunken bros is.
In Biscay and they offer like tours and stuff of the brewery.
This is not sponsored by the way.
We know it's not.
Paid a lot of money for this.
We paid so much.
We bought it in a bar.
You try to go to.
Yeah, because you can't really buy anything.
It's really hard to find.
Craft beer.
For sale.
Anywhere.
Yeah.
You have to go to special shops.
It's really hard.
Yeah.
And then you have to go to the store and get your own.
Order online. So.
Yeah.
All right.
The mix.
This is really interesting.
See, this is how much we care about.
Culinary arts in the best country.
Whatever we're doing.
The foot is still probably going to dominate.
Number one.
Cheers again.
Cheers.
Okay.
Now the mix.
Yeah.
It's it's it tastes more like a standard beer.
With the mixed.
It's a little bit more like a standard beer.
Because.
Cause they.
It's very much of an orange beer.
Yeah.
The.
Overpower.
And then the other one is also like it,
but clearly a Barry beer.
And whereas this is just a fruit of beer.
Quite.
Which is really well balanced as well.
I like it.
It's good.
10 points.
10 points to drunken bros.
For your red rum series, your nightmare series.
Yeah.
Delicious.
The red rum.
And it's super, super local.
It's good.
It's very local, very local.
It's very local.
No, no.
It's.
This is TV.
Oh, content.
No, wait.
Is it?
I can't read that eight.
8.5.
It's pretty high alcohol.
We're going to be.
I'm excited.
After this.
Okay.
Way to go.
So who's starting today?
Is it me?
Yeah.
Why don't you start with.
That's one of your stories.
Okay.
So these are many episodes that we're doing that we're going to call.
Buru. Yeah, or you see a black. I'm not sure maybe we should put it in plural.
Mm hmm.
Are just headlines from around the Basque country or the world
with Basque people involved for December, January.
We decided to do so by the time you hear this, it's probably well
beyond January, December.
But, you know, we're just trying to get ahead of the game. So.
Well, and I don't particularly look at the dates.
So we will look at the dates.
But, you know, I'm not looking for necessarily December, January,
although I think most of them are.
That's that's not been my criteria.
Wait a second.
So we had talked about a specific one for me to start with, which is
crime that occurred in Miami Dade.
Oh, Miami. Lots of Basques in Miami.
Greater Miami. Yeah.
It's not a nice Florida in general.
There's lots of Basques. Mm hmm.
Mm hmm. And also close to Cuba, which we have already been seeing
in some of our headlines has a lot of Basque surnames in the population.
Yeah. And unfortunately, our Basque descended
girl was killed by her husband
and father of their children.
Very, very sad story.
This gentleman called Edder Omar Espinosa Andino
was having an argument with his wife, Johanna.
I just sorry, I just this about
our is to say about sorry,
you know, I just to say about
apparently because she got
got home late from work.
Oh, ridiculous, right?
I mean, really, really sorry.
Sorry. Excuse for anything.
But he he argued with his wife,
got a knife in a kitchen and stabbed her.
He then I mean, I don't know.
We don't need to get into too much detail.
But well, that was out of Miami.
That was out of Miami and
and a very nice surname.
I just the sabbath. Yeah, I really like it.
Sabal, which just means white is just.
Yeah, I mean wide.
Or, yeah, big white.
So I don't know what at least is exactly,
but it's just a very nice, very Basque name.
So let's our thoughts go out to.
Yeah, Joanna.
I mean, sadly, this is something that occurs all the time.
This is nothing new in terms of crime.
And I also have a story that happened in December.
Actually, basically next door
to our producer, Megan's house, it's true on San Francisco.
And it was a couple of they were Bolivian descent
and Bolivian nationals who were living here
and living here and running a bar on San Francisco.
The bar was called San Francisco.
It was a street and in Bilbao.
Yeah. Oh, gosh, I forgot to see the name of the bar.
So he also murdered his partner.
I heard about the story.
Yeah, we all heard about it because it happened.
We all live very close to this.
I used to live in San Francisco.
So did you, Douglas?
I did. And our producer, Megan.
Many years.
Lives there now and this happened next door, basically.
So I'm always impressed by the Basque organizations and society
because it was very immediate.
The same week we had not only protests demanding more security for women,
but they also left flowers in front of the bar and candles.
And I thought that was, you know, it's so.
It's very immediate, the reaction.
And I always I'm always impressed by that.
Yeah.
So this was so at the Yargay Tavern, which is on San Fran or San Francisco
Street. So this guy, apparently they were running this bar together.
They were both in their mid 40s.
He murdered her late one night.
At the bar. Right.
Went home, went to sleep afterward and then called the police in the morning
himself to turn himself in.
Wow.
And yeah, like you were saying, Douglas, as a result of this, it, you know, it was
it was it kind of brought up the.
Because the numbers for violence against women.
The amount of like machista murders.
Hasn't really been going down recently, right?
But December was like the highest number that they had in 2022 for machista
murders. And so two of those murders occurred in the Basque country and then
eight more in the state.
So in December, it was the highest amount of machista murders.
And yeah, as a result of this murder, there was a huge outpouring of public
support and, you know.
Well, not support, but against, you know, protest against these types of crimes
and support of the woman.
Yeah, support of the woman and also just like, yeah, yeah, Bali, you know, like,
let's get this enough.
This is enough of this kind of crap, you know, where partners are killing their
partners. So. But yeah, that's those are the sad stories.
Yeah, like so the there was a big protest or I guess not protest, but a
manifestation, a gathering, a vigil demonstration.
Yeah. Yeah. Like a demonstration there.
So like hundreds of people showed up to demonstrate against this type of crime,
which is really great that, you know, that they're really putting shining a
light on the injustice here and how this is happening.
How this is not going to be tolerated anymore.
And we know from our research for this podcast that even legally, there are a
lot of extra, extra, extra penalties for it being a machista crime.
Okay. Here in the best here in Spain, I should say, not just the best country,
but in all of Spain.
Yeah. So if they find that the crime was a machista crime, there's an extra
level of penalization for those who've committed it.
So that's good, bad news.
But yeah, so that's the sad stuff from this.
From December. Yeah.
Yeah. Serious stuff where we're dealing with crime.
So, you know, it's not supposed to be lighthearted.
No, no, it is a true crime.
And I am always impressed by how fast the reaction is from society here and
how much we hear about kind of very systemic solutions that people are
looking for. They're not just looking for redress against that husband or,
you know, they don't react, kind of saying they're from outside and they're
bringing violence into the country.
It's very much a kind of we have to look at.
No, they all recognize that, yeah, it's a systemic problem that's like
everywhere. It's not just here.
It's everywhere. Yeah.
That these types of crimes occur and in the very good systemic nature of
level of discussion. Yeah.
But yeah, it's it's also a case that, you know, there are cultures that are
coming in, you know, like we got a lot of problems as well with North
Africans misbehaving and, you know, that's a lot of a cultural issue.
But, you know, yeah, but I would I would argue that that's an issue that's in
every single society. Oh, for sure.
Nothing new. Yeah.
Or unheard of in any society.
Not at all. And anywhere you would have.
I mean, you know, it's just demographics and everything, right?
Like there's so many more men that arrive and there's no women in that community.
And because they're a separate community, they're it's harder to to just mix
and find people and integrate in the end of the day, which is what, you know,
everybody's looking for.
But yeah, just these the discussions are very level headed and sort of, yes,
systemic and trying to find solutions for the whole of of the power and the
whole of the Basque Country and.
Yeah. Trying to find ways to like deal with these types of crimes in a different way.
Yeah, it's just that for me, a lot of it really has to be addressed with,
you know, education, of course.
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
We have to look at how why why are these things happening?
Yeah. So much of it of those systemic and what can we do as a society to?
Yeah. To write, you know, remedy these things.
Yeah. But it's it gets complicated so fast. Right.
That's like films. Oh, yeah.
You say it's like, yeah, for me, is every part of society.
Yeah. So, yeah.
So now we're going to try to move on to more, well, lighter crimes,
different crimes.
I.
Um, so the next one I found from December was that there was a
um, I'll just quote the headline here, Europe's largest contraband tobacco
manufacturing and distribution network in Navarra and the Basque Country broken up.
Oh, cigarettes. Who would have said so?
I know they do like to smoke here.
A lot of smokers. Yeah.
Europe is pretty smoky, right?
In comparison to the Americas.
Yeah, true. For sure.
Um, so I'll tell you, like the just highlights of this story.
But so they found four point five million packets and 31 tons of tobacco
leaf and cut tobacco were seized from this.
That's a ton of stuff.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah. As well as machinery and precursors for the production of cigarette packets.
So they busted this huge and I'm wondering, like, what label were they
putting the cigarettes under?
Like, was it going to get more than one?
Because yeah, like, were they just like faking the packaging for different
brands of cigarettes?
They probably all taste the same.
I mean, they would taste all the exactly they would.
So there were 16 people arrested.
They had five different searches in different warehouses in Nevada.
And they also well, the other thing that they they found was that they had
like these people working for 12 hour days, poor sanitary commissions.
Conditions.
Did I say conditions?
It came out strange.
Oh, sanitary conditions, commissions, conditions.
So anyway, the organization was capable of producing a million cigarettes a day
with 14 million packets produced in the last months of activity till it was
dismantled. 14.
Yeah.
I was on my terrible math when you said four and a half million.
I was trying to see how many cigarettes each person in the whole of Spain would
have gotten, which I think is like 45 million in Spain.
Is it 45?
I thought it was 40.
I think it's like 45.
Okay, let's go with 45.
So it's still about it's almost 10.
10 per person.
But that was just for children.
That was just.
Yeah.
But most people don't that are smokers don't smoke 10 only.
Wow.
Yeah.
How long do you want it for a day?
So the 16 people that were arrested, six of them were Spanish nationals.
Seven were Ukrainians and three were Bulgarians.
Desperate times.
Yeah.
Were Ukrainian.
I know.
So but in terms of the long working hours and poor sanitary conditions,
conditions, seven workers of Ukrainian nationality were located in the tobacco
manufacturing workshop in Nevada.
They had built.
Okay.
So inside the warehouse, the ringleaders of the plot had built a secondary
warehouse, which could have been a sort of chest containing the entire structure
corresponding to the calisthenic clandestine factory in which they had
concealed with straw so that from the outside, it would appear to be
completely occupied by this product.
So there was like a warehouse with straw in it that there was a warehouse.
And then within that warehouse, it sounds like there was like a second
building inside, but it was concealed.
It was concealed with the straw that looked like tobacco, like the product.
I guess it's straw, right?
They didn't want to make it when pretend it's straw, but it's actually tobacco
behind it.
Yeah.
So it was hidden, and so they were found inside that second warehouse in the
middle.
These people that were working their asses off four and a half million
cigarettes in a haystack.
Yeah.
Ridiculous.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
So working conditions included working days.
What?
Sorry.
Definitely more lighthearted than the last one.
Yeah.
Well, not really.
I mean, these are people being like slave labor.
I know it's terrible.
Working conditions, including working days, averaging 10 to 12 hours a day.
And workers did not leave the shed.
So they're calling it a shed.
This little interior warehouse that they're working in did not leave the shed
at any time during the day.
It's horrible.
They're like they're like detained there.
That is slave labor.
Yeah, definitely.
Horrible.
Totally shocking.
Yeah, so there's a lot less cigarettes out on the streets.
I think it was the Bulgarians that was like the slave masters.
Or do you think there were other slaves?
No shame to Bulgarians.
No, but they might have been victims like the Ukrainians.
It was it sounds like it was all Ukrainians that were working in the little mini shed
in the middle of the warehouse.
My gosh.
Doing the like clandestine operation.
Poor Ukrainians being used by people.
I know.
Oh, well, so there you go.
I realized I'm sorry to go back and forth, but it's at least the same podcast.
I forgot to say the date for my last story for my first story.
And it was the 17th of January, 2023.
OK, so that's just first to be on the same page if anybody wants to look into it further.
Now, I've got another story about Nicaragua.
OK, and it's this gentleman called Jaime Arauz Centeno, who was mayor of Il Tuma La Dalia
in Matagalpa.
So this is names of the places he was in.
So what happened to him was he has been destitute or actually, that's not the word to use it
in this to do it.
And Castilian is a false friend, isn't it?
Yeah, because you're destitute.
He wasn't destitute.
He was he was taken out of office.
However, he is that devastated.
He was removed from office.
Yeah, that's how you say it in America for sure.
I'm sure there's another verb.
No, that's good.
There must be another good enough.
He's been removed from office.
It serves me right for thinking I would I would know that work, but they remove him
off on suspicion of corruption and the kind of the part that I I found a bit weird was
like he has been mayor of this city since 1990.
Almost what?
Almost uninterruptedly, but wait a minute.
Also, he's been mayor of this town or locality since its creation.
So he's like in the nest.
He's the founder.
He's the town essentially.
He's a bit of a founder in town.
Oh, no.
And then they found out he was just all along.
Now this is 1990.
That's what?
More than 30 years ago.
That's a long as it is.
It is.
But it's it gets more complicated because I had to kind of look into a little bit what's
happening in Nicaragua.
Not very good.
No, no, never is.
It's not good news.
Now we don't want to say that.
That's not nice, but there is good news for sure.
Maybe not the Vasco is doing it.
I'm joking.
But yeah, we would love to hear from any locals that have more sort of relevant information.
I mean, the thing is that the guy Ortega who is in Daniel Ortega, who is the president
right now of Nicaragua, he's a bit of a contentious person.
You know, he's he first I don't know if he was elected or if he just wanted to be elected
at some point in the 60s.
So he made it happen.
Well, I am sorry for the listeners that I'm so unspecific.
But the thing is that he's been in in politics since like the 60s or 70s.
Oh, how old is this guy Ortega?
I didn't look into that, but I can check right now since the 60s.
And then he became mayor in the 90s.
At least 70s because then America was funding the people on the right wing against Ortega.
And so he was he was in the last decade reelected.
And now he's been going against everybody on the right.
So is this guy innocent and just more right wing or did he actually commit something?
And this is much more relevant in another story I have about Nicaragua.
OK, but you know, so, you know, this is it could be a lot more convoluted than definitely,
definitely, definitely.
Definitely.
I have reasons for his outing.
It is ousting.
Exactly.
I did think his his master name at house is was very Basque looking and it is Basque.
I forget the etymology right now, but it was it's nice name.
And so sorry, the other thing I was going to say was that I was going to say that this
reminds me that, you know, we talked about Peru and the first female president of Peru
on a podcast a few weeks ago.
And you know, the situation is developing as we speak.
So you know, she's still president as we speak and as we record.
But you know, it's it's very complicated.
And again, there are issues of right wing, left wing politics and how the situation of
the country is going.
So, you know, we're not in any way specialists of of Latin American politics.
But you know, we're just we're enjoying talking about it.
OK, well, should we take a break?
Yes, let's do that.
And we're back.
Yes.
Hello.
Yeah.
So I was just finishing like what I wanted to say with the last thing was just our stories
are kind of open and we're kind of opening a discussion for.
Right.
So like if people want to continue the discussion about politics in Nicaragua, I'm very happy
to continue that.
Sure.
Send us an email.
If you have any more inside scoop on the situation.
Comments, you know, are good articles.
I'm I'm way up to having a look into that.
So I have my next story is we're all I now I realized all my stories are from Nicaragua.
So you know, lots of Basques in Nicaragua.
I never realized there's so many.
And it's a bit more of a positive story.
OK.
This occurred on the 16th of January in San Salvador, the capital.
And they managed to rescue four fishermen who had disappeared in the Pacific.
Oh, and so that was very nice.
Oh, wow.
I guess I was thinking health and safety crime.
OK.
And yes, I was going to read.
So they went fishing and never came home.
No, they came home and then they came home.
They didn't come home and then people for some day where is so and so and they and then
they found them floating out at sea.
I'm assuming.
Right.
Is that the story?
Yeah.
They didn't.
They just said they found them.
They found them.
And the names of the fishermen were Milton Jose Lanusa Lanusa.
Oh, Ganusa.
And he was 35 years old, Jose Tomas Bonilla, 20 years old, Jose Gustavo Palacios, 19 and
Jose Armando Ortiz of 23 years old.
Actually Ortiz is not.
It's not Basque.
No.
Well, according to what I found.
I just thought with the Z at the end, it would be Basque.
I said actually etymologically, it means the son of.
OK, so like Fernandez and Sanchez, I said or he said that would be the same.
So Sanchez would be son of Sancho.
Yeah, that would be there.
And apparently or at least the last thing I wrote read, it comes from probably Visigoths,
a Celtic kind of well, Visigoths are Germanic.
So I'm already mixing up things, but it's supposed to be from the Visigothic times and
it's supposed to be.
That kind of the structure of how the sons inherit the.
You know, whatever you have.
Yeah.
So the son of Ortiz.
Well, anyway, it's supposed to be non-Basque.
That ending.
OK.
So whether it's sadly, whether it's Celtic or whether it's Germanic, it's supposed to
be so long through Lanusia is the one that's Basque.
That's the thing.
I looked it up.
I looked it up and it's from Aragon.
But it's like now, why are we saying this?
Like you heard Julie say Ganoussa is somebody we know very well.
I don't really know.
And also Aragon is the next well, is next to Navarre, basically.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And plus the websites where I was looking for the name origin, they just said the first
person to have this name was an Aragon.
They didn't give an etymology for the name, which, you know, if you give me a couple of
Latin words as the origin, you give me more credit credibility, whereas, you know, the
whole of the Pyrenees we know historically was inhabited by Basque speakers in antiquity
before the Romans arrived.
We have evidence of valleys and rivers with Basque names.
So even if there was somebody called Lanusia and Aragon, I'm still thinking it's probably
a Basque.
So all right, we're going to go with that.
Plus.
Well, I mean, I'm going to leave it as a provocation.
If you have proof that it's Aragonese, I'll be interested to learn that as well.
But I think it was funny enough that it's the surname that you know very well.
And it's a positive story because everybody was rescued.
Yeah.
And safety crimes notwithstanding, they were found.
So it was it was nice.
I mean, these things happen if you're a fisherman.
Yeah.
Well, the sea is a dangerous, dangerous place.
Very dangerous.
So things can happen.
And Basque people have been fishers a long time.
Yeah, long, long time.
Less so Aragonese.
Exactly.
Good point.
Maybe that's why they go.
This dude from the mountains in the.
We're joking.
We're happy everybody's safe.
Yeah.
Cheers to everybody.
Cheers to life.
Happy you guys are alive.
Boys.
All right.
Well, I just had a couple of stories from you had some sea themes only from.
Oh, yeah, I do.
I have some sea stories in Gorlice, which is a beach in Gran Bilbao.
Right.
A giant squid appeared on the on the beach.
A giant squid.
I'm excited.
How giant is Jane?
Two meters.
Wow.
It was two meters long.
Bigger than me.
It's giant.
And apparently it was like what?
Three feet, three and a half feet.
No, sorry.
More than that.
No, no, no.
Way more than that.
Two meters is six feet.
Right.
So, yeah, they just like kind of washed up on shore.
And in the story, it says, you know, at first they didn't quite know what type of squid
it was.
But then there was an update that says we can complete the information.
So it says so the squid was identified by the specialist Luis Laria as a.
How am I going to say this?
Oh, must that fees must refuse.
But Trami, Trami, must refuse or must refuse.
But Trami, Trami, which I assume is like Latin.
Right.
It is how species are named that was stranded, alive, stranded in.
It's like washed up on the beach.
And then it was returned to the sea.
But they went on to say that once stranded, it has no chance of surviving.
Really?
So they weren't able to save it.
Poor baby.
Yeah.
So surprised they didn't make that huge squid that they, you know, was big news to have
washed up two meters is big.
It's huge.
That's huge.
They're not supposed to be here.
They looked, they look like they should live here.
I mean, we eat a lot of squid here.
It's very popular when we go out for a rabbas on Sundays.
Exactly.
Rabbas is a very typical tradition in Boba.
I don't know if we've talked about it in the podcast.
So you go out for martinis and rabbas.
That's what you're supposed to do on Sundays.
That's the law.
Yeah.
But martinis, not martinis like as in gin martinis, not the hardcore ones.
No, here we do martinis differently.
I don't know.
I think in Italy it's a brand is martini, right?
So it's vermouth.
It's just vermouth.
It's not.
Hmm.
Now this is interesting, you know, but Barcelona has a very deep tradition of vermouths.
So every bar traditionally has their own concoction of vermouths and they have it on the bar.
And so it's not so much a Bilbao thing, but it's, you know, in the peninsula.
Here yes, there are a few martinis that are typical.
Like Isagirre is a very typical Basque martini and people use the normal martini brand one
from Italy as well.
Yeah.
But it's not so much traditional like in Catalonia where you're like all the bars are having
their own specific mix and stuff.
Yeah.
Some places have their own specific mix, but not all of them.
Yeah.
It's nice.
With a squid, with calamar or?
Yes.
Sunday.
That's what we're supposed to do.
We're supposed to go have.
We're supposed to.
We're supposed to have our.
So it's actually so it's a it's a usually red martini with a little bit of a gin.
Well, well, each just a little bar has their own like little mix.
If it's a preparado, right?
So if it's a prepared one, I'm giving you, I'm giving you the one I prepared.
Oh, okay.
Tell us your secret recipe.
So it was like a lot of places don't give out the recipe because they want it to be
special to their bar.
Well, our bar was the bar I worked in and served this was not speciality.
It was just a marionito.
So it was just a generic.
What do they expect?
Give them this.
Some gin.
You put some gin in there yet.
Well, they're mostly martinis.
So I would say probably triple, maybe quadruple, depending on, you know, how old the client
is.
And then a measure of gin and then a little bit of Fangastura.
And then you can then you start adding.
Like Campari.
If you want a little bit of Campari, if you want a little bit of Curacao and if you want
a little bit of what's the other one?
Armaniak.
I think no, Cointreau.
Cointreau.
Yeah, triple sec.
Yeah, we would put triple sec for sure.
A little dash, dashes of everything else.
Yeah.
And in D'Nosti, I think when I've gone out with for martinis, it was if you don't.
So here you have to ask for a preparado where they're going to add all that stuff.
Yeah.
And then you can see they say con gorditas, which is with drops.
That's cute.
With droplets.
That's very, very sexy.
I like that.
So that's how you have to order it there.
Yeah.
So if you're in Bilbao, you order preparado.
Little Mariano.
And then if you're in D'Nosti or if you're in Quipuzcu, I guess you ask for with drops.
That's very sweet.
And just for our our anxious visitors that will be trying the marinitos, if you just
ask for a normal marini toward.
Yeah.
It's just going to be a vermouth.
It's just a vermouth on ice.
Yeah.
And in other sea stories, there was a little seal that came up in Getaria, which is also
in Quipuzcu.
It is.
Yeah.
So a little seal would just appeared on the beach in Getaria.
We don't usually get seals.
No, because they're usually further north or more of a North Sea.
So this little guy was just lost.
I didn't even know we didn't get seals.
Yeah, I thought we would.
I've never seen a seal here.
So yeah, not here.
I have.
I've seen seals on the North Sea, but I've never seen them here.
Right.
Yeah.
They're all over the UK, but I don't remember seeing any here.
Yeah.
They like colder water, I think.
Makes sense with all that blubber.
So it says here, as a consequence of strong winter storms, gray seals, which normally
inhabit more northern waters, are usually seen on the Basque coast where they usually
take the opportunity to rest and feed.
Sweets.
So he washed up onto Getaria by himself, though, by himself.
And then he went to then he made a second appearance in the Noci and San Sebastian.
How cute.
He's got the same seal.
All the high level to like track him, his movements.
Well, we're a little seal.
We're like, it is cute.
Like I'm just thinking, like, there have been a lot of those stories over the last few months.
We're recording in January 2023.
And recently we had a couple of walruses.
There was one in Norway.
There was one in Ireland and there were different walruses.
Yeah, they were way off course.
They weren't supposed to be walruses in Ireland or Norway, like in Oslo.
Where are walruses normally?
Way north, like in an Arctic circle.
Oh, OK.
Like with the ice.
OK, they like ice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Norwegian one didn't have a good ending.
They shot it.
What?
So rude.
I know, right?
It was it was deemed...
Was he posing a risk to people?
It was considered a risk because so many people went to go see it in the forest.
And he was probably...
Yeah.
Oh, that's sad though.
Yeah.
They shot it.
That's terrible.
I still don't think they had to shoot it.
No, they absolutely did not need to shoot it.
That's what you get from a nation of hunters.
No shame to Norway, but come on.
Hey, it's all good.
It's all good.
Well, the best country came out better in that one.
For once, we're always looking at the Basco crimes.
That's the real crime.
They shot the walrus.
It's a crime.
Sorry Norway.
Yeah.
Sorry, not sorry.
So is it my turn?
Is it your turn?
I got last now.
Yeah, what do you got?
OK.
I can give you a short story.
If you like.
I just don't know what to do.
I'm going to go with the
if you like, I just don't know whose turn is if it's mine is mine.
Here's a crime.
So there's a new beer.
I got my last one.
OK, sorry.
You new beer.
OK, so this is not a crime.
This is a crime.
It's a new beer.
Oh my gosh.
Where they've mixed.
Hold on to your chipella.
Yeah, this one is sick.
They mix cider, Cidera from here, not cider like you would think.
This most is different.
Yeah, it's very sour and very acidic.
Sharp.
Yeah.
And it's very cloudy and it doesn't have as many bubbles as the commercial kind of more
British style.
Yeah.
It's cider and beer mixed so they can put the new drink.
To me, that's a crime.
It's a bit of a taste crime.
I won't I won't say the name of the place.
I mean, look, look at how do you want me to look at how hypocritical we are.
We're just I know.
And I didn't know we don't like mixing.
You guys are sick.
Plus we're liking all the fruitiness here.
I mean, it says OK, but this is part of the cider here is like not fruity.
It's sacred, right?
It is sacred, but it's not fruity.
It's not like it's giving you like some sort of like a new, you know, it's not like adding
blackberries to something or strawberry.
Hey, now you're diminishing the beautiful apples of the best.
Well, yeah, I'm not.
I'm only saying that it's not.
Have you not noticed that none of the breweries have made a what do they call size on says
all the safe zone session or says on beer like the sour beers with Apple?
None of them.
Not one.
I don't know.
There's various as far as I know.
I mean, come at me if you want.
I mean, there must be.
I mean, we're just not trying.
I know there are.
I mean, I feel like I've tried a lot of them, but now I don't think I don't think Basco's
is true.
I don't think any Basque beer breweries are.
I haven't seen that because we do try them for sure.
But I'm thinking, you know, surely like New England has a ton of beers with with apples.
I'm just I'm just guessing.
Yeah, could be could be.
Those are more West Coast.
Let's have some of our.
And I think it's the state of apples.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
OK, I believe you.
But isn't you know, isn't George Washington?
I mean, you know, like tree.
Well, you know, like Idaho is potato.
So it could just be because somebody marketed it first.
It's true.
But isn't what's that president that George Washington?
Right.
What's the apple tree?
And why they took apples to Washington State?
Did he have something to do with apples?
Isn't there this story, this traditional story about him, him planting an apple tree and
how this is like an analogy to the founding fathers taking care of my gosh.
I have erased all of that from my memory.
Oh, I don't know.
You're so Basco.
But I do.
But now you're that you're mentioning it.
I'm like, right.
There was some story about an apple tree or something.
I'm going to love your family like screaming at you and you know, surely why on you haven't
even learned this about our country.
We all learn from birth.
Yeah.
Dang.
Yeah, they're right.
There is something about an apple.
My excuse is looking at no apple tree.
It's an apple, right?
But then there's the cherry apple seed.
Who's he?
He's a guy that planted a bunch of apple trees, I guess.
Maybe.
Wait, open a can of worms.
And now I'm going to be thinking about this all night.
What did I learn about these things?
So anyway, OK, so they created a.
Let's hear more about this crime here.
And cider makes.
Do you know these producers day?
But.
Yeah.
OK.
So you see those?
Yes, but those and as the guy I got.
OK, so they have two flavors.
One.
Is that the name of the beer company?
But those are the company.
They are TZ.
Yeah.
So one of their beers is elaborated or mixed with.
White beer.
So probably.
And we'd with a with a cherry flavor.
Strawberry and.
Pepper.
Raspberry.
Oh, sorry.
Raspberry and spit it.
That's a kind of pepper.
It's a black pepper.
I spit it, I think.
A spill it.
Isn't it?
It's a pepper.
Is that green pepper?
Oh, is that a green pepper?
That's a bit scary.
That's a crime to taste.
Green pepper is in a beer.
Yeah, exactly.
I have.
Sounds I've had.
So maybe we should try this on one of our episodes.
You mean you're going to try to get me.
I think this is a necessity.
Yeah, we should.
Especially the pepper one, because you're like you're part Mexican, honey.
How can you be shocked by pepper being?
I'm not shocked.
Pepper.
I just I don't know about these combinations.
It's the green pepper.
I thought it was black pepper because we've tried one with jalapeno.
It's right.
It's been a is a famous city in the West Country for peppers like the green peppers.
But I think so.
Yeah.
Well, we never said we were fucking.
We're not.
We're you know, crimes, crimes.
So that's our oh, it's apparently a red pepper.
OK, OK.
Which can be sweet.
I'm happier with the red.
Yeah, no, I was just because usually here.
I mean, let's do it then.
Let's try to find this beer and drink it.
That's fine at some point.
So one of a very famous ingredient in the West Country is Guernica peppers.
Right.
And they're very similar to pimentos del padron or padron peppers, which are more famous in
the US.
Yeah.
They're little green ones.
Yeah.
And these are the kind of peppers that they use to make chorizo.
Yeah.
They dry them out to cook in for cooking.
Yeah.
So these are red peppers, which is why I was more shocked to the idea of them being green,
to be honest.
Yeah.
I think people are yelling at us right now, especially Basco's.
Everybody's yelling at us.
Don't you?
But we love you all.
Basco's and I know we've lived here a long time, but you know, we didn't learn everything.
No, we're here to learn.
We're here to learn.
Yeah.
That was fun.
Interesting crimes to tastes.
Is it my turn now?
Yeah.
What do you got?
So my next story is as I hinted to hinted at earlier, continuing in Nicaragua.
We're going to learn about its politics one day, Jules.
Okay.
And this is Mr. Jaime Uros that was detained by the police.
And he is him and his wife were detained.
And they are, they work in an insurance company and they were accused of improper, improper
accounting or something of the sort.
And his, yes, we did go over his name, Uros.
I'm sorry about my double R. It's U-double-R-o-z.
Uros.
Yeah.
And I didn't know that surname, but I kind of went with a hunch and it is Basque.
Not very common or anything, but it is Basque surname.
So I mean, again, we're getting into the same similar problem as the last one.
It's an unclear accusation and in this case, we know that he was a contributor to the right
wing party.
So he was supporting whoever the opposition was to Mr. Ortega.
And he's now been taken to jail with his wife.
And yeah, it's just a bit up in the air and again, you know, as much as I'm a left winger,
I'm not...
So he's just like an insurance guy.
He is an insurance.
What did he get arrested for?
What's the crime?
It's something improper financial.
That's the only thing they said.
It's not clear.
They didn't accuse him of anything specific.
Kind of like money laundering or money...
Yeah, not paying your taxes or something.
Whereas really, when you read the article, it's more saying that, well, because he contributed
money to the opposition, he's probably being...
It's a political arrest or something.
Probably.
Yeah, that's the thing.
It feels like it's from us reading.
And we're only reading headlines, by the way.
So yeah, that's why I was kind of saying, like, I think this is an interesting place
to start a conversation, right?
What can you tell us about the situation there?
What are your opinions?
Are you with Ortega?
Do you think he's right to do this?
Do you think there are systemic problems in the country that have to be resolved through...
It could be the case.
Or do you think the president is overstepping his position?
He's just really overreacting to the opposition?
And as you were saying, we're not a political podcast, but we're interested in your opinions
and we want to learn.
Yeah, yeah.
If you can tell us anything more, that'd be great.
If anybody has more insight into these stories.
And unfortunately, this story is a little bit up in here.
It is very much a headline in the sense that they weren't accused of anything specifically.
The story itself is talking about political persecution and, you know, so interesting,
huh?
I mean, you know, Basque descendants all over the world.
Causing trouble, causing trouble on the opposition in the presidency.
They're everywhere.
Yep.
They're everywhere.
The police and the criminal.
That's the point.
We're just people.
So that's Nicaragua.
We're going to learn something about Nicaragua.
Yeah, eventually.
Julie said, didn't you say, oh yeah, this and I, yeah, and I noticed this Nicaragua.
This is he looks like such an upstanding individual.
He does, doesn't he?
It's him and his wife.
So he got his wife involved too.
I know it's a bit dodgy, huh?
This is from what?
I mean, I'm sure she was very much involved.
That's why she also got arrested.
Yeah.
But you know, were they good guys or bad guys?
We're still up in the air about that.
No way to know.
And we'll never know.
This is from 100% Noticias from 100% Noticias.
100% news.
It's nice and simple messaging.
And the story here is from the 20, no, sorry, the 19th of January, 2023, if anybody would
like to, to, you know, look that up.
Look further into it.
There are contrasts.
Are you screaming at us?
Maybe somebody other than 100% news has some news on it.
I mean, you know, we'll get the other side of the story.
It's not all about news.
It's also about context and points of view and stories, right?
It's a mixture of things.
Yeah.
Fun, fun.
Mr. Urof.
Urof.
An interesting series.
Urof.
Yeah, I can't do the R.
You gotta practice your double R's.
Urof.
Look, honey.
Listen, my pronunciation is shit.
Hence why I always ask you to pronounce things for me.
I'm better, but I don't know what they are.
I finally can do the double R.
Urof.
You can.
I can't.
I got four languages.
Just this week I got made fun of for my accent speaking in Spanish.
So I mean, this happens to me all the time.
Was it traumatic?
Who did that?
I've learned my students.
Was it a six year old?
Nah, students.
So they always make fun of my accent.
No, little kids never make fun of my accent.
Really?
Oh, that's cute.
That's nice.
It's just teenagers.
They were crying, crying, laughing.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What did you say though?
Come on, come on.
Give us.
I said to them, that's mature.
And then I said, I'll wait.
What were they laughing?
What Castilian?
What did you say?
You don't even remember what I said.
I said something really small and short and they just died of laughter and they were crying.
They were both crying of laughter.
They were both crying.
It was crazy.
And I couldn't because they were laughing so hard.
I didn't realize what they were laughing about.
And then I was like, what is so funny?
And they were like, your accent.
Oh, right.
And I was like, oh, that's mature.
I'll wait.
And then I just sat there staring at them.
I'm just imagining your best revenge would be the next thing they said.
And the two of them, both of them are going abroad this year.
They say the next thing in class and you just start laughing on the floor.
When they say, try.
Try talking.
What?
Just cry.
Phone your mom.
Mom, you won't believe what this guy said.
Try.
You should traumatize your students.
Oh, no, I won't do that.
Great story, Jos.
Anyway, let's have a quick rest because our time is spinning up.
Okay.
See you soon.
We'll be back.
Okay, we're back.
And we're back.
Hello, everybody.
Okay.
So I've got a few smaller stories that are, you know, I guess they're not crimes, but
they were funny.
It might be headlines that I saw.
My job is going to be to find a crime in them.
Okay.
So find the crime in this.
And if I don't find it, we need our list in there.
Come on, guys.
Yes.
So these two influencers that are from Nigeria originally, but they live in Bilbao and they're
born in Bilbao.
So they're from Bilbao.
Yep.
They're from Bilbao.
So they're not from Nigeria.
Well, I guess they're ancestors.
Yeah.
They are probably their parents.
I guess they have Nigerian heritage.
Yes.
Sorry.
So they don't look like typical Blascos.
They just need some chipalas.
Yeah.
Just put on a chipala and you'll fit right in.
If only it was so easy.
No, it's not.
Never is.
They'll make fun of your accent immediately.
No, if you're born here though, you probably speak perfectly fine.
They do.
They definitely do.
Well, they do because I did watch the video with them and they ended up closing themselves
into like a metal container, like a shipping container in the middle of the Plaza that
is in San Francisco neighborhood.
The Plaza that crosses over the train tracks between Cebawuru and San Fran.
Cantalajas Bridge and the Plaza is called Fleming.
Fleming?
Yeah.
Fleming, the creator of Penicillin.
Really?
That Plaza is called Fleming.
I never knew that.
Just when you cross from Indochina to San Fran on your right, you have a little bust
of a guy going up towards my street, towards Cebawuru.
You know, a little triangular bit.
Yeah.
It's got a little bust right in the corner in the triangle.
Wow.
Now I'll have to look.
It's way more beautiful than that, the story though, because it's actually because he created
Penicillin, he saved so many sex workers lives that the sex workers paid for his statue to
be put up there.
No.
Yeah, baby.
Because it is at the beginning of Cortez.
And Cortez is a very traditional sex work area.
That's why we live here is cheap.
Yeah.
So yeah, we both live well.
And it's a beautiful story.
San Fran and Jason.
Yeah.
And I used to live in San Francisco.
So it's not that, oh, they did it there.
I saw that.
I do.
Yeah.
Because while I saw the container, like a shipping container, and I was like, what are
you going to do there?
And then I went to work and I came back and I never realized what was happening.
So it was these two kids there.
I think they're probably in their twenties and they were like, they closed themselves
in there for 24 hours with microphones and they streamed the whole thing on 24 hours
on Twitch.
Yeah.
So cool.
And they were just talking.
They wanted to raise the raise the day, not awareness, but the, the problem.
No, what's the word looking for?
The reputation of the neighborhood, the neighborhood has a reputation for being
scary and sketchy bad.
And yeah, like, yeah.
So they were trying to say, no, no, no.
Normal people live here and it's a, you know, their families that live here.
Yeah.
And they live here and they live there.
Hardest story.
Yeah.
So they were just trying to get people to come in and record their own experiences,
good or bad.
Oh, that's nice.
That was cute.
Yeah.
The neighborhood.
Yeah.
You know why?
I think I would like to watch that Twitch.
I mean, not the 24 hours, maybe.
Come on, Douglas.
You have time.
Over a week.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Let's see what, what guests they have.
That sounds very fun.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe most of it was just them sitting there and then I wonder how many people they
were able to get to come inside.
So it would be interesting.
Yeah.
We're just here sitting here, but true, true.
It's hilarious.
I hope they had a couple of beers.
No offense if you don't drink.
Yeah.
I don't know if they had beers or not.
I mean, it would just be easier to speak.
I mean, they'd have, they'd have a queue.
If they had beers, they would have a queue.
If they were handing out beers.
Definitely.
You know what I mean?
We know our neighborhood, Julie.
People have been lying.
We haven't stopped partying.
Oh, beer.
Great.
Anyway, no, but that was cute.
It is a very sweet story.
So I have a couple of other stories that are not crime necessarily.
Maybe you can see a crime here.
What was the crime there?
I think the crime there is, is the crime is that San Francisco gets such a bad rap.
And every time I speak to anyone from here, when they talk about San Francisco, they go
to San Francisco.
And even when I came 20 years ago, I was warned as a student not to go there.
That's a bad part of town.
Yeah.
And I ended up living there and I don't think it's necessarily a bad part of town.
No, no.
It's a part of town.
Yeah.
And yeah, there's just a, it's undeniable that there is some crime around pickpocketing,
drug dealing, prostitution or sex work.
Although that's not considered a crime here.
It's not, but in the eyes of people, it can be like, Oh, shady.
It's a good part of the plan.
We're a bit dodgy for sure.
So, so yeah.
So I liked the fact that they were trying to make a bit of prejudice.
I'm trying to break that prejudice, trying to show our, our human sides.
Yeah.
But yeah, I, I, I, you know, me, I'm a very combative personality in some levels.
So I kind of like that, you know, that we're from the dangerous part of town, especially
when I was going to say from the hood.
I mean, in a way, I mean, you know, it's very much in the best country, you know, because
I've spent, if there was a neighborhood in Bilbao, if it was, it could be described as
that.
Yeah.
It's just that if it was a dangerous place, I wouldn't be that happy.
You know, it's just because it's not really that dangerous that I think it's funny.
Oh, compared to many other places in the world, it's not that dangerous at all.
Like I was, like, I was going to say, like, I spent years in, in Latin America, mostly
in Brazil and that's dangerous.
It's just funny what they think is dangerous.
Yeah.
I don't remember.
It's dangerous light.
Yeah.
Like Coca-Cola light.
Yeah.
It's very similar.
It's just a little bit more dangerous, but it's, it's for me, it's almost comparable
to Tokyo.
Like everybody, the gay neighborhood I would go out, cause I lived a year in Tokyo.
So the, the, the gay neighborhood is in Shinjuku and everybody's like, Oh, Shinjuku is so dangerous.
It's the most dangerous place in the whole of Japan.
And you went there and they were handing out beers, weren't they?
I mean, you know, there's, there's very little danger for someone who spent an hour in Brazil,
you know?
Yeah.
Like what kind of danger would happen to you in Tokyo in that neighborhood?
Okay.
So like, what were the things people were warning you against?
The real things that it's, it's kind of funny for a person who has been in a real violent
situation, but it's, it's sort of like, they're kind of more like a trick, but they're real.
So like the biggest worry that people had was like, when you go into a bar, always ask
for the price.
Oh, okay.
So you're going to get scammed on the price.
But it's not like how you might imagine being scammed in price.
Like, Oh my gosh, they charge 20 euros for this.
No, it's like 800 euros.
They can actually, they can actually put you in debt to, to a point where you ask for a
Coca-Cola and then you're in debt for like a month or two and you have to work for them
for free because it's mafia.
That was the story.
That is pretty bad.
It's pretty bad.
Like I looked at the menu price.
I mean, that's what I mean.
Sure.
There's there's.
Okay.
So those are the stories people were telling you that like you could go in and be in debt
to somebody and have to work for them for slave labor.
Yeah.
And, but in the end it was just like, no, I just looked at the menu.
Very convoluted.
See, that's how I feel about San Francisco.
Like the people talk.
Right.
Yeah.
It's a silly kind of dangerous in a way, but yeah, it can be a bit dangerous.
It can be, of course it can be, but not, yeah, less like any less than a real dangerous.
Somebody.
Yeah.
We love the best country.
Yeah.
10 points for being San Francisco.
It's one of my favorite neighborhoods.
Exactly.
No, it totally is.
I mean, for me, it's a savior, you know, it's got so many, just, just, just the diversity
of the fact that you can go there on a Sunday and buy food because everywhere else is closed.
Yeah.
That's, that's one of my favorites.
And you can get like, um, cultural food, like places, you know, just there's all kinds of
stuff that you can buy there that you can't find anywhere else in town.
Yeah.
Lots of Arabic food.
Yeah.
So I love it.
I love it.
Very fun.
All right.
So this next one, okay.
So this story is pretty silly.
Um, let's go sailing.
Let's go silly.
You know how, okay.
So the big news this week that I heard from a lot of different people was Shakira's new
song.
Oh, this thing about her husband.
Yeah.
Sorry.
X right.
Right.
They divorced.
So Shakira divorces, um, PK, who is a player for Barcelona.
Uh, no, sorry.
Uh, soccer for you guys.
Oh yeah.
Sorry.
For Americans.
I love that you didn't even splinch there.
You're like, what are you talking about?
Well, I mean, I just call it football now.
Hmm.
10 points.
So yeah, soccer in America.
Um, she divorced PK who's a famous, very famous player.
See now I'm talking to Americans because we don't care about Shakira divorces him, but
her basically like, um, her, her first three singles apparently are just all about him
and what an asshole he is.
So the latest song is quite a diss on him.
Have you heard the song?
I only know they're talking about their, their watches, their Casio or that's one part of
it where she's like ripping on the new girl that he's with who's young, very young, careful
now I'm going to grill you.
No, no, no.
She's like 20 year old, right?
So I've got a big girl coming.
What's Basque?
Sorry.
What's Basque about it?
Nothing.
Oh, the only thing about this is Basque is that this girl who's a pretty, I guess she
went viral on Tik Tok because she did the Shakira song in New Sketa.
Oh, so the, the song talking shit about Shakira did about all the lyrics and the song.
So she redid the song, but in New Sketa, this is fun.
Now I finally want to listen to it.
Now I want it in Basque.
I had to listen to the song because I just had to know what the song was all about, but
I haven't listened to the Uscara version.
I'm excited.
So can we give the name of the for listeners to look at it?
Cause I'm going to look it up.
Her name is Kai Nakai.
So K-A-I and then surname, I guess.
N-A-K-A-I.
Sorry.
N-A-K-A-I.
Cool.
That's fun.
Is it like, it's probably on YouTube and stuff, right?
I imagine.
I mean, let me check.
She's putting it on Tik Tok.
So, oh, Tik Tok.
Yes.
So maybe somebody put it on YouTube.
I'm sure for you.
For us, Julie.
Come on.
She's received 170,000 views on Tik Tok and 1 million on Twitter.
Okay.
Well, I typed her and she comes up and Instagram and YouTube.
So looking good.
Yeah.
So very fun.
So did you like the song?
Was it the Shakira one?
No, no.
The Basque one.
I didn't listen to the Basque one.
What?
I know I should have.
The Basque one is the fun one.
I listened to the Shakira one because that's the one I can understand.
I don't understand this guy.
And I wanted to know what Shakira was saying about PK.
What was your first impression of it?
Or maybe listen to it 20 times.
Here's my two cents on the Shakira song.
Because everybody's talking about it.
Sentimos.
What is that in the Shakira?
Two sentimos.
Sentimac.
I think so.
Sentimac.
My two, my B sentimac.
Sentimac.
You got it.
Um, well, okay.
Yeah.
So she's really pissed off at him because he was not a good husband.
Was a dick.
Did he do anything?
And she basically just sings about how like she was, he, she was already way out of his
league as it was.
And, uh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Well, I guess that's what you would say.
The only, the only issue I have with the song, I liked it up until she started bashing the
girl who, like I said, the new girlfriend, because I, because the girl's 20 something.
Okay.
Younger than her.
Right.
So Shakira is like, what in her forties now?
Really?
Wow.
So she's a 20 year old and like comparing her to like, you left a Ferrari for, uh, I
don't know what car she said, Rolex for Casio sort of things, you know, like, Oh, you know,
like that was a Casio line.
Yeah.
Oh, like, like, so for me, it was like, come on, it's a 20 year old girl and you're a 45
year old woman.
I don't know.
That's my, you know, I don't even want to be called out for this, but that was my only
issue with the song.
Otherwise I liked the song and it was actually quite catchy.
Okay.
Let's sit this here.
Maybe it was a first in charts in the future and we don't know about yet.
Yeah.
So sounds fun.
Well, I am excited about the bass song.
I'm really excited about that.
Cool.
Um, and then, okay.
So the last story I have is about, which there's no crime.
Okay, well, let me see.
I had to find a crime.
It made news.
The crime last one is, okay, no, I can, I can make up a crime.
I think.
Wait, wait, wait.
I have to find a crime for, for Shakira song.
There was no, wow.
She's bashing a 20 year old.
That's a crime.
Well, the girl that made it into a skit.
I was at a crime.
No, is it copyright?
No, it's not copyright.
F that we're allowed to do versions.
It's it's it's 2022.
Let's not look at the past.
There's a crime there.
And if we had to talk about a crime with the squid or the seal that showed up on the Basque
shores, we know that without papers, you could not come here.
And we got down to why, why, why did the seal doesn't have papers?
Because UK left the EU.
Brexit tried.
Yeah, it was from Brexit.
Yeah.
Otherwise, please see it would be legal.
Because if it was from Norway, it would be legal, even though they're not in EU.
If it was from Iceland, it would be legal, even though they're not.
So yeah, unless that seal was Russian.
Well, he kept moving on.
So it was only it was more like a tourist tourist.
Yeah, they're all well.
The seal was more of a tourist.
The squid though came here to die.
Right.
Yeah.
Came to die.
This is well, it wasn't Sunday and we didn't fry him up.
Yeah.
And he was like, we could see somebody trying to, you know, you know, commercialize that
or I'm going to be very inconsistent and go back to Shakira and say, the thing is, it's
probably the guy's fault, right?
He's oh, yeah, for sure.
He just went for the younger girl.
So that's the crime.
Oh, yeah, he cheated on her.
I guess that's why they broke up.
The crime is hormones.
The crime is more.
She's a grown man, though.
I mean, we still have hormones.
We all got hormones.
But they are kind of criminal.
No, the crime was that he felt insecure maybe about being married to someone that was way
out of his league.
Crime was he was insecure, Julie.
And she knew it.
She was like, you knew I was way out of your league as it was.
I'm not sure I'm with that.
I would argue that Shakira is a much bigger star than PK.
It's not about everybody knows she Shakira.
So is Madonna people that are like really into football?
Is Madonna always right?
Because she's always better than all her husbands and partners.
Well, she is like a huge person.
She is huge personality and a huge like icon.
But the huge does that make everything she decides?
OK, and not what their partner, her partners decide because she's gone.
She keeps going.
No, but and it wouldn't be they don't want to know.
But if they married her knowing that what a huge star she was and then later had a problem
with it and was like, oh, yeah, that would be that's a problem.
Stupid.
That would be.
Is that what he did?
Did he have a problem?
I don't know.
Maybe, maybe.
Oh, gee.
I don't know these people.
I don't know Shakira, nor do I know you.
You know them a thousand times better than I do.
I don't actually.
Not really.
Me.
Maybe.
Yeah, you got it.
OK, maybe.
Do we have a last story?
OK, let's wrap it up.
So it's not a tragedy.
She divorced him.
It's fine.
No, I just she's going to be just fine.
Shakira is going to be just fine.
Everybody confused that so many stories.
Remember the best version.
So this one doesn't have a crime.
So let's see if you can find the crime here.
It's all criminal.
So this story is amazing because it made news that Basque chef and musician from Boise,
Dan Anso Tegui, Anso Tegui, is the star on CBS Saturday Morning.
And so CBS Saturday Morning is a national morning TV show.
OK.
In the United States.
It's got like multi millions of viewers.
You know, I hope so.
But Dan was my ex boss.
OK, from Bargarico.
I used to work.
That's cute.
In Idaho, in Boise, Idaho.
So he was on the show to talk about his Basque food.
And so perhaps the crime here was that there's a video accompanying this because it was a
TV show that he was on.
So it was on talking about like his his restaurant and his food.
And then he talked about like that the recipe was from his grandmother, who was.
Who came over to Boise when she was like 17 and married.
Wow.
Yeah.
And so he was talking about how the Basques, you know, it was like depression times in
Spain.
There was the Civil War.
Yeah.
So they all went over there for work.
Right.
So many people and many of them became sheep herders.
Yeah.
Because that was the kind of work they were used to.
They knew how to do.
Right.
There's a lot of sheep herding.
They went to Boise or to Idaho to sheep herd.
And then Boise was like the biggest city.
And Boise was Boise was Idaho was not the biggest city.
Boise was the biggest city.
There they had a lot of boarding houses that were by Basque people for Basque people.
Right.
So for the kids to study in town.
No, no.
It was when people were coming over to work.
You said boarding school boarding houses.
Oh, how is it?
Sorry.
I was confused.
Yeah.
Boarding houses.
So so that's why a lot of them ended up in Boise because the guy was asking, why Boise?
Why Boise, Idaho?
And he's like, well, it was the biggest city.
And there were a lot of boarding houses there for Basque people.
Interesting.
So that's why there's a lot of Basque culture in Boise, Idaho.
Yeah.
Right.
Where I'm from, it's one of the biggest in the U.S. founding populations there.
So the crime, I guess, but he's just so lovely.
Dan, he was a lovely boss.
He was one of the best bosses I ever had.
He was super friendly and very kind.
He like it's a crime.
He's not your boss.
No, his crime was that he shared the recipe of his grandmother on television, how to make
the chorizo.
I can hear her twirling in her grave.
Yeah.
What's a family recipe on public on national television?
My gosh.
But it was it's a great little video, though.
You can watch him make it and you're like, you know how to make chorizo.
If anybody's interested, you can check it out and learn how to make Basque chorizo.
That's grandmother's recipe.
Yeah.
And he also has like a band.
He plays the accordion.
And when the guy asked him why the accordion and his response was and I'm not quoting you
directly, Dan, I'm sorry if you're listening, but you said something like, well, nobody
knows if you're doing it right or something like that.
Nobody knows if you're a good player or something like that.
You can't tell if I'm good or bad.
I thought that was so cute.
So yeah, he has a band that also another friend is in the band.
It's called.
So a Mooma says no is the name of the band.
I'm not says no.
But a mama is grandmother in Biscay.
Mama is standard and a Mooma is visca.
OK, so that's it's so I'm from.
So Biscay does so.
No, a mama is Biscay or is that no, it's I think it's I think the original is but to
a Mooma.
A Mooma is but to a yeah.
And I think a mama is is maybe I'm mixing it up.
But that was my impression.
I feel like the batua batua, which would be like the standard standard best language.
I feel like a mama would be the standardized.
And then a Mooma would be from a different from one of the three regions.
Right.
I I I I've got the other point of view, but I'm just trying to think where I could look
for this because I'm not sure who says where the words are from, because, you know, dialects,
let's just use them.
They don't really as long as it's second.
Well, let's find out.
Yes.
I'm just I don't I you know, that's the thing.
It's not something that people care about so much.
So a mama isn't even considered grandmother in my first dictionary.
A mama.
Yeah, it's considered telaranya.
I'm not even it's either a spider or the spider's web in this labairu, which is considered a
very good dictionary.
And then a Mooma.
So maybe you're right, because a mama doesn't even come up in labairu.
It's a problem.
So the issue here is that Basque is really a lot of dialects of Basque in valleys.
And then in the 50s and 60s, they created the standard common language called Batua,
which is what we're talking about.
And Biscayet is the dialect of Biscayet, the province we live in.
And well, all I know is that my nephews call their grandmother, their grandmother, a mama.
Yeah.
And I think I don't know if it's Batua or if that's yeah, I think it's Batua.
I think it's the standard version.
Personally, again, now could be.
This is the kind of thing because that's what they're learning at school and stuff.
Yeah, I think it is.
I think it is.
Yeah, because anyway, Dan's band is called Amooma.
Amooma says no.
And then says no.
That's fun.
So it's like grandma says no.
I do like that.
And yeah, I think Amooma is more shout out to you guys.
It's very cute.
And to all your success as a band.
Yeah.
And Sean, Sean's a member of that band, too.
Another friend.
You said accordion, right?
Accordion is super typical.
Dan plays the accordion.
Yeah.
Super typical instrument and traditional music around here.
Yeah.
Hmm.
That sounds fun.
Yeah.
I listen to that.
Yeah.
But I thought that was great.
I saw him in the news.
My old boss.
That is sweet.
Yeah.
And he's a very nice guy and very down to earth.
And it was a very cute interview.
Good memory.
Yeah.
He's teaching him how to make chorizo.
Still have a restaurant in Boise.
Yes.
And his restaurant is called Ansobs.
And sops short for Ansobs.
And so Tegui.
But I will say Anso Tegui.
That's how you would pronounce his last name, right?
Anso Tegui.
Yeah.
But the reporter was pronouncing it.
Yeah.
Terribly.
But Dan didn't correct him either.
So I don't know how Dan corrects it.
Well, however Dan pronounces his name is how his name is pronounced, I would say.
Well, that's any country that has immigrants.
Yeah.
Tends to do that.
Yeah.
And you just, you know, there's a point where you just say whatever.
Yes.
Just as long as you're trying to say my name.
Yeah.
But, you know, we're in the Basque Country and yeah, Anso Tegui.
The funny thing is I've never heard it, but there is a place called Alonso Tegui.
And it sounds very easy that somebody just misheard that.
And I wonder if it's got a different origin, that name, but maybe it does.
Maybe it doesn't.
Anyway, that's what comes to mind.
It's Alonso Tegui and not Anso Tegui.
Anso Tegui.
It sounds fun.
And he's a fun guy.
Lovely.
Well, Douglas, it's been another lovely evening with you chatting.
Fantastic.
About the Basque Country.
And some sort of crimes.
Some of them crimes.
Some of them, you be the judge.
Some of them criminal.
Just downright criminal.
And very good drinks and lots.
I hope you guys enjoyed the chat as well.
Thanks to Drunken Bros for getting us drunken.
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Good night, Douglas.
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