Welcome to Burning Lab Podcast. A daily refresh
for your life. Jesus is the center of everything
we do. Burning Lab Church. I am so honored to
be here. Very honored to be here. To be in the
house. of the Lord, and to be a part of, well,
I'm just going to say it, to be a part of Apostle
Daniel's life, he is, that's worth laughing at.
He is truly an example of biblical humility.
It's almost hard for me to believe that this
is 2025 and I've known him for what would be
15 to 16 years. Back then my hair was black,
totally black, and now I'm a little older. and
to see him grow in the Lord and to see all of
you here that have stuck with him and his family.
You too must be saluted. Thank God for all of
you. It would be remiss of me if I didn't do
this. There is a woman in this house, an interesting
woman, an unusual woman. I've been with her for
44 years. We met when we were 10. Oh, I can't
say 10. This is a miracle. But we met when we
were very young. We've traveled the world together.
We've passed it together. We had a Bible school
in London. She was the co -founder of everything.
And so, putting it in a nutshell, when I was
18, I met my rib. I wasn't looking for a rib.
I was only 18. But God put us together, and so
I want to show her off to you. Dr. Marina, stand
up please. The Lord bless you. The Lord bless
you. The Lord bless you. Well, I want to share
with you something that's very very important
How many of you here know? relevancy Relevancy
is a very interesting word Relevance Significance
very important. Every one of you here, no matter
how old or how young you are, you are of great
spiritual significance because of the time that
we are in. When something new starts, it has
to have a foundation. And so I wanna just put
something in the foundation of your church. You
already have a foundation, but I'm gonna add
something into it and build a little bit upon
it. If you have your Bibles with you, please
go with me to Matthew chapter 16. Matthew 16,
and we're going to start from verse 13. And before
I read this to you, the revelation Come forward
with me down. I want you to catch me in the spirit.
Stay by me. Come close to me. I will not bite
you. Stay here. All right. All right. All right.
Now listen to this. This is important. The continuation
of Jesus is a revelation. We are going to forever
learn who He is. I feel old every time I say
this. I got saved in 1969. By the look of this
church, most of you were not even in existence
then. and I was called to ministry in the year
1972. I had a supernatural experience. I have
seen the Lord. As clear as you see me, I have
seen the Lord. I've been to heaven. That's how
my ministry was born. Through supernatural experiences.
But hear me, that was over 50 years ago. The
issue is, do I know him now? What is the revelation
of Jesus now? the significance of the church
to every generation is the revelation of Jesus
in the now. Today there is what I call a lot
of historical knowledge. But there's very little
now knowledge. Because you don't have the now
knowledge of Jesus if you've not had an encounter.
And encounters are continual. You never park
in an encounter God can deposit something in
you, but it can take you years to unpack Because
there's so much of him to be revealed There's
so much of him that the church doesn't know or
I dare say even believe. So the question is,
what is the now revelation of Jesus? And I'm
speaking like this to give you a foundation or
something, I'm gonna say. There are different
levels of knowledge. an intelligence. There's
what I call doctrinal intelligence, which simply
means the knowledge of the scripture. Do you
remember when Jesus would speak to the Pharisees
and they would try to get under his skin? What
did he always say? Go search the scriptures.
Today in the church world, there's very little
searching of scripture. because we've parked
in the past truth so we're not in the present
truth of Jesus. And then there's what I call
prophetic intelligence. That is the knowledge
of the future. That's what we call prophetic
intelligence Are you following me with this?
Now let me make it even clearer That's why the
Bible says He who was He who is and he who is
to come Excuse me, I gotta be calm prophetic
intelligence. When he came 2 ,000 years ago,
he came as the lamb. In the future, he's not
coming as the lamb. Prophetic intelligence. And
then there's what I call revitory intelligence.
Revitory intelligence is simply this. It's the
ability to understand the now and the future
of God and interpret it to the present. Not many
people can do that. But there is somebody who
is in you who wants to give you that level of
intelligence. His name is the Holy Spirit. And
Jesus said, when the Holy Spirit comes, He will
tell you and show you what is to come. He who
was, He who is, and He who is to come. Now, How
we know Him affects the transition of the church.
See, let me give you a simple example. In the
earth, there are priests and there's a high priest.
But in heaven, there's a great high priest. a
mega priest, an unusual priest. His priesthood
is in the heavens while ours is in the earth.
So our priesthood is tied to us knowing him.
Our sonship is taught to him. But it's how we
know him. Because everything in the Bible, connected
to God, revolves around one word. Identity. That's
the first trick the devil pulled in the garden.
He said to Adam, you will be as God. Adam forgot.
He was the image and likeness of God. Watch this
now. Where you stop relating to God is where
you start to backslide. That's the key to spiritual
power, identity. So when our identity is gone,
we're a powerless people. So the question is,
who is Jesus in this now? My God. Who is Jesus
according to prophecy? And where is the church
in prophecy? They can't be separated because
He's the head of the same body which we know
as the church. So we're going to go into the
word today. And it starts out like this. Math
remember that Matthew. What did I say Matthew
16? Matthew 16 verse 13 and this is what it says
When Jesus came into the region and I want you
to mark that word region of Caesar where I Philippi
Now I want you to understand, oh my God this
is so powerful, I want you to get a hold of this
truth today. Israel was under Roman rule, under
Roman occupation. And one of the things that
was done then is when you take over a territory,
you bring your world to that region. So a lot
of Jewish things, as we would say, really were
not there. Notice the terminology, Caesar I Philippi.
Israel was heavily under Roman rule. Notice the
term Caesar, Caesarea. Notice the terminology,
as in Caesar. You good? Now, this is how they
were. This is a very powerful truth. Their understanding
of gods was that the gods were territorial. They
had no concept of the Almighty. Like in Egyptian
culture, there was the god of denial. The sun
was a god. I better be careful. See, that's why
in... That's how we got the day Sunday. It's
all paganized. Monday was after the moon god.
So the region what we're looking at is very important.
So they came into this region where there were
multiple statues of Roman gods. And it's in that
context he asks the question, who do you say
that I am? Isn't that interesting? Back then,
they had a choice of gods. Interesting thing,
their gods were man -made. So Jesus said, visualize
now, looking around, Zeus here, Look at all these
gods and statues. I remember to a Jewish mind,
he said, don't worship any what? Images. So you
can imagine how a Jewish mind saw this. So he
then said, who do you say that I am? Now please
listen because this is powerful. Who do men say
that I the Son of Man am? Mark that in your Bible.
Mark it in your Bible. In Hebrew, the term Son
of Man is code for the word Messiah. And I was,
Jesus gave away in the question that he was asking,
but they couldn't see it. Please listen to this.
Because today, Today, this is what the world
is asking. In the light of what we see in the
earth, who is Jesus? Who is Jesus? In other words,
relevancy is being lost. Respect is gone. Reverence
is gone. Now, Jesus is considered an historical
figure. Watch this now. And that's why to a lot
of people right now, the church is a thing of
the past. The church. and its relevance. Who
He is in the heavens is what we are in the earth.
That's the only way the kingdom can come. Now
hear now what He goes on to say. Some say John
the Baptist, some say Elijah, and others Jeremiah
or one of the prophets. Now listen to this because
it's powerful. The Pharisees didn't like him
But the Pharisees respected him as a teacher.
But the people, because of these miracles, called
him a prophet. That was an exciting amen. Did
you get this? This is very important. Because
Moses said, There's going to come a prophet like
me. He wasn't a teacher, but it was what their
intellect could take. That explains today why
most people can take teaching but they cannot
take a prophet. These are things that must be
understood. So who do you say that I am? And
why do you say it? What's my evidence? And it's
very interesting. He didn't ask people who didn't
know him this question, he asked this question
to those who followed him. Not everybody that
follows you is your disciple. We learned that
from Facebook today. Because you follow me, it
doesn't mean you are my disciple. We are told
to make disciples, not followers. It always makes
me and Marina laugh. When they say, We followed
you from afar, we've known you for years. Now
see how I hear that, I don't have any connection
to you. You're just a follower. You're not a
disciple. You don't know what I teach. You've
not received the impartation. You're just a follower.
So I can't take you as a follower into my holies
of holies because you don't know me. Okay, now
when he asks this question, They had already
seen him raise the dead. They were there when
he turned water into wine. And yet, all they
could do was relegate him to a prophet. They
didn't know him. Hear me clearly. It is possible
to come to church and not know Him. It's possible
to sing and shout and not know Him. And I want
you to listen to this real good. One of the key
words today for you to have spiritual sanity.
In the days that we are living in, is the word
no. Not no, but KNO. Sorry, K -N -O -W. You must
know in order to stand. You have to, I feel it
in the spirit. You have to know when the doctor
gives you a bad report, you've got to know by
those stripes you were healed. When you sow your
seed, you've got to know that if you sow, you
are going to reap. You have got to know when
you lay hands on the seed, they are going to
recover. You have to know. I said you have to
know because there is no doubt where you know.