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Welcome to Unlimited Parenting. This is a show

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where we talk about what it's like having children

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with disabilities and or special health care

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needs. I was about to say being parents with

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special health care needs and that could be true

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too. That's going to be another episode. What

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it's like parenting differently abled children.

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You have your own special health care needs.

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Exactly. Another episode coming. This is part

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three of our series on the 10 steps to special

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education. So we've already done steps one and

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two and three and four. So at this point in your

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journey, your child has been assessed for an

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IEP and they have been found eligible. And now

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you're at the stage where you're going to set

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the meeting and then attend. the meeting so if

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all of this is new to you i do suggest starting

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back at the beginning if you are going in for

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a refresher for this upcoming school year and

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your child had an iep in the year previous you

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probably don't need to go more yeah this might

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be a good starting point if you unless of course

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you enjoy the sound of our voices and then i

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encourage you go back there's lots of giggling

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um Okay, so just so that we can set the stage,

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step five is before the meeting and step six

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is the IEP meeting held and the plan written.

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So all of this applies to no matter what state,

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what state, no matter what city you are in Idaho.

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If you're in the great state of Ada. it applies

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that's where you every that's my favorite thing

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to say that's my favorite thing to say from everywhere

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from everywhere so let's again set the stage

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so the meeting is scheduled so when you're scheduling

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an iep meeting that is coming from the team someone

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yeah you're gonna head yeah you're not scheduling

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it yeah but all participants for the meeting

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are going to be contacted and it's going to be

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scheduled at a mutually beneficial time so this

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though is a good Hard to pause and say that there

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may be less people than was at your eligibility

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meeting. A thousand percent. Yeah. Because you

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might not have needed those speech services or

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some you might not have an SLP at your upcoming

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meeting. Yeah. But the minimum is the four core

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members, which is the parent or guardian, the

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district representative, the special education

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teacher and the general education teacher. And

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the student, if appropriate. Yes. Thank you for

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saying that because I could easily go down so

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many rabbit holes with this. Talk about a deep

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dive. There are three different IEPs. Oh, yeah.

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So we're going to assume that your child, that

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in our scenario, we're going to look at a standard

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IEP. Because talk about getting into the weeds.

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Yeah. There's the early childhood. There's the

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standard. And then there's the transition to

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adulthood. So we're going to, we're going to.

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And they each have different standards and requirements.

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Yeah. So. And those are one -offs. Exactly. So

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if your child is between kindergarten and 13,

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14. Yep. Then you're here with us. Yep. Okay.

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So we're contacting all of the people. Schedule

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the meeting at a convenient time and location.

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Notify parents of the purpose, time, location

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of meeting. You should also be notified as the

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parent on who will be attending the meeting.

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And that you can, in fact, invite other people

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to attend with you. Anyone who can speak to how

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your child's disability affects them. Or alternatively,

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if you just have a friend who's maybe a meticulous

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note taker. and you just want to capture everything,

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you could do that as well. I would also say this

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is a really good time to, if there are those

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people that maybe cannot attend, but they still

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want to provide input, like maybe you have an

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outside BI or an outside physical therapist,

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this is a really good opportunity for them to

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put some of those thoughts on paper and get those

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to the team. This is also where I always ask

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if... There is a draft copy of the IEP available

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if I am able to look at that so that I kind of

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have eyes on it prior to going into the meeting.

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But that's not that's a best practice. That's

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not nowhere in the law says that they have to.

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and that might be more likely to happen if you

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didn't roll from your eligibility meeting into

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your iep so if you're someone like me who didn't

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have that happen then that's more likely to happen

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because that's what did happen as i did see a

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draft iep prior to the meeting but i don't think

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you did because you just rolled from correct

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one meeting into the next so every situation

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is so different okay So step six, we're at the

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meeting. So at the IEP meeting, the team is going

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to essentially work together to, I mean, you

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can conceptualize it like building a roadmap

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for your child's success for this school year.

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yeah so this is your opportunity to bring your

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voice your expertise your data your knowledge

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about your child and what you want for them yeah

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in the future too yes i think sometimes parents

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are a little nervous that they are going to be

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having to write the goals and that they're going

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to need to be pre -loaded with all this information

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and that's not that's that's not at all it is

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a team we are all these are educators who this

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is their job and so they're going to work amongst

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the team to really figure out those best supports

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and goals. I mean, I think if anything, in my

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experience, it's been they write everything and

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then you provide that last minute input. But

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I also don't want people to get the impression

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that you're only there to provide the last minute

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input because your input is equally as important.

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However, I mean, for the most part, I know for

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myself, I'm not an educational professional.

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I'm not a teacher. I'm not a paraprofessional.

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I'm not any of that. So I really do lean on them

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to be able to write those. I know that you have

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supported and that I have supported teachers

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who are also parents of children with disabilities.

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And again, that's a more unique situation to

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be in because you understand what it's like to

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be in a classroom. Yeah, that, yeah. I got into

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the weeds. Right. So when you're looking at your

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IEP, which I don't I don't have in front of me,

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but I highly encourage you to view our articulate

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on the deep dive in the IEP, because that's also

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going to go through early childhood and transition

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to adulthood. Right. And it'll show you page

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by page of the IEP. So if you're looking at the

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first page, the first thing that you're going

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to see is demographic information. And I. I strongly

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encourage you to double check that for so many

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different reasons. Yes. So people love to pronounce

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the name of the street that I live on wrong.

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And half the time I don't correct them because

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I'm like, what does it matter if the lady at

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Albertsons who hands me my son's meds doesn't

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know how to pronounce? Your street name. But

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I have found that that does become a problem

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if, let's say, for example, your child is melting

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down and they're trying to look at your demographic

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information to give you a call because that's

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part of your crisis plan or whatever the case

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may be. And not only is your street name spelt

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funny, but your phone number got transcribed

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and wrong, too. And then now they cannot contact

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you. So I strongly suggest everyone checks their

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demographic information, even if this is your

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first time it could have been transcribed wrong

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and then if it's your 100th time because this

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last year we our zip code just had randomly been

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changed we haven't moved since 2011 so always

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check it they finally took you from zones and

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gave you a zip code it's weird i don't know what

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it was and i don't know how i even caught it

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because that's not something i even keep my like

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look at because we have lived there for 11 years

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and it hasn't changed but it did i don't know

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so yes update your demographic just lay eyes

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on it yeah important for all of the reasons uh

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and then we're gonna another thing that that

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first page of iep is gonna do is check to see

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who's in attendance So are all of the people

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it's not that you need a quorum to have an IEP

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meeting but you kind of do are all of the people

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that are there that need to be there are they

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there now in some instances some school districts

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will continue to have a meeting if not all of

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the people are there. If yeah. but best practice

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again is that you know about that in advance

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and that you have signed agreeing to excuse that

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individual i have been in an iep meeting where

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the speech language pathologists needed to get

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up and go to support another student so we Reworked

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the agenda. Exactly. My brain just. Both of us

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just stopped working. Yes. So they changed the

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order in which the agenda was supposed to roll.

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So the speech language pathologist was able to

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go first so that they could then be excused.

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Perfect. So just remember that, too. And then

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everyone is going to sign their name that they

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were in attendance. Now, we're assuming that

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this is the very first IEP. Ever. In the state

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of Idaho, if it is your very first IEP ever,

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you are signing that you're in attendance and

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that you agree. However, if this is not your

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first IEP and this is just this year's evaluation,

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you're signing that you're in attendance only,

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not that you agree. I am assuming that we may

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have some individuals listening to this who may

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be coming from other states. I'm not saying that

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you're from California, but I am saying that

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I do know in California. Every time you sign

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an IEP, you're signing that you agree. And that

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is not true in the state of Idaho. No. And we

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get a lot of those calls. Yeah. We get a lot

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of those questions because in other states, states

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do things different. And the way Idaho does it,

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you are only signing for attendance. This is

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a question we see a lot in the Facebook groups.

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Don't sign it. Unfortunately, that's not accurate

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information. Parents absolutely have time after

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the IEP meeting to... till you know 10 days baby

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exactly to get in and lodge I don't want to say

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lodge their complaints but really um you know

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try to work with the team and figure out what

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they didn't like what they weren't agreeing to

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and then but you are only if it's if it's a second

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third fourth you're just signing that you are

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you were there in attendance exactly yeah but

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you have a lot of other options that you can

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do if for some reason you you're in a disagreement

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if you've signed and then you've gone home afterwards

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and you thought ah crud i don't really care for

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that that much then you still have things that

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you can do to go back another thing that happens

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on the first page that i think we get a lot of

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questions about is medicaid billing so when you

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sign or check the box and say yes that they can

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build medicaid on your behalf All that they're

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doing is getting some more money from the school.

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If you have a child with a developmental disability

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or a special health care need and you are accessing

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supports in the community through the family

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directed service pathway or the traditional pathway

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and you have received a budget from the Department

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of Health and Welfare, a lot of times parents

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become concerned that once they check that box,

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that means that that money is coming from their

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community supports budget. And I can assure you

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with every fiber of my being that it is not coming

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from your community supports budget. It is, in

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fact, just money from Medicaid to help support

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the school. Absolutely. School -based Medicaid

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is completely different from our home and community

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-based supports. They're different buckets. One

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is not going to affect the other. And you're

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right. A lot of times parents don't want to sign

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just because of that misinformation. Schools

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are not getting rich by billing Medicaid for

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our students. In fact, Medicaid reimbursement

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rates are below that of usually the community.

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i was just about to say schools aren't even breaking

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even when they build money they're not so this

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is just one more funding stream for them to both

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stream exactly and kids like my child are expensive

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he requires personal care support speech supports

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behavioral intervention so those are medicaid

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reimbursable services that the school can bill

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for and it helps offset some of his costs exactly

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yeah so it's one of those things where it's like

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i might i mean Any way I can help you, I can.

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Absolutely. And at any given time, if you sign

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that and don't and then want to pull that back,

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you can. No questions asked. No questions asked.

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Absolutely. So the next thing you're going to

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see on there is your plot, essentially the present

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levels of academic and functional performance.

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Sorry, I like to call it a benchmark. People

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just know what that means because we call it

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fancy things. Only because we like to, though.

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So it's a benchmark. It explains how learning

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differences affect your child's ability to access

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general education curriculum. It explains how

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your child handles academic subjects and everyday

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functional activities from socializing to tying

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shoelaces. And this is really important that

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you give your parent input. Yeah. On these benchmarks

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because you also are your child's. Right. Professional.

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If it's helpful. I would also like to say when

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you're providing these vignettes about your child

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to also contextualize it in your brain for academic

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settings. Yeah. Because a lot of times I go,

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well, that's never going to work. And then I'm

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only thinking about it in the context of home.

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And then I'm like, oh, my gosh, it might actually

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work at school because there's more kids acting

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as role models. So remember, before you give

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advice, to put it in the context of an academic

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setting and not a community support setting.

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Yeah. I've done that before. How many times have

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we heard? I mean, I've looked at my child's teacher

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and gone, you've got to be kidding me. He can

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do that? He does that at school? Exactly. Yeah.

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So yeah, think educationally context. So then

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we're going to move on. We've looked at from

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what you write in the PLAP and the PLOF and the

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benchmark section. From there, that's what they

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use to determine annual goals. So when they're

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talking about annual goals, they're going to

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say who, what's going to be achieved, what skill,

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what behavior, how, in what manner, at what level,

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where. In what setting and under which conditions

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and when, by what date and time. So we're setting

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these SMART goals, measurable, attainable, time

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bound. What's the S and the R, do you remember?

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Specific, measurable, attainable, realistic and

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time bound. We are realistic and timely. Yes,

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we did it. And that's the big thing, like how

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this is where you as a parent, you're going to

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know when they're collecting data. and when you

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can access that data so is it going to be weekly

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monthly how are they collecting it is observation

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is it you know it's good information in here

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also i'm going to take this part to say that

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you should be receiving those observational data

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that measurement at least concurrent with report

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cards if not more depending on how yeah reporting

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is done in your iep but it's at least concurrent

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with report cards so let's talk more about goals

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in specific strength based goals so these are

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goals that build on what your child does well

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while also acknowledging challenges but focusing

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on using their strengths to grow because how

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we talk about our children is sometimes who they

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become right and we've seen especially especially

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and maybe this is just me but in transition the

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language becomes even more important because

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the child is in the room. So I'm just going to

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give you some examples of some strength -based

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IEP goals that I made, and then Melissa will

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tell me if they pass or if they don't pass. There

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are no tricks. I feel like she's alive. So we're

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going to pretend that we know a child with autism.

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So given a visual schedule, Marcus will independently

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transition between classroom activities with

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no more than one prompt four out of five days

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of the week. Okay. That one seems good. I like

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that one. Yeah. Hopefully these are all good.

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None of these are a trick, I promise. So then

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I picked a student with ADHD who enjoys hands

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-on activities. Using a fidget tool and movement

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breaks, Janelle will complete multi -step assignments

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with 80 % accuracy in four out of five discrete

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trials. Yeah. I know when you're going to gather,

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how you're gathering, when you're gathering.

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Yeah. Yeah. And then this sets the teacher up

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to know, I'm going to need a fidget tool and

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I'm going to need movement breaks. Because it's

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not. Janelle really struggles with completing

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multi -step assignments. So going forward. Teacher

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will use a fidget tool and movement breaks. See,

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that was unnecessary. Yeah, just wording it that

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way, it doesn't make any sense. And oftentimes

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we see IEPs written that way, whether it is intentional

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or not, but it's not strength -based, and it

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sets that student up, unfortunately, just to

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be deficit -based. So we don't want that. No.

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Can I do one more, though? Oh, please. Can I

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just do one more? Because this one I was proud

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of. Okay. Given text -to -speech tools, Eli will

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summarize a grade -level passage orally with

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key details in three out of four opportunities.

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Wow. I know. Thank you. But that is a great use

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of assistive technology because a lot of times

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teams freak out. Yeah. When parents say, hey,

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wait, let's incorporate some assistive technology.

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Teams freak. Especially when you're using an

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AAC device that they're not trained on. Uh -huh.

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And justifiable. Those are great. Those are measurable.

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They're timely. That is exactly like having a

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student who comes in and nobody knows how to

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speak that language. That's exactly what it is.

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Because it's just a rare language from a country

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that's far away from us and we don't know how

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to speak it. But guess what? We're going to learn.

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Guess what? We're going to learn today. And now

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I feel really bad because I just dropped my kid

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off at school this morning with a teen that he's

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very... And you know what? They're going to learn.

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They're going to learn today. I haven't got a

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phone call, so... okay so now we've uh we've

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got some benchmarks we've written some goals

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so now we need to determine who is going to help

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them with these goals because we've decided that

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this child does need specialized instruction

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so we talk about special education and related

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supports we're looking at how often will the

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child receive these services so number of times

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per day or week How long each session will last.

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So that's the number of minutes for OT, occupational

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therapy, physical therapy, speech language pathology,

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behavioral intervention, positive behavioral

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interventions and supports, whatever your child

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is needing help with. And then where the services

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will be provided. So that can be in a push -in

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setting in the classroom or a pull -out setting.

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In a small group setting, in the special education

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classroom, in the resource room, and when services

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will begin and when they will end. So for my

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child, this looked like positive behavioral interventions

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and supports that he was pulled out of the classroom

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for and he went to the special education classroom.

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He did that three times a week. I don't know,

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20 minutes each time or something like that.

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But if you were getting behavioral intervention,

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one -to -one support too, that would also be

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found in that service minutes grid. So we have,

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especially last year, it really felt like this

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was a big hot topic last year. How do I figure

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out? in my child's IEP where his one -to -one

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is. And you're going to find it in that service

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grid. You can even go so far as to say, okay,

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well, if school starts at eight and it ends at

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three, this is how many minutes elapse between

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eight and three. And then you can go to your

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service grid and you can say, oh, 1 ,600 hours

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for one -to -one. Then you know you're hitting

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full -time support. So those are ways that you

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can do it without even needing to ask someone,

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I guess. And then you're going to look at placement.

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So this is really where we start talking about

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LRE or least restricted environment and how much

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time is a child spending with his typically developing

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peers. Because the goal is always to spend as

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much time with your typically developing peers

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as appropriate. And so that'll look like gen

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ed time. On an IEP. So you'll see, you know,

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how much is the student in a general education

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setting versus a special education setting. And

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there will be percentages. And as we move through

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and become more and more restrictive, we have

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different placement options that may. Right.

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Because you could have a child who is pulled

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out for math, but then spends all the rest of

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their time with their typically developing peers.

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Or alternatively, on the other end of the spectrum,

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you may have a child who only sees their typically

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developing peers at lunch or at a gymnasium.

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Adaptive PE or something like that. So I wanted

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to just read out some options. that we have seen

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in the state of Idaho of different least restrictive

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environments, because least restrictive environment

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is always supposed to be a philosophy and less

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of a place. But the philosophy also has to take

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place somewhere. So it could be. One of these

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classrooms, a combination of these classrooms,

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and the way it can fluctuate over the school

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year is also important. So just because you get

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an Excel, an Ascent, an SLC classroom, Structured

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Learning Center, doesn't mean that you're going

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to be in there forever. Okay, again, sorry. Here

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are some options. The general education classroom,

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the general education classroom with supports.

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a self -contained special education classroom,

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a private school with a program or teaching style

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that meets a specific need, a state school like

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the School for the Deaf and the Blind over in

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Gooding, a homebound instruction, online school,

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residential care, treatment facility, and again,

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any combination of those above. So another thing

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that you're going to see on there is accommodations

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and modifications. So accommodations, again,

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are changes to how a student learns. So that's

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going back up to that IEP goal of that student

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who needed a fidget spinner or who needed extra

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time or movement breaks. Those are all accommodations

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versus a modification, which is what's really.

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separating out an IEP from a 504, which is that

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you need that specially designed instruction.

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So that's when that one student went to math

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class. They left the typical education classroom

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and went to a different room to do math. And

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that was their modification. So you're going

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to get like a service delivery statement. Right.

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Can you give some more examples of modifications?

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Because I can't come up with them off the top

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of my head because I didn't really. Well, I mean,

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any modification to curriculum. So, for example,

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my son is a ninth grader. He is not doing ninth

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grade algebra. But instead, a math equivalent

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for his developmental age is sorting activities.

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So we are very much altering his curriculum.

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We're modifying his curriculum. He still has

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math curriculum. Exactly. It's just not what

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his typical peers in ninth grade are doing. It's

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what's appropriate for him. Absolutely. But no

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matter what, when you send your son to school,

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you know he's doing reading. I know he's doing

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math. It's just whatever is appropriate. How

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are we modifying it for that student? Yeah. And

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we're also going to head into a section called

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Participation in State Local District Assessments.

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And I think that almost everyone participates

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in assessments. And again. just like their all

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of their education it's to what extent is appropriate

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for them so in some cases that looks like a child

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who completes the whole assessment or gets through

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the first 20 questions or just clicks through

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one right yep okay whatever that student needs

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Yeah. And I kind of look at it and my student

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is one of those that probably clicks through

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two or three. But I kind of look at as it all

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of his peers get that opportunity and he needs

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that opportunity as well. So whether or not he

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accesses the entirety of it, no big deal. He

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has the opportunity to access it in whatever

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capacity works for him. And that's another that's

00:26:23.470 --> 00:26:27.880
another really good segue into. It may be different

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in the great state of Ada versus other parts

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of the state of Idaho. So a parent may call and

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say, my child is only going to school four days

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a week. And the first question is always going

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to be, do the general education students go to

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school four days a week? Because if the answer

00:26:43.980 --> 00:26:47.079
to that is yes, your child is a general education

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student before they are a special education student.

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So if all students only go to school four days

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a week, then your student will only go to school

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four days a week. Exactly. It's that. If all

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students start at 9 p .m. or 9 a .m., sorry,

00:27:02.150 --> 00:27:04.470
then you're going to start at 9 a .m. Yes. It

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becomes a problem. When we are shortening school

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days for special education. When your child needs

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to get on the bus 30 minutes before the school

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day starts. That's when we start asking some

00:27:16.789 --> 00:27:21.279
questions. So what if made it to the IEP? What

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are we going to do if something doesn't feel

00:27:23.779 --> 00:27:29.359
right with goal services placement? Well, first

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off, you can always put it in writing. Yeah.

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Always put it in writing and say, I have, I would

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like to make a formal dispute. And I know that

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those sound like scary words, but they're really

00:27:42.019 --> 00:27:45.500
not. I just, I would like the team to meet again

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so that we can talk about. some of the things

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that I noticed that we only have 30 minutes of

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behavioral intervention in our service grid and

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I just think that given Janelle's eligibility

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report she could really benefit from more time

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can I can we me and then we can go over why it

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was 30 minutes do we think that maybe it'll restrict

00:28:08.609 --> 00:28:11.869
her Independence if she has more time are we

00:28:11.869 --> 00:28:14.589
just kind of trying to it's really just bringing

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the conversation and that's I guess the Thing

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that I want people to leave with, you always

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have the right to call an IEP meeting, whether

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it's off cycle or not. You always have that right.

00:28:26.619 --> 00:28:29.619
Put it in writing. Always. But you always are

00:28:29.619 --> 00:28:32.319
within your rights to call a team meeting and

00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.299
get everybody on board. So you're sitting here

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right now listening to this and school has not

00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:43.200
started yet or school has just started. I tried

00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.740
to time these to where they would all be out

00:28:45.740 --> 00:28:48.460
before school started. And that, you know, really

00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:50.319
just did not work in my favor. But holy cow,

00:28:50.420 --> 00:28:53.059
school started so early. I know. I was not ready

00:28:53.059 --> 00:28:54.980
for school to start. So what do you do today?

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I would say that number one, you can always,

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especially if this is not your first IEP, request

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a draft ahead of the meeting. Review it. Be prepared.

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Use that small window of time that you have with

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the staff. Use it wisely by knowing what's coming.

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Yeah, absolutely. Review the evaluation. Review

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the eligibility. Write down your questions. Say,

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hey, we're just coming off the summer. There

00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.700
could be new skills that have been gained. You

00:29:25.700 --> 00:29:28.660
might say, you might get the old IEP and say,

00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:30.660
oh my gosh, like we already know how to do this.

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I think that we need to call a meeting earlier

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than normal so we can all come back together,

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meet, and I can say, hey, so -and -so developed

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this skill over the summer. I think we might

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.299
need to readjust and it might need some new assessments.

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And that's okay. And the team actually wants

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that input from you. They want all input. They

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do. They really do. Come with a list of strengths.

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Again, if your child gained a new skill, request

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specific supports and services. Come with your

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data. Come with your data. So, for instance,

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I could say, oh, my son, over the summer, he

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went from four hours of therapy a week to 29

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hours of therapy a week over the summer. And,

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oh, my gosh, the leaps and bounds of great things

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that he did. over this summer have been astronomical.

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And you have the data to support. But my question

00:30:21.410 --> 00:30:23.569
also becomes, how do we translate those skills

00:30:23.569 --> 00:30:28.009
into the school setting? On another podcast.

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Exactly. Bring a family member, bring a friend.

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This is the time to make sure that, hey, I'm

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going to request this IEP meeting. I'm going

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to ask for it. You know, as soon as possible.

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But if they give me some dates, can you, I'll

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shoot them to you so you can come with me. Speak

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up if you need more time. If you need a break.

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Okay, yeah. In the IEP meeting, I need to go

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get a drink of water. I need to go to the hall

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:53.240
and collect myself. 100%. I need to pop a piece

00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.220
of chocolate in. Yeah, something. And also, just

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remember that, you know, someone could be working

00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.279
through their lunch. Someone, you could have

00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.839
just been. gotten off the phone with medicaid

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it could be a hundred handful of different things

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just just by two cents so today we've covered

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steps five and six so scheduling the meeting

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and holding the meeting and these are arguably

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kind of the crux of the whole special education

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.750
process is really this iep meeting And when it's

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written with your input and built around strengths,

00:31:32.450 --> 00:31:38.150
it becomes more than a legal document. It's really

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a plan for the child and it's used faithfully.

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So next time we're going to dive into step seven

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and eight, which means there's only two parts

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left of this. And this from here on kind of becomes

00:31:50.500 --> 00:31:55.480
how to adjust the IEP, how to adapt it, what

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happens at the three -year mark, because no matter

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what, you're getting more assessments than two.

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So until then, please remember that you know

00:32:04.019 --> 00:32:06.460
your child best. Please reach out to us. If you

00:32:06.460 --> 00:32:10.059
have any questions, go forth and be a great member

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of the IEP team. That was like Daniel Tiger.

00:32:13.059 --> 00:32:17.430
Great. Daniel Tiger. The frosted blade. You're

00:32:17.430 --> 00:32:20.410
great. Daniel. Daniel Tiger would have been like,

00:32:20.450 --> 00:32:25.990
you're great. I'm great. We're great. I believe

00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:36.269
you on that one. Bye. Thank you so much, everyone

00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:39.269
out there for listening in. If you are in Idaho

00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:42.970
or planning on moving to Idaho and have any questions

00:32:42.970 --> 00:32:45.730
on systems or services for children with disabilities,

00:32:45.990 --> 00:32:49.549
please consider reaching out to us on our website

00:32:49.549 --> 00:32:59.109
at iPullIdaho .org or by calling us at 208 -342

00:32:59.109 --> 00:33:03.349
-5884. Be sure to tune in next time. Until then,

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this has been Unlimited Parenting. Thanks for

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listening!
