1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Bat-bi-hiru-lau 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Watch your back, watch your back 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Ertzaintza's gonna get you 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Watch your back, watch your back 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Ertzaintza's gonna get you 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Watch your back, watch your back 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Oh, there's a crime here 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 It's a coming from the Euskal Herria 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Gotta wash those red hands 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,000 It's the crimes of the basquelands 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,000 It's the crimes of the basquelands 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 I haven't had a three day weekend for a long time 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Yeah, lucky you 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 If only I were so lucky 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Someday, someday, that's the dream 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 We'll make it there 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Once everybody's... 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Yeah, come on people, let's get on it 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 We don't need to work so much 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Why don't we just pay people reasonable wages to work 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Three to four days a week 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Wow, IRL, it's like March, end of March 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Yeah, very end of March, tomorrow is April 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Tomorrow's April 1st 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 It's April in Japan 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Oh, in Japan it's April 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 I've already listened to the news from April 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Same old, same old 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Yeah, so that's when we're recording this 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 So you'll hear it much later 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Because I was gonna say we're in the middle of an AI revolution 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Maybe we don't have to work anymore in March 10 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Maybe, yeah, when this comes out we'll be there, we'll be living in AI 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 So let's think positive 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 But in the meantime 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Here we are, in the end of March 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 There are still crimes in the world 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Yes, always, there always is 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 There's still descendants of Basque people in the world 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Yes, always 41 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 And that's our favorite theme for the podcast 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Yep, so it's crimes of the Basque lands 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 We talk about crimes in the Basque country 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 And all the lands that have been 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Populated 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Populated by their descendants, wherever they are 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Wherever they are in the world 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Tonight we're drinking a classic 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 From Basque lands brewery 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:41,000 I know, which I was thinking, we must have been semi-inspired by our podcast names through their beer, right? 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Because we drink that a lot, like quite regularly 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 And it's a very good, they're a very good brewery 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 We really recommend this beer 54 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Yes, I think they're making waves around the world right now 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Yes, I think so 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,000 And appropriately so named, Imparable, Unstoppable 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Yes, that's what we're drinking, the classic one, the IPA 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 It's lovely, very nice hobby profile 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 And see, you know 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Boom, that's us 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Cheers 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Cheers everybody 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 So this week we have another 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Cheeky Soad 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Cheeky Soad 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Cheeky means small? 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000 It does mean small, but as we were reminded after the first episode 68 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 It's not small, it's going to be the same length 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 It's the same length episode, it's just the stories are short 70 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Yeah, it's only like highlights of little mini crimes 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 I guess mini, I mean the crimes might be big, but 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Yeah, we're just mentioning 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 We're only going to cover them briefly 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Exactly 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 So you have a ton of stories to tell 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 I do, I always have come with a lot 77 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,000 But that's because I just eat this stuff up like breakfast 78 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 You love it 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 I've got my two minimums 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 To kind of give some variety here 81 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Yeah, and to try to get somewhere else in the world 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:10,000 It's true, I'm good at bringing in the outskirts of the Basque 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 I generally stick to the Basque Country 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 It's all good, it's all good 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,000 But Douglas is our international investigator 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Yeah, I explore further fields 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,000 We were joking that our research methods are kind of newbie 88 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,000 A lot of times we'll just go crimes, Latin America 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 And it's like we got a lot of statistics 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Yeah, we learn a lot 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Just by our search engine 92 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 We do 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:44,000 But one of my favorite methods where I usually get a little bit faster results 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Is just looking through surname 95 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 So I've mentioned this a couple of times 96 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 I said I just look for a surname 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 A surname and crime surname 98 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Which is great 99 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Blood, plus 100 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 I usually come up 101 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 And so that's the method I use today 102 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 That's amazing, I think it's a good way to go 103 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 And you came across some statistics 104 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Was that the first story? 105 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Yeah, I'll mention my statistics that I found 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,000 When I talk about one of the stories for tonight 107 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Oh, I have to say though 108 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Just to think about statistics as well 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Like today I wrote one of the surnames 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 I forget which one it was 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 We'll get to it and I'll remind the listeners that that was the one 112 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 But I just searched it 113 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,000 And I forgot to put like caught or crime or police 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Arrested someone 115 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 So I just put the name in and I was like 116 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Oh, so many nice stories 117 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 I was like there's something wrong here 118 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 I'm like oh yeah, you forgot to put crime 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 You forgot to put something bloody in search 120 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Yeah, I just want to prime our listeners to remind them 121 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 And all those surnames if we take away the word crime 122 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Are full of lots of nice stories as well 123 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Yeah, of course 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 And really the world is full of good people 125 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 It is 126 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Crimes are pretty minimal 127 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 You know, in terms of percentage 128 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Yeah, they are pretty 129 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 What's happening in the world 130 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 It's all about this impressions, right? 131 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Yeah 132 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 We hear about all those crimes 133 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 But in general people are doing great things 134 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 As well as bad things 135 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Yeah, it's true 136 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 But more good things 137 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Way more good things 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 So don't be afraid to get out there and live your life 139 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Yeah, cheers 140 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Cheers to that 141 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Cheers to that 142 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 On that note 143 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 My first story 144 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Okay, I'm going to start with the more gruesome stories 145 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 From the last period 146 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Since we did our last cheeky so 147 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 So the first stories that I'm going to tell you 148 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Are not lovely 149 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 It's going to get easier with time 150 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Yeah, so I'm going to start with the worst ones 151 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 And then hopefully we can end on a more positive note 152 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Fingers crossed 153 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 That's the idea 154 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Wish us luck 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 So shall I begin with this first terrible story? 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Let's go with it 157 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 It's terrible 158 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Okay, so this happened in January 159 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Of this year, 2023 160 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 So a woman 161 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Poisoned her two children 162 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Oh my gosh 163 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Who were ages 8 and 10 164 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Oh my gosh 165 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Here in the best country 166 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Yeah, in Baracadó, Baracatán 167 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 As you told me it's called 168 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 In the previous episode 169 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 It is their informal name 170 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 It was in Baracadó 171 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 And so with some unknown substance 172 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 They didn't say what substance she used 173 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 To try to poison her children 174 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 And then she tried to 175 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Cut her own throat 176 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 You know, commit suicide 177 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Essentially 178 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Commit her own suicide or take her own life 179 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 She had called her ex-partner 180 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Who was the father of these children 181 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 To inform them 182 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Him of what she was going to do 183 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 And he was the one that called the authorities 184 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 So 185 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Luckily 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Because she had done that 187 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 They arrived on the scene 188 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 And were able to save the children 189 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 And her 190 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 So 191 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 So nobody died 192 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 In this story 193 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 I mean, it's still very traumatic for everybody 194 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 But I'm really happy the kids survived 195 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Yeah, exactly 196 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Their lives, yeah, can I mean fixing 197 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 But 198 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 But first steps first 199 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 It's definitely trouble 200 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 But yeah, so 201 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 That's the first terrible story 202 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 That I have from the news 203 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Of recent 204 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 I'm sorry to hear 205 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 And do we have any names in this story? 206 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 There's no names 207 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 I mean, that's kind of 208 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 I mean, I think they're probably like protecting the children's 209 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Oh yeah, it should 210 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 I think, yeah, definitely children's names 211 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Shouldn't be 212 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Yeah, so they aren't giving any names in the story 213 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Yeah, would probably 214 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Maybe there's other stories that have come out since then 215 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 But they're different 216 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 But no, they didn't give their name 217 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Well, greater bow bow 218 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Yep, so that happened here 219 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Where we live, yeah, sadly 220 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 And it was like first of January 221 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 So New Year's Day 222 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Oh my gosh, yeah, emotional times 223 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 I think, I mean 224 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 This woman was clearly 225 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Needing some psychological help and 226 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Pressures over New Year 227 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Never help anybody 228 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Yeah, and if you're like 229 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 I don't know if they were recently divorced 230 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Or what have you 231 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 And so 232 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Family time, and it's Christmas 233 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Yeah, after Christmas 234 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Wow 235 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 So yeah, anyway 236 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 That's the first story I had 237 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Well, I hope they recover as fast as they can 238 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 They did, they're fine 239 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 They survived and the children 240 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 They're recovering and I'm assuming 241 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 They're going to go into custody 242 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 With their father 243 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Hopefully 244 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 So, that's my first terrible story 245 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 That was terrible 246 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 I know 247 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 And I've got more 248 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Let's go, let's dig that out 249 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Let's get worse 250 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 So today is 251 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 The time of recording 252 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 It is March 31st 253 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 The end of March 254 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Yesterday 255 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 In Doosto, fresh off the press 256 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Fresh off the press 257 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Which will bring back our conversation about stats 258 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Doosto is greater 259 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 It's part of Bobao 260 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 It used to be an independent 261 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Municipality 262 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 The one I love about it 263 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Because they're very very proud 264 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Of their neighborhoods 265 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Like it is a neighborhood now but 266 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 It's important to know that it used to be a municipality 267 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Like they have their own football team 268 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Probably had a town hall 269 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Oh for sure 270 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,000 They definitely had a town hall 271 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 But you know, of course 272 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Football team also creates a lot of identity, right? 273 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Yeah, absolutely 274 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 The part that I find hilarious 275 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 As a foreigner who's not used to 276 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Local terminology 277 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Like the name of the municipality of Doosto 278 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Was the Republic of Doosto 279 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 What? 280 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 What? 281 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 I don't know if it's an informal name but 282 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Everybody, you know 283 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 But like as a joke or is like a 284 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 They were serious 285 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,000 No, no, like that's how they say it 286 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 However, I don't know if it's like a weird translation 287 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 But it's like what everybody says 288 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 It's like yeah, yeah, a lot of public of the Doosto 289 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 I don't know if it's like a joke or is like 290 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Yeah, they think they're like a Republic 291 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Or if it actually was 292 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Literally historically 293 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 But you know, it's just a thing you hear around town all the time 294 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 So I think it's cute 295 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Something to look into 296 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 We have talked about Doosto 297 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 In an episode 298 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 I think I remember 299 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Talking about 300 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 The tomatoes, did I mention tomatoes? 301 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Because they're very famous for tomatoes as well 302 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Oh, are they? Why? 303 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 I think I mentioned that already at some point 304 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 I guess they 305 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Well, we mentioned a lot of things 306 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Bilbao used to be very small 307 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 And Doosto kind of used to be like the outskirts 308 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Where you would have vegetable gardens 309 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 So I guess they were just famous for 310 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 For their tomatoes 311 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 And today they're known for their university 312 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 It's one of the most prestigious universities 313 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 In the country 314 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 In Spain 315 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 For law and business, economics 316 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 So there you go 317 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Well, this is gruesome 318 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 As well, sorry everybody 319 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 So, trigger warning 320 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 I should have given you a trigger warning for the other one about the children 321 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 So I'm really sorry 322 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 I did not 323 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 But trigger warning 324 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 We put the general trigger warning in the entry 325 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 So if you're listening to True Crime Podcast 326 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 It should come with 327 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Horrific events 328 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Come with a turf 329 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 So this just happened yesterday 330 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 So, and it's another 331 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Fucking terrible case 332 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Of a 333 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Man 334 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Who has broken up with his partner 335 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 And 336 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Attacks his partner 337 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Gosh, how ridiculous 338 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 So this was a 339 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 60 year old man 340 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Who went to the home 341 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Of his ex partner 342 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Who was 58 343 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Well, he 344 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Beat her up 345 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 And he set her on fire 346 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Oh my gosh, what a ridiculous 347 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Yep 348 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Stupid dickhead 349 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Yep, one of the many 350 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 So yep, so she's now 351 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 In the 352 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Major burns unit of 353 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Cruises Hospital 354 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 So her status 355 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 We don't know 356 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 At this point 357 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 They have a 15 year old daughter 358 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Together 359 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 According to neighbors, they were 360 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 A very problematic 361 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Partnership 362 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 They interviewed 363 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 The neighbors 364 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Because it happened at the house where they once lived together 365 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 And the partners said they 366 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Constantly fought, blah blah blah 367 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 And she had thrown him out of the house 368 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 On several occasions 369 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 And yep 370 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 So the neighbor that I guess talked 371 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 To the police about their 372 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Relationship also said that he was the one 373 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 That heard screams 374 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Coming from the apartment and called the police 375 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Oh my gosh 376 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 So they were able to come and intervene 377 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 And actually he said 378 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 That the neighbor was the one that went in to put out 379 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 The flames 380 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Oh my gosh 381 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Very hard 382 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Really hardcore 383 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 So it's sometimes good to 384 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Stick your nose in your neighbors affairs 385 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 For their sake 386 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Of course 387 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 So that 388 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 This was the story I was going to say when I was 389 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 When I 390 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Do my searches too, I just put in 391 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Crimes, fast country 392 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 And the year 393 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 To see what comes up 394 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 I always get like stats 395 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Right? Like how many crimes 396 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 The types of crimes that have 397 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Occurred 398 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Like if it's robbery or if it's assault 399 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Or if it's murder or whatever 400 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 And 401 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 And then it then leads me to these 402 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Other articles that say that actually 403 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 In the Basque Country there are 404 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Less machista 405 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Crimes because these are considered gender 406 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Gender violence crimes 407 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Or sexist crimes 408 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 So less than the rest of Spain 409 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Less than the rest of Spain 410 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 They're lower than the rest of the 411 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 I mean I expect that 412 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 It's a very matriarchal society 413 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 In the sense that women are 414 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Have a very powerful position in society 415 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Right? They 416 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 They're very present, they're very strong 417 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 They've been present 418 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 For many years so 419 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 I mean I assume that would help 420 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Lower those 421 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Kinds of numbers 422 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Yeah, they say it's a 423 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Matriarchal society but 424 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 I don't know if I say that 425 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 I wouldn't call it a matriarchal society 426 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 I would say yes that women have a lot more 427 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Involved 428 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 How do I say 429 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 They are more 430 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Involved 431 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Let's say because there's a lot of 432 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Fishing 433 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 There's a lot of fishing culture 434 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 So there's a lot of 435 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Places where men are away for a long time 436 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 So women tend to take 437 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Care of business and 438 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 The business of like the men go fish 439 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 The women take the fish and 440 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Then sell it so they're a lot more involved 441 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 In the economics 442 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 A lot of times 443 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Historically than in other places I would say 444 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Historically as well you know 445 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 We've mentioned already 446 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Basque whaling being a very 447 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Historically important 448 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Trade and 449 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 I want to and also 450 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Cod 451 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Going for 452 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Trading for cod with Norway and 453 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Iceland and things like that so like 454 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 They're very long trips so they'd be 455 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Away for months 456 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 They went to North America 457 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Before other Europe 458 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 They're the ones in charge at home 459 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 For months 460 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 For long periods of time 461 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Bringing up their children and a dangerous 462 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Kind of 463 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Profession as well of course 464 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Where sometimes those boats wouldn't come home 465 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Exactly 466 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 They would be the heads of the household 467 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 It's a possibility and they knew 468 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 About that 469 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Yeah that's definitely 470 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 That absolutely feeds into the culture 471 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Yeah 472 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 For sure and 473 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 I wouldn't go so far as to say that 474 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 This is a matriarchal society 475 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 People here say it is but I don't 476 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 I wouldn't say necessarily that it is 477 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 It's more like gay friendly 478 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 There's no gay friendly country but there are 479 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 More gay friendlier countries 480 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 They are yeah 481 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 So I think in relation to 482 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Other patriarchal societies 483 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 It's very matriarchal but it's not matriarchal 484 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 In the absolute sense 485 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Not in the absolute sense 486 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Not systemically but maybe culturally 487 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 No yeah 488 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 There's a lot of respect for the women 489 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 The mothers but that's the thing 490 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 It makes a big difference if in the last 491 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 300 years women have been able 492 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 To inherit have been able 493 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 This is a huge feminist culture here 494 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 To run businesses 495 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 And here they've always kept 496 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Their name you know you never adopt your 497 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Men's name yeah but that's the case 498 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 All over the country 499 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 It is but you know well 500 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Here you know not in Portugal 501 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 I'm not sure about France 502 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Actually might be the same in France 503 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 But you know those things count 504 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Yes absolutely they count yeah 505 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Absolutely they count yeah 506 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 So you know I think in Latin American 507 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Or anything 508 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 No they take the men's name 509 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000 As far as I understand yes but maybe 510 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 They might not 511 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 In Brazil they definitely do 512 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 They do they definitely do yeah 513 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 The father's name yeah 514 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 The woman takes the 515 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Husband's name as her own she does 516 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 But also the children 517 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Have both her names 518 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 See that's different 519 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 It's in a different order than in Spain 520 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Because in Spain you go 521 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 First name middle name 522 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 So my name is Douglas Alexander 523 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 And then here it goes 524 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Father's name mother's name 525 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 So the last name 526 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Father's second last name which is his mother's 527 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Last name you're going too fast 528 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 You've lost half of our audience 529 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Oh sorry 530 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Sorry what you're 531 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Going to say 532 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Well they keep all the names 533 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 They keep both their matriarchal and their patriarchal 534 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Names they're their you mean when you 535 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Marry maternal names 536 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 So like in my case so Douglas 537 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Or even children of a partnership 538 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Yeah like 539 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 When you marry you don't change your name 540 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 No yeah but the first 541 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Two names are not family names 542 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Necessarily generally you just get 543 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Two family names generally 544 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Like yes your 545 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Husband only has two family names right 546 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 He literally has four 547 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Sure but he goes by two 548 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Oh right so he did write down all four 549 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 And his mother's 550 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 And then he has two more 551 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Added on to that 552 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 So he has four surnames 553 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Now there's a thing here 554 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Which I guess we have to talk about now 555 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 The eight surnames right 556 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Oh yeah the eight after you 557 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 This is a thing in the Basque Country 558 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 So if you know your four 559 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Surnames that means you know 560 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Every one of your grandparents surnames right 561 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 And if you know all of 562 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Your eight surnames that means you know 563 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 All of your great grandparents 564 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Although it should be 565 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 More right it should be 566 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Shouldn't it be 16 567 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Four eight yeah we're terrible 568 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Bear with us 569 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 So before then it would be 570 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 No that's right that's eights yeah 571 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 It's the parents it's eights 572 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000 It would be the two yeah it's all the man 573 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Plus all the wife's names 574 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 In a way yeah so then you get eight 575 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 So if you 576 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 The line goes and this 577 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Is a bit of a joke and there's a film about it 578 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 And it's a very funny film yeah 579 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Which is your only really Basque 580 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 If all of your eight surnames 581 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Are Basque are Basque yeah 582 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 So that's kind of the joke but on 583 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Paper you're only 584 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Required to have two and generally 585 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 That's what people do so yeah people usually 586 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Go by two your husband is a bit 587 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 He goes by it but he has the four 588 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 He he 589 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 There are four because 590 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 His mother has two that are 591 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 The the 592 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000 You know his mother 593 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 And his father have two others yeah 594 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 But he's not going by right 595 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Yeah but that's the thing is 596 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Some people have them some people 597 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Don't but generally we don't write them 598 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 In our birth certificates here or 599 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 In Latin America we only get two 600 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 I don't know about birth certificates I've never looked at 601 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 His birth certificates 602 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Well I'm doing nationality 603 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Things so I'm looking into birth certificates 604 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 My great great my great grandmother 605 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Not great great just great 606 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000 So she had like three first names 607 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Like one first name 608 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Two middle names and then her two surnames 609 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 But that was in Catalonia 610 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 She's Catalan not Basque 611 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 But it's the same surname 612 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Traditional it goes same order 613 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 So it's sort of similar 614 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Yeah they they 615 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 They alternate right 616 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Father mother father mother father mother right 617 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 In that order 618 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Exactly whereas in Brazil they would 619 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Still pretty patriarchal right that the father 620 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Comes first always 621 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Well it depends how you 622 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Look at it because the two cultures I 623 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Know I'm going to look at it 624 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 That's fine but however 625 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 From my point of view 626 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Like I grew up 627 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Between Portuguese 628 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 And English and so 629 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 In English you 630 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Ask me what my last name is 631 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Not my surname or can 632 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 You can say my surname but last name is 633 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Surname it is but 634 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 It not in the case of the Basque country 635 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Right because it's your penultimate 636 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Name that is your surname 637 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000 Not your last name 638 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 It's not literally your last name 639 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Because Americans say 640 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Last name not surname 641 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Sure but what I mean to say is also it 642 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Doesn't come in the last 643 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Place in in terms of 644 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 The male name 645 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 So 646 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 So your husband's 647 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Father's surname comes before 648 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Your his 649 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Mother's surname and then his mother's 650 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Surname would technically come in 651 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 The last place on his name 652 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 But it's not his last name that's what I mean 653 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Yeah yeah which is 654 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000 You know my he's going 655 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 By but he's going by his 656 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 In general he's going by his 657 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Father's surname 658 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Of course like most people 659 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 It's not that matriarchal yet 660 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Yet 661 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Not yet but 662 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Yeah I mean 663 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 I think we're we're on the same page right 664 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Yeah 665 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 My point was that as a gay guy 666 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Who has been with 667 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000 People of 668 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 You know Basque culture and all my partners 669 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Actually were Basque 670 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 It would be it you know sometimes 671 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 We thought about adopting 672 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 I think I'm getting older for that right now 673 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Okay 674 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 So I'm thinking that's in my past but when 675 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 I came up there was 676 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 There would be a question about 677 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 The surnames and I always 678 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Thought it was cute that if I had 679 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 A baby with 680 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Another guy from here 681 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Both of us would be happy because 682 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 I would be happy my name would be the last 683 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 One and he would be 684 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Happy his name would be the one before 685 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Last why were you happy that yours would be 686 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 The last one because in my 687 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Both cultures 688 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 The last name is your surname 689 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Not your one before 690 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Last so if 691 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 You were called you know 692 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Ghanoussa 693 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Garcia 694 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Then in all the 695 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Countries that consider your last name your 696 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Surname Garcia would be your last 697 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Surname however in the countries where 698 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 You know like Castilian 699 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaking countries they would consider the 700 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 The one before last the surname 701 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 So my partner 702 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Would be happy here and then maybe Latin 703 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 America but I would be 704 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Happy in Brazil and then the UK 705 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000 It's like you know everybody got their 706 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Cute 707 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Little intercultural 708 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Relationships some 709 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Benefits many 710 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Disadvantages 711 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000 But that was one of the nice cute 712 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Tangent on surnames we didn't even see 713 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 That coming I babies 714 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 I mean surname I love 715 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Family trees and I've been doing 716 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 I know 717 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000 I guess you actually got me into it 718 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 I love it thanks to 719 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Everybody should do their family trees and 720 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Half of our listeners probably have 721 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Basque ancestry 722 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 I bet I have some back there 723 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 We're gonna find that 724 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 We're gonna 725 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Find some crimes 726 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 I'm sure 727 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 That'll be a special day 728 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 We can have a family crime 729 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Day yeah we talk about our 730 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Own family members all the crimes we can 731 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Find their own family from the past they're long dead 732 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 We can talk about them now 733 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 I mean if I look if I stretch 734 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 The net wide enough I'm sure 735 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 You can find a lot of cousins in prison 736 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Sure and even many crimes yeah 737 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 That counts many 738 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000 That's harder to find but yeah 739 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Wait for this major crimes maybe not 740 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Super AI might be able to tell us 741 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 About our family super AI I don't 742 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Know like every week there's not a lot of 743 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Fact checking every week though 744 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 No it's not not not factual yet 745 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Yeah maybe when our 746 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Listeners listen to this it's become 747 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Factual but maybe not yet 748 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 Well guys this is a good 749 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Chance for a little break 750 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Bathroom break 751 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Or whatever yeah let's do it 752 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 See you in two three 753 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Okay 754 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Hi there we're back 755 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 We're back so Douglas 756 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 What's your story? This crime is 757 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Occurred in Chile 758 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 The neighborhood is called 759 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:39,840 called the Thames, T-H-A-M-E-S, which is, you know, the River Thames. 760 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Yeah. 761 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:47,920 Apparently there's a neighborhood in Santiago called that. 762 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:56,880 And this guy who is 23 years old, unfortunately, was killed with a, by a shot. 763 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,080 And this guy was on the loose. 764 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,520 He was shot. 765 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:12,080 It was, there was a party going on and this guy came running in sort of as an excuse that 766 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,240 he wanted to save this guy outside. 767 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040 And apparently he is the main suspect. 768 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,480 And finally they got him. 769 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,480 This happened in January. 770 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,600 I don't know if 50. 771 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,040 So wait, somebody got killed. 772 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,040 It was in January. 773 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,040 At a party. 774 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:31,480 So the thing was there was a party in this neighborhoods in a time Thames neighborhoods. 775 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,320 And this guy came running in and said, help, help. 776 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,560 This guy is on the floor. 777 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,560 He's hurt. 778 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,560 And they went out and they saw the guy had passed away. 779 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,280 They called the police, but this guy who went into the party was who shot him. 780 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,000 For him was the one who shot him. 781 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:58,200 And so today we're seeing the news that he was sent to prison for 16 years for that killing. 782 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:05,800 And they have other, during the process, they found some witnesses who did see, they just 783 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,960 kind of randomly were having an argument. 784 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:16,560 There's no explanation as to why, but he, Jorge Garro was, was, was shot on his lower 785 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,560 back somewhere. 786 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,560 I said lumber area. 787 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,240 That was the lumber. 788 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,360 And he passed away almost immediately. 789 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:31,600 So today Fabian Lucero is the guy who was condemned for his death. 790 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,840 And so Garro is the best and Garro is the surname from the victim from Iparralde from 791 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,640 the Northern best country from the victim. 792 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Unfortunately. 793 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,640 Yeah. 794 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Yeah. 795 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,000 So it's not an actual like real cause. 796 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,200 We don't have any explanation in a couple of articles that I read about it, but at least 797 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,080 he was condemned for 16 years. 798 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,680 So the victim was Garro. 799 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,680 Yeah. 800 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:07,480 Jorge Garro was a victim and the guy who killed him was Fabian Lucero in Chile. 801 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,160 And the surname came from North of the best country. 802 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,240 Cute. 803 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:19,520 Like apparently there's a Valley Garro, maybe Garro if it's French, but it comes from Basque, 804 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,520 of course. 805 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,640 And there's a castle and everything. 806 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,640 I've never heard of that. 807 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,680 So now it must be tiny. 808 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Yeah. 809 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,720 Tiny, tiny Valley. 810 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,160 Lucero, I think has some kind of connotation as well in Castilian. 811 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,160 Do you know? 812 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,160 I have no idea. 813 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,160 I, yeah. 814 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,160 I mean, Lucero I've heard of the surname, but I don't know if it's Basque or not. 815 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,720 I don't think so. 816 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:52,600 No, it's not Basque at all, but I just think it's got some weird meaning that is related 817 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,160 to death as well. 818 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,320 Oh, like Lucifer, like the devil. 819 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,160 It actually is a variation of Lucifer. 820 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,160 I just checked it. 821 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,160 It is actually that. 822 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,920 I said the devil killed him. 823 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120 Well, it comes from light. 824 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:15,200 Yes, because he was the, okay, if I remember my Catholic upbringing, he was the fallen 825 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,080 angel that became Lucifer. 826 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,080 Okay. 827 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:25,320 So I can't remember how he like here it says he got into, you know, bad business with God 828 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,320 or whatever. 829 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,440 And then he became Lucifer. 830 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,440 He was the fallen angel. 831 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Yeah, I remember that. 832 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:39,080 And here in etymology it says because he was the carrier of light apparently from the Greek 833 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,080 Hespero. 834 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,040 Hespero, well, there you go. 835 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,560 I mean, well, yeah, but wait a minute. 836 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,040 I want to check the dictionary because I think it's an actual word. 837 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,040 That's what I should have done in the beginning. 838 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,040 Sorry, guys. 839 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,680 See, it is a word and it means a bright star or Venus. 840 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,680 Lucero. 841 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,320 Yeah, means bright star. 842 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Okay. 843 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Okay. 844 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:11,080 Well, I must be thinking of another words in any case that bright star that shine of 845 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,200 light killed our poor Harhagar. 846 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760 He was well, I mean, that's what happened with Lucifer. 847 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,000 He just seemed like he had a lot of promise and then he did something really bad. 848 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,440 I can't remember what it was because I don't blocked out a lot of my Catholic upbringing. 849 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Well, I watched the camera when he did to piss off, you know, the higher ups to make 850 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,960 him go down to hell or whatever and become the overlord of hell. 851 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,080 I think of the devil. 852 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,520 I mean, there's probably 80 versions, right? 853 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,520 We have to choose. 854 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,520 Probably most likely. 855 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:49,000 I have to say I was I was I'm still am a very big fan of the Netflix show. 856 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,640 Lucifer. 857 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,320 They kept going on a lot of time. 858 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,240 Douglas takes care of Nana. 859 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,840 I can see his what he's watched on Netflix. 860 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,520 My gay things I can find Lucifer. 861 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,400 Is there a lot of like really hot men? 862 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,400 Yeah. 863 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Well, he for one, he's bi, which makes me very happy. 864 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,920 And you know, it's it's it's an American series. 865 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,680 There's enough ass kind of some ass to keep you entertained. 866 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,560 He's a sexy little boy. 867 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,560 But is it about like a devil? 868 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,360 I haven't watched any of it. 869 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:28,320 So it's a kind of it's a little bit cheesy kind of, of course, naturally. 870 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:35,160 But like, you know, it's like and it's a kind of cute take because somehow he is a devil 871 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,120 and yet he cannot lie. 872 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:43,400 Oh, so he has to say the truth and he's just always using subterfuges. 873 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Plus everybody is saying, oh, my God, he's like, not my father again. 874 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,280 He's always like. 875 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,160 So he refers to God as his father. 876 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,600 That's I like that cheesy bit. 877 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,720 And so all the times it's kind of like just awkward. 878 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,720 Don't put my father in. 879 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,720 Yeah, yeah. 880 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,320 And he will kind of just people don't pick up on it. 881 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,940 I love it. 882 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:12,800 So they went on and on about how unjust it was for father to do that with him. 883 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,680 But they didn't specify what he did. 884 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,680 And I can't remember either. 885 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Yeah, I'm not sure they were. 886 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,720 I know I was taught it at some point, but I can't remember. 887 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,960 I don't think they were really closely looking at the Bible. 888 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,560 Maybe they're maybe they are, though. 889 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,480 Good writers would do that. 890 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,480 I think. 891 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,480 Yeah, they would. 892 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,000 Little build on a story, you know, that was already there. 893 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,080 You know, well, yeah, versions and versions. 894 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,600 Of course, everything's a version. 895 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400 It can take everything is a version, but it can take us so far. 896 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,400 Yeah. 897 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,760 I mean, it's funny, like sometimes I see that. 898 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,040 And you guys have seen I love etymology, seeing where words come from. 899 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,040 Yeah. 900 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,040 And it's really weird sometimes. 901 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,680 And I'm sorry, I don't have an example right now. 902 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:02,000 But a lot of times like now I'm studying Norwegian mostly. 903 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,000 And it's crazy. 904 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,480 You'll find a word and it's like from German. 905 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,280 And then that came from Latin and then that came from, you know, Turkish and that came 906 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,280 from Arabic. 907 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,640 And they're like, it used to be like a cushion in Arabic. 908 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,480 And suddenly it's somebody's name or a way to kill somebody. 909 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,080 It's like the name, like the words go across culture and it becomes something else and 910 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,080 it becomes all meaning. 911 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,080 Well, not that they always have an aspect. 912 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,080 Build on a meaning. 913 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,080 That's the thing. 914 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,080 That's what I'm trying to say. 915 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,240 Yeah, they're building on something that was already there. 916 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:33,800 They're built, but in a very different. 917 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,800 I'm not sure. 918 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,800 Build riff on. 919 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,160 I think riff on is more where I'm going. 920 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,440 So by the fourth riff, I don't know if we've got much connection with. 921 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,080 So you don't think the TV show has anything to do with. 922 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:53,680 I mean, it obviously has something, but there was the special like sword that would kill 923 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,400 anybody, even God or something. 924 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,120 And I was like, I'm not, I mean, I'm not even Catholic, so I don't know if that exists. 925 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,120 Yeah, that could exist. 926 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,120 I don't know. 927 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,280 I can't remember anything like that, but it's possible. 928 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,280 It just depends what Christian you are as well, though. 929 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,280 Yeah. 930 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,280 There's a lot of different Christians. 931 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,280 Yeah, it's true. 932 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,280 Yeah. 933 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,360 Do you think Orthodox Christians believe in Lucifer? 934 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,400 Yes, I do. 935 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,840 I think they just call it Putin. 936 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,840 I hadn't planned that. 937 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,840 I thought it was true. 938 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:32,360 Depending on your political readings, it'll be either Lucifer or Biden. 939 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,360 So I go back to. 940 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,360 Yeah. 941 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:40,720 Your surname, though, you were saying this like could be from French of French Valley. 942 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:41,720 Garro. 943 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:42,720 Garro. 944 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,360 Yeah, it was a valley in France and there's a little castle. 945 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,560 So it appears that's where the surname came from. 946 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,560 OK. 947 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,560 In bed. 948 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,480 Which is a good like what? 949 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,480 How do you call it? 950 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Like a lead in a hook. 951 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,480 Well, sort of. 952 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,480 It's. 953 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,040 What's the name of that thing? 954 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,520 A good leader. 955 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,520 A good leader. 956 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,520 A good no, it's not. 957 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Oh, man, I can't remember the word vocabulary escapes me now. 958 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,520 Hook. 959 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,520 No, it's not. 960 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,520 Oh, shit. 961 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,520 Transition. 962 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,520 That's what you want. 963 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,520 Yes. 964 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,520 It's a good transition. 965 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,520 OK. 966 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:26,280 So, yeah, your story about this valley in France is a good transition because I. 967 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,320 In the northern Basque country, Julie. 968 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,320 Excuse me. 969 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,320 Northern Basque country. 970 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,320 Southern France. 971 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,320 Thank you. 972 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:42,440 And does actually transition into a story I'm going to tell you that was big news in 973 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,800 our first story about French Basque country. 974 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,520 Well, I mean, we did touch on northern Basque country in which is true. 975 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520 True, true. 976 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,240 We did mention, although not much happened there. 977 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:55,240 Yeah. 978 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,360 It was a bit of living in a northern Basque country before. 979 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,360 Yeah. 980 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,160 So this happened in a very, you know, like this is a beautiful little town, San Juan 981 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,160 de Luz. 982 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,160 Hmm. 983 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,160 San Juan de Luz. 984 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,160 Yeah. 985 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,160 It's beautiful. 986 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,160 Yeah. 987 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,160 It's a really I mean, I've been there. 988 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,160 Have you been there? 989 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,160 I have. 990 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,160 It's lovely. 991 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640 I hesitated a bit there, but yeah, I have. 992 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,440 I went there for Corrica. 993 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,480 Oh, you went running. 994 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,480 Douglas running. 995 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,320 Yeah, you did used to run. 996 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,280 I remember you running at one point. 997 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,280 Corrica, Corrica. 998 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,280 Shall we explain? 999 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,280 Yeah, go ahead. 1000 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,280 People, what is it? 1001 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,280 Corrica. 1002 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,280 Yeah. 1003 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,560 Very cute little project. 1004 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:39,840 So it's a project that people have created to support the Basque language and Basque 1005 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,840 education. 1006 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,840 Mm hmm. 1007 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,800 So the way it works is every, I think it's every year, right? 1008 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,800 It's not every two years. 1009 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,280 It's every year. 1010 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,920 So they make a whole route around all of, I'm not sure if you have to go through every 1011 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,880 Basque province, but it goes through all the Basque country. 1012 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,680 They circle into Navarre, into the Basque autonomous region, and then into Northern 1013 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,520 Basque country. 1014 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:10,900 And every kilometer has to be sponsored by either a company or a private person or whoever 1015 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:12,880 wants to sponsor them. 1016 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:19,280 And each year they manage to usually build a whole new school, a Basque... 1017 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,640 Like I Castella. 1018 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,760 Yeah, like I Castella, which will teach children usually in Basque for the first year. 1019 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,920 So they just do that as a way for years to try and... 1020 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,920 I Castella is like a primary school in Basque. 1021 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,920 In Basque, yeah. 1022 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:40,280 So for regions like in the Northern Basque country, which with a very centralized French 1023 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,240 education system, they really had no option in a public system to study Basque. 1024 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:51,600 So they had to have these kind of private schools to be able to study Basque historically. 1025 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:57,600 I mean, now it's easier and there's some more options, but yeah, France is very bad at teaching 1026 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,600 anything but French. 1027 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:00,600 So it's super important there. 1028 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:06,120 And here it was also important because after dictatorship, there was very little education 1029 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,200 in Basque initially. 1030 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,840 So I went up there and you don't need to run like a lot. 1031 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,840 And I think I would... 1032 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,840 No, you can do like a kilometer. 1033 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,980 I did it one year and I did like a kilometer. 1034 00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:20,440 So I just ran through Bilbao for a kilometer. 1035 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,440 Exactly. 1036 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:27,280 And a lot of times it's just for fun and you've got music in Basque when you're running and 1037 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,920 people are singing little things, chants in Basque. 1038 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,200 And it's just as well, it's a Basque culture thing. 1039 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,200 It's very sweet. 1040 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,680 Do you know it's even reached Boise, Idaho? 1041 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,680 Oh, I'm sure it has. 1042 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,680 That's so sweet. 1043 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,680 I didn't know though. 1044 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,680 They have a currica in Boise, Idaho, yeah. 1045 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,680 Oh, that's sweet. 1046 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,680 Because they have a I Castella in Boise, Idaho as well. 1047 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,680 They must, yeah, of course. 1048 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,680 That's so nice. 1049 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,680 So they even have the currica in Boise, Idaho. 1050 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Shout out Boise, Idaho. 1051 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,720 Shout out, shout out. 1052 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:59,800 I think we, since we're mentioning it and it's, let's hope it's unlikely to find any 1053 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,840 crime connected to the currica. 1054 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,760 It's possible. 1055 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,720 Let's mention to the listeners the little thing they say when they shout when you're 1056 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:12,720 running. 1057 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:13,720 I don't know. 1058 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:14,720 They go tipi tapa, tipi tapa, currica. 1059 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:15,720 Oh like step, step, step. 1060 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:16,720 Yeah. 1061 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:17,720 Step, step, step, step, step. 1062 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:18,720 Just one step at a time kind of thing. 1063 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:19,720 Exactly. 1064 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:20,720 Just one more step at a time. 1065 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:21,720 So it's always in your rhythm. 1066 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:22,720 Tipi tapa, tipi tapa, currica. 1067 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:23,720 It's very cute, it's very cute. 1068 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:24,720 It's, you know, once you've done it for, you know, that's exactly, I didn't do it for 1069 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:25,720 long. 1070 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:26,720 I only did it once. 1071 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:27,720 Yeah. 1072 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:28,720 But it was traumatizing enough that it sunk into my heart. 1073 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:29,720 Why was it traumatizing? 1074 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:30,720 You know, running, running, running. 1075 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:31,720 Oh yeah, running is hard. 1076 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:32,720 No, I enjoy running. 1077 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:33,720 Not really. 1078 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:34,720 It was a lot of running. 1079 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:35,720 I enjoy running. 1080 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:36,720 I enjoy running. 1081 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:37,720 I enjoy running. 1082 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:38,720 I enjoy running. 1083 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:39,720 I enjoy running. 1084 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:40,720 I enjoy running. 1085 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:46,720 I enjoy running. 1086 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:47,720 Not really. 1087 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,720 It was, it was, it's just very much a cute cultural thing. 1088 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,720 And yeah, yeah, it's fun. 1089 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:53,720 It's fun. 1090 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,720 It's a good, it's a fun experience. 1091 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:56,720 Yeah. 1092 00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:01,320 A lot of times when you're doing a little bit of like a physical effort, you're lifting 1093 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,040 something between three or four people. 1094 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,720 People go, tipi tapa, tipi, you know, kind of like, let's go, let's go, let's go. 1095 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:06,720 Come on, come on. 1096 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,800 So it's just kind of cute. 1097 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:22,880 So now we're in the Northern Basque country, which, you know, is in San Juan de Luz. 1098 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,660 It was a terrible, this is also very terrible. 1099 00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:32,340 So a 54, 54 year old Spanish teacher. 1100 00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:40,400 So they were teaching Spanish in this school, was stabbed by one of their students and killed. 1101 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,400 Yeah. 1102 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,400 I heard about that story. 1103 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,400 It was horrible. 1104 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:55,240 It was a 16 year old teenager who apparently suffered from psychiatric problems. 1105 00:42:55,240 --> 00:43:04,760 And before attacking claimed that something like quote unquote, it's not me, I'm possessed 1106 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,760 by the devil. 1107 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,760 That's what they said. 1108 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:15,640 So, I'm laughing because it kind of, that's why we mentioned it was the, the witches. 1109 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,640 Yeah. 1110 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,640 Yeah. 1111 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,240 And it was a Catholic school. 1112 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:20,240 Oh, really? 1113 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,080 So this attack occurred on Wednesday morning. 1114 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:28,760 Well, this was in, this happened, this was in, oh no, I usually put the date. 1115 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,760 Oh yeah. 1116 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,520 February was in February, 2023. 1117 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,440 So it happened on a Wednesday morning, uh, before 10 AM at the Collegio Santo Tomas de 1118 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,800 Aquino, who is a very famous St. Thomas Aquinas. 1119 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,800 Yeah. 1120 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,800 He's very famous and Catholic. 1121 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,240 What is the Saint Julie? 1122 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:47,240 Oh, he's a Saint. 1123 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:50,240 That's why I know the name. 1124 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:52,320 Why does that sound familiar? 1125 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,320 Uh, yes. 1126 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,640 A private Catholic, uh, school. 1127 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:04,960 Um, so this person got up, uh, from their desk, locked, went to lock the classroom door 1128 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:11,800 and then went directly to the teacher who was at the blackboard and, uh, he took out 1129 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,200 a knife and stabbed. 1130 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,200 Oh my gosh. 1131 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,200 Poor teacher. 1132 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,200 Yeah. 1133 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,200 It was a, I think it was a woman. 1134 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,840 Oh really? 1135 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,840 Poor person. 1136 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,840 Yeah. 1137 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,840 Um, so he, this, the rest of the students tried to escape from the classroom while they 1138 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,840 were, while this was happening. 1139 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:40,640 Um, but it was another teacher who intervened and convinced him to hand over the one, the 1140 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,640 knife. 1141 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,200 So, um, yeah, and well, you know, before the police arrived, apparently the student confessed 1142 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,160 to that teacher who had convinced him to give him the knife, um, that he had heard voices 1143 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,560 and was possessed. 1144 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,280 And it was, you know, sadly, you know, this is a kid that like apparently had good grades. 1145 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,440 It was not a troublesome student, no criminal record. 1146 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:11,560 Um, but yeah, there was a record of them having like some sort of psychiatric disorder. 1147 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,760 So was the teacher, did she die? 1148 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:14,760 She died. 1149 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,760 Oh my gosh. 1150 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,760 Yeah. 1151 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,160 It wasn't, it wasn't clear when I first heard the news. 1152 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,240 Yeah. 1153 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,240 So that's pretty sad. 1154 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:22,720 That's very sad. 1155 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:23,720 Yeah. 1156 00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:30,240 That was the first crime I'd heard about like, oh, that's a, that's the French Basque country. 1157 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:31,240 The Northern sides. 1158 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:32,240 Yeah. 1159 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:37,240 So that's a, in Basque, in Basque we say, uh, Ipar-Alde. 1160 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,240 Ipar is North. 1161 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:40,440 Alde is side. 1162 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,720 So it's like the North side, the North side of Aldea. 1163 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,120 That's why I learned that many times on this podcast. 1164 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,760 You see, you're going to learn like at least five words. 1165 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:57,160 I'm learning every day on this podcast, which is the point I'm learning along with our listeners. 1166 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,400 Let's let's learn Mr. Tomaso De Quino as you were asking before. 1167 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,400 Oh yeah. 1168 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,400 Who the hell is that? 1169 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,240 He's, uh, he's born 12, 25. 1170 00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:09,240 What did he do that was so special? 1171 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:15,200 He was an Italian Dominican friar and priest and influential philosopher and theologian 1172 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,200 and jurists. 1173 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,200 That's it. 1174 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,200 Philosopher. 1175 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,200 I mean, that's why it sounds familiar. 1176 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,200 Yeah. 1177 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,200 Sure. 1178 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:30,240 And jurists in the tradition of scholasticism from the County of Aquino in the kingdom of 1179 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:31,240 Sicily. 1180 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:32,240 Yeah. 1181 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:39,600 He's, he's known within the tradition as the doctor Angelicus, the doctor communists, the 1182 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,240 doctor on new salaries or whatever. 1183 00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,280 Right. 1184 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,000 Interesting. 1185 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,000 Natural theology. 1186 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000 Well, I'm sorry. 1187 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:59,440 I don't get, I mean, I'm sure he was, I mean, I'm, you go does mention him a lot, so he 1188 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,440 was important. 1189 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,720 I think that's why it's more familiar than my Catholic upbringing. 1190 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,880 I think it's more of the philosophy thing. 1191 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,240 I think he's pretty famous. 1192 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,080 Wasn't he the one who I don't remember it. 1193 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:15,120 Cause I also don't remember what I've learned in philosophy from my studies. 1194 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,120 I'm just very study philosophy, but you did. 1195 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,120 Yeah. 1196 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,120 Well, at university, that's nice. 1197 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:28,200 I didn't, I didn't major in philosophy, but I took philosophy classes for like a year 1198 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,200 or more. 1199 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,200 Yes. 1200 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:35,520 I mean, it's all part of, I have a communication degree, so you always learn about theory. 1201 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,560 And so there's a lot of philosophy in that. 1202 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,560 Nice. 1203 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,880 My biggest problem is I never remember names. 1204 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,440 So I'm like, I remember the ideas. 1205 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,440 And then I'm like, what was that? 1206 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,400 Here we go. 1207 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:55,560 Aquinas was a prominent proponent of natural theology and the father of a school of thought 1208 00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,600 encompassing both theology and philosophy known as Tom, Tom ism, he argued God is a 1209 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,160 source of the light of natural reason. 1210 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,160 Oh, we're back to Lucifer. 1211 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,160 Full circle. 1212 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,160 Sorry. 1213 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:14,080 And he argued that God was a source of light, of natural reason and the light of faith. 1214 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,080 Wow. 1215 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,720 It sounds like a real religious type. 1216 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:18,720 So yeah. 1217 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,560 Greatest philosophy, a philosophical medieval philosopher, a theologians. 1218 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,560 Well there we go. 1219 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,560 Yeah. 1220 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,560 He was into God's. 1221 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,560 Anyway, he was into God's. 1222 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,560 Yeah. 1223 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,560 And then somebody got possessed, maybe by Satan. 1224 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,280 Maybe, maybe too much light in that school. 1225 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,280 Sorry, sorry. 1226 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,280 Yeah. 1227 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,880 Just, just try and move on. 1228 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:39,880 Just trying to move on. 1229 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,880 All right. 1230 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,240 I'll give you one more story and then we'll take a break. 1231 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:44,240 Okay. 1232 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:48,680 So this is my last, it's not, this one's not as gruesome, but it's not great. 1233 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,920 It's not your last story, but it's your last, no, the last one before our break. 1234 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,920 Okay. 1235 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,640 And let's see, this happened, this happened recently. 1236 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,160 This happened on Tuesday this week. 1237 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,160 Oh my gosh. 1238 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,520 We're way up to, we're too up to that. 1239 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,520 Way up today. 1240 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,440 This happened on Tuesday. 1241 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:16,560 So there was this woman who went, it was living, living in a flat in San Francisco. 1242 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,200 Our name, well close to our neighborhood. 1243 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,200 Yeah. 1244 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,200 It's a, it's in the, yeah. 1245 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,200 Between our neighborhood. 1246 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,480 And she rented, okay. 1247 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,880 I'll just read you the highlights. 1248 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:29,880 All right. 1249 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,000 So on Tuesday morning, the woman tried to leave the house in order to buy food. 1250 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,720 This is a translation from Google, so I'm reading it directly from the translation, 1251 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:43,840 but when she tried to leave the door was locked and couldn't leave her house. 1252 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,840 Yes. 1253 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,000 A house that she was living and renting. 1254 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,000 Right. 1255 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,480 That she lived with a couple. 1256 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,480 Right. 1257 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,480 Okay. 1258 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:58,920 So they, she had agreed to live in this apartment. 1259 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:05,480 The story is that she agreed to live in this apartment with this couple and have performed 1260 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,480 sex work because apparently that's what they did in this apartment. 1261 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,480 Okay. 1262 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,480 Okay. 1263 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,840 But she was allowed to do that. 1264 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,840 We're saying. 1265 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,840 Right. 1266 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,080 And I think that that was the deal they had with everybody who lived in that apartment. 1267 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,080 Right. 1268 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,600 So there was her place where you could go to one more couple or there's more people 1269 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,600 as well. 1270 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,600 We don't, I don't know. 1271 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,600 Okay. 1272 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,480 It's not clear if there was more people also living in the flat. 1273 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:38,920 So she said, okay, I'll go rent this room from you and I will practice sex work from 1274 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:46,360 this room and I will give you part of the, like as an commission, they would get like 1275 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,360 a, I don't know. 1276 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:54,640 They would get a part of her sales as well as well because they were like allowing it 1277 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,640 to happen. 1278 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,640 The John is a client. 1279 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,920 Who's the guy who a pimp, a pimp. 1280 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,720 He's kind of like the owner is kind of a pimp now. 1281 00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:02,720 Yes. 1282 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:08,200 So like had an apartment that was pretty much set up, I guess, for women to come in and 1283 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,760 out to do sex work and he would get part of the, yeah, a pimp. 1284 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,560 So he'd get part of the money, but it was a couple apparently, not just a man. 1285 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,000 It was a man and a woman. 1286 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,320 So they made this agreement where she was like fine with that. 1287 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,560 Like she was a sex worker. 1288 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:31,740 So she was going to, and then share part of her money and pay rent, I guess. 1289 00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:36,800 But when she went to leave one day to buy food, she went out to go shopping. 1290 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,800 She couldn't leave. 1291 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,800 Oh my gosh. 1292 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,800 Yeah. 1293 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:48,920 And it was locked and she asked them to open the door and they refused to open the door. 1294 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:54,120 So basically they illegally detained her in the place. 1295 00:51:54,120 --> 00:52:03,320 So she ended up calling the police and apparently they had like a, well, an argument about like, 1296 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,120 like, oh, please don't call the cops. 1297 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,120 Let's try to work this out. 1298 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,120 But it was too late. 1299 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,160 The cops were on their way. 1300 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,440 So this couple was then arrested for detaining her illegally. 1301 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,440 Of course. 1302 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,440 I mean, yeah. 1303 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,440 Good. 1304 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,440 Poor woman. 1305 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,440 I know. 1306 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,440 Poor woman. 1307 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,440 I know. 1308 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:28,000 I mean, that's difficult enough a situation to be in. 1309 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,000 Imagine people. 1310 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,000 Yeah. 1311 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,000 Oh my gosh. 1312 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,000 Yeah. 1313 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,000 I mean, and then it gets, yeah. 1314 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,000 Then it's like scared. 1315 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,000 Oh, great. 1316 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,000 Now I'm unsafe. 1317 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,120 I thought I was doing something safe where, you know, I might be in a place where I could 1318 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:47,040 determine who I bring here and how I want to do business. 1319 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,040 Yeah. 1320 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:54,360 And, and then to then be like faced with the situation, like, oh, they're not going to 1321 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,360 let me out. 1322 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,160 Like, oh, so they're going to try to hold me here against my will and try to control 1323 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,160 me somehow. 1324 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,160 That's ridiculous. 1325 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,160 Yeah. 1326 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,160 I mean, I think they got arrested for it. 1327 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,360 So luckily she was able to. 1328 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,360 Good. 1329 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,320 I'm not sure how permanent solution that's going to be. 1330 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,320 It sounds a bit temporary, really. 1331 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,440 Cause it sounds like they're going to get like a slap on the wrist. 1332 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,440 Yeah. 1333 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,440 And they're going to continue to do what they're doing. 1334 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,200 And to somebody else, she's probably going to leave, but hopefully somebody else will 1335 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,200 take her place. 1336 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,200 You know what I mean? 1337 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,200 Yeah. 1338 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,440 I think we have to mention, like, I think, I, I, I think it's similar in most developed 1339 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:39,440 countries, but here it's a very big problem, uh, people trafficking. 1340 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:48,240 And even to the point of where we can confidently call the situation slavery and a lot of situations. 1341 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,720 And there are a lot of cases like that for sex trafficking and in the whole peninsula 1342 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:55,120 in Spain and the vast country. 1343 00:53:55,120 --> 00:54:05,440 And it, that sounds like it's, it's so common to have people in inhumane illegal situations 1344 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:12,280 that this guy kind of was, you know, he, this couple, sorry, felt just like, like they could 1345 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,280 do that. 1346 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,280 They could do that. 1347 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,280 Yeah. 1348 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,160 Cause you know, cause it felt so a lot of times we have for them, right. 1349 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,040 It felt so acceptable in their, in their kind of world, right. 1350 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:29,280 In a way, and I think we have to talk about this a few more, like a couple more topics. 1351 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:35,320 For example, one of the issues is that a lot of those people who are trafficked are from 1352 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,640 third world countries. 1353 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:43,280 And a lot of times either they don't have a passport or the people who traffic them 1354 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,200 are keeping their passport or they're controlling them somehow through paperwork or saying, 1355 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,360 yeah, like that they owe them X amount of money. 1356 00:54:52,360 --> 00:55:02,600 So, you know, all those things are, yeah, very problematic and all probably, even if 1357 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,320 not directly in this case specifically, they're all issues that we're having to deal with 1358 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,320 here. 1359 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,320 Yeah. 1360 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,320 For sure. 1361 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,400 And it's really, really sad. 1362 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,840 So now basically, even though this couple got arrested, she's probably this woman is 1363 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,160 probably still in another shitty position, you know, like now she's got to find somewhere 1364 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,160 else to live. 1365 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:30,480 Well, at least we're, I mean, I'm confident and I'm, I mean, I don't, you know, I can't 1366 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,520 imagine she's in a great place either, even though this all, you know, was resolved. 1367 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:40,520 Like it could have been much worse, obviously, but like she's still not in a great place. 1368 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:46,360 No, cause even if, if, if, if her intention was to just continue with her, you know, what 1369 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,160 she's been doing up till now, it's, it's not that simple to find a place where you're able 1370 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,360 to do sex where safely. 1371 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,360 Yeah. 1372 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,360 Yeah. 1373 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,360 It's safe. 1374 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,360 Yeah. 1375 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,360 Um, yeah. 1376 00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,360 Yeah. 1377 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,880 So that's my, that's the last one of my really harder stories. 1378 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:09,440 I mean, it was lighter than I'm so I'm still, I'm out of death. 1379 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,440 I've still got one more. 1380 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,600 I've still got one more, um, one more. 1381 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,600 It's a scene. 1382 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,600 Okay. 1383 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,600 What do you call it? 1384 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,600 One more death, one more death. 1385 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,600 But before that, let's take a break. 1386 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,600 Okay. 1387 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,320 So it's my turn now. 1388 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,320 Yeah. 1389 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:41,960 Um, the story is that an El Salvador Margaret Chacon Suniga. 1390 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,960 Yeah. 1391 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:51,080 Or, or Suniga. 1392 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,080 Yeah. 1393 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,080 Suniga. 1394 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,560 Yeah. 1395 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,560 Probably in El Salvador it's Suniga. 1396 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,560 Probably. 1397 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,560 Yeah, that's true. 1398 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,560 That's true. 1399 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,640 In any case, I get, let's see if our listeners are starting to tune into the words. 1400 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:14,600 I'm sure they'll, well, they might identify that Suniga is the surname that is Basque. 1401 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,480 Yeah. 1402 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:22,920 And so she is married to, um, Andres Felipe Perez Ollos. 1403 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,920 Okay. 1404 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,680 Is her husband. 1405 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,680 Okay. 1406 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:34,680 And they are accused, both her and her husband, of planning and being involved in paying for 1407 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:40,240 the murder for hire. 1408 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:50,080 Murder for hire of, um, Marcelo Pache, who was, um, Fiscal Paraguayan. 1409 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,520 A prosecutor. 1410 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,520 Is that what he is? 1411 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,520 Fiscal? 1412 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,520 Yeah. 1413 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:55,520 It's prosecutor. 1414 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,520 So that what he is. 1415 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,520 Okay. 1416 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,160 So they were arrested. 1417 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,160 So yes. 1418 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:07,600 The why, so she, they were arrested because they were arrested because they were organizing 1419 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,120 a murder for hire, a murder for hire of a prosecutor. 1420 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:17,280 Uh, the prosecutor is called Marcelo Pache or Pethi or Pache. 1421 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,280 Yeah. 1422 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:23,080 If it's from Italian origin, we assume it's Pache. 1423 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,040 And so that's why she was apprehended in El Salvador. 1424 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,320 But all the, the killing and everything happened in Columbia. 1425 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,640 Oh, so they did kill this guy. 1426 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,640 They did apparently. 1427 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:42,040 And the husband was already in jail and she was fugitive. 1428 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,640 And one of the slippery, it was, it was very slippery. 1429 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,160 I mean, she slipped out of there. 1430 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,080 She's like, honey, you go down for this. 1431 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,780 I'm going to go on holiday. 1432 00:58:56,780 --> 00:58:57,780 So they were, she escaped. 1433 00:58:57,780 --> 00:58:58,780 Yeah. 1434 00:58:58,780 --> 00:58:59,780 She escaped to El Salvador. 1435 00:58:59,780 --> 00:59:03,760 They were from Columbia and then she went in to El Salvador where she was arrested. 1436 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,760 Okay. 1437 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,760 Yeah. 1438 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,760 And she was trying to settle there. 1439 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:13,000 We know this because she was with another man and she was presenting herself as single 1440 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,000 and a housewife. 1441 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,440 Oh, and why, why is the housewife? 1442 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,820 I mean, I just read some, no, no, no, they didn't call her housewife. 1443 00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:31,600 She was presenting herself in El Salvador as the kind of partner to this El Salvador 1444 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,920 and you trying to get nationality or citizenship. 1445 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:36,920 Okay. 1446 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,160 So in this documentation, she presented herself as a housewife. 1447 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,740 Why is that funny? 1448 00:59:42,740 --> 00:59:45,080 Because she only left the country. 1449 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:54,480 I think it was 170 times and they're, they were like, well, where's all this money coming 1450 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,080 from? 1451 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,080 Or you're just a lowly housewife. 1452 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,680 And they were like, well, some housewives have a lot of money with their husband's money, 1453 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,680 right? 1454 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:05,680 For sure. 1455 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:10,480 They can leave the country on holiday, girl trips. 1456 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,680 One of the funniest comments in this story I was reading, I mean, it's not hilarious, 1457 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,120 but she was like, it was like, I, I, and then it was specifying, I don't know if it was 1458 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:25,920 like plane trips or whatever, but it was like out of those 70, none of them were for Columbia. 1459 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,760 They're like that's suspect cause she was going, none of them were from Columbia to 1460 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,500 Columbia from El Salvador. 1461 01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:36,400 So she went everywhere apart from Columbia. 1462 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,440 So you know, that was part of them being suspect. 1463 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,440 Okay. 1464 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:41,440 So let me get this straight. 1465 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:50,000 So she and her husband in Columbia hired someone to murder Marcelo Pichin, a prosecutor from 1466 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,960 Columbia from Columbia. 1467 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,520 And then he was arrested for the crime. 1468 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,520 Yeah. 1469 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,040 And she, meanwhile she took off and went to El Salvador. 1470 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,040 Yeah. 1471 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,040 But both of them just paid. 1472 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,480 I mean, you know, they didn't actually, well, yes, but it's also a crime to hire. 1473 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:10,360 Of course, I'm just highlighting the husband wasn't, you know, there. 1474 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,120 And this was part of our fun discovery. 1475 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,320 We had to Google what 1.5 billion. 1476 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,320 Oh, what they paid us. 1477 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,320 Yeah. 1478 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:24,880 That was, so that's what they paid 1.5 billion pesos, which it turns out is a lot for a hire. 1479 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,560 That's a lot for a murder for hire. 1480 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,560 Well, but it is a prosecutor. 1481 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,400 Yeah, but that's a lot. 1482 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:37,280 So that's 400,000 that for so much less for our listeners, $400,000 us. 1483 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,280 No three. 1484 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:39,280 It was 200, 300,000. 1485 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,280 I thought it was 200,000. 1486 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:51,000 290 something thousand euros, but 400 more or less $400,000 is what the. 1487 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:55,320 That is a lot to pay somebody to hire to murder someone. 1488 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,440 I just, I didn't necessarily say it was one person. 1489 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,280 I think there maybe it was a group of people. 1490 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,840 So you know, I guess murder is getting expensive, Julie. 1491 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,680 Jesus Christ. 1492 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,680 That's a lot. 1493 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,880 I, you know, in all of my true crime. 1494 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,240 Oh, really? 1495 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,840 History like reading about murder for hire and all this stuff. 1496 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,960 Never has it reached 400,000. 1497 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,440 I'm not into the prices. 1498 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,440 Never. 1499 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,440 I think it's a house. 1500 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,640 There are people that murder for $5,000. 1501 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,640 Oh yeah. 1502 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:32,640 Yeah. 1503 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,280 $10,000 is like a good take. 1504 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,280 Yeah. 1505 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,280 But like that, that that's a husband. 1506 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:44,240 Maybe tops I've heard like 20,000, but 400,000 is a fucking lot. 1507 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,480 But that's like, you know, 5,000 is like a husband prosecutor. 1508 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,480 Come on. 1509 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,480 Yes. 1510 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,480 I guess that's high profile. 1511 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,320 It would be a high profile case. 1512 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:54,320 So he's got security. 1513 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:55,320 Yeah. 1514 01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:02,320 But Jesus Christ, I've never heard that in my whole life. 1515 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,320 No. 1516 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,320 And I've read a lot about this stuff. 1517 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,720 I mean, that's what Google said. 1518 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,720 Wow. 1519 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:13,880 But but they were saying that 1.5 billion was all the money involved. 1520 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,080 You know, they didn't say so. 1521 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:27,320 There were no eight months after the killing, there were no clarity about who the intellectual 1522 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,560 authors were. 1523 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:35,520 But they knew that there were coordination between various countries and there was more 1524 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,160 than 1.5 billion pesos. 1525 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,160 Involved in a crime. 1526 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,160 Yeah. 1527 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,160 They saw. 1528 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,160 Wow. 1529 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:52,520 So they were like they were handed over more than 1.5 billion in Colombian pesos. 1530 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,520 Yeah. 1531 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,520 Because it's me. 1532 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,720 So I get confused because they say 1,000 million, which is a bill. 1533 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,720 That's a billion. 1534 01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,720 That's a billion. 1535 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,720 Yeah. 1536 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,720 Millions is a billion in English. 1537 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,520 Believe me, it's not a billion. 1538 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,520 No, I know. 1539 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,520 I know. 1540 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,080 And there's good and because then there you go. 1541 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,640 So we didn't go a lot into this. 1542 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,920 I'm sure there's political motivation, right? 1543 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,320 Because I'm so little confused about the story. 1544 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,320 So tell me. 1545 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,800 So she OK, so she's married this guy. 1546 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,400 They hired somebody to kill many people to kill this one prosecutor. 1547 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,600 They put a lot of money into it. 1548 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,640 Yeah, obviously. 1549 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,200 And then she went to El Salvador. 1550 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,200 He got caught, right? 1551 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,200 He got caught and arrested. 1552 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,200 She or the crime. 1553 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,200 She disappeared. 1554 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,200 She took off. 1555 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:45,480 She fled the country and went to El Salvador and presented as a housewife. 1556 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:51,120 The thing is and what brought her down was like that her her status, like when they looked 1557 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,000 into her back when she was trying to get Ecuadorian. 1558 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,800 No, not Ecuador. 1559 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,720 El Salvadorian nationality. 1560 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,120 Yeah, they were looking at her flight history. 1561 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,120 Exactly. 1562 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,120 Exactly. 1563 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,040 Ma'am, you're not presenting who you really are. 1564 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,040 Yeah. 1565 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,040 Sort of thing. 1566 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:16,840 Because the first story that I came across is kind of saying like, you know, Interpol 1567 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:22,440 has has, you know, come has. 1568 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,440 Looking for her. 1569 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,440 Yeah. 1570 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:36,440 So Gustavo Vietoro, the minister for justice and public safety in El Salvador and Interpol 1571 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:42,760 have confirmed the capture of the woman who was the wife of Andres Felipe Perez Hoyos. 1572 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:49,680 And they're highlighting that the president of El Salvador is insisting that they're not 1573 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,000 like refuge for criminals. 1574 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,360 And so it feels like they knew this woman was there somehow. 1575 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,480 And they were like, oh, you don't want to extradite her through Interpol. 1576 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,120 And so apparently this was a bit of a process. 1577 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:10,160 And so because the president had to come out and say, I'm not we're not like refuge for 1578 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:17,520 criminals, it appears like he was either blindsiding them for some time and not answering or maybe 1579 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,280 looking like a refuge for criminals for some time. 1580 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:25,080 But apparently he's, you know, apparently come out and said, no, we're not going to 1581 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,280 be a refuge for criminals. 1582 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,560 So it's kind of it looks like he had to defend himself because she was there. 1583 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,160 It appears she was there too long. 1584 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:41,200 Interpol and whoever else was looking El Salvadorian or Colombian authorities were looking for 1585 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,880 her and found her in El Salvador. 1586 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,880 And then El Salvador had to come out and say, like, no, no, no, we're not trying to hide 1587 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,880 exactly this person. 1588 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:49,880 It seems like that. 1589 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:55,160 And through this process, you know, I mean, you know, they didn't know initially that 1590 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,600 she was a criminal, but that comes out. 1591 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:04,520 I'm curious about the whole thing, like how is she presenting as a housewife? 1592 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:09,960 So the thing was one of the another person was taken into custody, which was her, her 1593 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,840 supposed partner in El Salvador. 1594 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:19,640 OK, so he was presenting as her partner and she was presenting him as her partner. 1595 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,720 And so she wanted to get papers. 1596 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,080 So through him, she was trying to get papers to be a citizen. 1597 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,080 Yeah. 1598 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,200 So she was at least legally settled. 1599 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,280 And it turns out she was a criminal in Colombia. 1600 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,280 A good criminal. 1601 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,280 Yeah, not a convict. 1602 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:36,280 She wasn't convict yet. 1603 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,280 No, but yeah, yeah. 1604 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,280 A person of interest. 1605 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,280 I don't know. 1606 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,280 What would you call it? 1607 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,280 Escape fugitive suspect. 1608 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,280 Something like that. 1609 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,280 Yeah. 1610 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,280 So Suniga is the surname. 1611 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,280 I don't know the origin. 1612 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,280 So I look into that or. 1613 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,280 I don't know. 1614 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,280 I don't know. 1615 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,280 I don't know. 1616 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,280 I don't know. 1617 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,280 I don't know. 1618 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,280 I don't know. 1619 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,280 I don't know. 1620 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,280 I don't know. 1621 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,280 I don't know. 1622 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,280 I don't know. 1623 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,280 I don't know. 1624 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,280 I don't know. 1625 01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,280 I don't know. 1626 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,280 I don't know. 1627 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,280 So I look into that, or are we good with this? 1628 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,280 Sure. 1629 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,280 Why not. 1630 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,280 Let's have a quick check. 1631 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,280 Where does that name come from? 1632 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,280 It's kind of an unusual. 1633 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,280 I'm not sure we're going to find it. 1634 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:15,560 I tell you, when I went to Shout Out to Liberia Camera in Bilbao. 1635 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,480 Oh, did you get anything about. 1636 01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:23,960 It's one of the oldest bookstores, bookshops in Bilbao. 1637 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:29,200 And I was in there, I don't know, a few months ago, I think it was probably over Christmas 1638 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:35,640 time looking for gifts and stuff, but ended up finding a few crime books. 1639 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:41,720 And one of the books I found was in alphabetical list, all Basque surnames. 1640 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,720 It's very best to be so organized. 1641 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:51,000 And I was like, should I buy this book just to have every single Basque name listed? 1642 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,280 Oh, it was just for surname. 1643 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,280 It was all surnames. 1644 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,280 It's just all surnames. 1645 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,280 I thought you meant like criminal. 1646 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:04,080 No, I found some crime books with the Basque Country, but I also saw this book that was 1647 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,480 just Basque surnames. 1648 01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:07,480 I mean, that's beautiful. 1649 01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:11,120 I mean, there's a lot of for the pod. 1650 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,240 There is a lot of online resources in general, but I am. 1651 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,240 Yeah, there is. 1652 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,240 Yeah, there is. 1653 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,680 But I do look up brand born. 1654 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,400 It was a pretty thick book, too. 1655 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,840 So there's a lot of surnames for sure. 1656 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,040 This first found in Navarre. 1657 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,760 OK, Navarre. 1658 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:32,200 If a surname is very small, it's very hard to find reasonable information about it because, 1659 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:37,680 you know, sometimes there's just like 100, 300 people with that surname, especially. 1660 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,680 Yeah. 1661 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,800 Here we go. 1662 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,760 Habitational name from the place in Navarre named Sunia. 1663 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,360 That's nice and easy. 1664 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,040 Always for a place. 1665 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,200 From Basque Swin cultivated land, a field, sorry. 1666 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,080 Swin means cultivated land. 1667 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:03,160 I mean, I don't recognize that name, so it might be old Basque or maybe Basque in Navarre. 1668 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,800 Yeah, it could be. 1669 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,520 But I don't recognize it as a name in Basque today. 1670 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,160 It's not like my Basque is that good anyway. 1671 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:16,080 But Cultivated Field and Iga, which is means an inclined slope. 1672 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,920 And I can see that ego is to climb. 1673 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:26,280 So it makes sense that Iga would be so a cultivated, sloppy that is on an incline. 1674 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:27,880 That's where that family was. 1675 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,440 Damn on a slopey field. 1676 01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:34,920 So Miss Sloppy Fields was apprehended. 1677 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:35,920 Good. 1678 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:43,220 Well, she I mean, it's actually like with that amount of money that she paid for this 1679 01:10:43,220 --> 01:10:44,920 murder, these crimes are high. 1680 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,840 I can't believe she didn't get away with it. 1681 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:47,840 Right. 1682 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:48,840 That kind of fucking funding. 1683 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:49,840 Yeah. 1684 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,480 Behind her that she wasn't able to get away with it. 1685 01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:52,480 Yeah. 1686 01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:53,480 She got into Asia with that amount of money. 1687 01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:54,480 Right. 1688 01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:55,480 Go to Asia. 1689 01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:56,480 Don't stick around in South America. 1690 01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:57,480 Hit it, baby. 1691 01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:58,480 How did she get caught? 1692 01:10:58,480 --> 01:10:59,480 She had so much resource. 1693 01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:00,480 Yeah, she had so many resources. 1694 01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:01,480 Clearly. 1695 01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:02,480 170 trips everywhere. 1696 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:03,480 It's just an idiot criminal. 1697 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:04,480 They deserve to be caught. 1698 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:05,480 Yeah, they do. 1699 01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:06,480 They do. 1700 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:07,480 It's not like if they were intelligent about it, we'd be happy. 1701 01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:08,480 But Jesus. 1702 01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:09,480 No, but I mean, with that amount of money, it's not like they were intelligent about it. 1703 01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:10,480 They deserve to be caught. 1704 01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:11,480 Yeah, they do. 1705 01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:12,480 They do. 1706 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,480 It's not like if they were intelligent about it, we'd be happy. 1707 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:16,480 But Jesus. 1708 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:20,920 No, but I mean, with that amount of money, it's just insane that they don't get away 1709 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:21,920 with it. 1710 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,920 Anyway. 1711 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,480 Yeah, that's that's not here nor there. 1712 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:25,480 They should be caught. 1713 01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:26,480 Obviously. 1714 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,800 It's good that they were caught. 1715 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,800 They found her. 1716 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:30,800 That's great. 1717 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,800 I didn't say that. 1718 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,000 Shout out to all the good Sunni guys out there. 1719 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,000 Yeah. 1720 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,000 Yes, of course. 1721 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,760 Don't let this don't put this crime taint your name. 1722 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,120 No, you're all about the good stuff. 1723 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,640 So you have a good story now. 1724 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,160 OK, so let's go more lighthearted. 1725 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,160 All right. 1726 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,160 Yeah, shall we? 1727 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:55,080 That's well, well, OK, I'm going to go with this story that's not lighthearted, but it's 1728 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,240 not as devastating. 1729 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,720 It's just an accident. 1730 01:11:58,720 --> 01:11:59,720 OK. 1731 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,680 And more of a health and safety. 1732 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:10,520 I was thinking because, you know, it's March going into April that I started cleaning up 1733 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,520 our terrace. 1734 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,880 Spring cleaning time. 1735 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,480 You start cleaning, you start planting things and open cupboards. 1736 01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:21,840 Yeah, you try to, you know, plant stuff for start to be growing. 1737 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,840 Right. 1738 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:27,360 This poor man, a 65 year old man died yesterday. 1739 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,360 When was this? 1740 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,840 Twenty nine days at thirty first. 1741 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:37,840 So two days ago, two days ago, sixty five year old man died two days ago when a tree 1742 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:44,240 fell on him when he was trying to prune his trees and fell on him. 1743 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,240 That's unlucky. 1744 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,720 Gee, I know. 1745 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,080 This is in San Sebastian. 1746 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,320 He was just pruning his trees and the tree fell on him. 1747 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:57,200 So the tree is the one that committed the crime. 1748 01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,400 That is poor guy. 1749 01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,400 So sad. 1750 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,360 I know. 1751 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,640 Like I think about these types of things all the time. 1752 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,040 You know, when you get older, you start thinking about like the weird things that will kill 1753 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,040 you. 1754 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,040 You just out prune. 1755 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,040 Can be anything. 1756 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,040 It could be anything at this point. 1757 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,040 Could be a glass of water. 1758 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:20,280 Falling out of the shower, you know, like tell me about these things. 1759 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,800 So yeah, this poor guy, 65. 1760 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:29,400 So he's probably like just retired, finally retired from his working life, just trying 1761 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,360 to make his garden beautiful so he could just chill out there. 1762 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:37,760 Enjoy his life and poor guy killed by his own tree. 1763 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,960 Man, that is sad. 1764 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:40,960 I know. 1765 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,960 I know. 1766 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:42,960 Also not as gory. 1767 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,960 No, no, but just fatalistically. 1768 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,440 Yeah. 1769 01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:51,200 And then, OK, I have another story that's also like timely for right now. 1770 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,200 Oh, yeah. 1771 01:13:52,200 --> 01:14:02,240 So we are coming up on spring break, but the spring break here is all connected to. 1772 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,240 Easter. 1773 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,240 Oh, right. 1774 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,240 You're right. 1775 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,240 Yes. 1776 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,240 I mean, I tried to ignore it, but you're right. 1777 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:12,480 I always call it spring break because I try to like get rid of the religious religious 1778 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:14,360 aspect of it. 1779 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,960 So literally we're being we have time off because it's Easter holiday. 1780 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:18,960 Right. 1781 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,620 It is true. 1782 01:14:20,620 --> 01:14:27,440 So in Bama Seda, which they're getting geared up for their living passion of Christ. 1783 01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:28,440 Oh, my gosh. 1784 01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:29,440 His reputation. 1785 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:36,000 Yes, so if anybody's ever been here during Easter, it's not so it's a lot of weird things 1786 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,800 happening very, very not so. 1787 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:44,560 And as an American, when I first came here and there were these parades during Easter, 1788 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,240 everybody looks as if they are. 1789 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:48,240 Cluck's Cluck's plan. 1790 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:49,240 Member KKK. 1791 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,600 Yeah, that's what you heard. 1792 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:52,840 That is what they're wearing. 1793 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:58,600 Like they're wearing robes with the comb hoods and it's super free. 1794 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,920 Summer in white, summer, white, summer, black, summer, red, purple. 1795 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,080 There's all sorts of colors, but it's fucking freaky. 1796 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,080 It's weird. 1797 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:08,080 Yeah. 1798 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:15,480 And let us just, you know, for the sake of historical accuracy, the KKK did inspire the 1799 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:17,240 was inspired by by them. 1800 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,880 Like so by these Christian. 1801 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:20,880 Yeah. 1802 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,880 Mm hmm. 1803 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:22,880 Like their processions. 1804 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:30,640 I, you know, because of this relationship with the KKK, I was like, I've never looked 1805 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,240 into why they put some cones on their heads. 1806 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,360 Like why they're why they're disguised. 1807 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,680 Why are you disguised? 1808 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,680 Yeah. 1809 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:45,720 Like one of the aspects like which is weird as hell because I used to live like seven 1810 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,840 years or so on Cortez Street. 1811 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,120 Cortez is where there is a procession. 1812 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,800 The most famous procession in Bobao. 1813 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,280 And for context, I think it's necessary for context. 1814 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,160 It's one of the how can we describe it? 1815 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,160 Wait a minute. 1816 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:09,320 There's a few layers of I think context that we need, which is first is one of the toughest 1817 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,320 neighborhoods in Bobao. 1818 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,320 Yeah. 1819 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:19,280 And that goes connected with the fact that there's a lot of sex work, a lot of immigrants 1820 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:25,080 for centuries, at least a couple in the sense that there have has been a lot of immigration 1821 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,160 from Spain. 1822 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,000 And that's part of why the procession is there. 1823 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,300 And what happens there? 1824 01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:32,380 Why do I say this? 1825 01:16:32,380 --> 01:16:39,320 Because there is a tradition in Andalusia of singing to the saints that is being carried 1826 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:47,280 by the group of processing people, you know, and that either a saint or Christ or something, 1827 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,800 you know, marry somebody important for them and they'll go down. 1828 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,640 And in this case, I know that there's a Christ that goes down. 1829 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:55,640 It's correct. 1830 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,040 Well, because I don't know, does it all? 1831 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,400 I know it's yeah, I believe Easter. 1832 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,400 I believe you. 1833 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:06,880 I let's when Jesus died, he was crucified and then he came back to life. 1834 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,880 I know that elements of the procession is about his crucifixion. 1835 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,320 I think I think it's all it's all in that area, right? 1836 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,000 He was so divided and came back to life. 1837 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,200 Those are the days of Easter. 1838 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,200 Right? 1839 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,200 Yeah. 1840 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:28,840 The interesting thing in my interpretation of it is I live in this very conflictive street, 1841 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,640 which is usually let's just say a little bit dirty because it's not, you know, super downtown. 1842 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,840 And now they're keeping it a little bit cleaner. 1843 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,080 But you know, the about his high standards of cleanliness. 1844 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,080 They really do. 1845 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,080 Why is this important? 1846 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,520 This is actually I'm not mentioning this for no reason. 1847 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,680 It's because you know this. 1848 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,040 It's not only adults that do this procession. 1849 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:58,800 It's a lot of children and they go barefoot barefoot on this asphalt street that has had 1850 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,600 a lot of drug people. 1851 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,080 Or glass, everything, everything, dog shit. 1852 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,080 There's like they do clean it before the procession. 1853 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,080 They do. 1854 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,280 They come through with people. 1855 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:17,560 Before we shot before we shot everybody, they do come through with the here. 1856 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,560 What do you call it? 1857 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,920 Bleach, bleach and they bleach everything, you know, and they scrub everything to some 1858 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:24,920 extent. 1859 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:33,240 But yeah, it's like to watch these kids with the little cone hats. 1860 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,440 I know it's freaky as hell. 1861 01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:41,920 So I was I know, you know, it was so much shocking shit that I never really cared about 1862 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,080 why there was a cone on their head. 1863 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,760 So I get that the no food, no thing on your feet, right? 1864 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,680 You're going to suffer with Christ. 1865 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,040 But the cone, you know, yeah, I don't get it. 1866 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,040 But yeah, all the cleanliness is say they go barefoot. 1867 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,040 A lot of them. 1868 01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,040 Yeah. 1869 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,920 So this in Balmaceva is where they take it to the next level. 1870 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:02,920 Right. 1871 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:03,920 So this is the story. 1872 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,920 They're all like they're all like gearing up for. 1873 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:14,040 So in Balmaceva, which is in Biscay, which is I don't know, it's not that far from Bilbao. 1874 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,040 It's what? 1875 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,040 I don't know. 1876 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,040 Just west from here. 1877 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,040 Yeah. 1878 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:25,080 And it's they have one of the processions that are most popular because they reenact 1879 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:31,680 the whole crucifixion, including with people literally flagellating themselves with the 1880 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,040 yak and barefoot. 1881 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,040 What straight range? 1882 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,040 No, the razors. 1883 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,040 Yeah. 1884 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:40,840 They cut themselves with razor sometimes. 1885 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,000 Oh, Jesus Christ. 1886 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,880 I thought they were just flatulating, you know, like, yeah, but what do you flagellate 1887 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,840 with razors onto their back? 1888 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,840 I mean, not in America. 1889 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:49,840 There's a lot of places. 1890 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:50,840 I don't know. 1891 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,680 I don't know if that's what they're doing in Balmaceva, but maybe it is. 1892 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,000 I've heard that it's quite we haven't actually gone. 1893 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,120 Douglas and I have not seen it firsthand. 1894 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,480 We've heard a lot about it and we know that it is a big deal and that there are like thousands 1895 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:07,680 of visitors that go every year to watch. 1896 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,880 And we know there's blood and there's tickets and like real blood. 1897 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:11,880 Yes. 1898 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:12,880 People are. 1899 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:13,880 However, they beat themselves. 1900 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:18,200 Yeah, they beat themselves until they're so they basically reenact the whole passion 1901 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,200 of Christ or whatever. 1902 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,200 Exactly. 1903 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,960 So so they're gearing up for that. 1904 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,120 So I thought that was appropriate for this week. 1905 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,480 You're up to that. 1906 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:30,800 So it'll be a little bit late when this comes out. 1907 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:31,800 But OK. 1908 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:41,080 So the story is like every Easter Balmaceva is the scene of a living stations of the cross. 1909 01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,080 Right. 1910 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,680 So each part of the there's a reenactment. 1911 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,320 There's stages, I guess. 1912 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:59,160 So 700 people participate in this tradition and it's been maintained for centuries. 1913 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:05,520 So despite the fact that some authors date its origins to 1480, the year in which plague 1914 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,840 epidemic devastated the town, there's no documentary confirmation of the existence of this representation 1915 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:15,400 until 1771 when the processions of Easter and Corpus Christi. 1916 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:16,400 OK. 1917 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:24,400 So that's officially, I guess, documented of when they started doing this whole reenactment. 1918 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:32,440 So in the 19th century, new elements such as the penance or Nazarenes or the parishes 1919 01:21:32,440 --> 01:21:36,920 or the soldiers of the Roman Guard were introduced, which became one of the most characteristic 1920 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,720 elements to this day. 1921 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:43,240 In this last decade, the 19th century, the top character by definition of Holy Week, 1922 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:51,640 the Nazareno or Jesus Christ is mentioned for the first time. 1923 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,440 It is from this moment that one can speak of a living representation of the passion 1924 01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:57,220 of Jesus Christ. 1925 01:21:57,220 --> 01:22:03,280 In 1963, what is undoubtedly the peak moment of each staging was incorporated, the crucifixion. 1926 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:10,520 So all that was like Google translated to from a web page I found about this, like where 1927 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,760 you could buy tickets to watch this thing. 1928 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:13,760 The reenactment. 1929 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:14,760 Yes. 1930 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:15,760 So there you go. 1931 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:16,760 It's intense. 1932 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:17,760 It's very intense. 1933 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,760 It's super intense. 1934 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:19,760 OK. 1935 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:26,640 So you're just mentioning that that happens and that people which I see as a crime because 1936 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,760 it's just not so. 1937 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,440 First of all, that there are crime of logic. 1938 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:32,440 I don't know. 1939 01:22:32,440 --> 01:22:34,040 Like, I don't know why I see it as a crime. 1940 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,160 It's always shocked me to see these. 1941 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,520 I'll tell you what I tell you what as it has you. 1942 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,520 Right. 1943 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,440 I look like they're part of the Cook What's Plan. 1944 01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:44,360 I'll tell you what walking through town like that is shocking. 1945 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:45,360 Very shocking. 1946 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:50,760 Although I also understand we can have points of view that color our impression. 1947 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,480 And obviously I'm an American. 1948 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:54,520 So those to me, that's like shocking. 1949 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:59,200 Those grown up people have the right to express their religion however they want. 1950 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:03,480 And I totally support that sort of as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. 1951 01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:05,480 But that's that's the line. 1952 01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:09,240 And I think, you know, I didn't know that you didn't have a specific problem against 1953 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,240 it, but I'm happy to say I don't take your kids. 1954 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:18,080 I just taking your kid barefoot on court is is a fucking crime. 1955 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,200 Yeah, it's what it is. 1956 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,320 And I think it's a crime to bring up a child. 1957 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,120 And now now I might burn half of our listeners in the US. 1958 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:33,640 But I'm just like, I don't think it's OK to make your child your religion. 1959 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,660 I think it's a child's choice to choose their religion. 1960 01:23:37,660 --> 01:23:42,400 And when you get to the point where you're making them walk barefoot on freaking disgusting 1961 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:47,280 asphalt in the middle of town, that for me is a bit of an abuse. 1962 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:52,720 So of course, it's not like that kid's got to be adopted, but kind of abuse. 1963 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:57,000 But it's still like that's way too much than I would accept from my parents. 1964 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:02,800 I mean, I would if I could divorce my parents the moment they told me to do that, I would 1965 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,200 like that's kind of how I feel. 1966 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:10,420 You know, like I don't think it's it's it's you know, it's they're not like abusive, 1967 01:24:10,420 --> 01:24:13,960 but it is psychologically unfair and not OK. 1968 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,640 Well, I mean, I think it's normal that you raise your kids in your own religion. 1969 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:18,640 Everybody does it. 1970 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:19,640 Yeah. 1971 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:24,440 But it doesn't I don't think it's even like walking on a dirty street is not criminal 1972 01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:32,720 in my in my in my opinion, because I mean, my parents let me do I was allowed to walk 1973 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:38,360 barefoot, but that's different to saying now you're going to walk barefoot, right? 1974 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,360 Yeah. 1975 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,360 Yeah. 1976 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,560 I mean, I think that's for the for the passion of Christ. 1977 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:43,560 Exactly. 1978 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:49,880 It's like I didn't choose myself to like they said, OK, my parents did let us choose at 1979 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:55,120 some they raised us up to a point and then they let us choose if we wanted to stay in 1980 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:56,120 the religion. 1981 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,120 What? 1982 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,120 Yeah. 1983 01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,120 Sure. 1984 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,120 As as minors. 1985 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,120 So that was good. 1986 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:02,120 It was good for my parents. 1987 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,020 Like I I respect my parents for that. 1988 01:25:04,020 --> 01:25:11,040 So I understand parents want to raise their kids in their religion. 1989 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:16,440 But yeah, you can see how you can see it being child abuse to walk down court. 1990 01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:17,440 Yeah. 1991 01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:26,320 I mean, I'm Buddhist and I'm gay, so I don't think it's acceptable for people to impose 1992 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,600 their expectations on my sexuality just as much as I don't expect them to. 1993 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,680 You know, I don't expect to be imposed. 1994 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,960 I mean, I expect I will be and I was. 1995 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:37,960 That's natural. 1996 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,240 It's what has happened. 1997 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:40,240 But I don't think it's OK. 1998 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,600 I think it should stop. 1999 01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:47,240 We shouldn't be imposing either our sexuality or our religion on our children. 2000 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,240 Right. 2001 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,240 That's my just my principle. 2002 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:55,240 And it's probably because I'm neither the religion of my parents or the sexuality of 2003 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:56,240 my parents. 2004 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,680 I mean, it's the same for every gay person. 2005 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,480 But that just makes me more sensitive to those issues, I guess. 2006 01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:02,480 Yeah. 2007 01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:08,080 I guess the crime here is I don't know what the crime is. 2008 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,680 What is a 10 percent possibility that kid, I guess, is gay. 2009 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:12,680 Yeah, I guess. 2010 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:18,640 Which may be iconography, you know, like the oh, there's robes and everything now makes 2011 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,640 me freaked out. 2012 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,120 Now, there's as an American, it makes me freaked out. 2013 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:26,000 There's there's some things that I like and I think is going to freak you out. 2014 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:32,880 And then the self-flagellation in public is weird to me. 2015 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:33,880 It is. 2016 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,880 And imagine if your dad is like going himself in front of you like a thousand, you know, 2017 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,080 a thousand people or more go to watch this thing in Balacera. 2018 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:47,520 And it's actually a person whipping themselves with perhaps razors, as you said. 2019 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,540 The reason now I make themselves bleed. 2020 01:26:49,540 --> 01:26:51,280 I know they do that in South America. 2021 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:52,280 Definitely in Brazil. 2022 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,640 There's lots of places where people use razors. 2023 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,120 And it's the same. 2024 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,520 I know that it is the Christ thing. 2025 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,360 So like people are bleeding and stuff. 2026 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:01,360 Yeah, exactly. 2027 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:06,360 Or they actually put like a crown of thorns on the head and they actually cut them and 2028 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:07,360 bleed. 2029 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,360 And yeah, which to me is just crazy. 2030 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:12,360 Or is it just passion? 2031 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:13,360 I don't know. 2032 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,360 Fun facts. 2033 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:15,360 What? 2034 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:20,440 Which I was going to mention a bit is that, do you know, the hair of Christ? 2035 01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:22,560 Has been found. 2036 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:23,560 The statue. 2037 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,760 No, no, no, no. 2038 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:34,240 The Christ statue that goes down in the Cortes procession has long big black hair. 2039 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,560 It's from like Arabic hair. 2040 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,680 It's from sex workers. 2041 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:43,960 They from Cortes, they donated their hair for Christ for the statue. 2042 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:44,960 Yeah. 2043 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:49,200 For the the the the what do you call the statue in Cortes? 2044 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:50,200 Don't they? 2045 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,760 Isn't the tradition that they sing to? 2046 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,160 They stand on the balconies and they sing as the procession. 2047 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:57,520 All that comes from Mendeleev. 2048 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,480 And it's all sex workers that do it. 2049 01:27:59,480 --> 01:28:02,480 Like traditionally, like the brothels are all singing to him. 2050 01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:03,480 The women who sing. 2051 01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:05,440 That's why they go down Cortes. 2052 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:07,200 Yes, exactly. 2053 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,800 Because Christ was a friend of the sex workers. 2054 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:11,800 Yeah. 2055 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,800 What's the name? 2056 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:13,800 Magdalene. 2057 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,360 Is there excuse? 2058 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:16,840 I think they're just being sexist. 2059 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:21,760 But she probably spoke to men and that's why she was a fucking bitch. 2060 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:27,480 She said, hey, you don't speak to me. 2061 01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:28,480 Sex worker. 2062 01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:29,480 Yeah. 2063 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,120 Anyway, enough disparaging Christians. 2064 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,120 I'm sorry. 2065 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,120 I'm sorry. 2066 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,360 You believe in whatever you want. 2067 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,360 Exactly. 2068 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:42,360 Anyway, these religious traditions, they're just funny. 2069 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,360 Wow. 2070 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,360 That's the best. 2071 01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:45,360 Anyway, yeah, spring breaks coming. 2072 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:46,360 Yeah. 2073 01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,360 Which means we're going to see some processions. 2074 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,360 KKK. 2075 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,080 Not really. 2076 01:28:52,080 --> 01:29:00,400 We know it's a religious expression and it's super fun when visitors come, right? 2077 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:01,400 Yeah. 2078 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,360 To be like, check this shit out. 2079 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,640 Look at our traditions we have in our crazy city. 2080 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,240 You've got to come visit, guys. 2081 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:10,240 You got to see this. 2082 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,760 Nobody will believe what I'm telling you. 2083 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,920 It's okay to get your picture with a group of KKK guys here. 2084 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,280 I mean, you say they're KKK. 2085 01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,320 Maybe this year we should try to get a picture. 2086 01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:27,160 We'll put it on the on the Instagram. 2087 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:28,760 Not Christian enough, Julie. 2088 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:29,760 You're Christian. 2089 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:30,760 You at least you're brought up Christian. 2090 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:31,760 I'm not Christian. 2091 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:32,760 At least you're brought up. 2092 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:33,760 You just said. 2093 01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,960 I was brought up Catholic, but I'm not Catholic. 2094 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,960 But that's Christian. 2095 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:37,960 I'm recovering Catholic. 2096 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,960 I'm not even Christian. 2097 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:46,160 Anyway, anyway, we'll see. 2098 01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:53,760 Okay, so last year. 2099 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:54,760 Yeah. 2100 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:55,760 No, there's two. 2101 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:56,760 Okay. 2102 01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,360 Well, this one little stories. 2103 01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:59,360 Yeah. 2104 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:05,720 So apparently more and more restaurants and bars are buying their platos, their dishes. 2105 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:06,720 Yes, that's a crime. 2106 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:07,720 And their pizza. 2107 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:08,720 That's a crime. 2108 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:09,720 That's a crime. 2109 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:10,720 Oh, my gosh. 2110 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:17,480 And their plates are their dishes from external kitchens. 2111 01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:18,480 Yeah. 2112 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:19,480 Right. 2113 01:30:19,480 --> 01:30:20,480 So pre cooked pre cooked meals. 2114 01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:21,480 Oh, my gosh. 2115 01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:22,480 Yep. 2116 01:30:22,480 --> 01:30:24,480 There's a major crime in this country. 2117 01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:25,480 These are called. 2118 01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:26,480 Yeah. 2119 01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:28,480 These are called fifth range foods. 2120 01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:33,760 Kinta gamma is what they refer to them as, which is cooked, packaged and ready to be 2121 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:34,760 consumed. 2122 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:35,760 Yeah. 2123 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,520 It's like, yeah, heat and you have to heat it up. 2124 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:39,520 Yeah. 2125 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,000 So this is a video that I watched. 2126 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,120 So I watched the video and then I took notes. 2127 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,120 Right. 2128 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:50,400 So for example, they gave the example of Carrieras, which are beef cheeks. 2129 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,400 Yes. 2130 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:52,400 Right. 2131 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:58,920 So to make a good dish of Carrieras, it requires 17 hours in the oven. 2132 01:30:58,920 --> 01:30:59,920 Ridiculous. 2133 01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:00,920 Yeah. 2134 01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:02,920 That's a long time. 2135 01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:03,920 Right. 2136 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:04,920 It's a lot of electricity. 2137 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,640 A lot of electricity, a lot of suspense. 2138 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:08,640 Yeah. 2139 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,840 And, you know, who's going to show up 17 hours before lunch. 2140 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:13,840 Right. 2141 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:14,840 To start a process. 2142 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,840 That's asking a lot of your employees. 2143 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,840 You have to watch that. 2144 01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,040 Listen, you're a cook here and you're going to have to start it. 2145 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,240 Well, I suppose you could start it. 2146 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:30,200 OK, at the end of one shift, you could put it in the oven and then go home. 2147 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,000 But then that's leaving the oven going. 2148 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,000 Health and safety is a problem. 2149 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,000 Exactly. 2150 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,000 You can't leave an oven on all night. 2151 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:36,000 Just on all night. 2152 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,000 Yeah. 2153 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,400 There's going to be at least one guy there. 2154 01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:40,400 Yeah. 2155 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:46,400 So, so, yeah, more and more, more and more places around the city are doing this. 2156 01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,400 Yeah. 2157 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:48,400 And in the Basque Country in general. 2158 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,400 Yeah. 2159 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,400 Yeah. 2160 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:55,880 So of course, there's a big backlash because the idea behind the pinchos and dishes that 2161 01:31:55,880 --> 01:32:04,160 are Basque traditional foods are that these particular bars make a particular dish, like 2162 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:09,240 a dish or a version of this dish in their own particular way. 2163 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:10,240 Right. 2164 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:11,240 Yeah. 2165 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:18,280 So, yeah, like it's always about good quality ingredients, fresh ingredients, kind of standardized, 2166 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,880 homogenized, boringized. 2167 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:21,880 Yeah. 2168 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:27,280 So it's kind of a sad because you can't like you lose if you just everybody gets coming 2169 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:28,840 so touristy that. 2170 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:38,120 So the number one number one kind of red flag for us in the bar was when we started seeing 2171 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:43,400 all the tortillas become bought tortillas from a third kitchen. 2172 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,400 Right. 2173 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,600 So you'd get all these standard potato tortillas. 2174 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:53,000 I hope everybody well, you don't know what have we tortillas in a Basque country is not 2175 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,040 a tortilla and in Mexico, Latin America. 2176 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:57,040 Yeah. 2177 01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,640 Well, no, Latin America doesn't have to do this. 2178 01:32:58,640 --> 01:32:59,640 It's only Mexico. 2179 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,760 Oh, I didn't know that. 2180 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:07,360 So a tortilla in well, I mean, I think they might call like omelets, tortillas in Latin 2181 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:12,300 America, but it's not the Mexican tortilla or the potato tortilla. 2182 01:33:12,300 --> 01:33:19,480 So what we call tortilla here in a Basque country is you fry some potatoes and then 2183 01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:26,980 you beat some eggs, obviously, salt, etc. pepper, mix them in with the fried already 2184 01:33:26,980 --> 01:33:30,520 fried potatoes and then fry that mixture. 2185 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:34,960 And that's a big thick omelet with potatoes and an egg. 2186 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:35,960 Right. 2187 01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:36,960 That's the basic recipe. 2188 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,960 That's the tortilla. 2189 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:38,960 Yeah. 2190 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,360 A lot of times it will include onions, but there's a lot of people that don't like the 2191 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:43,360 onions. 2192 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,240 So there's also a tortilla without the onions and obviously with cheese with ham with everything 2193 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,940 you want inside. 2194 01:33:48,940 --> 01:33:54,280 So there's also another thing which is the EU. 2195 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:59,600 The law that you are not allowed to have raw egg in any foods. 2196 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,080 That's like against the EU. 2197 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:07,400 But of course, because as you know, like with pinchos, like they sit out on the bar for 2198 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:08,840 an extended period of time. 2199 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,640 Well, but that's not why they prohibited. 2200 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,840 They prohibited eggs for everything in the whole EU. 2201 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:19,040 Well, because it's problematic because yes, because they don't know. 2202 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:24,160 But also if something is sitting out for a long time, you can also get food poisoning 2203 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,160 from that. 2204 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:26,160 Right. 2205 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,320 Well, but each problem to its own. 2206 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:31,640 What I mean is tortilla. 2207 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:36,760 The issue is that a good tortilla, a lot of people don't want it fully cooked through. 2208 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:37,760 Yes. 2209 01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:40,920 They want a little bit of egg yolk in the middle. 2210 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,640 And when you get it from a third kitchen, it's always fully cooked. 2211 01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,800 Of course, because it's a third business. 2212 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,920 You know, if there's any problems, that business wouldn't have problems. 2213 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,240 And they have to use these certain type of eggs like these. 2214 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,320 Oh, there's all these pasteurized. 2215 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,040 Yeah, like doesn't even matter. 2216 01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,320 Like when you look, you're going to have a tortilla out on your in display. 2217 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:05,120 Then you have to use these particular type of eggs that have been deemed safe. 2218 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:06,600 No, I suppose. 2219 01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,520 No, no, it's true. 2220 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:13,000 I mean, you know, whatever, it's too much regulation and people know when a tortilla 2221 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,880 is made by a third party. 2222 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:16,880 Yeah. 2223 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:24,400 Because it's just a crappy, just simple, cheap, not well, you know, yes, there's just not 2224 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,120 the potatoes are not properly fried. 2225 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,480 They're just under fried. 2226 01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:33,400 Usually it's just a full block and it's just too much egg white. 2227 01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,440 It's just not a good tortilla. 2228 01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:37,560 So to start, it started with a tortillas. 2229 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:42,800 And then just to see it happen with other pinchos is just really shocking where you 2230 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,800 suddenly see. 2231 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:51,360 I think one of the ones I noticed first was chip irones, which is calamari squids in its 2232 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:55,800 own ink, which is an onion sauce with squid. 2233 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,800 Tomato. 2234 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:57,800 Tomato. 2235 01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:58,800 Yes, it has tomato. 2236 01:35:58,800 --> 01:35:59,800 Yes. 2237 01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:00,800 It's tomato. 2238 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:01,800 Not on chocos. 2239 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,080 Not on chocos version. 2240 01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,080 I guess some people put in chocos. 2241 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,080 My mother-in-law makes it with tomato sauce. 2242 01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,080 I have to try that. 2243 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,080 That sounds good. 2244 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,640 So anyway, so. 2245 01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:17,000 So there's lots of this is the point, which is one of those dishes that take long versions 2246 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,400 of the same recipe, which is the kind of different. 2247 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:21,400 Yes, exactly. 2248 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,120 It is discovering how that bar makes great chip. 2249 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:25,120 It is. 2250 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:26,120 Right. 2251 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,160 Like, or that one makes a really good tortilla. 2252 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,160 Right. 2253 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:30,160 Or that one makes. 2254 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:35,480 So you go to these particular bars or restaurants because they make these dishes specially 2255 01:36:35,480 --> 01:36:37,920 or differently than other places. 2256 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:38,920 Right. 2257 01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:40,760 And tortilla is one of these flag. 2258 01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:41,760 It's like your beer. 2259 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:42,760 Right. 2260 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:43,760 It's like I drink beer. 2261 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:44,760 I like this beer. 2262 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,000 I won't go to a bar without that beer. 2263 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,760 And tortillas are very much like that here. 2264 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,760 Yeah. 2265 01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,080 It's like this place has that tortilla that I like because of whatever. 2266 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,080 The pimiento. 2267 01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:54,080 They make it. 2268 01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:55,080 The peppers. 2269 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:56,080 The cheese. 2270 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,320 Something they do properly the way you like. 2271 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,560 And yeah, that's when you start seeing that same tortilla that you recognize. 2272 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:03,800 And isn't that interesting? 2273 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,800 Yeah. 2274 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:05,800 Everywhere. 2275 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,760 It's the kind of one that you get on the on the gas station stop. 2276 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:09,760 It's like so offensive. 2277 01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:10,760 Yeah. 2278 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:11,760 Really? 2279 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,560 You're going to give me gas station tortilla. 2280 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:15,560 That's a crime. 2281 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,360 Julie, that's can you can you realize how annoyed I am by this? 2282 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,520 I put the story in our tiki. 2283 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:27,000 So it is a crime like it's very big. 2284 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,160 The you know, everything, everything. 2285 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,920 We're losing everything, Julie, apart from Basque language. 2286 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,240 They're taking it there to you now. 2287 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:36,240 Everything. 2288 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:37,240 Oh, yeah. 2289 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:38,240 So, yeah. 2290 01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,240 Yeah. 2291 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:40,240 Oh, well. 2292 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:41,240 Yeah, they have no charm. 2293 01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:49,120 There's no charm anymore to if they're all getting the same food from the same distributor. 2294 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,200 There's no longer any charm to these restaurants and bars. 2295 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:53,200 Right. 2296 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:54,200 Yeah. 2297 01:37:54,200 --> 01:38:01,200 And I have to say, but but in in Denostia, like in San Sebastian, Denostia, they have 2298 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:07,960 a guide now that puts out that will tell consumers where they can get pinches that are made in 2299 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:08,960 house. 2300 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:15,920 So they've had to go that far to like this guide will tell you where you can actually 2301 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,120 get pinches that are not good. 2302 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:19,120 Good. 2303 01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,120 Yeah. 2304 01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,360 Because but you'd have to know to do that as a tourist. 2305 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:23,360 Right. 2306 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:24,360 You do. 2307 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,480 You'd have to know that you like you do. 2308 01:38:27,480 --> 01:38:30,780 And I was going to actually mention I have to find this guy. 2309 01:38:30,780 --> 01:38:37,600 That was my my point was that we really like I live here the same amount of time as you 2310 01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:42,960 pretty much about some months apart in about 18 years. 2311 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,360 And I forgot what I was going to say about that. 2312 01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,720 But pinches crimes. 2313 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,280 Oh, yes. 2314 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:56,840 When we arrived here, there was no tourists like I'd go years without listening to English 2315 01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:57,840 on the street. 2316 01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:58,840 Yeah. 2317 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,760 And now it's like a weekly daily thing. 2318 01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,560 There's always tourists everywhere. 2319 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:07,320 There's a lot more business for bars and restaurants and hotels. 2320 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:15,280 And we have seen and they also have to keep up with this mass production of things, too. 2321 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:16,640 So they do. 2322 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,960 I mean, it's not an excuse to say let's lower the quality of our product because we have 2323 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:22,760 more more visitors. 2324 01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:24,800 But in the end, that's what has happened. 2325 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,640 That's why people came in the first place. 2326 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:27,640 Right. 2327 01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,600 Was for the food and the yeah. 2328 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:30,600 Yeah. 2329 01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:34,880 And we and it's kind of killing the one thing that we had. 2330 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,840 We I say we as part of that. 2331 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:43,520 But it was the we are we are like we live here and we are part of it. 2332 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:44,520 We love bus culture. 2333 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:45,520 Yeah. 2334 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,720 But it and it is killing that part of the attraction. 2335 01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:54,000 If you make it homogenous and exactly like everywhere else, it's kind of boring. 2336 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,000 Yeah. 2337 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,080 So I knew you would appreciate that. 2338 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,520 That's so riled up. 2339 01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:04,680 I still am so annoyed because yeah, it is. 2340 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,320 The thing is, I I'm kind of lucky. 2341 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:14,240 I go anywhere and I've got an eye that I can see if a bar is good or a restaurant is going 2342 01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:15,240 to be crappy. 2343 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:21,000 Usually, like I'm very good to choose good restaurants and bars to go to when like I'm 2344 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:27,160 in Thailand or wherever China, Japan, I'll find these cool places with really good food. 2345 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:28,160 Yeah. 2346 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,840 But even when I travel with my dad, he'll be like, let's go here. 2347 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,120 And I'm like, no. 2348 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,280 Is it the place that has like all the pictures of the food outside? 2349 01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,720 It doesn't matter. 2350 01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:38,720 That's the thing. 2351 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,720 I don't quite relate because I've got my standards. 2352 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,120 I just know when something talks to me. 2353 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:48,680 But it's just when I'm traveling with other people and I gave them the power to choose 2354 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,800 where we're going to eat, it never works. 2355 01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:52,960 It's like, man. 2356 01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:56,700 And it's it's when I see how hard of time and money. 2357 01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:58,260 But it's like what you were saying. 2358 01:40:58,260 --> 01:41:02,360 It's like when you really see how it just becomes a tourist trap. 2359 01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:03,360 Right. 2360 01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:04,800 Especially here where you are. 2361 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,360 You come here for good food. 2362 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:07,360 Yeah. 2363 01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:08,360 We have a lot of it's all about. 2364 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:09,360 It has a reputation. 2365 01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:10,360 Yeah. 2366 01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:11,360 So much about food. 2367 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:12,360 So many Michelin stars. 2368 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:13,360 Yeah. 2369 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:14,360 But that's the thing. 2370 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:20,040 You know, there's even, you know, Thailand, Vietnam, great food, but there's also crap 2371 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:21,040 food in Thailand. 2372 01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,240 Of course, there is crap food everywhere. 2373 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:24,240 Yeah. 2374 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:29,920 And you know, it's probably pretty good, but just overpriced and not as good as it can 2375 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:30,920 be. 2376 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:31,920 Decent and overpriced. 2377 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:32,920 Yeah. 2378 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:33,920 Yeah. 2379 01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:34,920 Yeah. 2380 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:35,920 I mean, edible, let's say sometimes just edible. 2381 01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:36,920 Yeah. 2382 01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,920 For crappy tortilla from third kitchens, as they say. 2383 01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:40,920 Yeah. 2384 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:41,920 No, that's pretty edible. 2385 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,920 It's over salted. 2386 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:45,920 Anyway. 2387 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:46,920 OK. 2388 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:47,920 So. 2389 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,840 So just Google good restaurants when you come to the best country, you'll be fine because 2390 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,920 there's good lists, fantastic Michelin star, all sorts in between. 2391 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:56,920 Lots of Michelin stars. 2392 01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:02,120 And just even just really nice bar, pincho bars with really affordable pinchos, right? 2393 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,920 Like it's not expensive to eat really good pincho. 2394 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:10,240 So even though this is a tendency, don't think that it's the end of good food here. 2395 01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:11,240 Yeah, it's not. 2396 01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:12,240 Not at all. 2397 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:13,240 It's just you have to be more careful. 2398 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:14,720 There are still places that are against that. 2399 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:15,720 Yeah. 2400 01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:17,920 And would not do that on principle. 2401 01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:18,920 Of course. 2402 01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:19,920 Oh, of course. 2403 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:20,920 So many. 2404 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:21,920 Yeah. 2405 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:22,920 So many. 2406 01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:23,920 Good story. 2407 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:31,320 OK, there's just that the one one two emergency phone. 2408 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,960 So like in America, it's nine one one. 2409 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:34,960 Right in the UK. 2410 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,920 It's I think it's one to the same as no, it's not. 2411 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,840 OK, is it nine nine nine? 2412 01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:45,160 Well, when they were in the EU, they were supposed to choose the same number. 2413 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,200 I can I can Google that. 2414 01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:48,760 So there's an emergency number, right? 2415 01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,440 So in America, it's nine one one here. 2416 01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:52,780 It's one one two. 2417 01:42:52,780 --> 01:42:57,840 So noted everybody, if anything happens, call one one two. 2418 01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:58,840 Yeah. 2419 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,320 And I can't remember what it is in the UK, but it's different. 2420 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:03,320 Nine nine nine. 2421 01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:04,320 Yeah. 2422 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:05,320 Boom. 2423 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:06,320 I got it. 2424 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:07,320 Nine nine nine. 2425 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:08,320 I got it. 2426 01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,320 I never had to call it. 2427 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,080 But I seem to like one one two. 2428 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:18,080 I always try to learn like what the emergency number is when I go somewhere. 2429 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,120 It's very responsible. 2430 01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,920 So anyway, it's only 40 years. 2431 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,920 It actually had its birthday. 2432 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,920 Forty years. 2433 01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:28,400 The one one two. 2434 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:29,400 Yep. 2435 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,400 Oh, 40 years this month. 2436 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:32,400 Yeah. 2437 01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:33,400 March 29th. 2438 01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,400 Just yesterday or the before. 2439 01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:37,400 Yeah. 2440 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:38,400 Two days ago. 2441 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:39,400 Forty years. 2442 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:43,080 Forty year anniversary of one one two. 2443 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:44,680 Couple years younger than me. 2444 01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,080 Oh, how sad. 2445 01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:48,360 So there you go. 2446 01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:53,040 I just thought that was a fun story to say that the emergency number is 40 years old 2447 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,760 and it's a very crime themed number. 2448 01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:56,760 Yes. 2449 01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,760 Well, that's why I chose it. 2450 01:43:58,760 --> 01:43:59,760 This cheeky said. 2451 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:00,760 Yeah. 2452 01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:05,720 And for all our listeners, I mean, not everyone, I think Europeans know this, but one one two 2453 01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:09,200 is the same number all throughout Europe for any. 2454 01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:10,200 Oh, is that the same? 2455 01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,200 OK. 2456 01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:12,200 Yeah. 2457 01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:13,480 So and UK is just different because they like to be different. 2458 01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:17,320 Well, they were supposed to choose one one two, but apparently they they held it off 2459 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:21,520 long enough that along with their currency, along with the exactly. 2460 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:22,520 Yeah. 2461 01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:24,520 So there you go. 2462 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:25,520 Cute. 2463 01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:26,520 Happy birthday. 2464 01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:27,520 One, one, two. 2465 01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,520 Thanks for all the work you do. 2466 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,680 Why did you have to call one one two? 2467 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:36,280 I just got well, not all the time, but you know, just for friends and stuff like the 2468 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:41,120 two weeks ago, my friend got his backpack stolen. 2469 01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:42,120 OK. 2470 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:43,120 Yeah. 2471 01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:48,160 And he was having some drinks with a group of friends for couch surfing on Thursday, 2472 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,680 which I always go to that group. 2473 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:56,520 And he left his I felt I feel pretty bad because it was like literally one meter away from 2474 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:57,520 me. 2475 01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:01,760 But if you don't tell me, Douglas, watch that bag. 2476 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,040 I was just chatting along. 2477 01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,760 I mean, to be honest, he was one point five meters away. 2478 01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,240 So it's not like, you know. 2479 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:09,240 Oh, he was there. 2480 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:10,240 We're all there. 2481 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:11,720 It wasn't like he like went somewhere. 2482 01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:12,720 No. 2483 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,120 We were all there the whole time. 2484 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:15,120 Wow. 2485 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:16,120 It's not your fault. 2486 01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:21,080 And yeah, it was just, you know, somebody was alone behind us and we were like, you 2487 01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,080 know, he's just smoking. 2488 01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:23,080 No, he wasn't. 2489 01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,480 He was in the bag and he took off with it. 2490 01:45:25,480 --> 01:45:27,880 So I mean, I was surprised. 2491 01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:29,280 My friends was like, who do I call? 2492 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:30,280 I'm like one one two. 2493 01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,280 Come on, guys. 2494 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:32,280 Where do you live? 2495 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,640 Like they were all from here. 2496 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,120 They weren't like and nobody knew who to call. 2497 01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:40,560 Well, it was my friend Bigo. 2498 01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:46,560 I don't know why she wouldn't know it was one one two, but you reach everybody. 2499 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,040 But I told her maybe you wouldn't know. 2500 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,960 But like if you live here, you wouldn't know the emergency. 2501 01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:55,480 My friend was standing next to her and she's like, what's the number? 2502 01:45:55,480 --> 01:45:59,800 And I'm like looking at him is like, are you like, are you kidding me? 2503 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,680 I don't know if it was paying attention, but I was like, it's one one two guys. 2504 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:08,560 Like anyway, that's and I'm terrible with my memory. 2505 01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,880 It's three numbers and one repeated. 2506 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,360 So it's not. 2507 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,200 So hey, that's a good birthday. 2508 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:21,080 Yeah, helped a lot of people prevent a lot of worse things. 2509 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,840 So yeah, yeah, it's great. 2510 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:28,200 It's firemen, it's police and it's it's an ambulance. 2511 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:29,200 Everything you need. 2512 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:30,200 Exactly. 2513 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,200 Any sort of emergency. 2514 01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,960 And here you got a choice of four or five police. 2515 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,840 So do you say so do you? 2516 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:37,840 Yes. 2517 01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,000 So how do you say that? 2518 01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:44,920 Congratulations, but use it for birthdays and yeah, it's for everything. 2519 01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:45,920 Yeah. 2520 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:46,920 Yeah. 2521 01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:47,920 Congratulations for getting a new job. 2522 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:48,920 So the. 2523 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:49,920 You got married. 2524 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,920 So the well, we finished another day. 2525 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:54,920 We finished another episode. 2526 01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:55,920 Julie. 2527 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,360 So we have a mini crime time. 2528 01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:58,360 We do. 2529 01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,360 Oh, we finished the stories. 2530 01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:01,360 Yes. 2531 01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:02,360 So done with our cheeky. 2532 01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:03,360 So let's hear a minute. 2533 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,600 Sorry, I wanted to cut you off. 2534 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,040 I was just like wanting to use Soriano. 2535 01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,040 Let's get out of here. 2536 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,040 No, we're just going to sit here for another hour. 2537 01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:14,040 It's possible. 2538 01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:15,040 So many crime time. 2539 01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:19,240 Let's talk about many crime time today. 2540 01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:20,980 So you have our mini crime time. 2541 01:47:20,980 --> 01:47:26,240 So this happened yesterday and it happened on Dos de Mayo where I used to live. 2542 01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:27,760 OK, OK. 2543 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:35,760 So a beer delivery truck drove into a building on Dos de Mayo. 2544 01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:36,760 Oh, my gosh. 2545 01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,200 Hitting the gas line. 2546 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,840 Oh, that connected to the buildings. 2547 01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:41,840 Right. 2548 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:42,840 Yeah. 2549 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:43,840 Busted the gas line. 2550 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:44,840 Sometimes it's over the front of the. 2551 01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:45,840 Yeah. 2552 01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,920 All the pipes just goes out there on the outside. 2553 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:50,920 Slammed right into that. 2554 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:51,920 Uh huh. 2555 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:52,920 And so that broke. 2556 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:59,000 I'm assuming broke the gas line and everybody in the neighborhood had to evacuate, including 2557 01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,760 our friends, including our producer, Megan. 2558 01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:02,760 Never heard about it. 2559 01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:03,760 Wow. 2560 01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:09,000 They had to evacuate their houses because it was a serious issue. 2561 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,080 This is borderline mini. 2562 01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:12,080 How many is this? 2563 01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:13,080 This is not many. 2564 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,080 Well, it was mini because, you know, nobody got hurt. 2565 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:17,080 Nothing actually happened. 2566 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:26,640 But yeah, it was like a guy had a car accident and it caused a big kerfuffle in the neighborhood. 2567 01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:28,360 Thankfully nothing exploded or caught in fire. 2568 01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:32,600 So on our other friends, I don't want to drop names necessarily. 2569 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:38,000 Emily, I mean, it's a name couldn't get into our house because they all live in that area. 2570 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:39,000 Right. 2571 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:40,000 Yeah. 2572 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,000 So we had to evacuate their houses, friends around the neighbors. 2573 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:43,000 There you go. 2574 01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:45,160 That's the mini crime of the week. 2575 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:46,160 Poor Megan. 2576 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:47,160 She had to, she's been sick this week. 2577 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,160 So she isn't with us today. 2578 01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:51,160 Megan had to ask. 2579 01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,560 And actually she'd probably be a better person to tell this story. 2580 01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:54,560 But of course. 2581 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:55,560 So shout out to Megan. 2582 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:56,560 We miss you again. 2583 01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:57,560 Yeah. 2584 01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:58,560 Yeah. 2585 01:48:58,560 --> 01:48:59,560 We recover fast. 2586 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:00,560 We miss you. 2587 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:01,560 We need you. 2588 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:02,560 We're having a good time over here. 2589 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:03,560 Yeah. 2590 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:04,560 I'm saying goodbye before I shoot. 2591 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:05,560 Oh my gosh. 2592 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:06,560 So there, there you go. 2593 01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:07,560 That was a good way. 2594 01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:08,560 Yeah. 2595 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:09,560 I liked it. 2596 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:18,440 Well, I hope everybody's keeping safe and the crime lists and their respective countries 2597 01:49:18,440 --> 01:49:22,160 and probably are because really crimes don't happen that often. 2598 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,000 And yeah, I listened to true crime. 2599 01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,560 Doesn't mean they happen all the time, but we want to hear about them all. 2600 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:29,560 Yeah. 2601 01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:30,800 So we have any, let us know. 2602 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:34,120 You guys right in your crimes. 2603 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:35,600 We've got very few times. 2604 01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,160 So did you see, we could have like somebody crashed into a building. 2605 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,000 That's a mini crime. 2606 01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,480 So tell us anything you have. 2607 01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:47,120 That's a mini crime and we'll tell it on the air if you want to do a voice message. 2608 01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:48,120 And we're very discreet. 2609 01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,720 If you don't want to be named, no problem. 2610 01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:51,720 Absolutely. 2611 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:52,720 I will. 2612 01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:53,720 I will indiscreetly. 2613 01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:54,720 And we respect your anonymity. 2614 01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:55,720 I just say that anonymity. 2615 01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:56,720 That's why I say it. 2616 01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:01,000 I'm going to, Oh, right. 2617 01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:07,200 I think I said, yeah, you got it. 2618 01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,520 You got it. 2619 01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:10,840 So yeah, we'll respect that. 2620 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,320 Of course. 2621 01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,120 So I was going to say like, we haven't, can you believe it? 2622 01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:18,280 We have not gotten so many stories so far and we want more. 2623 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:22,200 I know what guys at least so many crime times. 2624 01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:26,000 We probably just need more listeners. 2625 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:27,000 So true. 2626 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,400 Someday we'll, we'll have, but everybody has one little crime. 2627 01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,680 They can tell everybody does everybody does. 2628 01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:37,640 And the best connection can be as loose as I was drinking a best beer. 2629 01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:38,640 It doesn't have to be best. 2630 01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,280 It doesn't even have to be many crimes. 2631 01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:41,280 Don't have to be. 2632 01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:42,280 It's true. 2633 01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:43,280 It's true. 2634 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:44,280 Many crimes. 2635 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,280 Any crime. 2636 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:46,280 Yeah. 2637 01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:47,280 We just want to hear about it. 2638 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:51,880 Let's bring you guys in and thank you for listening all around the world. 2639 01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:52,880 Right? 2640 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:57,640 We've mentioned it sort of, but it's so nice to have people from so many random places. 2641 01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:58,640 Yeah. 2642 01:50:58,640 --> 01:50:59,640 Totally. 2643 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:00,640 So many from Germany. 2644 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:01,640 So surprising. 2645 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:02,640 Yeah. 2646 01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:03,640 And Poland. 2647 01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:04,640 Yeah. 2648 01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:05,640 And there's like Asia there. 2649 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:06,640 There's one or two in Thailand. 2650 01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,000 There's Vietnam randomly. 2651 01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:11,040 It's very sweet to, to, I'm sorry. 2652 01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,120 We're not shouting out all of the countries. 2653 01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:19,360 We will soon go through Compton. 2654 01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:23,760 We love Compton especially because we don't know anybody that we know would be there. 2655 01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,440 So we're like, you're our real fans. 2656 01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:28,840 Thank you guys. 2657 01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,240 We're going to notice you every week. 2658 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:33,240 If you say there, we're with you. 2659 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:34,240 Yeah. 2660 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,600 Shout out to everybody and have a great week. 2661 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:37,600 Yeah. 2662 01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:39,600 Do and hope to see you in a couple of weeks. 2663 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:40,600 Yes. 2664 01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:48,200 And we'll bid you a good crimes of the Basque lands is written and produced by the 2665 01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,040 Douglas Carvalho, Julie Garcia. 2666 01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:51,240 I'm Megan Dooley. 2667 01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:55,000 The sound and editing for each episode by Douglas Carvalho. 2668 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:56,320 I'm Megan Dooley. 2669 01:51:56,320 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