1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,600 Welcome to Unlimited Parenting where we discuss what it's like having children with disabilities 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 and or special health care needs. 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Both. 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Why not? 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,520 Why not? 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:24,960 And we are here today with another installment of IPUL Found It on Facebook. 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:31,480 This is a series where myself and Melissa and other IPUL staff members will go through 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,720 local Idaho Facebook groups and find questions that we will give in-depth answers to here 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,160 on this podcast. 10 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:40,800 So with me today is Melissa. 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Welcome Melissa. 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,800 Hello. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Thanks for having me again. 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 You're so welcome. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,600 Thank you for coming even though you don't have a choice. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,240 Today we are answering four questions. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,240 All right. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,200 So buckle up and prepare yourself. 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Only four? 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Only four. 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Those Facebook groups are wild. 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,200 You just picked a good one. 23 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,320 They have a lot of really good conversations but I also want to stay away from what is 24 00:01:05,320 --> 00:01:08,840 your favorite name of service, right? 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Who's your favorite OT? 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Yeah. 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,400 So if we weed out some of those questions we get to ones like these. 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,400 Okay. 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,400 Good. 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,840 So the first one is have you ever heard of the Talking Book Service? 31 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,560 I have heard of it. 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,520 And that is the exact same way that I felt when I read that comment. 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,520 Yes. 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Have I heard of it? 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Yes. 36 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,720 Do I know how to link you to it? 37 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Yes. 38 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Yes. 39 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,720 I could do that. 40 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,960 But do I know a lot more about it? 41 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,140 Not as much as I should. 42 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:39,600 So I took this opportunity. 43 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,600 Yay. 44 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,600 To educate. 45 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,600 To educate all of us. 46 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Okay. 47 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:50,480 As always the link to this will be provided in the description box below but it's IdahoTalkingBooks.org 48 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,000 and as you can imagine this is linked through the library. 49 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,280 That's where I've heard about it is our friends at the Commission on the Libraries. 50 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,400 But you're going to elaborate. 51 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,400 A little bit. 52 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,400 Okay. 53 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Yeah. 54 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,400 And hopefully now everyone knows more too. 55 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Okay. 56 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,320 So it is lovingly referred to as TBS, not Taking Back Sunday for those elder millennials, 57 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,800 but Idaho Talking Book Service. 58 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,200 You don't know Taking Back Sunday? 59 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,520 I'm not an elder millennial. 60 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,880 I'm 18 myself. 61 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,840 I'm not a boomer either but I'm in my... 62 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,120 You really don't know Taking Back Sunday? 63 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,120 No I don't. 64 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,120 I'm a veteran. 65 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,120 It's a band. 66 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,120 What? 67 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,120 I don't know that. 68 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,120 No. 69 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Do you know My Chemical Romance? 70 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Yeah. 71 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:36,080 The Idaho Talking Book Service is a free, everyone's favorite word, convenient audiobook library 72 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:44,640 service for Idahoans who are unable to read standard print due to things like low vision, 73 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:49,720 blindness, perceptual or even a reading disability. 74 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:55,640 And I don't know why but that last one was something that I had not considered. 75 00:02:55,640 --> 00:03:01,080 Of course that should be accessible to you if you had a reading disability. 76 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:06,160 The service is completely free for users who receive titles by downloading them and or 77 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:12,560 having the materials mailed directly to them at their residence at no cost. 78 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,560 Wow. 79 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Really? 80 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Yes. 81 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,080 So cartridges like the old school way, like eight tracks almost. 82 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,080 Okay. 83 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Or accessing so I'm assuming CDs, cassettes. 84 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Wow. 85 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Okay. 86 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Did you ever... 87 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,040 I had no idea. 88 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,680 Did you ever pop a cassette in to listen to a book back in the day? 89 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,680 No. 90 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,680 I did. 91 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,680 You did? 92 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Mm-hmm. 93 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,680 I read a lot of Tolstoy that way just listening to it in the car. 94 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,680 It's dry. 95 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,680 It's hard to read. 96 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,680 I'm sure. 97 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,320 So even even me, an individual with no supports for visual... 98 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,320 You were using... 99 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:54,120 I was using it without ever even thinking of who the intended audience was. 100 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Well, isn't that the same thing with a lot of assistive technology? 101 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,960 It starts off as assistive technology for people with disabilities and then it becomes 102 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,080 this mass movement of everyone. 103 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,080 It's universal. 104 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Everyone's using it. 105 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,080 It's universal design. 106 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Originally, technology like that was so astronomically expensive and it wasn't accessible for the 107 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,200 masses. 108 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,640 And then technology became what it is. 109 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Apple became what it is and now we have tablets that are accessible for everyone. 110 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,600 And then we can put programs on it like AAC devices, those types of things. 111 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,600 So there you go. 112 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,600 That's one. 113 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,600 I love it. 114 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Even though you didn't ask for it. 115 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,600 I did. 116 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,600 You did. 117 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,600 That's right. 118 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,600 Never mind. 119 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Did you know that the Idaho Talking Book Service, again, lovingly referred to as TBS, not Taking 120 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:46,400 Max Sunday, is available to Idaho residents in any of the following categories? 121 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Yes, please. 122 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,400 No. 123 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:55,200 I just remembered how I have heard about the Talking Book Service. 124 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,160 Fred Riggers, when hit. 125 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,080 So Fred Riggers, for all of us in Idaho, was a disability champion. 126 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,640 And every February we celebrate Disability Awareness Day down at the state capitol and 127 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,120 we lovingly refer to it as Fred Riggers Disability Awareness Day. 128 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Last year when his daughter gave the speech, because Fred is no longer with us, his daughter 129 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,080 talked about how Fred, because Fred lost his vision later in life. 130 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Because he was a farmer as a farmer. 131 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,440 He started accessing the Talking Book Service. 132 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,740 That's how I have heard of it. 133 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:30,080 How have I forgotten that story? 134 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,920 I don't know, but that I just put two and two together. 135 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,800 So Fred Riggers is our connection to the Talking Book Service. 136 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,360 I have a friend in his long hair and a tie. 137 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,240 So I just made that connection and that's how I've heard of it. 138 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,000 I'm sure our friends at the Commission on the Libraries have talked about it extensively 139 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,760 as well, but I know it from Fred Riggers and his daughter talking to us about it last year 140 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,400 at Disability Awareness Day. 141 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,840 Well squirrel, sorry. 142 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:58,920 No, something tells me that Fred Riggers would have accessed it as an individual who is blind 143 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:04,200 or has a visual impairment that makes them unable to comfortably read books with print, 144 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,200 which I love that. 145 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,600 I love the language that the Talking Book Service uses. 146 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,720 If you can comfortably read it. 147 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,640 It makes it sound less, what's the word? 148 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:16,640 You know the flailing. 149 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Durable medical equipment. 150 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,920 More access to everyday information. 151 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,240 It's regular everyday people. 152 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Or an individual who has a perceptual or reading disability. 153 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,840 An individual who has a physical disability that makes it difficult to hold or manipulate 154 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,480 a book, i.e. turning pages. 155 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Or to focus or move their eyes as needed to read a print book. 156 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:47,280 Or facilities like schools, hospitals, nursing homes that regularly serve clientele meeting 157 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:50,420 eligibility requirements. 158 00:06:50,420 --> 00:06:57,200 And you may be asking yourself, Allison, this sounds like an audiobook, like Audible. 159 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,360 That is, I was actually going to ask you that. 160 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,360 Where you read my mind. 161 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Well thank you, because I would love to tell you why. 162 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:10,480 So there's two reasons where it's more accessible and different than an audiobook. 163 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,880 So the first is, once your application is approved, you or your caregiver will receive 164 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,540 a phone call from the Talking Book Service. 165 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:22,240 They're going to set you up an account in a way that works best for you. 166 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,520 You're not going to get that from Audible. 167 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,640 Maybe you love westerns. 168 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Or you can't get enough of biographies. 169 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:35,000 There are more than a hundred thousand fiction and nonfiction audiobook titles available, 170 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:41,480 along with 70 magazines and a selection of locally recorded audiobooks and magazines 171 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,960 about Idaho and the northwest. 172 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,960 You're kidding, that is so cool. 173 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,960 How cool is that? 174 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,120 You're not going to get that on Audible. 175 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,120 No. 176 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,320 The individual who helps you set up your account can even find books just from the name of 177 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,320 a character. 178 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,720 You're basically getting a curated service. 179 00:07:58,720 --> 00:07:59,720 You are. 180 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Isn't that wild? 181 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:07,340 There's also an online catalog to search for available titles and new patrons narrow down 182 00:08:07,340 --> 00:08:08,480 their reading choices. 183 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,040 They decide how many audiobooks they would like to receive and how often. 184 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:19,520 Again, that is something that's different from, let's say, just our regular local library, 185 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,920 their audiobook selection, right? 186 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,000 You don't get to decide how many you want. 187 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,520 I mean, you have a cap. 188 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,480 You can only pick so many. 189 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Another way it's different than a service such as Audible or potentially just the traditional 190 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:42,200 library is that you can also download titles to a computer or a device via Braille and 191 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,480 audio reading download, BARD. 192 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:53,400 BARD Express is an easy way for patrons to access BARD on their computer, which is amazing. 193 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:59,520 And not only that, but you can receive help with BARD from a customer service representative 194 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,600 if you're having some kind of technical difficulties. 195 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:08,800 The way the library as a whole just bends over backwards to assist people is something 196 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,120 that will never not be heartwarming to me. 197 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,120 I agree. 198 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Well, hardly. 199 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,920 It is just...and you know I don't take advantage of the library as often as I should. 200 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,280 You know that I'm a bad person. 201 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,280 I'm a bad citizen. 202 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,440 I could live at the library. 203 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,800 I know this is so cool. 204 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,320 My son has all of these. 205 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,880 This is absolutely a service that we could be accessing. 206 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,320 And I could tell them that I want books that are all about Bluey. 207 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,200 I could pick a character and have it curated for Reese. 208 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,880 What are some topics that would interest him? 209 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:48,660 That while not the same as the Talking Books Service, the library also has those Tony boxes. 210 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:53,520 So you could borrow a Tony box and then borrow the Bluey figurine. 211 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Yeah, you can try it before you buy it. 212 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,360 I didn't have the Tony box. 213 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,360 Melissa, hold on. 214 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Are you seated? 215 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,840 I'm wearing your seatbelt. 216 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,980 At the library, you can check out Nintendo Switch games. 217 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:07,800 You can check out other console games. 218 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,320 You can check out like regular board games. 219 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,800 Some locations you can check out like a fishing pole. 220 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,800 What? 221 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,000 The way you can get anything at the library. 222 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,920 This is turning into a library podcast. 223 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,920 I love the library. 224 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Wow. 225 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,920 I love the library. 226 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Okay. 227 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,400 Again, this will be in the description box, but I'm going to include the phone number, 228 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:32,400 the email, the address, which if you're not local to the Treasure Valley, it is in Boise. 229 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,400 It's off State Street. 230 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Okay. 231 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,920 But again, like I mentioned before, they can mail you. 232 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,920 Okay. 233 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:38,920 So any Idaho resident? 234 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:39,920 Any Idaho resident. 235 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,920 Okay. 236 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,560 The hours are just your typical Monday through Friday, 8 to 5. 237 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:46,560 Yay. 238 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:49,920 So thank you for adding that little caveat about Fredriggers though, because that really 239 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,320 brings life to this section. 240 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,320 I love that. 241 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,000 I cannot believe that I forgot about that from last year. 242 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,120 I just connected for some reason. 243 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,840 I was like hyperglycemic from eating too many cookies. 244 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Maybe. 245 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,840 Or sexy. 246 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Yeah. 247 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,840 Disability Awareness Day will do that to you. 248 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,840 There's a lot of cookies. 249 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,400 There's a lot of cookies. 250 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:13,160 This next question, I want you to keep it very realistic, nothing fancy-pancy. 251 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Just tell what you really do. 252 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:21,600 And I think I specifically picked this question because I would like to bring to light everybody 253 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,400 struggles with this. 254 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,500 There is no perfect person. 255 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:28,920 There can be perfect days. 256 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,480 And remember, social media is a liar. 257 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,320 And so if they show you one thing, the other side of the room may look completely different. 258 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:44,240 So having said all of that, the question is, how do you keep your house clean when you 259 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,560 have children with disabilities? 260 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:50,980 The answer is nothing is ever clean. 261 00:11:50,980 --> 00:11:52,360 This is your life now. 262 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,360 Yeah. 263 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Yeah. 264 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,440 I will tell you, we got a robot vacuum and that was helpful. 265 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,440 Clean Latifa. 266 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,040 She named her robot vacuum Clean Latifa. 267 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:10,040 And she removes one task daily that I always had to do when we got, you know, with dogs 268 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,840 and kids and all of that. 269 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,840 So that was helpful. 270 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,960 It's never clean. 271 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,160 It's always three steps forward, two steps forward, three steps back. 272 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,400 But that's still two steps forward. 273 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Yeah, you're right. 274 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,400 And I guess that's what I do. 275 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,640 I really try to pick a room a day and that's what we do. 276 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,640 That's smart. 277 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:37,280 So when I was a stay at home mom, which hands down the hardest job I've ever had in my life. 278 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,000 I would absolutely agree. 279 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,760 When I was a stay at home mom, that's what I did. 280 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,600 I had this like weekly schedule. 281 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:48,320 Saturday and Sunday was like the yard and Monday was the kids rooms and Tuesday was 282 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,320 a bathroom. 283 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,120 And that's kind of how I survived. 284 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Yeah. 285 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:59,160 But now that I'm not a stay at home mom, and I obviously work a little bit at least, I 286 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:07,300 do have a system, but I don't know if it's sustainable for me. 287 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:10,360 But I don't know if that's because I am who I am. 288 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,360 You know what I mean? 289 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Okay, so here we go. 290 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,320 I do... 291 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,560 I'm laughing because some people will say, you know, sitting down is like the arch nemesis 292 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:21,560 to cleaning. 293 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,840 Like if you sit down, you'll never get back up again and finish. 294 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,040 If you had the gumption and you were cleaning and then you're like, I'm going to take a 295 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,040 little break. 296 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,040 And then you never come back. 297 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Yeah. 298 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,040 I'm the opposite of that. 299 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:36,200 So what I do is I take an hour and I split it up. 300 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,620 So I'll do 20 minutes on, so 20 minutes of a task and then 40 minutes off, 40 minutes 301 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:43,840 of doing whatever I want. 302 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,600 And I do that from the moment I get home from work until I go to bed. 303 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,400 And I've been doing that for five and a half months now. 304 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,200 And my husband made fun of me in a loving, sweet way. 305 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,880 He kind of like, this will never last. 306 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,300 Like that doesn't sound sustainable at all. 307 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:04,440 I don't know what it is, but that has clicked for me. 308 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,240 It's 21 days to form a habit. 309 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,240 Right? 310 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,240 You did it. 311 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Exactly. 312 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,000 I did it, but I don't know why that that works. 313 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:20,080 I think it's kind of because I love these little blips on YouTube, these little shows 314 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,320 that the channels that I sub, the shows are 30 minutes. 315 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Okay. 316 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,000 So in that 40 minute of your downtime, right? 317 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,580 So 30 minutes off, I watch a show and then I pop up and I clean for 20 minutes. 318 00:14:31,580 --> 00:14:35,340 And I have this like almost down to a science. 319 00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:40,960 So sometimes I'll set like a visual timer that we have for our kids and I'll set it 320 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,620 up and I'll watch 20 minutes tick away. 321 00:14:43,620 --> 00:14:47,520 Sometimes I'll get an audio book and then I'll set the timer on the audio book so it 322 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320 just cuts off after 20 minutes. 323 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Or I pick three to four songs that equate to exactly 20 minutes. 324 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,480 And I have them in a playlist in my phone. 325 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,280 Is your 20 minute cleaning playlist? 326 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Yeah. 327 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,280 But I use several. 328 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,160 I can get like different kinds of variety. 329 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,420 But then I know, right? 330 00:15:07,420 --> 00:15:10,080 Because there's a different- Cleaning needs different music. 331 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,080 Exactly. 332 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Sometimes Lil Jon and the East Side Boys. 333 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,520 And then other times is Katie Lang. 334 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,840 You never know what you're going to get. 335 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,640 Katie Lang is not where I thought we were going. 336 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,640 So you're right. 337 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,560 You never know with Alison what you're going to get. 338 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,720 I don't think that's the- I could never do that. 339 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,880 But I feel like also it really breaks it down. 340 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,920 So like, okay, I'll give you another example of why I think this works for me. 341 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,920 And you know what? 342 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Sometimes- It doesn't happen. 343 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,600 So what you do is you pick those little tasks for 20 minutes. 344 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,600 And you know what? 345 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,200 It's up to you how you use those 20 minutes. 346 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,160 So you could be- it could take you 20 minutes to clean a bathroom sink. 347 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,720 How motivated are you, right? 348 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,640 So sometimes I'm out here cleaning a whole bathroom in 20 minutes and sometimes I'm like, 349 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,980 oh, I missed a spot on the sink. 350 00:15:57,980 --> 00:16:00,400 And it's still, you know, it's up to you. 351 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,720 But I still think like, oh, I still clean for 20 minutes. 352 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,380 So here, let me give you a real example of why this works. 353 00:16:06,380 --> 00:16:10,560 So sometimes I look at a big task and I'm like, I'm never- I can't, I don't have the 354 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,600 energy to do that. 355 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Do as much as you can in 20 minutes. 356 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,600 So I have an island in my kitchen. 357 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,400 And on one side of it is the sink, on the other side of it is the bar stools. 358 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,820 And my children, for whatever reason, will not take off their shoes. 359 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:37,080 So they kick at this island and it's just Nutella and shoe marks and Crayola marker. 360 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,120 And I look at it and I go home and I start crying, right? 361 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,880 Like the bane of my existence. 362 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,880 I tell you what, you can get that thing so clean in 20 minutes. 363 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,160 You just get a magic eraser out. 364 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,560 And you feel so good afterwards because then the little piece board right underneath of 365 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,240 it is clean and you can vacuum and you don't even have to mop. 366 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,600 You just get those like Lysol or Clorox wipes, put them on your feet and just scrub at the 367 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,600 floor. 368 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:05,080 20 minutes goes by and you're like, holy crap, this looks so nice. 369 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,840 And you know what that does, my friend? 370 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,800 It motivates you. 371 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,000 So then you have an option. 372 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,920 You can say, hey, I am so motivated. 373 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,620 I'm going to keep cleaning or I'm going to take my 40 minute break. 374 00:17:15,620 --> 00:17:17,440 Sometimes I just keep on going. 375 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 You just need a little bit to get you started. 376 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,920 It doesn't sound like this plan would work for you though. 377 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:22,920 I don't know. 378 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,320 I need some kind of a plan, but I look, but maybe it would because I look at the heaping 379 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,160 pile of laundry and I'm like, nah, it'll be there tomorrow. 380 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,920 We got enough clothes left. 381 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,560 See and I'm right because we do. 382 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,040 It's really funny that you bring that up. 383 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:45,080 I will just out myself right here and right now on air live. 384 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,760 I love doing laundry. 385 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,960 I know, I know. 386 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,200 I just tanked in the poles. 387 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,200 I am so unrelatable and unlovable. 388 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,400 People are going to stop listening. 389 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,400 Thanks a lot. 390 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,720 You can do sit down and fold it. 391 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Sometimes, sometimes I stand up and watch a show. 392 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Do you know what else? 393 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,280 You know what else? 394 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,680 That 20 minutes or whatever, 40 minutes in downtime. 395 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,880 I fold laundry in my day. 396 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,240 So I could do, I do that. 397 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,520 And I guess that's why I get mad. 398 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,800 Like I'm like, this is my time. 399 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,800 This is my time. 400 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,440 Because I'm not doing my laundry, I'm doing everyone else's. 401 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,160 See, and yes, that's my problem. 402 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,560 I know we've been about this. 403 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,000 I can get behind the washing, the drying and the folding. 404 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,200 I truly don't like putting it away. 405 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,200 Yeah. 406 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,200 I don't like putting it away. 407 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,200 What I hate are socks. 408 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,200 I just hate socks. 409 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,600 There's six people in our house. 410 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,400 A lot of them have the same size feet and it is so hard. 411 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,560 Do you just put, I have different kind of socks because they're all weirdos and like 412 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:46,800 different kind of things. 413 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,000 And so I don't do this personally, but I had a friend growing up. 414 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,000 I would always go over to her house and her mom kept all of the socks in a laundry basket 415 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,320 and you had to fend for yourself. 416 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,920 That's what we, that's how much she hated folding socks. 417 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,960 That is the current situation of the morning. 418 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,560 And I support the buying house. 419 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,560 I do. 420 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,640 It is a community sock ban and it is fair all the way. 421 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,800 We're just pulling socks out. 422 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,920 But you know what? 423 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,640 Your kids have socks and that's all that matters. 424 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,640 You're exactly right. 425 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,080 They might not match, but they have socks on. 426 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,200 Reese doesn't care. 427 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,440 A couple of other things, but I appreciate that. 428 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:27,920 I think as a special needs family, we need more of a routine for our cleaning. 429 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,480 So I can get behind this. 430 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,000 It works for some people, but it doesn't work for others. 431 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Once a routine. 432 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,600 I mean, I, yeah, we got to get through some sports seasons. 433 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,800 I think that's what's killing me. 434 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,800 Right? 435 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Yeah. 436 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Yeah. 437 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,800 I don't know, but you're right. 438 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,160 A routine would be really helpful. 439 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,120 So take what resonates and we expect doesn't. 440 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,120 Right? 441 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:52,880 So here's a few more things I thought of and or read. 442 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,560 Number one, like you, we've kind of already touched on this, try to build in habits. 443 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,680 This is something that I heard about on TikTok and I think it's kind of like my system just 444 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:09,680 on the other side of the continuum where this woman has said every time she does something, 445 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,640 she kind of just cleans up. 446 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,340 Not like cleaning up after herself or cleaning as you go, but she's brushing her teeth and 447 00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:20,960 while she's brushing her teeth, she leaves her bathroom and just cleans her kids sink. 448 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,800 She like does like with like. 449 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Okay. 450 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,160 So she's and that's a tasking. 451 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,160 Yeah. 452 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,040 That's a system that really worked for her. 453 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,160 You know, you gave me a really good idea a while ago and I did it for a while. 454 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Oh my God. 455 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,160 I saw it. 456 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,160 I'm gonna write that down. 457 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,160 I write that down. 458 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,160 This is going to be on a plaque in her office. 459 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,160 Okay. 460 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,120 So everyone knows. 461 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:46,480 I got a new washer and dryer and it has the ability to do a delayed wash and so for a 462 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,340 while I was really, really getting in the habit of leaving for work, putting a load 463 00:20:51,340 --> 00:20:56,000 in setting it as a delayed wash so that it would be done right when I got home to be 464 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,360 able to move that to the dryer and that worked. 465 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:00,960 It was really sustainable and I need to get back in the habit of that. 466 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,960 I forgot about that. 467 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,720 That was a good use of a system. 468 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,280 You forgot about that? 469 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,280 I forgot. 470 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,280 I don't know what happened. 471 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,240 I just squirreled and I went on and I got something else. 472 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,240 Yeah. 473 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,240 Yeah. 474 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Someone needs something. 475 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,040 My problem is if I lose one day, I can't get off of our routine. 476 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,040 That is really hard. 477 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Yeah. 478 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,040 That is really hard. 479 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,040 It's only gonna get better. 480 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,040 I'll text. 481 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,040 That was a really good idea. 482 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,040 Yeah, you text me. 483 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Okay. 484 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Every morning. 485 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Put your laundry in. 486 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Another one that I read, which okay, from here on out, some of these are going to seem fairly 487 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:37,240 obvious but decluttering I think is something and this kind of pairs in with the next one 488 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,000 I decluttered last night at my coat closet and always remembered I have them in my car 489 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000 for you. 490 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Yes, I love a good coat. 491 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,040 I guess I do, Dookie. 492 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,360 So yeah, decluttering and that pairs with something else, which is evaluating the function 493 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:57,120 of the items that you have in your home and I think that this really resonated with me 494 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:05,200 as a special needs parent because I love the little choch keys and you know what? 495 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:12,880 I'll be darned if those don't get broken or lost or in some cases used as a weapon but 496 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:23,040 I have to look at that from a mom perspective, a mom of a parent of a child with disabilities 497 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,040 and say I love this. 498 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,160 I'm gonna wrap it in bubble wrap and maybe it'll come out again someday. 499 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,140 It doesn't mean I need to get rid of it but I need to evaluate the function of my home. 500 00:22:32,140 --> 00:22:37,120 Another way that I did that is our dining room. 501 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,440 We don't have a table in our dining room. 502 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,820 We eat at the counter like I mentioned. 503 00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:48,440 That area now has a swing and a crash pad and all kinds of stuff. 504 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,020 Evaluate your rooms and how to, you know what? 505 00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:54,780 Sometimes you might love a shag house. 506 00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:59,160 You might love a shag carpet but maybe this is not the season of your, I mean really is 507 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,160 there any season? 508 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,720 I don't know why I prefer a shag carpet but maybe. 509 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,560 I got a lamp for the first time like two years ago. 510 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:13,000 We were not a lamp family because lamps would be either knocked over or thrown over or run 511 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,720 into or we couldn't be a lamp family and then we got to that stage where we couldn't. 512 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,720 But now you can. 513 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,720 Yeah, now you can. 514 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,720 Yes. 515 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,080 So I think that's another way to maintain cleanliness is don't, I guess at the end of 516 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,600 the day what I'm trying to say is don't break your back trying to clean something if it's 517 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,880 just something that you're cleaning. 518 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,640 And saying that just makes me think throw the kids out, right? 519 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,080 Because if you can't, then they'll let you. 520 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Another thing. 521 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080 I don't give a fuck. 522 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Right. 523 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,440 The old reliable's, right? 524 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,580 Lean on a family member, have someone come and help you clean. 525 00:23:49,580 --> 00:23:55,360 Maybe even do that like parallel play where you have someone with you to watch you clean 526 00:23:55,360 --> 00:24:00,120 that can sometimes help motivate people and make it a game with your kid to the extent 527 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:05,400 that they're able to help with chores, whether that's developmentally or physically to the 528 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,440 extent that they're able. 529 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,560 My son thinks it's so fun to put the laundry away. 530 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,560 Really? 531 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,560 He loves it. 532 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,560 And I'm like, hey, guess what? 533 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,560 I'm done, Jack. 534 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,560 You put it away. 535 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,560 I'll show him where everything goes. 536 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,560 And then he goes, Silas, this is not where the shirts belong. 537 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,560 Oh my God. 538 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,560 I've never lived anything more. 539 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,560 That's funny. 540 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,560 All right. 541 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,800 That's what we have. 542 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,000 We hope you liked some part of that. 543 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:37,520 And I mean, feel free to send us a form telling us what you liked and we can include it. 544 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Can I add one other thing? 545 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Please do. 546 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:50,120 I would say if you are struggling, if you are a family that has a child with very complex 547 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:54,080 and fragile medical needs in the Treasure Valley, there is an organization called Raise For 548 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,200 Rare that will help families out with housecleaning. 549 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,760 So if there's maybe if this was a family member on Facebook that was reaching out because they 550 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,920 are just spent and their child is very medically fragile and they don't have the ability to 551 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,600 clean their house, I don't know what the context of this question was, but Raise For Rare is 552 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,480 a rare, is an organization for rare families that can help with some of those things. 553 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,600 So I would just plug that. 554 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,600 I love it. 555 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,600 Yeah. 556 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,280 They're not coming to my mind. 557 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,280 It's not an organization that's going to help families that have behavioral needs. 558 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:33,320 It is an organization specifically for families with rare diagnosis and diseases that are 559 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,040 very, very medically complex. 560 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,800 So yeah, if it's applicable, let that be a resource that you lean on. 561 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Right? 562 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Sorry. 563 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,800 That was just a thought I had. 564 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,800 No, it was wonderful. 565 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,800 Thank you. 566 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Last but not least, the final question, what is an ABLE account and does my child need 567 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,720 one? 568 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,880 Oh, we shifted gears. 569 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,880 We did. 570 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Sorry. 571 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,880 This is a big shift. 572 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,760 So I think my simplest answer and then I'll let you expand on it because I know you are 573 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,560 a family who actually has an ABLE account. 574 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,160 And I love the part where you talk about, so no pressure, about how you found the bank. 575 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,160 Yeah. 576 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,160 Okay. 577 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,200 The simplest answer, listeners, is that an ABLE account is a savings account for people 578 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,400 with disabilities and their family. 579 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:28,160 And it's a result of the passing of the ABLE Act of 2014, so 2014, that provides the opportunity 580 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:35,360 for individuals with disabilities to save money beyond their typical resource limits. 581 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:40,720 So they're for eligible individuals to save money to purchase qualified goods and services 582 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,520 that help them gain independence and choice without losing out on the assistance that 583 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,520 they need. 584 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,920 So maybe an ABLE account for prescriptions. 585 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,920 Yeah. 586 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,040 Prescriptions, equipment, vacations. 587 00:26:54,040 --> 00:27:02,680 I mean, it's a means to save money without your assets really being... 588 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:08,960 So the reason I want to throw this one to you is because a comment I saw, and this is 589 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,760 valid, but I want you to explain the workaround, I guess. 590 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,920 A family said you can't get that in Idaho. 591 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,880 And they're not correct, but I would like you to explain more about it. 592 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,600 So Idaho banking institutions don't offer ABLE accounts. 593 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,180 However, there are federal institutions. 594 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:27,880 We just went to our... 595 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,880 We bank at Chase Bank. 596 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,960 Chase Bank offers ABLE accounts on a federal or national level. 597 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,260 So we just open a Chase account through, or an ABLE account through our Chase Bank. 598 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:41,840 So if you're through CCU, you're not going to be able to access it. 599 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:49,120 Wells Fargo, Chase, Ally, a lot of the bigger, even some of Charles Schwab. 600 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,080 I almost said Les Schwab. 601 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,080 You can't get an ABLE account. 602 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,080 Les Schwab. 603 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Don't try. 604 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,080 Don't do that. 605 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,080 Please. 606 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:02,660 But yeah, so those bigger national banking institutions will all have the ability for 607 00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:05,760 you as a family to open an ABLE account. 608 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,720 So I will ask you this question. 609 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,120 I'm going to put you on the spot. 610 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,120 Sorry. 611 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:11,120 I know. 612 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,120 I bank at ICC. 613 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,480 If I wanted to start an ABLE account, could I go to Chase just to start that? 614 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Or would I also have to open a checking account there? 615 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,320 You are now... 616 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,320 It's like chat GPT. 617 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,920 You are now... 618 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,800 I am a banking expert. 619 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,480 And I don't know. 620 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480 I just from a... 621 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,480 I'm going to find the answer. 622 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,760 I'm assuming you would need to be a Chase customer. 623 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,280 We already were. 624 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,960 So I think their rule is that you have one bank account with $25 and then... 625 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Something like that. 626 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600 So it's essentially just a way to access the ABLE account. 627 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,840 So can I ask if I have SSI or other public benefits, are there any limitations for an 628 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,040 ABLE account? 629 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,360 So that's why ABLE accounts exist. 630 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:04,240 So that your social security, you don't stop gaining it if you're saving it. 631 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,880 So because we know that there's income restrictions. 632 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,800 So in a normal account, I think it's a $2,000 limit, right? 633 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,800 I think. 634 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,800 I don't know exactly what it is. 635 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:23,160 But an ABLE account allows you to go up to $100,000 and it may have even changed in 2024. 636 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Jamie at the Silk, our state independent living council, is the ABLE guru for the state of 637 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,800 Idaho. 638 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,320 So I'm going to have...Alison's going to link Jamie's contact information too. 639 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:40,800 So for Idaho families, they can reach out to Jamie at our state independent living council. 640 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,560 But you can have $100,000. 641 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,160 I believe it may have gone up to $125,000. 642 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,480 For some reason, I kind of have that in my mind that she was saying that, but don't quote 643 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,480 me on that. 644 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,680 But it allows individuals to have that and carry that in there without penalty or without 645 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,920 losing their social security benefits or any of their Medicaid or any of those. 646 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:00,920 Exactly. 647 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,920 Exactly. 648 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:09,040 So can you give us some examples that you've used your son's ABLE account for? 649 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,040 You know what? 650 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,320 Right now, we don't have anything in his ABLE account because he's not receiving social 651 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,440 security. 652 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,000 We opened it...I think there's like $40 in it. 653 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000 We opened... 654 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Enough to keep it active. 655 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Yeah. 656 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:28,440 We opened it because he came into some inheritance from a family member and we needed to shift 657 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,920 that into a special needs trust. 658 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,520 And in the process, we ended up opening that. 659 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,160 It was just kind of part of the financial planning process that we went through. 660 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,160 Part and parcel. 661 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,160 Yeah. 662 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,160 So we opened it. 663 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,560 We have it available for when he turns 18 and he starts accessing those benefits himself. 664 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,560 Okay. 665 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:53,280 Can you give some fake examples of what someone brings it for? 666 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:59,000 In our office, our executive director, her daughter's ABLE account, they had to open 667 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:05,800 the ABLE account during COVID because of the what we call stimulus checks that were coming 668 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,800 out. 669 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,840 And so this then put her daughter over the income threshold. 670 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,680 So they were able to put the stimulus checks in her ABLE account. 671 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,600 And then from the ABLE account, she was able to purchase airfare to go to a conference 672 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,440 that specifically was for her individual disorder. 673 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:33,120 So you can access it that way or you could use it if you needed to pay, if you needed 674 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,600 new furniture for your home as an independent, you know, you're living independently and 675 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:47,160 you needed to furnish your new space or if you want to, I mean, you know, anything, anything 676 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,160 except the ampersand. 677 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,120 I don't really think if you need to, yes, if you, I don't want to say medication co-pay 678 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,320 because that probably you wouldn't have a co-pay if you are accessing some of these, 679 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,840 but you know, but anything that you need to access cold medicine. 680 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,840 Yeah. 681 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,840 Yeah. 682 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Potential. 683 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,840 Antenic, I mean. 684 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,600 So does your child need it because they have a disability? 685 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,600 No. 686 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,920 But is it helpful? 687 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,240 It certainly sounds like it. 688 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,240 Sure. 689 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,400 And especially when we start really thinking about coming into adulthood and it enables 690 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:22,200 individuals the ability to kind of save and not be penalized for having a savings account. 691 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,200 Perfect. 692 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Yeah. 693 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,800 But I would say yes, the state independent living councils can speak in much greater 694 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,760 detail, can even get you those institutions that are reputable across the nation that 695 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,540 are, that are very helpful. 696 00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:39,320 You know, we're going to have that linked below. 697 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,320 Yeah. 698 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,320 So I found something in a little, in the little state independent living council folder that 699 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:51,400 we have qualified living expenses, education, housing, transportation, employment, assistive 700 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,320 technology, IE, ramps, computer software, glasses. 701 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,320 That's kind of surprising. 702 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,720 It is kind of surprising. 703 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Basic living expenses, healthcare expenses not covered by your insurance, IE, the antihistamine 704 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,880 medication and personal assistance services. 705 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,880 Yeah. 706 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:15,440 And I have had, I have known of families that or of individuals that have paid for a personal 707 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,560 care assistant to attend a vacation with them. 708 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,560 So that is a, that is covered by us too. 709 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,560 Yeah. 710 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,560 I'm learning something new every day. 711 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:32,680 Pretty cool. 712 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,680 Thank you so much everyone out there for listening in and know that if you are in Idaho or planning 713 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:44,880 on moving to Idaho and have questions on systems or services for children with disabilities, 714 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,040 please consider reaching out to us on our website at I pull Idaho. 715 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:58,560 That's I P U L Idaho.org or by calling us at 208-342-5884. 716 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Be sure to tune in next time. 717 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Until then, this has been Unlimited Parenting. 718 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:30,800 Thanks for listening.