1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,520 Welcome to Unlimited Parenting, where we discuss parenting children with disabilities or special 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,520 health care needs. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:19,440 My name is Allison, and today I am joined by everyone's favorite, Melissa. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,440 Hey! 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,960 Is that the sound of the real thing? 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,960 That's feedback I've received. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,960 You're so lame. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,960 I wish. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,960 Please someone. 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Please, please someone send in that feedback. 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,760 I'm just kidding. 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:37,800 And today we are here to record another installment of IPUL Found It on Facebook. 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,640 This is the second episode of that series, so if you missed the first, they are not in 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,800 any way chronological or connected, but you're welcome to go back and listen to it because 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,360 they are covering different questions. 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:57,720 So if you missed the first episode, just a little backstory is I was on Facebook. 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Weird. 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,400 You keep opening some TikTok. 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,000 I'm very old. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,680 And I was noticing that there are lots of questions that get asked in a lot of groups, 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:15,080 you know, whether they're diagnosis specific groups or just Treasure Valley groups, statewide 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,080 groups. 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,300 There's a lot of questions that get asked and sometimes there's not a lot of answers. 24 00:01:19,300 --> 00:01:20,800 Sometimes there are a lot of answers. 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:28,640 And I thought, what if we took some of those questions, we researched them to, you know, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:34,600 the end of the world, and then we came back and presented a fully reviewed answer to some 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,600 of those questions. 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Love it. 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,320 So that's what we've done. 30 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:44,960 Today we have four questions and if it's a... 31 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:50,160 I'm laughing because she said four questions, but the amount of paperwork that is before 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,160 us. 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Sorry, it looks like more than four. 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,480 Listen, I researched it a lot. 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,440 And she says she is researching this to the depths of the internet and back. 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,720 She's serious. 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,880 And if you're curious about where I found this information, I would be happy to link 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,380 it and or provide it to you. 39 00:02:09,380 --> 00:02:10,760 So I saved the receipts. 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Good deal. 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,760 I'm sure you'll all be too. 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,840 Just in case you wanted to know more. 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Okay. 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,840 So question number one. 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,840 Okay. 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,520 And for this question in specific, it will be a lot of me kind of explaining, but then 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,240 I would like to hear your family perspective on this first question. 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Okay. 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:35,740 It is, what is ESY and how is a student eligible for it? 50 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:41,040 So let's first begin by explaining that ESY is extended school year. 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,040 Yep. 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Right? 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Okay. 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,040 So here we go. 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:51,520 ESY is the principle that each student with a disability is, in fact, entitled to an 56 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,680 individually designed education established in a series of court cases that led to the 57 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:04,800 adaptation in 1975 of the federal law that we now know as IDEA, right? 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,760 The Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Basically, what I'm saying here is, is that there's been a lot to get to where we are 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,320 right now. 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,640 So if you remember nothing from the words that come out of my mouth next, please remember 62 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,200 that this didn't happen overnight. 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,720 A subsequent series of court cases and policy clarifications established providing special 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:32,800 education services beyond the usual school year is a part of FATE, which is the Free 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 and Appropriate Public Education. 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,120 Everybody deserves one. 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Everybody gets one. 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,720 These decisions have prescribed the basic requirements for the ESY program eligibility 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:52,600 and defined some of the related extended school year elements, such as the length and type 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,800 of the program, funding, and transportation. 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,840 In addition to all of that, the Office of Civil Rights of the Department of Education 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:10,120 ruled that even students regarded as disabled under Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act 73 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:18,280 and not eligible for services under IDEA have to be considered for ESY services. 74 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:23,480 So I'll allow a pause for that to blow your mind for a second. 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Okay, mind blown? 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,400 The wow. 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,160 It came out of, like my head is that emoji right now. 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,600 A letter of finding issued by OCR to the Baltimore City Public Schools. 79 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Again, I recognize that this is not Idaho, but it still sets a precedent, right? 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:48,800 States that Section 504 regulations require that the individual needs of every child be 81 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,040 examined, considered, and met. 82 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,920 While 180 days of school may be adequate for some, again, this is not my word, and this 83 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,680 is from a letter from a while ago. 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:07,600 So this is not current zeitgeist, but for some handicapped students, it may not be an 85 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,360 adequate amount of time for others. 86 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:16,760 So eligibility for extended school year services at no cost to the parent is determined by 87 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,320 the child's team. 88 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,040 Okay, so buckle up for another one. 89 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:27,040 Because there's a whole lot of work that went into extended school year. 90 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,520 So if nothing, maybe this just gives you a greater appreciation for extended school year. 91 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:42,440 So Royce Royce versus Fountain in December 29, 1994, the court noted that emerging skills 92 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,560 and quote unquote breakthrough opportunities. 93 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,800 So that's like when a child is on the brink of learning how to read, right? 94 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:58,440 And should be incorporated into the eligibility analysis for extended school year. 95 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:04,000 The child is in a critical stage of developing a skill which has great potential for increasing 96 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,160 his or her self-sufficiency. 97 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,920 If such a skill is not completely acquired and mastered, it is likely that that skill 98 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,220 will be lost due to the interruption of summer vacation. 99 00:06:18,220 --> 00:06:25,560 That decision of the US Supreme Court in Maryland, again Maryland, wow, prescribed very specific 100 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,500 requirements relative to the ESY procedures. 101 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:34,900 The court found that the explanation about extended school year contained a brochure 102 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:40,400 that got distributed to all students and that that was NASS efficient and ordered additional 103 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,640 explanation be provided to all parents. 104 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,760 The court in that decision also ordered that the student's eligibility for extended school 105 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:54,240 year be considered at each annual review meeting because at this point it had not been, right? 106 00:06:54,240 --> 00:07:00,840 And the parents sign a form acknowledging that they received this information. 107 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:10,840 So quick recap, IDEA has been around decades, but extended school year was kind of more 108 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,440 of a conversation starting 1994, right? 109 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,440 The district must document the decision and the discussion reached for consideration of 110 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,440 ESY. 111 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,800 So that's something that you might have noticed when you are looking at your IEP, was extended 112 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,240 school year discussed, was it determined necessary? 113 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,960 And now that looks like a checkbox. 114 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,160 And part of that is in thanks to this decision in 1994. 115 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Christine. 116 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,120 Here's another one. 117 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Okay. 118 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:46,520 A number of federal courts, I'm talking my boys Johnson v Bixby, the federal circuit 119 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,760 court in 1990. 120 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,520 And get this one, battle versus Pennsylvania. 121 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,600 That sounds like a UHC fight. 122 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,600 It does. 123 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,600 UFC? 124 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,600 Sure. 125 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Anyway, tell us in the comments, which is the third federal. 126 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,040 WEE, I don't know. 127 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Can you smell what Bixby? 128 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,240 What cocaine? 129 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,280 Okay, that last one is 1980. 130 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,280 Sorry. 131 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Mentioned that one of the standards that needs to be considered in determining the need for 132 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,480 extended school year is, and this might shock you, the ability of the parents to provide 133 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,040 structure at home. 134 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,520 The regression and recruitment issue will not be as severe. 135 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:35,600 Thus, extended school year services through the school staff may not be necessary. 136 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:42,560 So again, this is really emphasizing that the IEP is, in fact, don't be surprised, a 137 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:43,560 team. 138 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:44,560 Sure. 139 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,760 So can the team provide those services, including the parents? 140 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,340 So perhaps the parent feels, you know what, we're going to decline ESY. 141 00:08:55,340 --> 00:09:00,480 You may have been found eligible for it, but I feel like I can provide those supports in 142 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,480 home. 143 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Right. 144 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Okay. 145 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,080 Now, that's some federal level business. 146 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Federal level litopity. 147 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,520 What about the state of Idaho? 148 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,400 What's the state of Idaho have to say about extended school year? 149 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Well, let me tell you. 150 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:30,680 It's basically what you've already heard, that it's mandatory and it's mandatory that 151 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:31,680 it be assessed. 152 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:32,680 Right. 153 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:39,080 Provide special education and related services to an eligible student with a disability beyond 154 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,240 the conventional number of instructional days, that 180 that we talked about earlier, and 155 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,200 this is key, at no cost to the parents. 156 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,360 It must be based on the IEP team decision that meets Idaho standards. 157 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,880 The district shall provide extended school year services for students with disabilities 158 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,880 who qualify. 159 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,620 Right. 160 00:10:00,620 --> 00:10:06,800 The student's educational program is based on individual needs and not determined by 161 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:12,120 what the program already has available in the district. 162 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,680 That is straight from the special education manual. 163 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:16,120 I'll repeat it again. 164 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,760 The student's educational program is based on individual needs and is not determined 165 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,520 by what programs are readily available within the district. 166 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,160 Again, another very important statement coming up. 167 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:38,400 A student cannot be required to fail or to go for an entire school year without extended 168 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:45,120 school year services simply to prove a need. 169 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,640 The IEP team shall consider the following. 170 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:54,000 The term means special education and or related services that are provided beyond the regular 171 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 school year. 172 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,080 Now I feel like I'm at the end of that commercial when they're just trying to say, oh, Zempit 173 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,360 can, and they result in... 174 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,680 You'll say micro machines, but you're probably too young and you don't even remember that. 175 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:09,320 I don't know what a micro machine is. 176 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,960 Well, the micro machines, it was these little teeny... 177 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Anyways, I talked really fast. 178 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Let me just put it at those. 179 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Yeah, you checked really fast. 180 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,520 The goal of ESY at the end of the day is to assist students with disabilities with the 181 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:30,320 emergence and maintenance of IEP goals addressed during the school year, right? 182 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,320 Right. 183 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:41,200 These goals can include independence, behavior, socialization, communication, academics, but 184 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,780 it provides a different focus from general education summer school programs. 185 00:11:45,780 --> 00:11:52,160 So we're talking about emerging skills, regression recruitment, and self-sufficiency. 186 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Okay? 187 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Okay. 188 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,280 Okay, one more thing I wanted to include. 189 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:04,060 I don't want to bore you guys to absolute death, but I do have IDEA CFRs if you really 190 00:12:04,060 --> 00:12:11,040 wanted to go crazy and look up more about what IDEA in specific has to say about extended 191 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:19,120 school year, and they are 300.106 and 300.20 through 300.324. 192 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,600 If you want to go crazy, go crazy. 193 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,880 Play that for your weekend extravaganza. 194 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Exactly. 195 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:29,600 So, full disclosure, I am not a parent of a child who qualifies for extended school 196 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,360 year, but you are. 197 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,360 I am. 198 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:39,040 And I would like to hear more about if you chose to pursue extended school year or not. 199 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Okay. 200 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:45,120 So I will back kind of way back up. 201 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,800 My son is going into the... What? 202 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,840 We're having a moment. 203 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,840 I just had a moment. 204 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,160 He's going into the ninth grade. 205 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,200 That means he is a freshman in high school. 206 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,160 That is disgusting. 207 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,280 Okay. 208 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,960 He is eligible for ESY. 209 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,840 He is eligible for extended school year. 210 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:06,520 However, it's not something that we choose at this time to pursue and participate in. 211 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:13,600 But backing way up, we did a couple of times participate in ESY. 212 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,060 The first time we participated is when he had the emerging skill of walking. 213 00:13:18,060 --> 00:13:21,400 It was... Talk about something that's important. 214 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,400 Right? 215 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,960 And so I'm like, absolutely, we're going to do this. 216 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,240 We are going to do this. 217 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,340 He had his cute little walker. 218 00:13:29,340 --> 00:13:37,400 His physical therapist had some really, really great goals that we used to foster some independence. 219 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,480 So he got himself this nifty little walker. 220 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,640 He qualified in March for extended school year. 221 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,120 The walker came in May, and a week later he started walking. 222 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,120 So that was wonderful. 223 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:59,800 So we used the entirety of the six week ESY session to focus on how he was going to maneuver 224 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:08,120 and continuing to learn the school environment, the playground environment, because it was 225 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,820 now a really new skill. 226 00:14:09,820 --> 00:14:14,720 It was no longer a skill that we were working on getting out, but now it was an emerging 227 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,720 skill. 228 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,640 So we spent that entire six weeks working one to... Well, I don't want to say one to 229 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:26,000 one with a physical therapist, but with some really, really individualized physical therapy 230 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,560 goals. 231 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,440 I will say that it was a little bit of a struggle because when he participated this particular 232 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,680 year it was at a school different than the school that he normally went to during normal 233 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,880 school, just whatever. 234 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,200 And it was with a team that was different from his school team. 235 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,200 So it was different paraprofessionals and a different lead special education teacher. 236 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:54,040 The reason that this worked though, the physical therapist was the same physical therapist 237 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,600 that came from his traditional school. 238 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Oh, so someone he knew. 239 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,160 So someone he knew. 240 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,240 So it worked, and it worked, and he walked, and we never looked back. 241 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,600 So that skill was not something that regressed. 242 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,720 We emerged and here we are so many years later. 243 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,960 The next year we had a very similar conversation with his team because we had just started 244 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,080 Reese's nonverbal, but uses a communication device. 245 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:29,480 And we had just secured the communication device, a new system, and we're really trying 246 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,080 to get that up and running with the team and everybody and get him on board. 247 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,720 And it was an emerging skill that we didn't want to say only us as a family worked on 248 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,880 for the summer. 249 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,560 We wanted everybody on the team to work with it. 250 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,920 And again, we were at a different school with a different team, a different SPED teacher, 251 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,840 and this time with a different speech pathologist. 252 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,840 And it didn't work. 253 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,040 This time it didn't work. 254 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Reese pushed back. 255 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,360 Reese, it took us almost the entirety of the six weeks to get him really acclimated to 256 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,680 the new staff, to the new. 257 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,280 And so we didn't see what we thought we would see from it like we did the year before with 258 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,320 the walking. 259 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,480 And so from that point on, he still qualifies every year. 260 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:22,160 We had the conversation in February of this year about he has some emerging skills, communication 261 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,480 still being one of those, and that would still qualify him. 262 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:35,320 But it's not something that we at this time really pursue as a family because, and truly, 263 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,880 it's because the team is different and there's not consistency, and I know for my child that 264 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,720 consistency is key. 265 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,240 And I want to give him a summer. 266 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,720 I want to give him some time. 267 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,800 So we kind of struggle with that a little bit. 268 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Is this intervention that he desperately needs, or is this something, like you said in the 269 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:02,920 open, that can be somewhat replicated in the home and that we don't have to worry about? 270 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,040 I don't have to worry that he's not going to use the communication device when we go 271 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,040 back to school. 272 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,120 I know that we are still utilizing it, that we're still, that these are still skills that 273 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,120 we're working on. 274 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:13,760 So yeah, that's where we are. 275 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,760 Did I? 276 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,440 Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. 277 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:25,280 I'm curious, and it's not to say that just because you're eligible for ESY one year, 278 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,200 it doesn't mean you're going to be eligible the following year, right? 279 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,800 That's a really good point because there's been a couple years where we weren't. 280 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Maybe his later years, for one reason or another, he didn't have eligibility. 281 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,920 I potentially could have pushed that if it was something that I felt strongly about, 282 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,760 but I didn't. 283 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:46,760 I don't know. 284 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:54,080 I don't necessarily feel like we ever were in fear of losing anything where he wasn't 285 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,920 found eligible for. 286 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:01,800 Before we close out on this, I want to give a few pointers on what Extended School Year 287 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,800 is not. 288 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,280 Please do. 289 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:13,520 Extended School Year is not mandated 12-month services for all students with disabilities. 290 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:20,840 Just because you qualify for an IEP does not mean you automatically qualify for ESY. 291 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,560 Extended School Year is not required for the convenience of the school or parents, and 292 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,120 therefore, it cannot serve as a respite care service. 293 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:36,000 It is not required or intended to maximize educational opportunities for any student 294 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,640 with disabilities. 295 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,480 Remember the recoupment emerging skills conversation. 296 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:49,400 I would even venture to say that it's not super convenient for parents. 297 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,000 It's a six-week, and transportation is provided if that's something your child is eligible 298 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,120 for, but it's just in the morning. 299 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:00,840 You've got to figure out how to maneuver around it. 300 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:09,160 Absolutely, it's never intended for the convenience of a family or for babysitting services. 301 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,600 It is not necessary to continue instruction on previous year's IEP goals. 302 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,680 Rather, the focus would be on those specific critical skills where regression due to an 303 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,720 extended vacation may occur. 304 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:29,160 It's not to help students with disabilities advance in relation to their peers, like an 305 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,080 IEP maybe throughout the school year. 306 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:38,800 It's not for those students with disabilities who exhibit regression, which is only related 307 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:47,600 to medical problems resulting in degeneration or transitional life situations such as divorce 308 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,000 or death of a family member. 309 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,880 It is not required solely when a child fails to achieve IEP goals during the year. 310 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:02,440 It is not to provide a child with education beyond what is prescribed in his or her IEP. 311 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:09,720 So, I hope I have left everyone with a very concrete explanation of what extended school 312 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,440 year is and isn't. 313 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Yes. 314 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Do you feel educated? 315 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,080 I do. 316 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Okay, perfect. 317 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Hearing no further questions, I would like to move on to question number two. 318 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:29,680 This one, I'm not sure, please, if you have any feedback, feel free, but I'm not sure 319 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,080 this is something that really interests me. 320 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,840 No, I feel like that's wrong. 321 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,680 I don't feel like it's something that you've pursued. 322 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,880 But if you've ever had a parent ask about it, please. 323 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,880 Oh, I know, I'll show you. 324 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:48,960 The second question I found on Facebook is, what is neurofeedback therapy and will Family 325 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Direct pay for it? 326 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,720 Did I put that in there? 327 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,720 No, I'm just kidding. 328 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,720 No, because I don't know. 329 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,720 You're right. 330 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,720 I don't know much about it. 331 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,200 So, I'm going to learn right along with all of you. 332 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,200 All of you listeners. 333 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,200 I hope you're ready. 334 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,200 I am. 335 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,360 Before I even start, I want to say the following. 336 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:11,200 EIPL is endorsing neurofeedback therapy and none of the staff at EIPL have received neurofeedback 337 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,280 for themselves or their children. 338 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,360 That is correct. 339 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:20,400 I am going to state some facts that I have researched and if I state an opinion, I will 340 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,040 attribute it to the person who provided it. 341 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,040 Okay. 342 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,160 Thank you. 343 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,480 Except right now, here's my opinion. 344 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,520 I will here attribute it to you. 345 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,880 I think it sounds kind of cool. 346 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,880 That's my opinion. 347 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,880 Okay. 348 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,880 Okay, now here we go. 349 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:43,680 Neurofeedback is also referred to as EEG biofeedback, but since that's a mouthful, they say neurofeedback. 350 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,680 They mean- 351 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,680 Which is not a mouthful. 352 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,280 Listen, you got to make some choices. 353 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Yeah. 354 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,760 I'm surprised it's not an acronym. 355 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,240 I'm really just, in this world, everything- 356 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,240 NFB? 357 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,600 Is that what the acronym would be? 358 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,600 NFB? 359 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,480 I'm glad it's not an acronym. 360 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,480 Okay, neurofeedback. 361 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,880 Noninvasive and is referred to as a learning modality that is designed to find and then 362 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,640 retrain dysregulated brainwave patterns. 363 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:17,160 In the simplest of terms, you can think of it as a guided exercise for your brain that 364 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,440 is based on a psychological concept called operant conditioning. 365 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,960 Now I am going to pause and explain operant conditioning because I think it becomes important 366 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,480 later. 367 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Operant conditioning was first coined by my guy B.F. 368 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:37,360 Skinner, who wanted to look at the external causes of human behavior. 369 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:47,800 That word operant is used to refer to any active behavior that operates, get it, operates 370 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:53,480 on the environment to generate a consequence, so external behavior, not any kind of like 371 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,680 intrinsic causes of behavior. 372 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:03,760 The word operant is used to refer to any active behavior that operates on the environment 373 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,960 to generate a consequence. 374 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:13,080 But please remember that in this instance, consequence is an ambivalent term, right? 375 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:18,240 It could be positive, it could be negative, simply what happens as a result of this behavior. 376 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Are you still with me? 377 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,640 Yeah, I'm still with you. 378 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,640 Okay. 379 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,640 Okay. 380 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Operant, which are followed by reinforcement, will then of course be strengthened and more 381 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,080 likely to continue again in the future, right? 382 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,080 If I tell a funny story and then everybody laughs at me, I'm more likely to tell that 383 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,160 story again or try to be funny again, right? 384 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,360 Hence the child who repeatedly tells the same joke. 385 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:47,320 In the future, the term operant is to refer to any active behavior that operates upon 386 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,920 the environment to generate a consequence. 387 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,920 Okay. 388 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Okay. 389 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,920 So, clear as mud, perfect. 390 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,080 I told you, you guys, you had a lot of papers. 391 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Listen, I have so many papers, it's ridiculous. 392 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,800 This is what is happening with neurofeedback. 393 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:10,480 The system is rewarding your brain when your brain provides that preselected brainwave. 394 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,660 So at this point, you may be asking yourself, self, how exactly is this working? 395 00:24:16,660 --> 00:24:23,240 So first, there are sensors that are connected to your brain, again, non-invasive, not painful. 396 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,240 Just outside. 397 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,240 External. 398 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,320 External. 399 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,800 That monitors the brain's activity. 400 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,800 While this is happening- 401 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,800 P-E-G, guys. 402 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,880 Exactly, because that's why it's called P-E-G, biofeedback. 403 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,960 So the sensors are connected to your brain, monitoring your brain's activity. 404 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,720 I wish this was being videoed. 405 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,720 While this is happening- 406 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Lovely, you guys. 407 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:50,480 While all of this is happening, the computer is interpreting the signals that it's receiving. 408 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,300 So if the brain is doing what we want it to do, then a reward is given. 409 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:56,600 So let's take my child, for example. 410 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,080 They love the show Gravity Falls. 411 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,080 So do I. 412 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,280 So while they're hooked up, they're watching Gravity Falls. 413 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,880 Again, my children, I'm not doing it. 414 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,440 I'm just using this as an example. 415 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,000 But they're hooked up to electro- 416 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,040 They're watching Gravity Falls. 417 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Exactly. 418 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,720 When their brain is producing the brainwave that we've selected that we want more of, 419 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,280 the screen that they're watching may light up, providing that positive reinforcement. 420 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,760 So they were always watching Gravity Falls, but it was darker. 421 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,760 It was dipped. 422 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,760 Oh. 423 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,800 Until the brainwave that we've selected- 424 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,780 So why do we select that brainwave? 425 00:25:29,780 --> 00:25:33,560 Because that's the wave that we want to see more of, that we want to encourage, that helps 426 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,200 us with other things. 427 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,160 Okay. 428 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,160 Is that mapped out? 429 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,160 Sorry. 430 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,160 Yes. 431 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,160 And then it's in advance. 432 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,880 So there's an initial session where they're like, wow, we're really low over here. 433 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,880 Okay. 434 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,080 And we're really high up here. 435 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,440 And we're looking to balance it out by doing this. 436 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Interesting. 437 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,440 Okay. 438 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,440 So- 439 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,440 I just had to- 440 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,440 No. 441 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,440 Make it make sense. 442 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,440 Okay. 443 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,440 Please. 444 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,160 When their brain is producing the brainwave that we want more of, the screen lights up. 445 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:06,760 And that's the positive reinforcement to create more of that brainwave. 446 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,880 Could be in an alternate situation, the sound on Gravity Falls is off. 447 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,200 And so when the brainwave that we want, the sound would turn on. 448 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,200 Right? 449 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,200 So it could be audio. 450 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,200 Okay. 451 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,200 It could be visual. 452 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:25,320 And hold onto your britches because it could also be a vibrating chair. 453 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,760 Now, from what I have learned, there are very few of these vibrating beds that are left. 454 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:37,080 But what makes this super cool is with the chair concept is that reinforcement can be 455 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,400 delivered even if the individual is asleep. 456 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,400 Oh. 457 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,760 Because if you produce that wave, they can still provide the feedback by vibrating the 458 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,840 chair even if they're asleep. 459 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,720 This is just what I know. 460 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,520 So the brain is now recognizing the reward and the consequence and responding with the 461 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,120 changes. 462 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,400 I also want to make something very clear. 463 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,380 Neurofeedback, not new. 464 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:06,720 This is not something that's just happened, right? 465 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,400 It's been studied for the past 40 years. 466 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:17,600 Dr. Duffy, a professor and pediatric neurologist at Harvard Medical School, is quoted as saying 467 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,240 the following. 468 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,660 Neurofeedback should play a major therapeutic role in many difficult areas. 469 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:31,040 In my opinion, if any medication had demonstrated such a wide spectrum of efficacy, it would 470 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,120 be universally accepted and widely used. 471 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,680 That's some high praise. 472 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,680 Absolutely. 473 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,680 That is some praise. 474 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,680 Probably exactly right. 475 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,880 If this was a pill you could pop, everybody would want it. 476 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,880 Right. 477 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,880 It's the ozempic of... 478 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,880 Yeah. 479 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,880 Okay. 480 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,880 So what is neurofeedback? 481 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Give me some diagnoses that neurofeedback could be used for. 482 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Pretend like you just asked me that question. 483 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,840 Oh, okay. 484 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,840 I wasn't trying to... 485 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,840 What did I want them to... 486 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,840 I know. 487 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,840 I was like, I don't know. 488 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,840 You're supposed to be telling me you found this. 489 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,360 What are some diagnoses that could possibly use neurofeedback, Allison? 490 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:07,720 That's such a good question. 491 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Thanks. 492 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:16,560 They could be diagnoses such as ADHD, panic attacks, autism, maybe you've had a stroke, 493 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:24,280 headaches, anxiety, insomnia, post-traumatic stress disorder, learning disorders, TBI, 494 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,280 et cetera. 495 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:32,880 Now, from what I have gathered, the extensive research has been for individuals who have 496 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,880 ADHD. 497 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,880 Okay. 498 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,840 I did not research to see if that 40 years applies to any of the other diagnoses. 499 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,840 Okay. 500 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Just... 501 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,840 End of clarification. 502 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,840 Never mind. 503 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360 You're going to say this probably, so I'll... 504 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Well, hold on to your... 505 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Hold on to your britches. 506 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Okay. 507 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Now, for the million dollar question. 508 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,480 Is neurofeedback dangerous and or does it hurt? 509 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:01,280 I'm here to tell you that it's completely painless and again, non-invasive. 510 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,160 It is marked as safe by the FDA. 511 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:11,880 In fact, the FDA recognizes that neurofeedback has never produced a serious side effect since 512 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960 it was first discovered 40 years ago. 513 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,280 But having said that, I also would like to say that I, in my research, have seen reports 514 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,720 from parents that say that their child appeared tired after sessions. 515 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,680 And they attribute that to mean that it was a good exercise. 516 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,800 And that's what their providers have said that, you know, wow, we really exercise the 517 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,440 brain so yes, they're tired. 518 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,080 But I want to mention that that is what happened. 519 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,720 So typically, the next question, at least in my mind, the next question would be, okay, 520 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,720 how long? 521 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,720 How long are those sessions? 522 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,200 How many do there need to be? 523 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,200 Is this a forever? 524 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,520 Yeah, is it a you can cure or you can? 525 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Exactly. 526 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,520 Yeah, exactly. 527 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,520 So this is what I found. 528 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,080 A typical session lasts between 30 and 50 minutes. 529 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840 And a typical treatment plan is roughly 20 sessions. 530 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,580 Of course, some people need more. 531 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:05,360 Some people need less. 532 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,600 Okay. 533 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Because the brain is neuroplastic, right, the changes appear to be permanent. 534 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:18,920 The ultimate hope is that once the brain learns how and when to produce the certain brain 535 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:26,080 wave, the ability to do so is natural and now inherently a part of like a permanent 536 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,800 circuit in the brain. 537 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,800 Okay. 538 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,200 Because, as I just mentioned, the brain is plastic, it can always learn and grow and 539 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,200 change. 540 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Wow. 541 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,200 Okay. 542 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:42,000 I have a few other studies on neurofeedback that I would be happy to share in the sake 543 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000 of time. 544 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,460 I'm not going to go through all of them, but if you want to know more, please feel free 545 00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:46,460 to reach out. 546 00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:50,680 So now that we've know about neurofeedback, let's get back to the second half of that 547 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,520 question, which was, does FDS cover neurofeedback? 548 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,240 It was so long ago. 549 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,400 So first, FDS stands for Family Directed Services. 550 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,360 And as we know, it is one of two pathways that can be taken in the Children's Developmental 551 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,020 Disability Program. 552 00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:14,200 The other pathway being the traditional pathway. 553 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:21,480 From my research, I have found that FDS will in fact cover neurofeedback, but if and only 554 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:28,760 if your child is duly diagnosed with ADHD and is autistic. 555 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,760 I do know that you can contact your case manager and they could potentially send you a list 556 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,680 of individuals who have the required certification to provide neurofeedback. 557 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Okay, so it is a... 558 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,760 It's intensive hours and of course, not just anybody can get the equipment and then provide 559 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,880 neurofeedback, right? 560 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,000 I also know that commonly once you've chosen your provider, they will give you an invoice 561 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,200 20 to 52 sessions, right? 562 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,600 That you can use for your support and spending plan, SSP, right? 563 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,120 In some cases, I have heard that the goods and service form was filled out by the OT, 564 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,840 occupational therapist, or by the pediatrician, whomever is making this referral. 565 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:19,480 Again, iPoll does not endorse or sponsor or want to advertise for any specific provider 566 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,960 in our state. 567 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,300 However, a quick Google search does show that there are several providers in the Treasure 568 00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:32,760 Valley, in the Magic Valley, in the Idaho Falls area, and in Coeur d'Alene. 569 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Okay. 570 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,400 If you want more information, I would be happy to share it with you on a one-off basis. 571 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,360 Please feel free to reach out. 572 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,840 All right. 573 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,920 How are we feeling? 574 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,960 That's two questions down, we're halfway done. 575 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Okay. 576 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360 The other ones are going to be shorter, I promise. 577 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Okay. 578 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,880 So, question number three. 579 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:59,920 For those of you that are using FDS, what we just mentioned, family-directed services, 580 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:04,200 what are some of the things that you use your budget for? 581 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,160 So for those of you who don't know, when you've been found eligible, you will receive a budget. 582 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,480 It could be $14,900. 583 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,480 It could be... 584 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,860 $8,200 is another one. 585 00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:16,220 And what's the other most common one? 586 00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:18,680 It's like $4,200, I think. 587 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,680 Yeah. 588 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,440 There's $86,400, I think. 589 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,480 $4,200, $86,400, and $14,900, I believe, are the budget levels. 590 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,480 Yeah. 591 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,560 They stick around those areas. 592 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:38,240 So for starters, items and services that you would like to use require written recommendation 593 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,280 from qualified professionals to be paid for. 594 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,280 Correct. 595 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,560 So let's give some examples. 596 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,560 A pediatrician. 597 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,560 Oh, of a licensed... 598 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,560 Like a qualified... 599 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,560 Yes. 600 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Okay. 601 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,760 Yeah, so a pediatrician, an occupational therapist, a physical therapist. 602 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,200 A speech-language pathologist or potentially a psychologist. 603 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Those are some examples, right? 604 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,160 All of our therapy, yeah. 605 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:08,800 The form must state that the items that you wish to purchase meet the following requirements. 606 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,960 Excuse me, requirements. 607 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,360 They must be safe and effective. 608 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,720 They must meet standards of care. 609 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:21,160 They must benefit the health, safety, and wellbeing of the child. 610 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:28,440 They need to be the least costly option that reasonably meets the needs of that child, 611 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,280 needed for the sole benefit of the child. 612 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,040 And goods and services must also help the child to be in their community, increase community 613 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,920 involvement for the child, increase independence of the child. 614 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,560 All services requested must meet the child's needs. 615 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,340 Again, they say it again. 616 00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:51,800 They must be related to the child's disability listed on the support and spending plan. 617 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,080 The support and spending plan cannot pay for a provider when items that would serve as 618 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,800 a substitute for that provider have been approved. 619 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,680 All durable medical equipment or DME, over $100, must first go through Medicaid DME. 620 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:15,400 Okay, so now that we've said all of that, let's talk about some things that we can use. 621 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,280 Our sons for. 622 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:25,960 So I would love to hear from you, a fellow parent in the room, Ms. Melissa, if you feel 623 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:32,600 comfortable, would you mind sharing some things that you have used your son's budget for? 624 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,200 Yeah. 625 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:40,120 Right now we use a lot of his budget for community support worker to take him in the community, 626 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,520 to work on goals, to work on getting him in the community, because that's something we're 627 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,520 struggling with. 628 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:53,880 However, in the past, we have used his budget to purchase goods and equipment that allow 629 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,960 him to remain in his community or stay in his community with all of us. 630 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,840 Probably my most favorite is his special needs bike trailer. 631 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,840 So I mentioned earlier, he's going to be a freshman, which is crazy. 632 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,400 And Reese is nonverbal, Reese has some mobility problems, but Reese loves to be outside and 633 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,360 we love to ride bikes and we love to do that kind of stuff as a family. 634 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,600 So when we realized like a trike wasn't going to be an option or a self propelled vehicle 635 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,480 for Reese was not going to be... You don't want to put him on a go-kart? 636 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,280 Reese would love that. 637 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:35,440 Well, Reese would be in the wall, but he would have fun doing it. 638 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,440 He needed to be in a big old bike trailer, so that was something that we got. 639 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,760 It allows him to maintain his independence as much as possible within our community, 640 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,500 his independence in the family. 641 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,680 He can hang out in it. 642 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,760 So that's one of my most favorite purchases that we've ever made. 643 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:59,680 And it was a big purchase and it was a purchase that we kind of really had to budget for. 644 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040 We did, we budgeted his budget for it. 645 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,720 So exactly, that's exactly what we did. 646 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:13,440 We have purchased spio suits, which are compression garment, garments, I guess, compression type 647 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:21,240 clothing for him that really benefited him in a couple different areas in which he needed 648 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,360 that sensory support. 649 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,320 So we've got those. 650 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:33,360 We purchased one of the big P-pods for him, the big inflatable for him to... Essentially 651 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,280 it was more of his compression. 652 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920 You can see the... He's a seeker. 653 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,280 See what he likes. 654 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:46,260 Compression sheets we have purchased, swings, that kind of stuff. 655 00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:50,120 Another piece of equipment that we got that we did run through DME first, and then we 656 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:56,480 did go through the budget when he was struggling with some motor and trunk control, a special 657 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:02,640 tomato seeding system that we had that went on a kitchen chair so that he was able to 658 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,120 sit at the kitchen table and eat dinner with us, or at least- 659 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,160 To be in his community. 660 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,160 To be in his community. 661 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,160 Yeah, he wasn't eating dinner. 662 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,520 He was being tube fed, but he was participating in the eating, the socialization of the eating. 663 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,940 So that was really important that we were able to have a seeding option for him that 664 00:38:19,940 --> 00:38:25,160 allowed him to be fed, as well as social in that area. 665 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,880 So those are some of my favorite ones. 666 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,800 We've bought different apps that support... A writing wizard app that really supports some 667 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,240 fine motor. 668 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:38,240 What else? 669 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:44,880 Puzzles are always something that we get a great deal of enjoyment out of. 670 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,640 Just for his fine motor needs. 671 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,000 But yeah, I guess that would be some of- 672 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,080 Thank you for sharing, because some of the things that you just listed are not already 673 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,080 listed. 674 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,080 Okay, good. 675 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,920 So I would like to read to you from a list. 676 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:05,040 Some of these are things that I have found on the Department of Health and Welfare's 677 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,040 website. 678 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040 Kim? 679 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,600 And some of these things are things that individuals from Facebook reported as using. 680 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,600 Okay. 681 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200 So by no means is this list exhaustive. 682 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,000 No. 683 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,920 And I just encourage you to reach out to your case manager, reach out to your support worker. 684 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,400 Yes. 685 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,280 Get the goods and service form from your occupational therapist, your physical therapist. 686 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,760 And have them pull it out. 687 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,760 Exactly. 688 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,760 Yes. 689 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,040 So having said all of those caveats, here is the list. 690 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,520 Respite care for sleep. 691 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,640 I hired someone to sleep over on nights when I needed sleep. 692 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,640 Music therapy. 693 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,000 Yeah, that's a colon. 694 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,000 I am choosing not to share the specific company's name, but just please know that there are 695 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000 a few, because I don't want to make it seem like we're endorsing anyone. 696 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,680 A sensory swing, you mentioned. 697 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,400 Someone reported all of our hours go to the CSW, which is fair. 698 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,400 And I think that's, I say that like that because that's something that you had already echoed. 699 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,960 That's where we are kind of right now. 700 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,400 And I think that happens as kids get older. 701 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,400 Yeah. 702 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,400 Yeah. 703 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,680 I actually mentioned neurofeedback, which I found very interesting. 704 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Right. 705 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,680 Okay. 706 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,120 Social stories, up to $150 a year. 707 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,120 Oh, okay. 708 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,920 Kinetic sand, up to $50 a year. 709 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,920 Essential oils. 710 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,920 Sorry. 711 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,920 Right. 712 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,720 Kinetic sand could be dangerous. 713 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:31,720 Yes. 714 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,880 Essential oils, up to $250 a year. 715 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,640 Chewies, 100. 716 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:43,320 Fidgets, $100, and compression items, three shirts and three socks annually. 717 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,320 Okay. 718 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,480 AquaAbility at the YMCA accepts Family Direct. 719 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,720 And again, this is very local to the Treasure Valley. 720 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,280 If that interests you, you can reach out to Andrea Parker. 721 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,200 That's a specific name for you at AquaAbility. 722 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,200 Yeah. 723 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,640 Other things that I found. 724 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,520 A pocket ramp for wheelchair accessibility. 725 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,160 Adaptive trike and wheel replacement for that. 726 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,080 So don't just think about the item in specific. 727 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,000 Also think about the replacement. 728 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,840 And additionally, when you're thinking about sensory swings, please also think about the 729 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,720 equipment that you use to mount it or the... 730 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:24,720 Exactly. 731 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:25,720 The stationary. 732 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:26,720 The hardware. 733 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:27,720 Thank you. 734 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:28,720 Good Lord. 735 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:29,720 Yeah. 736 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:34,480 Sessions at the Therapy Place, which again is very local to the Treasure Valley. 737 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,520 A weighted jacket, a weighted blanket, a bounce chair. 738 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,800 Oh, I forgot we've done all of those. 739 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,800 A goalie tablet. 740 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,800 The goalie tablet. 741 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,800 The goalie. 742 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,800 Uh-huh. 743 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,680 Again, remember this is based off of your child's individual needs. 744 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,360 So just because one child got it doesn't necessarily mean... 745 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,240 So please keep that in mind. 746 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,960 A crash pad, a trampoline, a body sock, a cozy canoe, which I think is that same thing. 747 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:00,960 Yeah, the same thing. 748 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,960 Yep. 749 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,960 Cozy canoe. 750 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,240 And another thing that was local to the Treasure Valley that a lot of people recommended, and 751 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:12,800 I'm not recommending this individual, but I just am sharing because a lot of people 752 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,720 said this name, right? 753 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:15,720 Swimming with Coug. 754 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:16,720 Oh. 755 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:17,720 Cougar is his name. 756 00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:18,720 Okay. 757 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:23,240 And he does adaptive swimming lessons. 758 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:24,960 And I felt like I would... 759 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,040 And that's why I'm including it just at the end, but I felt like I would be remiss if 760 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,320 I didn't include it because it literally was repeated over 43 times. 761 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,320 Wow. 762 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,640 I stopped counting at 43. 763 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,640 You're kidding. 764 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,640 So I guess... 765 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,640 Go Coug. 766 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,640 Go Coug. 767 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,640 Okay. 768 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,200 Um, it seems like something that people really love. 769 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,200 So... 770 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,480 You know, one thing I should say, and this has been a while ago, we did use our budget 771 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:56,960 to do some minor home remodeling to make my son's bathroom more accessible for him. 772 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,440 He was in our bathroom with a glass... 773 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,440 It wasn't good. 774 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,440 It wasn't a good fit. 775 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,440 And we were able to utilize... 776 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:10,320 I mean, it was a process, I will say that, but it is something that is doable and you 777 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,320 can utilize your budget for minor home modification. 778 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:20,920 So I mean, we modified our shower from a three by three stall shower to a more open shower 779 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,260 that he was able to get in and we were able to bathe him. 780 00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:28,320 So that is another option too that I think sometimes gets kind of... 781 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,320 Forgotten. 782 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,320 Forgotten. 783 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,320 Yeah. 784 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,240 And another thing that you just reminded me of that I know that you can speak to more 785 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:37,080 than I can are like motion sensors or water sensors. 786 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,080 Yeah. 787 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,080 So you can... 788 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,080 That is... 789 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:46,120 Now, I don't know about some of the subscription services that those require. 790 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,960 You would really have to talk to your support broker about those. 791 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,480 It's something that we did just we pay for because it is something that we felt very 792 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,240 adamant about. 793 00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:01,360 But we do have water sensors that were paid through from Family Direct, but the subscription 794 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,360 fee we pay. 795 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,360 Oh, man. 796 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,560 And then the other thing that I saw a lot was AngelSensed. 797 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,240 Is that a subscription or do you know? 798 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,960 I don't know. 799 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,520 I can't believe I didn't research that. 800 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,720 I believe it is a subscription because it is the... 801 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:16,720 Right? 802 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,220 Yes, it's the watch. 803 00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:19,220 It's the watch. 804 00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:22,480 I am 99% sure that's a subscription. 805 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,860 So someone had mentioned that that was paid for. 806 00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:26,720 So again, please talk to your support broker. 807 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,440 I know that that is... 808 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,320 I don't know how you do it, I guess I would say. 809 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,800 I don't know how you fill out that paperwork for subscriptions. 810 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,360 Your support brokers know how to do that. 811 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,360 Exactly. 812 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,160 So I know it's something that families have gotten covered. 813 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:44,280 It's just not something that we pursued, but we do have... 814 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,320 You mentioned the alarms on windows too. 815 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,480 We do have those and yeah. 816 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,040 So one more thing that I want to echo before we move on is that this is for community. 817 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,200 So it can't be educational. 818 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,160 So we're not talking tutoring. 819 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,160 Nope. 820 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:06,880 But there is something called the Empowering Parents Grant, which offers a maximum of $1,000 821 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,900 per child that can support educational needs in the community, including tutoring. 822 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,180 So there may be some other options available to you. 823 00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:15,680 And that's for all students. 824 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,680 Yes. 825 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,360 Make sure that all students are participating in that. 826 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,360 Thank you. 827 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,360 Yeah. 828 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,360 The final question. 829 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,360 Okay. 830 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,000 It says, talk to me. 831 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,000 I don't want to repeat exactly word for word what this person's question is, but essentially 832 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,640 what it boils down to is this individual has an autistic child and they really, really 833 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,600 want to be a police officer. 834 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,680 Oh, okay. 835 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:50,360 And we know that locations can't discriminate, but is it going to be prohibitive to be, can 836 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,440 they be a police officer? 837 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,000 Can they be an EMT? 838 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,640 Can they be a firefighter? 839 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,640 Right. 840 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,640 Because you do hear that. 841 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,120 I think there's been that blanket statement made. 842 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,640 I know that I've heard it, like autism disqualifies you from the military. 843 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,480 I think you've done some research on this though, and I think it's not necessarily true. 844 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,400 And I guess we should just say every individual is an individual, right? 845 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,240 And their diagnosis or disability is individual. 846 00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:18,240 Exactly. 847 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:19,240 100%. 848 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,280 So, I think you're going to give us the like... 849 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,120 I'm not going to read you word for word everything that was said, but I want you to know that 850 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:33,260 I reached out to some very kind people at the Idaho State Police and I gave them the 851 00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:39,040 rundown on this question and they were very kind and they said, we do not disqualify anyone 852 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,120 from employment based on any kind of diagnosis, which obviously I would hope that they would 853 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,120 say, right? 854 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,120 They have to say that. 855 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,160 Each of our job classifications have minimum qualifications that every applicant has to 856 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,760 meet for trooper specifically, which is the one that I asked about. 857 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,360 They must meet the entrance requirements. 858 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,360 Okay. 859 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,360 Okay. 860 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,680 Be a citizen of the United States. 861 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,680 Okay. 862 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,200 Be a graduate of a high school or have a GED equivalent. 863 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,040 Be a minimum of 21. 864 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,640 Have a valid driver's license. 865 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,200 You know, they're going to be fingerprinted, right? 866 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,200 Yeah. 867 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:26,040 Must successfully complete a polygraph, you know, pass their drug policy requirements, 868 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:32,840 meet the ISP's medical vision, hearing, psychological and physical fitness requirements. 869 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,160 And then there's an advanced training course. 870 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,080 If an applicant can successfully meet these qualifications, they would be considered for 871 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,080 employment. 872 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:48,680 Each applicant is required to pass an oral board evaluation, extensive physical and complete 873 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:54,360 the educational and continuing 22 week advanced training class. 874 00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:01,000 So as I'm reading this, I'm just going to speak for the both of us and say, Reese is 875 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000 not going to be a police officer. 876 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,000 Reese is not meeting those minimum eligibility requirements. 877 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,440 Jackson and Silas are also not going to be police officers. 878 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,040 I'm okay with that. 879 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,040 Yes. 880 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,040 Yes. 881 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,560 But I also want to say there are some different aspects of this job that could potentially 882 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:25,880 appeal to someone who is autistic in this specific case, like attention to detail for 883 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,960 solving cases or just having a special interest in being a police officer. 884 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,200 So if you can meet these requirements, then there's nothing your diagnosis doesn't hold 885 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,200 you back. 886 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,200 There's no blanket. 887 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,200 No, you can't. 888 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:48,360 It's just like you have an astigmatism as long as you can meet the medical and visual. 889 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,360 Let me give you another example of this. 890 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,840 In the before time, my husband really wanted to be a pilot in the Air Force. 891 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,500 That was his dream. 892 00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:58,680 He didn't meet the vision requirements. 893 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:07,040 So my husband, without a developmental disability, essentially, I hope that makes sense. 894 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,060 Oh, it absolutely makes sense. 895 00:49:10,060 --> 00:49:15,080 When you were reading through that, I was thinking that this is really similar to, I 896 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:22,040 mean, every student has the right to participate on any sports team. 897 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,280 Every student could try out for the football team. 898 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,080 Will they make the eligibility requirements? 899 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,080 Maybe not. 900 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,280 If they try out, is he going to make it? 901 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,440 Probably not. 902 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:37,520 But he still has the opportunity to try out just like everyone else and to meet the eligibility 903 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,360 requirements just like everybody else. 904 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,360 You summed up perfectly something that I'm going to explain in a little bit more detail. 905 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,840 No, I really appreciate you saying that because what's protecting you is Title I of the ADA, 906 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,160 which applies to employers who have 15 or more employees. 907 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:58,940 It prohibits the discrimination in recruitment, hiring, promotions, training, pay. 908 00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:05,520 It also requires that employees provide reasonable accommodations to the known physical or mental 909 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,500 limitations of otherwise qualified, so they have to first be qualified, individuals with 910 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:15,920 disabilities unless it results in undue hardship. 911 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,200 Reasonable accommodations, you might be asking what are those? 912 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,200 What are those? 913 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,200 Thank you. 914 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:27,320 Any modification to a job or the work environment that will enable a qualified applicant with 915 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:35,040 a disability to participate in the application process or to perform essential job functions. 916 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:41,680 Examples of these include reassigning non-essential job responsibilities to someone else, changing 917 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,760 the layout of a workstation, or modifying equipment. 918 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:53,760 Although more than half of all accommodations cost nothing, tax incentives are in fact available 919 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,320 to help employers implement workplace accommodations. 920 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,240 The last thing I want to say is just a caveat. 921 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:06,020 I would not be doing my due diligence if I didn't also add that it is important for youth 922 00:51:06,020 --> 00:51:11,280 and families to understand that while the ADA, Americans with Disabilities Act, protects 923 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,120 employees from being discriminated against on the basis of a disability, it does not 924 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:21,720 require employers to hire an applicant with a disability if there is another applicant 925 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:26,920 who is more qualified or just as qualified, nor does the Americans with Disabilities Act 926 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,920 protect employees with disabilities from being fired or laid off as long as the dismissal 927 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,760 is not based on the disability. 928 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,000 Wow. 929 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,080 So. 930 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,280 We found a lot of things. 931 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,920 Did you learn about extended school year? 932 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:44,920 I did. 933 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,480 Did you learn about neurofeedback? 934 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,480 A lot. 935 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,440 Did you learn about FDS, what you can buy with your budget? 936 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,520 Yep. 937 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:58,640 Did you get confirmation on whether or not an autistic individual could potentially be 938 00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,640 a trooper? 939 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,640 Absolutely. 940 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,280 Then I did my job. 941 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,280 Yeah. 942 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:13,560 Thank you so much everyone out there for listening in. 943 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:20,280 And know that if you are in Idaho or planning on moving to Idaho and have questions on systems 944 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,640 or services for children with disabilities, please consider reaching out to us on our 945 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,680 website at ipulidaho.org. 946 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,600 That's I-P-U-L Idaho.org. 947 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:39,240 Or by calling us at 208-342-5884. 948 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:43,920 Be sure to tune in next time, until then this has been Unlimited Parenting. 949 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,920 Thanks for listening. 950 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,920 Be sure to tune in next time, until then this has been Unlimited Parenting.