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Welcome to Unlimited Parenting. This is a show

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where we talk about what it's like to be parents

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of children with disabilities and or special

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health care needs. My name is Allison and I am

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joined today by the illustrious Melissa and the

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whimsical Sarah. And today we are going to be

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adjectives. I just came up with them on the fly.

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I don't know if I even know what they mean. Of

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course you do. Today we are. We are gathered

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here today to bring our own topics. Everyone

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has come to this table with a topic. Here we

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go. Okay. Sarah, you want to go first? Absolutely.

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I'd be delighted. What do you want to talk about

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today? Well, I had a hard time thinking about

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something, and then I just realized, you know

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what? There's the beginning of a new school year.

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It's our last year. Yeah. That's sad. It's been

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21 years of school. Oh, my God. i mean that's

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a lot of back school if you go back to yeah it's

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been a long time yeah because how old is boston

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he'll be he just turned 27 in the city hundreds

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of years boston my oldest just turned 27 so i've

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been doing school for a few years truman's in

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his in the last year of the 18 to 21 program

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and so i was thinking hey truman i love halloween

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i love holidays i love celebrating people and

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recognizing people it's the cheerleader in me

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and making people happy by doing things or making

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things for them or recognizing the good work

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that they do because we all put in a lot of work

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and what a missed opportunity to say that you

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weren't joyful Sarah instead of whimsical no

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right darn it well you didn't know her topics

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exactly so it sort of fits yeah so I was thinking

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that's what fills my bucket is making other people

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feel happy or feel seen or feel recognized. So

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you're a, what is that called? Like a gifts of?

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Acts of service. Acts of service. Thank you.

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Acts of service are part. That's your love language.

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For me to give to other people. I don't necessarily,

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like I do appreciate acts of service. Yes, definitely.

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But you love. I love. Sharing. When people feel

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seen. Share with me, Chester. Just people work

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hard. Sometimes go above and beyond. anyway back

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to the beginning of my i appreciate that about

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sarah i was thinking about this might take it

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a totally different way i'm not complaining but

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when you have a kid with a disability and they

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go to school and they have a teacher and they

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have a helper and they have a nurse, and they

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have a parent, and they have PT, OT, all of the

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things. All the things. It kind of adds up. All

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the people. Yeah. When you're recognizing, especially

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at the end of the year, because I like to, it's

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a lot of work with our kids sometimes. Who has

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$800 for all those Starbucks gift cards? Uh -huh.

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That's what I'm saying. So I am, that is my topic,

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I guess, is like, we're coming up on Halloween.

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We're coming up on Thanksgiving. And then we

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go into Christmas. And then we go into Teacher

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Appreciation Week. Maysember. All of those things.

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Like it's constant, right? It's always something.

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And so I've graciously done it and I've enjoyed

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doing it. But I'm the kind of person that kind

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of goes overboard. Right? That's my topic. How

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do you guys feel about, because I definitely

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would never want to leave anybody out. Like,

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are you even getting stuff for the bus drivers?

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Absolutely. I just wish. I do. Yep. Yep. So I

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don't get, I don't want this to sound weird.

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No. I'm not trying to throw anybody under the

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bus. For typical students, I've never got anything

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for the bus driver. Because they may, they. They

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get on the bus and they sit down. They get on

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the bus and they sit down and don't make it hard.

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And they don't like try not to get on or off

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or something like my special needs child does.

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He makes it exponentially harder. So they earn

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that treat at the end of the school. You know

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what I mean? But I'm just like you, you know,

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we have an OT, a PT, a speech. We have four pairs

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in a class. It adds up. It's a lot. Right. And

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I really do enjoy giving. gifts and doing recognition

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when it's not obligatory like that yeah but it's

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also i also enjoy the theme of giving and creating

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so well and it's you've been on the other as

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like a preschool teacher receiving end and that

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has to feel really good to be recognized that

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for going it's it does make me feel nice but

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i'm just like it's been 20 something years and

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here i am Maybe I'm coming to the realization

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that this is it. This might be the last time

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to have that. You know what I would do if I were

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you? A picture of Truman. Print it out from the

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Walgreens. Like 800 of them, right? And then

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on the pack. you write a heartfelt message like

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don't forget me i hope i taught you something

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on your teaching journey so it's a low financial

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lift yeah but it's but it allows you to access

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that creativity and think of a memory that you

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loved most and say you know truman wants me to

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remind you of the time that you got out of the

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bus and slipped and fell trying to help him haha

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or something like that you know you mean me exactly

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or like like that i appreciate that because of

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you truman has learned to navigate his aac or

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something like that yeah that's what i would

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want i'm thinking of like when i was a registered

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behavioral therapist that's not what i was is

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that what i was because that it doesn't matter

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that gives you the opportunity to really personalize

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it for i love that yeah yeah thanks because i

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remember i even i even remember all my kids I

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wouldn't be able to recognize them anymore because

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they'd be like five or six years older. Yeah.

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But I would have loved to have had a little picture

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that just. That's sweet. I do remember that similar,

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something similar I did when he left middle school.

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I had him paint something with a picture of him.

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So yeah, that. You could even incorporate that

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as a picture and then do a drawing, you know.

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Yeah. From Truman or something. Yeah. That gives

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Truman an activity. Mm -hmm. you know i like

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that i might steal that too okay i might steal

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my own idea yeah i'm like dang that's not a bad

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idea because i don't i don't want to be i don't

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want to give you another teacher's mug right

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one teacher i know and everybody gets chops or

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hand sanitizer you know or i i do go to the pinterest

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and look for all the cute things and they're

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adorable are but but i guess maybe they are lacking

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that heartfelt message Yeah. And sometimes things

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that were appropriate earlier or later on in

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a child's life aren't anymore. So, for example,

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when Silas was in developmental pre -K, I got

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the teachers a bottle of wine that said, I know

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my kids, the reason you drink or something like

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that. Yeah. It's not necessarily appropriate

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for Silas now because he's in a different stage

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of life. So it wouldn't be funny. Ha ha. If I

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did that the way that it was when he was four.

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Exactly. It almost be. really it almost be like

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well like this doesn't even make sense no yeah

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that's really helpful thank you for talking that

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out with me because here I am it's only mid -September

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and I'm stressing great about I know what am

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I getting reasons I think there's a hidden message

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in there that this is it gonna be yeah this is

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gonna be the last year that I get to do this

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I mean, I don't have to. I can continue to send

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them. I appreciate all the hard work you're doing.

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Every year you send them Hershey kisses. Right.

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But yeah, there's, it's been a long time I've

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been doing this. Yeah. But then it's also vinyl.

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Well, give us some examples of what you've done

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in the past. Oh my gosh. Well, right. Like I

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did the painting I made. You know how you, you

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can get those fridge magnet frames. Oh yeah.

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Uh -huh. you're my superhero and i did a hand

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print that's probably when i was teaching preschool

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did a hand print with different colors and then

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i made him each a different like superhero oh

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and then his picture and i've done that magnet

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that's a really good idea and i've done i've

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done little cups with you know the yeah cards

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and gift cards and things like that and he's

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painted them ornaments i made a christmas ornament

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on one side it's His picture like modged podged

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on one side and then something Christmassy on

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the other. Sarah, you were. I think we all need

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to collectively agree that we're only going to

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do one. So like you're either going to do Christmas

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or Teacher Appreciation Day or you're going to.

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We don't need to do all of it. Right. I know.

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And I mean, the ornaments were. If anyone's listening,

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they weren't expensive. I went to the dollar

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store. This is the most listened to. I went to

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the dollar store and I got like the pack of five

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Christmas ornaments for a dollar and then put

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the picture on the backside. And, you know, so

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it wasn't, I didn't break the bank. But your

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time and effort. Yeah. So I don't know. Okay.

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So those would be some fun things that I've done.

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I like that. Yeah. It gets me thinking more ahead

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and not just like last minute. I gotta go just

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get something. Like that's usually what I'm doing

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is the ray of. And then up to the store. You

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know what? Every year for the last like three

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years that we've done this, I don't ever get

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that vibe from you. But the vibe that I do, the

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last minute vibe I get from you is, oh my God,

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what am I going to do with this elf? Every year,

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it's the elf. Yeah. So now I think I'm finally...

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I think the elf... Yeah. Elfie's gone? No, Elfie

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will come. But I think Elfie... I think my last

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child knows about Elfie. No. I think now the

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kids are going to be more a part of moving him.

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I think it's going to be more for surprise each

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other. Surprise each other. Yeah. So now it's

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just Archer's surprise. No, but I think. No,

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but all the other. I think the others will surprise

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Archer with moving the elf. But I have a feeling

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that this year Elfie is going to start doing

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like naughty stuff. He's not any longer going

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to be just like. Elfie's going to be a G -rated

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elf. Melissa, what's your topic? Okay. I think

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my topic. So I have been traveling a lot lately,

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right? And I think my topic is no one else can

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do it for you. Only you can let it in. I didn't

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have a topic, but now I do. I have a topic. Okay,

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so I've been traveling a lot. And I came to the

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realization that, you know, when you go through

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security and you get all your stuff out of the

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bins, I very much think that the people that

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grab their bins and put them in the stack of

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the receptacle. And then pull our stuff out.

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No, I was like, don't leave the bins just there.

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Yes. They are the same people that put their

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shopping carts away. A hundred percent. Because

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I would never. You can tell so much about a person.

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Absolutely. By how they react after they have

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a shopping cart and after they go through security.

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Because it is like, are you the most selfish

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person in the entire world? Or are you going

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to like. Do some norms, like 10 second extra.

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10 seconds. 10 seconds. Just put it in the pile.

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Maybe 20 a shot is coming. I will say it is.

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TSA to me is like a Costco in the sense that

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it's kind of hard to have a good attitude there.

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Yeah. Okay. Recently. Oh, girl. You don't have

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a. I was at Costco yesterday and this man told

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me. I don't leave my manners at the door like

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other people do when they come to Costco. And

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he looked at me and I was like, there are two,

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I couldn't, you know how I am. You know how I

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am. I stopped and I turned around and I said,

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there are two lanes of traffic at this Costco.

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Anyway, TSA, when we were, when we recently,

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this girl to your immediate left, she is TSA

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pre -checked. She went. out of her way to go

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with me an individual with social anxiety through

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the typical lane okay the things that she saw

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with me slumming it with the regular people and

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the way i was treated this man i'm laying over

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a woman's toes when she was trying to do exactly

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what you're talking about which is putting the

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bin back where it belongs with his little bit

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that he was going to take the bins and she looked

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up and she was like oh my god ow so i stopped

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what i was doing i walked over to her and i was

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like are you good like that was kind of violent

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and she was like an apology would have been nice

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and that guy i i was gonna say something to him

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i was so close and you believe it you know that

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i was yeah until i saw his shirt it said supervisor

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and i said there is There's no point. No. It's

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from the top. So that's what I mean when I say

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it's almost like it's hard to be a good person.

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It's hard to be a good person. It is. Especially

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if that's what's happening. Right. Can I also

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say, do you want to tell this part about the

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individual with a disability that we saw? Yeah.

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Was treated worse than any person I've ever seen.

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He used a... He was not elderly. He was probably

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mid -20s. Yeah, he was younger than me for sure.

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Used a, you could sit on it, but also push it.

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Yeah. Like our grandparents would. Yeah. Thank

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you. Exactly. It had a seat on it. A seated walker.

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Yes, exactly. Exactly. Not come up with the word.

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Great. And he, the guy's like, well, how are

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you going to get through? And he's like, well,

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I can't stand up. I can't walk. This man was

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so nice. The individual with a disability. The

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kindest person. Very sweet. And so he's like

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taken off the pads to put him through the security.

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And the guy who was rude to me that was helping

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him also was like, well, come on over here this

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way. And like made him like sit right in the

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middle. everyone around him uh -huh he did not

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take him to a different room he was still and

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he was okay yeah okay he was waiting for him

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to go figure out how to deal with this poor guy

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right and just wow he went over and called someone

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over he's like i gotta help this guy like it

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was clear that he was put out for doing his job.

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Sarah was so uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable.

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I was prepared to watch the entire interaction

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from a distance. But Sarah leveled up her game

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and she walked right up to this man and she said,

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hey, are you all right? Like, well, he's sitting

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there waiting to get the other guy to get his

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help. He's like, I got to figure out how to deal

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with this guy. He literally said that. I have

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to figure out how to deal with this guy. Talking

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to the other TSA people in the stand. It's just

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another layer. Yeah. And I'm like, I didn't want

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to. I told Allison, I'm like, I don't want to

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leave. 100%. I don't want to leave. I want to

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make sure that he gets through. And I'm like,

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are you going to be okay? And he's like, yeah.

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Like, it obviously wasn't the first time. That

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was exactly the impression I got. Like, on the

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list of all the negative encounters that I've

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had, this one's probably not even in the bottom

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10. I hate that. I know. I hate that. The way

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that this man with a disability had to be the

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adult. He was not the adult. Gosh. He was alone.

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Right? Mm -hmm. And I have, I have seen, I have,

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you know, traveled with individuals with disabilities

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and you do get, you get some. I know. Disparaging

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looks and comments and it's already difficult

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to travel. Don't make it that much harder. Everyone

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has to be, and I swear to God, this is a fact.

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Everybody has to be in their worst mood when

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they travel. I know. You have to be in the worst

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mood possible or else you don't have thick enough

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skin to get through it. That's true. i know wow

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i'm like i know i don't have to go through pre

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wow because we don't have to that was nice line

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but i'm like i'm traveling with my friend i don't

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want her to travel alone i wasn't going to say

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i'm traveling with my friend who has social anxiety

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and a disability right he needs help he's like

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that's not my plan to say that oh i'm traveling

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with my friend and i what what do i need to do

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like i know we've all seen that funny meme like

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doing autism for the lady But as an autistic

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adult, like what do I need to do to get support?

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Yeah. Like they always say sunflower lanyard,

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just ask for help. So I do. And I ask, and then

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it must be the way that I come off or something,

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but people automatically look at me like, well,

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duh, all you gotta do is this. Like the day when

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I, I was, uh, nervous so I just started taking

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everything off to put it in the bin at the cell

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phone everything I took off my apple watch this

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man looked at me like I had just screamed bomb

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right he looked at me and he goes never take

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off your apple watch and I just stared at him

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and he was like and you can stop staring at me

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what is this in Boise yes and I just take my

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watch off every time and so I just put my watch

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back on and I was like I just stood there for

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a minute and he was like the line is right there

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and so then I had to go and walk in the line

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and The way I was so overstimulated, like I couldn't.

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And so people had to tell me everything twice.

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And I'm like, I got to get out. I got to get

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out of here. I got to get out of here. They make

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it. the absolute worst experience of your entire

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life right well i get i get i can't even imagine

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how annoying it is to say the same thing all

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day every day take your laptops out of your bag

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that's not your job i get it and there's no consistency

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if there was a consistency from airport to airport

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you wouldn't have to say all of that no so i

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didn't mean for my topic to turn into this i

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was over at pre and people are taking their shoes

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and belts off and i'm like I give up. I don't

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even know what's going on anymore. Should we

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just go through? But we should also clarify that

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in this past year, we've been to northern Idaho.

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We've been to Sacramento. We've been to Denver.

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We've been to D .C. Heck, last year I went to,

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I was in New Orleans. Like, it does not matter.

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I've never had a good experience. It's not like

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it's just the Boise airport or it's just the

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Reagan International. It doesn't matter. so that's

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what i think i think that you can tell a lot

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about a person if they put away their tsa bin

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and their shopping carts that's what i'm saying

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we need more people who will put away their tsa

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bins in the bin line yep we just need good people

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in the world yeah be the good you want to be

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the good and put yourself away god i wish we

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don't even need to do my topic we should just

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end on that line these are good well we um have

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you ever gone to like a baby shower and they

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are like give the new mom a bit of advice i always

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say park next to a cart return because that saved

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my life when i had absolutely but they won't

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let you say that now because now um Oh, girl.

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With all the trafficking stuff going on, they're

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like, never put your kids in the car and then

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walk away from your car. Like, even if you're

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putting the car. But that's what I mean. I used

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to park right next to the cart return so that

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I would push you right there. Oh, your kids were

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where you go. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So

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that is a great advice. So I guess in concession

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for the non -cart returners. Yeah. If you are

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with your child. Okay. We will forgive you that

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one time. I make my kid do it. Run across the

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giant. Yeah, exactly. Run. I mean, in all fairness,

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your 11 year old is 5 '10". To be honest, I think

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he might be six foot. I just got home and he

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was the same height as my father. No. No. Uh

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-huh. Yeah. So the last week that I was gone,

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I think he grew. It's like, it's bad. I mean,

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there has to be some underlying something going

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on because he already had his genetics test.

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I know, and it was a little wackadoo, but it

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wasn't anything crazy. But I don't think that

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typical children grow like that, even when they

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have cow hormones like you have yours. Yeah,

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I don't know. I know. Maybe he'll stop. Six foot

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at 11 years old. Even my 18 -year -old who I

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saw this week was... way bigger than the last

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time I left him. I was like, are you just like

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looking at your children without your glasses

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on and then coming back and putting them on?

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Yeah, that could be. And you're like, crap. No,

00:22:08.089 --> 00:22:11.049
my kid's legs. Like he's been working out. I'm

00:22:11.049 --> 00:22:13.730
like, oh my word. I just saw you two months ago.

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Red shirt who? Look at you. A what? A gray. What

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does that mean? It's about the same as red shirt.

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Okay. Yeah. You digress. I digress. It wouldn't

00:22:23.990 --> 00:22:28.779
be worth it. Well, what's yours? My topic is,

00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.740
I don't know. Okay, well, I mean, I know what

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my topic is, but now I don't know if it's like,

00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:40.059
it's maybe not a good fit for this with the previous

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topics. My topic was, it just, it kind of feels

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like now that everyone else has given their topic,

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it's like complain hour, but that's not what

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it is. Before you started working here, you didn't

00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.009
have any children with disabilities, right? The

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answer is yes, because that's why people come

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into this work, right? Because we had children

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with disabilities. That's why we're all here.

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Oh, okay. Sure. Did that make no sense? Sorry.

00:23:03.269 --> 00:23:05.289
Didn't make sense because I did work at another

00:23:05.289 --> 00:23:08.049
place with a child. You mean we wouldn't have

00:23:08.049 --> 00:23:10.589
thought to work here? You wouldn't be here without

00:23:10.589 --> 00:23:12.210
a child with a disability. Like no one was in

00:23:12.210 --> 00:23:14.710
high school saying, I want to work at a PTI when

00:23:14.710 --> 00:23:19.009
I grow up. 100%. So my question is, before you

00:23:19.009 --> 00:23:21.329
had children with disabilities, what were you

00:23:21.329 --> 00:23:25.519
going to do? What was your life path when you

00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:27.940
charted your life corners? Oh, really? But then

00:23:27.940 --> 00:23:29.880
when I realized that I would have had to maybe

00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:35.200
put them asleep. Oh, no way. Oh, I don't want

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:38.819
to do that. Yeah. Yeah. And then like the other

00:23:38.819 --> 00:23:41.319
Melissa that we saw at the conference because

00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:44.500
she wanted to be a vet. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty

00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:46.700
sure she wanted to be a veterinarian. Yeah, she

00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:48.599
did. Because then you made that comment and I

00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:50.039
was like, oh, my God, that's right. You wanted

00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.430
to be a vet, too. That's right. Yeah. And then

00:23:53.430 --> 00:23:55.329
I was going to be, then I was going to do like

00:23:55.329 --> 00:23:58.589
ultrasound for a while. On animals again? No,

00:23:58.670 --> 00:24:02.410
on humans. But then I, when I got like in that

00:24:02.410 --> 00:24:04.509
track, I was looking and there was way too much

00:24:04.509 --> 00:24:06.789
math that was necessary. How about I just do

00:24:06.789 --> 00:24:09.089
a business and that's where we ended up. Why

00:24:09.089 --> 00:24:11.109
do you need so much math to wave a wand on a

00:24:11.109 --> 00:24:14.109
body? I don't know. It was like science math.

00:24:14.309 --> 00:24:16.329
Right? You would think business would not even

00:24:16.329 --> 00:24:19.970
require science math. Yeah. But calculus too.

00:24:20.939 --> 00:24:23.500
And whatever math that I had already done in

00:24:23.500 --> 00:24:26.720
high school was sufficient. Yeah. Okay. Well,

00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.400
because when I tried to go to BSU for a business

00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:31.420
major, they told me I had to go all the way to

00:24:31.420 --> 00:24:35.039
calculus. And I said, girl. Hey, no. Because

00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:37.539
I would not have done that. Thank you. That makes

00:24:37.539 --> 00:24:39.599
me. Well, me for business management, I went

00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.019
business management, human resources. So I don't

00:24:42.019 --> 00:24:45.039
know if that removed. I bet it did. I don't know.

00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.019
I just needed to get out of there with no more

00:24:48.019 --> 00:24:51.750
math classes. Truth. Yeah. Because it hurt. It

00:24:51.750 --> 00:24:55.009
hurt the brain. No, I would never. Even up until

00:24:55.009 --> 00:24:59.009
five years ago, I wouldn't have considered this

00:24:59.009 --> 00:25:04.170
line of work. Yeah. Yeah. I just didn't know

00:25:04.170 --> 00:25:06.289
it. Because even in no existence. Even doing

00:25:06.289 --> 00:25:08.789
it, like being a parent of a child with a disability,

00:25:08.950 --> 00:25:11.529
several in fact. And I remember being like, I'm

00:25:11.529 --> 00:25:14.329
not expert enough. Yeah, we are. It's always

00:25:14.329 --> 00:25:16.970
like an imposter syndrome type of thing. Absolutely.

00:25:16.970 --> 00:25:20.569
We kind of say that all the time. Oh, yeah. You

00:25:20.569 --> 00:25:22.829
know, I tell parents I give not we don't give

00:25:22.829 --> 00:25:25.529
advice, but we give resources and such that sometimes

00:25:25.529 --> 00:25:28.549
I haven't even used. I need to be using them.

00:25:29.109 --> 00:25:31.910
Yeah. What about you, Sarah? Where were you going

00:25:31.910 --> 00:25:35.809
to be? And you kind of are here, though, right?

00:25:35.930 --> 00:25:41.549
I was I was two classes plus student teaching

00:25:41.549 --> 00:25:45.630
away from a teaching degree. And then I had a

00:25:45.630 --> 00:25:50.740
baby with complex medical needs. jeez talk about

00:25:50.740 --> 00:25:54.160
a whole change of just your life everything different

00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:59.519
so i teach different in different ways did you

00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.279
always want to be a teacher like even when you

00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.740
were little little five years old really it never

00:26:03.740 --> 00:26:05.579
changed it was always teacher and did yours ever

00:26:05.579 --> 00:26:09.099
change was it always bet oh yeah really my mind

00:26:09.099 --> 00:26:12.940
fluctuated so much really yeah so from like five

00:26:12.940 --> 00:26:16.960
to 13. i'm in my poor sister Sit through class

00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:27.039
so many times. Yeah. I'm going to spank you if

00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.559
you don't do your homework. Oh, yeah. Old school.

00:26:30.900 --> 00:26:34.619
I was old with my dogs. And my brother would

00:26:34.619 --> 00:26:36.660
have to bring them. He was the client and he

00:26:36.660 --> 00:26:39.019
would have to bring them. And he would just drop

00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:41.660
them off and I'd weigh them and stuff. Cute.

00:26:42.940 --> 00:26:46.059
Well, cute. Well, what about you? Well, when

00:26:46.059 --> 00:26:48.119
I was younger, I was gonna be a famous singer.

00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:50.880
Oh. Like, it wasn't an option. I was gonna be

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:54.480
a famous singer. And then I realized I'm... Did

00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:57.259
you do, like, choir and stuff? Oh, yeah. I had

00:26:57.259 --> 00:27:01.339
private singing lessons. I did choir. Did you

00:27:01.339 --> 00:27:04.190
do that? No. You guys are always so sweet. Yeah,

00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:06.809
you just drop these random. I had private singing

00:27:06.809 --> 00:27:09.710
lessons. I showed dogs. It's like, what? Those

00:27:09.710 --> 00:27:12.349
are not normal. I mean, I wanted to be an actress

00:27:12.349 --> 00:27:14.589
too. I was in drama and all those things, but

00:27:14.589 --> 00:27:17.809
teaching is sort of like that. But no, I didn't

00:27:17.809 --> 00:27:21.069
know that about you. Then. Busted out. Let's

00:27:21.069 --> 00:27:29.369
do it. I did. No. Come on. Then I did a, I wasn't

00:27:29.369 --> 00:27:32.690
like, okay, let's be very, very for real here.

00:27:33.369 --> 00:27:36.730
I did maybe 15 lessons because I wasn't as good

00:27:36.730 --> 00:27:39.089
as I wanted to be. So I figured, why do it at

00:27:39.089 --> 00:27:42.309
all? Of singing? And that was kind of my mantra

00:27:42.309 --> 00:27:44.890
in life is that if I couldn't be perfect, I wasn't

00:27:44.890 --> 00:27:48.109
going to do it at all. It's very much a problem.

00:27:49.089 --> 00:27:51.250
Was it like, did you ever consider going on American

00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:54.170
Idol? No, no, I'm not. No, I'm not that good.

00:27:54.329 --> 00:28:00.089
Okay. But I, so part of the lessons was, you

00:28:00.089 --> 00:28:02.549
know, like match your voice to an instrument.

00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.819
So, like, some girls, like, looking at you, Hayley

00:28:05.819 --> 00:28:08.460
Williams from Paramore, have really pretty voices

00:28:08.460 --> 00:28:12.680
when they're paired with guitars. My voice pairs

00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:19.180
best with a piano. A harp. A trumpet. My voice

00:28:19.180 --> 00:28:22.119
pairs best with a pair of noise -canceling headphones.

00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:27.160
No, but for real. I don't know why harp just

00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:35.309
came to me. Okay. Okay. When I was seven, I used

00:28:35.309 --> 00:28:37.990
to make my dad listen to me sing along to Celine

00:28:37.990 --> 00:28:41.549
Dion, and he would be like, honey, please. Bring

00:28:41.549 --> 00:28:44.910
me the noise canceling. Oh, my word. At seven.

00:28:45.029 --> 00:28:47.950
I wish that there was, like, is there photographic

00:28:47.950 --> 00:28:49.750
evidence of that? Oh, yeah, there's videos of

00:28:49.750 --> 00:28:53.490
me singing into a webcam. Who will save your

00:28:53.490 --> 00:28:58.009
soul? From 2001. I can find it. Yeah, you need

00:28:58.009 --> 00:29:02.119
to. Yes, please. And then I wanted to be the

00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.359
CEO of a company. I didn't care which company.

00:29:04.460 --> 00:29:07.480
I just wanted to be the boss. So then I went

00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.299
to, see, now this is kind of funny. I went to

00:29:11.299 --> 00:29:14.519
school for business. And then I realized you

00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.539
had to take calculus. So I had to back out. So

00:29:16.539 --> 00:29:18.079
you went to business because you didn't have

00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.740
to take as much math. I had to back out of business

00:29:20.740 --> 00:29:22.960
because it was too much math. I think we were

00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.119
in some different catalog years. We were in different

00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.019
catalog years. We were separated by some years.

00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.200
This was back when you needed to know how to

00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:36.299
count to ten to graduate. We had an abacus. I

00:29:36.299 --> 00:29:40.880
can't count to ten. I'm not that old. Oh, my

00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.000
gosh. We had to learn how to use that to teach

00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:47.809
math. Are you kidding? I could never do it. That

00:29:47.809 --> 00:29:51.289
was the hardest math class I've ever had. It

00:29:51.289 --> 00:29:53.569
wasn't like differential algebra. It was applicants

00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:57.730
101. Learned how to teach math. Math. Math, math.

00:29:58.089 --> 00:30:01.549
My golly. And that was so hard. What? What is

00:30:01.549 --> 00:30:03.369
this? I can't be doing this. Oh, wow. I can't

00:30:03.369 --> 00:30:06.450
be living this life. No. No. It wasn't until

00:30:06.450 --> 00:30:08.789
recently that I wanted to be a librarian. That

00:30:08.789 --> 00:30:10.750
was not like a lifelong goal. It wasn't? I can

00:30:10.750 --> 00:30:13.450
imagine that that wasn't. No. That's just been

00:30:13.450 --> 00:30:16.210
very recent, but I'm curious. what what do you

00:30:16.210 --> 00:30:18.529
guys think i would want to do like what vibes

00:30:18.529 --> 00:30:21.250
do i give librarian hard librarian vibes well

00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:26.789
um you give like like lead clerk at air apostle

00:30:26.789 --> 00:30:32.930
well no like like a loud library can you imagine

00:30:32.930 --> 00:30:36.049
me at the bmb i'd be like hurry up can i tell

00:30:36.049 --> 00:30:38.470
you that when i checked in at the tick and kate

00:30:38.470 --> 00:30:41.509
yesterday the lady was like the dmv slot that

00:30:41.509 --> 00:30:46.079
he was utopia she was like i would pass away

00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:49.640
i would pass away robin i was like are you seeing

00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.980
what i'm seeing this is utopia and he was like

00:30:51.980 --> 00:30:55.480
yep she was so slow pressing the buttons it was

00:30:55.480 --> 00:31:00.839
the end of her day um librarian librarian ah

00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.799
yeah what about me okay yeah so no yeah i was

00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.119
thinking about this is a really fun game okay

00:31:07.459 --> 00:31:11.539
Teacher. You give, I work at, okay, this is wild.

00:31:11.740 --> 00:31:13.920
This is wild. And you guys are going to completely

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:15.960
disagree with me, but I just want you to know

00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.019
it's the truth and I won't accept any other answers.

00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:24.079
You give, I work at the Mac makeup counter. Today,

00:31:24.259 --> 00:31:26.400
I'm not wearing makeup. No, you don't even have

00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.059
to wear makeup. She is so happy, so bubbly. I

00:31:30.059 --> 00:31:31.920
can find the solution to any problem. You have

00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.640
red, I can color correct. You need the cool tone,

00:31:34.740 --> 00:31:37.680
you need the warm tone. And I also say this because

00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.680
when I go to the MAC makeup counter, I know that

00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:41.539
I am about to be very, and it's funny because

00:31:41.539 --> 00:31:43.740
I never wear makeup, but I did a lot when I was

00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:47.720
little. Just tons of MAC makeup. But I always

00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.779
felt, yeah, I always felt so like taken care

00:31:51.779 --> 00:31:54.140
of at a MAC makeup counter. And I knew I was

00:31:54.140 --> 00:31:55.759
never going to leave with like lipstick on my

00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.460
teeth or, you know what I mean? Like I was going

00:31:57.460 --> 00:32:00.099
to look good. Like they did my senior pictures.

00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:04.119
They did my wedding pictures. I hired. oh uh

00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.359
-huh you could do that you can i hired the manager

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.359
at mac i said this is my wedding day i know you

00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.240
could do that i want to look phenomenal give

00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.339
me the best of the best and they said you can

00:32:15.339 --> 00:32:18.599
and she's 300 an hour and i said it that's great

00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.119
you go in there and they did it no they came

00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.559
to me they come with their traveling makeup bag

00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.099
i had no idea this is what year did i get married

00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:31.839
2011. okay oh my 2011 300 an hour wow in 11.

00:32:32.059 --> 00:32:33.900
anyway i would have paid any amount of money

00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:36.039
for her she was so great my husband was late

00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:40.279
to our wedding and she was like girl i gotta

00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.470
stop what if i have to take all of this off Oh

00:32:45.470 --> 00:32:50.849
my God. And I said, I said, put this whole face

00:32:50.849 --> 00:32:52.789
of makeup on because if this day goes down, I

00:32:52.789 --> 00:32:55.450
want to look hot when it does. And she was like,

00:32:55.509 --> 00:32:59.029
Oh, I love you. Yeah. Okay. So you give, you

00:32:59.029 --> 00:33:02.369
give you're in good hands with all state. So

00:33:02.369 --> 00:33:04.230
I'm going to give you Mac makeup counter. You

00:33:04.230 --> 00:33:09.869
on the other hand are a bar back. Oh, you work

00:33:09.869 --> 00:33:13.900
at a bar late at night. Yes. You work at a bar.

00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:18.359
Really? Absolutely. Okay. Because you are quick.

00:33:18.579 --> 00:33:21.660
You are. You are on it. You can management. You

00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:25.160
need to close out your tab. Did you bring an

00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.079
extra thing of whatever to table number 33? Like

00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.460
you're the boss of the bar. No crowd is going

00:33:31.460 --> 00:33:34.200
to rile you up. You are in control of everything.

00:33:34.259 --> 00:33:36.599
You walk in and you go, I don't know if that's

00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.019
like the correct term, but like a bar manager.

00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.779
Yeah. You walk in and you're like. Interesting.

00:33:41.859 --> 00:33:44.319
You think that my, you think that you can pull

00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.680
this on me when I have a disabled child? You

00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:48.759
can walk right out of Humpin' Hannah's and try

00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:54.119
again. Like you look concerned. No, don't be

00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.779
sad. What did you think I was going to say? What

00:33:58.779 --> 00:34:01.740
vibes do I give? Do you want to try again now

00:34:01.740 --> 00:34:03.359
that you gave me something nice like librarian?

00:34:03.740 --> 00:34:06.299
Give librarian vibes though. Like you want people

00:34:06.299 --> 00:34:09.340
to read. I want people to learn. And the programs.

00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.539
And I look very homely. Not in a negative way.

00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.500
No, not in a negative way. You are approachable

00:34:17.500 --> 00:34:21.199
in a library. But I very much look like I'd rather

00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.960
sit there and smell the book than pick out a

00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:27.820
mascara. Like that. I mean, come on. You want

00:34:27.820 --> 00:34:31.179
people to learn and be their best. Yeah. Okay,

00:34:31.260 --> 00:34:33.019
well, what jobs would have you given each other?

00:34:33.380 --> 00:34:38.440
I would have given her a teacher. Like, I know

00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:41.590
that's really basic, but I think Sarah's... Or

00:34:41.590 --> 00:34:43.949
like a good teacher. You could also. I want to

00:34:43.949 --> 00:34:47.829
get Neil Teicher. I know. Or you know what else

00:34:47.829 --> 00:34:50.030
she kind of gives? You can handle all the. Hospital

00:34:50.030 --> 00:34:52.630
administrator. What I think is really interesting

00:34:52.630 --> 00:34:56.159
is you mentioned the fact that you. passed on

00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:57.820
being a vet because there was something that

00:34:57.820 --> 00:35:00.260
you couldn't do. Yeah. And then the two of us

00:35:00.260 --> 00:35:03.440
are like, you could do anything. You are here

00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.960
because you could do anything. The animals, not

00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.219
the animals. Put the animals down. That is like

00:35:08.219 --> 00:35:11.340
the most vulnerable people get. And you go in

00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:14.219
with your animal and then you leave without your

00:35:14.219 --> 00:35:16.760
animal. And I've done that numerous times. And

00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:20.159
I go to the vet. That's the curve 2024. I know.

00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.150
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it would be like my ducks.

00:35:23.329 --> 00:35:26.469
I could get rid of my ducks. So I have just surrounded

00:35:26.469 --> 00:35:29.210
myself with animals. And they're never going

00:35:29.210 --> 00:35:33.090
to die. Well, yeah. Exactly. So it's interesting

00:35:33.090 --> 00:35:35.420
that you thought of this topic because... So

00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:37.719
I wouldn't have ever thought of going into anything

00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:41.500
disability related. However, my children, my

00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:44.480
daughter, because she has grown up in this world,

00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.780
is going to school to be a pediatric physical

00:35:46.780 --> 00:35:49.340
therapist. That's so wild. But this would never

00:35:49.340 --> 00:35:51.139
have happened had she not had a little brother

00:35:51.139 --> 00:35:54.019
that needed those services. And she went with

00:35:54.019 --> 00:35:57.719
us to all of those appointments. I don't think

00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.300
that would have been in her wheelhouse. Because

00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:01.079
I think people are always just trying to find

00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.739
something that they're passionate about. They

00:36:03.739 --> 00:36:08.739
want to have a purposeful life. And she says,

00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.800
I saw what good it did for Reese, and I want

00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.260
to be that in other people's lives, in kids'

00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:19.199
lives. Because it was play that made a difference.

00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:21.400
I'm going to really make a difference in this

00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.420
kid's life from a physical therapy standpoint.

00:36:23.900 --> 00:36:25.800
So I think that's kind of cool how our kids now,

00:36:25.900 --> 00:36:29.139
because of their siblings. Yeah. Yeah. They're

00:36:29.139 --> 00:36:32.000
very passionate. Well, that's a quick recap.

00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.639
I want everyone to go around the room and say

00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.420
something nice about themselves. I could be a

00:36:38.420 --> 00:36:41.579
barback. You could. You'd be so good, too. You

00:36:41.579 --> 00:36:44.420
would be so good. Sarah, what would you be good

00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:48.619
at? Making people happy. Yes. Helping people

00:36:48.619 --> 00:36:51.079
be happy. I can't make people be happy. Girl,

00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.639
that's the dream. Helping people find their happiness.

00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.019
Helping people find their good. You do that to

00:36:57.019 --> 00:37:00.000
us. You do 100%. I'll tell you that. Thanks,

00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:01.599
because sometimes I don't feel like it. I walk

00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.159
in here a little bit grumpy. That's fine. Everybody

00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.099
does. That's totally normal. That's part of the

00:37:06.099 --> 00:37:10.860
human condition. And me. You. I'm funny. Even

00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:13.139
if other people don't think I'm funny, I laugh

00:37:13.139 --> 00:37:15.599
at myself. And that's all that matters at the

00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.159
end of the day. You would be the funny librarian.

00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:19.139
I would be the funny librarian. I would be like,

00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.420
there was the purple librarian, the purple lady

00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:25.460
at the library. Oh my God, that's right. So you

00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:27.840
would be them. I would wear Miss Frizzle dresses

00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.619
if I worked at the library. 100%. I would wear

00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:33.480
Miss Frizzle dresses and I would get everybody

00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:35.460
in a group and I would read a book out loud and

00:37:35.460 --> 00:37:38.170
I would act it out with puppets. And I could

00:37:38.170 --> 00:37:49.030
sing. You could. I could sing. Thank you so much,

00:37:49.030 --> 00:37:51.349
everyone out there, for listening in. And know

00:37:51.349 --> 00:37:54.570
that if you are in Idaho or planning on moving

00:37:54.570 --> 00:37:58.150
to Idaho and have questions on systems or services

00:37:58.150 --> 00:38:01.349
for children with disabilities, please consider

00:38:01.349 --> 00:38:04.530
reaching out to us on our website at iPull, Idaho.

00:38:04.610 --> 00:38:12.960
That's I -P -U -L. or by calling us at 208 -342

00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.480
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00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:21.260
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00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:21.639
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