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We're rolling. Would you please pray us in, brother?

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I would love to do that. And then I'll just,

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we'll do a roll in with this. Excellent. Excellent.

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Welcome today, brother. It's good to see you.

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It's good to see you. Long time no see. 24 hours,

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less than 24 hours. Pray us in. I'll tell you

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what's on my mind. Okay. Father, what a privilege

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it is to be before you and with my brother, Adam,

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that we get to sit together and talk about you,

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God, the world and other things, Lord, whatever

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it is you have. us to bring that would help someone.

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That's our heart here. Our heart is to honor

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you, to glorify you, to continue to advance the

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kingdom in our time, but also it's just to enjoy

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a conversation about life and about what you're

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doing and what we see you doing all around us.

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And Father, we put this in your hands. We give

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it to you. And for those who will listen to this

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and those that are listening even now, I ask

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for your grace to be poured out upon them, your

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life. hope, joy, all the fruit of the Spirit

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to be poured out upon them, even as they sit

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back and receive. And Father, you say what needs

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to be said in Jesus' name. And God's people said,

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that's what I always say as a pastor. Amen. Amen.

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This is Jimmy and not Annette because I've got

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a special guest star today. Oh my gosh, it's

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been so long since I've done a podcast. We were

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gone and I want to welcome Adam Curry. Adam,

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welcome to the show, brother. It's good to be

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here. It's good to be here. It's just fun to

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do life together, whether we're sitting on a

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mic or we're driving down the street or we're

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just whatever we're doing, cooking steaks, whatever

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it is, just doing life together. I reached out

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to you for three reasons. All right. Wow. Thought

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this through. One, there hasn't been an episode

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of living up in a down world during your vacation.

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So I miss seeing that update in the Godcaster.

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Two, I just wanted to talk with you because even

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though we see each other all the time, there's

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always other people around. We love our wives,

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but it's different when we're just sitting down,

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just yapping. We don't want to be rude. You know,

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we also want to keep an ear on what they're talking

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about. And, you know, it'd be four of us talking.

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So that was, I'm like, I just really need to

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talk to my brother, Pastor Jimmy, about a couple

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things. And two, God told me. Wow. And I heard

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it loudly. Wow. And this was, did I text you

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on Monday or Sunday? I think it was Monday. Yeah.

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And I just heard, like, do a podcast with Jimmy.

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Do a podcast with Jimmy. Oh, that's right. And

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we weren't even sure if we could get together

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this week because you had things going. I've

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got things going. And then, and I was like, okay,

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well, maybe we'll do it next week. And then.

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God moved in very interesting ways. I'll share

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it because I thought about it this morning. It's

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sad. So I had a hair appointment today in Austin.

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And boy, do I need it because, you know, I'm

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looking. I got a mullet going on here because

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of my vacation. I don't get my hair cut on vacation.

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I'm now six feet seven tall with my hair piled

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up on top of my head. And usually I have to set

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these things far in advance because a very good

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friend of mine, Johanna, she does my hair. I've

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been going to her for almost 16 years. It's more

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than just my hair. She's a friend. We talk. She's

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in. Very liberal Austin. Her clients are very

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liberal. She is right down the middle. She's

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not a believer yet, working on her, but she appreciates

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prayer, and she always thanks me when I pray

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for her, for family. And she gives me real insight

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into what's happening in other cultures, other

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parts of our culture. Her puppy, her dog, 14

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years old, passed away. Oh, no, that's heartbreaking.

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Yes. Now, and she called me, and, you know, she

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called me because we're friends, you know, and

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so I... I tried to minister to her, and I think

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I comforted her. But at the same time, that was

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the reason why we can sit here together. So this

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puppy was old, you know, had some heart issues.

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But it took place and opened up this opportunity

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for us. So I don't know if, you know, it's like

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one of those hard things. Yeah. We love our fur

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babies, my goodness. And does God do these things?

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You know, this dog could have passed away in

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a week from now, but does God do these things?

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You know, I don't know. I don't know. He does

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all things for good, ultimately. There we go.

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And she was there when he passed, you know, and

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so that worked out perfectly. I just had to get

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off my heart because I kept hearing it like,

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well, this is how this opened up. And I was surprised.

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I'm like, wait a minute. I have a whole day open

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now. Because, you know, you go to Austin, it's

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a whole day trip. And so here I am. Wow. Well,

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we should cheers. Yes, we are. At what time in

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the morning? Cheersing with our Black Rifle coffee.

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I know. Exactly. I was going to ask what you

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have in your tumbler. I've got a White Rose Resistance

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tumbler, which we got at our event. I have my

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Joe Rogan tumbler. Nice. Yes. Which I carry everywhere.

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And so, yeah, I've got Black Rifle, just black.

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So, man, I'm in a good place right now. So we

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were in Florida. And a lot of things happened

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to me there. Maybe you should just explain what

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this was. You want to just run down why we were

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there? Yeah, I'll give the brief version of what

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it is. There's an organization. Actually, it's

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a group of organizations. But Remnant Alliance

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is a group of pastors and a group of organizations

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like the Patriot Academy, Citizens Defending

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Freedom. It's a whole group of seminary, college,

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university. Not Waverly. We're not good at memory,

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are we? Oh, my gosh. I keep saying Waverly. It's

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Wagner, isn't it? I think it's Wagner. Wagner

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University. So a bunch of groups that get together

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and do things here and there finally said, wait,

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maybe we should get together and actually form

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an association or a network so that we can get

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together often. help each other and encourage

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each other. And so anyway, this was the first,

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I would call it the embryonic meeting, just the

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first. And the meeting was about 35 to 40 people.

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And they asked us to invite either a business

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couple or a leader couple from the church. And

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Annette and I were like, oh, Adam and Tina need

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to be here. Little did we know that would morph

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into the Godcaster. We'll talk more about that

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in a minute. So you're in this meeting. Tina's

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in the meeting. We're together. And Jack Hillegoss,

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he's a pastor at High Point Church in Lake Wales,

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Florida, who also ran for mayor several years

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ago, like a term and a half ago, and won. And

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because he had a wake -up call during COVID and

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said, I got to do something, the Lord told him

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through various people, you should run for mayor.

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He did, and he won. And now he's running again.

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They're starting their campaign. So he called

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a group of about five or six pastors. and said,

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would you bring some people from your church

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that you think would be interested in this? And

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let's just have a meeting to see if it's God's

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heart for us to form, become a formal association

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or a formal network based on values, not so much

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on theology. A lot of networks are based on theology,

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and those are called denominations. So we're

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not trying to create a denomination system. Which

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is probably unique amongst churches. I think

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so, because we're saying this isn't all about

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your theology. We've got some criteria that are

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important, and we need to agree on the basics,

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right, the main things. But we're trying to create

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a broader affiliation here, a broader association,

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where we come together based on these three things

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and what's called the seven mountain strategy,

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which is a fancy word for here's what culture

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looks like, and we're identifying these seven

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areas. But really, you can boil it down to three,

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and it's faith, family, and freedom. And it's

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not political. It's about cultural engagement.

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And so politics is only one of many spokes. So

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we all came together, met for basically two days,

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two half days, one full day. And we heard from

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different organizations. We heard people sharing

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different ideas. You and I got to do a presentation

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about the Godcaster and really that mountain

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of media, arts, entertainment. And we came away

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from that. Jack was asking the question, do you

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think we should take another step? Do we feel

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like God's in this? And it was obvious. God was

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all over it. The whole thing was such a God movement

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because it started with Steve Maxwell. It was

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very unorganized. In my mind, Steve Maxwell's

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like, hey, can you guys come? And then all of

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a sudden, Pastor Jack Hillegoss is sending out

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agendas. And there was, you know, and bless Day

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Minette, because she had already just said, I'm

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just going to get hotel rooms and we're all set.

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And so we were kind of even autonomous in that

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regard. And it just like, it was like a Woodstock,

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a mini Woodstock. Just we all came in from wherever

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we didn't really know, like, yeah, it's going

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to be something cool, man. Something good is

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happening. Just don't eat the brown acid. It's

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going to be great. And it was, I mean, there

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were heavy hitters there besides yourself, Dr.

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Rick Scarborough, who is, I mean. He actually

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formulated the Remnant Alliance in the first

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place, which has reached thousands of pastors

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across the United States about cultural engagement.

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And then Pastor Paul Blair. who by himself is

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an enigma and an incredible story, having been

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a Chicago Bears lineman, I think. Yeah, football

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player in the NFL. And then called into ministry

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and just a fascinating guy. You look at him like,

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I just want to hang out with this guy. He looks

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fun to talk to. He's a mountain of a man. He

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is. He is. And he is Liberty Pastors because

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this also fits into this. He's a pastor. Yeah.

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Two campuses, Orlando, Edmond, Oklahoma. But

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he started Liberty Pastors to try to begin to

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rally pastors around this idea of how do we intelligently

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engage our culture and become a voice in the

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public square. And you and Pastor Brian and Naomi

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and Annette, you all went to one of those. Is

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it like a course? Is it like a three -day thing?

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It's like a three -day, yeah. Similar layout

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to what we just did. You go a half day, then

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a full day, then another half day. And it's drinking

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from a fire hose from guys like Rick Green from

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the Patriot Academy and others. I mean, just

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David Barton was there. I mean, it's just. And

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it's very similar along the same lines of culture.

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And I think. Yes. So for me, all of this came

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together within there. I'm like, oh, now I see

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why we're here. We have Remnant Alliance, all

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these organizations who have something to offer,

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something to help with all of these mountains

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and these seven mountains and culture and politics

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and just everything, life. And then you have

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the churches, the embassy churches, as they'll

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be called, that are affiliated with it. And so

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there's already a list of like 10 or 12 or maybe

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even more, I'm not sure. And it all came together

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for me during this meeting. I'm like, oh, okay,

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something happened in 2020, and that was COVID.

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And when we all started to come out of that,

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where the world itself is living in complete

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trauma. complete trauma from COVID. People may

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not admit it, but that's why they're all getting

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spun up over all kinds of things. You look at

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the news, you're on fire. They're mad. They don't

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know why they're mad, but it's because, well,

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they're mad at their government. They're mad

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at what was done to them. There's all kinds of

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things that were forced on people. And this,

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of course, is a worldwide phenomenon. And it

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feels like this group of pastors and affiliated

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organizations Without us even knowing it, I think

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we're saying now is the time. We got our wits

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together. We figured out, wait a minute, something

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really bad happened here. We got snookered. I'll

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just use a friendly word. We got snookered. And

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not only is it time to change that, but this

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is a tremendous opportunity to spread the gospel,

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show people what's good and evil. help them understand

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why they're feeling the way they're feeling,

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and to change all these mountains, to recapture

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mountains, or at least to influence them, to

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move them as possible. And that hit me so hard

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because I'm up there. You know, I was asked to

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come in and talk about the Godcaster. And honestly,

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up until now, the Godcaster is, well, this is

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for radio stations to move to digital and to

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bring in, you know, your local content. That

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was basically the pitch. Um, and the other side

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was for, for churches and ministries, you know,

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now you can broadcast outside of the walls of

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the sanctuary, but it didn't go much further

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than that. And so, and when, when I'm sitting

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here, I'm like, oh, I see what's happening here.

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And you and I, by the way, I think I said it

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on stage. Have you ever had that where you, well,

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I'm sure you have because of your professional

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speaker, where you're, you're speaking or you're

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preaching and things are coming out of your mouth

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that you hadn't thought about, you hadn't prepared,

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but you're actually Your mind and your opinion

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is being formed as you speak. Yes. I had this.

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And, you know, because all I know how to do is

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just tell my story or tell a story. I can tell

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stories all day long. And so I kind of knew what

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would get this group engaged. I knew how I could

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get them, you know, just to pay attention and

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laugh. And boy, God bless Pastor Paul. Every

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single time I said something, he was cracking

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up and laughing. There's always one. Well, there

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was two, and Pastor Jack was on the left. So

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I would lock eyes with them. You know how you're

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always looking at one person? And there's Pastor

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Paul. He's like, ah, this is great. And Pastor

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Jack's like, yeah. So it just felt so good. I

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think I said that you and I, I think it was about

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us, that when we met, it was like a Reese's peanut

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butter cup. Yes. You know, it's chocolate and

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peanut butter came together, and we just felt

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like, wow, this is. There's something really

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good here, which is another reason why I just

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wanted to sit down and chat with you, because

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we don't get the opportunity to do this from

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my perspective, from your perspective about what's

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really going on. Right. True. And so things started

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to come together in my mind, whereas I'm seeing,

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hey, this group of guys, they figured out how.

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Easy it is actually without money to change the

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political landscape in your local community.

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That's how Pastor Jack became mayor. That was

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the main one that stuck with me. There's a number

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of different categories and different mountains.

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And as I'm talking, I'm like, wow, this is something

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much bigger. They all understand that in order

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to... affect your local culture. All politics

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is local. Your local culture, you need to be

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broadcasting into it. And you can't just do that,

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you know, on Sunday and two, or in Pastor Jack's

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case, four, you know, four sermons. You have

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to push it out. And at the same time, out of

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my mouth are coming the words how no agenda runs

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where, you know, we really... Value for value

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is not just people donating money to us, but

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they're contributing their expertise. And I'm

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like, and it hit me like, ah, every church has

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that person who goes to the sports games. Every

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church has that person who goes to every single

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city council meeting, every single school board

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meeting. The person who is in the Chamber of

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Commerce and can tell us what's going on there.

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Good, bad, indifferent. And then after that,

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I'm sitting down with Pastor Jack's team. He

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had assembled a team to create their version

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of how the Godcaster would be used. And I think

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it's very simple. It's just a digital station.

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It broadcasts on -demand and live content. We

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know that churches during COVID became content

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factories. Everybody's got that. I mean, I love

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walking in here. By the way, I love being in

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the church. I love our church. It feels like

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home. It feels like our clubhouse also. I mean,

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house of God, but also our clubhouse. Yeah. You

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know, I walk in and there's faith and I had a

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nice chat with the dudes installing the new gear

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and we're upgrading our gears. He's a rock star

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in that world, by the way. Crazy stuff. He did

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Elevation Church. Oh, really? That guy's amazing.

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Yeah, I had a nice chat with him. Great guy.

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Yeah, we talked about old radio gear. Nice. We

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still had knobs instead of faders. Robert's amazing.

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And then... It all came together. The whole loop

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came together, that it's a two -way street. It's

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not just, you know, as I was saying, Mayor Pastor

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Jack, your station can't be Mayor Pastor Jack

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with, Mayor Pastor Jack with. That's not it.

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You need to have incoming, and every single person

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in your congregation, in our city as well, has

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a high -quality recording device in their pocket.

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I mean, mainstream media uses these all the time

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to do interviews, press. You see them all the

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way holding their phone up because it works.

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So all you need is one person to manage the incoming

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and every single one of those becomes a podcast.

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It's irrelevant. This is another thing that happened.

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Do you mind if I just keep rambling? No, no.

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Keep going. So Dr. Rick Scarborough, he asked

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a question. He said how and he's kind of a funny

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guy. You know, he's like. He almost looks like

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your Bible teacher in school, you know, kind

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of a little hunched over. Bible professor. How

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long should a podcast be? And I flippantly said,

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until it's boring. And I felt bad about that

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because, you know, he actually got up and walked

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out. And I'm like, did I offend him by saying

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that? And I cornered him. Well, actually, he

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cornered me. And he said, I'm going to show you

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what I'm doing here. And he has this one minute,

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my take. And every week he does a one minute,

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my take, it airs on the bot radio networks. I

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mean, it's on hundreds of radio stations. I would

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love to have that on our Godcaster. And I said,

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this is a podcast. He said, is it? I said, yes,

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because it's perfect. And, and, but instead of

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uploading them to the web, you know, for every

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month at the end of the month, do them every

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single week and actually turn that into an automatic

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podcast feed forum. It's just, it's so good.

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And it's just this one minute take. But it's

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super, super good, and that is a podcast. A podcast

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is really the delivery mechanism. It's just a

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technology piece that is all over the Internet.

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No one really sees it. You don't see it, but

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it's how the Internet connects together in so

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many ways that software engineers use that all

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the time. So the Godcaster is based on this technology.

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So as you rightly point out, now that that's

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a podcast, we can add that to the Bridge Church

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Godcaster. It'll update every week whenever he

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updates it. It'll run during Hello Fred in the

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regular lineup in between the music. But because

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it's in the Godcaster ecosystem, any other Godcaster

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can add this just by typing in Dr. Rick Scarborough,

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my take, pops up, they add it in. Now we have

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a syndicated network. Beautiful. And it may be

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fun. Just to, you know, there may be other stuff

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that they're doing that would be relevant here.

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And so it all started to come together. I got

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so excited about this. I think I even said it.

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Tina said to me, Adam, we've been together for

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over 10 years. I've never seen you this excited

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and joyous about anything. And I'm a pretty happy

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guy. You are. I'm always pretty up and happy.

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You're living up in a down world, brother. Exactly.

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And so I just see all this opportunity. I'm like,

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man, we got to. Get on the stick in our own church.

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There's so much we need to do. You know, God

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has just been, you know, I think I had a scripture

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yesterday that popped up for me. Yeah, and then

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after that, tell about meeting with Jonah yesterday,

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Jonah Mandel. That's another part of this. That's

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exactly what I wanted to say. But yesterday I

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saw Galatians 6, 9, and let us not grow weary

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of doing good, for in due season we will reap

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if we do not give up. Yeah. I'm like, okay, God,

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yeah, you got me working hard. I get it. But

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I can run a calendar. I've done it before. You

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know, I've had a pretty easy 15, 16 years doing

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no agenda. And, you know, I was like, oh, boy,

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you know, oh, I got to get up at 7. So this is

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really not too much of an issue. And as if, no,

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not as if, in his perfect timing, he, I ask.

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Jonah Mandel, Pastor Brian's eldest son. He's

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14, just going into high school. I asked him

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a couple of weeks ago, I said, would you be interested

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in doing a podcast? He said, yeah, I would. I'm

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like, okay. And I met with him yesterday and

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oh man, he's got ideas. He's not afraid. And

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he's like, yeah, but I want to do a podcast and

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came up with a name, Young and Faithful. Love

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it. Which I think is a great name because it

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has... For older people, it kind of harkens back

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to Young and the Restless. So it has like a familiarity

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to it without it being that at all. So young

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and faithful. And, you know, he has all those

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topics and I'm going to set them up and, you

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know, co -produce with him. But the idea is to

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teach him how to do it himself. And that's the

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thing we need more and more of. When I was with

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Glenn Beck a couple weeks back. And I'm telling

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him about, you know, the problem is we're all

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here in our 50s and 60s. And where's the young

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people? They're on TikTok. They're on Instagram.

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They're doing reels. They're doing nonsense.

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They're throwing it away to Silicon Valley. And

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it's just, they create it and it's gone. And

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all they're getting is some light dopamine hits.

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And it's not, or heavy, it's not really effective.

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It's not doing anything for the kingdom. And,

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you know, we need this younger generation. to

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come in and start doing what we do. And it turns

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out Glenn Beck is starting his own program called

00:22:04.089 --> 00:22:07.410
The Torch, as in passing the torch. Nice. I'm

00:22:07.410 --> 00:22:09.190
not quite sure. You know, he wants to talk to

00:22:09.190 --> 00:22:10.690
me about it. He said, you know, we got to, you

00:22:10.690 --> 00:22:13.289
know, Glenn Beck, a very busy guy, but, you know,

00:22:13.289 --> 00:22:15.049
we'll connect at some point. He already has a

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CEO, Ford and everything. So he's got quite the

00:22:17.990 --> 00:22:22.549
operation. Yeah. So it just all started to come

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together. And I'm like, and then as a part of

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that, Pastor Jimmy, I'm always going to say Pastor

00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:30.960
Jimmy on the air because I need to put that respect

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on your name. Thank you, brother. We need to

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be doing something, you and I. Yeah, I agree.

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And somehow I felt this would be the start of

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something. This is what God's moving me to do

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because that Reese's peanut butter cup, you know,

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that's the thing that I feel we can help people

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with. And when I say people, I'm talking about

00:22:51.299 --> 00:22:56.140
our people right here in Bridge Church. And it's

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not something I can do on my own with my own

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program, no agenda, which is a whole different

00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.400
area. But it's also not something you can do

00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:07.759
from the pulpit. You know, it's like a coming

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together. And so if you don't mind me just switching

00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:16.779
into a topic here, the floods that we witnessed

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here is very polarizing to people. How can God

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do this? Why did God let this happen? And what

00:23:27.819 --> 00:23:30.440
immediately, this is my world, what I see is

00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:34.059
people going into their timeline and, oh, it

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was, you know, this company was over cloud seeding.

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Not true. It was 5G towers manipulating the weather.

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Not true. And by the way, I say not true because

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I've been down these rabbit holes for the past

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two decades and I know it is and isn't true.

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And yeah, there's stuff happening, but this is

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not it. And so even for myself, it's like, how

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can we help people through this time of understanding

00:24:00.329 --> 00:24:03.589
that? I don't think it's even possible for you

00:24:03.589 --> 00:24:07.490
or I individually to talk about this in our own

00:24:07.490 --> 00:24:11.869
sections, in our own places, and get the message

00:24:11.869 --> 00:24:16.410
across. And so I'm asking you really as a new

00:24:16.410 --> 00:24:21.809
believer. Why does God let that happen? I mean,

00:24:21.829 --> 00:24:23.609
that may not be the right question, but I think

00:24:23.609 --> 00:24:25.710
that's the question people are asking. That is

00:24:25.710 --> 00:24:28.049
a question people are asking. The thing about

00:24:28.049 --> 00:24:30.890
it is we tend to, when things are going good,

00:24:30.950 --> 00:24:33.450
we give God the glory. And then when they're

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going bad, we immediately throw him under the

00:24:35.789 --> 00:24:37.690
bus and back over him a couple of times. You

00:24:37.690 --> 00:24:40.109
know, it's like, you know, it's always one way

00:24:40.109 --> 00:24:43.170
or the other. But what people tend to not think

00:24:43.170 --> 00:24:45.250
about, and this is like getting up to the 30

00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:48.220
,000 foot level and looking back down. God set

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this world into motion. He created it, right?

00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:52.319
The Holy Spirit hovered over the waters. Genesis

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1, He created man, Adam. Then He created Eve,

00:24:56.500 --> 00:24:59.519
woman, from Adam and all that. So we know that.

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But then a... It was kind of like, Adam, you

00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:07.269
had one job. Don't eat that. Name these animals,

00:25:07.430 --> 00:25:10.410
and we're going to fellowship in Eden. We're

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going to create an amazing world here. One job,

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one thing. And when that one thing went away

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through the sin, the rebellion, and them enacting

00:25:20.390 --> 00:25:22.910
their own will over God's will, what happened

00:25:22.910 --> 00:25:27.529
was the world went into a fallen state. And the

00:25:27.529 --> 00:25:30.089
thing about it, the world will not be redeemed

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until the end of time. And so now we— That's

00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:35.579
a hard concept to grasp. It is a hard concept.

00:25:35.579 --> 00:25:37.559
That's hard to grasp, man. But they were the

00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:39.839
only ones. They were the first ones. They had

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one job, and that was to walk in fellowship with

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God and with one another. And when they failed

00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.940
in that one job—now, God made a way to redeem

00:25:47.940 --> 00:25:53.339
all of that, but it was plan B, not plan A. And

00:25:53.339 --> 00:25:57.099
so we live in a fallen world. People run stop

00:25:57.099 --> 00:26:02.099
signs. People drive drunk. guns don't kill, people

00:26:02.099 --> 00:26:04.599
kill, they pull triggers. I mean, the list goes,

00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.980
it's ad infinitum at that point. But for whatever

00:26:08.980 --> 00:26:12.380
reason, young in my faith, I was able to reconcile

00:26:12.380 --> 00:26:15.440
that quickly. Part of it came when my mother

00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.640
passed away while I was in college. She was only

00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.740
45 years old. And I was a student in school,

00:26:21.900 --> 00:26:24.359
a ministerial student. I was training for the

00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:28.789
ministry, theology. And my own family was coming

00:26:28.789 --> 00:26:32.250
to me. I'm still a young Christian saying, how

00:26:32.250 --> 00:26:34.789
could God let this happen? Right, exactly, exactly.

00:26:34.849 --> 00:26:37.289
And you know what I had to say to one of my uncles?

00:26:37.390 --> 00:26:39.789
It was hard to say it, but my mother had been

00:26:39.789 --> 00:26:42.450
a smoker her entire life since she was 12 years

00:26:42.450 --> 00:26:45.410
old. That was that generation, right? And she

00:26:45.410 --> 00:26:48.369
also drank tea nonstop all day long, never worked

00:26:48.369 --> 00:26:50.950
out a day in her life. She was sedentary. She

00:26:50.950 --> 00:26:53.769
wasn't overweight. She was unhealthy. And her

00:26:53.769 --> 00:26:58.259
body crashed. Because not taking care of it,

00:26:58.299 --> 00:27:01.180
not stewarding it well, is that a character issue?

00:27:01.339 --> 00:27:03.539
It's not a character issue. It's probably an

00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:06.039
ignorance issue, not knowing what we know now

00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.099
about the human body. And I had to look at my

00:27:08.099 --> 00:27:11.559
uncles and say, in a sense, she did this to herself.

00:27:11.859 --> 00:27:15.119
She did not take care of herself. I grew up with

00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:19.000
her, and I know how unhealthy she was. And how

00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.819
many times I racked my brain of ways to try to

00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:24.259
get her to quit smoking. You know, when we first

00:27:24.259 --> 00:27:27.039
finally got, you know, windows that rolled down

00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.619
in her first big Lincoln Continental. Electric

00:27:29.619 --> 00:27:32.180
windows. I would roll her windows down, you know,

00:27:32.220 --> 00:27:34.940
like, you're making me breathe your smoke. But

00:27:34.940 --> 00:27:37.119
anyway, all that, it's a funny way to say it.

00:27:37.140 --> 00:27:39.519
But at the end of the day, I understood very

00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:43.700
quickly, God didn't do this. God gave her every.

00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.319
For love, he gave her choice, the power of choice.

00:27:47.579 --> 00:27:50.440
So then when we go back to the floods, force

00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.940
majeure, there's even a technical legal term

00:27:52.940 --> 00:27:57.839
for it, act of God. There you go. That's a confusing

00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.240
thing in this world. We say act of God, and it's

00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.700
a legal term. Here's the thing. The world is

00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:07.000
groaning, according to Romans 8. It says that

00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.539
the world is literally groaning. You look at

00:28:09.539 --> 00:28:12.480
the... The floods, you look at tornadoes that

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.319
have been happening. Earthquakes. Yeah. Wars

00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.480
and rumors of wars. All of that's happening.

00:28:17.539 --> 00:28:20.180
Matthew 26. As we continue to move towards the

00:28:20.180 --> 00:28:22.460
last of the last days. Whatever that is, it could

00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:25.079
be another thousand years. It could be ten. It

00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:26.839
could be tomorrow. It could be tomorrow. But

00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.200
we know the earth. It feels like the earth is

00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.880
groaning. That's not an act of God. That's just

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.900
the Lord said, this is how things are going to

00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:38.180
go. He didn't create. He doesn't create calamity.

00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:40.900
He doesn't create chaos. If anything, he creates

00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:45.119
order out of chaos. And so it's so easy to just

00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.200
blame God. Why? And we all want, that's the golden

00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.740
question. Three -letter word with a question

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:55.440
mark. Why? Why? Why? And I came early on in my

00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.720
faith after my mom passed and all my family's

00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.259
coming to me going, how could God do that to

00:29:00.259 --> 00:29:02.640
her? And she was the best one out of us all.

00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.650
And I'm like, God did not do that to her. She

00:29:05.650 --> 00:29:09.210
did that to her. She made choices. The reason

00:29:09.210 --> 00:29:11.410
why somebody runs a stop sign, other than it

00:29:11.410 --> 00:29:14.309
being a health event, which, by the way, in Naples,

00:29:14.329 --> 00:29:16.569
we saw a man have a health event and run off

00:29:16.569 --> 00:29:18.769
the road and do offense. Oh, really? We didn't

00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:20.430
tell you all that. No, you didn't. We're standing

00:29:20.430 --> 00:29:22.990
at a stoplight, and we see this guy rolling slow

00:29:22.990 --> 00:29:26.589
in an old pickup, and he's looking out the window.

00:29:26.609 --> 00:29:29.230
His face is contorted, and he's having a seizure.

00:29:29.329 --> 00:29:32.150
Oh, no. And we saw, I mean, and I'm sitting there.

00:29:32.210 --> 00:29:33.750
I said, Annette, that man's having a seizure.

00:29:33.829 --> 00:29:36.279
He's having a health event. And fortunately,

00:29:36.380 --> 00:29:39.640
there was a police officer who saw him and he

00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:41.359
pulled in behind. So we didn't have to stop,

00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:43.319
but we just immediately prayed for this poor

00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:47.240
man. But things happen. So other than that, we

00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.539
make choices. And sadly, our choices ripple effect

00:29:51.539 --> 00:29:54.359
into other people's lives, good and bad. We make

00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.799
good choices. It's a blessing to everybody else.

00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.720
We make bad choices. It's a ripple effect into

00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.319
other people's lives. God didn't do that. He

00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.559
gave us because of love. He gave us the power

00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:08.960
of will, free will, choice. Which is the, this

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:13.079
is what I've learned. You cannot, of all the

00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.839
things that we have similar to animals and the

00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:19.000
world around us, the one thing that is different

00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:24.019
is the ability to love. And you cannot, you know,

00:30:24.019 --> 00:30:27.799
Nazis in the prison camp couldn't force the prisoners

00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:31.410
to love them. Even though they could force them

00:30:31.410 --> 00:30:34.109
to do horrible things, you cannot force someone

00:30:34.109 --> 00:30:36.190
to love you. And the way I see it, the way I'm

00:30:36.190 --> 00:30:41.630
interpreting in my early walk here is that's

00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:45.269
actually the hack that God put in. It's like,

00:30:45.410 --> 00:30:48.329
you got to love me of your own free will. The

00:30:48.329 --> 00:30:51.710
way I've made you, no one can force you to love

00:30:51.710 --> 00:30:55.509
me, love someone else. So that's up to you. It's

00:30:55.509 --> 00:30:58.289
the one uncontrollable variable in another person's

00:30:58.289 --> 00:31:02.279
life. I cannot override that. We can overpower

00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.720
things and get a behavior, get people to do something,

00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.240
but it's not out of love. It's just out of fear,

00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:13.339
obligation, whatever. And so it goes right back

00:31:13.339 --> 00:31:16.720
to, you know, you have to look at a scenario

00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.759
like this. You know, why was there an 8 .7 earthquake

00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.039
in Russia of all places? Why is New York? having

00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.839
rumblings and seismic activity. There's a lot

00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.240
of things. I do need to add one little thing

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:32.759
about earthquakes because about 12 years ago,

00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:37.619
for I think marketing reasons, they changed the

00:31:37.619 --> 00:31:40.880
number scale from Richter scale to something

00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.319
called the momentum scale. So an 8 .7, which

00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.099
just gets great headlines, really is more like

00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:51.259
a two and a half on the old Richter scale. So

00:31:51.259 --> 00:31:54.390
this is... It's actually evil that this was done.

00:31:54.529 --> 00:31:59.930
And nobody ever defines that. It's not definable.

00:31:59.970 --> 00:32:02.690
It's just like, Daymonette and I are always laughing

00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:06.210
about that. She says, it's 106. I said, Daymonette,

00:32:06.329 --> 00:32:08.950
is that the temperature or feels like? No, it's

00:32:08.950 --> 00:32:11.970
the feels like temperature. Okay. This is a marketing

00:32:11.970 --> 00:32:14.569
thing, and it's done for different reasons. I

00:32:14.569 --> 00:32:18.720
think maybe for climate change agendas. It's

00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:21.339
a marketing for news, you know, like, hey, 8

00:32:21.339 --> 00:32:25.180
.7, this is insane, this is crazy. Of course,

00:32:25.259 --> 00:32:29.240
even a three on a Richter scale is a big deal.

00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.980
Right. So it was up there, but, you know, you

00:32:32.980 --> 00:32:35.400
can't equate it to what happened in San Francisco

00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.940
in 1991. We were still on the Richter scale.

00:32:38.420 --> 00:32:41.480
We were still on the Richter scale then. I'm

00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.299
sorry for the interruption. No, no, that's spot

00:32:43.299 --> 00:32:46.059
on. But back to where we were going, but that

00:32:46.059 --> 00:32:49.009
is a good point. The earth feels like it's groaning,

00:32:49.049 --> 00:32:51.990
right? Things are happening. Events happen. Sometimes

00:32:51.990 --> 00:32:56.269
things just happen. And when people say things

00:32:56.269 --> 00:32:59.690
like, you know, well, you know, that was meant

00:32:59.690 --> 00:33:01.730
to happen or that was meant. I'm going, I don't

00:33:01.730 --> 00:33:05.069
think so always. I don't think something's meant

00:33:05.069 --> 00:33:07.210
to happen just because it happens. I think people

00:33:07.210 --> 00:33:10.170
make choices when it comes in the purview of

00:33:10.170 --> 00:33:13.210
our control. We make choices. People make choices

00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:15.130
where they build homes. People make choices.

00:33:15.250 --> 00:33:17.960
Oh, yeah. I don't want to. Victim blame, but

00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.119
these are choices. But it is true. I mean, if

00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.339
I grew up in Lubbock, Texas, which was Tornado

00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:27.980
Alley back in the 60s and 70s, it's kind of moved

00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:30.539
more towards Oklahoma up north a little bit and

00:33:30.539 --> 00:33:33.160
west towards Dallas -Fort Worth area. I mean,

00:33:33.180 --> 00:33:36.740
it's moved. But I grew up there, and I had a

00:33:36.740 --> 00:33:39.359
choice. I could stay there and live now. When

00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.640
I was a kid, I didn't because we saw the May

00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.039
11, 1970 tornado to kill 27 people in Lubbock.

00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.980
F5 came through Lubbock. And so I made a judgment

00:33:48.980 --> 00:33:51.140
pretty early on. I don't like tornadoes and I

00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:52.740
don't really want to live where there are a bunch

00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:55.119
of tornadoes, you know? I mean, so as a young

00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.059
adult, I went to tech one semester, then I moved

00:33:58.059 --> 00:34:00.940
to central Texas, you know? Yeah. Well, what

00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:03.299
does central Texans have that they've got? Well,

00:34:03.380 --> 00:34:06.099
we are the flood, the floodplain of the United

00:34:06.099 --> 00:34:09.300
States. Yes. We have, we have, we have a severe

00:34:09.300 --> 00:34:12.159
drought and heat wave and yeah, there's. I choose

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.820
to live here. Yeah. I also choose to live aware.

00:34:15.449 --> 00:34:20.210
I choose to assess my area, live aware, and then

00:34:20.210 --> 00:34:24.329
you have decisions to make regarding that. I

00:34:24.329 --> 00:34:28.190
live by a creek. That creek's never flooded over

00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:30.670
the original bank that our house is built on,

00:34:30.730 --> 00:34:32.849
ever. I found that out before we moved there.

00:34:32.949 --> 00:34:35.130
So it's not technically a flood zone. Right.

00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:38.130
But when those rains were coming and all that

00:34:38.130 --> 00:34:41.030
was happening, I was down there checking the

00:34:41.030 --> 00:34:45.349
bank, never even. hardly rose at all so but that's

00:34:45.349 --> 00:34:48.110
us we live three miles from the guadalupe that's

00:34:48.110 --> 00:34:50.070
right comfort where it comes through comfort

00:34:50.070 --> 00:34:54.329
i didn't i wasn't worried about that so again

00:34:54.329 --> 00:34:57.929
back to choices back to free will and does god

00:34:57.929 --> 00:35:01.610
cause chaos does god's god cause and then use

00:35:01.610 --> 00:35:05.329
people say well he allows it well i guess technically

00:35:05.329 --> 00:35:08.829
you could say that but it's not like he's green

00:35:08.829 --> 00:35:11.429
lighting everything that happens Things are just

00:35:11.429 --> 00:35:15.469
happening. He also gave us the stewardship over

00:35:15.469 --> 00:35:18.289
the earth. Absolutely. And so that's up to us

00:35:18.289 --> 00:35:21.010
whether we're doing it well or not and where

00:35:21.010 --> 00:35:24.429
we build, where things erode, et cetera. So in

00:35:24.429 --> 00:35:26.969
my mind, it's like this thing's going to groan

00:35:26.969 --> 00:35:30.250
and crack and creak for the rest of times until

00:35:30.250 --> 00:35:32.349
end of times. And lives will be lost and it will

00:35:32.349 --> 00:35:34.969
feel terribly unjust because children will pass.

00:35:35.230 --> 00:35:38.289
Yeah. Good people will die because of the earth.

00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:41.820
volatility. I mean, we're just a spinning ball

00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:45.280
in space. I mean, it's like, are we sure it's

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.159
a ball, Jimmy? I mean, or a Frisbee, I don't

00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.619
care, whatever. I mean, it's, it may be a Royal

00:35:50.619 --> 00:35:53.840
Frisbee, but a Mattel Frisbee, but at the end

00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:58.039
of the day, you know, he threw me with that one.

00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.300
Sorry about that. Totally threw me off my track.

00:36:01.059 --> 00:36:02.860
Yeah, about the Earth that would just spin and

00:36:02.860 --> 00:36:05.119
ball. Well, it's like you say about the Internet.

00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.260
It's amazing. Any of this stuff works. It's true.

00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:11.079
It's amazing that this thing can stay as stable

00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:14.800
as it has in space. No kidding. That stuff blows

00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.860
my mind. That's a good way to look at it, man.

00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.579
Just say, it's amazing. All of this works regardless

00:36:20.579 --> 00:36:23.659
of what you think. It's amazing our weather patterns

00:36:23.659 --> 00:36:25.840
aren't worse than they are, if you think about

00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:29.280
it. We're a ball in space orbiting with a bunch

00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.159
of other balls and stars and comets. And it's

00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.679
amazing a comet hasn't taken us out already.

00:36:34.820 --> 00:36:38.099
I mean, so I have to look. I just assess those

00:36:38.099 --> 00:36:43.139
things and look at them. And then I say. It's

00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:46.380
a miracle we're alive at all. We're the most

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.559
vulnerable thing on planet Earth. We are so vulnerable.

00:36:49.579 --> 00:36:51.960
And the weakest out of the whole animal kingdom

00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.780
for the most part. Yeah, no kidding. Except for

00:36:53.780 --> 00:36:55.340
our fur babies, maybe. They're a little more

00:36:55.340 --> 00:36:58.760
spoiled than we are. But literally, you have

00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.219
to take these steps back and look at things and

00:37:01.219 --> 00:37:06.079
try to be objective to say, okay. Am I going

00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.940
to blame what Scripture reveals to be a completely

00:37:09.940 --> 00:37:13.420
loving and gracious God who desires to bless

00:37:13.420 --> 00:37:16.559
His people? Am I going to blame Him because the

00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.860
river rose? Am I going to blame Him because a

00:37:18.860 --> 00:37:22.380
tornado went through a trailer park in Post,

00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.739
Texas? Am I going to blame Him because somebody

00:37:25.739 --> 00:37:29.719
ran a red light? So this is just a lack of wisdom,

00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.369
a lack of knowledge, a lack of... The scriptures,

00:37:32.530 --> 00:37:34.650
this is, this is what I'm learning. It's like,

00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:37.510
I go like, so, well, it was written. This has

00:37:37.510 --> 00:37:40.190
all been told through thousands of years and,

00:37:40.190 --> 00:37:42.610
and, you know, okay. I mean, you can, and if

00:37:42.610 --> 00:37:44.909
you don't believe it, this is the, this is the,

00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:47.730
as a new believer, this is just the, the hardest

00:37:47.730 --> 00:37:50.869
thing. And thank you, by the way, for that. That

00:37:50.869 --> 00:37:52.610
was a great explanation. I'm going to, I'm going

00:37:52.610 --> 00:37:54.429
to use that. And I wouldn't even say for just

00:37:54.429 --> 00:37:56.980
new believers, there's people who've. loved God

00:37:56.980 --> 00:37:59.780
for years, but have never reconciled pain and

00:37:59.780 --> 00:38:03.780
suffering and accidents and these things that

00:38:03.780 --> 00:38:06.619
happen in the world. I had to early on because

00:38:06.619 --> 00:38:08.800
I was faced with it with my mother passing away.

00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.159
And she was the best out of our whole big family.

00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.639
I come from a large family and she really was

00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.139
the most righteous, truthful, loving. sacrificial

00:38:18.139 --> 00:38:20.280
person in the whole group that's why my uncles

00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.440
who were wild honky -tonk hero kind of guys you

00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.539
know yeah who were saying how could god let this

00:38:25.539 --> 00:38:27.800
she was the best one why not me you know that

00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.380
yeah it's that immaturity and that inability

00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:34.599
to be objective and say well we all got stuff

00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.340
right we all abused our bodies or we've not taken

00:38:37.340 --> 00:38:40.929
care of ourselves and it's a crapshoot on who

00:38:40.929 --> 00:38:44.230
that's going to land on next, right? For example,

00:38:44.389 --> 00:38:48.650
we know that Steve Maxwell, our friend from Florida,

00:38:48.789 --> 00:38:51.570
he had a health event back in October, November,

00:38:51.670 --> 00:38:55.050
and he died for 15 minutes in an ambulance. was

00:38:55.050 --> 00:38:58.090
brought back, revived, resuscitated, resurrected,

00:38:58.389 --> 00:39:01.230
whatever. Coma for two weeks? Coma for eight

00:39:01.230 --> 00:39:05.050
days. Eight days. Walked out of the, and now

00:39:05.050 --> 00:39:07.170
seeing him now, he looks like he could play a

00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:08.989
professional football at this point. It's a miracle.

00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:12.690
Dude is shredded. He's working out. What happened?

00:39:12.730 --> 00:39:15.929
Well, that event provoked him. I got to take

00:39:15.929 --> 00:39:18.190
care of myself. And man, is he ever doing it.

00:39:18.210 --> 00:39:19.550
I mean, he's probably in the best shape of his

00:39:19.550 --> 00:39:21.590
life. Yeah. I mean, he looked fantastic. I was

00:39:21.590 --> 00:39:24.769
like. Dude, you look like Adonis. It was funny

00:39:24.769 --> 00:39:26.730
because we were at their house. They had a dinner

00:39:26.730 --> 00:39:29.510
for all the attendees, and it started raining,

00:39:29.590 --> 00:39:34.050
and then Steve is moving these big parasols on

00:39:34.050 --> 00:39:38.610
the terrace, and they're heavily weighted. And

00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:41.650
these things, they've got to be 40, 50 pounds.

00:39:41.769 --> 00:39:43.409
I'm like, Steve, can I help you? And he gives

00:39:43.409 --> 00:39:47.119
me a look. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. My bad.

00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.239
I was looking at you at the old heart attack

00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.059
crippled guy. Walking out of the hospital after

00:39:52.059 --> 00:39:54.820
eight days in a coma. He's like, no. Just moves

00:39:54.820 --> 00:39:57.260
it right over. It was fantastic. But this all

00:39:57.260 --> 00:40:00.239
feeds into what we're talking about is that God

00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.920
has given us this privilege to steward this life.

00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.039
And there will be things we have no control over.

00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:09.920
something falling off of the building. Every

00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.059
day. Every day. Every day it's a miracle we're

00:40:12.059 --> 00:40:14.099
alive. I mean, this stuff works at all, right?

00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:16.659
Yeah. And so we have to think that way and be

00:40:16.659 --> 00:40:19.460
okay with that and reconcile. Everybody has to

00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:25.179
reconcile suffering, pain, injustice. We all

00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:28.059
have to reconcile those things to think it's

00:40:28.059 --> 00:40:30.420
a privilege that we have a single breath in our

00:40:30.420 --> 00:40:33.619
lungs. You know, we can get mad at God over all

00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:36.340
these things that happen. Or we can say, thank

00:40:36.340 --> 00:40:39.239
you for letting me live this life. Thank you

00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:41.760
for letting me be born for such a time as this.

00:40:42.099 --> 00:40:45.940
Thank you that I'm here and I'm who I am. Whether

00:40:45.940 --> 00:40:48.820
it works good or not or I'm in the best scenario

00:40:48.820 --> 00:40:52.219
or not, I'm here now. This is what we have now.

00:40:52.539 --> 00:40:54.960
And then I always use this W -I -N -N, what is

00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.079
needed now. So what is needed now in this time?

00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:03.380
And to me, it's to help people reconcile pain.

00:41:04.429 --> 00:41:06.929
But also they've got to reconcile blessing because

00:41:06.929 --> 00:41:09.670
we don't do real well with that either. No kidding.

00:41:09.730 --> 00:41:12.269
When things are going great, we tend to get soft

00:41:12.269 --> 00:41:14.989
and weak. And when good times make weak men,

00:41:15.230 --> 00:41:18.250
you know, we tend to not do well when things

00:41:18.250 --> 00:41:20.329
are good. This is why I instituted the praise

00:41:20.329 --> 00:41:23.329
break. Did you start that? I just came up with

00:41:23.329 --> 00:41:25.489
it one day when I wrote a daily grind. I'm like,

00:41:25.570 --> 00:41:28.769
yeah, exactly. And so I do it all the time now.

00:41:28.829 --> 00:41:31.130
When something goes my way or something good

00:41:31.130 --> 00:41:33.699
happens, I go, praise break. Just throw my hands

00:41:33.699 --> 00:41:35.800
up. Praise break, just for a second, because

00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.940
it just resets your mind for a second. Like,

00:41:37.940 --> 00:41:40.199
where's this coming from? This is great. I want

00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.559
to be happy about this moment. By the way, every

00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.059
morning I start off with, you know, well, good

00:41:45.059 --> 00:41:46.980
morning, Holy Spirit. And I go, good morning,

00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.099
Lord Jesus. Good morning, Abba. Thank you for

00:41:50.099 --> 00:41:52.619
the roof over my head. Thank you for the food

00:41:52.619 --> 00:41:55.440
on my table. Yes. That's it. Yes. That's it.

00:41:55.539 --> 00:41:57.360
And then I'll go on and, you know, get ready

00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.300
for my Bible study, whatever. Those two things,

00:41:59.340 --> 00:42:01.789
like. We don't even realize sometimes we're so

00:42:01.789 --> 00:42:03.789
privileged. Like, thank you for the roof over

00:42:03.789 --> 00:42:06.710
my head and the food on our table. The two most

00:42:06.710 --> 00:42:09.670
basic elements. And you've got to do that stuff.

00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.000
And you're right, it resets our mind. And we

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:14.960
have to do that often. We've got to recalibrate

00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:15.840
the scale. Every day, several times a day. Remember

00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.940
the old scales that had the rusty... Oh, the

00:42:18.940 --> 00:42:20.880
knob that you twirl? The knob that was rusty.

00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.739
You had to reset it every time. They were never

00:42:22.739 --> 00:42:24.099
accurate, right? No, of course. They were like

00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:26.500
four or five pounds off. They still use those

00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:29.400
at the airport. There you go. So you've got to

00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.860
recalibrate that thing often. We have to do that

00:42:31.860 --> 00:42:36.119
with ourselves, especially in the face of calamity

00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.030
and tragedy. and injustice, all those things.

00:42:40.510 --> 00:42:44.150
And for whatever reason, the Lord gave me the

00:42:44.150 --> 00:42:46.869
grace to do that early on so that I've not had

00:42:46.869 --> 00:42:51.610
to wrestle with my faith or the fairness or unfairness

00:42:51.610 --> 00:42:54.269
of the world. That stuff just doesn't move me

00:42:54.269 --> 00:42:58.030
because I'm like, I can't say that's unfair.

00:42:58.130 --> 00:43:01.170
It's amazing. I even get a breath in my... Like,

00:43:01.170 --> 00:43:03.469
we got some bad news about our cabinet's drama

00:43:03.469 --> 00:43:05.289
that's been going on the last night. It's not

00:43:05.289 --> 00:43:07.210
over yet, brothers. Not over yet. They think

00:43:07.210 --> 00:43:09.969
it is. They say, we're not going down there.

00:43:10.070 --> 00:43:12.309
Forget it. You owe us X amount of money. I mean,

00:43:12.329 --> 00:43:15.769
it was a really unjust thing. Yeah. I could get

00:43:15.769 --> 00:43:18.329
real torqued about that, or I could just go,

00:43:18.449 --> 00:43:21.809
hey, so we may end up paying twice the amount

00:43:21.809 --> 00:43:25.820
for these cabinets than we should have. In a

00:43:25.820 --> 00:43:28.519
fair world, in a righteous world, but sometimes

00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.639
things aren't fair. Sometimes, and I'm not going

00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.599
to get torqued about it. Yeah, my mom, as long

00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:39.159
as I can remember, Adam, life is not fair. She

00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:40.940
just always said that. I think every parent,

00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:44.099
that's parenting 101. But I don't know if parents

00:43:44.099 --> 00:43:46.099
today are still saying these things, brother.

00:43:46.179 --> 00:43:48.300
I don't know if they are. I don't know either.

00:43:48.460 --> 00:43:50.519
I mean, I was watching a news story yesterday

00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:59.130
about... Parents who are using AI chat bots to

00:43:59.130 --> 00:44:01.969
make up stories for their kids. You know how

00:44:01.969 --> 00:44:05.769
you make up a story or you read a book, obviously,

00:44:05.869 --> 00:44:07.909
but you'll make up a story, a fun little story

00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:11.650
for your kid. And so saying, okay, chat GPT,

00:44:11.789 --> 00:44:15.969
make up a kid's story. The moral being brush

00:44:15.969 --> 00:44:18.550
your teeth and make this the, you know, these

00:44:18.550 --> 00:44:20.989
the characters and then off it goes. I'm like.

00:44:21.309 --> 00:44:25.730
No, no, no, no. And so when I was sitting here

00:44:25.730 --> 00:44:29.530
with young Jonah yesterday, I'm like, you know,

00:44:29.550 --> 00:44:31.750
I'll get some jingles going and I'll email it

00:44:31.750 --> 00:44:35.190
to you. He says, Mr. Adam, I don't have an email.

00:44:36.510 --> 00:44:39.190
And I knew he didn't have a phone. He has a watch

00:44:39.190 --> 00:44:42.309
and his watch, he can text and call. And the

00:44:42.309 --> 00:44:44.510
only apps are controlled by his dad's phone.

00:44:44.889 --> 00:44:48.070
And I'm just sitting here going like, that's

00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:51.510
so. awesome that is so awesome wow this is a

00:44:51.510 --> 00:44:54.289
kid who reads books of scripture he's really

00:44:54.289 --> 00:44:57.929
you know there's a there's a hopefully a a pastor

00:44:57.929 --> 00:44:59.929
in the making right no doubt this kid's got it

00:44:59.929 --> 00:45:02.929
all over no doubt young man um he plays golf

00:45:02.929 --> 00:45:05.650
you know he's he's he's doing stuff he plays

00:45:05.650 --> 00:45:09.150
music he writes devotionals for the for the for

00:45:09.150 --> 00:45:12.610
his class and for his buddies and like yeah and

00:45:12.610 --> 00:45:15.250
is he missing out Didn't seem like a disconnected

00:45:15.250 --> 00:45:17.989
young man to me. Not at all. Yeah, he seems very

00:45:17.989 --> 00:45:20.210
in tune with everything that's going on and seems

00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:24.929
really mature. And I'm like, we are, we collectively,

00:45:25.329 --> 00:45:29.949
we're really, and this kind of brings me to the

00:45:29.949 --> 00:45:32.429
things that I, see, I got my, thank you very

00:45:32.429 --> 00:45:34.750
much for your daily grind today. You had Ephesians

00:45:34.750 --> 00:45:36.909
6 .11. Well, you mentioned you read Ephesians,

00:45:36.909 --> 00:45:38.909
so that got me thinking about Ephesians. That's

00:45:38.909 --> 00:45:41.030
why I did it this morning. I was like, oh, I

00:45:41.030 --> 00:45:43.800
read through that again. Pastor Jimmy does this

00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:47.519
daily grind every single day, sends out, I think

00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:49.639
you send it to a lot of people on text message,

00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.380
and you always send one to our little besties

00:45:53.380 --> 00:45:55.679
group, the four of us with Tina and Annette,

00:45:55.699 --> 00:45:58.300
but you always send me separately, and we have

00:45:58.300 --> 00:46:02.519
our own little conversation going there. But

00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:06.559
I always, if we've spoken or if I've had any

00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.789
kind of... verbal or audible contact with you,

00:46:10.829 --> 00:46:12.929
I see where these daily grinds come from. Oh,

00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:15.010
we were talking about that the other day. And

00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:17.150
so, and I said, I think the other day I said,

00:46:17.230 --> 00:46:20.849
you know, God moved me to reread Ephesians, you

00:46:20.849 --> 00:46:25.030
know, to get my, my, my spiritual warfare armor

00:46:25.030 --> 00:46:27.269
on and get ready for all the things that are

00:46:27.269 --> 00:46:30.010
coming. And so then when I see that show up today,

00:46:30.110 --> 00:46:31.550
I'm like, wow, that's so awesome. Thank you.

00:46:31.550 --> 00:46:33.909
I appreciate that. Through conversations and

00:46:33.909 --> 00:46:37.449
friendships and relationships. You'll say something,

00:46:37.530 --> 00:46:40.230
Tina, Annette, whoever. So maybe Brian here or

00:46:40.230 --> 00:46:43.909
whatever, Pastor Brian. And then that gets my

00:46:43.909 --> 00:46:47.250
mind leaning. And there are these constant, we

00:46:47.250 --> 00:46:49.710
call them God taps, God wings, right? Where you

00:46:49.710 --> 00:46:52.250
get these reminders throughout a day. And so

00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:55.670
that was a reminder of, because I was thinking

00:46:55.670 --> 00:46:57.750
about Victor Marks too. I'd read some of his

00:46:57.750 --> 00:47:00.349
stuff. Because he's on warfare a lot. Obviously

00:47:00.349 --> 00:47:03.090
he's got a war mindset. But I was thinking about

00:47:03.090 --> 00:47:05.159
that and I was thinking. you know what, there

00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.380
is some attack going on. I need to get back into

00:47:08.380 --> 00:47:11.420
Ephesians 6 especially. I just went right back

00:47:11.420 --> 00:47:13.340
through that. Some attack? Yeah, I mean, right?

00:47:13.460 --> 00:47:15.940
Some attack? Yeah. You know, I try to explain

00:47:15.940 --> 00:47:17.880
to nonbelievers and say, you know in all the

00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:19.860
movies they got the little devil on one shoulder,

00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.780
the angel on the other. This is real. This is

00:47:22.780 --> 00:47:27.000
real, except they are. Eight feet tall. You can't

00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.860
see them. The angels, they're not as cute as

00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:31.400
you think they are. They're not running around

00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.179
like cherubs with little bows and arrows. No,

00:47:34.179 --> 00:47:38.199
no. They can knock you down with one fell swoop.

00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:41.079
And then there's the enemy, and the enemy is

00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:45.239
very ugly and very, very grotesque looking. And,

00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.440
you know, there's so much. As I become more aware,

00:47:49.500 --> 00:47:53.260
I know that there's physical manifestation. These

00:47:53.260 --> 00:47:56.610
things are. popping up around us you know sometimes

00:47:56.610 --> 00:47:59.329
they move into our dimension if you will so where

00:47:59.329 --> 00:48:01.849
we can see them or really feel them right and

00:48:01.849 --> 00:48:05.440
i just really want people to Think about that

00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.559
and just be aware that all the time this—and

00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.280
it's in Scripture. Very clear in Scripture. It's

00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.199
all throughout Scripture, but Ephesians, especially

00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:20.059
with the principalities and—come on, Pastor Jimmy,

00:48:20.179 --> 00:48:21.400
you're better at this than I am. Well, Ephesians

00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.139
1, when Paul's praying, he talks about Christ's

00:48:24.139 --> 00:48:26.760
overall principality, power, might, and dominion.

00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.719
And all of those are spiritual in nature. And

00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.940
then in Ephesians 6— He goes into principalities

00:48:32.940 --> 00:48:37.380
and powers. I even read commentaries on that

00:48:37.380 --> 00:48:39.460
even recently because I like to go back and just

00:48:39.460 --> 00:48:42.039
brush up on things, what really smart people

00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.980
are saying, see if I'm in alignment. And not

00:48:45.980 --> 00:48:48.300
always, but that's not always a bad thing because

00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:51.639
they're just people too. But the scholars generally

00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.780
agree that all of those are literally spiritual

00:48:53.780 --> 00:48:55.940
entities. It's not talking about government.

00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.559
It's not talking about... Physical rulers. It's

00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.280
talking about spiritual rulers in heavenly places,

00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.039
Ephesians 6 talks about, and Ephesians 1. So

00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.360
these are real. These entities are real. The

00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.900
devil is real. It's not an old Flip Wilson thing,

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.539
you know, the devil made me do it. Remember that?

00:49:12.659 --> 00:49:16.900
It's not that. It's literally there's an interactive

00:49:16.900 --> 00:49:21.199
life that we live with realms that we can't necessarily

00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:24.960
see. On an ongoing basis. I think this is a big

00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.400
key to getting into young people's hearts and

00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.719
minds. Because if you say, hey, there's this

00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.179
stuff going on that you can't see with your naked

00:49:33.179 --> 00:49:37.940
eye, they are much more inclined to believe that.

00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:41.519
I agree. Because, you know, there's a lot of,

00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.679
of course, we always go through cycles of new

00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.900
age and spirituality and UFOs and all this stuff.

00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:52.900
But I even see it with Joe Rogan, who... I text

00:49:52.900 --> 00:49:55.000
him maybe once a month, you know, if I see a

00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.239
good show or something happened. And I literally

00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:04.059
saw good and evil pop up in one week. And the

00:50:04.059 --> 00:50:10.980
first one was this Tallarico state rep who, and

00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:13.639
I want to be real careful here because, you know,

00:50:13.659 --> 00:50:19.219
his seminary school and his church, his denomination,

00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:22.070
wherever he's coming from. does not align with

00:50:22.070 --> 00:50:24.550
mine, doesn't mean that he may not believe in

00:50:24.550 --> 00:50:27.389
the same things, but he has a very, and this

00:50:27.389 --> 00:50:30.429
is what I call the sparkle clergy, has a very

00:50:30.429 --> 00:50:32.550
distorted view when you, instead of saying Jesus

00:50:32.550 --> 00:50:34.730
is real, he's like, well, Jesus is a pattern.

00:50:34.949 --> 00:50:39.730
You know, like, no, okay. And so he was justifying

00:50:39.730 --> 00:50:46.010
a lot of evil doings in our world. based upon

00:50:46.010 --> 00:50:48.309
his interpretation of scripture. And I could

00:50:48.309 --> 00:50:50.809
see, first of all, I know Joe well enough that

00:50:51.210 --> 00:50:53.429
He was like, okay, I don't think he was really

00:50:53.429 --> 00:50:56.289
buying all of it, or he was very guarded. But

00:50:56.289 --> 00:50:58.650
then within the same week, this guy Chad Wright

00:50:58.650 --> 00:51:02.230
pops up, and he's just ministering to Joe. And

00:51:02.230 --> 00:51:05.449
he says, Joe, your analytical mind, this is exactly

00:51:05.449 --> 00:51:07.230
what we need. You're going to be a great preacher.

00:51:07.429 --> 00:51:09.389
I can't wait to see what God's going to do with

00:51:09.389 --> 00:51:11.750
you. And he was just going like a step beyond

00:51:11.750 --> 00:51:14.510
what I ever said to Joe. But I texted him, and

00:51:14.510 --> 00:51:21.159
I said, 100%. Chad Wright is praying for you.

00:51:21.219 --> 00:51:23.659
I am praying for you every day, and Joe, thousands

00:51:23.659 --> 00:51:25.860
of people are praying for you. That was it. I

00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:28.860
didn't say, and by the way, great episode. I've

00:51:28.860 --> 00:51:30.920
sent him stuff like that before he answered this

00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.199
time, which told me he moved a little bit. But

00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:37.900
what I was seeing is here's a guy who believed

00:51:37.900 --> 00:51:43.800
in UFOs, believed in the multidimensional layers

00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.400
of the universe. If you look at his journey,

00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.039
you know, it just keeps coming back to, well,

00:51:50.099 --> 00:51:53.900
where did it start? And I think he's ready. He

00:51:53.900 --> 00:52:00.039
even said in that interview, so in order to get

00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:03.280
to where you are, Chad, right, you have to believe

00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:04.960
in this. You have to have faith that that is

00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.559
true. Bingo. There it is. There it is, faith.

00:52:07.860 --> 00:52:10.639
And I think that clicked with him. I'm sure it's

00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.719
super scary. I know how. anxious you can be about

00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.900
this and making that big step. But I want people

00:52:19.900 --> 00:52:24.920
to really think about that, the spiritual beings

00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.039
that are all around us, because it's much easier

00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:31.539
for this generation to accept that because there's

00:52:31.539 --> 00:52:35.179
so much we don't see that people easily believe

00:52:35.179 --> 00:52:38.059
in. Exactly. And, oh, by the way, this has been

00:52:38.059 --> 00:52:41.219
written about for thousands of years. So just

00:52:41.219 --> 00:52:44.409
read this book. You know, check this out. You'll

00:52:44.409 --> 00:52:47.570
be astounded. And that's been so helpful for

00:52:47.570 --> 00:52:50.710
me because I've done all kinds of breath work

00:52:50.710 --> 00:52:54.269
and, you know, you name it. You know, I've done

00:52:54.269 --> 00:52:56.929
it. My mom was part of a group called the Mind

00:52:56.929 --> 00:52:58.769
Control Group, which is pretty funny considering

00:52:58.769 --> 00:53:03.760
what kind of job they had. And she would go into,

00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.340
I can go into alpha and then to beta state and

00:53:07.340 --> 00:53:10.840
then all of this stuff. And, you know, so I was

00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.360
kind of grown, I grew up with that idea. Like,

00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.840
yeah, you can probably do that, hypnotism, all

00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.619
these mystical things. But when you just say,

00:53:18.699 --> 00:53:20.800
hey, look at this, look at this story, look at

00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:24.719
this truth that is written here, read that and

00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:27.179
you'll get it. And then you can, and, you know,

00:53:27.179 --> 00:53:30.960
and Hollywood has... knows that these stories

00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.199
work, the good, the bad, the evil, the villain,

00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.300
because it's true, because that is the life that

00:53:36.300 --> 00:53:38.960
we're living in, and it feels natural to us.

00:53:38.980 --> 00:53:42.239
So I'm so hopeful that we can propagate this

00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.639
and have people look at it. Ephesians is just

00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:47.780
such a great thing because... It involves warfare,

00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:50.599
which you don't really expect from, oh, the godly

00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.079
Christian people. Sweet, nice people. Hey, man,

00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:57.079
I got a helmet on. I got a breastplate on. I

00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.739
got a belt on. I got my special shoes. Exactly.

00:54:01.219 --> 00:54:03.079
I got a shield. I got a sword. I got all this

00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:05.760
stuff. And I'm going to battle every single day.

00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:08.300
And, you know, that's really something I hope

00:54:08.300 --> 00:54:12.710
that we can. we can pass on to these new generations.

00:54:12.889 --> 00:54:15.329
And I'm excited to see where Jonah will go. I

00:54:15.329 --> 00:54:18.489
want to see more of our youth. I'm going to dedicate

00:54:18.489 --> 00:54:21.570
myself to trying to get more of them to do stuff.

00:54:21.650 --> 00:54:29.309
And we know that this Gen Z definitely is considered

00:54:29.309 --> 00:54:33.469
to be more conservative by nature. Many are looking

00:54:33.469 --> 00:54:37.789
at faith. So part of the warfare that we as,

00:54:37.889 --> 00:54:41.750
I'm going to say it, elders, have to help them

00:54:41.750 --> 00:54:45.769
with is people like tolerico this is a danger

00:54:45.769 --> 00:54:50.429
we have to we have because it's so it's so believable

00:54:50.429 --> 00:54:55.050
like oh okay so i can be a godly guy and all

00:54:55.050 --> 00:54:56.829
these other things and you know an abortion would

00:54:56.829 --> 00:54:58.909
be okay too so i don't have to have a confrontation

00:54:58.909 --> 00:55:01.750
about that with with other people right right

00:55:01.750 --> 00:55:05.929
and yet we were born into a world at war it was

00:55:05.929 --> 00:55:08.940
at war before we were born into it And now that

00:55:08.940 --> 00:55:12.219
we are born again, born the second time, the

00:55:12.219 --> 00:55:14.840
spiritual birth, we're drafted. We signed our

00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.639
draft card and we said yes to Jesus. That's why

00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.460
I'm in the prayer unit, right? Yeah, I love your

00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:22.059
hoodie, man. You're rocking one of your great

00:55:22.059 --> 00:55:25.840
hoodies, one of your 30 hoodies. Pretty much.

00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:29.380
But it's true. And we have to help the next generation

00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:32.360
understand. I think you're right. I think they're

00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:34.420
more open to it. I know when I was a youth pastor

00:55:34.420 --> 00:55:36.800
out in Southern California, we had a massive

00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.750
move of God. But we also had massive spiritual

00:55:39.750 --> 00:55:41.929
warfare. I mean, literally where we were in the

00:55:41.929 --> 00:55:43.909
high desert, that's where all the rave parties

00:55:43.909 --> 00:55:47.710
started, where the cult was so heavy. We were

00:55:47.710 --> 00:55:49.869
out walking around our church, and it was right

00:55:49.869 --> 00:55:52.989
up next to a desert draw, like an old river that

00:55:52.989 --> 00:55:55.690
only runs during the flood season, right? So

00:55:55.690 --> 00:55:57.840
it was like almost a canyon. And down in the

00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.820
bottom of it, we found a site where animals were

00:56:00.820 --> 00:56:03.719
being sacrificed against our church. I mean,

00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:06.300
it was like coming against us because our church

00:56:06.300 --> 00:56:08.579
stood. I mean, we were a strong church and we

00:56:08.579 --> 00:56:11.800
even had a whole ministry dedicated to what's

00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.260
called SRA, Satanic Ritual Abuse. We had counselors

00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:19.739
that were... that were wired and trained to deal

00:56:19.739 --> 00:56:21.980
with that because it was so prevalent in that

00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:24.300
culture. It's not even a bad idea for here because

00:56:24.300 --> 00:56:27.079
it's everywhere. Here's the thing I found out,

00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:28.760
and this is just kind of a side note, but it's

00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.340
important to say, when we lived in Southern California

00:56:31.340 --> 00:56:33.019
in the high desert, Victorville, Apple Valley,

00:56:33.179 --> 00:56:36.820
Hesperia area, which is known to be a very spiritually

00:56:36.820 --> 00:56:40.519
dark place, I actually was more alert, more in

00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:43.239
tune with God, closer to God in the sense that

00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:47.630
evil was obvious. Nobody hid it there. I will

00:56:47.630 --> 00:56:49.670
say that about California is nothing hidden.

00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:52.590
It was out in the open. You knew what you were

00:56:52.590 --> 00:56:56.670
dealing with here in the South and in Texas,

00:56:56.750 --> 00:56:59.849
Texas is like the South on steroids. It's a whole

00:56:59.849 --> 00:57:01.769
nother level of independence, a whole nother

00:57:01.769 --> 00:57:04.590
level of we're on the Republic of Texas kind

00:57:04.590 --> 00:57:07.230
of thing is that people here are known for their

00:57:07.230 --> 00:57:10.239
niceness. We're known for the decorum. They're

00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:12.920
known for their sweetness, give you the shirt

00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.179
off my back, which is a beautiful part of our

00:57:15.179 --> 00:57:18.119
culture. The only problem is it can also mask

00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.420
what's really going on and cover. So people can,

00:57:21.500 --> 00:57:23.460
I love you, brother, and give you a hug, and

00:57:23.460 --> 00:57:25.599
you don't know they're stabbing you in the back

00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:28.440
in the next conversation. So at least there,

00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.219
the enemy was visible. And boy, was he ever.

00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.559
I mean, I learned a lot. I got put on a crash

00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.599
course. of what spiritual warfare is about and

00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.860
the real stuff. I'm talking way beyond things

00:57:41.860 --> 00:57:45.500
that go bump in the night. So how do you make

00:57:45.500 --> 00:57:47.800
yourself aware of this every day? I mean, do

00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.099
you? I do. Are you thinking about it every day?

00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.440
On the days I don't make myself aware, the things

00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:56.559
that happen make me aware. I'm reminded. Right,

00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:58.679
if you don't watch your six. Because you don't

00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:02.019
think 24 -7 on a single thing. We're not singular

00:58:02.019 --> 00:58:04.000
by nature. We're thinking about a million things.

00:58:04.539 --> 00:58:06.639
We're busy. We're doing tasks. We've got things,

00:58:06.739 --> 00:58:10.000
boxes to check, podcasts to do, sermons to write.

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.480
So we've got stuff going on. So you don't think

00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.179
about it all the time. But there is an awareness

00:58:15.179 --> 00:58:17.679
that you can live with. I call it living with

00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:19.940
your eyes wide open. You know, you just, you

00:58:19.940 --> 00:58:23.039
live. I think Victor Marks calls it the four

00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:28.690
A's. You assess. You're aware. You there's a

00:58:28.690 --> 00:58:32.110
third one. I don't know. And then the last one's

00:58:32.110 --> 00:58:35.250
act. So there's there's four to it. I can't remember

00:58:35.250 --> 00:58:38.849
the fourth one. But anyway, it's this attitude

00:58:38.849 --> 00:58:42.269
of living aware, living with assessment, living

00:58:42.269 --> 00:58:44.570
with situational awareness. Well, we have to

00:58:44.570 --> 00:58:48.849
do that spiritually, just like we do. For example,

00:58:49.010 --> 00:58:52.429
when you and I walk into a restaurant, we always

00:58:52.429 --> 00:58:55.250
joke about. Who's going to sit with their back

00:58:55.250 --> 00:58:56.809
to the wall facing the exits? Who's going to

00:58:56.809 --> 00:58:59.070
keep their eyes open? And I'll say, do you have

00:58:59.070 --> 00:59:01.889
my six? Right? Right. So we live in a world where

00:59:01.889 --> 00:59:05.210
we need to be situationally aware. And men should

00:59:05.210 --> 00:59:07.710
always know to walk into an environment. My dad

00:59:07.710 --> 00:59:09.590
was a first responder, so I got this. Where are

00:59:09.590 --> 00:59:12.570
the exits? Where are the exits? Or the entrances.

00:59:12.889 --> 00:59:14.730
You notice they always light the exits. Make

00:59:14.730 --> 00:59:16.690
sure you know where those are. I am that guy

00:59:16.690 --> 00:59:18.849
in the airplane who actually will look when they

00:59:18.849 --> 00:59:22.150
say the closest one could be behind you. I always

00:59:22.150 --> 00:59:24.139
look back. Okay, I see it. I know where it is.

00:59:24.139 --> 00:59:25.719
And I'm looking for the marshal. I'm trying to

00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:27.219
figure out who's the marshal. Who's the marshal?

00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.480
Is it he or she this time? Is it like Liam Neeson

00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.539
or is he just a regular dude? That is so good

00:59:33.539 --> 00:59:37.119
because the devil's playground is the phones.

00:59:37.579 --> 00:59:40.579
I'm just going to say it. I agree. It's the devil's

00:59:40.579 --> 00:59:43.539
playground. I agree as one who admits I'm addicted

00:59:43.539 --> 00:59:46.110
to this thing. Because so much of my life as

00:59:46.110 --> 00:59:49.429
a pastor is communication. Of course. So naturally,

00:59:49.650 --> 00:59:51.769
I'm communicating with people from my congregation,

00:59:51.949 --> 00:59:53.590
other pastors. Yeah, well, the communication

00:59:53.590 --> 00:59:56.809
part is okay, but it's everything else. But that's

00:59:56.809 --> 00:59:59.130
not what all this is. This has a lot more than

00:59:59.130 --> 01:00:04.500
a phone. Yes. Right? It's a gateway drug to a

01:00:04.500 --> 01:00:07.400
lot of dark things. When we travel, I get in

01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.320
the habit of I'm tall, so if I'm standing behind

01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.340
somebody, I can see what they're doing. And I'm

01:00:13.340 --> 01:00:17.500
always amazed at the speed of the fingers flicking

01:00:17.500 --> 01:00:20.480
and moving and zooming and commenting and this

01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:25.320
and that and back and forth. And it's unbelievable

01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:29.179
if you step back and watch. have the most broken,

01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:31.659
inaccessible phone possible. Not always possible

01:00:31.659 --> 01:00:34.079
because those phones usually break by themselves,

01:00:34.179 --> 01:00:38.719
but I try to purposely make it difficult or unattractive

01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:44.460
to use. And we were in New York for Tina's birthday

01:00:44.460 --> 01:00:49.400
and 85 % of the people on the street were walking

01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:53.179
with their phone in their hand, walking and on

01:00:53.179 --> 01:00:55.599
their phone doing all that quick fingered stuff

01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.300
that I'm talking about. The other 15%, we're

01:00:58.300 --> 01:01:01.139
holding their hand and guiding them. Keep them

01:01:01.139 --> 01:01:02.860
from running into the stop sign or whatever.

01:01:02.940 --> 01:01:06.739
So that situational awareness that we have or

01:01:06.739 --> 01:01:09.559
actually don't possess anymore because we're

01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.199
just doing this, we're doing it in the car, at

01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:15.780
the stoplight, we're watching TV. And I think

01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:17.960
the text messaging also has, there's a whole

01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:20.639
bunch of issues with that, but anything else,

01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.920
it is sucking you into the devil's play. I know

01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:26.699
I sound like a... Like a crazy Southern Baptist

01:01:26.699 --> 01:01:28.679
guy. It's sucking you into the devil's playground.

01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:32.619
He's a curmudgeon. But it is true. It is absolutely

01:01:32.619 --> 01:01:36.239
true. And the whole phone ecosystem is geared

01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.139
towards knowing what you're doing on other apps.

01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:40.840
I mean, we could go real deep into that, but

01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.639
it is geared towards keeping you engaged because

01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:46.519
engagement is money. That's just the bottom line.

01:01:46.659 --> 01:01:48.619
But the more engaged you are with what's in your

01:01:48.619 --> 01:01:50.619
hand, the less aware you are of your surroundings.

01:01:50.820 --> 01:01:53.280
No, zero awareness. Which means we're all basically

01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.340
sitting ducks. You go into airports are where

01:01:56.340 --> 01:01:58.679
I see it the most. Oh, goodness. Everybody's

01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:00.760
on their phone because nobody wants to engage

01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:02.519
another human being. You could run through the

01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:04.500
terminal naked. Half the people wouldn't even

01:02:04.500 --> 01:02:05.500
know it. Wouldn't even notice. Wouldn't even

01:02:05.500 --> 01:02:09.960
know it. No. So being spiritually aware is something

01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.980
that is already suppressed below our actual physical

01:02:13.980 --> 01:02:18.079
awareness. And getting people to be cognizant

01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:20.380
of what they're doing, what they're thinking

01:02:20.380 --> 01:02:26.989
of, you know. Tina and I did Bill Loveless' Christ

01:02:26.989 --> 01:02:29.690
-centered marriage course here through the church.

01:02:29.789 --> 01:02:35.210
It was on Zoom, actually. And that—now, we've

01:02:35.210 --> 01:02:37.429
only been together for a little over a decade,

01:02:37.449 --> 01:02:40.929
so we're pretty good and fresh and new no matter.

01:02:41.010 --> 01:02:42.909
We haven't had enough years for real irritation

01:02:42.909 --> 01:02:46.829
to build up. But it changed our perspective of

01:02:46.829 --> 01:02:50.469
each other to such an enormous degree, so beautiful,

01:02:50.489 --> 01:02:54.980
because— I now can recognize, and you know, I've

01:02:54.980 --> 01:02:59.000
been divorced twice. I've had a colored life.

01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.860
But there are things that still to this day,

01:03:02.940 --> 01:03:06.219
the way my wife might say something or ask me

01:03:06.219 --> 01:03:08.039
something, typically or in the morning before

01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:11.699
I've had coffee or my eighth cup. And I'm like,

01:03:11.780 --> 01:03:15.679
wow, old Adam would have been irked by that.

01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:20.840
Right. And my spiritual awareness is telling

01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:23.269
me, The enemy is knocking on your brain, brother.

01:03:23.449 --> 01:03:26.230
That's the enemy right there. And he's trying

01:03:26.230 --> 01:03:29.309
to make you feel bad about something which 99

01:03:29.309 --> 01:03:34.750
.9 % of the time had no malice intent at all.

01:03:34.869 --> 01:03:37.570
We all tend to say something that's like, oh,

01:03:37.590 --> 01:03:38.829
there's a little undertone of something there.

01:03:40.070 --> 01:03:46.269
But because of the spiritual awareness of, and

01:03:46.269 --> 01:03:49.090
not everything you do is the devil or the enemy.

01:03:49.659 --> 01:03:53.400
I think people have other issues, but a lot of

01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.039
the time it is just something is said and the

01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.599
enemy is like, oh, I have an opportunity. Oh,

01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:03.519
I can make him feel bad about this or angry or

01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:06.860
whatever. Man, how can we teach young people

01:04:06.860 --> 01:04:09.820
these skills? How can we teach our peers these

01:04:09.820 --> 01:04:12.420
skills? Yeah, there's certain martial arts that

01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:15.139
it's not about how strong you are. It's about

01:04:15.139 --> 01:04:17.360
how well you can leverage the strength of your

01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:19.900
opponent. Yeah, your opponent. And that's how

01:04:19.900 --> 01:04:22.039
the enemy works. It's not that he's strength.

01:04:22.219 --> 01:04:24.519
He's a deceiver by nature, a liar by nature.

01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:28.079
And so all he does is leverage our missteps,

01:04:28.380 --> 01:04:32.139
our mishaps, our mistakes, our moments. And he

01:04:32.139 --> 01:04:35.800
leverages our own energy. That's right. That's

01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.219
what jiu -jitsu is. It's exactly the same. And

01:04:38.219 --> 01:04:42.059
so he's the ultimate opportunist. How can we

01:04:42.059 --> 01:04:45.579
teach the next generation that? How can we make

01:04:45.579 --> 01:04:49.820
them more aware? There's also another caveat

01:04:49.820 --> 01:04:53.980
to this that you can become so hyper aware that

01:04:53.980 --> 01:04:57.719
you see a devil or a demon behind everything.

01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.119
We become very legalistic. Or just hyper spiritual

01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.400
to where you can't even have a normal conversation

01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.440
with another human being without it being something

01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:10.159
weird. So there is that tension and that slash

01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:12.400
balance, which are the same thing. Balance and

01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.960
tension are the same thing, the same way that

01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:18.340
we have to find to where. I'm situationally aware

01:05:18.340 --> 01:05:21.719
in the natural. I'm situationally aware in the

01:05:21.719 --> 01:05:26.619
spiritual, but I'm not weird about it. I don't

01:05:26.619 --> 01:05:29.760
sit in a restaurant or an airport on a plane

01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.659
and stare at everyone that makes me nervous.

01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:34.000
I also just want to enjoy my steak. Exactly.

01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.380
So there's four levels of colors that the Patriot

01:05:37.380 --> 01:05:42.639
Academy, they're taking that class, where they

01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:46.559
talk about the first level is white. And that

01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.920
means you're completely unaware. You're walking

01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.440
through the airport with your phone in your hand,

01:05:52.539 --> 01:05:54.739
bumping into people and stumbling over things.

01:05:54.820 --> 01:05:57.039
That's the white color? That's white. The next

01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.679
one, there's four of them. The next one is yellow.

01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:02.219
Yellow is where you want to live, where you're

01:06:02.219 --> 01:06:05.760
situationally aware, but you're not hypervigilant

01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:08.860
at that point. You're not walking into a restaurant

01:06:08.860 --> 01:06:12.440
with your hand on your holster or having your

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.059
hand on your gun because you're assuming something's

01:06:15.059 --> 01:06:17.780
going to happen. That's where you want to live.

01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.619
That's the peaceful state where you can enjoy

01:06:20.619 --> 01:06:24.019
your dinner, but yet you're still cognizant.

01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:25.860
Mellow yellow. Yeah, mellow yellow is what I

01:06:25.860 --> 01:06:29.519
call it. The next one is the level orange. Orange

01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:32.260
means there's a potential threat. That's where

01:06:32.260 --> 01:06:35.340
you've assessed the situation. And you see something.

01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:38.119
Somebody, you're at a gas station with your wife

01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:41.179
on a trip. Stop it at a Love's or one of those,

01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:44.239
you know, what's the big one? Buc -ee's. Buc

01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:48.239
-ee's. Thank you. That one. You're there. And

01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:50.880
there's a lot of people. And there's some sketchy

01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.940
people that pull up next to your gas pump. And

01:06:54.940 --> 01:06:57.280
they're looking over at your wife. Now you've

01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.340
moved into potential threat mode. You're in orange.

01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:04.070
And that's a vigilant place. But the last one

01:07:04.070 --> 01:07:07.050
is really the scary one. That's the red. So you've

01:07:07.050 --> 01:07:11.130
got white, yellow, orange, red. Red means there's

01:07:11.130 --> 01:07:14.309
imminent threat. So once potential threat, now

01:07:14.309 --> 01:07:16.489
this is imminent threat. In other words, they're

01:07:16.489 --> 01:07:19.610
coming at you. They've made a move. And that's

01:07:19.610 --> 01:07:23.630
where you have to act. And so make the analogy

01:07:23.630 --> 01:07:25.829
to the spiritual from that. It's exactly the

01:07:25.829 --> 01:07:28.690
same. Yeah. It's exactly the same. When they

01:07:28.690 --> 01:07:30.690
taught us that principle, we took our staff.

01:07:31.369 --> 01:07:33.590
through the constitutional defense course where

01:07:33.590 --> 01:07:36.309
we got to shoot 300 rounds. That was a blast,

01:07:36.349 --> 01:07:38.389
you know, with, with our, our ladies and our

01:07:38.389 --> 01:07:41.110
staff are shooting in there, man, they're amazing.

01:07:41.449 --> 01:07:44.610
So, but, but when I learned that I made the,

01:07:44.610 --> 01:07:47.670
the, I just made that jump within a nanosecond

01:07:47.670 --> 01:07:50.130
of this is exactly what spiritual, the spiritual

01:07:50.130 --> 01:07:53.469
life is the same. You can live very unaware of

01:07:53.469 --> 01:07:56.710
your surroundings. Sadly, most Christians live

01:07:56.710 --> 01:07:59.309
at the white level. They're unaware. I'm not

01:07:59.309 --> 01:08:01.239
talking about holding a phone. I'm just talking

01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.139
about they're not in the Word. They're not in

01:08:03.139 --> 01:08:05.579
the Scriptures. They're not getting their buckets,

01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:07.900
as we use that a lot. They're not getting their

01:08:07.900 --> 01:08:10.420
buckets filled up. So they have nothing to draw

01:08:10.420 --> 01:08:16.180
from when things do go to yellow on into. So

01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:19.640
it's the same way spiritually. I've got to be

01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:23.560
aware. that there are nefarious things happening

01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.800
around me in the spiritual realm. There's a very

01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.619
real enemy. Scripture says he's a schemer, a

01:08:28.619 --> 01:08:32.579
strategist, a liar, a deceiver, a manipulator.

01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:35.100
All of those are accurate descriptions of the

01:08:35.100 --> 01:08:37.199
work of the enemy. Whether you're talking about

01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:39.380
Satan himself, that would be the ultimate E,

01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.220
enemy, or the enemy in terms of minions and the

01:08:43.220 --> 01:08:45.800
demonic forces and wicked hosts that are there

01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:49.779
that the Bible talks about. So the yellow, that

01:08:49.779 --> 01:08:51.539
would be the place you want to live, where you're

01:08:51.539 --> 01:08:54.920
aware of your situation. You do connect the dots

01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:58.180
and go, eh, that's not normal, or that's beyond

01:08:58.180 --> 01:09:01.380
the scope of just happened. There's something

01:09:01.380 --> 01:09:03.800
behind that. The Bible calls it the spiritual

01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:07.060
gift of discerning of spirits. And that's where

01:09:07.060 --> 01:09:10.079
you actually, the Holy Spirit helps you see behind

01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.260
it. Can everybody develop that? Absolutely. That

01:09:13.260 --> 01:09:15.779
spiritual gift? Because it's a gift of the spirit,

01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.180
not a gift of the person. Right, right. So I

01:09:18.180 --> 01:09:21.359
don't possess that gift. I get to use that gift

01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:23.939
because the gift is the person of the Holy Spirit

01:09:23.939 --> 01:09:26.039
who lives in me. Right. So he has these nine

01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.380
manifestation gifts that are available to me

01:09:28.380 --> 01:09:31.380
whenever he wants to manifest them if I'm open

01:09:31.380 --> 01:09:34.020
to them. See what I'm saying? I've got to will

01:09:34.020 --> 01:09:36.779
submit myself to him, be led by the spirits,

01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:39.300
what it means. That means in a given situation,

01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:43.569
I'll know what's going on. So, for example, In

01:09:43.569 --> 01:09:46.649
that yellow zone, you're aware. You can see things

01:09:46.649 --> 01:09:49.050
that are happening, but you're not spiritually

01:09:49.050 --> 01:09:52.569
seeing a devil behind everything. Wait, my light

01:09:52.569 --> 01:09:54.890
flickered over there. Oh, man, I saw that in

01:09:54.890 --> 01:09:57.989
the movies. That's got to be demonic. No, power

01:09:57.989 --> 01:10:00.250
surge because we live in a small town, and that

01:10:00.250 --> 01:10:02.600
happens in small towns. Power surges everywhere.

01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:07.020
Or the toilet broke in the men's bathroom. That's

01:10:07.020 --> 01:10:09.060
not demonic in nature. It just broke. That's

01:10:09.060 --> 01:10:10.260
plumbing. You know what I'm saying? It's plumbing.

01:10:10.340 --> 01:10:12.659
It happens. Those things go away. They break.

01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:16.159
So all that to say, on into the orange and the

01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.939
red. It's the same of, is this a potential threat?

01:10:19.100 --> 01:10:21.239
Is there really potentially something dark going

01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.359
on here? We should be practicing this. Oh, absolutely.

01:10:24.619 --> 01:10:26.640
We need to practice this daily because you should

01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:30.600
be able to go from never white, always yellow.

01:10:31.100 --> 01:10:33.779
To orange, red, quick, back. Okay. Red, I'm back

01:10:33.779 --> 01:10:36.340
down. Okay, back to yellow. That may be a conversation

01:10:36.340 --> 01:10:38.560
we need to have on a broader scale with our church

01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:41.880
family and students and young people. Using that,

01:10:41.939 --> 01:10:45.000
I love that color scale because that's just a

01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:49.279
good template. It's not a Bible term or you won't

01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:52.420
find the four color scale in scripture. but you'll

01:10:52.420 --> 01:10:55.319
find those degrees of awareness in Scripture

01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.159
in various things. So anyway, I think that would

01:10:58.159 --> 01:10:59.840
be really something to talk about. So that's

01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:02.399
just one of the nine spiritual gifts? Yeah, the

01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:04.539
gift of discerning of spirits. So we have eight

01:11:04.539 --> 01:11:06.880
more times we've got to talk. Yeah, absolutely.

01:11:09.859 --> 01:11:12.920
How long have we been talking? An hour and 11

01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:14.359
minutes. Yeah, we've been going on for a bit.

01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:17.539
I would love to do this again with you, brother,

01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:19.239
because there are a couple other things that...

01:11:19.579 --> 01:11:22.300
are really on my heart that I see out in culture.

01:11:22.420 --> 01:11:24.899
And a big one we could talk for a whole episode

01:11:24.899 --> 01:11:30.380
about Israel. Absolutely. And Epstein and Mossad

01:11:30.380 --> 01:11:34.600
and AIPAC and, quote, the Jews. This is a huge

01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:38.520
thing that is just wrecking culture right now.

01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:42.500
It's wrecking people's minds. And there's so

01:11:42.500 --> 01:11:45.479
many different ways to look at this. I would

01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:49.100
love to talk to you about that. Definitely. I

01:11:49.100 --> 01:11:52.520
also would love to come back and talk about the

01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:55.420
things that our president is doing that people

01:11:55.420 --> 01:11:58.500
don't even see or understand because it's so

01:11:58.500 --> 01:12:01.640
superficial. The way I say it is he's playing

01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:04.039
4D chess. Everybody else is playing go fish.

01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:09.899
Yes, that's true. The problem is we're the fish.

01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:14.199
We're just sitting and going, give me a nugget

01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:17.479
on my news feed. But when you see... What he

01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:21.560
is actually doing – Glenn Beck knows the president,

01:12:21.659 --> 01:12:24.140
and the president always isn't a big fan of Glenn

01:12:24.140 --> 01:12:29.739
Beck. And he said, you know, I talked to the

01:12:29.739 --> 01:12:32.060
president, you know, it was a couple months ago.

01:12:32.300 --> 01:12:34.079
I heard him say that. And he said he has changed.

01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:36.659
He said – Yeah. Because I said, you know, is

01:12:36.659 --> 01:12:39.840
he a believer? Does he really believe God saved

01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:43.640
his life? And I don't think Glenn said that.

01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:48.479
but he said he has changed, and he says, I don't

01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:50.939
care anymore. I'm going to do what I set out

01:12:50.939 --> 01:12:54.140
to do, which is good for our country. And just

01:12:54.140 --> 01:12:59.439
at a high level, lowering our debt, that is underway

01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:03.420
in multiple ways, increasing what's in your pocket

01:13:03.420 --> 01:13:06.319
in middle America, not the elites on the coast,

01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:11.979
which is completely upward wage pressure. So

01:13:11.979 --> 01:13:15.819
maintaining the dollar as this flows into it

01:13:15.819 --> 01:13:19.340
with this, I love to talk about stablecoin one

01:13:19.340 --> 01:13:23.000
day and what all of that means, how the tariffs

01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:26.739
really work. It is to a point, he's already said

01:13:26.739 --> 01:13:29.520
it, that there may come a day, and I would say

01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:32.539
probably right around the midterms, when President

01:13:32.539 --> 01:13:35.579
Trump will send everybody a check for $1 ,000.

01:13:37.519 --> 01:13:40.720
We made this money. It's not borrowed. It came

01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:44.479
from the new policies we put in place. I'm sure

01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:47.699
that above a certain income amount, you won't

01:13:47.699 --> 01:13:51.659
get it. But here's your check, everybody. And

01:13:51.659 --> 01:13:54.640
again, that will be used for political reasons,

01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:58.079
but that's life. That's part of it. And it'll

01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:00.300
have his signature on it and his picture, probably.

01:14:01.140 --> 01:14:04.140
Probably right. Like one of those picture discs.

01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:08.239
Um, but, but the truth is it, it really, he really

01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:12.180
is doing these things. And, and finally, um,

01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:14.779
there's a video going around now, kind of a viral

01:14:14.779 --> 01:14:16.619
video. Please don't go looking for it. Stay off

01:14:16.619 --> 01:14:19.619
your phone. Uh, and it's a whole, I lived in

01:14:19.619 --> 01:14:21.479
London for five years and it's a whole bunch

01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:24.039
of people from the UK. Now, of course it's, it's

01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:26.359
edited, you know, could have been man on the

01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:28.199
street stuff is always deceptive because you

01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:30.859
can make it look like everyone's happy. Everybody's

01:14:30.859 --> 01:14:35.100
sad, but all these Brits. came to America on

01:14:35.100 --> 01:14:38.579
vacation this summer, and they stayed for anything

01:14:38.579 --> 01:14:40.979
from a week to a couple of weeks, and they're

01:14:40.979 --> 01:14:44.779
all saying, you know, it's unbelievable. You

01:14:44.779 --> 01:14:48.199
know, in Britain, all we hear is America's horrible,

01:14:48.420 --> 01:14:51.380
America's racist, it's a dangerous place, it's

01:14:51.380 --> 01:14:54.380
falling apart, it's no good. And every single

01:14:54.380 --> 01:14:58.039
one of them is saying, this country is so great.

01:14:58.340 --> 01:15:02.699
And what they all say is everybody... Wants to

01:15:02.699 --> 01:15:06.579
chat. Wants to say hi. How you doing? What do

01:15:06.579 --> 01:15:09.159
you do for a living? Everyone's grinding away,

01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:10.939
as they'll say. You know, they're trying to get

01:15:10.939 --> 01:15:13.340
something done. They seem to have purpose. And

01:15:13.340 --> 01:15:15.699
I just wanted to pass that on because you can

01:15:15.699 --> 01:15:19.520
get the feeling that we suck. And that's intentional.

01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:22.479
That message is intentional. And there's your

01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:25.399
enemy. There it is. I've lived in a lot of countries,

01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:30.399
and we are, to my experience, the best country.

01:15:30.779 --> 01:15:34.039
to be in, the best country to live in. And they'd

01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:36.279
even have, like, look at the pride these Americans

01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:38.909
have. pride these Americans have with their flag

01:15:38.909 --> 01:15:41.869
on every porch hanging out. You know, they're

01:15:41.869 --> 01:15:43.989
proud to be American. They're proud of where

01:15:43.989 --> 01:15:47.770
they are. Yeah, we are very aware of our shortcomings

01:15:47.770 --> 01:15:51.470
and our issues, which is, of course, what the

01:15:51.470 --> 01:15:55.949
enemy uses to continuously stomp us down, stomp

01:15:55.949 --> 01:15:58.350
us down, stomp us down. So I just want to pass

01:15:58.350 --> 01:16:00.029
on to the people who are listening to Living

01:16:00.029 --> 01:16:03.779
Up in a Down World that we... We live in a great

01:16:03.779 --> 01:16:06.800
place, and we can make it even better. There

01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:08.960
it is. Even better. I'm with you. And it can

01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:12.220
rub off. It can rub off on other countries. And

01:16:12.220 --> 01:16:15.500
we absolutely can do this through the Word of

01:16:15.500 --> 01:16:18.619
God, through Jesus, through following Jesus,

01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.739
living like Jesus. And I've been doing this two

01:16:22.739 --> 01:16:26.100
and a half years now, I think. It's fun, Brother

01:16:26.100 --> 01:16:29.380
Jimmy. It is fun to live this way. We get to

01:16:29.380 --> 01:16:31.579
do this. Yes. I've heard that before somewhere.

01:16:31.579 --> 01:16:33.619
You have some of the best slogans in the world,

01:16:33.699 --> 01:16:36.020
man. You've got a lot of them. I'm a simple guy,

01:16:36.060 --> 01:16:38.399
so I need those simple little reminders. We get

01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:40.859
to do this. This is exactly right. I would love

01:16:40.859 --> 01:16:43.880
to do this with you again. The sooner the better.

01:16:44.100 --> 01:16:47.319
Tina and I were talking last night. We're going

01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:49.579
to do a hiatus for Curry and the Keeper for the

01:16:49.579 --> 01:16:52.829
summer. Oh, a little break. And so, you know,

01:16:52.850 --> 01:16:56.090
maybe you and I will have some time to, you know,

01:16:56.090 --> 01:16:58.250
to do these on a more regular basis. I'm in.

01:16:58.569 --> 01:17:01.270
Because. What we just did was basically have

01:17:01.270 --> 01:17:03.930
a lunch meeting. Yes. This is what we do at lunch.

01:17:03.949 --> 01:17:07.069
Yes. We talk like this. When we have one of those

01:17:07.069 --> 01:17:09.210
rare lunch meetings. Rare by ourselves. Those

01:17:09.210 --> 01:17:11.350
are rare. That's true. And it's not that we don't.

01:17:11.350 --> 01:17:13.829
In fact, we adore our wives. Absolutely. And

01:17:13.829 --> 01:17:15.930
our friends. We hang out with a lot of people.

01:17:15.989 --> 01:17:20.170
We love hanging out. But this is what I crave.

01:17:20.350 --> 01:17:22.569
I don't just miss it. I crave it. I need to do

01:17:22.569 --> 01:17:24.590
these with you. Iron sharpens iron. Amen to that,

01:17:24.609 --> 01:17:25.989
brother. That's what it is. Amen. Well, listen,

01:17:26.109 --> 01:17:28.390
as we land the plane here, I feel like we just

01:17:28.390 --> 01:17:31.250
started the conversation. Yes. So, so let's just

01:17:31.250 --> 01:17:33.130
see where this goes. Okay. Let's, let's have

01:17:33.130 --> 01:17:35.350
a little dream time. Yes. And maybe even some

01:17:35.350 --> 01:17:36.909
of our listeners might have a good suggestion

01:17:36.909 --> 01:17:38.970
about what we do with this. Where do we go from

01:17:38.970 --> 01:17:41.930
here? Yes. Because I want to continue to do living

01:17:41.930 --> 01:17:44.029
up in a down world and that's been sick. We got,

01:17:44.069 --> 01:17:46.409
she got sick that last and she, this is her first

01:17:46.409 --> 01:17:48.689
day back to the office cause she's been so sick.

01:17:48.729 --> 01:17:51.229
So I knew she wouldn't have the voice or energy

01:17:51.229 --> 01:17:53.850
to do this, but we'll continue that and you'll

01:17:53.850 --> 01:17:55.590
continue to carry in the keeper at some point.

01:17:55.630 --> 01:17:59.529
But I'm, I am wide open to whatever God wants.

01:18:00.010 --> 01:18:03.050
Well, he's pushing me. I got a thumb in my back

01:18:03.050 --> 01:18:07.729
on this one. Yeah, exactly. And that's why when

01:18:07.729 --> 01:18:11.170
I got all this, I'm like, I got to reach out

01:18:11.170 --> 01:18:14.329
to Jimmy. We have to do something. If only just

01:18:14.329 --> 01:18:18.350
for ourselves and for me, what we just did here.

01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:20.460
It's for our church. This is for Fredericksburg.

01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:23.220
It's great if we reach other people. Right, right.

01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:25.279
But we have, what do we have, 1 ,100, 1 ,200

01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:28.380
people in the congregation? Yeah, easily. I want

01:18:28.380 --> 01:18:30.539
them also to hear this side of you, brother,

01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:33.859
because I do, because it just seems like it's

01:18:33.859 --> 01:18:36.039
not enough time. Yeah, it's never, and it's always

01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:37.899
different when you're standing up on a platform.

01:18:37.899 --> 01:18:40.859
Of course. As opposed to sitting at a table talking

01:18:40.859 --> 01:18:44.199
and riffing off of one another. By the way, I

01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:48.649
super really hyper enjoyed. You and I being on

01:18:48.649 --> 01:18:50.789
the platform together. That was fun. Each with

01:18:50.789 --> 01:18:53.130
a microphone and riffing off of one another about

01:18:53.130 --> 01:18:55.670
our heart. You from a more technical standpoint

01:18:55.670 --> 01:18:59.210
and visionary standpoint of Godcaster. Me from

01:18:59.210 --> 01:19:02.970
the practical application. And to my visionary

01:19:02.970 --> 01:19:05.750
from the spiritual standpoint of how the potential

01:19:05.750 --> 01:19:08.789
impact of this, of getting the gospel out over

01:19:08.789 --> 01:19:11.800
the airways. And just crushing the prince of

01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:13.340
the power of the air as the scripture calls the

01:19:13.340 --> 01:19:16.319
enemy. Exactly. And just taking back the airways,

01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:18.380
taking it all back. I think that was a part of

01:19:18.380 --> 01:19:20.420
why I came here this morning is because that

01:19:20.420 --> 01:19:23.640
felt good. It did. You know, we look pretty good

01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:25.420
on stage together. We take this thing on the

01:19:25.420 --> 01:19:27.300
road, man. I'm seeing tour buses. Somebody even

01:19:27.300 --> 01:19:29.260
said, a couple people said that to us. You need

01:19:29.260 --> 01:19:33.479
to take that on the road. Well, we'll start small.

01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:36.140
Sounds good, brother. Well, we will do it. We're

01:19:36.140 --> 01:19:39.159
on it. And with that, we are out of here. And,

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man, we cooked on for an hour and 19 minutes.

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I feel like we could do a three -and -a -half

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hour easily. Love you, brother. Love you, too,

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brother. Thank you so much. Glad we get to do

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this. Glad we get to do it together. Amen. All

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right, everybody, have an amazing week on purpose.