WEBVTT 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:05.799 Don't get down when you're seeing the worst. 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:27.129 Cause the last. This is Jimmy Nanette, and we 00:00:27.129 --> 00:00:29.870 are coming to you from our studio in the middle 00:00:29.870 --> 00:00:32.729 of Fredericksburg, Texas. Good morning to you. 00:00:32.869 --> 00:00:35.229 Good morning. It's been a minute. It has. It's 00:00:35.229 --> 00:00:37.350 been a hot minute since we've been on the air 00:00:37.350 --> 00:00:40.630 together and have done a podcast. Yes. I've missed 00:00:40.630 --> 00:00:43.409 this. Well, we've been kind of busy. We've been 00:00:43.409 --> 00:00:45.890 very busy. And traveling. We're going to have 00:00:45.890 --> 00:00:48.520 more. construction going on in the church so 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:50.479 we may have to move it home you know what if 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.399 there's if you hear something if you're listening 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:54.979 today and you hear stuff banging and you won't 00:00:54.979 --> 00:00:56.619 today though they're not doing anything stuff 00:00:56.619 --> 00:00:58.320 out there yeah they are actually they're fixing 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.250 that hole That's true. So, yeah, there's stuff 00:01:00.250 --> 00:01:02.270 going on here all the time. That's just the way 00:01:02.270 --> 00:01:04.730 it is. It's our life. We're always under construction. 00:01:04.810 --> 00:01:06.670 Well, luckily, our office is pretty, or our studio, 00:01:06.750 --> 00:01:09.230 I should say, looks more like a studio than an 00:01:09.230 --> 00:01:10.569 office at this point. Oh, definitely looks like 00:01:10.569 --> 00:01:14.209 a studio. Luckily, we have it pretty soundproofed. 00:01:14.209 --> 00:01:16.230 Yeah. No, it's fantastic. It's just when they're 00:01:16.230 --> 00:01:20.090 above us that that's where it sounds like. A 00:01:20.090 --> 00:01:22.750 freight train. Yeah, and we're doing audio only 00:01:22.750 --> 00:01:25.489 today. Yes. Yeah, I didn't want to have to make 00:01:25.489 --> 00:01:27.870 Faith do all the production side of it. Even 00:01:27.870 --> 00:01:29.650 though she's in here and would do it. She's with 00:01:29.650 --> 00:01:31.549 us, but I didn't want to have to do all that 00:01:31.549 --> 00:01:34.069 production side of it because... Most people, 00:01:34.109 --> 00:01:36.150 hey, somebody's at the door. See, this is our 00:01:36.150 --> 00:01:38.129 life. Yeah, you can answer the door. This is 00:01:38.129 --> 00:01:40.650 totally our life. Hey, it's okay. It is what 00:01:40.650 --> 00:01:42.290 it is. We want to welcome you to Living Up and 00:01:42.290 --> 00:01:45.810 Down World. I think we're on episode number 100. 00:01:45.909 --> 00:01:48.230 You think? I think it's 100. I thought it was 00:01:48.230 --> 00:01:51.450 like. It may be 99. But you don't know. I can 00:01:51.450 --> 00:01:54.269 tell you. I can look it up. So let me see where 00:01:54.269 --> 00:01:59.969 we're at on this. Do you know? No, I'm looking. 00:02:00.090 --> 00:02:02.170 Okay, look. Do you know what episode we're on? 00:02:02.329 --> 00:02:05.670 Do you think it is? I think it's 100. I was thinking 00:02:05.670 --> 00:02:10.150 it was 90. I thought it was 98. We have been 00:02:10.150 --> 00:02:12.849 running and gunning and blowing and going. So 00:02:12.849 --> 00:02:14.750 I'm looking it up right now, going to my dashboard 00:02:14.750 --> 00:02:22.569 here. We are on number 100. We are. Wow. There 00:02:22.569 --> 00:02:24.289 should be like bells going off or something. 00:02:24.370 --> 00:02:26.610 We should have like fireworks going off. 100 00:02:26.610 --> 00:02:31.090 in our busy life. Wow. 100 episodes. Well, we 00:02:31.090 --> 00:02:32.610 finally did it. That's a milestone for us. That 00:02:32.610 --> 00:02:35.330 is a milestone. You're looking particularly spiffy 00:02:35.330 --> 00:02:38.439 this morning. Absolutely gorgeous, as always. 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.280 People are going to tell us to get a room if 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.240 you keep doing that. Room with a view. Room with 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.439 a view. We have a lot of travel. I don't want 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.500 to go into all of our travels, but we did have 00:02:49.500 --> 00:02:53.120 a really big, wonderful, fun weekend. We just 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.879 got back from the K -Love Fan Awards. Someone 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:57.979 asked me, why would you want to go to that? Oh, 00:02:57.979 --> 00:03:00.860 my gosh. Because we get ministered to. This is 00:03:00.860 --> 00:03:05.449 where we can go. And it's not just... It's not 00:03:05.449 --> 00:03:09.990 just concerts. It's actual mostly worship where 00:03:09.990 --> 00:03:13.330 we can go and receive. Whereas when we're here 00:03:13.330 --> 00:03:16.300 at the church. We're thinking about everything 00:03:16.300 --> 00:03:19.620 we're about to do, going to have to do. If the 00:03:19.620 --> 00:03:22.759 music is off, if it's, I mean, there's so many 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.819 things going through our mind when we're here 00:03:25.819 --> 00:03:29.639 that we don't really become fully abandoned to 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:33.199 worship. But we go there and it's like refreshing 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.280 time. But receive. Yeah. And we just need to, 00:03:36.300 --> 00:03:38.199 everybody needs a place where they can go and 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.060 get their buckets filled. Yes. And if you're 00:03:40.060 --> 00:03:42.120 a worshiper, you'll understand it. If you're 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.240 not, you would not understand. But we love music. 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.840 You're a guitar player. Going to play on the 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:49.659 worship team this Sunday for the first time. 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.060 I just did a sound check a little bit ago. Has 00:03:51.060 --> 00:03:52.800 it been a year? It's probably been over a year. 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:54.099 It's probably been about a year since I played 00:03:54.099 --> 00:03:55.840 on the worship team, so I've been missing it. 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.840 But this K -Love Awards, which will be shown 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:02.479 on TBN tomorrow night, we were part of the actual 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:07.099 taping. But we were also, they do a full -on... 00:04:07.920 --> 00:04:10.620 worship, concerts, speaking, all kinds of stuff 00:04:10.620 --> 00:04:12.379 from Friday through Sunday night in Nashville. 00:04:12.379 --> 00:04:14.340 Basically three, two and a half days of music. 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.060 And it's the highlight of our year. We go every 00:04:18.060 --> 00:04:19.120 year. This is our third year. Yeah, it's one 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:20.720 of our favorite things we do. We already are 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.660 signed up for next year. And CeCe Winans was 00:04:24.660 --> 00:04:27.779 probably my favorite. Wow. She is like the queen 00:04:27.779 --> 00:04:31.779 of gospel music. It was phenomenal. She's phenomenal. 00:04:31.779 --> 00:04:35.589 When she does That's My King. Oh. I just I just 00:04:35.589 --> 00:04:38.430 want to fall down. It is so good. And she led 00:04:38.430 --> 00:04:40.750 worship for the church. They actually have a 00:04:40.750 --> 00:04:43.449 church service on Sunday mornings for anyone 00:04:43.449 --> 00:04:45.449 who wants to come. And I mean, the whole place 00:04:45.449 --> 00:04:48.449 was packed out. We were almost on the back row 00:04:48.449 --> 00:04:52.970 and she led worship. So it was reminded me of 00:04:52.970 --> 00:04:56.470 when we were at our church at Bethel World Outreach 00:04:56.470 --> 00:05:00.129 Center. in Nashville and Debbie Winans, who was 00:05:00.129 --> 00:05:02.269 her sister, led worship. And they look just alike. 00:05:02.310 --> 00:05:04.610 They look alike. They sound alike. They both 00:05:04.610 --> 00:05:06.930 sing the same. And so it was like, it kind of 00:05:06.930 --> 00:05:09.910 took us back. It did for me in a good way. But 00:05:09.910 --> 00:05:12.569 she led worship. And then Jonathan, what Jonathan? 00:05:12.790 --> 00:05:16.339 Jonathan Pacluda. Pacluda. He. Did a phenomenal 00:05:16.339 --> 00:05:19.420 message, really spoke. He preached. He's one 00:05:19.420 --> 00:05:22.199 of the pastors. He's from Waco, Texas. He pastors 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:23.379 a Baptist church in Waco. Of course, he's from 00:05:23.379 --> 00:05:25.519 Texas. All good pastors are from Texas. There 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:29.180 we go. And so he spoke, and he's been part of 00:05:29.180 --> 00:05:32.939 a movement called the Unite Us Movement. And 00:05:32.939 --> 00:05:34.860 what it is, it's a group that goes to all these 00:05:34.860 --> 00:05:37.139 college campuses. They've been to 17 college 00:05:37.139 --> 00:05:40.360 campuses in about the last 18 months. Is it out 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.040 of his church or is it just part of a movement? 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.220 It's just part of it. They have several different 00:05:45.220 --> 00:05:47.379 people they bring in to speak and preach. And 00:05:47.379 --> 00:05:52.579 he's done 17 of these. I mean, on Auburn campus, 00:05:52.740 --> 00:05:54.600 all these college campuses. That you're hearing 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:57.120 about. I got to sit down and visit with him for 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.639 a little bit. And I just said, so tell me what's 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:02.379 going on. I mean, what do you think's happening? 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:06.139 He said, it's the gospel and it's Jesus. He said, 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:10.560 God has stirred a hunger for Jesus. and the gospel 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:12.980 of Jesus Christ in the next generation. Which 00:06:12.980 --> 00:06:15.199 is, they're our next leaders, which this is what 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.579 we need. We don't need to regress. We need to 00:06:17.579 --> 00:06:20.639 progress. He said that he, in his meetings, the 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:24.879 17 he's done, he has seen 20 ,000 students give 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.759 their hearts to Christ, come to the altar and 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.259 sign a card saying, I'm giving my life to Jesus 00:06:30.259 --> 00:06:32.939 Christ. They pray to receive Christ there. Then 00:06:32.939 --> 00:06:34.680 they get follow -up materials. Okay, I was going 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:35.959 to say, I hope they're getting discipleship. 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:38.660 They get materials and they plug, this is what's 00:06:38.660 --> 00:06:40.730 needed. about this movement. I read about it. 00:06:40.949 --> 00:06:43.110 One of their hearts is to make sure that students 00:06:43.110 --> 00:06:45.990 get plugged into local churches so they can be 00:06:45.990 --> 00:06:48.529 discipled, so they can grow. Because that was 00:06:48.529 --> 00:06:51.910 the one thing Billy Graham said he regretted. 00:06:52.250 --> 00:06:55.430 He said he did all of these revival meetings, 00:06:55.649 --> 00:06:59.410 but there was no follow -up. Remember him saying 00:06:59.410 --> 00:07:02.589 that before he passed? He said, that's my one 00:07:02.589 --> 00:07:04.990 regret that we didn't do. I would totally agree 00:07:04.990 --> 00:07:07.629 with that. So Jonathan, I was talking to him 00:07:07.629 --> 00:07:09.449 and I asked him about, so he said, yeah, definitely 00:07:09.449 --> 00:07:11.269 the gospel. There's a hunger for the gospel. 00:07:11.329 --> 00:07:15.589 It's new. The people that are leading this movement 00:07:15.589 --> 00:07:19.639 in all the meetings they've done. Boy, I said 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.339 he's done 17. He hasn't done 17. There was. There's 00:07:22.339 --> 00:07:25.220 17 total so far. He's done some of those. He 00:07:25.220 --> 00:07:27.300 saw 20 ,000 people come to Christ. Gosh, just 00:07:27.300 --> 00:07:29.120 in the ones he saw. These are all college students. 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:33.040 In all of the meetings combined, they had over 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.639 80 ,000 young people give their hearts to Jesus. 00:07:36.860 --> 00:07:39.019 That's unbelievable. That is miraculous. It is. 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:41.879 But yet you're not hearing that in the media. 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:43.980 No, you won't see that in the media. CBN reports 00:07:43.980 --> 00:07:46.720 on it and several Christian outlets report on 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.959 it. But really, it's almost an underground movement, 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:51.660 even though it's happening on these campuses. 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:54.560 Wow. I think it's just the beginning. I think 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:56.920 we're seeing the beginning of an end time harvest 00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:00.120 that is going to be not just the great awakening, 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.240 it's going to be the greatest awakening. Or the 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:03.620 greater, I love that. Or the greater or greatest 00:08:03.620 --> 00:08:06.560 awakening where we're going to see hundreds of 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:08.180 thousands of people come to Christ. We need to 00:08:08.180 --> 00:08:08.920 in this day and time. Which right now is happening 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.160 all over the world, by the way. Yes, yes. So 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:14.040 God is moving, as we say, Aslan is on the move. 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:18.120 God is moving in major ways all over. And Jesus... 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.540 He always used an interesting phrase when he 00:08:20.540 --> 00:08:23.279 was talking to not only his disciples, but when 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.600 he was teaching to broader audiences, he would 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:29.100 use this phrase for those who have ears to hear. 00:08:29.180 --> 00:08:32.659 And the reason that's so important is that. You 00:08:32.659 --> 00:08:34.960 can be sitting in a revival, and if you don't 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.320 have ears to hear, you won't even see it. You 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.419 won't even know that it's happening. And a lot 00:08:40.419 --> 00:08:42.860 of the historical revivals, a lot of people didn't 00:08:42.860 --> 00:08:44.500 even know they were in the middle of one. Right. 00:08:45.059 --> 00:08:47.820 And then they read about, oh, wait, we were in 00:08:47.820 --> 00:08:49.659 the middle of one? I didn't even know. History 00:08:49.659 --> 00:08:51.860 tells the story. Because when you're in it, you 00:08:51.860 --> 00:08:53.700 can't see the forest with the trees kind of thing. 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:56.460 But right now, revival is happening across the 00:08:56.460 --> 00:08:58.399 world. And the bottom line is we have to ask 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.620 ourselves, do I want to catch this wave? Yes. 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.139 Do I want to be a part of it? And a lot of people 00:09:04.139 --> 00:09:07.240 don't. And that's part of my heart is to stir 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.399 people's hearts to say, wherever it's happening, 00:09:10.620 --> 00:09:13.700 I want to be that revival looking for a place 00:09:13.700 --> 00:09:15.919 to happen. I want to be the awakening. Well, 00:09:15.980 --> 00:09:18.360 this reminds me, yesterday you posted a post 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:21.360 about this revival happening, and you had great 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.759 positive comments, and then you had that one. 00:09:24.820 --> 00:09:26.960 I actually shared that in my Bible study this 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.230 morning, what that person said. Said that they're 00:09:31.230 --> 00:09:35.710 serving a fake Jesus. I'm like, what? So he's 00:09:35.710 --> 00:09:39.169 judging what this conversion that's happening 00:09:39.169 --> 00:09:40.509 with these young people. Who are giving their 00:09:40.509 --> 00:09:42.789 hearts to God. I'll read it to you. I think this 00:09:42.789 --> 00:09:45.990 is worthy of talking about. I was in shock. So 00:09:45.990 --> 00:09:48.909 I posted, I said, God is on the move like a wave. 00:09:49.389 --> 00:09:51.509 We don't generate the waves. We simply catch 00:09:51.509 --> 00:09:54.149 the waves that God brings our way. And I said, 00:09:54.210 --> 00:09:56.929 I don't want to miss his waves. Revival isn't 00:09:56.929 --> 00:09:59.429 coming. It's already here. I stole that line. 00:09:59.490 --> 00:10:01.909 It's already here from Twister. It's a great 00:10:01.909 --> 00:10:03.730 line. Because you watch that every time we get 00:10:03.730 --> 00:10:06.629 on a plane. And I was waiting for that line, 00:10:06.710 --> 00:10:08.509 just like you were watching. He's hilarious. 00:10:08.769 --> 00:10:10.350 And you were waiting for that line. So anyway, 00:10:10.409 --> 00:10:12.590 here's what this guy said. I'm not going to use 00:10:12.590 --> 00:10:14.850 his name. And I didn't respond to it because 00:10:14.850 --> 00:10:17.399 I don't respond to people who. who have a negative 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:19.720 critical. There's no point. I don't have the 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:23.019 energy for that. Here's what he said. So I shared 00:10:23.019 --> 00:10:28.440 the link from CBN .com. The return to religion 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.340 is a turn to Jesus, even among its skeptics. 00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:34.519 And then it says most of us can't remember a 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:36.899 time when belief in God was growing, but now 00:10:36.899 --> 00:10:40.360 it is. I got a report yesterday. Pastor Brian 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:42.919 brought me that report from Barna Research Group 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:47.259 saying that we're seeing a sharp rise in interest 00:10:47.259 --> 00:10:50.860 in the Bible, in the gospel, in Christianity. 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.539 Christianity itself, not other occult stuff, 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.460 but I mean, literally Christianity is rising 00:10:57.460 --> 00:11:00.580 in America as fast as it's risen in decades. 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.279 So we're seeing good things happen. So this guy 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:06.399 says this, after all this good, positive things, 00:11:06.500 --> 00:11:10.779 he says, sadly, a wave to false Jesus. I'm like, 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:15.019 what? Because after my catching a wave, a wave 00:11:15.019 --> 00:11:18.039 to false Jesus. So what did he mean by that? 00:11:18.460 --> 00:11:21.080 He says, we need to read and even more so study 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:24.320 the Bible rightly divided. Amen. I agree. Definitely. 00:11:24.379 --> 00:11:27.379 We're reading the same Bible, I think. It's funny, 00:11:27.379 --> 00:11:29.700 though, you have different eyes, different perspectives. 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.100 He says, there's a counterfeit coming. It's been 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:35.539 happening since Jesus Christ resurrected. Well, 00:11:35.620 --> 00:11:39.600 we know that. We know that. The Bible doesn't 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.980 say it will get better. So we need to be really 00:11:42.980 --> 00:11:45.500 saved, discerning, and ready. So what does that 00:11:45.500 --> 00:11:46.360 have to do with their conversion? I think he's 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:48.860 looking for a massive downturn and destruction, 00:11:49.100 --> 00:11:52.000 yet we're seeing this great end -time harvest, 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.919 and God's moving. Exactly. Why not get excited 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.820 about that? Instead of throwing buckets of cold 00:11:56.820 --> 00:12:00.120 water on new Christians, why not build them up? 00:12:00.139 --> 00:12:02.080 Why not disciple them? Exactly. Why not get them 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:05.080 in the Bible? So that when the bottom drops out, 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:07.460 you can handle. They'll be ready. Exactly. But 00:12:07.460 --> 00:12:10.580 that was a terrible statement. It is. This is 00:12:10.580 --> 00:12:13.279 a joke. We need to have more of a positive outlook, 00:12:13.299 --> 00:12:16.820 especially when people get saved. I'm going to 00:12:16.820 --> 00:12:18.779 refrain saying what I really think about this. 00:12:19.059 --> 00:12:23.620 Because we can't judge everyone's salvation. 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:26.559 You know what I mean? I mean, there may be people 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.700 that it wasn't real, but. But why not celebrate 00:12:29.700 --> 00:12:32.419 those that are? Why not let God be the judge 00:12:32.419 --> 00:12:33.879 of that, not us? That is just wrong. It's called 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.419 living up in a down world. Right. That's the 00:12:36.419 --> 00:12:39.000 title of our podcast. I mean, really, the idea 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:42.019 is there's so much to be excited about in this 00:12:42.019 --> 00:12:44.500 world. We know the world is off the rails. We 00:12:44.500 --> 00:12:45.879 know things aren't great. But we need to look 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.019 at the positive things and not at the negative 00:12:48.019 --> 00:12:50.799 things. Yes. My gosh. You know, Jesus, the Bible 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:53.559 says he was filled with joy, the oil of joy, 00:12:53.659 --> 00:12:55.960 more than all of his brethren. I mean, he was. 00:12:56.330 --> 00:12:59.149 He was joy. The second fruit of the Spirit is 00:12:59.149 --> 00:13:01.750 joy. I know I say this a lot. I'm a broken record, 00:13:01.830 --> 00:13:05.519 but I just get frustrated when... People can't 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.840 see the good, and they're always looking for 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:09.559 the bad. In our Bible study, we were talking 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:12.539 about how some people— Set that up a little bit 00:13:12.539 --> 00:13:14.220 because not everybody knows what you're talking 00:13:14.220 --> 00:13:16.379 about. Yeah, I'm in a Bible study with a bunch 00:13:16.379 --> 00:13:18.419 of women on Thursday mornings, and we're talking 00:13:18.419 --> 00:13:20.759 about the seven mountains. And today, though, 00:13:20.820 --> 00:13:23.519 we were talking about the mountains of arts and 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.860 entertainment, which is, you know, the arts and 00:13:25.860 --> 00:13:29.440 entertainment world is— there's so much propaganda 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:33.120 in there and just evil. But we were talking about— 00:13:33.419 --> 00:13:35.100 Within this Bible study, we were talking about 00:13:35.100 --> 00:13:38.379 how some people don't believe we're supposed 00:13:38.379 --> 00:13:42.139 to be happy as Christians. And I said, I made 00:13:42.139 --> 00:13:44.600 the comment. I said, well, you know, in the Beatitudes, 00:13:44.620 --> 00:13:46.580 it says, blessed are you, blessed are you, blessed 00:13:46.580 --> 00:13:50.299 are you. That means happy are you. So why would 00:13:50.299 --> 00:13:54.519 God say happy if we're supposed to be sad all 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.409 the time and mad and doom and gloom? No. And 00:13:58.409 --> 00:14:01.230 obviously he wants us to be full of joy. The 00:14:01.230 --> 00:14:05.470 joy of the Lord is our strength. Hello. Joy relates 00:14:05.470 --> 00:14:10.970 to being happy, being full in him and enjoying 00:14:10.970 --> 00:14:15.269 his presence. Joy is enjoying. Think about that. 00:14:15.389 --> 00:14:19.460 And so why would we? I mean, how can we lead 00:14:19.460 --> 00:14:22.659 people to Christ if we're not happy? And if we 00:14:22.659 --> 00:14:25.419 know where we're going. Yes. Why would that not 00:14:25.419 --> 00:14:29.059 light up our circumstances? We have darkness 00:14:29.059 --> 00:14:32.100 here. And right now doesn't mean that we won't 00:14:32.100 --> 00:14:35.360 have it. We have to endure the light of the world. 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.120 So we're light in a dark world. We're up in a 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.580 down world. It's the same thing. Another piece 00:14:40.580 --> 00:14:43.679 of that, which I think is really critical, is 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:47.730 that. First of all, we know that I love what 00:14:47.730 --> 00:14:50.110 Steve Maxwell said when he had his encounter 00:14:50.110 --> 00:14:53.090 with Jesus after he died for 15 minutes. And 00:14:53.090 --> 00:14:55.950 he said, heaven isn't out there. It's not up 00:14:55.950 --> 00:14:59.570 there. It's right here. He just put it over his 00:14:59.570 --> 00:15:02.809 face like it's literally right there. So there's 00:15:02.809 --> 00:15:05.830 so much to live for. There's so much good to 00:15:05.830 --> 00:15:09.500 live for. And there's so much. joy to be had 00:15:09.500 --> 00:15:13.019 and found. The word blessed means happy. It literally 00:15:13.019 --> 00:15:15.399 means that. That doesn't mean goofy. It doesn't 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.779 mean silly. It means there's a joy that penetrates 00:15:18.779 --> 00:15:21.200 the darkness. It's a light that penetrates dark 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:25.059 and it's life giving. Well, and go back to the 00:15:25.059 --> 00:15:27.940 K -Love Awards that we were at. Most of the artists, 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.779 they do a showcase, artist showcase where they 00:15:30.779 --> 00:15:33.779 talk about their songs, where the song came from. 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:38.370 And most of the people, that we heard from these 00:15:38.370 --> 00:15:42.769 artists, their songs reflected a deep, dark place 00:15:42.769 --> 00:15:45.070 they were in, but they were able to come out 00:15:45.070 --> 00:15:49.590 of it because of Jesus. That, that should, that 00:15:49.590 --> 00:15:53.129 to me, that was so, I loved how vulnerable they 00:15:53.129 --> 00:15:56.070 were in telling their, their weaknesses, like 00:15:56.070 --> 00:16:00.519 a Katie. Katie Nicole. Nicole talked about. Ben 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.440 Fuller. Yeah, but Katie talked about her being 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.220 in. She has depression. Depression. She struggles 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:09.960 with chronic pain. And so when she writes her 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:12.399 songs, it's out of that pain, but she's given 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.620 God the glory. And I love that. Ben Fuller, he 00:16:15.620 --> 00:16:19.220 was an addict. 15 years. 15 years. He was in 00:16:19.220 --> 00:16:22.700 the country music world. And now he's become 00:16:22.700 --> 00:16:24.600 a Christian. Now, did that make everything fine? 00:16:24.700 --> 00:16:28.139 No. But now he has a better. outlook. And so 00:16:28.139 --> 00:16:33.220 when he sings, you can feel God in his songs, 00:16:33.220 --> 00:16:35.740 the presence. That's what I love. What they're 00:16:35.740 --> 00:16:38.399 singing about is they've been redeemed from that. 00:16:38.460 --> 00:16:40.860 I noticed something in social media. This is, 00:16:40.860 --> 00:16:43.120 it's always bothered me. I've never verbalized 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.320 it like in the open so much, but if I write a 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.000 post, I do a daily devotional. And if I write 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.799 a post about living a victorious life, I get 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.929 like no likes. I mean, people are like, Because 00:16:54.929 --> 00:16:57.730 people tend to relate more in pain than they 00:16:57.730 --> 00:17:00.590 do in victory. They do. They do in joy. But we 00:17:00.590 --> 00:17:03.190 need to flip the script on that. As believers, 00:17:03.429 --> 00:17:06.410 we've got to grab hold of this fruit of the Spirit 00:17:06.410 --> 00:17:09.970 called joy. First one's love. Second one out 00:17:09.970 --> 00:17:13.569 of the nine is joy. We've got to grab it. And 00:17:13.569 --> 00:17:16.190 sometimes you've got to grab joy by faith. It's 00:17:16.190 --> 00:17:18.690 not a feeling. Right. It's intentional. But it's 00:17:18.690 --> 00:17:21.309 hard. And I can get that. I do too. Yesterday 00:17:21.309 --> 00:17:26.849 we got bad news. We've had issues with their 00:17:26.849 --> 00:17:30.089 kitchen. We've been in the process of rebuilding 00:17:30.089 --> 00:17:32.809 and remodeling our kitchen for a year and a half. 00:17:32.829 --> 00:17:37.450 Almost two years. And the cabinet people went 00:17:37.450 --> 00:17:39.589 out of business, dropped all of our cabinets 00:17:39.589 --> 00:17:44.920 off unfinished, basically. We've been in a dispute 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:47.019 with them, with a credit card company, trying 00:17:47.019 --> 00:17:49.119 to get our money back because we had to pay someone 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.299 else to redo them. And we got news yesterday 00:17:52.299 --> 00:17:57.230 that Citibank is... Siding with them, even though 00:17:57.230 --> 00:18:00.049 we have pictures, we have emails from them. Total 00:18:00.049 --> 00:18:04.950 ripoff. We're out $15 ,000 that we're being stolen. 00:18:04.950 --> 00:18:07.710 Now we have a choice. And so yesterday I wallowed 00:18:07.710 --> 00:18:10.069 in it a little bit because I was mad. I was mad. 00:18:10.470 --> 00:18:12.950 Well, I think I was in shock that now we have 00:18:12.950 --> 00:18:17.049 to pay an extra $15 ,000. No matter what level 00:18:17.049 --> 00:18:22.410 it is. And I was bothered. I literally, I had 00:18:22.410 --> 00:18:24.009 to get to the point, because that's a lot of 00:18:24.009 --> 00:18:26.109 money for us. And what did you hear me say this 00:18:26.109 --> 00:18:28.369 morning? What? What did you say? I don't know. 00:18:28.410 --> 00:18:30.329 I didn't have my coffee, so I don't remember 00:18:30.329 --> 00:18:32.549 everything you said. You're in a fog. You can't 00:18:32.549 --> 00:18:34.390 talk to me when I don't have my coffee. I literally 00:18:34.390 --> 00:18:36.630 said out loud, I forgive them. I release them. 00:18:36.710 --> 00:18:38.789 Yes. I refuse to let them. And we'll let God 00:18:38.789 --> 00:18:41.309 judge them. I'm not going to let their actions 00:18:41.309 --> 00:18:45.509 dictate my mood, my countenance, and I trust 00:18:45.509 --> 00:18:48.980 God. With the outcomes. That He'll return it 00:18:48.980 --> 00:18:50.640 back to us a hundredfold. He'll take care of 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:51.779 it. I don't have to worry about it. And I had 00:18:51.779 --> 00:18:54.039 to, this morning, I had to literally go, God, 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.740 this is in your hands. We're out this money. 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:01.259 I'm asking for you to... Restore that money back 00:19:01.259 --> 00:19:04.359 to us because this was not our fault. None of 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.160 this was our fault. We were listening to Caleb 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.119 this morning, and I love that they said that 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:13.859 there was a survey, and they were asking people 00:19:13.859 --> 00:19:17.500 what their favorite story is in the Old Testament. 00:19:17.819 --> 00:19:20.019 Remember that this morning before we came to 00:19:20.019 --> 00:19:22.779 work? And I told you my favorite story is Joseph. 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:25.119 Oh, that's great. And I think it's because Joseph, 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:27.579 he didn't do anything wrong, although I'm a sinner. 00:19:27.700 --> 00:19:29.710 I've done a lot of things wrong. in my life, 00:19:29.730 --> 00:19:32.890 even as a Christian, but he had not. And yet 00:19:32.890 --> 00:19:36.289 he was wrongly accused. He was, he was enslaved. 00:19:36.470 --> 00:19:39.549 He was put in a, you know, a pit. He was enslaved. 00:19:39.670 --> 00:19:42.970 He was put in prison, falsely accused of rape, 00:19:43.029 --> 00:19:47.009 and he was put in prison. But in the end, God. 00:19:47.950 --> 00:19:51.690 restored him a hundredfold and he became second 00:19:51.690 --> 00:19:54.569 in command in his nation. And I think that's 00:19:54.569 --> 00:19:56.609 how I ended well, he finished strong, he finished 00:19:56.609 --> 00:19:59.430 strong because he didn't give up. And I feel 00:19:59.430 --> 00:20:03.589 like for me, I, in thinking about hearing, you 00:20:03.589 --> 00:20:08.470 know, Caleb talk about, um, people's, you know, 00:20:08.470 --> 00:20:12.720 their old Testament. favorite. And I thought 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:14.759 about that. I'm like, Lord, why did I think that? 00:20:14.819 --> 00:20:16.660 And I think it's because of where we're at right 00:20:16.660 --> 00:20:19.539 now. We didn't do anything wrong. We didn't cause 00:20:19.539 --> 00:20:21.720 our cabinet people to go out of business and 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:24.640 to not finish our project. And yet we're out 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:28.259 and then lie that they did. And yet here we're 00:20:28.259 --> 00:20:30.579 out 15 ,000 because we had to pay someone else. 00:20:30.740 --> 00:20:34.099 And I'm like, Lord, you, you're our redeemer. 00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:37.119 There it is. You're, you can restore this. And 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:42.029 I had to switch the, I mean, I had to flip the 00:20:42.029 --> 00:20:46.190 switch on, okay, God, we're going to walk in 00:20:46.190 --> 00:20:49.730 joy in this, even though it's hard. It's not 00:20:49.730 --> 00:20:53.529 fair. It is not fair. Now you sound like a teenager. 00:20:53.930 --> 00:20:55.869 But, you know, someone asked me, well, can you 00:20:55.869 --> 00:20:57.869 get an attorney and can you sue? Well, yeah, 00:20:57.950 --> 00:20:59.690 it would probably cost more money than it would 00:20:59.690 --> 00:21:02.150 be what we lost. It wouldn't be worth the effort. 00:21:02.529 --> 00:21:06.930 But as Christians, this is the difference. As 00:21:06.930 --> 00:21:10.609 worldly people, we could just... bad mouth and 00:21:10.609 --> 00:21:14.829 we could go online and put them down and call 00:21:14.829 --> 00:21:18.069 them out. Or we can say, you know what? God is 00:21:18.069 --> 00:21:20.250 going to redeem this. We don't know how. We don't 00:21:20.250 --> 00:21:23.190 know how He's going to restore $15 ,000 to us. 00:21:24.089 --> 00:21:26.630 Can I get the word on this? Yeah, get the word 00:21:26.630 --> 00:21:29.210 on it. Let's get the word on this. The thing 00:21:29.210 --> 00:21:32.950 is, what we're talking about right now, everybody 00:21:32.950 --> 00:21:36.650 can put their own story into that because everyone's 00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:39.460 had stuff happen. Whatever they've been lied 00:21:39.460 --> 00:21:42.119 about, they got unjustly fired. I mean, all kinds 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:44.980 of house burned down. We've all got stuff, right? 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:46.940 Where things happen and it's like, it wasn't 00:21:46.940 --> 00:21:49.680 your fault. You didn't cause any of it. You just 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.140 happened to be the recipient of it. Here's what 00:21:52.140 --> 00:21:54.440 Psalm 91, I've been spending a lot of time in 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:57.539 Psalm 91. That's been my go -to. Those who live 00:21:57.539 --> 00:22:01.319 in the shelter of the Most High will find rest 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:04.220 in the shadow of the Almighty. You know, we heard 00:22:04.220 --> 00:22:06.980 this a lot at K -Love too. We did. And you know, 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.680 you don't go to K -Love and experience everything 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:13.220 we experienced. Come back home, get bad news, 00:22:13.299 --> 00:22:16.180 and then go back to the way we used to be. No, 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:19.420 we can't. That's why those experiences that we 00:22:19.420 --> 00:22:23.740 have. that lead us to Psalm 91 should help us 00:22:23.740 --> 00:22:27.160 be able to overcome this rather than sit in it. 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:28.759 Wait a minute. You're talking about living in 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:30.740 victory. We will get no likes on this podcast. 00:22:31.059 --> 00:22:33.539 We won't. That's true. Yeah. We're trying to 00:22:33.539 --> 00:22:36.640 overcome. It's so hard. It is hard. And that's 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.019 the thing. But it doesn't mean we don't have 00:22:38.019 --> 00:22:40.529 hard times. Let me say it this way. It's simple, 00:22:40.829 --> 00:22:43.430 but it's not easy. Simple doesn't mean easy. 00:22:43.509 --> 00:22:46.369 But to choose victory, to choose blessing, to 00:22:46.369 --> 00:22:49.430 choose joy when everything is happening around 00:22:49.430 --> 00:22:52.509 you, screaming, run the other way, or quit, or 00:22:52.509 --> 00:22:55.849 give up, or end it. And that's the fight we're 00:22:55.849 --> 00:22:59.660 in. The Apostle Paul told young Timothy, he said, 00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:02.880 fight the good fight of the faith. And the thing 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.960 is, we all have a fight to fight. We have many 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.140 of them and there's many battles. We know that 00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:09.940 ultimately the war has been won. Jesus died on 00:23:09.940 --> 00:23:13.000 the cross. He took the keys of hell, death and 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:14.940 the grave from the enemy, the keys of the kingdom. 00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:17.559 And he took them away and he's given them to 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:20.759 us. But now this is where we have to fight our 00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:23.380 own battles. Jesus had to go through his temptation. 00:23:23.660 --> 00:23:27.650 He had to go through his being unjustly. accused, 00:23:27.710 --> 00:23:31.549 being slandered, being betrayed by some of the 00:23:31.549 --> 00:23:34.420 people closest to him. He had to go through his. 00:23:34.500 --> 00:23:36.960 We're going through ours. Now the question is, 00:23:37.019 --> 00:23:38.940 what will we choose? Because this comes down 00:23:38.940 --> 00:23:42.319 to a choice. It comes down to a decision. It 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.240 doesn't come down to how you feel. If we operate 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.019 out of our feelings, we'll be blown like a West 00:23:48.019 --> 00:23:51.339 Texas spring wind, which can be 60 miles an hour 00:23:51.339 --> 00:23:54.039 with these storms we've been having. And you're 00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:56.740 just blown back and forth. But when you choose 00:23:56.740 --> 00:24:00.279 and you say, no matter what it feels like, I 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:05.380 choose this. My heart says, choose the right 00:24:05.380 --> 00:24:07.759 thing. My head wants to go the other way because 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.160 my head's subject to my flesh. But my heart knows 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.319 and trusts that God is good. No matter what, 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:17.779 I can with my mouth say, I forgive them. I release 00:24:17.779 --> 00:24:21.859 them. And I release them to God. And I take it 00:24:21.859 --> 00:24:25.599 another step. I bless them. And when I bless 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.380 them, I place them under God's canopy of justice. 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:32.619 God's canopy of righteousness, God's canopy of 00:24:32.619 --> 00:24:35.740 truth, and now He's the judge, not me. Right, 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:38.579 exactly. Which means we can't come in the aftermath 00:24:38.579 --> 00:24:43.599 of being stolen from and badmouth them if we 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.779 say we forgive, release, and bless. Right, exactly. 00:24:46.779 --> 00:24:48.980 Does that make sense? This sounds impossible, 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:52.240 and in your mind and in your flesh, it is. But 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:56.279 this is part of our spiritual growth. Yes. It's 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:59.759 very telling about your growth. how you respond 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.940 to things like this that happens, betrayal or 00:25:02.940 --> 00:25:06.900 injustice or anything like that. And I want to 00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:13.079 be found faithful. Yes. And yet it's hard because 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.690 we're human and we're... We're not happy. This 00:25:15.690 --> 00:25:19.130 was a huge setback. Right. But I really felt 00:25:19.130 --> 00:25:21.289 like even today, because, you know, I had my 00:25:21.289 --> 00:25:24.029 day yesterday where I was just very somber. I 00:25:24.029 --> 00:25:26.829 didn't really, I just was somber. Your brownie 00:25:26.829 --> 00:25:30.549 mix day. My brownie mix. Because I was in shock. 00:25:31.109 --> 00:25:33.970 And today I felt like the Lord said, it's only 00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:36.529 money, even though it's like, it's only money. 00:25:36.630 --> 00:25:37.509 It's a chunk of change. It's a chunk of change. 00:25:37.509 --> 00:25:39.250 But you know what, at the end of the day in the 00:25:39.250 --> 00:25:41.690 big picture, it's not going to matter. Yeah. 00:25:42.650 --> 00:25:44.450 Not going to matter. Yeah. It's funny because 00:25:44.450 --> 00:25:47.849 I opened up the mail yesterday and there was 00:25:47.849 --> 00:25:49.589 a letter in there and it was from, I didn't know 00:25:49.589 --> 00:25:53.490 I had a 401k. I guess I just started it when 00:25:53.490 --> 00:25:56.390 I worked. Back in the day. Franklin Dental Care. 00:25:56.569 --> 00:25:58.930 And I got a thing from Vanguard saying, if you'll 00:25:58.930 --> 00:26:00.869 send this in, we tried to send you a check in 00:26:00.869 --> 00:26:04.589 2017. I was hoping it was $15 ,000. It was $99. 00:26:05.170 --> 00:26:09.839 But I'm like, okay, there's a 99. of the $15 00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.460 ,000. Okay, God, this is a sign. I was thinking, 00:26:13.619 --> 00:26:16.420 because that came out of nowhere. We're talking, 00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:19.359 what, nine years ago, eight years ago. I'm like, 00:26:19.500 --> 00:26:23.980 what? I mean, that's pretty crazy. And so I was 00:26:23.980 --> 00:26:27.000 like, okay, God, He can get it to us somehow. 00:26:27.299 --> 00:26:28.380 He can get us that money. So think about what 00:26:28.380 --> 00:26:32.500 the enemy intends. Speaking of Joseph, what a 00:26:32.500 --> 00:26:34.440 great line at the end of that story. It says, 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:38.490 what the enemy intended to destroy. God is used 00:26:38.490 --> 00:26:40.890 for good. And that's what the, you know, so the 00:26:40.890 --> 00:26:43.150 enemy, we come off of this weekend, we're high, 00:26:43.289 --> 00:26:45.869 we're, our buckets are full and overflowing. 00:26:45.890 --> 00:26:48.109 We're like singing the songs in our head. We're 00:26:48.109 --> 00:26:51.529 replaying the moments. Yeah. And then boom, we 00:26:51.529 --> 00:26:54.529 just get this news like out of nowhere, left 00:26:54.529 --> 00:26:58.369 field. I felt this, remember all weekend at the 00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:00.869 Caleb, I felt this darkness. Remember I told 00:27:00.869 --> 00:27:03.910 you, and I talked about it with the Currys because 00:27:03.910 --> 00:27:07.940 they went with us, this heaviness. And I, I wasn't 00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:10.960 sure. I just had a lot of things inside that 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.980 have been hanging over us, mainly our kitchen. 00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:19.339 It is still not done, still not done. And I think 00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:22.539 subconsciously it was worrying whether this is 00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:26.220 because they credited the monies back to the 00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:30.240 Citibank card, but they hadn't given a letter 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.960 saying it was complete. And then now. One day 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.940 from the deadline. Wow. One day. One day from 00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:38.960 the deadline. It's been, what, six months? Six 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.579 months. We get the bad news. Now, we can take 00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:44.720 that and go cry. You had your cry yesterday. 00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:47.680 I didn't cry, but I almost did. Like I said, 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:53.160 I think I was in shock. Or we can say, not today, 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.910 Satan. Yeah. No. No, we will not give over our 00:27:56.910 --> 00:27:59.089 joy to that. Right. Just like I wouldn't give 00:27:59.089 --> 00:28:01.210 my joy over to that guy who wrote that stupid 00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.529 comment. Yeah. I'm not going to give my joy over 00:28:03.529 --> 00:28:05.250 that. I mean, he's the guy who makes all of us 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:06.890 look bad. You know what I mean? Right. I'm not 00:28:06.890 --> 00:28:09.410 going to give away my heart to that. Right. And 00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:11.930 make room for that in my mind or my heart or 00:28:11.930 --> 00:28:14.990 my head. And so how, okay, so we've talked about 00:28:14.990 --> 00:28:18.609 this. Let's talk about this practical. So what's 00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:21.509 our go -to? How do we, when you get news like 00:28:21.509 --> 00:28:23.809 that and you're reeling from it because you're 00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:26.069 trying to process it all because it was just 00:28:26.069 --> 00:28:28.609 wrong at the end of the day, how do we turn the 00:28:28.609 --> 00:28:32.329 corner to find that victory? I went to the Word. 00:28:32.490 --> 00:28:34.710 I went to the Word of God. Now, I didn't just 00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:37.369 go get my Bible out and start looking. I just 00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:39.950 began to remember scriptures in my head. And 00:28:39.950 --> 00:28:43.059 the biggest one was... Forgiveness. Well, and 00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:44.539 one of the things I do. I don't want to be in 00:28:44.539 --> 00:28:46.319 a prison of my own making. Right. One of the 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.000 things I do is I go back to where God's been 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.480 faithful in the past. Yes. Because we have history 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.380 with God. If you've never had history, you can't 00:28:56.380 --> 00:28:59.779 go back. And some people have to start. But we've 00:28:59.779 --> 00:29:02.660 had history in God where he's restored when we've 00:29:02.660 --> 00:29:05.740 lost. And he's restored everything. And I just, 00:29:05.779 --> 00:29:08.759 I have to go, God, you did it before. Yeah. I 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.400 know you'll do it again. Very good. The founding, 00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:14.019 the building block or the foundation of faith 00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:16.180 is trust. Yeah. And that's what you're saying. 00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.920 He's trustworthy. He's trustworthy. If he's worthy 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.660 of our trust, then he should be worthy of our 00:29:21.660 --> 00:29:24.059 trust when things don't look good. Right. And 00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:25.640 that means when you get the bad news. Because 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.579 he's good all the time. He's not only good when 00:29:27.579 --> 00:29:30.079 we want it, when we, when he's good to us or 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.720 when, when things are going well, he's good. 00:29:33.130 --> 00:29:35.289 All the time. It's easy to be, oh, yeah, yay, 00:29:35.390 --> 00:29:37.849 God, when things are going well. But when the 00:29:37.849 --> 00:29:40.490 bottom drops out and you wake up the next day 00:29:40.490 --> 00:29:42.150 like we did this morning, we went on our walk 00:29:42.150 --> 00:29:44.410 this morning, and I said, I choose to forgive. 00:29:44.690 --> 00:29:47.680 And I said, I choose. I didn't say I feel like 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.380 forgiving them. I said I'm making a choice to 00:29:50.380 --> 00:29:51.599 forgive. And I don't know if it's the cabinet. 00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:53.960 People were at Citibank. I think it's Citibank. 00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:56.279 I don't think the cabinet people ever responded 00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.940 because Citibank said last week and never heard 00:29:58.940 --> 00:29:59.420 from them. So we don't even know who to be mad 00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:00.759 at, right? Yeah, exactly. If we wanted to be 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:01.599 mad, we don't even know who to be mad at. I think 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.339 I'm mad at the Visa company. I'm mad at the devil. 00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:06.220 Well, yeah, I'm mad at the devil, too. In the 00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.329 words of Striper and one of their... Best Songs 00:30:08.329 --> 00:30:10.710 Ever to Hell with the Devil. Oh, my gosh. That's 00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:12.309 the name of the song. Wow. It's the name of the 00:30:12.309 --> 00:30:14.930 album, too. It is. So, yeah, check it out. Probably 00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:18.670 from 1989. But anyway, back in the day. You should 00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:21.289 play a little clip of it. Oh, my gosh. Well, 00:30:21.450 --> 00:30:23.690 yeah. You could. I maybe have it on a ringtone, 00:30:23.789 --> 00:30:26.970 probably. It probably is. Anyway, so I want to 00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:30.009 end the show today, our podcast, talking about 00:30:30.009 --> 00:30:32.730 what do you do? So you turn to things like your 00:30:32.730 --> 00:30:35.069 history in God. That's a great one there. I love 00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:36.829 that. I remember when we heard that years ago. 00:30:37.289 --> 00:30:40.289 where we have to understand if God brought me 00:30:40.289 --> 00:30:43.049 this far, he's not brought me this far to abandon 00:30:43.049 --> 00:30:45.269 me or to let me fall. Well, our first history 00:30:45.269 --> 00:30:47.529 of God is when we got saved. Oh, yeah, totally. 00:30:47.609 --> 00:30:50.190 That's it. So, I mean, you can't say I don't 00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:52.089 have a history with God. And if nothing else 00:30:52.089 --> 00:30:54.410 happened, the fact that I'm going to heaven instead 00:30:54.410 --> 00:30:57.170 of hell, that should be enough. That is an indication. 00:30:57.390 --> 00:30:59.839 Man. God's work. You can bank on that. Yeah, 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.299 exactly. Maybe we've got to put up with some 00:31:02.299 --> 00:31:04.779 stuff in the in -between, living here in this 00:31:04.779 --> 00:31:07.819 fallen world, down world as we call it. But at 00:31:07.819 --> 00:31:10.440 the end of the day, He's good. He's faithful. 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.680 So the faithfulness of God, the trustworthiness 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.019 of God, the goodness of God, then that's something 00:31:16.019 --> 00:31:18.740 you've got to decide before the bottom drops 00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:21.880 out or before you get the news, the news that 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.289 we got or anything in your life. Because stuff 00:31:25.289 --> 00:31:27.829 happens in this world, and it's not always fair, 00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:30.150 and it doesn't always add up. And if you've already 00:31:30.150 --> 00:31:33.130 decided God's good, you've already decided, I 00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:35.170 refuse. I love what Michael W. Smith said a number 00:31:35.170 --> 00:31:36.910 of years ago in one of the documentaries we saw. 00:31:37.009 --> 00:31:39.269 He said one of the things, one of his number 00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:43.069 one things is, I refuse to ever be offended again 00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:47.049 in my life. I refuse to be offended. I will be 00:31:47.049 --> 00:31:49.230 unoffendable. Right. I don't know if you remember 00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:51.829 that. I do. I will never forget it. I refuse. 00:31:51.930 --> 00:31:53.289 I will never be offended again. Because we can 00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:55.759 receive that. offense, but we can do something 00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.880 with it. And that is just to throw it out and 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.819 not allow us, we don't live and dwell in it. 00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:03.079 Not carry it. And this is an offense to us to 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:06.299 be ripped off. So we have a choice. Do we carry 00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:08.559 it or do we reject it and drop those seeds to 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.900 the ground and say, no way, not today, Satan. 00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:14.339 Yeah, that's good. That's real. That's victorious 00:32:14.339 --> 00:32:16.960 living. That's living up in a down world. That's 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.559 living as though you're blessed instead of cursed. 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.430 I'm happy. Yeah. Are you happy? I'm hungry right 00:32:24.430 --> 00:32:27.210 now. You're hungry. I'll be happy when I get 00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:28.349 some food in my belly. We do have some people 00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:30.950 to thank. Yes. Steve Wise. What a wonderful night. 00:32:31.170 --> 00:32:32.710 You've got to share this. We went to dinner last 00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:35.809 night with one of our listeners. He and his wife, 00:32:35.970 --> 00:32:39.690 Steve and Stephanie Wise, came in town, asked 00:32:39.690 --> 00:32:42.630 us and the Currys to pick our favorite steak 00:32:42.630 --> 00:32:44.589 place or barbecue place. Our favorite barbecue 00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:47.069 place was not having barbecue last night, so 00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:50.599 we chose a steak place. And he blessed us. They 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.039 blessed us with a wonderful meal. And we got 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.759 to hear their story and who they are. And he 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.119 does technical for Lyle Lovett. Well, what he 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.230 is, he's the front line sound guy. For Lyle Lovett. 00:33:03.269 --> 00:33:05.609 It has been for years. In fact, when we asked 00:33:05.609 --> 00:33:07.630 him, what do you do? Because we were just meeting 00:33:07.630 --> 00:33:10.150 him for the first time. But they've been a faithful 00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:13.190 giver. Thank you, Steve. I didn't put it together 00:33:13.190 --> 00:33:16.529 last night until you drove off and I went, that's 00:33:16.529 --> 00:33:18.950 Steve Wise. He's the one who's been giving to 00:33:18.950 --> 00:33:21.869 us monthly. And we want to thank you for that, 00:33:21.910 --> 00:33:23.789 especially right now. Thank you for the 60 -ounce 00:33:23.789 --> 00:33:25.789 ribeye last night, too. That was amazing. But 00:33:25.789 --> 00:33:29.450 when we asked him what he did and he said he 00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:32.440 worked technical for Lyle Lovett, I was expecting 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.799 him to laugh like it was a joke. But it was true. 00:33:35.940 --> 00:33:37.559 That's what he does for a living. That's why 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.559 they're in Texas. I was like, oh. They live in 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.140 Las Vegas. They're visiting Texas. But it took 00:33:42.140 --> 00:33:44.079 a little time for vacation to come over and hang 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.460 out with us and the Currys. But also, they've 00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:49.079 got a show coming up with Lyle. With Lyle Lovett 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.180 in Tomball. Starting a new tour in Tomball. And 00:33:52.180 --> 00:33:55.259 then she works for Cirque du Soleil. How do you 00:33:55.259 --> 00:34:01.160 say that? Circus. Yeah. Did I say it right? Oh, 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.519 okay. It is French. It is French, and I'm from 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.599 West Texas, so that won't happen. And she's worked 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.699 for them for 23 years, she said. She's a technical 00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:11.349 director for them. It was a delight. to meet 00:34:11.349 --> 00:34:14.570 them and get to spend time. I wish we would have 00:34:14.570 --> 00:34:17.269 connected who they were while we were sitting 00:34:17.269 --> 00:34:20.250 there instead of when they drove off because 00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:22.550 it didn't, I knew you had talked to him through 00:34:22.550 --> 00:34:25.690 email, but we, I didn't connect that they're 00:34:25.690 --> 00:34:29.150 the ones who've been faithful listeners and givers 00:34:29.150 --> 00:34:32.690 and Steve, Stephanie, thank you. If you're listening 00:34:32.690 --> 00:34:34.789 to this, which I hope you are, I know you are. 00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.769 Um, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That dinner 00:34:37.769 --> 00:34:40.500 was next time you come in. It's our time to buy. 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.079 It's our treat next time. So, but thank you. 00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.579 It was a blessing. It was such a blessing. Who 00:34:45.579 --> 00:34:47.800 else? James Barron. He's a, he's a regular giver. 00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:50.679 Adam Curry. I saw he boosted us again. I mean, 00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:54.199 Adam Curry's a regular giver and just our best 00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.039 friend ever. Yes. And that's who we went to Caleb 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.019 with. And we're going to Florida with them in 00:34:59.019 --> 00:35:00.820 July. We travel with our besties. Yeah. You know, 00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:03.260 there's, it's, travel's not always easy with 00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:06.289 everybody. We've had one of those trips. Well, 00:35:06.309 --> 00:35:09.050 we've decided that the K -Love trip is just us 00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:11.829 four and no more. We are not inviting other people. 00:35:11.949 --> 00:35:14.789 That is a special time. It's so hard to corral 00:35:14.789 --> 00:35:16.929 a lot of people. It's hard to get six people 00:35:16.929 --> 00:35:19.929 to sit at a table anywhere. And so that's kind 00:35:19.929 --> 00:35:25.170 of our secret vacation, yearly vacation. We all 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:29.409 signed up again. It's just beautiful. I highly 00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:31.289 recommend you watching the awards tomorrow night. 00:35:31.289 --> 00:35:33.769 So here's my question for you. Yes. Audio or 00:35:33.769 --> 00:35:36.349 video? Well, I like audio because you know me, 00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:39.329 I don't like pictures of myself and videos. Kind 00:35:39.329 --> 00:35:41.349 of leaning towards audio with this and then video 00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:43.250 with the interview. I think that's the way it 00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:45.650 should go because I feel more comfortable when 00:35:45.650 --> 00:35:48.469 I'm not worried about the camera. And when we're 00:35:48.469 --> 00:35:50.949 off in July, we can take one of the rigs home 00:35:50.949 --> 00:35:52.730 and we can do it at the house. Yeah, we'll be 00:35:52.730 --> 00:35:54.949 taking the whole month off in July again. We 00:35:54.949 --> 00:35:56.929 do that every year. Every year. It's our rest 00:35:56.929 --> 00:35:59.730 time. That way we can keep up. I don't like missing. 00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:02.869 Yeah. I feel like we're... Not that we're letting 00:36:02.869 --> 00:36:04.929 people down, but we're not building people up 00:36:04.929 --> 00:36:06.949 that we could. Does that make sense? Yeah. We'll 00:36:06.949 --> 00:36:08.190 try to be more consistent. We're going to be 00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:10.030 more consistent. And I think we can do that on 00:36:10.030 --> 00:36:11.969 the audio side a lot easier. And we're trying 00:36:11.969 --> 00:36:13.849 to keep it to a minimum because we recognize 00:36:13.849 --> 00:36:16.590 your time is valuable. Which, by the way, our 00:36:16.590 --> 00:36:18.949 time's up. Oh, and we want to be, we want to 00:36:18.949 --> 00:36:20.969 value you. I was letting you rock. You're rocking 00:36:20.969 --> 00:36:22.789 and rolling today. Thank you for sharing today. 00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:24.929 You shared some amazing things. It was great. 00:36:24.969 --> 00:36:26.809 And it's just good being on the mic with you 00:36:26.809 --> 00:36:29.929 again and, and reminiscing about an amazing weekend 00:36:29.929 --> 00:36:31.989 where we were very blessed. Very, very blessed. 00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:33.909 So yeah. So Faith, if you'll go ahead and hit 00:36:33.909 --> 00:36:37.980 our outro there. There it is. Well, again, we 00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:40.980 want to thank you for joining us. Episode 100. 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.880 100. Big Mark. Milestone. Living up in a down 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.940 world. We want you to have an amazing day. Yes. 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:47.699 On purpose.