1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,400 from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. 2 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,000 And we are excited to be with you today. 3 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,280 It is Sunday afternoon. 4 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,380 We've decided to move our recording times to Sunday, 5 00:00:38,380 --> 00:00:40,540 but we are living up in a down world. 6 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:41,580 Hello Annette. 7 00:00:41,580 --> 00:00:42,420 Hello. 8 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:43,780 How are you doing today? 9 00:00:43,780 --> 00:00:45,320 It's been a great weekend. 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,080 It has been phenomenal. 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,580 We've got to talk about our weekend. 12 00:00:50,580 --> 00:00:53,160 And we've got a topic that we're going to talk about today 13 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:55,960 that we're hoping and believing 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,220 that it's going to really help some people today 15 00:00:58,220 --> 00:01:01,400 because this is something that everybody I know 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,800 labors under this to a degree. 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,640 And what's the topic? 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:06,700 Shame. 19 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:08,240 Shame. Shame on you. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Did you ever get that when you were a kid? 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,500 Shame on you. 22 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:12,640 Do you ever get it as an adult? 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,480 Occasionally. 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,320 Probably. 25 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:15,140 Probably. 26 00:01:15,140 --> 00:01:16,420 We all have for sure. 27 00:01:16,420 --> 00:01:19,580 But we also want to let you know that Chevy is with us 28 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:21,120 and he is in true form. 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,360 He has crashed out on Dame Annette's lap. 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,360 And he got so this is how it's funny. 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,620 So this is episode 15. 32 00:01:31,620 --> 00:01:33,960 And since we started doing this, 33 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:35,960 the first couple of times he'd come in, 34 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:37,160 he'd want to get in our laps. 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,460 And we were like, no, no. 36 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:41,440 And then we gave in, which we always do to Chevy. 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,500 And now he, when he sees me start setting up 38 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:47,180 for the podcast, he gets super excited. 39 00:01:47,180 --> 00:01:49,140 He knows what's about to happen. 40 00:01:49,140 --> 00:01:51,680 He literally, so I have to move some chairs around. 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,240 I give you my office chair. 42 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,820 Then I go get your little tiny chair. 43 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:57,480 Because I need a bigger chair for Chevy. 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,460 Right. 45 00:01:58,460 --> 00:01:59,920 That's exactly right. 46 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,180 And so anytime I start moving stuff 47 00:02:02,180 --> 00:02:04,320 and he sees that I'm like moving the microphones, 48 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,720 it's like, he's just like super excited. 49 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,700 So he's probably the most excited person in the world 50 00:02:09,700 --> 00:02:10,960 about this podcast right now. 51 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,040 So he's our number one fan. 52 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,560 And because he loves getting up in Annette's lap 53 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,780 and then crashing out. 54 00:02:16,780 --> 00:02:17,600 He's just completely. 55 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:18,440 Except I felt bad. 56 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,380 My watch just got caught on his tail 57 00:02:20,380 --> 00:02:22,080 and pulled out a ton of hair. 58 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,900 Caught by hair. 59 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:23,740 I feel so bad. 60 00:02:23,740 --> 00:02:24,580 But you know what? 61 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:25,640 He didn't even make a move. 62 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:26,480 I'm like, really? 63 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,280 If it were me, I would be. 64 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Screaming. 65 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:29,940 Helping, yes. 66 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:30,880 He's unfazed. 67 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,480 Nothing bothers this dog. 68 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,920 This is the coolest dog. 69 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:34,760 Funny. 70 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,180 He's Mr. Chill. 71 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:38,960 So we've had a huge week. 72 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,000 I mean, we came off of Easter in last week's podcast, 73 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,720 which was number 14. 74 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,160 We talked about Easter. 75 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,000 We had a huge Easter weekend. 76 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,340 And wow, we did three services. 77 00:02:49,340 --> 00:02:50,440 Had a ton of people. 78 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,840 It was packed. 79 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,980 But we were just buzzing 80 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:56,040 because we were so thankful for what God's up to. 81 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Now, since then, we had a night of worship. 82 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:00,720 So tell them what a night of worship is. 83 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,040 I love night of worship. 84 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Night of worship is where we come together. 85 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,960 We invite anybody who wants to come from the area. 86 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,560 They don't have to be attenders of our church or members. 87 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,800 And we just have a night of worship. 88 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,520 It's about an hour and a half straight worship. 89 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,600 And in the middle of that time, we have baptisms. 90 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,440 And we had 14. 91 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,700 We had planned on 10. 92 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:27,140 And we ended up with 14. 93 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:28,140 And it was beautiful. 94 00:03:28,140 --> 00:03:31,940 It was mainly adults, only a couple of children. 95 00:03:31,940 --> 00:03:34,280 And it was shocking. 96 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,820 It was beautiful. 97 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:38,760 And for those of you listening who maybe this is newer 98 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,360 to you because I have noticed some of the comments, 99 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,360 particularly on Fountain. 100 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,660 That's where we get a lot of feedback. 101 00:03:44,660 --> 00:03:47,060 Have been, hey, thanks for doing the podcast. 102 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:49,000 It's helping me return to my faith, 103 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,160 which is uber encouraging for us. 104 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,300 Why we do this really? 105 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:54,100 So we want to see people come home. 106 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:55,340 We want to bring life. 107 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:57,040 Yeah, exactly. 108 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,540 And kind of erase some of the darkness of religion 109 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:01,600 and rules and laws. 110 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,140 I don't like the word religion at all. 111 00:04:03,140 --> 00:04:04,380 I know. 112 00:04:04,380 --> 00:04:05,480 It's a bad connotation. 113 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,580 It conjures up bad things. 114 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:08,320 Just like if we were to say government. 115 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,420 Ooh, wait. 116 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:11,220 Let's not go there. 117 00:04:11,220 --> 00:04:13,220 I got the heebies when I said that. 118 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:14,920 Yeah, I need to clear the room. 119 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,560 So same thing with religion. 120 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,320 And people have had bad experiences in churches 121 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,800 because churches are made up of people. 122 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,700 And we're all imperfect people. 123 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:30,000 A running joke of ministers is that being a pastor 124 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,540 would be amazing. 125 00:04:31,540 --> 00:04:33,880 If it weren't for people. 126 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,140 I don't agree with that though. 127 00:04:35,140 --> 00:04:36,140 No, because we love people. 128 00:04:36,140 --> 00:04:37,540 I told my church this morning, 129 00:04:37,540 --> 00:04:39,480 we pastor a church called Bridge Church 130 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,180 in Fredericksburg, Texas. 131 00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:43,880 And it's just a thriving, it's alive. 132 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,460 It's just so alive with God's presence and spirit 133 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:47,720 and love. 134 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,660 And I told the church I'd give you a group hug 135 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:51,220 if I could right now. 136 00:04:51,220 --> 00:04:52,560 You know you're opening up your arms 137 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,020 while you're talking. 138 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:55,220 And? 139 00:04:55,220 --> 00:04:58,160 Like people can see you and they can't see you. 140 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,160 Oh, you mean right now? 141 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,160 Yes. 142 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,740 Well, I have to act out or I can't talk. 143 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:02,740 Okay. 144 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:03,740 Okay. 145 00:05:03,740 --> 00:05:04,740 When you're a communicator, 146 00:05:04,740 --> 00:05:07,240 you communicate with your body and your mouth. 147 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,240 Well, that's true. 148 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,240 So even when I'm talking on a podcast. 149 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,240 So you're doing it for me. 150 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,220 Your hands are moving also quite dramatically. 151 00:05:14,220 --> 00:05:15,220 Not like you. 152 00:05:15,220 --> 00:05:16,620 You actually did a hug. 153 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:18,580 It's like give three feet, three feet space 154 00:05:18,580 --> 00:05:19,580 or somebody's gonna get hurt. 155 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:21,620 But yeah, I put my arms out. 156 00:05:21,620 --> 00:05:22,960 I would give everybody a hug. 157 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,020 We love what we get to do. 158 00:05:25,020 --> 00:05:27,700 But the culture we've tried to create 159 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:30,700 and we feel like God has led us down this path 160 00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:33,100 is a culture of grace. 161 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:37,460 It's a culture of mercy, a culture of love and life. 162 00:05:37,460 --> 00:05:41,140 And I'm just a, I'm a no stinking thinking kind of guy. 163 00:05:41,140 --> 00:05:44,220 In fact, there's a reason why the title of this podcast 164 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:46,980 is living up in a down world, right? 165 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:47,980 Right. 166 00:05:47,980 --> 00:05:48,980 It's because that's our attitude 167 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:51,180 that no matter what's happening out in the world today, 168 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:53,300 no matter how dark things get, 169 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:55,700 it seems like the last three, four years have been brutal. 170 00:05:55,700 --> 00:05:56,700 Really? 171 00:05:56,700 --> 00:05:58,140 Brutal on people. 172 00:05:58,140 --> 00:06:00,580 And things have gone just really awry. 173 00:06:00,580 --> 00:06:03,940 And gosh, wake up one day and go, how do we get here? 174 00:06:03,940 --> 00:06:06,660 However, you don't have to live completely 175 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:09,260 under the weight and gravity of a crazy, 176 00:06:09,260 --> 00:06:11,460 of a world gone mad, right? 177 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:13,460 So anyway, so that's what our church is about. 178 00:06:13,460 --> 00:06:15,740 And also back to night of worship. 179 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:17,540 So we're talking about that. 180 00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:20,380 And what we love about that, 181 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:22,940 and what I wanted to encourage those of you listening, 182 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:24,740 maybe you have never stepped over the line 183 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:27,300 and become a person of faith. 184 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:28,940 Maybe Christianity is new to you. 185 00:06:28,940 --> 00:06:31,820 Maybe it's something that you were involved in 186 00:06:31,820 --> 00:06:32,820 when you were younger. 187 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:34,580 And now at a later time in life, 188 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:37,900 you're thinking I got away, I got hurt, 189 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:41,780 or I got damaged in a church, or I just drifted. 190 00:06:41,780 --> 00:06:43,380 That's most people. 191 00:06:43,380 --> 00:06:45,260 And maybe you've thought about coming back. 192 00:06:45,260 --> 00:06:48,340 Maybe you've thought about giving church, 193 00:06:48,340 --> 00:06:51,540 the bride of Christ, and Christianity, 194 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:54,780 about Jesus, the groom, a chance. 195 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:57,980 And so we would invite you to come home in a sense. 196 00:06:57,980 --> 00:07:01,380 We pray a lot for people who have, 197 00:07:01,380 --> 00:07:03,260 for whatever reason, gotten away from things 198 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:04,460 and need to come home. 199 00:07:04,460 --> 00:07:05,460 We pray for them. 200 00:07:05,460 --> 00:07:09,780 And we all have our seasons and our times, right? 201 00:07:09,780 --> 00:07:12,540 So night of worship is this. 202 00:07:12,540 --> 00:07:15,100 Oh my goodness. 203 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:17,940 Some friends of ours just booked a trip to Venice. 204 00:07:17,940 --> 00:07:20,140 After John Lynch talked about Venice today. 205 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:21,140 We'll talk about that story in a little bit. 206 00:07:21,140 --> 00:07:22,140 I know, I'm sorry, I had to show you that text. 207 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:25,820 So a friend of ours, actually our across the street neighbor, 208 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:26,980 because she listened to John, 209 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:28,780 she watched him on the online. 210 00:07:28,780 --> 00:07:29,780 We had a speaker today. 211 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:30,860 Yeah, we had a special feature. 212 00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:32,140 We'll talk about John in a minute. 213 00:07:32,140 --> 00:07:34,460 But he was talking about Venice, 214 00:07:34,460 --> 00:07:36,660 and she booked a trip to Venice. 215 00:07:36,660 --> 00:07:38,860 She just did it because of him talking about 216 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:39,860 how beautiful it is. 217 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:40,860 Wow. 218 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:42,860 Wow, okay. 219 00:07:42,860 --> 00:07:45,860 Well, I mean, we're riding the verge of booking a cruise. 220 00:07:45,860 --> 00:07:48,380 Well, we are going on a cruise in January. 221 00:07:48,380 --> 00:07:51,580 With Mercy Me and John Lynch and Stacey and all these people. 222 00:07:51,580 --> 00:07:52,580 We'll talk a little bit. 223 00:07:52,580 --> 00:07:53,580 So, night of worship. 224 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:54,580 I keep getting off. 225 00:07:54,580 --> 00:07:55,580 I know, sorry. 226 00:07:55,580 --> 00:07:56,580 It was my fault. 227 00:07:56,580 --> 00:07:57,580 It's okay. 228 00:07:57,580 --> 00:07:58,580 I saw you checking your phone. 229 00:07:58,580 --> 00:08:01,140 Night of worship is exactly what that is. 230 00:08:01,140 --> 00:08:03,660 We celebrate, we do baptisms. 231 00:08:03,660 --> 00:08:06,420 Baptisms are an external sign. 232 00:08:06,420 --> 00:08:09,180 It's people who have said yes to Jesus Christ. 233 00:08:09,180 --> 00:08:13,740 I want to be a Christian, and I want to accept Him as my Savior, make Him the Lord of my 234 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:14,740 life. 235 00:08:14,740 --> 00:08:18,180 I want to follow Him, learn about Him, and I want to become part of the body of Christ. 236 00:08:18,180 --> 00:08:20,500 I want to get involved and connected. 237 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:25,220 And so that's what baptism is, an outward expression of an inward reality. 238 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:28,860 So our heart gets changed, and then we get to say it out loud. 239 00:08:28,860 --> 00:08:34,520 What I love is one of the women that came forward to get baptized. 240 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,520 It was not planned. 241 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,500 All of her family was there. 242 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:39,840 She's an attender. 243 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,200 She's a member of our church, but she's elderly. 244 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,680 She has a lot of health issues. 245 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:55,740 She's wearing oxygen constantly, and she runs up, well, walks fast up to the baptism and 246 00:08:55,740 --> 00:08:57,200 said, I want to get baptized. 247 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,620 She's pulling off all of her oxygen. 248 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:04,540 Her kids, which are in their forties, I would say. 249 00:09:04,540 --> 00:09:05,540 They're adults. 250 00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:06,540 I mean, yeah. 251 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:08,420 I mean, they're just like, what is going on? 252 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:11,940 And they run up, they're running up, and they're crying going, what? 253 00:09:11,940 --> 00:09:13,180 And she said, it's time. 254 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:19,260 I got baptized as a child, but it didn't mean what it means to me now. 255 00:09:19,260 --> 00:09:20,260 You and I lost it. 256 00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:21,260 You were baptizing her. 257 00:09:21,260 --> 00:09:22,260 Oh, I was crying. 258 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:23,260 I couldn't even talk. 259 00:09:23,260 --> 00:09:24,260 You were crying your eyes out. 260 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:25,500 You were just like, I can't do this. 261 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:28,340 And yet Adam Curry gets baptized. 262 00:09:28,340 --> 00:09:32,980 And it was so, it was such a different response and reaction from you. 263 00:09:32,980 --> 00:09:35,180 And it was because of the happiness of... 264 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:37,540 It was a joy, joyful party celebration. 265 00:09:37,540 --> 00:09:39,580 Yes, culminated into that moment. 266 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:41,780 We talk about Adam's baptism in Menteca. 267 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:43,240 That's super cool. 268 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,660 So Sherri is who we're talking about. 269 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:46,660 Oh my goodness. 270 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:47,660 So about what? 271 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:50,860 Two years ago, we visited in our three, four years ago. 272 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:52,500 I think it was before that. 273 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:53,500 Before COVID. 274 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:54,500 Yeah. 275 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:57,020 COVID has become kind of a marker. 276 00:09:57,020 --> 00:10:01,420 So it was before COVID and we got a call that Sherri was dying. 277 00:10:01,420 --> 00:10:04,980 I mean, literally in the hospital dying, her heart was failing. 278 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:10,940 I had to drive from Fredericksburg to Austin and go to the cardiac center. 279 00:10:10,940 --> 00:10:12,740 And oh my gosh, she looked... 280 00:10:12,740 --> 00:10:14,020 I thought this is it. 281 00:10:14,020 --> 00:10:15,900 Literally, we were like, this is it. 282 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:16,900 She's not going to make it. 283 00:10:16,900 --> 00:10:17,900 She won't make it through the night. 284 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:20,820 And the doctors were saying the same kinds of things. 285 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:23,580 And we've watched her bounce back and then she'll get sick again. 286 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:27,740 And she, I mean, literally she's like, she's a walking miracle. 287 00:10:27,740 --> 00:10:31,580 I was going to say the Energizer bunny is what comes to my mind. 288 00:10:31,580 --> 00:10:34,060 I'm thinking a cat with mom lives kind of thing. 289 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:40,540 It's unbelievable because I remember seeing her in that bed and she just kept trying to 290 00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:43,660 relay to us that they weren't taking care of her in that hospital. 291 00:10:43,660 --> 00:10:44,660 Remember that? 292 00:10:44,660 --> 00:10:45,660 Oh, that's so heartbreaking. 293 00:10:45,660 --> 00:10:46,660 It's horrible. 294 00:10:46,660 --> 00:10:52,460 But to see her come and get baptized like that, it was just... 295 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:53,940 I don't think there was a dry eye. 296 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:57,660 Even if you didn't know her, you would be crying watching that. 297 00:10:57,660 --> 00:11:01,380 Because I'm trying to talk to her and say, Sherri, you're such a walking... 298 00:11:01,380 --> 00:11:05,580 I'm looking at her right in the eyes and I've got a microphone in my hand and she's in the 299 00:11:05,580 --> 00:11:06,580 baptistry. 300 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:10,380 So our baptistry is like a big hot tub kind of where I don't actually get in the water. 301 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:13,900 I'm standing beside it and then we lower them down and back up. 302 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:17,780 And I'm standing there trying to say, I'm so proud of you. 303 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:18,780 This is a bit... 304 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:19,780 And I just lose it. 305 00:11:19,780 --> 00:11:20,780 You just can't. 306 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:21,780 You just start bawling. 307 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:22,780 I had to stop. 308 00:11:22,780 --> 00:11:23,780 I said, I'm sorry. 309 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:24,780 Every female in that room started crying because you were crying. 310 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:25,780 Because a dude was crying. 311 00:11:25,780 --> 00:11:26,780 Yes. 312 00:11:26,780 --> 00:11:32,780 Well, I mean, it's just real because I saw her at the death store and literally didn't 313 00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:33,780 think she would make it. 314 00:11:33,780 --> 00:11:35,820 And here she is. 315 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:39,940 And she's pulling her oxygen thing off and all the respiratory therapists in our church 316 00:11:39,940 --> 00:11:40,940 are losing their minds. 317 00:11:40,940 --> 00:11:41,940 They are. 318 00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:44,940 One of them actually came to me and was like, oh my gosh. 319 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:46,980 I was like, you know what? 320 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:47,980 It's good. 321 00:11:47,980 --> 00:11:48,980 It's all good. 322 00:11:48,980 --> 00:11:49,980 And it is. 323 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:50,980 It was a beautiful thing. 324 00:11:50,980 --> 00:11:51,980 So we baptized children. 325 00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:52,980 We had adults. 326 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:53,980 We had a family. 327 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:56,220 We had a Spanish speaking mother, Spanish only. 328 00:11:56,220 --> 00:12:01,700 And one of our staff is...two of our staff are very fluent in Spanish and he baptized 329 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:06,500 her and that was beautiful to see Brian baptize her and her family. 330 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:11,500 And then we had a 77 year old that wanted to be baptized. 331 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:16,900 All I was thinking about was liability, which because I'm over risk management, getting 332 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:17,900 up in that baptism. 333 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:18,900 I thought you were so funny. 334 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:24,740 But then I was worried about how fragile he is and what if he fell and it hurt himself. 335 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:25,740 And he was a trooper. 336 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:27,060 Oh my gosh, he was. 337 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:31,860 So to describe our baptistry, it's about four and a half feet tall and you got to get on 338 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:35,380 these steps to get up into it and step over the edge. 339 00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:36,380 It's daunting. 340 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:37,380 Yeah, it really is. 341 00:12:37,380 --> 00:12:38,380 For children, it's great. 342 00:12:38,380 --> 00:12:41,780 It might be daunting for me at this point, but it is very tricky. 343 00:12:41,780 --> 00:12:47,020 And so we made sure we had like three men on each side holding their hands. 344 00:12:47,020 --> 00:12:49,460 So we're real careful with all that. 345 00:12:49,460 --> 00:12:51,900 And I offered...his name is Cameron. 346 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:54,300 I've never met anyone in their 70s named Cameron. 347 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:56,180 And he's a guy. 348 00:12:56,180 --> 00:12:57,260 He's a dude. 349 00:12:57,260 --> 00:13:01,260 And precious man, he just lost his wife recently to a four year battle with cancer. 350 00:13:01,260 --> 00:13:02,260 What? 351 00:13:02,260 --> 00:13:03,260 A few weeks ago. 352 00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:04,260 Yeah, just a few weeks ago. 353 00:13:04,260 --> 00:13:08,900 And he had already planned and she was going to get baptized before she passed. 354 00:13:08,900 --> 00:13:12,660 So they were already on this journey. 355 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:16,700 And it was beautiful when he told me when he wanted to be baptized. 356 00:13:16,700 --> 00:13:19,740 I said, well, we can go to a river because there's lots of rivers around here. 357 00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:21,980 Make it easier on him just to walk down. 358 00:13:21,980 --> 00:13:23,540 There's a wellness center here in Fredericksburg. 359 00:13:23,540 --> 00:13:25,300 It has a ramp that goes down the pool. 360 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:27,180 They've let us use that for baptisms before. 361 00:13:27,180 --> 00:13:28,180 It's just really kind. 362 00:13:28,180 --> 00:13:29,180 Yay, wellness center. 363 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:32,060 But he said, no, I want to go in there. 364 00:13:32,060 --> 00:13:34,220 And I'm like, are you sure? 365 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:35,220 And he did. 366 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:36,220 And it was beautiful. 367 00:13:36,220 --> 00:13:44,660 Well, I think my favorite part of the baptism experience was watching all the pastors come 368 00:13:44,660 --> 00:13:48,500 alongside each one and help baptize with you. 369 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:49,500 This was spontaneous. 370 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:50,860 It was very spontaneous. 371 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:52,380 We had never seen this. 372 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:54,020 We've been here seven and a half years. 373 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:58,140 I've never seen a pastor come alongside you, much less. 374 00:13:58,140 --> 00:14:02,500 I think there were three and another staff member and they were all helping. 375 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:03,500 It was so odd. 376 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:04,500 I was just like, I was in tears. 377 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:09,020 It was absolutely beautiful because we are, our staff is very close. 378 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:10,260 We're very much a family. 379 00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:12,140 We're very much friends. 380 00:14:12,140 --> 00:14:13,500 We love doing what we do. 381 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:18,160 We all know we're living in a miracle and we know it and we're grateful. 382 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:23,980 And to see all of them walk over to the baptistry spontaneously and before I baptized the first 383 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:26,340 person, they stuck their hands in the water like they were going to help. 384 00:14:26,340 --> 00:14:28,380 And I was like, how cool is this? 385 00:14:28,380 --> 00:14:29,380 I didn't say a word. 386 00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:33,500 I just went with it unscripted and unplanned. 387 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:38,020 And when I lowered that person, they all put their hands on him and laid him down. 388 00:14:38,020 --> 00:14:44,180 It was the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced in terms of baptism. 389 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:45,180 And then Adam. 390 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:46,180 Oh my goodness. 391 00:14:46,180 --> 00:14:51,020 We talked about Adam Curry because Adam has been building up this baptism. 392 00:14:51,020 --> 00:14:52,020 He... 393 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:53,340 Well, I remember, let me just say this. 394 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:56,540 When Tina got baptized, I think it was four months ago. 395 00:14:56,540 --> 00:14:57,540 Yeah, yeah. 396 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:58,900 Back in October, November. 397 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:05,100 Yes, and he was there and I think something was said, you know, you're next or you're 398 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:06,100 going to... 399 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:07,420 He's like, well, let me think about it, you know? 400 00:15:07,420 --> 00:15:12,980 And then I think he just began to really seriously think about it and his faith began to grow 401 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:15,380 until finally he said, I'm ready. 402 00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:21,220 And so we gave him some dates and we said, because whatever date you want, we'll open 403 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:25,460 it up to the family, basically, anybody who wants to get baptized. 404 00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:32,660 And so he gave us enough time out there that we were able to plan it. 405 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:33,660 And boy... 406 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:34,660 Oh, he was stoked. 407 00:15:34,660 --> 00:15:35,660 So you got to understand... 408 00:15:35,660 --> 00:15:40,500 He even knew what he was going to... down to what he was going to wear in that baptism. 409 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:43,840 So for those of you listening to this podcast, the reason you're actually listening to any 410 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:49,100 podcast is because he invented podcasting about 17, 18 years ago is when it kind of 411 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:51,980 became a brainchild, him and another guy together. 412 00:15:51,980 --> 00:15:54,460 And so he's considered the pod father. 413 00:15:54,460 --> 00:16:00,420 He is a great podcast with John DeVorek called No Agenda, we highly recommend. 414 00:16:00,420 --> 00:16:05,480 And then also our favorite, and we love all of them, but our favorite really is with Adam 415 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,260 and Tina, his wife. 416 00:16:07,260 --> 00:16:09,220 It's called Curry and the Keeper, highly recommend. 417 00:16:09,220 --> 00:16:10,220 We talk about it every week. 418 00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:12,020 I know, and I'm going to keep talking about it. 419 00:16:12,020 --> 00:16:13,380 And they talk about ours as well. 420 00:16:13,380 --> 00:16:14,380 That's true. 421 00:16:14,380 --> 00:16:15,380 That's true. 422 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:16,380 That's value for value, right? 423 00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:17,740 We love these guys. 424 00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:22,980 And we're so proud of them because we've got a 50 yard line seat to their journey of faith 425 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:24,820 and they made up their mind to walk together. 426 00:16:24,820 --> 00:16:27,740 So it culminates in Adam getting baptized. 427 00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:31,180 He's super excited and he's losing his mind over it. 428 00:16:31,180 --> 00:16:35,380 He's talking about it on the podcast, but he wants LED lights in the baptistry, wants 429 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:36,380 haze in the air. 430 00:16:36,380 --> 00:16:37,380 He wants me to play a solo. 431 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:38,380 I mean, it's hilarious. 432 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:42,420 Which we did not do any of that because it's so Baptist. 433 00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:43,580 It didn't matter. 434 00:16:43,580 --> 00:16:49,040 So I'm looking up the Twitter, the tweet that I posted about Adam. 435 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,500 So I asked Adam, because I never presume on a friend and I just say, Hey, you mind if 436 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,460 I post a picture of your baptism? 437 00:16:55,460 --> 00:16:57,700 He's like, please do get it out there. 438 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:02,240 And so I posted this picture and I wrote this year, my friend, Adam Curry has been growing 439 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,300 in his faith journey. 440 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:08,180 And last night it culminated in his profession of faith and subsequent baptism. 441 00:17:08,180 --> 00:17:13,500 Tina was baptized recently and they're on the journey together and I wrote those faces, 442 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:17,980 pure joy, because it's a picture of Adam, this massive smile. 443 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:20,140 And there are pastors all around and smile. 444 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:23,500 It was just a party, party in the baptistry with Adam. 445 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:24,500 Go figure. 446 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:31,180 I'm looking right now just to see how many, how many views that's had. 447 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:35,340 I'm looking, oh, over 45,000 views. 448 00:17:35,340 --> 00:17:44,580 862 comments, no 862 likes, 72 retweets, 85 comments. 449 00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:47,460 And that's just from one tweet of people. 450 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:48,460 This isn't about me. 451 00:17:48,460 --> 00:17:49,460 This is about Adam. 452 00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:54,060 People are so excited that Adam stepped over the line, gave his heart to Jesus. 453 00:17:54,060 --> 00:17:57,140 Now his buckets are full and overflowing. 454 00:17:57,140 --> 00:17:58,660 He's leaking out all over the place. 455 00:17:58,660 --> 00:17:59,660 He's so full of Jesus. 456 00:17:59,660 --> 00:18:01,180 It's amazing to see what God's done. 457 00:18:01,180 --> 00:18:02,180 Very cool. 458 00:18:02,180 --> 00:18:03,180 Very cool. 459 00:18:03,180 --> 00:18:04,340 So that was our night of worship. 460 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:06,020 It was just a great celebration. 461 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:07,020 So we've had a great week. 462 00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:11,420 And then on, when did John and Stacey get here? 463 00:18:11,420 --> 00:18:14,300 So we have some dear friends, John and Stacey Lynch. 464 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:18,040 John wrote a book called The Cure with two other guys. 465 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,380 Later he wrote another book called On My Worst Day. 466 00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:24,140 I highly recommend both of those books. 467 00:18:24,140 --> 00:18:29,060 And John, John grew up in California, then later in Arizona. 468 00:18:29,060 --> 00:18:32,580 And he is a master storyteller. 469 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:33,780 Oh my goodness. 470 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:40,780 A master communicator and just one of the best wordsmiths in the pulpit of it. 471 00:18:40,780 --> 00:18:41,780 But he is not a preacher. 472 00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:43,220 And he pastored how many years? 473 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:44,220 35 years. 474 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:45,220 35 years. 475 00:18:45,220 --> 00:18:46,900 Open door fellowship in Phoenix. 476 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:48,260 But he's not like a preacher. 477 00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:49,820 He is more like an actor. 478 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:52,900 He acts out his sermons. 479 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:55,100 It's because he went to school. 480 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:59,020 Well, he was in theater and he was a theater teacher at one point. 481 00:18:59,020 --> 00:19:00,020 And then he got saved. 482 00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:01,020 Radically saved. 483 00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:06,900 He changed everything but it didn't affect that part of his life because he used that 484 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:09,420 talent that he has in acting. 485 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:11,060 For sermon, it's amazing. 486 00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:12,780 And he tells the story. 487 00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:17,900 So we're not just seeing an actor up there that's acting out and doesn't truly believe 488 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,340 what he's saying. 489 00:19:20,340 --> 00:19:21,340 It's amazing. 490 00:19:21,340 --> 00:19:23,100 I would encourage you to go to our website. 491 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:25,100 It's bridgefbg.com. 492 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,820 Bridgefbg.com. 493 00:19:27,820 --> 00:19:29,140 And watch the message from today. 494 00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:31,900 We had a 9 a.m. service, 1045. 495 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:33,420 The first part of it's worship. 496 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:34,420 You can fast forward. 497 00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:38,140 If you want to go right to John's message, watch John Lynch. 498 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:43,380 John is an amazing author, speaker, pastor. 499 00:19:43,380 --> 00:19:48,380 Now his son Caleb is pastoring that church while John's traveling now in Stacy. 500 00:19:48,380 --> 00:19:49,780 So we had John last year. 501 00:19:49,780 --> 00:19:52,220 It just blew our world up and it was so good. 502 00:19:52,220 --> 00:19:53,700 And we just fell in love. 503 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:54,900 We felt like we had a best friend. 504 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:56,460 I mean, this is our new best friend. 505 00:19:56,460 --> 00:19:58,620 And then we brought Stacy with him this time. 506 00:19:58,620 --> 00:20:00,900 And immediately it was like family. 507 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:02,540 And it's interesting when you meet. 508 00:20:02,540 --> 00:20:05,740 I was telling John today, I said, John, it's funny because when we're in our 20s and we 509 00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:08,700 meet somebody, we don't have a lot of history to talk about. 510 00:20:08,700 --> 00:20:13,380 So you run out of stuff to talk about after about 15 minutes when you're in your 20s. 511 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:17,980 But when you're our age, which I will not say out loud because at the same time, I'm 512 00:20:17,980 --> 00:20:18,980 not going to do it on honey. 513 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:21,340 I'm going to respect you. 514 00:20:21,340 --> 00:20:24,140 We're supposed to respect our elders. 515 00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:27,880 So as Annette and I have gotten a little bit older, a little more what we would call treadwear 516 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,880 on our tires, right? 517 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,880 That's for sure. 518 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,020 One way to say it. 519 00:20:32,020 --> 00:20:34,660 What's happened is, is we have story after story after story. 520 00:20:34,660 --> 00:20:36,580 And then John and Stacy have story after story. 521 00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:40,860 And then we went out to eat with Adam and Tina and John and Stacy and us. 522 00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:43,900 And you talk about a table full of stories. 523 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:45,320 Oh my goodness. 524 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,300 We couldn't put them in eight volumes of books. 525 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:53,420 I mean, that's and for four hours plus we sat when we got kicked out of our table, we 526 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:55,780 were there for two hours and they kicked us out of the restaurant. 527 00:20:55,780 --> 00:20:59,140 And they just gave us our food and said, somebody needs your table. 528 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:01,140 Now we were like, what? 529 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,060 Well, you you've been here two hours. 530 00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:08,500 I know you're just now getting your food because you ordered late, but sorry, eat and go. 531 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:09,500 Not happy about that. 532 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,980 But we may be leaving a review for those guys. 533 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:14,100 So anyway, they booted us out of our table. 534 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:19,340 So Annette, we call her mama a when she gets into fire mode, she went up and had a good 535 00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:20,340 conversation. 536 00:21:20,340 --> 00:21:22,340 You were very kind. 537 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:27,300 These people behind us said they wanted to give us their table because they had an hour 538 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:28,380 and a half left. 539 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:29,380 So we're going to sit there. 540 00:21:29,380 --> 00:21:34,860 And he looked over and he said, but that table is not for six people and y'all have six. 541 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:36,320 That's just too crowded. 542 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,420 Let me move you out to the patio to a nice table, which was perfect. 543 00:21:41,420 --> 00:21:44,340 We're at this beautiful restaurant and winery. 544 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:45,860 I'm not going to name the name. 545 00:21:45,860 --> 00:21:51,060 I'm going to be no because we're not happy with it right now, even though we're members. 546 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:53,460 I will write a review. 547 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:54,460 I'm sure you will. 548 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:56,340 And it'll be kind, but firm. 549 00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:59,120 So truthful, speak the truth in love. 550 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:03,020 So anyway, we went out there and it turned out to be beautiful, perfect day. 551 00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:04,220 And we sat out there for another two hours. 552 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:05,280 It was actually better. 553 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,040 It turned out I wish we'd stayed been there the whole time. 554 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,960 But we had a great time and story after story around the table because the older you get. 555 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,780 So what I was telling John is like, now we've got all these stories and shared life experiences. 556 00:22:17,780 --> 00:22:21,900 Talk about iron sharpening iron and friendship and growth. 557 00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:22,900 Powerful stuff. 558 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:30,620 John did our men's meeting on a Saturday morning, crushed it, hit it out of the park, grand slam. 559 00:22:30,620 --> 00:22:35,560 With 60 men show up early in the morning on Saturday, beautiful time together. 560 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,720 And then of course we had our lunch with them and Adam and Tina. 561 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,980 So many things are going on. 562 00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:43,340 My mind's buzzing. 563 00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:45,120 The Mercy Me opportunity. 564 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,580 So many things with the Mercy Me band. 565 00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:48,700 So here's another thing that happened. 566 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:53,860 So John spoke this morning, but a few weeks ago I was visiting with Michael, who is the 567 00:22:53,860 --> 00:22:56,060 lead guitar player for Mercy Me. 568 00:22:56,060 --> 00:23:00,820 He reached out to me through Facebook through a pastor friend named Darren Tyler at Conduit 569 00:23:00,820 --> 00:23:02,700 Church in Franklin. 570 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:04,740 And so he reaches out through Darren. 571 00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:06,820 Darren goes, yeah, I know Jimmy Pruitt. 572 00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:08,620 He goes, oh, we love Adam Curry. 573 00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:09,900 We're no agenda fans. 574 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:13,100 The whole Mercy Me group loved no agenda. 575 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,780 They love no agenda. 576 00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:20,620 And so he reached out to me and said, hey, this is a long shot, but I understand you're 577 00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:21,620 Adam's pastor. 578 00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:25,660 I said, well, I'm his friend, but I'm also his pastor, but I'm his friend first. 579 00:23:25,660 --> 00:23:32,000 And he said, hey, if we're ever traveling out in that area, we'd like to VIP you guys 580 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000 to a concert. 581 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And guess what I did? 582 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,180 I got online and I looked and they're here April 16th. 583 00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:41,580 And I'm like, Jimmy, that's in three weeks. 584 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:42,580 Yeah. 585 00:23:42,580 --> 00:23:45,020 And I reached out to Michael said, Michael, we would love to do that. 586 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:49,380 Let me check in with Adam and Tina, see if they're available on the 16th and sure enough. 587 00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:50,380 We're leaving in two hours. 588 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:54,860 Yeah, we're doing our broadcast now and we'll be getting jetting over to San Antonio for 589 00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:55,860 the night. 590 00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:58,940 But so, and then Michael and I hit it off. 591 00:23:58,940 --> 00:24:02,420 We ended up texting one night, what, five hours back and forth. 592 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:03,420 Five and a half. 593 00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:04,420 Five and a half hours. 594 00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:08,540 You're like, you're still on, not on the phone, like talking, but texting the whole time. 595 00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:10,820 I felt kind of neglected that night. 596 00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:11,820 I'm sorry. 597 00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:15,180 I'll tell you when you meet Michael, you can scold him. 598 00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:17,920 You can scold Michael tonight when you meet him. 599 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,300 So we get to meet the band tonight. 600 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:20,300 We're looking forward to that. 601 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:22,820 Michael and I are both, he's a guitar player, I'm a guitar player. 602 00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:27,180 So we got into gear conversations, which that's when it went rogue, you know? 603 00:24:27,180 --> 00:24:32,300 But anyway, so Adam and Tina, Tina knew about Mercy Me. 604 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:34,780 Adam had not only heard one song, which was the famous song. 605 00:24:34,780 --> 00:24:39,980 And she knew because everybody knows, most people know I Can Only Imagine. 606 00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:43,400 Because that song, it wasn't just a Christian song. 607 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,300 It crossed over to the pop stations. 608 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,440 And so it's a very well-known song. 609 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,060 And then also they made a movie. 610 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:52,060 Yeah, I Can Only Imagine. 611 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:54,780 Of Art's Life called I Can Only Imagine. 612 00:24:54,780 --> 00:24:59,660 So Adam got to watch that last night, the night before he had to watch it in two different 613 00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:02,940 segments. 614 00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:04,780 So it's a really cool connection. 615 00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:10,580 So while I'm talking to Michael that night that we had the marathon text thing, I mentioned, 616 00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:14,140 oh, and by the way, we're hosting John and Stacey Lynch. 617 00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:16,380 He lost his mind. 618 00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:18,540 Michael says, we love that guy. 619 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:20,540 I knew they were connected to Mercy Me. 620 00:25:20,540 --> 00:25:21,540 I did not know. 621 00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:22,540 I don't remember that. 622 00:25:22,540 --> 00:25:25,980 I knew it because of Bart's connection to the 220 network and all that. 623 00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:26,980 I didn't know that. 624 00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:28,060 I already knew that. 625 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:34,100 But I didn't know how connected until Michael went ape nuts on the phone. 626 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,780 And I said, it's going to be the weekend that the concert's here. 627 00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:41,340 And he was like, oh my gosh, I wish they could come to the concert with you. 628 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:44,420 They had an engagement over in Austin they had to get to this afternoon. 629 00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:45,420 So we didn't get to go. 630 00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:49,780 But anyway, you begin to realize that the world's small. 631 00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:52,140 As you get older, you know more people. 632 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:53,660 The net goes all the way. 633 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:56,860 It's like this big net around the globe where you know all these people. 634 00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:59,580 And then you begin to realize, wait, I know that person. 635 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:00,580 Who knows that person? 636 00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:02,100 I may not know them, but I know their friend. 637 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:07,780 And all these connections are happening right now that are just crazy, just wild. 638 00:26:07,780 --> 00:26:09,660 And so anyway, we'll go do that tonight. 639 00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:10,940 It's going to be a blast. 640 00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:14,300 And they're going to give us the VIP and give us a bunch of merch. 641 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:15,540 And I don't know what that means. 642 00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:18,100 So that means you get to sit special seating. 643 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:20,700 Is it like right up front where it's too loud? 644 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:22,500 It'll probably be up front. 645 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:26,280 And then we'll go in to the back. 646 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,780 So we get to park by the buses. 647 00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:30,860 And in fact, Michael will meet us out there with tickets. 648 00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:33,860 So it's a real neat thing. 649 00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:36,740 But they're goo goo over Adam Curry. 650 00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:38,220 They're just like bonkers over Adam. 651 00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:40,140 They'll be fanboying terribly. 652 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:42,340 It's going to be hilarious. 653 00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:43,460 But it's really cool. 654 00:26:43,460 --> 00:26:44,940 It's been good for me to get to know Michael. 655 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:46,660 I feel like there's a friendship there. 656 00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:48,620 And we go to Nashville a lot. 657 00:26:48,620 --> 00:26:49,940 And they live in Franklin. 658 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:53,620 So I'll get out that way and get coffee or lunch. 659 00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:54,620 Cool stuff. 660 00:26:54,620 --> 00:26:56,140 All this is all tied together. 661 00:26:56,140 --> 00:26:59,060 Adam, John Curry, now Michael and the band. 662 00:26:59,060 --> 00:27:00,700 And what a week. 663 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:01,700 It's all this week. 664 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:02,700 I mean, it's all happened. 665 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,620 So tonight's kind of the culmination of that. 666 00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:06,940 And then we fly out to Dallas first thing tomorrow. 667 00:27:06,940 --> 00:27:07,940 It's like, what? 668 00:27:07,940 --> 00:27:08,940 I know. 669 00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:09,940 It's going to be another busy week. 670 00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:11,420 We'll sleep next year. 671 00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:12,420 Right. 672 00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:13,980 We'll rest next year. 673 00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:16,420 But anyway, it's been a while. 674 00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:20,100 We want to talk a little bit because John brought something today. 675 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,180 He opened up a Pandora's box. 676 00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:27,820 When he was preaching, he told a story about him being molested when he was in the fifth 677 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:32,900 grade and that he hid it for years, decades. 678 00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:33,900 Decades. 679 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:34,900 Didn't tell his family. 680 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:35,900 Didn't tell his wife. 681 00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:42,500 He just said, he determined I'm going to forget this and move on with my life. 682 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:50,460 And yet anything that's hidden like that, he said hiding things is like a Petri dish 683 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:55,540 for sin because it just eats you up from the inside out. 684 00:27:55,540 --> 00:28:00,900 And when he told that story, you could have heard a rat, I think, in the other end of 685 00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:02,900 the building or a squirrel up on the roof. 686 00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:05,020 I heard an airplane from the airport. 687 00:28:05,020 --> 00:28:06,260 I heard birds chirping. 688 00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:08,420 I mean, outside. 689 00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:10,540 That's how quiet it got in there. 690 00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:13,080 Well, he was so good. 691 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,140 He told an amazing kind of fun story to kind of get your heart melted. 692 00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:22,660 And then he throws that on you and you're like, what? 693 00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:23,660 What just happened? 694 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:24,660 It's like dropping a bomb in a room. 695 00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:25,660 And you're like, oh my gosh. 696 00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:29,340 Of course, he's a genius in his storytelling. 697 00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:30,980 Master storyteller. 698 00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:35,940 So when he did that, he really cracked open the door about shame. 699 00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:42,180 And what he did is by exposing himself in terms of saying, this happened to me. 700 00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:45,000 It took me decades to finally tell. 701 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,980 And he said, and now I tell it everywhere I go. 702 00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:50,500 He said, I could never tell it. 703 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,660 Now I can't stop telling it. 704 00:28:52,660 --> 00:28:53,660 That was huge. 705 00:28:53,660 --> 00:28:56,500 Because what it does, it opens other people up. 706 00:28:56,500 --> 00:29:01,260 When someone says, hey, I've got trauma. 707 00:29:01,260 --> 00:29:02,660 And I've lived with it hidden. 708 00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:04,620 I'm ashamed. 709 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:07,780 What it does, the first person to do it, it's like tipping a domino. 710 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,220 We used to play dominoes. 711 00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:12,860 Play with our parents and dominoes and we'd set them up and tip them. 712 00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:15,620 Or it's like a dam breaking. 713 00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:18,140 That water starts to seep through and then the crack gets bigger. 714 00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:22,380 And then suddenly you've got a whole river coming down the valley. 715 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:23,480 And I saw that happen. 716 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:30,060 So I got up right after he finished his presentation, his message. 717 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:34,340 And I issued an invitation for people to come forward to if you have it and you're ready 718 00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:38,420 to, if you're ready to offload shame, this is your moment. 719 00:29:38,420 --> 00:29:40,940 And a lot of people came forward. 720 00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:41,940 It was remarkable. 721 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:44,860 This is what revivals come. 722 00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:48,900 I mean, literally revivals start out of something like that. 723 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:49,900 I was praying. 724 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:50,900 Man, I was praying. 725 00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:51,900 Confession and repentance. 726 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:58,020 Please, just open up the dam so that people can get their secrets out. 727 00:29:58,020 --> 00:29:59,300 Not that we need to know their secrets. 728 00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:00,300 Right. 729 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:01,300 We don't need to know the details. 730 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:02,300 No, we don't need to know details. 731 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:08,740 But where people don't have shame anymore and they can walk in forgiveness of themselves, 732 00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:13,860 a person that perpetrated them, and be able to walk upright again. 733 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:19,780 Because so many of us, and I know this, when he told the story, it reminded me of what 734 00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:22,940 happened to me as a teenager when I was 14. 735 00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:24,580 And I thought about you actually. 736 00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:25,580 I know. 737 00:30:25,580 --> 00:30:26,820 And I actually told John and Stacey. 738 00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:27,820 Oh, wow. 739 00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:31,140 And he said, how long did it take you before you could share it? 740 00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:33,180 I don't even know how long it took. 741 00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:35,220 It was after we were married. 742 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:36,220 Yeah. 743 00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:38,020 And, but I was raped. 744 00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:39,020 A couple of decades. 745 00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:40,020 Yes. 746 00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:42,460 By two boys, a week apart. 747 00:30:42,460 --> 00:30:43,460 Gosh. 748 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:47,300 They were friends and they set me up. 749 00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:48,420 And it was very hard. 750 00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:51,580 I lived with shame because you always blame yourself. 751 00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:54,780 You're at the wrong place at the wrong time. 752 00:30:54,780 --> 00:31:01,460 It caused an avalanche of challenges in my life from there on till I was in my 30s. 753 00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:02,460 It changed your life. 754 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:03,460 It did. 755 00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:04,460 It changed my life. 756 00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:05,460 For the worse. 757 00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:10,260 And it, I had a terrible self-esteem. 758 00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:16,420 Then you marry someone who is putting you up on this pedestal until you get married. 759 00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:17,420 And I'm not talking about you. 760 00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:19,260 I'm talking about my first husband. 761 00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:25,660 And then it goes downhill from there because then he starts in on the same rant with me. 762 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:30,340 And it just, I began to get lower and lower and lower until, I don't even know that I 763 00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:32,620 actually told him what happened. 764 00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:34,620 I may have, I don't even think I did. 765 00:31:34,620 --> 00:31:38,980 I remember when you told me and we talked about, we were talking about healing, getting 766 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,380 healed from the inside out. 767 00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:47,140 It's one thing to get your, get your broken arm mended and healed or surgery over something. 768 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:51,540 But how do you heal the human heart and the human spirit and the soul? 769 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:52,540 When you're 14. 770 00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:53,540 Yeah. 771 00:31:53,540 --> 00:31:54,540 Oh my goodness. 772 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:57,020 The damage that leaves in a person. 773 00:31:57,020 --> 00:32:02,020 And I know right now, as we're talking and Annette's opening up about this, I know there 774 00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:05,180 are people that are going to listen to this. 775 00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:08,740 You're listening right now and you're thinking, that is my story. 776 00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:16,060 It may not be the exact same trauma, but it's something that damaged you and it, it scarred 777 00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:20,780 your heart, it scarred your mind, it scarred your spirit. 778 00:32:20,780 --> 00:32:23,220 And those are the hardest things to heal. 779 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:25,020 It really is. 780 00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:32,500 And especially for women, when you've been perpetrated, it's very, I mean, we played 781 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:41,180 the blame game and we just, it's hard for us to overcome something like this and trust 782 00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:42,180 again. 783 00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:43,180 Yes. 784 00:32:43,180 --> 00:32:44,180 That's the biggest issue. 785 00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:45,260 I agree. 786 00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:47,700 John said that really resonated with me. 787 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:53,620 He talked about guilt and shame, that guilt can be something that you suffer from based 788 00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:58,620 on a behavior or a mistake you made where you feel guilty for that. 789 00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:00,100 Shame is different. 790 00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,740 Shame strikes to the very core of the person that you are. 791 00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:08,740 In other words, shame strikes into your character, into your soul. 792 00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:11,940 It's much deeper and much more difficult. 793 00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:14,280 Guilt, we can, we can throw off guilt. 794 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,220 We can work through guilt. 795 00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:19,940 Shame is a much deeper cut of the soul. 796 00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:27,500 And I remember you, at first you didn't want to really talk about it out loud, like in 797 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:28,820 front of people. 798 00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:31,240 We had been given some opportunities to speak. 799 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,860 You were invited to speak at a women's event and you showed up and I didn't go with you. 800 00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:37,860 You went with... 801 00:33:37,860 --> 00:33:40,740 No, I went with a lot of women from the church. 802 00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,460 And you spoke at this event and you told that story. 803 00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:48,740 And I remember you coming home and you told me, I didn't even cry, I'm healed. 804 00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:54,700 And one of the women, it was an older congregation, and one of the women came to me and she said, 805 00:33:54,700 --> 00:34:01,220 she said, honey, God has healed your emotions and that's why you're not crying. 806 00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:05,180 Because even as I was speaking, I said, I'm not crying anymore. 807 00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:06,700 I'm not crying anymore. 808 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:09,340 And she said, because God's healed you. 809 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:15,020 And you know what was funny is when I got asked to speak at this women's event, when 810 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:18,420 I walked in, I had it all planned out, what I was going to talk about. 811 00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:21,820 When I walked in, all these women were quite a bit older. 812 00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:24,620 They were all gray haired women. 813 00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:28,020 And here I was in my early to mid 40s. 814 00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:29,020 Probably, yeah. 815 00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:30,020 Mid 40s. 816 00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,020 Yeah, yeah, I'd say 40s. 817 00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:33,660 And I thought, these ladies aren't going to be able to relate to me. 818 00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:34,660 I'm not going to be able to relate to them. 819 00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:36,340 I'm like a kid compared to them. 820 00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:37,420 Oh my gosh. 821 00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:43,660 I had no idea a lot of those women had gone through similar situations. 822 00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:49,460 And I remember standing up after I spoke and I was at the door and they were all walking 823 00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:53,500 by me and they were grabbing my hand and just, thank you, I needed that. 824 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,340 Now I can tell my story. 825 00:34:55,340 --> 00:34:59,260 And then some, now I know I can be whole again. 826 00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:00,260 I can be healed. 827 00:35:00,260 --> 00:35:04,100 And I was just sitting there thinking, I mean, these women, I was thinking maybe they were 828 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:12,060 in their 60s or 70s and I thought, wow, wow, I'm not the only one. 829 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:15,100 I think you think for so long that you're the only one. 830 00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:16,100 And that's why shame does, right? 831 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,980 So you don't share it with anybody. 832 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:19,220 Shame drives you into hiding. 833 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:20,220 It does. 834 00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:23,220 So when you begin to hide, you also begin to pose. 835 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:24,220 Exactly. 836 00:35:24,220 --> 00:35:29,460 You begin to put on a persona that's really not yours because you're projecting and you're 837 00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:31,700 overcompensating. 838 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:36,140 And what happens in the midst of all that, you begin to lose your own identity and you 839 00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:40,020 don't even know who you are anymore or your identity never develops. 840 00:35:40,020 --> 00:35:46,500 You never become what we call getting comfortable in your own skin where you're just at a place 841 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,780 where, you know, I like who I am. 842 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:52,580 It's hard to like who you are when you've got hidden trauma that's never been dealt 843 00:35:52,580 --> 00:35:53,580 with. 844 00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:58,900 Well, and if you don't get any kind of therapy, yeah, any help because you've hidden it even 845 00:35:58,900 --> 00:35:59,900 from people that could... 846 00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:03,100 Spiritual counseling....guide you to counseling. 847 00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,580 You know, I mean, that was dangerous. 848 00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:05,860 That was a dangerous place. 849 00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:11,860 So you know, it took me years and years and years before I could get to the point to where 850 00:36:11,860 --> 00:36:14,820 I could share and then become healed. 851 00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:23,260 And later on, I went into, you know, was able to talk to therapists about it, but the shame 852 00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:24,540 just totally went away. 853 00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:27,380 Now it's just, this is what happened. 854 00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:28,740 And so now I've moved on. 855 00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:30,500 It's just part of what happened in my life. 856 00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:34,340 So part of what happened in terms of your healing is you got it out in the open. 857 00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:36,380 And this is something John mentioned. 858 00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:39,600 We've dealt with this for years with other people too. 859 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,740 When you get something out in the light, darkness can no longer be there because darkness isn't 860 00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:45,740 even real. 861 00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:49,180 All darkness is, is the absence of light at the end of the day. 862 00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:52,580 So darkness doesn't even have, there's no matter. 863 00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:54,660 There's nothing to it, no substance. 864 00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,060 It's a void. 865 00:36:56,060 --> 00:37:00,980 So when we go into hiding, we go into a vacuum and it just simply means that no light's been 866 00:37:00,980 --> 00:37:01,980 lit inside. 867 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:05,860 But when you, if you've ever been in a movie theater in the day and you go out, it's like, 868 00:37:05,860 --> 00:37:08,060 whoa, you know, so bright. 869 00:37:08,060 --> 00:37:15,300 But what happens is when you expose that trauma, that shame, all that goes, that condemnation, 870 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,140 guilt, all that stuff that goes along with that. 871 00:37:18,140 --> 00:37:23,620 When you get it into the light, light dissipates darkness. 872 00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:28,000 And it also dissipates that which has been hiding in darkness. 873 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,660 So you got it out in the open. 874 00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:31,100 You told me about it. 875 00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:35,940 You later began to share it in various meetings and opportunities in ministry or just one 876 00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:38,220 on one meetings with women. 877 00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:43,340 And it didn't take long before you realized, I'm not crying about this anymore. 878 00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:45,060 I don't feel the pain. 879 00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:47,060 The triggers gone. 880 00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:49,660 I can pull the trigger, but there's no bullet in the gun. 881 00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:51,100 I mean, there's just nothing there. 882 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100 Exactly. 883 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,980 And that's when you knew you were healed. 884 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:56,300 And I remember watching that process. 885 00:37:56,300 --> 00:38:01,060 And that's why I said, Lord, use me to help other people because I didn't want something 886 00:38:01,060 --> 00:38:06,200 to happen to me that was that atrocious and it not be used for good. 887 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,540 What a waste of it. 888 00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:09,240 Yes, it is a waste of pain. 889 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:15,260 And I said, open up my mouth, let me be able to tell my story, but not sort of trigger 890 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:19,360 other women, but that'll bring healing to other women. 891 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,360 That's beautiful. 892 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,180 And I'm going to read you a Bible verse I'd like to share just to help any of you out 893 00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:24,180 there. 894 00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:29,900 And Annette and I, just because we're pastors, don't ever think that we don't have to stay 895 00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:30,900 in the word of God. 896 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:37,700 We don't have to constantly feed ourselves life giving positive scripture because we're 897 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:40,060 subject to the same things anyone else is. 898 00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:42,100 Don't ever think we're not. 899 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:47,180 And so in Romans chapter eight, verse one has become a go to for me when I'm having 900 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:48,860 one of those days. 901 00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:54,540 Therefore, this is what it says, therefore there's now no condemnation for those who 902 00:38:54,540 --> 00:39:01,500 are in Christ Jesus because through Christ Jesus, the law of the spirit of life, boy 903 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:03,420 what a beautiful phrase. 904 00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,700 It's a spirit of life. 905 00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:10,980 The law of the spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. 906 00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:13,820 So what did it? 907 00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:18,020 It was Christ Jesus releasing to us the law of the spirit of life. 908 00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:24,740 In other words, Jesus is so life giving that when he comes into your life, there's an exchange 909 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:27,780 your old life for a new life. 910 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:30,780 And now you're operating under the law of the spirit of life in Christ. 911 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:31,780 Annette I'm a new creation. 912 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:32,780 John Yes you are. 913 00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:34,100 Annette I love that John talked about the old… 914 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,060 John I happen to like this new creation. 915 00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:37,060 Hubba hubba. 916 00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:38,700 Annette Oh my goodness. 917 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,400 He talked about the old creation versus new creation. 918 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,060 When we accept Christ, we literally have a new heart. 919 00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:47,060 We're new people. 920 00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:49,420 We're not even the same. 921 00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:56,500 If people could get a hold of us having this new creation that we don't have to live like 922 00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:01,940 we used to, we don't have to think like we used to, that we literally walk in newness 923 00:40:01,940 --> 00:40:03,900 of life with him. 924 00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:05,420 Oh my goodness. 925 00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:08,780 It brings freedom, freedom. 926 00:40:08,780 --> 00:40:12,180 And that is just my mantra. 927 00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:14,780 I mean I walk in the newness of life. 928 00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:17,340 That's what baptism is. 929 00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:25,100 When you baptize Adam and others, they laid down their old life and they were raised up 930 00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:29,700 in a new life with Christ. 931 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:30,700 It's huge. 932 00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:31,700 It's just such freedom. 933 00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,180 John It's not just life changing. 934 00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:35,180 It's life exchanging. 935 00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:41,620 Annette We do a song called Beautiful Exchange, which 936 00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:43,180 I brought to our worship team. 937 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:44,180 John I love that song. 938 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,180 Annette It is. 939 00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:46,620 It's a beautiful exchange. 940 00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:47,860 John It is. 941 00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:48,900 It's glorious. 942 00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,780 So I have written on my arm in ink. 943 00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:54,580 So Annette had an idea of us getting tattoos one time. 944 00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:56,580 Annette Oh, you're not supposed to tell that. 945 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:57,580 John What, we were 58? 946 00:40:57,580 --> 00:40:58,580 Something like that? 947 00:40:58,580 --> 00:40:59,580 Annette Oh, yeah. 948 00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:00,580 No. 949 00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:01,580 John Not last month. 950 00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:02,580 Annette Five years ago. 951 00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:03,580 John Last month. 952 00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:04,580 Annette Yeah, right. 953 00:41:04,580 --> 00:41:05,580 John So anyway, a while back. 954 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:06,580 Annette Oh, my goodness. 955 00:41:06,580 --> 00:41:07,580 John You've given away our age. 956 00:41:07,580 --> 00:41:08,580 Annette Okay, edit this real quick. 957 00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:09,580 John Yeah, right. 958 00:41:09,580 --> 00:41:10,580 No, I'm leaving it. 959 00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:16,540 Indeed, John 836, the whole scripture says, whom the Son has set free is free indeed. 960 00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:20,340 It's talking about being set free by the power of Christ. 961 00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:22,980 And I actually tattooed it so that I can see it. 962 00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:24,860 It isn't really for other people. 963 00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:28,980 It's fairly large, but it's on the inside of my forearm. 964 00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:32,980 And I want, I do, people do ask about it, which is pretty cool. 965 00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:38,620 But I love seeing that every day as a reminder that in Christ, I'm free, even if I don't 966 00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:42,220 think I am in the moment or feel like I am, I still am. 967 00:41:42,220 --> 00:41:44,140 And so I just want to encourage you with that. 968 00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:47,980 Now I have to have one other Bible verse and then we're going to land the plane. 969 00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:48,980 We're shooting our approach. 970 00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:50,980 Flaps are down, wheels are down, gears down. 971 00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:52,700 Annette You really are a preacher, aren't you? 972 00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:54,420 John I really am. 973 00:41:54,420 --> 00:41:55,420 What can I say? 974 00:41:55,420 --> 00:41:58,260 2 Corinthians 5, I'm not normal, but I'm sure. 975 00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:59,980 Annette Oh, wait, you didn't preach today. 976 00:41:59,980 --> 00:42:00,980 So that's why you're preaching. 977 00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:01,980 John Is that why I'm so wound up? 978 00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:02,980 Annette Yes, yes. 979 00:42:02,980 --> 00:42:03,980 You didn't get to preach. 980 00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:10,020 John 2 Corinthians 5, 17 says, therefore, by the way, it's one of the first Bible verses 981 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,180 I ever memorized was this one. 982 00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:14,620 Someone told me to memorize it and it's the best one. 983 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:19,100 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, they are a new creation. 984 00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:23,120 The old has gone, the new has come. 985 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,300 So it's an exchange. 986 00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:27,980 The old is gone, the new has come because you're a new creation in Christ. 987 00:42:27,980 --> 00:42:28,980 Isn't that beautiful? 988 00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:30,380 Annette It's very beautiful. 989 00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:31,380 John Wow. 990 00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:32,380 Mind-bending. 991 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:34,980 Listen, don't play the shame game. 992 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:38,960 There comes a point where you need to just offload that. 993 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,060 For most of us, it means finding someone that's trusted, someone that's safe. 994 00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:46,340 And listen, I know that's not easy to do. 995 00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:51,620 We've gone through seasons in our life and it's not the disany of our friends. 996 00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:55,420 There's a difference between acquaintances and people who just love to hang around and 997 00:42:55,420 --> 00:42:58,620 those that you can really go deep with. 998 00:42:58,620 --> 00:42:59,620 And those are jewels. 999 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:00,700 Those are gifts. 1000 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:05,580 Those are treasures when they come along in our lives, somebody that can be trusted. 1001 00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:12,300 And so for us in our life, we've had trusted friends and each other that we could share 1002 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:13,740 these things with. 1003 00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:21,460 And by getting them out into the light and out into the open, that shame loses its power 1004 00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:22,460 over your life. 1005 00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:23,460 Annette Exactly. 1006 00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:24,460 John Yeah. 1007 00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:25,460 I mean, that's been your experience. 1008 00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:26,460 You talked about it. 1009 00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:27,460 Annette Yes. 1010 00:43:27,460 --> 00:43:28,460 John It's been mine too, as a matter of fact. 1011 00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:30,900 I'm going to hear about that on another podcast. 1012 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:32,580 Hey, just a couple of things before we go. 1013 00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,020 I want to thank everyone. 1014 00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:39,460 I've been reading through your comments on Fountain in particular, which is a great, 1015 00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:41,020 great value for value platform. 1016 00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:45,060 I want to invite you to check out Fountain as a podcast platform. 1017 00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:48,900 But just so appreciate the comments that you've left. 1018 00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:51,960 I do want to read one if that's all right with you, babe. 1019 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,860 This one really blessed me. 1020 00:43:53,860 --> 00:44:00,060 And I'm just so thankful when people take the time to write in and say thanks kind of 1021 00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:01,060 thing. 1022 00:44:01,060 --> 00:44:03,100 So here it is. 1023 00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,100 And this is from... 1024 00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:10,180 Let's see, I'm going all the way down to the show, that last show. 1025 00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:17,540 So I'm sorry, we've got to find that episode. 1026 00:44:17,540 --> 00:44:20,740 Here we go. 1027 00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:24,540 This is from just this last week. 1028 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:25,540 Listen to this, Annette. 1029 00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:29,660 It's very short, but I just want to say thanks to RGBTC. 1030 00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:32,140 They gave us a thousand sats, which was nice for a boost. 1031 00:44:32,140 --> 00:44:33,620 But listen to this. 1032 00:44:33,620 --> 00:44:37,700 Thank you for helping me rediscover a relationship with Christ. 1033 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:39,300 God bless. 1034 00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:46,740 And RGBTC, we just want to say thank you for saying thank you and appreciate the sats. 1035 00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:51,620 But more than that, I appreciate you letting us know that our conversations here and our 1036 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:54,300 vulnerability here is helping you. 1037 00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:58,820 And so I prayed for you when I read your comment, by the way, because it was such an encouragement 1038 00:44:58,820 --> 00:44:59,820 to me. 1039 00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:04,780 And so I just want to say blessings to you. 1040 00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:05,780 That's why we do this. 1041 00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:06,780 It is. 1042 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:09,020 I don't want to do this just to have a show. 1043 00:45:09,020 --> 00:45:10,500 I want it to be meaningful. 1044 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:19,140 And I want people to feel life coming out of us and receive life that Jesus, only Jesus 1045 00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:20,140 can give. 1046 00:45:20,140 --> 00:45:21,140 Absolutely. 1047 00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:23,660 That's our heart for you living up in a down world. 1048 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:29,940 And we want you to get your buckets filled up with this life so that you can go out and 1049 00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:33,700 make beautiful messes every day all over the place. 1050 00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,140 Much love to you all. 1051 00:45:35,140 --> 00:45:36,580 There was more that we want to say. 1052 00:45:36,580 --> 00:45:37,580 We're full, aren't we? 1053 00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:38,580 Our buckets are full. 1054 00:45:38,580 --> 00:45:39,580 We have to catch a ride. 1055 00:45:39,580 --> 00:45:42,180 On the road to San Antonio to go see Mercy Me. 1056 00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:45,180 We're pretty quick, so I've got to finish producing this. 1057 00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,180 We love you. 1058 00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:47,180 Live up in a down world. 1059 00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:48,180 Have a great week. 1060 00:45:48,180 --> 00:46:10,180 Make beautiful messes everywhere you go.