1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Bat, bi, Hiru, lau 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Watch your back, watch your back 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Ertzaintza's gonna get you 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Watch your back, watch your back 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Ertzaintza's gonna get you 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Watch your back, watch your back 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Oh, there's a crime here 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 It's a coming from the Euskal Herria 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Gotta wash those red hands 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,000 It's the crimes of the Basquelands 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,000 It's the crimes of the Basquelands 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,000 3-day week, awesome 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 We had a holiday 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 The rest of us 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 It's true, I didn't count how many 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 I think I must have worked like 2 days this week 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 So, winning 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Very nice, yes it is winning 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 You get those time off 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Welcome everybody to crimes of the Basquelands 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Yes, welcome, welcome 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Ongi et ori 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Ongi et ori, that's welcome in Basque, exactly 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Today we're drinking a cider 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 And I'm just checking the name 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Uxarte, that's U-X-A-R-T-E 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,000 And it's a nice Bizkaian 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Bizkaian txakoli, which means, you know 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Well, txakoli, not txakoli, sorry 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Sidra 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 It just comes naturally, doesn't it 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Yes, Bizkaian cider 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000 And the cider is basically one of the traditional drinks of the Basque Country actually 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 It's more traditional, let's say, than wine 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Yeah, more apples than grapes 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Yeah, the thing is the grapes grow better, right, towards like lower lands 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Like the flat lands, like Rioja 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,000 There's a part of Rioja that is inside the Basque Country 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,000 And then traditionally, when you get into the mountains instead of the grapes 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 You'd use the apples to make cider 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 And it's a long, long tradition in Basque Country 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Probably brought in by the Celtic peoples 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Who emigrated into the Iberian peninsula 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 But they have taken it and ran with it, haven't they? 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 It's a big thing here 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 It's huge 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 There's a whole season 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Yeah, cider season 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 It's lovely and it's a typical thing we do here 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,000 We go to cider houses with big groups of people 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 And then there's a set number of food like bakalao 52 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Bakalao and omelette 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Which is a dried cod omelette 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 And a few other, lots of meat as well 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Fried peppers, big old steak 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Yeah, it's a set menu, sort of a set menu in a way 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 It is a set menu 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 You're also allowed to take your own food 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 You have chorizo in cider 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Cooked in cider 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,000 What else do they give you? 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Oh, the cheese with nuts, with walnuts 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 As your dessert 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 And the membrillo, the quince fruit 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Quince jelly 66 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 And it's kind of a set menu 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Basque people like predictability 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 And they like tradition 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Yeah, so that tradition is very fixed these days 70 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,000 It's a great day out 71 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 It really is, it's a lot of fun 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 It's a lot of fun 73 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Exactly 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 But you know, it's been a big part of Basque culture 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Even fishing for, oops, something fell 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 It's all good 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 It's fine 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Like even going, the Basques are quite well known 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Historically for being one of the first Europeans 80 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 To arrive to North America as well 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 When they were hunting whales and cods 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 And even in those times they would always take the cider 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Which was great 84 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Hmm, probably keeps for a long time 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,000 It does, but what's more important? 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 It has vitamin C 87 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Ah, yes 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Very important, scurvy 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Yeah 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Gotta prevent that scurvy 91 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Yeah, they didn't really know that, but it works 92 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,000 It works, yeah 93 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 They had no idea what good they were doing for themselves 94 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Yeah, better than the gin that the British were taking everywhere 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Idiots, no, kidding 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Eventually they 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 I don't want to offend any of you Brits out there 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Eventually they hit 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 They hit gin on the high seas 100 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 They hit on the lime and the tonic, so 101 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 It's a good history, I think 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Yeah 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Okay, cool 104 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 All right 105 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 So you're gonna start 106 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Yeah, so this is a mini episode today 107 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,000 We're gonna be just telling some stories from the news 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Here in the Basque country or elsewhere 109 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Mm-hmm 110 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 So let's see, what do we have? 111 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Okay, so we have three people arrested 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:17,000 In, oh gosh, Bortsirak 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Bortsirak 114 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Bortsirak, no? 115 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Bortsirak 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Okay, so three people were arrested for growing 94 marijuana plants 117 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 94, okay, three people arrested, yes 118 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 We are allowed to have three plants or two plants each 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 I don't know 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 It's either two or three, I think 121 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 So they're clearly over the limits 122 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Yes 123 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Yeah, between three, we know that math, right? 124 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,000 That math we can do, that 94 is more than those three people are allowed 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,000 It's more, yeah 126 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Yeah 127 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,000 So let's see, so they arrested three people 128 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,000 They were 24, 29, and 41 129 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Okay 130 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,000 In Bortsirak region 131 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:16,000 And they were on a routine patrol to prevent crimes against property 132 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:23,000 A citizen security patrol perceived a strong smell of marijuana near an abandoned farmhouse 133 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 That's how they were clued in 134 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:31,000 And despite the abundant undergrowth that made the access to the property difficult 135 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,000 The agents found 94 large marijuana plants 136 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Hoses, plastic bottles, fertilizer containers, okay? 137 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 They found all the stuff needed to grow marijuana, right? 138 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Yeah 139 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:52,000 And they also noted that this plot of land had been cleared of weeds and prepared for like cultivation 140 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,000 So it was outside 141 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Yeah, yeah, it was outside of this abandoned farmhouse 142 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Mm-hmm 143 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 So they found it, right? 144 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 And then in order to, you know, kind of catch the people in the act 145 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,000 They just started a surveillance of the place, but through drones 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Wow 147 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Yeah, so they had a drone flying over the property for a while 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Which captured like images of them 149 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Oh, wow 150 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,000 You know, working on the farm 151 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Mm-hmm 152 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 And yeah, and so they had their evidence 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,000 And when the three of them left the place one day, they intercepted their vehicle 154 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,000 And they were, they had found in their trunk six bottles of water used to irrigate the plantation 155 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 So basically all they found on them when they detained them was 156 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Water 157 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Water 158 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 I mean, I'm supposing 159 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 But they did have the photographic evidence 160 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,000 The drones, yeah 161 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Of them working, harvesting, you know, farming 162 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Okay, well, it's kind of surprising 163 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Yeah 164 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,000 There's a clear 165 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,000 It's surprising why 166 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 There's a clear oversupply of marijuana right now 167 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Is there? 168 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Mm-hmm 169 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 I didn't know that 170 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 And then outside 171 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 A clear oversupply 172 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 There's a very clear oversupply, yeah 173 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 So there's lots of abandoned farmhouses 174 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Yeah, like the thing is like here it's legal to buy marijuana at an association 175 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Mm-hmm 176 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 And of course, I don't know if it's of course 177 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,000 But I know as a matter of fact that if you grow it outside 178 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 It's lower quality than indoor grown 179 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Mm-hmm 180 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:32,000 So the normal kind, like the species that we usually smoke here is Critebilbo 181 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,000 So Critico 182 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Critebilbo 183 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Critico Bilbao is the full name of the marijuana 184 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 And it usually goes for like five euros a gram 185 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 And it's down, it's under three right now 186 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Ah, and that's why you know 187 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 That's an inside plant, it's not even an outside plant 188 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 So it'll be even cheaper 189 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,000 It must be real cheap, yeah 190 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:58,000 So you know, it's clearly a plantation for more than your own consumption though, so 191 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Yeah 192 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Hey 193 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Yep, drones 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Not a good investment 195 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Drones 196 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 But the thing about the drone is like aren't they kind of noisy? 197 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,000 They're pretty noisy 198 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Can't you hear, yeah, how did they not notice a drone flying ahead? 199 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 I mean some people like to work listening to music 200 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Yeah, I was thinking that too 201 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Maybe they were listening to music or podcasts 202 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Yeah, they might be listening to our podcast, how ironic 203 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Well, yeah, at the beginning when you said there was an abandoned house, farmhouse 204 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 I was like, oh, maybe it's inside, yeah, maybe it had electricity 205 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Maybe it would make sense 206 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 But then being outside, it's like, well 207 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Yeah 208 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 I wonder 209 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Not the best businessman, I would say, unfortunately 210 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Well, they were young except for that 41-year-old that was hanging out with 20-some-year-olds 211 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Didn't know better 212 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,000 But then again, it might not have been, we don't know the species 213 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:56,000 It could have been one of those really expensive kind of Californian varieties 214 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 That fetch 12 euros per gram 215 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Yeah, I didn't see anything about them having like a greenhouse 216 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 I could see that being more 217 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,000 But if it's a good quality genetics, as we would say, you know 218 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 It would produce way better products 219 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,000 So I'm just going baseline, outside is not a good idea 220 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,000 And in general, the market's not really looking for a lot 221 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,000 So it is a current story, right? 222 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Yeah, this was... 223 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Oh, shit, when was that? 224 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Oh, it was on the 8th of October 225 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Because, yeah, so technically you're supposed to plant your plants within the association 226 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:42,000 So these associations usually are in Alonja, which are the places that are kind of 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Like commercial space, but... 228 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Exactly, at the bottom of a building you usually have the commercial space 229 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And so they're usually big enough that you can have indoor plants 230 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,000 But even so, you know, the market isn't very controlled 231 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,000 So, you know, people buy from outside as well 232 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,000 So these people can easily sell two associations 233 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,000 I mean, it can get caught, but that's the only risk 234 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:16,000 But then again, even Amsterdam, you know, they're not either allowed to buy plants in Amsterdam 235 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,000 So the buying process for the associations is always illegal 236 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 So we have that in common 237 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Gotcha 238 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 But anyway, here at least we're allowed to grow them in sites, especially with associations 239 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,000 It wouldn't be a problem to have 90 plants in an association as long as you have a big number 240 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 The clientele 241 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 To smoke it, yeah 242 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 That fits the... yeah 243 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,000 And of course, I'm part of an association, which is why I know some of those things 244 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Wow, look at you 245 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 I mean, I partake in smoking Maria 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Same 247 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 As I'm sure you know 248 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Come on, it's not a crime anymore 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 People need to get with it, it's not a crime 250 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Exactly 251 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Okay, all right 252 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 That's a good story 253 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Well, thanks 254 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 My one now? 255 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Yeah 256 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 We're going for me 257 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000 What's here? What you got? 258 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,000 So my story is about a young man 259 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,000 They call him an adolescent, but he's 19 260 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Whose surnames are Orozco Jimenez 261 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,000 And Orozco is a village just south of here 262 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 It's one of the last villages in Vizcaya 263 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,000 If you just go south just before Alava 264 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Oh, Orozco 265 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Yeah 266 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 There was a crime in Orozco 267 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 There was 268 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Yeah, that's going to be an episode someday 269 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 That sounds fun 270 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Yeah, well, it wasn't fun, but... 271 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Oh, no 272 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 They never are 273 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 No 274 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 But I was like, why does that sound familiar? 275 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Oh, yes, I've been researching that 276 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 It's quite a common name 277 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 I think there's a couple of streets 278 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 At least this one street with Orozco and Bilbao, right? 279 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Oh, maybe, I don't know 280 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 It just seems very familiar 281 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:06,000 And the story comes from Managua, Nicaragua, Central America 282 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,000 And unfortunately, the young man was mining in an illegal mine 283 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 In an informal mine 284 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Oh 285 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:21,000 And he went down into the mine at 10 a.m. 286 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 And started feeling a little bit dizzy 287 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 He came out, had a breather 288 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,000 And then he went back in half an hour later and never came back 289 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 And his friends went in to get him 290 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 He had... 291 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Friends or coworkers? 292 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Co-workers, yeah 293 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,000 They found him on the floor, kind of unconscious 294 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 And unfortunately, when they managed to get him to the hospital 295 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 He had already passed away 296 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,000 And they concluded it was CO2 poisoning 297 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Yeah, that's what I was thinking, like a gas 298 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 From a mine, yeah, no canaries 299 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 No 300 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 I mean, I don't know what the... 301 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Clearly the crime here is health and safety 302 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Yeah 303 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,000 I mean, a minimum of health and safety is necessary for a ton of things 304 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Yeah, you'd think they'd have like detectors 305 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Because you can get pretty basic equipment 306 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Yeah, I mean, you know, the famous old canary 307 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I mean, any... 308 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Or a bird 309 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Any bird, yeah 310 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Would work, right? I suppose 311 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Poor bird 312 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Little birds 313 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,000 I just hope the bird do that 314 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 I know, but what I mean is... 315 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,000 There's machine... 316 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,000 There are two, you know 317 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 There's equipment now 318 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 It can be a nice... 319 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,000 That you can read a meter and it says you've got a too high level of, you know 320 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,000 But how much money do they have in Nicaragua to spend on health and safety? 321 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,000 I feel like people buy these for their houses and they're not that expensive 322 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 True, like I have a CO2 meter, but... 323 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,000 See? 324 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,000 It was like 120 euros 325 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 For a mining company? That's nothing 326 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,000 It's not company, it's informal 327 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,000 It's just people going underground 328 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,000 What were they mining? 329 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 I didn't mention actually 330 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:02,000 I guess if we look at what they generally get in the area, we can find that out 331 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Oh 332 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Do you want me to? 333 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,000 So was it like a group of friends or was he working for a company? 334 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Do you know anything like that? 335 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:14,000 That's the only news is that, you know, it was just a health and safety piece of story 336 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:20,000 I mean, I just assumed it was a situation very similar to what happens in the Congo 337 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,000 where lots of rare earths are mined 338 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 and it's completely informal, as they would put it, you know 339 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:35,000 It's just people that are told what we're looking for and they learn how to look for it 340 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,000 but it's pretty rogue and sort of haphazards 341 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:47,000 and the way they describe these two other coworkers of his, you know 342 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 they're just other young kids, you know 343 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Yeah 344 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Typically gold and silver 345 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Okay, thank you 346 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Gold and silver 347 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 That's easy to identify 348 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Is that ring bells? 349 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:06,000 No, only because in the Americas that's what they were, you know, I think back to history 350 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 It's a typical thing 351 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,000 They went and got all the gold out of Central South America 352 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 or the Americas 353 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 That's a story 354 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 That's a big crime 355 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Brought it back to the crown 356 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,000 All those churches covered in gold and silver 357 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 That's definitely a thing 358 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Yeah 359 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Wow, that's too bad 360 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 As you can see, I mean, actually there's an interesting historical aspect 361 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 which I think we're probably going to come across quite a few times 362 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,000 which is actually Basque people were extremely viable in the beginning of colonization of the Americas 363 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 because they were already mining here in the Basque Country 364 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 and so they were experts in that field of mining 365 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:55,000 So they were always generally chosen to lead those efforts to organize the mining to 366 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:02,000 You know, clearly this guy unlearned his health and safety traditions 367 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Well, isn't it like odorless? It's hard to know 368 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Oh, for sure. Yeah, but you know 369 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 People are dying their houses all the time of that 370 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Yeah 371 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Yeah, like elite 372 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,000 And they just die overnight sleeping 373 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:21,000 I'm amazed at how much CO2 one person can create in one room, you know 374 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Is that why you have a meter to see how much you're producing? 375 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,000 I got it because I've been smoking inside the house 376 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 and I was curious how bad it got inside the house 377 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:38,000 I do open the window sometimes, but not, you know, it wasn't automatic or constant 378 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,000 After I've gotten a meter, I've realized how bad it is 379 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 I mean the CO2 doesn't get so bad 380 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 But just seeing the CO2, how bad it gets, how fast 381 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Like within three hours, it'll go like the normal base is like 380, I guess 382 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:01,000 It's the normal sort of in town parts of CO2 per whatever they count 383 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:07,000 And then the worst I've gotten like when two friends of mine came to visit 384 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 It was Zach and his girlfriends 385 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Us three, because it was a cold night 386 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,000 So we closed the windows and us three got to 1200 387 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 With three people overnight 388 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Immediately in the morning we opened it 389 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,000 But anything over 800, it's like, it's bad 390 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,000 So I was quite surprised when it got to 1200 or 300 391 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,000 It was like a thousand over 392 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,000 It's like four times the concentration than normal 393 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,000 So where did it come from in this mine? 394 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,000 That's the thing, I mean I know CO2 poisoning is a thing 395 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,000 But I don't know if it's just randomly in the earth 396 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,000 I suppose there's just CO2 in earth, you know 397 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Oh, I guess like, because also if it's related to gas, right? 398 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Like then there are gas deposits 399 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000 So that's what I was thinking 400 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Shale mining, but like would you count that gas as CO2 poisoning? 401 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,000 That's what they called it, but I could be wrong 402 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Yeah, I'm gonna assume that's what it is 403 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000 I'm sorry, we're clearly not experts 404 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000 No 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Well, Douglas sounds like a better expert than I am 406 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Just from what people release regularly 407 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 That's the CO2 you're counting 408 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000 I'm counting that 409 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 We excel on a regular basis 410 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,000 And I imagine this counter is gonna count carbon monoxide as well 411 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Oh, maybe that's what I'm thinking, carbon monoxide 412 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,000 That sounds more appropriate when I'm thinking of the meters for that 413 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 That's what the car does, right? 414 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 When a car burns fuel, you die from more carbon monoxide 415 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000 I think, I think 416 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000 I remember reading at some point 417 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Our listeners were correct 418 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Yeah, they're gonna come at us 419 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,000 I mean, it was a nice exploration of the history of the Basque Country in mining 420 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,000 It's a very ugly history 421 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000 But it's clearly... 422 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Yes, mining always is, isn't it? 423 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:11,000 But it still has, you know, clear, you know, the guy not only is... 424 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Regardless, yes, he died in a mine 425 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Yeah, his surname is Basque 426 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000 What was his surname? 427 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Orozco 428 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Oh yeah, Orozco 429 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:24,000 And he's still, you know, his family probably never stopped mining 430 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Hmm, yes, he comes from a long line of miners 431 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Hmm, and well, that was that story, yes 432 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,000 You can build a whole backstory for him and his family 433 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 I mean, it's a bit of a guess 434 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Maybe half the country is Basque surnames and we're just taking... 435 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,000 And half the country are ex-miners or of miners 436 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,000 I'm not sure, I mean, Nicaragua is not known for a lot of gold or... 437 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,000 I don't know 438 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Maybe it just gets... 439 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Back in the day, maybe 440 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Maybe it's just not taxed 441 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Who knows? 442 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Well, our feelings grow out to his family 443 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Well, this is not about Nicaragua as a podcast, so... 444 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 And even if it were 445 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,000 I mean, it's about the consequences of Basque people around the world as well 446 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,000 And clearly, that was not the best of consequences 447 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,000 But hey, you know, maybe rest in peace 448 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Good, yeah, exactly, poor guy 449 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 So you have a story for us now? 450 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Yeah, this one... 451 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,000 This was the biggest story I think from this month 452 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Mm-hmm 453 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 So I'm going to try to find... 454 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Because I have a lot of information on it, but I'm going to try to summarize it 455 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Okay 456 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Well, basically, a woman went into Bursurto Hospital 457 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Bursurto, yeah 458 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Mm-hmm, which is here in Bilbao 459 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,000 I think it was about the 19th of October 460 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:03,000 She went in dressed as a worker there, like in white scrubs 461 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Mm-hmm 462 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 So, you know, impersonating a worker 463 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Impersonating someone that worked there, yeah 464 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:14,000 And went into a room where a couple had just had a baby 465 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Okay 466 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,000 And told the mother that they had to do some tests on the baby and kidnapped the baby 467 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Oh my gosh 468 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Yeah 469 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,000 So they, you know, of course, everything went... 470 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000 You know, alarms went off very shortly after 471 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Good 472 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Like maybe another nurse came in and the woman... 473 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Yeah 474 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,000 The mother said, oh, I thought you just took the baby for tests 475 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000 And I'm like, what are you talking about? 476 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Mm-hmm 477 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:43,000 So she, yeah, took the baby and... 478 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,000 And then it was until it was like... 479 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000 That was at night 480 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Okay 481 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,000 It happened at night 482 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000 I think it was about 11... 483 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Oh, it was 11 o'clock at night 484 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Mm-hmm 485 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,000 They had like a CCTV cameras caught her 486 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Yeah 487 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:03,000 So they were looking for her, looking for, you know, asking everybody to keep an eye out for someone who looks like this 488 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Or come to, you know, report to the police 489 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 And this is how they describe her 490 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,000 6... 1.6 meters tall with an obese body 491 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Complexion 492 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Complexion is how they put it 493 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000 But complexion in English is your skin, not your body type 494 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000 I guess, yeah 495 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Sorry, sorry 496 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Obese 497 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Long curly hair tied up in a bun 498 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 So that's how they described her 499 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Okay 500 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,000 And it also said that... 501 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Then, okay, so the following morning, like 8 o'clock in the morning 502 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Somebody in Santuchu opened their door to their house, their apartment door 503 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Mm-hmm 504 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,000 And there was the baby laying on their, like, welcome mat 505 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Oh my gosh 506 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Yeah 507 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,000 Like, fine, yeah 508 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Which is just... 509 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000 It's perfectly fine 510 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Greater Bilbao, just in the north 511 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Yeah 512 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,000 So the woman apparently dropped it, like, knew she was gonna get caught or whatever 513 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 And just put the baby on someone's doorstep, basically 514 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Okay 515 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000 I'm getting mixed up, Santuchu's just downtown 516 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Yeah, it's not that far 517 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000 I mix up with Santulci, that's why 518 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Yeah, yeah 519 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Sorry 520 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000 I used to confuse those, too 521 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000 So then they were still looking for her because the baby appeared, but not her 522 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 What a horrible night for the parents 523 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000 I know 524 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000 I'm glad they figured out the child by the morning 525 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Okay, that's something 526 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 I heard something about a baby 527 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 I'd never heard all those details 528 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 That's a horrible story 529 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Yeah 530 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000 And so eventually they did arrest her 531 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 They figured out who she was 532 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000 I'm trying to find the article that I had 533 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 I have a lot of them here 534 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Oh yeah, could you post them? 535 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,000 She was a 24-year-old girl 536 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,000 She was arrested on Thursday, so that must have been... 537 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 I don't know 538 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Some days later 539 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Must have been a few days later, yeah 540 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Mm-hmm 541 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Yep, so she was arrested 542 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:04,000 She was located in the company of a friend at about 10.45 a.m. 543 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:11,000 They were in Asoka Square in the Sorosa neighborhood, Sorosa 544 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Okay, yeah, that's north of the city of Bobao 545 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Yeah, so they found her 546 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000 They went to search her house 547 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,000 They found baby stuff at her house, like a high chair and a stroller 548 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Okay 549 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 So as if she was expecting a baby 550 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:34,000 And also that according to her neighbors and her partner 551 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 She had been saying she was pregnant 552 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Oh, wow, so it seems like some kind of psychological issue 553 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Well, yes, or maybe she miscarried and didn't want to admit she didn't... 554 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 She wanted to produce a baby 555 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 I've heard of stories like this, like all the true crime I've read 556 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 There have been several stories like this and some worse than others 557 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 You know, like murder and... 558 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 For sure 559 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,000 So yeah, it's not surprising that somebody was faking a pregnancy 560 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 I mean, it is surprising, it's obviously troubling 561 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 I mean, it's not the first time I've heard of that either 562 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Yeah, so apparently that's what was happening 563 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 So she was desperate to find a baby 564 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 She's kind of young though, right? 26? 565 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Yeah, 24 566 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,000 24, wow 567 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Yeah 568 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Like, I wonder 569 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,000 And now she's been released on provisional release 570 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 So... 571 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Wow 572 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Awaiting her trial or whatever is gonna happen 573 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 That's intense, I mean 574 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Yeah, so that was the other... that was the big story in the last few days 575 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Wow, so that was this week as well, yeah 576 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Yeah, it was like not this week but the last week 577 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,000 So it says here, there was another thing, two similar cases a decade ago 578 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000 2014, 2012 579 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000 In the Osaki Vecchia Hospital Network 580 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 So Osaki Vecchia is the... 581 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000 VASC health system 582 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Yeah 583 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,000 The first kidnapping took place a decade ago at the D'Nostia Hospital 584 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,000 A woman with psychiatric problems took a baby while her parents were sleeping 585 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 The parents of the baby, I'm assuming 586 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000 The little boy was found a few hours later in perfect health 587 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Good to hear 588 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000 The one who took her was... 589 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Got a taxi, and it was the taxi driver who notified the police 590 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Right 591 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,000 And then another woman in 2014, dressed as a health worker, attempted a similar adoption at the same hospital 592 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000 In this case, a nursing assistant realized that she was not a worker 593 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Wow 594 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000 So took the child from her 595 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Nice, good job nurse 596 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 I'm glad all the babies are safe in those stories 597 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Yeah 598 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000 That's the most important thing 599 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000 And the mothers, because I've heard terrible stories about a mother 600 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:53,000 I mean that mother, this week's episode, she would have had a terrible first night 601 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000 That's a good story though 602 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Yeah 603 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000 For mine to tell you, guess what? Your first night you were kidnapped 604 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Yeah, I know, right? That's your history 605 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000 They keep it from you until you're older to understand 606 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,000 I mean, yeah 607 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,000 You guys have been told that 608 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Two years old, it doesn't make sense 609 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000 What? Mother? That explains so much 610 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000 As if, as if 611 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 I should have been in therapy from day one 612 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Hilarious 613 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Do you have many memories as a very small child? I have barely any 614 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,000 No, but I feel like, I mean, I've heard that those things affect you as a child 615 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,000 You like, even though you don't like, remember them exactly 616 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 They still imprint something on you 617 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000 These experiences of being away from 618 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000 I know, like 619 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Your mother and 620 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000 In the first hours, it's quite 621 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,000 And with somebody who's like agitated, obviously, because they just kidnapped you 622 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:50,000 And they're freaked out, you know, so like it's a very strange first bonding experience with somebody 623 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Yeah, yeah 624 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 I mean, that you should 625 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 And then being left on a doorstep 626 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,000 They were in a room before with the mother, so it was a little bit initial bonding, but yeah 627 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Right, and then to immediately have that go away 628 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Whole night without, yeah, that's pretty random 629 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000 But I mean, you know, people, the babies are taken away 630 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000 To get generally, yeah 631 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000 Yeah, or put in an incubator 632 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000 So 633 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,000 But I feel like they say that kind of imprints on you too, like if you were kept in an incubator for the first few months or something 634 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,000 For sure, because yeah, you barely any human contact 635 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:29,000 That sounds very difficult on any child, but yeah, in my case, I remember very little before I'm seven 636 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000 In my case 637 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Oh, me too 638 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Me too 639 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 So they could, you know 640 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Excuse me 641 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000 My mom actually, she always tells 642 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000 She was always very irritated with the United States 643 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000 And why not, right? 644 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 The whole planet is 645 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000 But 646 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000 What? 647 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Her, I mean, you know, for different political reasons or whatever 648 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,000 But in her case, it turns out, like when I was an adolescent 649 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000 She was like, yeah, like when you're a baby 650 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Like they were like opening your nappies and checking if you didn't have drugs inside 651 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000 And I was all like 652 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000 Oh, going into the States 653 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Yeah, because we 654 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 So 655 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000 I was a baby 656 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 And then mom, I was born in Latin America 657 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Classic drug trafficking 658 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Yeah, my mom went to visit 659 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Scotland, her parents 660 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,000 And then so obviously the flight would be coming back through 661 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 United States somehow 662 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Probably LA because mom would probably have stayed with 663 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000 My her her aunt and an uncle 664 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000 And so, yeah 665 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000 And then search by customs as a baby 666 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Yeah, and she felt very mistreated 667 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 And then I remembered in the same trip 668 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 She took me out on a walk 669 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000 That's a no no 670 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000 What? 671 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Yeah, the police stopped her because they were like 672 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000 It's LA 673 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 You gotta be in a car 674 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000 They put her in a car and took her back to my uncle and aunt's place 675 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,000 What? 676 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Yeah, they were like, you don't walk here 677 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000 What? 678 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000 My mom's like 679 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000 That sounds far fetched 680 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000 I'm European 681 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 I mean, I guess if she was on the road 682 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000 That would be dangerous because there's no sidewalks 683 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Because I can see that there's probably no sidewalks in long places 684 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,000 So you can't really be walking in the street 685 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000 It's a thing 686 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 That's where the cars go 687 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000 I've heard of many stories of Europeans walking 688 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000 And the American police just going, no, you're not allowed to walk here 689 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 I know it's not a total rule in LA 690 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Because my other friend Inigo, you know Inigo 691 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000 He was working there for some months 692 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 And he was walking everywhere 693 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Through all the neighborhoods you're not supposed to 694 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:43,000 But he'd walk from the sea for like four hours into downtown 695 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000 And I'm like, that doesn't sound like a nice walk 696 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000 He's like, it wasn't 697 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,000 It was just a long walk, yeah, like a very busy roadway the whole time 698 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 He probably took the same amount of time as a driver 699 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 But you know 700 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Probably 701 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000 LA for you 702 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000 There you go, baby stories 703 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Well, there you go, I didn't know that 704 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 That's something I've learned about you today 705 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000 That you had customs going through your diapers 706 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000 And I couldn't go for a walk without a car 707 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000 I mean, a bit of a contradiction, but 708 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,000 That's that's ma'am, we're going to need you to park or something 709 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, in a car 710 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Get there by car, please 711 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,000 But yeah, not part of my memories, but part of my history 712 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Yeah 713 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000 No kidnappings as far as I know 714 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000 Same 715 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 I haven't been told anything yet 716 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 I think they would have told me by now 717 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000 I mean, maybe they're asking you to ask or waiting for you to ask 718 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Should I ask the next time I talk to my mom? 719 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000 Mom, have I ever been kidnapped? 720 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000 Mom, have I been kidnapped? Yes or no? 721 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,000 It would be hilarious if she goes 722 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Well, one time 723 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Was that you or was that your sister? 724 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Yeah 725 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Well, we lost you for a few hours 726 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Somebody brought you back though 727 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 You were fine 728 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 It was the 80s 729 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Yeah, it was 730 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000 So I would be talking about about 1981 731 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 When these two things happened 732 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Yeah 733 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000 If we think about those around about there 734 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000 My sister was born in 82, so she wasn't there yet 735 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 So it would have been a difference 736 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 She would not have gone out walking with two children 737 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000 She wouldn't need a car for that 738 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 She would be in the road basically 739 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,000 I mean, I can see the cops stopping her if she was in the road 740 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000 You're defending American cops way too much 741 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000 I'm not defending the cops, I'm defending the fact that there's probably no sidewalks 742 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Because nobody walks 743 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Or you're walking on private property 744 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Yeah 745 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 So that was probably what the cops' issue was 746 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000 Either they were in the road or they were on private property 747 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Well, actually 748 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Lawns or something 749 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 I didn't think we'd get to this point of the story 750 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000 But we've circled back to the Basque Country 751 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Oh, how did we do that? 752 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Because my uncle and aunt 753 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000 The latest place I know they've been living in 754 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 I don't know if it's where they lived then 755 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 But they lived in Thousand Oaks 756 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Well, my uncle still lives there 757 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Familiar with that 758 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 And Thousand Oaks is still well known 759 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,000 As originally being a Basque herders region 760 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Oh really? 761 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000 In the North of LA and the mountains, yeah 762 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 And even when I visited there last 763 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 My uncle was reminding me of that 764 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000 So it's still a well-known fact around there 765 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Of course it's been filled with people now 766 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 But historically 767 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Full of shopping malls and strip malls 768 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 And suburbs 769 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Fast food joints 770 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 And maybe a farmers' market 771 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000 I don't know how affluent it is 772 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Is it pretty affluent? 773 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Oh, then there's a farmers' market 774 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 For sure, for sure 775 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Short drives to some gorgeous beaches 776 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000 That was a good memory 777 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000 No, actually on the West Coast it's not so privatized 778 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Like on the East Coast 779 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Even though they're not allowed to 780 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,000 The residents along the coast are making the coastline private 781 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000 And non-residents aren't allowed to go there 782 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000 And people go out and harass people 783 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000 That try to just go to the beach for the day 784 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000 I think that's just outrageous 785 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Yeah, I've read about that 786 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Like what? This is public land 787 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Even in California I've read about that happening 788 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 I can see it like in Malibu 789 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000 Like the really, really affluent places 790 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Yeah, I remember reading some story 791 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,000 And there was this 792 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Santa Barbara 793 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000 Let's say crazy woman 794 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Karen, some Karen 795 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Perfect term 796 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000 I shouldn't use it as my mom's called Karen 797 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Oh, is she? 798 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000 It's unfortunate for nice Karen's out there 799 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,000 It's very unfortunate 800 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 So this Karen was putting up some signs 801 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 All over the place saying like 802 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000 There's like dangerous sharks in the water 803 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000 To get people not to go in the water 804 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Or go to the beach 805 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000 She was like 806 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,000 But then of course the surfers knew better 807 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000 For one, there are sharks everywhere 808 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000 So it's not going to work 809 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 So I remember that story 810 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 And they were talking how a number of beaches 811 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Had in practice become sort of inaccessible 812 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,000 Just harass people so they'll leave 813 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000 And I don't know if it was 814 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Where are you? Where's your ID? 815 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000 Do you live here? What are you doing here? 816 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000 What reason do you have to be here? 817 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000 And people are like 818 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Why did you just come to the beach? 819 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000 We need to know our rights 820 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,000 But who are you? 821 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000 That's Karen 822 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000 But the only time that my friends took me to the beach there 823 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000 It seemed like it was next to like a nature reserve 824 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Because there was some nice mountains around 825 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,000 There was no houses 826 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000 And we just drove to this lovely beach 827 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Lovely sunsets 828 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Good memories, good memories 829 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 I mean there's a lot of them along the California coast 830 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000 So it would be anywhere 831 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Beautiful 832 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Big Sur maybe? I don't know 833 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000 If it was a famous one 834 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000 I don't know 835 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000 If you look at Thousand Oaks on a map 836 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 And go west 837 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000 That's pretty much where we went 838 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000 To the west is the beach 839 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,000 Is the beach 840 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,000 You'll head to the beach 841 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 That's more or less where I was 842 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Good memories, good memories 843 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Nice 844 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000 My turn for a story now 845 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Why don't we take a break and then more 846 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000 We're doing it 847 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000 We're doing it 848 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000 Okey dokey 849 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Okay 850 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000 Alright 851 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,000 And we're back 852 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000 Yeah 853 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:37,000 So the next story is downtown from this week 854 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000 I had not heard about this 855 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Me neither 856 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 When you pointed it out 857 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000 No it was Megan 858 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000 Yeah 859 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Thank you Megan 860 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:53,000 And this was a 21 year old who was in Parque Dueña Casilda 861 00:37:53,000 --> 00:38:02,000 And he tried to steal something from a group of five guys 862 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000 In the park, same park 863 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,000 And they caught him trying to steal 864 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 And just beat him up really bad 865 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:18,000 And reading this article we understand that there was another group of people 866 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,000 And one of the people in this other group phoned the police 867 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Quite worried about how badly the 21 year old was getting beat up 868 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,000 And he's fine, he's in hospital now 869 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000 Oh that doesn't sound fine 870 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000 I mean you know in terms of he's not in 871 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000 He was hospitalized though 872 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Yeah he had to be kept there overnight and it looks like he might 873 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 I don't know if he's going to stay there for more than one night 874 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000 But that was, that's what 875 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Aye aye aye 876 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,000 So the municipal police was called, they came in 877 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Was it the Artenta or was it the 878 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000 It says municipal police 879 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000 The city police 880 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000 And Artenta 881 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Okay everybody 882 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,000 Everybody turned up 883 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000 I mean which sounds like Bilbao right 884 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,000 Anytime anything happens there's like five cars, lights 885 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000 Yep start taping up the scene 886 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000 It's a commotion 887 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,000 I mean you sort of feel safe 888 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000 But as another podcast I was listening to this week said you know 889 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000 They turn up afterwards, they're not really protecting us 890 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:31,000 In this case it's kind of the same you know they didn't stop anything specifically 891 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,000 But they turned up 892 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Well they didn't stop it 893 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 I mean I guess it would have 894 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000 It was a, what was it? 895 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Two cuadrillas right? 896 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000 They said cuadrillas you want to explain what that is 897 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000 Quadrillas very very best concept so 898 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000 A cuadrilla is your group of friends 899 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,000 And usually you have one or two cuadrillas 900 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,000 You might have one from work, one from school 901 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Or 902 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000 One from the whole life right 903 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Yeah 904 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000 That would be your school days 905 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Usually your school days will be your permanent cuadrilla 906 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Lifetime cuadrilla yeah 907 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:11,000 And it's actually quite a fixed group of people like it doesn't really change once 908 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Unless they get like girlfriends or boyfriends and bring those in 909 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,000 They're all allowed in but then when they separate they're kicked out you know 910 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Oh yeah yeah you're out 911 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Yeah your group of friends is your group of friends 912 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,000 And you're accepted as a boyfriend or girlfriend but 913 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000 If you split up 914 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 And the boyfriend and girlfriend usually have their own so they don't really care 915 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Exactly 916 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,000 It's a very strict thing in the sense that there's a few 917 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Quite a number of cases I've heard 918 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000 It sounds so great when I say cases but 919 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,000 There's a number of people that I've heard that were 920 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Right at that age you're supposed to make your cuadrilla 921 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Had a boyfriend 922 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000 So they were part of their boyfriend's cuadrilla 923 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 But then it broke up a couple of years later 924 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 No cuadrilla 925 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000 No friends 926 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Lifelong no cuadrilla 927 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000 It's a problem 928 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Yeah 929 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000 And actually 930 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000 I mean I remember when I moved here I couldn't make any friends because they all had quadrillas 931 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000 Yeah it's quite a closed group 932 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000 People will talk to you but 933 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000 It's not they're not trying to be friends 934 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Yeah they're not 935 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000 You're not going to get invited to all their stuff 936 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000 Like oh but you're not in the group so we can't invite you 937 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000 Yeah 938 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,000 A lot of times in bars you'll be chatting to somebody 939 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000 And then they'll go excuse me I'm with my quadrilla and just turn around 940 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,000 And you're like okay 941 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 I guess we tried 942 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000 And now you're like oh I understand 943 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000 Oh yeah now I understand entirely 944 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,000 It was quite a weird one 945 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000 In the beginning it's like wow how rude 946 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,000 I still get irritated if I'm in a gay bar and the other guy is gay 947 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000 And I'm like well if you're just here with friends 948 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Why even bother coming to a gay bar right 949 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000 Just hang out at home 950 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000 I don't know don't give me false hopes 951 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Well I mean the quadrilla thing is pretty intense 952 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000 But it's also a lovely system 953 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Like they will accept you however you are 954 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,000 It's kind of like a second family you know you can have terrible people in your quadrilla 955 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000 You may not even get along with everybody 956 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Exactly 957 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Yeah like that's what I found too just by being a teacher 958 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000 And talking to students 959 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000 You hear the stories 960 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,000 They're like well you know we don't really get along with this person or that 961 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000 But they're in the quadrilla so 962 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 So they have a group of friends forever 963 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Membership for life 964 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Which is good you know I think a lot of societies 965 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,000 A lot of those people would not have a close knit group of friends 966 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,000 And that's a good sort of social structure to have 967 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,000 Yeah 968 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000 And it's not 969 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,000 I mean I have like you I had a way in through a partner 970 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,000 So I was immediately part of his group of friends 971 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000 But then again we're gay 972 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,000 So gay people have to make new quadrillas usually 973 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000 I see 974 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Understandably 975 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Because either they don't want to come out of the closet so early 976 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,000 Or simply you know for practical reasons we're going to different clubs 977 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,000 So it naturally happens that we form new quadrillas 978 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:21,000 They're not as fixed as the traditional quadrillas as you well understand 979 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000 But then I've got another in with the Basque 980 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:30,000 Since I speak Basque you know it's much easier to make friendships and get to know people 981 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,000 I'm not invited into any quadrillas but you get invited to things quadrillas do 982 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,000 So it's like me and my friends are having lunch you're welcome to come up 983 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,000 So that happens more since I speak Basque 984 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000 Not that I take them up but it's sweet 985 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000 It's sweet I feel welcome 986 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,000 And the way that a quadrilla enters into this story 987 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,000 Well they were all protecting each other clearly 988 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000 Right so it was the person that was coming in to rob them 989 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000 That quadrilla beat the shit out of him 990 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,000 And then another quadrilla that was nearby called the police 991 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,000 Exactly 992 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Yeah 993 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000 And clearly it was 994 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,000 And they were identified as quadrillas right in the new story 995 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 Yes of course 996 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000 Because everyone understands what that means 997 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000 I love that 998 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000 And it was as you were 999 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000 It's just part of the vernacular you know 1000 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000 And everyone understands what that means 1001 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000 It is the quadrilla 1002 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,000 And as you were pointing out it was pretty bad beating up 1003 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Because not only was the guy taken to hospital 1004 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,000 Two of the five were taken into custody 1005 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000 So they are still looking for the other three 1006 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000 Oh three of them took off 1007 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000 Oh no they split up the quadrillas 1008 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,000 So two were just happened to be right 1009 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000 They were the ones that the cops could grab 1010 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,000 And the other three took off 1011 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,000 They didn't describe the exact way they had two and not five 1012 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000 But 1013 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000 That's probably what happened 1014 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,000 But we can tell it was pretty big overreaction let's say 1015 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,000 Yeah 1016 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000 I mean initially I was happy you got beaten up 1017 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000 But you don't need to get sent to hospital 1018 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,000 No 1019 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,000 Clearly 1020 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000 And you don't need to get beaten up 1021 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000 You just kind of need to be like 1022 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000 You know get the hell out of here 1023 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000 I mean 1024 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000 The thing is 1025 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000 Extreme violence 1026 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000 No of course 1027 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,000 Violence 1028 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000 I mean I wouldn't do that either 1029 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000 I mean I'm not going to punch anybody you know 1030 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000 It's not a thing I do 1031 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000 So I wouldn't do that 1032 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000 But it's also understandable 1033 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,000 Because I think there's more 1034 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,000 And I think it's something happening in Europe more and more everywhere 1035 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,000 Which people are getting more and more irritated with minor crimes 1036 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000 Not being dealt with because they're not dealt with 1037 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000 It's just not really considered a crime 1038 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Yeah 1039 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,000 And people are just hanging out and their mobiles are getting stolen 1040 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,000 So you know it's coming from a social frustration 1041 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,000 Of course it's too much right 1042 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,000 But we were talking about what is justifiable and what's not justifiable right? 1043 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Yeah 1044 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000 Because you have to defend yourself 1045 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,000 And actually 1046 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,000 If you're attacked then yeah you should defend yourself 1047 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,000 Because there's a line in your insurance 1048 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,000 When you get insurance there's a line that says if you don't fight back to get your mobile 1049 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,000 You just let it be taken and you're not covered 1050 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:38,000 So there's a line and it says you have to try and get your mobile back 1051 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000 With reasonable force 1052 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,000 Oh that's true like yeah it has to have been done with violence 1053 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000 It had to have been taken from you with violence 1054 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,000 If they just slip it out your pocket 1055 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000 Without you knowing 1056 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,000 And you don't do anything that's not covered by your insurance 1057 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000 So you know we're obliged to do something 1058 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,000 Yeah that is weird 1059 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,000 So there's a contradiction there right? 1060 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,000 I mean what is the country like the guy if the guy is nice to me 1061 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,000 Like the contradiction is like legally you shouldn't do any violence right? 1062 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000 I don't know if we're not supposed to do any 1063 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,000 I wouldn't think that they would say you know if your phone gets stolen attack 1064 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,000 No 1065 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,000 So I think legally you're kind of involved in a assault 1066 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,000 You know if you are a part of a physical altercation with somebody right? 1067 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000 So let's say you're of two parties 1068 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,000 There's two parties having a physical altercation 1069 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000 So that in itself is illegal right? 1070 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,000 But then an insurance company will be like 1071 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,000 Only if you are involved in a physical altercation with somebody 1072 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,000 Will we cover the loss of your phone? 1073 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,000 I mean they don't say physical altercation 1074 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000 Well I'm sure I'm just using the words like that 1075 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000 Yeah that's the thing you know and I'm not a lawyer 1076 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,000 And it would be an interesting conversation 1077 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000 I am an alert not a lawyer 1078 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,000 I'd be curious to know what is expected 1079 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,000 And you know because clearly you know I was going to say 1080 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000 Let's start with something easy like a push 1081 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,000 Right that's clearly I'm trying him not to get my phone 1082 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000 That's a clear message 1083 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,000 I have push people 1084 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Me too me too 1085 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000 I mean a drop push is not a great push 1086 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,000 I actually kicked somebody 1087 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,000 Look at you 1088 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,000 Well because I could tell he was going into my bag behind me 1089 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,000 That's a mini crime task 1090 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000 And he was right behind me and I kicked him 1091 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Okay and did it work? 1092 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Yeah and I turned around and I kicked him and I turned around 1093 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000 And I started yelling at him 1094 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000 Yelling also works 1095 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000 Yeah indeed 1096 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000 Well you would have been covered by your insurance I think 1097 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Yeah do you think so? 1098 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,000 I would have said so 1099 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000 I mean kicking is pretty clearly fighting back for your phone 1100 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,000 But he didn't kick me 1101 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:54,000 Like my partner Bobby he had his phone stolen once 1102 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,000 And they did actually like throw him to the ground 1103 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000 Him and his friend to the ground 1104 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000 Grabbed their phones 1105 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,000 Right 1106 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,000 And because they had been thrown to the ground and kind of you know 1107 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000 It was taken with violence 1108 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000 They were clearly covered 1109 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,000 Right right right 1110 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,000 Actually his friend who's when they picked up his friend's phone 1111 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,000 Because it was like an old model like they were like this was on me out of the house 1112 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000 They just gave it back 1113 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000 Hilarious 1114 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,000 See that's the kind of thing that we're getting tired 1115 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,000 So then it was covered 1116 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,000 Exactly 1117 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,000 But like a pickpocket would never be covered 1118 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,000 So you're expected to do something to the pickpocket like kick him? 1119 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000 I guess 1120 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000 But I was starting I was starting 1121 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000 He didn't get anything from me 1122 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,000 I caught him throwing into my purse 1123 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,000 You're saying like a kick shouldn't be legal right? 1124 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000 Right like I shouldn't be allowed to 1125 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Yeah 1126 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000 But he could probably press charges against me for the kick 1127 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Let's say yes it sounds correct to me 1128 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,000 But then if he's not violent towards you what does the law say? 1129 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000 Just let them take the mobile you know what I mean? 1130 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000 Exactly 1131 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,000 That's the consequence 1132 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,000 Yeah that's the thing 1133 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000 Which I mean if 1134 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,000 The worst thing is not only that 1135 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Because you think the law would be like don't do anything 1136 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,000 Yeah 1137 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,000 It's only a phone 1138 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,000 But then I just lose the mobile 1139 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,000 Don't escalate 1140 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,000 Every time right? 1141 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,000 Exactly 1142 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000 Because the insurance never gonna cover me 1143 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,000 Yeah exactly 1144 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,000 So 1145 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000 And the cops are never gonna get it back 1146 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,000 Not in mobile 1147 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000 You can go file a report but 1148 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000 I know 1149 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,000 What's gonna happen? 1150 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,000 So that's what's irritating that's why they end up I think going overboard 1151 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,000 And beating this guy up way too much 1152 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000 No yeah for sure they went overboard 1153 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,000 But 1154 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,000 If they really pull for it he's in the hospital 1155 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,000 He's in the hospital yeah 1156 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,000 That's too much 1157 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:50,000 And you know it was enough to get all of them sent to jail for at least overnight until they're 1158 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,000 Yeah they'll probably be charged with like assault or whatever 1159 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000 Pretty dodgy 1160 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,000 And now their records are tainted 1161 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,000 They have criminal records now 1162 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,000 They do I guess 1163 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,000 And I don't know exactly what those consequences are 1164 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,000 Because they're not minors right? 1165 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,000 No 1166 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,000 No they're not arrested 1167 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,000 Well they're 19 1168 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,000 Yeah so they're not minors 1169 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000 Which I guess is considered 1170 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000 So they'll have a record now 1171 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,000 Poor decision making 1172 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,000 It's a hard one 1173 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,000 It's a hard one 1174 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,000 Well that was the story about Parque de la Casilda 1175 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,000 Which is 1176 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,000 Next to the museum 1177 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,000 Also 1178 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,000 The duck park 1179 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,000 I guess how they're known 1180 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,000 Parque de los Patos 1181 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000 There's also some 1182 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,000 What is it 1183 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,000 Pato real 1184 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,000 Pavo real 1185 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,000 Peacock 1186 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000 There's a couple of peacocks there too 1187 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,000 They're not loose though 1188 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000 They're in the cage around the pond right? 1189 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000 They're not in a cage 1190 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,000 Are they not? 1191 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000 No they're walking around 1192 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,000 But they're not 1193 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,000 Yeah I guess there's a fence around the area where they are 1194 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000 But I'm like how do they not get out? 1195 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,000 I don't know 1196 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,000 They can't fly? 1197 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,000 They can fly a little bit but they usually cut their wings so that they can't fly 1198 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,000 You just cut the feathers 1199 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,000 Poverty 1200 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,000 Every so often and they can't fly 1201 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,000 They just have to live at that park 1202 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,000 They usually just fly up into a tree to sleep 1203 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000 That's the only reason they fly 1204 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,000 Oh 1205 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,000 To get into a tree to sleep 1206 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000 But they can't go up to the tree to sleep 1207 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:27,000 But they will have a little thing to perch on in their little house I would assume 1208 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:33,000 Because it's like a chicken they won't really be happy unless they've got a place to coop on 1209 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,000 To hold on to a little branch 1210 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,000 So if you're nice to your chickens they should have that 1211 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,000 Noted 1212 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,000 And if you have peacocks please also 1213 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,000 Give them a spot to sleep 1214 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,000 There's quite a lot of peacocks in Brazil 1215 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000 Quite common things 1216 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,000 They're so noisy though 1217 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,000 Peacocks 1218 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,000 Yeah 1219 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,000 I don't know what they sound like 1220 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,000 They go 1221 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,000 In a different tone 1222 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000 But they're very loud 1223 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000 Very loud 1224 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,000 I think that's kind of where the P comes from the peacock it goes 1225 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,000 Peacock 1226 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:15,000 Oh man I'm gonna go down to the park and see if I can hear them yelling 1227 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,000 And I'm gonna search I'm gonna see if they have a perching spot 1228 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,000 Now I have a 1229 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,000 Their wellbeing 1230 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,000 Yeah I have a plan now next time I go to that park 1231 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,000 Sounds fun 1232 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000 Beautiful park we recommend everybody visits 1233 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,000 It's a gorgeous sort of 1909ish was when it was 1234 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000 Oh I did not know that 1235 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000 Look at you, facts 1236 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000 Yeah you know the asylum I think 1237 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000 I used to be 1238 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,000 People said to me it was an asylum but I think it's basically empty that big house in front of the park 1239 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Just over 1240 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000 An asylum you think they would put that there? 1241 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,000 I mean they call it a asilo and castilian whatever that is I mean it could be 1242 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000 For anybody 1243 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,000 Okay like refuge 1244 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,000 Mm-hmm but that so that was the 1245 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,000 The owner of that house is who paid for the park 1246 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,000 And then they left the house to the city as well which is why it became some institution 1247 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000 So they were very nice people 1248 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,000 Madame Casilda 1249 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000 Well don't ya 1250 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000 That was nice of her 1251 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Yes very nice thank you ma'am thank you 1252 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000 We all thank you 1253 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Beautiful park 1254 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000 Okay we ready for the next one 1255 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000 We're ready hold on to your chapella 1256 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,000 Hold on this one's a doozy no it's not 1257 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000 This one's just silly 1258 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:41,000 So this one was a I believe we talked about this actually a few weeks ago the three of us 1259 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Megan and I and it was 1260 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:52,000 The Archangel has identified and is investigating a 28 year old man who climbed onto the outside rear of a bus in Pasaya 1261 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000 Yeah 1262 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,000 28 year old 1263 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:02,000 So he was the way that it's where a 28 year old man was traveling perched on the bodywork of a bus 1264 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000 I mean this is a translation 1265 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000 A direct translation 1266 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:11,000 So I don't I can't remember what the real word was that he is but it was circulating through town 1267 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:16,000 And of course it was causing a serious risk to his life in the life of other road users 1268 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000 True 1269 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000 More to his but still yeah 1270 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,000 Well yeah and if he well he could have fallen off and someone's swerving not to hit him 1271 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000 It's definitely not 1272 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:35,000 Another accident so yeah so according to their chance of the agents learned from the media and social networks that a young man had 1273 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,000 Climbed onto the back of the bus that was running along the old and I the national interstate 1274 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000 Mm-hmm 1275 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:48,000 At the exit of Pasay Ancho in the direction of 1276 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,000 Cappuccinos neighborhood of a 1277 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000 Herentiera 1278 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000 Let's see 1279 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,000 Herentiera 1280 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:05,000 That's also a surname so the video went viral and because of the video of him riding on the back of the bus 1281 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:12,000 That's how he got caught. Well. Yeah, just don't post your many crimes on social media people 1282 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,000 That's a lesson 1283 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,800 Well it could have been not that he posted it true it could have been like people saw him and 1284 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:24,660 Started filming and then posted on their own true, and then people saw it and said oh, I know that's so-and-so 1285 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:31,580 Yeah, I mean we do have facial recognition software these days. I assume police have access to that 1286 00:56:31,580 --> 00:56:38,080 Yeah, but for some well, maybe maybe you know just to try and yeah, so Paseo is near San Sebastian 1287 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,360 Okay, that side of town. Yeah 1288 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,960 Mm-hmm. Well, it's not it's not our town. It's another town. I was using it as a loose expression 1289 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,760 Because yeah, that is the joke that San Sebastian is a neighborhood of Bilbao I 1290 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,620 Heard I wasn't going that far, but yeah 1291 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:02,680 Have we mentioned in this podcast that we've probably come up various times that Bilbao 1292 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,480 The joke about people in Bilbao think Bilbao is so important in the center of the world that 1293 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,440 You are asked do you have the world map of Bilbao? 1294 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:17,440 And the world we did talk about this we did yeah, so that's part of that attitude 1295 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,080 Yeah, is well like everything around us is just a neighborhood 1296 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,080 Paris neighborhood of Bilbao Berlin neighborhood 1297 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,560 Naughty neighborhoods Moscow 1298 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,760 So that's it they caught him 1299 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:43,920 That's that story like do we know what he got identified him through the social media and the media so it'll be so the images 1300 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,760 Of him gone viral. Hmm. Hope I'm caught hopefully just uh, I don't know if he was like joyriding 1301 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,480 They haven't said anything like they're investigating it 1302 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,640 So they didn't say whether he was joyriding or he just couldn't afford the bus ticket 1303 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,560 I mean we know why that's a terrible excuse right now, right? Oh true. Yeah 1304 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,120 The prices yeah 1305 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,320 Only till December though. Is it? Oh, yeah, it's gonna be quite a shock when I have to start paying full price 1306 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:18,040 Okay, I didn't know that I'm gonna be quite a shock. I feel like because I have to take the metro now every day. Mm-hmm 1307 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,560 Mm-hmm. Ouch. Yeah, I'm gonna be see how much that costs 1308 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,580 They usually if you get that monthly pass, so it's usually better 1309 00:58:27,580 --> 00:58:34,920 I know I've been told of course that I should look into getting that pass with my photo on the body. I 1310 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:41,320 Know it was time for that Douglas. Nobody has time. We got time for that. Nobody got time for that 1311 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:57,320 It's just another thing to do a lot to do who's got time to go into the bus just grab it go just get to work that way 1312 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,480 But the thing about the Metro is like both sides have the conductor 1313 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:09,740 Window they do right so you be looking at the conduct. Well, I love you're riding on the front you're riding on the back 1314 00:59:09,740 --> 00:59:14,640 There's usually nobody back there. That'll be my part, but I imagine there'd be a camera on you 1315 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,840 So we would be hanging on to the front of the metro with the camera right in your face 1316 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,180 This isn't doesn't line three have no drivers. Oh, I don't know 1317 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,920 Supposed to be automatic, but I don't know if they did it in the end 1318 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,020 I've gotten that Metro on a few times. I've been on it too and 1319 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,220 Yeah, but I've never like look into the drivers 1320 00:59:37,220 --> 00:59:41,420 But we'll ask we'll look into it everybody. We'll find out if it actually is automated 1321 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,840 That sounds like a plan. Okay homework. We have more homework. Jesus 1322 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:54,440 It's nice that we discovered what happened with the random. Yeah the guy on the back of the bus small infraction 1323 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,720 Let's call it. I mean, I hope it's just some money there 1324 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:02,620 Oh, I mean, I imagine you could come up with all kinds of heavy charges for that 1325 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,960 Hmm that would get you into like a world of hell 1326 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,760 Yeah, go hell that was an interesting one about the park at Dona Casillo one 1327 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,720 they were the two guys that were in jail they were charged with 1328 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:21,280 Beating up the guy and also not providing help to him when he needed help. Oh 1329 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:28,680 See extra charges. So they definitely I mean, it's kind of obvious that would happen 1330 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,600 I would say but you know two charges for one. Mm-hmm 1331 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:38,320 You know, it would be in random big punch. Okay. Now you're hurt. Now. It's called the ambulance 1332 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,120 Oh, if legally we're supposed to can you see like 19 year olds going, you know legally 1333 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:56,280 We don't want to get in trouble by not assisting this poor man that needs help let's get charged for one thing not to guys 1334 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,280 Come on 1335 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,280 Yeah, no, they didn't even go that far 1336 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:04,680 But if there were a quadrilla to do that, it would be in a vast country that wouldn't it it would 1337 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,160 It would somebody there would be one voice of reason 1338 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:13,640 It'd be the one that's always like the the killjoy in the group like you guys we shouldn't be doing this 1339 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:21,280 Come on man lighten up worked out and yes, I mean well he's in the hospital 1340 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,120 Let's let's be nice nice citizens people 1341 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,160 After we beat somebody out call an ambulance 1342 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,680 That's the lesson from today 1343 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,400 With some good crimes, I think I beat people up 1344 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:44,440 Hmm used to be part of their assistance. Yeah big selection now all over the world. Yeah, I have one more 1345 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:51,640 You do. Maybe we should break true. I actually have one more. So oh, we both have one more. Okay, let's break boom boom boom 1346 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,640 See you in a minute 1347 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,640 Okay, and we're back we're back. So now my story 1348 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,640 This is not recent right this is not as a historical one 1349 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:08,640 1996 was the first story I found and then the backup was 1994 1350 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,640 Quite an interesting story to to kind of come upon 1351 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,640 And then I found this story in the middle of the year 1352 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:23,640 And then the backup was 1994 quite an interesting story to to kind of come upon 1353 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,640 So at first we get 1354 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:33,640 The beginning the way we found this story was quite fun because I was looking for or off one I checked where I was 1355 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:38,640 Which is one of our previous surnames. Mm-hmm. And then a town it's 1356 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:50,640 So I was checking where the town was because I know it's you know, I should be doing more from my best geography. Well, we went to sorry we went on a hike to Ibarra 1357 01:02:51,640 --> 01:03:00,640 Yeah last Saturday and went past a Roscoe and because I had been researching this story. I was like, oh, there's a Roscoe 1358 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:09,640 Oh, so we're near there and then I just looking at the map the next city north was Benguechea, which I know as a surname as well 1359 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,640 Okay, so I wrote crimes Benguechea 1360 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,640 Good research method. Good 1361 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:24,640 Um, I guess I can come out of the woodworks and also say it was a person I didn't like the mr 1362 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:32,640 Benguechea that I last knew an ex flatmates. So oh, so you knew actually knew so I'm excited to talk about crimes of this family 1363 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,640 Joking I'm joking. So 1364 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:47,640 The first news that I came across was him being released from your old flatmate. Not him. This is somebody else 1365 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:55,640 No, no, he was just hired to get money for bills. That's that's the biggest crime he committed. Okay, that is a crime 1366 01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:01,640 It's a mini crime. Pay your bills people pay your bills. It's a mini crime. Don't expect someone to pay your way 1367 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:08,640 No, no, it just makes Douglas angry. That's the rule. So Javier Benguechea was 1368 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:18,640 Condemned to three years in Munich. Oh for with two of his associates Julio Oroz another 1369 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:24,640 Basque man and a Colombian Justiniano Torres. They were all 1370 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:32,640 Condemned to three years in jail in Germany for supposedly well not supposedly they were smuggling 1371 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,640 Convicted for convicted. Sorry. I don't know the difference. What did I say? 1372 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:42,640 Well, you were saying supposedly sorry at this point it's been they've been convicted and sent to prison 1373 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,640 Well, you'll understand to supposedly soon 1374 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:51,640 There's a twist. Yeah, it's fun. It's interesting. Okay, so they were smuggling out 1375 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:58,640 363 grams of plutonium out of Moscow, Russia 1376 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,640 Oh dear. This is about 1994. We're talking. Okay 1377 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:08,640 And so we came across this guy being released from jail 1378 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:15,640 And it was weird just because after serving his three years you're apparently as it worked in Germany 1379 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,640 Two years for good behavior 1380 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:27,640 Well in the article itself, it actually specifies that Germany the law in Germany specifies that if you are not a German national 1381 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,640 After half of your term, they're allowed to kick you back to your country. Oh, okay 1382 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,640 Which I think is very fair. Very fair 1383 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:43,640 Home, however, cause problems somewhere else. Mm-hmm. So we looked up into what plutonium did and 1384 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,640 How it's used and our at least my first 1385 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:54,640 Inkling was kind of like why would they want this right? Surely it's to make some kind of bomb 1386 01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:01,640 And then we started looking into it and it's like used it just produces a bit of heat and it's usually used for satellites 1387 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:07,640 Oh, that's the main use of plutonium these days, I guess. Okay, and so 1388 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,640 Apparently, this was a setup by the German spy agency 1389 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,640 What it yeah, they it turns out 1390 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,640 I mean just come out with the end of the story first and then we go to the end of the story 1391 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,640 I mean just come out with the end of the story first and then we can talk about some a couple more details 1392 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,640 But okay, so it turned out that the German state 1393 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:38,640 Was trying to prove that there was a black market for plutonium when actually it was just them setting up 1394 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,640 They they found those people who did contraband the the two 1395 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:50,640 The two best guys and the Colombian guy. Uh-huh. And they were like, oh, you know with help of the 1396 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:57,640 Spanish spy agency who you know, I guess knew they were contraband people. Uh-huh 1397 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,640 Smuggler. Sorry. That's the word we're looking for 1398 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:08,640 They asked them, you know indirectly to move this plutonium from Moscow 1399 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,640 So they were like the agents were asking them. Hey, can you guys do this little job for us? Yeah, it was all 1400 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,640 Also, you know, it was all 1401 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:17,640 By 1402 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:24,320 By so trap it's called entrapment. It was entirely entrapment. I think maybe not we believe it someone like that 1403 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,640 I mean, yeah goodness knows what Germany calls it 1404 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:33,240 Yeah, cuz if you're the one I think it is entrapment when you when you're the one setting up the crime if it's the law 1405 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,640 You know the the law agency or whatever 1406 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:41,600 Mm-hmm, that's running the crime. Yeah, it can be considered entrapment 1407 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:47,240 yeah, it's like I understand that if you're a drug seller and a 1408 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:56,300 Like a policeman buys drug from you, right? That's you're the one selling the policeman the drugs, right? 1409 01:07:56,300 --> 01:07:58,120 but if it's the 1410 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,800 Policeman that's going hey, I've got these drugs. I want to 1411 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,640 sell 1412 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,720 And the guy was just like, all right 1413 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,600 Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, they clearly did this naughty thing 1414 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:17,640 Wow, you know why right why would you want to create the idea that there's a black market of plutonium 1415 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,240 Well, this case came out right before an election 1416 01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:24,440 So there were 1417 01:08:24,440 --> 01:08:30,720 Great policemen working for the safety of your people and it turns out there was no safety problem 1418 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,600 Like plutonium is used for satellites and not for dirty bombs 1419 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:40,640 And there's no demand for the my the police were working in favor of some political party 1420 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:46,720 They wanted to show that the security services were taking care of doing the jobs 1421 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:51,200 They're supposed to do reelect your your people because we're taking care of you. Oh 1422 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,480 Okay, but there was no such market there was no market for plutonium 1423 01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:59,720 Nobody was asking 1424 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,200 Nobody was asking for it 1425 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,720 Well when we were tough we were you always told me you were gonna tell me a story about plutonium 1426 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,960 The only reference I have is from back to the future 1427 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,520 It was a bit of a time-traveling story 1428 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,280 1994 does that count 84? No, when did back to the future come out? I don't know 1429 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,960 84 I think 1430 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,680 Somebody's on it somebody's on it. Yeah worry 1431 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:36,680 but but so when they caught these guys and interviewed them they were like they had no clue what plutonium was they really didn't know what it was for and 1432 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,000 You know, they clearly had just been set up by these two agencies 1433 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,600 hmm 1434 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,600 85 it was 85 1435 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:53,240 85 so yeah, I guess it was so the height of the Cold War so plutonium at the time was like for 1436 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,720 Sounded scary right for like nuclear bombs and it was used in 1437 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,480 But not really though. That's the thing a parent like 1438 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,800 Like certain ones it depends which one it was it was a plutonium 1439 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,280 3 9 8 or something that was for satellites and then 92 was for 1440 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,360 for helping 1441 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:19,720 Bombs explode a bit better something like that and they don't specify here which kind of plutonium it was but 1442 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,360 apparently this one 1443 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,960 This one wasn't even and there were no Russians involved 1444 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,840 They just sold the merch merchandise. I guess to the Russians 1445 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,600 to 1446 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,600 The con to the smugglers 1447 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:41,160 Oh, so the okay. Yeah, the agents sold it to the smugglers to then do what with that's the thing. There was no market for it 1448 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:48,440 Oh, but since they were caught obviously, so they just were caught with the merchandise that the agents had given them 1449 01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:55,240 Basically, well, they I think they'd made them go to Russia. They kind of wrote right the security agencies had 1450 01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:03,720 Here's the stuff bring it to this place in Russia. You're there. There's they were pretending to be a client who wanted plutonium 1451 01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:05,960 Okay 1452 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,960 But there was nobody who wanted plutonium. Oh, so they sent them to Russia 1453 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:16,040 Get the plutonium and bring it back and they landed in Germany. They caught them caught them with surprise surprise 1454 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,080 Surprise they didn't know what this was for 1455 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,880 We just here to bring it they probably thought it was for back in the back to the future 1456 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,520 because that's 1457 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:34,440 What we all knew plutonium was for exactly. That's the only way I know anything about anything is filmed 1458 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,000 We never built that car 1459 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,680 No, so it was just the setup for an election 1460 01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:42,680 Wow 1461 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,680 poor bass guys 1462 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,820 See, yeah, they're just some normal smugglers 1463 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,680 Well, he served a year and a half and that doesn't sound terrible sent him home 1464 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,080 So now he's like living his best life in uh, what was the name of the town? 1465 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:03,320 Or no, he probably wasn't from that town. No, it says the surname just uh, mr 1466 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,720 Ben gocha javier doesn't say where he's from 1467 01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:10,280 It didn't it didn't it just said they were too. Um 1468 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:15,080 Um to spanish maybe we can get him on the podcast an interview 1469 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,120 Maybe definitely cool down. I think if you're out there 1470 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:27,000 Give us a ring. Yeah, I assume he's sent us an email. He's retired. So if you're here to podcast you want to become famous 1471 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,760 Talk about the worst day of your life 1472 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:37,000 Maybe it wasn't maybe he has some other crime times to tell us. Yeah, maybe you could write a book about it 1473 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,600 Mm how he was set up by the german government. Yeah 1474 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,680 Sounds like a crazy story. So that was that one. Well funny funny, you know 1475 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,960 I mean at least there was nobody wanting to explode a nuclear bomb, right? 1476 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,840 That's definitely good news for sure for sure 1477 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,240 Just some some russians wanting some extra money 1478 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:03,240 Yeah, and they had some extra plutonium on hand to send over to europe indeed 1479 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,080 It's um, there you go. Yeah, that was that story 1480 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,880 Good good 1481 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,560 Okay, so 1482 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:18,680 I'll tell my last story which I think you'll get a kick out of I didn't tell you anything about this. So excited 1483 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,560 So in vitoria gastéis, which was what where our last story was based? 1484 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,180 A judge who has vetoed the name hycea 1485 01:13:31,180 --> 01:13:33,180 hycea hycea 1486 01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:41,660 Asea a seah to a girl denied another baby to be called 1487 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,900 Yardy 1488 01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:50,780 Yardy, which means moon in uskara. Yep. Okay 1489 01:13:51,660 --> 01:13:56,860 So alleging that it was so uh, the judge prevented some parents from giving the name yardy 1490 01:13:56,860 --> 01:14:02,300 Yardy moon in basque to their newborn son alleging that it was a girl's name 1491 01:14:03,260 --> 01:14:06,860 Despite the fact that basque nouns do not usually have a gender. Yeah 1492 01:14:07,580 --> 01:14:11,420 And uh that it accepts names as neutrals. Yeah, right 1493 01:14:12,380 --> 01:14:15,740 So the judge imposed the name of john 1494 01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:17,500 No way 1495 01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:19,500 That's that's a that's 1496 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:25,180 Violation of many right crazy. What is this from? This is from oh no 1497 01:14:25,180 --> 01:14:30,860 Sorry, this is a bad question because I did not oh here it is. Boom. I found it. Uh, this is from 1498 01:14:31,820 --> 01:14:33,020 November 3rd 1499 01:14:33,020 --> 01:14:38,700 Am I no no, uh, uh, no. Yeah, november 3rd. Remember this year 1500 01:14:39,580 --> 01:14:41,740 That's like yesterday. Yeah. Wow 1501 01:14:42,620 --> 01:14:48,620 So the family of course appealed to the supreme court. Absolutely waiting for a resolution to that 1502 01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:53,580 I hope they come on. So the same judge has refused to register a newborn with the name hycea 1503 01:14:53,580 --> 01:14:59,100 Uh, I say which means seed in basque. Oh, that's a sea. Okay, a sea. Sorry 1504 01:15:00,060 --> 01:15:01,660 considering it 1505 01:15:01,660 --> 01:15:03,580 pejorative 1506 01:15:03,580 --> 01:15:08,060 And has imposed another phonetically and semantically very similar sea 1507 01:15:08,860 --> 01:15:11,420 Which does not correspond to the one chosen by its parent 1508 01:15:12,140 --> 01:15:15,820 Very odd. Isn't that weird that a judge would have the right to? 1509 01:15:17,180 --> 01:15:19,180 well, I mean 1510 01:15:19,180 --> 01:15:21,180 I I know that 1511 01:15:21,180 --> 01:15:23,740 there are there's a history here of 1512 01:15:24,380 --> 01:15:26,380 Imposing the names of children 1513 01:15:26,940 --> 01:15:33,260 Because mostly because of the dictatorship. Yeah and imposing anything basque was illegal. Yeah 1514 01:15:34,780 --> 01:15:36,780 So, um 1515 01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:41,500 Yeah, so there's a history of that but that's crazy that today that that would be happening, right? 1516 01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:46,540 It is and especially especially because they're non-gendered right? Yeah, like there's no gender to 1517 01:15:46,540 --> 01:15:50,940 To names and names and not only that I can't think of any names right now 1518 01:15:50,940 --> 01:15:55,100 but I know there are a couple of names that both girls and boys use like 1519 01:15:56,140 --> 01:16:00,060 You know which one I can't that's the thing. I can't think of one right now, but um 1520 01:16:01,660 --> 01:16:04,700 You know, I know there are a couple like I've heard of 1521 01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:11,580 I just remember somebody saying oh this one's a boy. That one's a girl. I'm like, okay same name. Cool 1522 01:16:11,580 --> 01:16:16,380 Same name cool. Okay. I mean well I can keep reading about this 1523 01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:22,060 I'm I have to burn another of my childhood stories though, you know, my name's from a list. Oh, is it? 1524 01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:24,060 Yeah, I was born in a dictatorship 1525 01:16:24,460 --> 01:16:25,660 Oh, okay 1526 01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:30,620 Tell my name was one of the few names that my mom recognized in English and she was like, okay 1527 01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:36,220 It's gonna be douglas. Oh, she had a list that she had to choose your name from approved names. Yeah, she couldn't 1528 01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:42,460 You're during the dictatorship the dictator at the time. I don't actually know there's plenty in Brazil to choose from 1529 01:16:44,140 --> 01:16:46,140 But one of them one of them 1530 01:16:46,700 --> 01:16:49,260 Um, the thing is there was also a list here 1531 01:16:49,260 --> 01:16:54,220 So there was just a list that you could choose from it wasn't like you could choose any name, right? 1532 01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:59,980 And I know that that's why everyone is joseph maria maria joseph 1533 01:17:00,060 --> 01:17:00,700 Yeah 1534 01:17:00,700 --> 01:17:00,940 Yeah 1535 01:17:00,940 --> 01:17:06,380 And at some point it was obligatory to include maria and a girl's name as a second name 1536 01:17:07,580 --> 01:17:10,860 So, I mean anyway, it's a it's a restrictive system 1537 01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:13,500 but like definitely in 1538 01:17:14,140 --> 01:17:18,380 Latin america i've in my own family tree. I have seen some very 1539 01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:22,460 Intense names that they've chosen after you can choose anything 1540 01:17:22,940 --> 01:17:29,420 Oh, and I know there's a lot of like, you know, there have been cases of parents wanting to call their child hitler 1541 01:17:29,420 --> 01:17:35,580 And that's that has been that has been stopped by judges and I think that's no I have heard that too. Yeah, like 1542 01:17:36,220 --> 01:17:37,740 things like that 1543 01:17:37,740 --> 01:17:44,460 Or just something. Yeah, and this tastes fun. So I I I think there is a place you can't do that 1544 01:17:45,260 --> 01:17:47,260 yeah, I think there's a place for 1545 01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:49,980 for a judge to to to comment on but 1546 01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:56,700 But the fact that it's right like because it's considered a girl's name. Yeah, and it's a boy 1547 01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:04,460 Boy child, you know like yeah, I want to be called mariel being called maria. Yeah, like and even that there are guys called maria 1548 01:18:05,020 --> 01:18:05,980 Yeah 1549 01:18:05,980 --> 01:18:12,860 Exactly. You would have thought jose jose mar you know jose maria. Yeah, it's a very common name. Yeah 1550 01:18:13,820 --> 01:18:14,860 weird 1551 01:18:14,860 --> 01:18:17,100 Okay, so i'm gonna shall I read the rest of this? 1552 01:18:17,820 --> 01:18:22,060 Go on. Okay. I mean i'm already shocked. I think there's no more you can do but 1553 01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:28,860 It must be remembered that nouns and adjectives do not usually have grammatical gender in basque as they do in spanish or french 1554 01:18:29,260 --> 01:18:31,500 for this reason it's common for names such as 1555 01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:38,460 Ice i say, yeah wind. Yeah, ibar plain 1556 01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:41,820 Suzy 1557 01:18:41,820 --> 01:18:44,540 root or yeah, sedu or sedu 1558 01:18:45,180 --> 01:18:49,420 Sky for example can be used interchangeably in men and women. There we go 1559 01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:52,780 Yeah, gender distinction is made in some isolated words 1560 01:18:53,100 --> 01:19:00,620 Although they are different words and not gender variants of the word for example in pairs such as cousin cousin god goddess prince princess 1561 01:19:02,140 --> 01:19:04,940 So then they gave all the best do you want to read those out for? 1562 01:19:06,140 --> 01:19:09,920 For cousin cousin. I need bigger bigger letters 1563 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:16,240 I'm a 42 baby. Okay 1564 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,760 So cousin cousin 1565 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,000 We have lengusu lengusinha 1566 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,880 And then we have god goddess yanko and yank 1567 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:30,960 Yankosa 1568 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,880 And prince princess princess princessa, okay 1569 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:40,800 So then in 2019 the academy of the basque language introduced a neutral names in its 1570 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:47,120 Gatsitier for the first time valid for boys and girls the list presents 500 1571 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:49,840 Episynni 1572 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:55,520 Given names. I don't know what that word means episynni. Episynni. I'm not sure what that means either 1573 01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:58,480 Must be a first name maybe 1574 01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:02,480 Perhaps yeah 1575 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,480 Episynni 1576 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:09,440 I'm gonna have you read all these basque names though because i'm not even gonna try people are gonna be yelling at their oh 1577 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:16,480 Episynni is a lack of gender distinction often reducing the emphasis on the masculine to allow the feminine 1578 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,040 Okay, it includes androgyny 1579 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,320 Having both male and female names. Okay 1580 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,280 So the list presents 1581 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,320 500 episynni given names 1582 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:35,760 Mm-hmm. That's quite a lot. That's cool. Here they are. You want to read them? Yeah, some of them are alai 1583 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,720 Alonja mayur 1584 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:45,280 Amets that's a nice one. It just means I have a student named amets, but it's with the set z instead of a s 1585 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,320 All right 1586 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:54,240 S. All right. I have a student name. All right 1587 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,360 That's a that's a funny one because it means close so a close person that's cute 1588 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:13,360 Okay 1589 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:34,080 Yeah, and also diminutive names such as agustin agustin aritsu asun vichori engraci franchoa inacio itzazo isabel jesús 1590 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:45,600 Yos yospe yuancho kachalin manu nacho checho and shabi 1591 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:51,600 That was a good one. Good list of cute names. Very very very cute names 1592 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,440 Okay, so then the uskal what's the name of this in this this 1593 01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:04,800 Which is the the it's the equivalent like we don't have it in english, but what they have in french is 1594 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,000 the 1595 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:14,480 Academia francesa de la langue, which is the academy responsible for the rules of french language. Okay, so the there's the spanish one, too 1596 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,800 Exactly. Yeah 1597 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,480 The real academia de la lengua española. Yeah 1598 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,800 So that's the equivalent it was called sandia is the best equivalent the 1599 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:29,200 Equivalent it was called sandia is the best equivalent that that defines how 1600 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,000 The rules should be in basque. Okay 1601 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:38,720 So this they have offered advice to acai's family so that they can register her to her daughter under that name 1602 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:43,200 In this sense, he is assured that he sees no impediment to using the name 1603 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,280 asia 1604 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:53,120 Asia like cn like seed. Yeah from the linguistic point of view as occurs with other names derived from a common noun 1605 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,120 Yeah, and they named these 1606 01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:57,440 but also 1607 01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,600 Come from a common noun 1608 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:08,080 Ameth ameth, yeah ameth which is dream isiah which is wind lissar. I'm not sure 1609 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,960 naya naya 1610 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,040 sedu or 1611 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,120 su 1612 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,000 Which is just tree I love that one 1613 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,520 Hi tree, how you doing tree? 1614 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,520 So cute 1615 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:33,520 Sorry, I'm I'm clearly biased I love it's cute best names tree. They're so cute. Okay. So thus through a note 1616 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,000 uskala 1617 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,000 Cn, yeah, it's called sandia 1618 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,200 those kind of sandia 1619 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:48,160 Sandia you got it has assured that it is offering to write a report and make it available to the family in the next few 1620 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,960 Days so that if they so wish they can use it to channel the controversy raised around that name 1621 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,520 very good 1622 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,120 Sandia 1623 01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:04,400 Has affirmed that this type of controversy is frequent in civil registries, especially due to questions of the gender associated with the name 1624 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,760 in 2018 the academy of the basque language asked 1625 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:12,400 The spanish ministry of justice to act with flexibility in gender cases 1626 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,120 Since most of these issues derive from them 1627 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,500 Absolutely. There is some reasonable 1628 01:24:19,220 --> 01:24:21,220 reasonable advice there 1629 01:24:22,500 --> 01:24:26,180 Yeah, I mean it's it's just weird to me that that's happening today 1630 01:24:26,820 --> 01:24:28,820 Yeah, it's really 1631 01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:35,780 Yeah, it's not nice because you would have hoped we've moved beyond that. I was gonna I was gonna mention though 1632 01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:37,940 sort of to 1633 01:24:37,940 --> 01:24:43,380 To build up a bit of the context is also because basque was prohibited for so many decades 1634 01:24:43,380 --> 01:24:44,740 um 1635 01:24:44,740 --> 01:24:50,420 A lot of these parents don't speak basque and maybe their grandparents do like the children's grandparents 1636 01:24:50,500 --> 01:24:54,820 But the the parents of the children many times don't speak basque 1637 01:24:54,820 --> 01:25:01,940 So they don't necessarily have a close connection to the language, which i'm just justifying the fact that sometimes they might 1638 01:25:03,620 --> 01:25:04,740 Make 1639 01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:06,740 the wrong choice, but 1640 01:25:06,820 --> 01:25:10,260 You know clearly here el escar sandia has backed up the parents 1641 01:25:10,260 --> 01:25:15,060 What do you mean like the wrong choice in terms of gender a gender specific name? No, no 1642 01:25:15,060 --> 01:25:17,700 no, just i'm i'm maybe they just because 1643 01:25:19,860 --> 01:25:25,620 Um just they could choose a word that that has different connotations they don't understand for example 1644 01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:28,980 Yeah, or just you know the name of an object that is too 1645 01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:34,740 Crass, you know that they might not know is an object, you know, they just might think it's a name of a place 1646 01:25:35,460 --> 01:25:36,500 Yeah, it's a nice word 1647 01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:41,380 Yeah, but actually it might have a kind of kind of shocking or bad meaning and it's that kind of 1648 01:25:42,500 --> 01:25:44,900 an interesting one though also because you have 1649 01:25:45,780 --> 01:25:50,180 Oh gee, I can't think of the name though right now, but what I meant to say is that even though 1650 01:25:51,380 --> 01:25:55,060 The name can mean something negative like hate. It's still 1651 01:25:56,020 --> 01:25:58,020 I mean, i'm not sure if that's exact 1652 01:25:59,460 --> 01:26:03,860 Meaning of the the name i'm thinking of but you know something negative like that and yet 1653 01:26:03,860 --> 01:26:08,900 It's quite a popular name. Yeah, even though it's it's very random, but it might be a pretty name 1654 01:26:08,900 --> 01:26:12,340 It might be a pretty word, right? Exactly. Yeah, you know 1655 01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:14,180 Yeah 1656 01:26:14,180 --> 01:26:16,180 They're they're definitely 1657 01:26:16,340 --> 01:26:18,660 It's personal taste if you enjoy 1658 01:26:19,140 --> 01:26:21,140 Basque names, but I do like them 1659 01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:27,460 But that was a lovely story. Thank you and so relevant. Yeah, very lovely lovely. No, but you know 1660 01:26:27,460 --> 01:26:33,540 Yeah, lovely because I know they're gonna win and that fucking judge should go back to his country 1661 01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:37,700 Damn douglas 1662 01:26:42,900 --> 01:26:49,060 Closing his culture on the best people uh, when oh whatever culture that is. I mean it sounds like he's like, you know 1663 01:26:49,780 --> 01:26:51,940 gender norms and you know 1664 01:26:52,580 --> 01:26:56,580 That kind of crap is just seems strange oyandia today. I mean 1665 01:26:56,580 --> 01:27:00,020 That's the thing, you know, when yeah when your language has gender 1666 01:27:00,020 --> 01:27:03,540 It's sometimes hard to deal with different culture that doesn't have it 1667 01:27:03,540 --> 01:27:08,900 You don't quite get get get like if you don't speak a language. It doesn't have gender. It's hard to understand 1668 01:27:09,540 --> 01:27:10,660 Mm-hmm 1669 01:27:10,660 --> 01:27:12,420 Understandably. Yeah 1670 01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:14,420 um, so um 1671 01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:16,580 Do you have a mini crime time? 1672 01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:20,260 Today because I kind of do okay 1673 01:27:21,220 --> 01:27:23,220 Go for it. This happened actually today 1674 01:27:23,220 --> 01:27:28,740 Mm-hmm. I was coming home on the metro and um when I was leaving 1675 01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:33,700 Um to plaza uno, uno, there's usually like a busker 1676 01:27:34,740 --> 01:27:40,500 Right near the metro. Did you kick him? No, I did not commit any crimes 1677 01:27:41,220 --> 01:27:43,220 But this is the mini crime that I saw 1678 01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:46,660 I was walking and I was listening to another podcast 1679 01:27:47,540 --> 01:27:49,540 um, and I 1680 01:27:49,540 --> 01:27:52,820 I was listening to a podcast and I realized I'm 1681 01:27:53,460 --> 01:27:55,460 Listening to him singing 1682 01:27:55,700 --> 01:27:57,700 And I can tell that he's singing 1683 01:27:58,420 --> 01:28:00,420 Patience by guns and roses 1684 01:28:00,980 --> 01:28:04,580 Right. I recognize the song because I'm a big fan of guns and roses 1685 01:28:05,860 --> 01:28:10,020 But then I realized like is he actually singing patients? 1686 01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:14,260 So I paused my podcast to find out and sure shit 1687 01:28:14,740 --> 01:28:16,580 The guy was singing like 1688 01:28:16,580 --> 01:28:21,620 I have my is there all we know by your demo. We don't want to 1689 01:28:22,740 --> 01:28:24,740 Like making totally nonsense 1690 01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:30,340 I like that even the word patience. He wasn't saying he was like 1691 01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:38,980 So I was like that's a crime that's an english at least learn the words 1692 01:28:39,860 --> 01:28:43,060 Yeah, I mean he's earning his life with that. He should definitely 1693 01:28:43,060 --> 01:28:50,100 Yeah, I felt like it was a crime earning his keep it's a definitely mini crime if he is earning his keep fine 1694 01:28:50,660 --> 01:28:52,660 But uh, yeah to me it was a crime 1695 01:28:53,540 --> 01:28:55,540 It's a audio crime 1696 01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:57,780 right 1697 01:28:57,780 --> 01:29:00,020 Like which crime like play the song 1698 01:29:00,420 --> 01:29:04,020 If you're gonna play the song, I don't know. Am I wrong? What do you think? 1699 01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:08,420 Am I wrong? It was really funny to me, you know to hear somebody going 1700 01:29:08,420 --> 01:29:13,460 Yeah, right and I was wondering how many other people around me knew that he was not 1701 01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:16,100 Making any sense 1702 01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:20,740 I looked around like does anybody else realize that this guy's not actually saying anything 1703 01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:29,700 And just making sounds. I mean, I always find it odd when people are doing that. Have you seen it a lot? I have seen it 1704 01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:34,020 A number of times. I feel like yeah, I've heard somebody doing that 1705 01:29:34,020 --> 01:29:39,060 A number of times. I feel like yeah, i've heard somebody doing it with like bob dylan or something. Hmm 1706 01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:45,860 It's just like the street a lot of times. It'll be most of the time. I think that i've heard that happen 1707 01:29:45,860 --> 01:29:49,300 It's like somebody that goes. Oh, you know that song going kind of goes raw 1708 01:29:49,860 --> 01:29:53,460 And they don't know somebody performing it like that's what's weird to me 1709 01:29:53,460 --> 01:29:55,780 It's like somebody that like likes the song 1710 01:29:56,260 --> 01:30:01,940 Has learned the chords to play the guitar and everything so they managed they were actually playing it. Yeah 1711 01:30:01,940 --> 01:30:03,940 Yeah, he was playing it on the guitar 1712 01:30:04,420 --> 01:30:08,260 But he just never learned the lyrics one skill out of two. That's not too bad 1713 01:30:12,020 --> 01:30:16,420 So anyway, that's because you know some people some people put the background 1714 01:30:17,220 --> 01:30:21,460 Thing and then sing and then they don't do the music. So you're allowed to do one out of two 1715 01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:25,220 But so he should have like going to karaoke, right? 1716 01:30:25,220 --> 01:30:30,900 He just needs the the long voice and shut up and just play the guitar. You know, that's what you want him to do 1717 01:30:30,900 --> 01:30:33,140 I felt like going and taking over 1718 01:30:33,700 --> 01:30:38,500 Oh, I felt like you play the music and i'll sing the song and that would have been beautiful 1719 01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:41,860 That would be good. He probably would find it a crime though 1720 01:30:42,740 --> 01:30:45,700 At least at least a minute 1721 01:30:47,220 --> 01:30:49,220 Trying to get my 1722 01:30:51,220 --> 01:30:55,380 Yeah, that's a worthy story of many crying time 1723 01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:56,340 I think 1724 01:30:56,340 --> 01:31:01,140 I'd still have to look up the words on on like i'd have to look them up on my phone or something 1725 01:31:01,140 --> 01:31:05,940 That's normal to follow the song. Nobody knows lyrics. I know I mean I do know lyrics but like 1726 01:31:06,580 --> 01:31:11,780 Not everyone not every single lyric to that song. What's that little though? I do love that song. It's a good one 1727 01:31:12,660 --> 01:31:18,500 Like guns and roses. I'm pretty bad at lyrics. So i'm always gonna need the help in front of me. Mm-hmm 1728 01:31:19,780 --> 01:31:20,740 Yep 1729 01:31:20,740 --> 01:31:23,780 Hey, that's all i've got. It was fun. It was a nice story 1730 01:31:23,780 --> 01:31:26,740 I'm glad you weren't hurt. No, no, no 1731 01:31:27,860 --> 01:31:30,340 Nobody got hurt. It was funny. It was funny 1732 01:31:30,820 --> 01:31:36,580 It was actually a hilarious little moment in my day. So that's lovely, but I still found it to be a crime 1733 01:31:37,380 --> 01:31:39,380 I agree. I agree 1734 01:31:39,700 --> 01:31:47,140 Well, thank you everybody for listening. Yes. Thank you. It was a it was a chill time learning about basque people and their crimes. Yeah 1735 01:31:48,500 --> 01:31:52,420 And be sure to reach out to us for your mini crime today 1736 01:31:52,420 --> 01:31:58,820 For your mini crime time and it can be anything and it can be from anywhere and it doesn't have to be with the Basque country 1737 01:31:59,220 --> 01:32:01,620 We're gonna be excited if you want to audio record it 1738 01:32:02,180 --> 01:32:05,220 Also, that was you can send us an audio recording of your story 1739 01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:08,500 Um, we'll play it. That would be fine. Yeah 1740 01:32:09,700 --> 01:32:14,020 Yeah, so yeah, thanks for listening. Thanks for listening. Have a good one. Yeah 1741 01:32:14,580 --> 01:32:17,060 What's our cutoff? How do we we bid you? 1742 01:32:17,940 --> 01:32:19,940 a goor 1743 01:32:19,940 --> 01:32:21,940 Right 1744 01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:26,900 Crimes of the Basque lands is written and produced by double stick are violent. 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