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This is Jimmy Nanette and we are Living Up in a Down World.

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We are excited to be with you today. Of course Mr. Chevy is in his usual place sitting right in

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Mama's lap. He is... He's sad. Well when it was going on he's sad. I wish we could get that on

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mic. I wish the audience could hear that. He's hysterical because he does this thing where he just for no reason,

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literally just goes, oh, life is good. I'm in the place of Zen. I don't know. He's hilarious. He's funny.

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He loves it. Again, here he is. He gets excited. We put our chairs up and we start getting... So I have this desk.

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It's a little studio thing we've set up here and Annette's on one side and I'm on the other and Chevy always

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has to get in Mama's lap. It's cute. He's so cute. He's already out. I mean he's just like, this is where I'm

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supposed to be. It's so natural for him. That's why we included him on the cover art of our podcast. Well, people were asking...

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Yeah. I've heard about the Chevy. I can never hear him because you'll only hear him if he barks and that's rare.

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Yeah, very rare. Only if someone comes to the door or if he sees someone through the window. But we had to shut the

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shades so that he will not... Right. We do that on purpose. Anyway, welcome to the podcast today. We're glad that you're

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here and we've got a lot to talk about. I've got a long list. You were asking me... We had a wonderful week. A busy week.

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We had a great week. We're very busy but very fruitful. In fact, we had an event... Gosh, I don't want to get ahead of

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ourselves. Let's go in order. Okay, go in order. I'm going to back up a little bit. I will say this as a preview. We had an

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event that we hosted on Tuesday night that I would say in my 38 years of ministry, it ranks in the top 10. I would say...

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Maybe even the five. One of the best things we have... So we'll tell you about it in a little bit and I will probably cry

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once we start talking about it because... And what we're going to do in the future because of this. Oh, I am so excited.

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So anyway, we'll save that for a little bit later in the show. We've got some show notes. I'm going to stay with those.

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And first of all, we'll talk about... You turned into Tina Curry. What? She has to have show notes. Tina and I are a lot of

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life. You are so much life. And I don't know. We really are. It's kind of crazy. Just go with it. Just tell me what you're doing. I like knowing

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we're going. Like a little GPS, a little roadmap. Yes. Yeah. Well, I do too, but you really have it. By the way, you look stunning

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this afternoon. We've had a great Sabbath day today, have we not? I have a little red on my face because... And I'm a little shiny too

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because I didn't even put on sunscreen. We were out in the pool today, so it was such a beautiful day. Sabbath for us has become our

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favorite day of the week. It is. Because we didn't do it well through the years because we didn't really have a conviction about it.

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We just sort of thought, oh yeah, it's a great option. God gives us a day to rest, but we never took it. Nobody takes it. Very few people take it.

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And we have learned the hard way that it's important that we take it and that we enjoy it and receive the gift. Even though it's work putting

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this on, it's fun work. It's what we delight in. It's not something that we dread. Not at all. So to me, it's just part of our Sabbath. It really is.

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Because this isn't our church side. This is our personal side. This is who we are. And that's why we wanted to do a podcast. I was very glad that you

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brought it up to the church. I think it was a week ago. Or maybe you did it yesterday as well. I totally plugged it up. Oh yeah, you did.

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I plugged it up. Plugging this saying that if you want to get to know us on a personal basis, separate from the church, especially me, I don't really speak in the church.

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If God gives me something to say, I will say it. Girl, I would hand you the microphone in a nanosecond. But I haven't had that calling right now to do that.

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And so I feel very strongly that the best way people can get to know you and me together as a couple and separately is through the podcast.

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Totally agree. And I love doing this with you. In fact, when we started, we're on, by the way, this is episode 22. Can you believe? 22. That's blowing my mind.

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Yeah, it doesn't even make sense. Time is flying by. It is. It really is. Yeah. Time goes fast. Crazy. You know, when you're having fun, right? It just flies by.

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So we're on episode 22 and we're just we'll see what rolls out. We've got notes. We're going to run with it.

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And we do try to do this sort of extemporaneous because we don't want to we don't want to script anything.

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This is really this is very unscripted. Pastor Jimmy and Damon at unscripted. Totally.

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And and Chevy, of course, he's going to contribute his little groan or sigh every once in a while.

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Maybe he'll shift his weight. So let's talk about what we started with last week.

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We we had been gone because we went to Nashville to the K Love Awards and we spent some time with our kids, our oldest kids, kids.

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They're not kids anymore. They're grown ups. They're always going to be kids.

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It's really bizarre, though. Always going to be having adult conversations with your kids is bizarre.

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It is. It is. Sometimes I'm in the middle of a conversation going, this is so adult.

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And yet they're kids. I know. Anyway, it's nuts as you get older.

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But I'm telling you, we're aging like a fine wine. That's what I'm saying. Right. Right.

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So so being gone, we didn't get to hang out with our besties. Right.

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Our BFFs. And we have to every week. And now I am Adam and Tina Curry, who we're just so thankful how God has just brought our lives together for such a time as this.

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And now her and our walking. So, oh, my gosh, our our beasts.

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I kid you not. So what did I say for this morning when you all took off?

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Do you remember? You know, she asked me what you said and I laughed out loud.

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I'm impressed because at seven thirty in the morning, I said, I don't know.

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It's like a hundred degrees. You say have fun.

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I'm like, you call this time. I said, I'm impressed because at seven thirty, you all took off seven fifteen.

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Tackled the seven fifteen. You all tackled the hills.

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I'm like four miles, right? Four miles. And that's four miles. And we live.

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Literally, they don't call the hill country the hill country for nothing.

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We live in the hills. So I'm impressed that we can go four miles an hour on beyond impressed and depressed because I did it a few times with you.

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Can't do it. Just I'm like, I can't do it.

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And literally it was like, this is not bringing me joy.

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So I'm like, I'm out. So sorry, I bailed on you. But I'm like, no, this is not.

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I don't like to sweat when I work out or get tired.

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So, you know, just go to the gym, lift some weights and call it a day.

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But now I have walking thing is I have another friend who wants to walk with me to so on the base that I'm not walking with Jennifer.

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Yes, I'll be walking with Jennifer according to our schedules.

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I can work out. I think that's awesome. And I'm just like, wow.

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First, I didn't have you may end up with a group.

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Your phone. That's my phone.

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Check out. This is my ringtone.

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Check it out. That's great timing, honey.

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Wow. Is it important?

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No, it's probably a sales call from Tennessee.

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OK, there you go. I have a Tennessee number.

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Yes. Well, yes.

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We lived in Nashville. We got a phone and we always moved.

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And you know how it is. You just keep the dogs like, what was that?

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Mr. Chevy, how you doing, buddy?

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So we had so we had dinner with the Curry's on Monday.

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You know, I was missing them when we were in Tennessee.

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I was like, I miss my best friend.

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Remember, we asked them to go last minute and they were going to go.

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And then it was a time.

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I just couldn't make it work.

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And so it's hard on us when they're gone and we're away from or we're gone

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and we're away from it. It's really just it's they're just fun to be like doing

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life with our friends.

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And when God only way I can connect with them is to listen to Curry and the keeper

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or no agenda, know that, OK, I can at least hear their voice.

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So while I was working out today, you stayed home because you did your walk,

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your big walk, and we were waiting for.

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And I worked out here. Yeah, that's right.

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We worked out here on the tunnel.

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So I drove over to Bernie to Planet Fitness, did a workout power workout.

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And because Monday is kind of my day to just shake the cobwebs off.

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So part of my Sabbath never heard anybody say that, but you're taking the cobwebs

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on my whole life.

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Is that a West Texas thing? I don't know.

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Anyway, it's like, you know, just it's like shaking the whatever off.

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You know, you're kind of coming back to life.

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I know what it means. Oh, OK.

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It's a funny, you know, if you need me to define it.

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Yeah, no, you're funny.

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So shook the cobwebs off by going to Planet Fitness.

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And you listen to listen to no agenda the whole time I was there.

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My buddy, Adam, and I love John Dvorak as well.

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So there's such a good tag team.

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By the way, if you've never listened to their podcast, check it out.

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It's called No Agenda.

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You can find it on any platform, but we prefer that you go to Fountain.

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And he's a conspiracy. Therapist.

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They basically deconstruct media misinformation.

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All the media's fake news, which we talk about this almost every week

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on our show. It's a joke. But he really deconstructs.

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Yeah, great story.

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And there's a lot of context behind Adam's life of why he feels

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called to that.

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And he is running that lane for over 15 years now.

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And so anyway, yeah, check it out.

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But another podcast you got to check out.

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We're always going to plug our besties.

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Curry and the Keeper.

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We wouldn't be here if it weren't for them.

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That's true. You're not hearing me right now.

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This is just going to happen because we're just all for it.

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We're very close.

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I literally it's like get ready to laugh and get ready to enjoy

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hearing two people do real life together.

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And they had a real life moment on their last show.

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But I so appreciate it.

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They could have edited that out and made it real sweet and tight.

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But instead, they said, no, this is us.

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We have moments and human moments.

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You told me about that is people have written in saying,

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I love how perfect your marriage is.

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And she said, Annette, I needed him to keep that in because we had

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a little tiff on on air.

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And she said, because people need to see we're not perfect.

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And exactly don't try to live up to something that is not even real.

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She said, we we want to show people that we're real people and that

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we're going to have, you know, we have flaws and we have moments.

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Moments call them feel fully human moments.

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Yes, we all have them.

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We're divinely human.

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I think it was one of their best shows because they were so real.

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Kudos to you guys for leaving that in and not, you know, you could have taken

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the easy route and wiped that out and, you know, made it nice.

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Like we do. No, we don't.

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No, we don't. We never have.

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Yeah, yeah, we're just going to keep it in because we're real.

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We're just we're the real deal.

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So so appreciated that.

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It makes me love those guys even more that they allowed their realness

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and their authenticity to shine through.

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So, yeah, kudos to you guys.

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So we had dinner with them on Monday night because they're like, OK,

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we got to get together. This is crazy.

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We've been gone. They were gone.

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And they had some trips. We had some trips.

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So it was like we got to get together.

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So we hung out with them on Monday evening.

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Such a great time.

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Now, we had some amazing, amazing meat.

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Do you know where meat lovers?

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Well, it's from K and C out of Austin, which is amazing, amazing.

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She call it Pekana.

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I can't remember the name.

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I don't know the name, but whatever it was, I want more.

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It was that good. It was really good.

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Well, everything to resist everything.

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She and Adam makes just is really there's a real deal in terms of that.

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So we had such a sweet time, but it is such a it's funny.

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So I don't know if you all have couples like this in your life.

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But when we all sit down, it's a net and Tina across from the table.

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If we ever sit on opposite sides, it's going to get weird

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because we'll be crossing over.

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So it won't work, but they were sitting across from each other.

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Adam and I are sitting and we're going 900 miles an hour.

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They're going 900 miles an hour.

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And at one moment, I just sort of pause and look and I thought, this is hysterical.

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I mean, this these conversations are brilliant.

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But Adam checked me up on something.

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What did he say? This is what friends do.

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Friends, friends see blind spots in your life and they call them out.

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And he did it suddenly, but I knew what he was doing

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because I do the same thing with people. I'm a people person.

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And we were talking about screens and how our screens are dominating our life

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and how so much junk.

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So I've checked you up on it and nothing.

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He checks you up on it. And here we go.

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Isn't that real, though?

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Well, that's true. Parents or wife, you know, or parents or husband.

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I mean, it's like, oh, you're the rent.

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So I don't know.

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But oh, my gosh, this guy said this to me and I'm changing my life.

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I know it's funny, but it's all of a sudden.

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Oh, my goodness.

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Well, because when you say it, I'm going, I know I should.

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I know I need to back off.

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I know I'm addicted to social media.

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I'm on Twitter, I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook.

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And yeah, ad nauseum.

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So I'm on all those. And would you call me out?

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I'm like, OK, I'll back off a little bit.

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And I do. But he called you out.

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I pump the brakes. He called me out.

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And here's the way he did it. And that's why I appreciate it.

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This is what friends do.

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We were talking about it.

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He has what's called a light phone.

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It's a light phone, too, I think.

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And it's like a it's old school.

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It looks it looks like Minecraft.

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It's like pixelated. It's super simple.

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It's basically a phone.

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What I know, it's a phone.

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That's not a camera and a computer and an actual mobile phone.

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What are those? Right.

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So you can you can text on it, but you can't send pictures because it's not.

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It's not a smartphone.

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It actually is a smartphone.

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We need to start calling our iPhones dumb phones

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and call something like a light phone, a smartphone, because really it's the opposite.

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So I've been kind of fascinated by I've been looking at it and kind of going,

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this is really what I need.

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And that means you don't get you will go in withdrawals.

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I don't know if I can live with you for a little while.

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You know what? I'm up for it.

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Here's why two friends have called me out recently.

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They did it in love. Eddie, Pastor Eddie. Oh, OK.

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So they've done it in love.

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And so Eddie didn't do it directly, but indirectly.

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And I'll tell you, that's that little scenario.

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So we're sitting at a table.

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You and you and Tina are like at 110 miles an hour over there.

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Like, I'm afraid to even try to enter in your conversation

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for fear of getting run over.

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So I'm over here with Adam and we're talking about world events, propaganda,

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just what's going on, world scene.

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And really, our conversations end up saying, hey, let's not get spun up.

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Let's just not get let's not let this trip us out,

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which is shocking with what he does for a living, that he does not

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let it spin him out. It's amazing to me.

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That's one of the things that's a gift.

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Very it is a gift. Impressed by is that he he's in the middle of it,

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but he doesn't let it impact his thinking in terms or his behavior or his emotions.

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So unbelievable skill. It definitely is school.

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So we're talking we're having a good time.

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And we're talking about phones and how they spin us up and all this junk

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that comes in in our hands that our hearts were never intended to bear.

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What's in our palm of our hands?

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And he goes, he sits back and he goes, So what are we going to do about it?

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And I'm thinking this just got to be a one sided conversation

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because he already has a light phone.

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He's already doing something about it.

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What he's saying is, what are you going to do about it?

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What are you going to do?

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I'm already moving that way. I'm getting a light phone.

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So what are you going to do with your smart or so?

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Here's how it works.

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So you take your you take your SIM card out.

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So you're just going to put that up for a while.

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Put it aside, especially since we're going to be doing a sabbatical.

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Yes, we are doing a sabbatical.

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We're stepping into that big time.

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So I'm going to pull that out.

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I'll use the light phone and all I'll get is a phone call.

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I can I don't even get emails over it.

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It'll say that you have an email, but you got to go.

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It takes steps to get to your computer and actually pull up an email.

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And so, yeah, it's going to be pretty bare bones.

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And I actually it's a minimalist approach,

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which I've always been fascinated, but afraid to embrace.

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This is be real.

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I mean, I love minimalism.

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Remember, we saw the documentary with the guys.

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We we we minimalists loved up our home and made it.

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We've done a lot of things to declutter.

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Yes, a lot easier to get around and we don't have as much.

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But the one area that I haven't done that with is social media and screens.

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And part of it is I'm a nerd.

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And I did by going on your social media, which I appreciate.

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Yes, I got enjoyed that.

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I didn't get rid of my Facebook, although I'm considering just just deleting it.

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But it's I guess it's on pause or whatever they do when you still have your account.

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I think I do. But I went on yours, but I never go on it.

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Right. But I went on yours.

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I went on your Instagram. That's true.

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I we merged in a sense.

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I mean, that was really hard for me to doing that, though.

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I like it. It was good for me, though.

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That was part of my purging.

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But I don't have the addiction that you do with social media.

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And really, it's and here's why you do because people you write a lot of devotions.

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You write a daily devotion for years.

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20 years. OK, so you write devotions.

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Yeah. And then you want to respond to everyone who writes in.

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I do. No matter what you respond.

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Because when people respond on social media, I don't see them as a number or a name.

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I see them as people.

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So, yeah, that's that's it.

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It can take up a lot of brain space to do that.

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That's true. And time.

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And so to me, this is really good for you to and you'll be going off social media.

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I'm going to say here's what I'm doing.

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I'm doing a digital detox.

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Tina's led the way on this as she's pushed back from social media.

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And I've been kind of I'm going to have more deeper conversations with her because she

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gets deeper into this. She's doing, I think, 30 days.

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Is that right? I'm going to be doing two full months.

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I'm doing eight weeks.

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So I'm going to double that basically.

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And so I'm just kind of going to go back to the to the way you used to do things.

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What is the point?

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To me, it means I mean, shouldn't you make a change?

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It's just. OK, here's a weird thing.

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And I know this won't this will sound like a cop out, but it's true.

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I deeply care about people.

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So I see people on the other end of the screen or the keyboard as a human being,

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not a number or maybe get off Twitter.

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Or I don't do Twitter.

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Twitter is not a big deal to me.

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Instagram is the boring.

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I'm watching car crash cams.

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Well, maybe that's what you should just crashes and lots of old classic rock.

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Get off Instagram.

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So do your do your devotions on Facebook or really?

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You need to direct people to actually thinking about doing like once a week

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once or twice a week kind of thing.

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So that's what I'm thinking about or not.

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I mean, I may just take a two month pause in book form and get it out.

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To people or digital. Yeah.

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So anyway, I am plowing through that.

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I'm already thinking of how I can do that in the best way without cheating.

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I don't want to set up an opportunity for a trap door. Right.

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And so anyway, we'll talk a little bit more about the sabbatical in a minute.

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So we had a great time.

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All this was prompted, though, by him asking me a simple question, which I

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will be forever grateful for, because this is what friends do.

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They see their friends blind spots and in love, they call them out.

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The Bible calls it in First Corinthians, Chapter third, Chapter 12.

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Yeah. Ephesians, chapter.

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Oh, my gosh, I've lost it because you're on social media so much.

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You can't remember which script.

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OK, that was kidding. I know I'm joking. I know I'm joking.

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No. And Book of Ephesians talks about this.

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It says speaking that Ephesians four. There it is.

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I'm thinking about other things.

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It literally says this speaking the truth in love.

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And that's really that's what a friend does.

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So I so appreciate it.

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Iron sharpens sharpens. Absolutely.

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And that's what you two do with each other, which is when the truth is.

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I mean, at my age and my stage in life, I still want to learn.

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I want to be teachable.

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I don't ever want to get to the place where I'm cocky and arrogant

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and think I've got it all figured out in you at all.

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Jimmy, that is not in your DNA.

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No one in your family is that way to ever be that guy.

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I think she's married you because there's so many pastors out there,

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especially pastors that that gain a lot, get a lot of momentum in their church

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like you have, and they they let it get to their head.

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And then, you know, you've kind of lost them because they're in another world.

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And untouched. You have never, ever, ever.

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I it's God, God, if it weren't for that.

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And that's the thing. You recognize that.

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Yeah. And so I think you have a good level.

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Well, I'm saying this to all my friends.

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I'm teachable. I mean, feel free to call me out if you see something

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that's that's off or a skew, because we sometimes never learn

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unless somebody calls it out.

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And that's that's what's important.

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You honestly need to have a good relationship with a friend to be able to do that.

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You got to have you got to have a relationship that supports the way

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that supports the way.

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And so and it's always to bring good about.

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Absolutely. So thank you, Adam Curry, for calling me out and saying,

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what are we going to do about it after you've already done something about it?

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So I saw that coming.

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It was the right train.

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It was a slow train coming. It was the right train coming.

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And then I got called out again this week.

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I mean, I've been called out twice this week by care.

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Wow. After Eddie. Yeah.

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Eddie Freeman, Pastor Eddie.

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So Pastor Eddie Freeman, we invited Pastor Eddie and his wife, Jessica.

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They're part of our gateway connect.

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So Gateway has a network, Gateway Church in South Lake, Texas.

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We're we're connected to them.

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We're part of the network.

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And as a part of that, we get the blessing of having a pastor

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from Gateway be our connect pastor.

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And so Eddie Freeman, Pastor Eddie and I've got to be buds.

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And we have a ton in common.

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First of all, we're both rebels.

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Secondly, we both pump iron and work out.

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He played college ball. I didn't.

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I was invited to, but I turned it down.

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And so we both have a lot in common with sports and pumping iron.

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And we're dudes. We're just dudes.

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And so really appreciate him.

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But so we brought Eddie and and Jessica in.

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And we had a big blowout evening with our elders and our staff.

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Tommy and Patty Watson cooked this amazing meal, which they always do.

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They have the gift of hospitality.

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So anytime we do anything with them, it's always fun.

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And it's their house is wonderful.

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And they're the most they're the kind of people that just come in.

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The doors unlocked, just come into the house.

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And they're that they're that couple.

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So they hosted us. We had a great time.

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It's the first time that Pastor Eddie and Jessica

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have been able to be here with us on sites.

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They call it a site visit.

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So we've been with them a year.

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And Pastor and I do monthly phone calls.

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And then we've gone up for several events at Gateway Church,

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which he's always there at the door waiting to give a big bear hug

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because he's a big guy, the ex college football player.

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Yeah. So so we hang out.

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So it's been really cool building a relationship with him.

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But the first time they've hung out with us here.

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So what did he say to you? What was his car?

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All right. So here it goes back.

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OK, goes back to the yoga. Oh, yeah.

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So so one of the things he challenged me in love on a while back,

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our board of directors had said to Annette and I,

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you know, you guys have been there seven years that's at Oak Hill

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slash the Bridge Church.

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You all need to take you guys need to take a sabbatical.

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And when they first said it, part of me goes, yay.

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The other part goes, oh, I don't know if I want to let go of that.

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You know, I mean, I love what I do.

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I really love what I do, which is a miracle.

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Around everybody every Sunday, every day.

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They're my church family, but they're also my spiritual family.

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So I don't see our church as I'm the boss and leader.

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I see them as this is my church, too.

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And we're all in this together.

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So that's my heart in it.

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So I was like, wow, thanks.

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I appreciate my board of directors saying you guys.

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And they weren't saying it in you need it because you're in crisis.

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They're saying you need it before there's a crisis.

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That's what I love about the heart of our elders, who have great elders.

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Pastor Rick McClure, Pastor Brian Bush, Pastor Richard Brown.

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Amazing men of God who love us and love our church

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and have our best interests in heart.

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And so they were like, no, you need to do this.

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So we were like, what does that look like?

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We were trying to plan it.

451
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And that means you have to have it's typically this sabbatical is about eight weeks.

452
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,280
So you need eight, eight weeks.

453
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,840
People to come fill the pulpit.

454
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaking. Yes.

455
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,920
And that is very difficult.

456
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,640
But then you got to have your whole staff and team all set up, ready to go,

457
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,520
ready to cover all the bases.

458
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:50,080
So so it really is a trust thing where are we going to trust God and trust our team,

459
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,280
our leaders, our staff.

460
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,400
We have an amazing staff and our elders.

461
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,160
We have amazing elders.

462
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:03,800
Are we ready to let go and literally rest, move into the posture of rest?

463
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,040
And I've never done that in 38 years.

464
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,040
We never have.

465
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,160
Doing Sabbath every week is really a big move for us this last year since COVID.

466
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,760
COVID was because we had to tell our staff we're not going to you can text us,

467
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,520
you can email us, but we're not going to respond on Mondays.

468
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,680
We're incognito, so to speak.

469
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,320
But Eddie came in.

470
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,400
So here's where the calling a friend calling out a friend, pastor to pastor, friend to friend.

471
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600
So we had a great time.

472
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,600
And the first thing we kicked off the weekend, they flew in from Dallas, we hung out with

473
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,600
us and we they're in a B&B here in town because we have tons of B&Bs here in Fredericksburg.

474
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,280
And literally, we do this big dinner, big hangout, but it's super casual.

475
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,600
It's just good food, good drink, good fellowship.

476
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,640
And then I just turned it over to him and the first thing he does, and he didn't even

477
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,800
tell me he's going to do this.

478
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,800
He talks about sabbatical.

479
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,800
Why what the importance?

480
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,160
Pastor Jimmy and Annette, the importance of having them.

481
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,200
And I'm sitting there, I'm going, he's calling me out.

482
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,080
He's literally this is forcing me to have one and I'm not pressing me into something

483
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040
that we had said, you know what, it may not be a good time.

484
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,920
We've got so much going on.

485
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,600
The church is growing and healthy and vibrant.

486
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,640
What did he say?

487
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,520
There's never a good time ever.

488
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,520
You know what?

489
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,520
That's really true.

490
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,520
Nailed it.

491
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,520
Nailed it.

492
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,960
It's like new people who just get married and they're like, well, we're going to have

493
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,920
kids but we're going to wait for the right time.

494
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,600
Well, there's never a good time.

495
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,000
We're going to wait, wait till we have more money.

496
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000
That never happens.

497
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,640
We won't buy a house until it's the right time.

498
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,520
You'll never buy a house.

499
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,000
So he called me out.

500
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,760
It was good though, but it was so right.

501
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,640
And that's the thing is I always want to be pliable and teachable and coachable.

502
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,880
I want to keep learning, ever learning, ever growing.

503
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:05,320
So I'm thankful that two dear friends called me out this week and I am better for it.

504
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,680
I'm encouraged, I'm inspired, and I'm motivated because of it.

505
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Think about what they called you out on.

506
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,720
What the end result is, is you're pulling away from the things that you love the most

507
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,240
so God can speak to you.

508
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,240
Exactly.

509
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,240
I mean, think about it.

510
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,240
It's things that will better me.

511
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,920
They called me out on things that will help.

512
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,400
But it's things you love so much that you're holding on to and God's saying, let go, let

513
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,400
go.

514
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,400
Exactly.

515
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Think about the ramifications of that.

516
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,320
So all in with it and so thankful.

517
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080
And I'm grateful for good friends.

518
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,560
I'm grateful for good people in my life.

519
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:52,120
So we went home, looked at our calendar and said July 3rd for eight weeks.

520
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,120
It's scary.

521
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120
What?

522
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,120
It's scary.

523
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,200
Because we're used to pedal to the metal.

524
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
We've been doing this.

525
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,720
I've been doing this for 38 years.

526
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,720
You joined me.

527
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,520
You've been doing it for 28, 30 years with me.

528
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,240
And so we've been in this together and it's been pedal to the metal.

529
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,720
And so to suddenly back off the accelerator, not even back off, it's like park the car.

530
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Well, and I love that he said the same thing our board of directors said.

531
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,200
And he told this to all the staff and elders on Friday night.

532
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,840
You want them to do this now while they're healthy.

533
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,320
You do not want them to have to do that, to be forced to take a sabbatical.

534
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,320
That will not end well.

535
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,320
And it's true.

536
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,340
We're in such a good place right now.

537
00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:41,960
This is the time to actually do that.

538
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,840
And we're in our seventh year and scripturally the seventh year, God would have the Israelites

539
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,400
let the land rest for one full year.

540
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600
We're only doing eight weeks and we're freaking out.

541
00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:00,720
They did a whole year every seven years, they would let the land rest for one year.

542
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,720
It's unbelievable.

543
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,720
What?

544
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,720
I know.

545
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,720
So what are we whining about?

546
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,720
Actually, it's a gift.

547
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,720
It is.

548
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,600
We had to really come to grips with that, come to terms with, okay, this is a gift

549
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,240
that we've been handed.

550
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:21,920
We asked for a sabbatical when we were in Abilene and it didn't go over very well at

551
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,920
that point.

552
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,320
Yeah, we were not afforded that luxury back in the day.

553
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,840
So that was a hard thing.

554
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,480
It actually was a heartbreaker for us.

555
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,480
So yeah.

556
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,180
So anyway, I'm so thankful for good friends.

557
00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:39,980
And just as an encouragement to you, praise God for the good people in your life who are

558
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:43,520
willing to call things out.

559
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,680
I've got lots of people that say, you're doing great.

560
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,320
Keep running the race.

561
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,320
You're amazing.

562
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,320
And I need that.

563
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,320
You do.

564
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Part of my love language is words of affirmations, five love languages.

565
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,580
One of mine is love, words of affirmation.

566
00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,480
But I also, I was an athlete growing up.

567
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,840
I need a coach too.

568
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,400
I need somebody to come alongside and say, here's a blind spot.

569
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,840
They don't have to say it like that.

570
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400
They just say, I love you so much.

571
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,040
I see that this will help you.

572
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,480
And I'm like, I respond to that very well, by the way.

573
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,480
And so I'm so thankful.

574
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,280
This has been a week of calling Pastor Jimmy out.

575
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,280
It sure has.

576
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,700
And it's been good.

577
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:25,540
It's kind of, I wouldn't even say it hurts so good.

578
00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:27,000
It's just good.

579
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,800
And I'm responding and I'm motivated and inspired.

580
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,680
So so thankful for these kind of guys.

581
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160
So Tuesday night, let's go there.

582
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,680
Widows there, tell that story because this was your heart.

583
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,160
And I mentioned this in a podcast last week, but God had put it on my heart that we need

584
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:50,900
to really acknowledge the widows in our church, widows and widowers.

585
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:53,440
And we didn't know how many we had.

586
00:31:53,440 --> 00:32:00,200
I really thought we had about six or seven because we've had so many recent funerals.

587
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:06,520
And then when I went through the database and I found that we had 29, I was pretty shocked.

588
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:14,560
And so we, I put together myself and Lori, my operations director, I had her help me

589
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:21,880
put together a nice dinner and we, there was no agenda, but just to acknowledge that they

590
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,360
are being heard, seen and known.

591
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,840
Let me just, can I interrupt?

592
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,840
Yes.

593
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,840
It wasn't just a nice dinner.

594
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,840
It was an amazing dinner.

595
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,880
It was, but it was a chef's level.

596
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,880
I didn't realize it was going to be as impactful as it was.

597
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:42,440
For one thing, every, we had about 15, 16 show up, acknowledge that they could come.

598
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,000
And then our staff was involved.

599
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:52,440
And our staff served, we sat at the tables with them and we would serve them, go get

600
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,840
their drinks, whatever they need, if they needed refills of anything.

601
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,000
But the great thing about it, or what the thing that surprised me is when people were

602
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,600
walking in, they were literally scared.

603
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,240
They said, we didn't know what to expect.

604
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840
And we were really scared to come.

605
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Every single one of them that I've talked to.

606
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,000
And I said, wow, that took a lot of courage then to come.

607
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
What are you going to say?

608
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,320
I just want to interject just one thing is that almost every person I've visited with,

609
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,480
because we, the whole staff was wonderful watching our staff just go sit with people,

610
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,480
talk with people.

611
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,480
Oh my gosh.

612
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,480
They were amazing.

613
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,520
And they were just sitting there and graciously listening to people and engaging.

614
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,360
And almost every person said to me, I almost didn't come.

615
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,360
Almost everyone of them said that.

616
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,360
I know.

617
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,920
And to me, I was just thinking, oh, well, they'll just think this is a nice gesture.

618
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,640
First of all, they didn't know what to expect.

619
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,480
They didn't know what was this really about.

620
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,360
There was no agenda other than to love them well.

621
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,680
And so we both got up and shared our heart for what they've gone through and why we're

622
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,680
doing this.

623
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Beautiful.

624
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,040
And every single one of them that we talked to personally said, we have never heard, never

625
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,200
been to a church that has done this.

626
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,920
Well, you know what?

627
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,280
As I look back, we've never done it.

628
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,040
We've never been in a church that participated in something like this.

629
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Can I say something?

630
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,120
Now, I'm talking as a husband who's proud of his wife.

631
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,160
I'm not talking as Pastor Jimmy.

632
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,760
I'm so proud of you because it was so obvious to me that the Lord put this on your heart

633
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
because when you brought it up to me, I didn't hesitate.

634
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,320
I said, absolutely.

635
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,800
Is this not the heart of God to bring together widows and widowers to say, we want to bless

636
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,800
you?

637
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,800
All we want to do.

638
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,400
Now, I had four things and this has stuck with me.

639
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,800
Normally, I can't memorize four of anything, four names for anything, but this stuck with

640
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,560
me and I sat with each of them as I talked and went around the tables and just fisted

641
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,560
with people.

642
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,440
And then this is what came to me.

643
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:14,760
You're seen, you are heard, you are loved, and now you're known because one of the products

644
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,640
or what was produced out, again, no agenda.

645
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,600
You felt led of the Lord.

646
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,400
All of our staff, including me, said, yes, we agree.

647
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:31,280
No one hesitated, which is unusual because we had so many things going to add another

648
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,760
add an evening to our place.

649
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,840
From their families, it's a big gap.

650
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,960
None of them even flinched.

651
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,200
They were like, yes, of course we're supposed to do this as if we've done it all along.

652
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:50,960
So what I realized was during the evening, you're seen, you're heard, you're loved,

653
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,100
but now you're known.

654
00:35:53,100 --> 00:36:01,160
We didn't know we had 15 widows and widowers in our church until we dove in, did the work

655
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,160
to mine out who's lost someone.

656
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,360
And the fact that they showed up and even one who was young walked in late.

657
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,940
An hour late.

658
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:15,060
She came late because she didn't know what to expect.

659
00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:21,160
She sat down and immediately started weeping because to look at a room full of people,

660
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,400
because including our staff, the room was full.

661
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,880
And then it was just beautifully done.

662
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,800
Then tell them what happened when you invited Ken Beester to step up.

663
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,800
Oh my goodness.

664
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,280
When I first- I said his name on purpose because this

665
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,960
is a man I have high respect for.

666
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,480
I went to a Connect group a few months ago and I brought up to Ken and another person,

667
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,200
Karen Roberts, who is in that group.

668
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,280
And I said, God's put it on my heart to have a widower dinner.

669
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Would you too, because they're widowers and widowers, would you come?

670
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,040
Is this something that you would come to?

671
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,840
They both without hesitation said, of course.

672
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Well, I didn't think Ken would because, you know, male-

673
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,120
He's a dude.

674
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,120
He's a dude.

675
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,120
He's a rugged guy too.

676
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,600
He owns a big farm.

677
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,600
I thought he would say, no, you know, I kind of count me out.

678
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,120
He said, absolutely.

679
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:16,120
And one of the things that struck me that he said was, and you know what?

680
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,680
I'll even stand up and talk about what happened with my wife.

681
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,680
That blew me away.

682
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,800
And he said, and maybe it'll open up for others to do the same.

683
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,000
So a couple of months have passed.

684
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,480
I think he had forgotten because when they all came and I asked him to stand up and share,

685
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,480
he kind of was bumfuddled.

686
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,480
Yeah, a little bit.

687
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,480
What do you say that?

688
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,480
Bumfuddled a little bit.

689
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,480
Yeah.

690
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:44,400
And it was, but I think he had just totally forgotten, but also I think it was hard.

691
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,400
It's hard to talk about.

692
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,360
I think it was harder than he thought it would be when he made this comment to you.

693
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Because his wife committed suicide.

694
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,760
She took her life.

695
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,920
So this wasn't a sickness or a car accident.

696
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,640
This was a deliberate tragedy.

697
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,640
It was tragic.

698
00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,640
It was tragic.

699
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,000
And they'd been married 40 something years.

700
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,320
He still says, I'm in love with her still to this day.

701
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Even though it's been three years, he'll never marry again.

702
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,960
I mean, he is, it impacted him.

703
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:22,400
I have to say, I was thankful that someone had the forethought to put boxes of Kleenex

704
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,080
on each table.

705
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Because at my table, which was a total all ladies, the tissues were in front of me.

706
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,480
You needed them.

707
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,480
You were crying so much.

708
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,120
I was so moved at watching people get up and share.

709
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,120
So what happened?

710
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,120
He shared first and then what happened?

711
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,640
He shared and then others started getting up.

712
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,400
It was like the first domino that tips.

713
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,560
We used to play dominoes back in the day.

714
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,560
It was beautiful.

715
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,480
They just started to fall and people began to share.

716
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,880
And that was part of our hope that if Ken would share first, it would open the door.

717
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,760
It was literally like the flood gates open.

718
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Oh my gosh.

719
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,640
People begin to talk and tell their stories.

720
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:08,840
It was the most beautiful evening I've ever had in ministry because to me, it took so

721
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,760
much courage to do what they did.

722
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,880
So let me tell you the outcome of this.

723
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,000
First of all, we got to meet people we've never met before.

724
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,440
And we even had some new people there.

725
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:25,720
The attorney, Allison, Billy, who's an LVN nurse.

726
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:27,800
And we had all these new people show up.

727
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,940
Anita was another new one.

728
00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:36,320
They all showed up, like I said, they're seen, they're heard, they're loved, but the beautiful

729
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,500
pieces now they're known.

730
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,800
So what happened was I issued an invitation at the end.

731
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,800
Do you remember?

732
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,080
I said this, there was a book written many years ago by a famous pastor and the book

733
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,840
was titled, Just Walk Across the Room.

734
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,840
Which you never read.

735
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,840
You just love the title.

736
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,840
You just love the title.

737
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,840
And what the premise of the book was.

738
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,080
The title was an evangelistic book, but the title blew me away.

739
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,920
It stuck with me.

740
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,120
And all these years I was like, man, just walk across the room.

741
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,280
Just take a step.

742
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:11,280
So I challenged in great love and with many tears at that point.

743
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,440
As you and I got up and closed the meeting, closed the dinner, I said, on Sunday, when

744
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:23,640
you show up, you're seen, you're heard, you're loved, but now you're known.

745
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,960
All of you know each other.

746
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,460
You've seen your faces.

747
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:27,880
You've heard your stories.

748
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,360
Now, just walk across the room.

749
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,400
You'll never have to be alone again in a room full of people.

750
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,240
We had what, 400 and something people at church this week.

751
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:39,240
It's summer.

752
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,040
Our numbers will be down a little bit.

753
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,240
Usually over 500, but that's typical of summer.

754
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:49,880
But in a room full of 430 people, just walk across the room.

755
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,360
And what happened?

756
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,360
Five women.

757
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,440
Well, first of all, two of them came up to me between services and said, hey, we called

758
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,440
each other.

759
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,400
We traded numbers on Tuesday night.

760
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,440
We called each other and we're here together.

761
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,040
And I hugged them both.

762
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,080
We did a group hug, a try hug.

763
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,200
And I said, I'm so proud of you.

764
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Because now they have someone that has something in common.

765
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Oh, and you know, and I said this on Tuesday night.

766
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,400
I said, this is the club that you didn't sign up for and you never wanted to be a member

767
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,400
of.

768
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,320
You never filled out an application.

769
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,560
You never went through the process.

770
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,160
You were inducted into this club against your will.

771
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Exactly.

772
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:37,120
However, there's a powerful support system that happens when you have common pain and

773
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,840
common things.

774
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:44,640
So anyway, so we ended up having a whole group of five of them got together and said, we're

775
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,200
going to all sit together in church.

776
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,160
And then another person came up and they said, this is the widow group.

777
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,160
I mean, already they've already identified it's so funny.

778
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,360
You might not want to sit here because it was a married woman.

779
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,880
It's a joke.

780
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,240
I adore, I'm kidding you not.

781
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,360
I adore each of these people.

782
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,160
And what I love is Martha, who I've been trying to get into a connect group where she can

783
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,680
connect with some people that are of like age.

784
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,800
And there are several widows and widowers in that group.

785
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,200
She finally had the confidence to go by herself.

786
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,600
She didn't even tell me on Thursday.

787
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:29,480
And I was like, because I had asked her to go and I actually went hoping she would show

788
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,880
up a couple of weeks ago.

789
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,880
She never did.

790
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,880
Beautiful.

791
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,680
And then she goes and I don't, I'm not even there.

792
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,320
And I thought, okay, this is what, this is what church is about.

793
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,120
This is what Christianity is about.

794
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,500
There you go.

795
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:44,500
It's about connection.

796
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:45,500
It's about connection.

797
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:51,600
I always say connection is protection because when you're disconnected, the enemy will pick

798
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,600
you off.

799
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,320
I mean, if you ever watch anything from Discovery Channel or any of those, you know, those wildlife

800
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,640
movies, it's the predators always pick the ones, the stragglers.

801
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440
The ones that are off of the herd.

802
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,260
It's the ones that are in the herd and in the middle of the herd that are the safest.

803
00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:12,380
And so we just encourage people to connect.

804
00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:13,520
That's what the whole evening was that.

805
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Now what did that spawn off?

806
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,640
What's the next thing coming?

807
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,080
Well, you and I, you know, we were praying about it.

808
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,000
So what's next is single again.

809
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Yes.

810
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,600
For those who have been through a divorce, they haven't remarried, they're single again

811
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,520
and they feel alone.

812
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,520
It's brutal.

813
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Some, some say it's like being, having a death, but unless you talk to someone who's had a

814
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,040
death, it's not anything like that.

815
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,720
But in other words, you, you don't know what they feel.

816
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:45,720
Yes.

817
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:47,640
You can say, Oh, I understand what you're going through.

818
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,880
No, you don't unless you've gone through it.

819
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,040
Loneliness sets in when you're single again.

820
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,360
And you and I had a single again.

821
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,640
We did connect group when we were serving in Abilene.

822
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,640
And we've been there.

823
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,720
It's brutal.

824
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:03,720
It is.

825
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,000
And so we want to have a dinner for those.

826
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:12,480
And then the third group we want to have a dinner for are our parents who have lost children

827
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,520
because we have many of those in our congregation.

828
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,960
For those of you who don't know, we pastor a church called Bridge Church and we are multicultural,

829
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,480
but we're actually multi-generational.

830
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:29,520
We have young families, young people, but we also have an older congregation, beautiful

831
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,760
people, beautifully, but some of them are beautifully broken because they've lost children

832
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,160
and there is no pain greater than that.

833
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,880
That is, I can't even fathom that.

834
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,080
So, so yes, so we're, that's on the.

835
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,520
So when we get back to work tomorrow, we're going to talk, we've got to, we need to plan

836
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,240
those two dinners.

837
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:52,120
And there's no agenda on these dinners.

838
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,160
This is not like we're trying to spawn off a connect group or spawn off a ministry.

839
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,240
I think it'll organically happen.

840
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,560
If that happens, it's because it happens.

841
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,560
It happened.

842
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,840
But we're just here to love people well.

843
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:12,000
And I feel like I've never, I've been in this thing 38 years and typically this is be real.

844
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,280
Sometimes a ministry has a, there's a goal in sight.

845
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,440
There's an end game to it.

846
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Not selfish or bad, but you know, okay, we're going to, we want groups to spawn out of this.

847
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:29,860
We want, we want a ministry to happen, but we're only doing this under the leadership

848
00:45:29,860 --> 00:45:31,280
of the Holy Spirit.

849
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,280
Totally.

850
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,320
And we're just saying, we don't want anything from you.

851
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,920
We're here to simply say you're seen, you're heard, you're known, you're loved.

852
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,320
Yes, and it helps us know those so that when we see what's, but that's not the goal.

853
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,800
No, but the best way to get to know anyone in your church is to know their story, see

854
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,880
their face.

855
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,960
We call it seeing people in 3D.

856
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,480
Dinner with them.

857
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,080
I want to know those that are hurting.

858
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:05,060
When I saw those women in church yesterday that were all sitting together and they came

859
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:08,920
to our membership class afterwards, I recognized them.

860
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,920
I knew who they were.

861
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,560
I was a, I, I, they were lit up.

862
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:20,880
Yes, because now I know them and now I know how to respond to the, I know I can, I can

863
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,040
feel their pain.

864
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,320
I know that they have pain, right?

865
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,160
Instead of thinking, oh, they've got it all together because they look beautiful and they

866
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,320
smell good and they're in church.

867
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,360
No, there's a pain underneath that.

868
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,480
That is so, it's so real.

869
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,320
And now I can feel it.

870
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,720
That grief and that loss.

871
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:46,400
So my grandmother lost her daughter, which happened to be my mom.

872
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,200
My mother was 45 years old when she passed.

873
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,200
Way too young.

874
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Way too young.

875
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,320
And my grandmother, I'll never forget, and I was insensitive because I'm a young dude.

876
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,920
I'm a young guy.

877
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,120
I'm like, Granny, you need to get over it.

878
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,200
And she said, she said, Jimmy Dale.

879
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,080
She's the only one that can call you that.

880
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,880
That's the only one, she's the only one that's legal for it.

881
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,840
She'd say Dale with two syllables.

882
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:16,760
Jimmy Dale, she would, because of the West Texas thing, she'd say, I will never get over

883
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,760
this.

884
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,520
There is a hole in my heart that will never be filled.

885
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,520
And you know what?

886
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,680
I didn't understand when I was in my twenties, but I get it now.

887
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:34,240
I just still, a loss of a child or a spouse, both to me, it's, I just, I don't, I don't

888
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:40,640
want to go there, but I definitely want to be there for those people who have those losses.

889
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,880
I want them to know that we're a church that actually cares.

890
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,420
Not that there aren't, but we care.

891
00:47:47,420 --> 00:47:50,440
And we're not just a church that cares, we're people.

892
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,440
People that care.

893
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Human beings.

894
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,440
And pastors.

895
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,920
Care about what they're going through.

896
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Right.

897
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,760
Oh, can't even, can't even.

898
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,440
That was the highlight of our week, really, Tuesday night.

899
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,840
That was the highlight of this year.

900
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,920
It was that beautiful.

901
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Really was.

902
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,520
You know, when I came away from Nashville, the Lord gave me a simple two word thing that

903
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,720
has stuck with me.

904
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:13,200
Beautifully broken.

905
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,160
People are beautifully broken in this world because we live in a fallen world.

906
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:23,800
And because of that, we've got to not judge and assume things.

907
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,280
Maybe judge is harsh, but we don't, I do, I tend to make assumptions.

908
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,040
You know, I people watch and then I'll make assumptions on what I see.

909
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:38,120
But the Lord's been really dealing with me about assuming things.

910
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,120
Don't make assumptions.

911
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Don't make assumptions.

912
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,200
You just don't know their story and you've got to learn to see them in 3D.

913
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,200
Exactly.

914
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:50,600
That means seeing someone from every angle and get to know their story.

915
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,240
Then you can say, oh, I don't even have to assume anymore because now that I know your

916
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,600
story, I have context.

917
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,880
Don't judge people.

918
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:03,760
I mean, there are evil things that are happening in the world, but there's also, there's a

919
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,960
root behind it.

920
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:11,720
There is something that has happened in people's life that has caused them to go off the rail.

921
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:12,720
Pray for them.

922
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:13,720
Straight up.

923
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:18,560
I watched it, you know, on Sabbath, I go to the gym to work out.

924
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,720
It's therapy for me.

925
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:28,640
And they have put up at Planet Fitness a pride thing that says, you know, this is a no judgment

926
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,640
zone.

927
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:35,160
And I paused as I walked, as I saw those colors.

928
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,440
And there was two things that happened to me.

929
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,440
One was anger.

930
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,600
It just rose up and like, you know, why is this?

931
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,120
I just want to work out.

932
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,120
Why do we have to have an agenda?

933
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,000
I don't want your agenda in my face.

934
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,080
And so I was, I actually, I was kind of, I was like, I just paused.

935
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,440
I actually took a picture of it.

936
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,440
Yeah, you sent it to me.

937
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,440
I sent it to you.

938
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,360
You're like, look at what our gym put up.

939
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,880
All I said was, I just wanted to work out.

940
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,880
That's all I said.

941
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,880
I didn't even say that.

942
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,480
I just said all I just wanted to work out.

943
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,280
And so it frustrated me and a guy was coming out and we had a little exchange there because

944
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,760
he saw me looking at it.

945
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,680
And he goes, you know what that is, right?

946
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,680
And I said, yeah.

947
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,400
I said, I just came here to work out.

948
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,240
He said, me too.

949
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:29,680
And there's this sense of the flip side of that coin is behind those colors of pride.

950
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,680
Interesting that it's called pride, which is the original sin.

951
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,240
But anyway, it really interesting correlation there.

952
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:41,200
But the sad, the track, so there's a tragic side to this while there's people that are

953
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,320
trying to drive an agenda, trying to, it's very ugly and dark.

954
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,720
There's also people who are so hurting and so broken.

955
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:57,080
Adam Curry and I've had, Adam and I've had lots of conversations about, let's not go

956
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,560
after people.

957
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,040
Let's go after the systemic issues that are causing this.

958
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,880
And it does go back to sin.

959
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,480
It goes back to brokenness.

960
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,120
It goes back to a fallen world and it's shaping.

961
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,760
It's shaping how I preach.

962
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:18,760
It's shaping how he does his show, No Agenda, and we're trying to find, find the middle

963
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,120
of the road in this thing to say, how can we speak in the truth and love so that we're

964
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,240
not calling out people, but we're calling out issues.

965
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:35,200
So anyway, all that to say is that, man, just trying to see people that there's a story

966
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,200
behind everything.

967
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,840
There's a story behind everything that is thrown in your face.

968
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,000
There's a story behind everything.

969
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,160
So trying to see people in 3D and love well, you know?

970
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,120
And so let's move forward, man.

971
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,640
My gosh, great week.

972
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,640
So blown away.

973
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,040
I've taken like three naps this week because I, it has been tiring.

974
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:03,320
I mean, they'll be like late and then I'm still get to bed at 10 o'clock and I'm out

975
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,320
all night.

976
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,320
Look at Chevy.

977
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,480
He's completely, I mean, he's like basically snoring.

978
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,760
This was me today.

979
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,760
He's gone.

980
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,760
I've had, it was.

981
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,120
I've worked out twice a day.

982
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:21,260
And then we've had all these activities and meeting with people and I'm, I know it's exhausting.

983
00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:23,200
So you sleep, I rebuild guitars.

984
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,360
So I rebuild the strat today.

985
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,600
So for fun.

986
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:35,360
I'm looking at different, we already talked about this, but sabbatical, what is a sabbatical?

987
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:40,320
So I announced it about a month ago.

988
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,000
It's been a while since you've announced it because people came to me.

989
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,080
I made a comment that we're going to do a sabbatical for the first time and people came

990
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,080
to us from our church and said, fantastic, great.

991
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,480
Good on you guys.

992
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,480
You deserve it.

993
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,480
That kind of thing.

994
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,440
And then we backed off of it out of fear.

995
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,160
But really what is the heart of a sabbatical?

996
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,160
What do you see?

997
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,840
Well, I mean, it's to give us rest to, so that, and refreshment.

998
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:13,680
A lot of the pastors that do take sabbaticals when they get back, they're more refreshed.

999
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,400
They're more empowered.

1000
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,720
They're more in tune because they've had a good amount of rest.

1001
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:28,920
And what people don't know pastors, our job is not eight to five.

1002
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:29,920
We laugh.

1003
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,040
It's 24 seven.

1004
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,600
Even though we, we have opportunity to go to the gym, we have opportunity to write,

1005
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,000
meet with people for dinner.

1006
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,640
It's still, we could get a call at 11 o'clock at night and you're out the door.

1007
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,720
You just never, never know.

1008
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,640
And there's just a lot of prayer needs.

1009
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,000
The bigger your church, the more needs.

1010
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,680
So there's a psychological and physiological thing that happens that most people don't

1011
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,840
know about.

1012
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,160
And that's that you live at a state of hypervigilance.

1013
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,680
That's what it's called.

1014
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,260
Where you're always on alert.

1015
00:54:00,260 --> 00:54:04,800
It's like when you walk into a restaurant and you sit with your, your back to the back

1016
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,120
walk cause you want to see what's going on.

1017
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,200
You live in hypervigilance.

1018
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,840
So you do that as someone, as a guy who walks in the restaurant, I always sit where I could

1019
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,240
see the door to protect you.

1020
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:24,760
It's to protect my family and to be wise and have a situational awareness.

1021
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Well as a pastor, you live that way 24 seven, which means I'll wake up at two, three in

1022
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,680
the morning.

1023
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,800
And it's not to go to the bathroom, sometimes it is, but mostly it's like I'm thinking about

1024
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,800
people.

1025
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,800
I'm praying for people.

1026
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,120
Well, you have a sermon to, or I'm preparing a sermon.

1027
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,040
I've got things percolating in my heart, my mind.

1028
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,680
I don't think people understand what it takes to even preach every week.

1029
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,760
I wish you could turn it off, but you can't.

1030
00:54:52,760 --> 00:55:00,760
And most, I'd say 99.8% of people don't understand that cause they see us at our best.

1031
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:07,120
Every morning we're smiling, we got good cologne on, we smell good, we're wearing nice clothes.

1032
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:12,640
But the truth of it is, is that there's just so much that goes on that people never see.

1033
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,320
Well, I love that Eddie, when he was talking to our staff and elders, Pastor Eddie, excuse

1034
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:26,720
me, he said, nobody will ever understand the duties and what goes on, what pastors do,

1035
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:30,440
because if you've never been there, you will never understand.

1036
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,280
We always show our best.

1037
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:39,320
And it's not a show, it's not fake, but it is, there's a sense where we present well.

1038
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,760
We try to present well because we're trying to help people live up in a down world, right?

1039
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:50,200
So people often, they don't see the negative emails you get or the person that stood in

1040
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:56,320
your face and cussed you out or the person that doesn't believe, that believes your motives

1041
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,160
are off or that you're just trying to get something out of them.

1042
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,780
They just don't see that or the drunk that you dealt with or the drug addict that you

1043
00:56:04,780 --> 00:56:05,780
took to a clinic.

1044
00:56:05,780 --> 00:56:11,080
I mean, they just don't understand or see those things.

1045
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:17,000
So we present well, we look well, but most pastors are in massive crisis.

1046
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,000
Exactly.

1047
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,680
Thank God we're not because we have good people around us.

1048
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,640
We've learned the hard lessons.

1049
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,700
We're not in that place, but I know a lot that are.

1050
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:33,000
And so when someone comes and presents this opportunity for a sabbatical, it's a mixed

1051
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,000
emotion.

1052
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,000
It's like a prevention though.

1053
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,360
It really is, preventive medicine.

1054
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,360
It is.

1055
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,360
And it's a gift from God.

1056
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,360
It is.

1057
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,360
It is.

1058
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,760
Well, and one of the things that, you know, I mean, when we took Pastor Eddie and Jessica

1059
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:54,760
out to lunch on Saturday and Adam and Tina came with us and he had a talk with them on,

1060
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,360
okay, this is your role in this.

1061
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,360
As friends.

1062
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,360
As their best friends.

1063
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,360
As your best friends, this is your role.

1064
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,360
And at first.

1065
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,360
Here's how you can help them.

1066
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,360
I know.

1067
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,880
And at first Tina was like, you mean we can't see them for eight weeks?

1068
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,160
And he's like, no, no, no, just hear me out.

1069
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,160
I saw the look on her face.

1070
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,160
I know, I did too.

1071
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,960
And I knew what he was going to say though.

1072
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:15,960
Right.

1073
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,720
But he said, you can see each other.

1074
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,440
You can go do anything you want, but you can't talk about church.

1075
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,680
And what we say about church, because there's two things here, church for pastors and us

1076
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,840
as a pastor couple is work, but it's also our life.

1077
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,840
So it's both.

1078
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:38,600
It's a weird dynamic that you can't, you cannot describe it unless you've walked in those

1079
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,640
shoes and a lot of people like, oh gosh, you guys have it so easy.

1080
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Y'all just pray all day.

1081
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,200
You drink coffee.

1082
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:52,320
You're liable and take people out to coffee, but you have no idea what happens behind the

1083
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,320
curtain.

1084
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,320
This week was so busy.

1085
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,560
I didn't even, I'm doing a Bible study with Tina and both her and I were so busy with

1086
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,360
other, with her, with her things and me with our things.

1087
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,440
We didn't even have a chance to do our Bible study.

1088
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,480
I had to do it while you were gone to the gym.

1089
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,920
I worked out here and then I got in my Bible study because I didn't have time with everything

1090
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,560
that we were faced with this week.

1091
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,680
It's been a long week.

1092
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,000
That is our week.

1093
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:22,200
What I do love, what, that were one of the things, I don't know if I should say I love

1094
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:26,700
it, but I was a little taken aback by it, but we can't even go to church.

1095
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:32,160
We can't go, obviously we're not going to go to our church, but he doesn't want us to

1096
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,240
go to any church because he said, what will happen is you'll walk in and go, oh, I like

1097
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,960
the way they do that and take note of that to bring it to, and he's like, no.

1098
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,760
You shift back in, you get sucked back into it.

1099
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,240
How am I going to do that?

1100
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,760
I thought, well, I'll listen online.

1101
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,560
Then someone said when I was telling them I'll just watch it online, well, isn't that

1102
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,200
the same thing as you walking in?

1103
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,280
No, because I'm just going to listen to the preaching.

1104
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,560
I'm not going to see any of the things that are going on behind the scenes.

1105
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,080
I'm just going to listen to the preaching.

1106
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,080
Of our church?

1107
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,080
No.

1108
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,080
You're going to do that?

1109
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,080
No.

1110
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,080
No, no, no.

1111
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,080
I'll just listen.

1112
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,360
I'm going to feed on the word of God, probably from Pastor Robert and their team.

1113
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,520
Which I do every week anyway.

1114
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,080
I'm just going to do it on Sunday.

1115
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,320
That's what God, yeah.

1116
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,920
The thing is, that was kind of weird because I didn't think about that.

1117
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:24,600
I thought, okay, we can't go to restaurants in Fredericksburg or grocery shopping.

1118
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,160
The whole idea of sabbatical is a complete cutoff.

1119
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,160
Yes.

1120
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,520
It's really odd.

1121
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,520
But I see it.

1122
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,640
I do too, but it's going to be hard for us at first.

1123
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,640
It's going to be hard.

1124
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,560
In fact, Pastor Eddie said when he did it, he said the first two weeks were miserable.

1125
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:42,920
They were torture.

1126
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,280
I don't want it to be that.

1127
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,840
Because he wanted to know what's going on.

1128
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,800
He's so used to being in the mix.

1129
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:49,800
That's going to be us.

1130
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,120
Anyway, pray for us.

1131
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,240
We're excited, but we're also nervous.

1132
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,800
What's funny is our daughter's on staff there too.

1133
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:57,800
That's true.

1134
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,800
I had to say.

1135
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,800
She comes out to hang out with us.

1136
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:00,800
She can't talk about church.

1137
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:01,800
Her husband, Nathan Brandon.

1138
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,520
I can't even ask her.

1139
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,000
We have to go, don't even tell us.

1140
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,720
We don't need to know anything that's going on.

1141
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,320
All of this is about, let me just give the bottom line though.

1142
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:24,240
The whole point is complete rest, restoration, recuperation, and impartation.

1143
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:31,680
God is going to download things to us because it will be the first time we've pulled away

1144
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:32,680
in decades.

1145
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,240
This is going to be good.

1146
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,240
100% pulling away.

1147
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,200
It's going to be good for us.

1148
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,920
Even when we had a forced sabbatical years ago.

1149
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:47,240
We went to church and every time the door opened, we went to every connect group.

1150
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:53,040
We were so immersed with people and now we need to be...

1151
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,280
This is an intentional...

1152
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,280
Totally.

1153
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,960
Jesus would get away, go off.

1154
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:03,280
Scripture says he withdrew often into desolate places to get away.

1155
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,080
He could minister to the Lord and the Lord could minister to him, which is what we're

1156
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,640
going to have to do.

1157
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,880
I'm excited and nervous, but I'm mostly excited, but I'm a little nervous.

1158
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,640
I'm more excited now than I was.

1159
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:22,120
I thank God that Pastor Eddie Raymond called us out, called me out specifically, but he

1160
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,120
did it in such kind...

1161
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,120
It was crazy because...

1162
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,200
It was all for our good.

1163
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,360
He called you out and then that night you didn't sleep at all because you were like,

1164
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,640
oh my gosh, I have to do this.

1165
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,760
It was good because I wasn't wrestling in a negative way.

1166
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:40,360
It was a positive thing, a good thing, even though sleep deprivation isn't always good.

1167
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,360
Apparently, I'm doing fine.

1168
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,360
I keep taking all these naps.

1169
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,360
Yeah, you were like, oh, all good.

1170
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,360
I'm like, okay, I'll keep you abreast apparently.

1171
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:49,400
I'm snoring over here and I'm like, hey, I'm awake at 2.30 a.m.

1172
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,160
But anyway, all good, all good.

1173
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,840
Hey, I've got to give some shout outs.

1174
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:58,280
We have so many... We are so blessed with people that are supporting the program, that

1175
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,800
are watching the show and involved, so I've got to give some shout outs.

1176
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,680
First of all, I always want to promote Curry and the Keeper.

1177
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:12,240
That is our favorite podcast and really what led us into podcasting was Adam and Deena

1178
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:17,600
Curry with Curry and the Keeper, so be sure and check them out in their podcast.

1179
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Also just some notes from people that we love.

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Renee Sechrist.

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We love Renee.

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Renee is in our church.

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Her husband is a bass player in our band, our worship team, slash band.

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He could probably play anything.

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Oh, he's an amazing musician, but they're just a wonderful couple, great kids.

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She said, you're going to need a tissue for this one.

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This was last week's.

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So sweet.

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Then Jennifer Marshall.

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She just said, love it with a big heart.

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Can't wait to hear how the dinner went.

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So Jennifer, by the way, the dinner went amazing as you heard us talk about.

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We were gushing over it.

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Donna Strickland, beautiful comment.

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She said, enjoying every week.

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Thank you for sharing your journey.

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Sometimes we wonder, does anybody care about what we're doing?

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We're just sort of leaking out our life, but thank you, Donna, for saying that.

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How sweet.

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And also just to help people understand that what we're doing, this is not our church.

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This is not a ministry of the church.

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This is totally separate.

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This is Annette and I saying, this is our human side, the real us, and we're doing this

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outside of that.

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This is in addition to, so this isn't our work.

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This is our joy and our, it's our heart.

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I thought I was going to write books.

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I really did.

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And I may still do something.

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Because you have had many people say that you need to write a book.

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We have such stories.

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We do.

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We have crazy stories.

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We could be lifetime every week for a month.

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Every time I walk with Tina, she's like, what?

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Yeah, that's amazing.

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I love that too.

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That's another book.

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Crazy stories.

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I know.

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However, the Lord has given us this platform, this option.

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So we've leaned into this.

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And so one of the things that helps us is value for value, which I love.

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I love the whole idea of that.

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If you value something, then you support something.

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If something means something to you and helps you, then you want to give value toward that.

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And so one of the ways you can do that is to listen to our podcast on Fountain, the

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app Fountain.

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Get it on your phone, iOS, Android, either way.

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And really it's just, if you can do boost, you can do boost of grams where you actually

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write a note and say, Hey, love what you're doing.

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Here's a boost of grams.

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I'm going to give some examples of that and how that works.

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So we have 77,777 sats from the pod father, Adam Curry.

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Of course he's saying one of your best episodes.

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That was last week.

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That was last week.

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I loved last week.

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Oh, we had so much.

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There was so much there.

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And then from Todd from Texas, which is code for sir Brian with an I, oh, we know Brian,

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Brian, we know you, we see you.

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And he 7,777 satoshis just to say, love you guys.

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He gave a kind of a funny symbol.

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One sats from Scott ZC bless you both.

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God's grace and love are enough.

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Isn't that beautiful?

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Here's another one from Nick Z 0003.

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Also we had boost from AZUZ also Eric PP drew Scott absurdian.

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I'm just reading all these off.

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Circus media, the keeper.

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Who would that be?

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Keeper.

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And that we know the keeper.

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See dubs and sir Doug all given satoshis toward us and supporting us with boostograms.

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Basically to say, hey, we like what you're doing.

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We like what you said.

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Thanks for doing what you do.

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It's awesome.

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It's such a pleasure and a blessing to be with you.

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And we're thrilled to be a part of your life.

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Thank you for listening.

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And today we want to encourage you to live up in a down world.

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Have an amazing week on purpose.

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We'll see you next week.