WEBVTT 00:00:03.189 --> 00:00:05.710 Don't get down when you're seeing the worst. 00:00:06.089 --> 00:00:09.789 Cause the last will be the first. What a day, 00:00:09.849 --> 00:00:14.509 I'm telling you. All things will be new. Living 00:00:14.509 --> 00:00:18.730 up in a down world. Yeah, we're living. Yeah, 00:00:18.750 --> 00:00:24.129 we're living. Living up in a down world. Oh! 00:00:24.910 --> 00:00:28.489 This is Jimmy, and surprise, shock, and awe. 00:00:28.710 --> 00:00:31.980 And Annette is with us today. And I got to tell 00:00:31.980 --> 00:00:34.039 you, we want to welcome you to Living Up in a 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.380 Down World, which is exactly what we are doing 00:00:36.380 --> 00:00:38.719 today. By the way, we spent a few minutes in 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.280 prayer right before I hit the show button and 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.159 the record button because we want to always be 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:47.060 in the right mindset. We want to pray for you 00:00:47.060 --> 00:00:51.000 and pray that God helps you. literally live up 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.219 in a down world. How you doing girl? It's so 00:00:53.219 --> 00:00:56.500 good to see you on the mic. You act like you 00:00:56.500 --> 00:00:59.039 never see me. I know it's been a minute. It has 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:01.420 been a minute. You've been doing a lot of interviews 00:01:01.420 --> 00:01:03.460 though. A lot of interviews, a lot of conversations 00:01:03.460 --> 00:01:05.900 as we call them. I like conversations better 00:01:05.900 --> 00:01:08.500 than interviews. That's true. Think about what 00:01:08.500 --> 00:01:10.120 that's saying because it's really like we're 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:13.379 having a cup of coffee together and getting into 00:01:13.379 --> 00:01:16.129 the heart life of people. You know, the people 00:01:16.129 --> 00:01:18.250 I've had on, it's been very interesting. Rick 00:01:18.250 --> 00:01:20.590 Green of the Patriot Academy, Chris Denham of 00:01:20.590 --> 00:01:23.790 the Patriot Academy, and also sidekick of Zig 00:01:23.790 --> 00:01:27.170 Ziglar for 20 -plus years. Adam Curry. Adam Curry. 00:01:27.370 --> 00:01:30.530 Oh, my gosh. The podfather himself. Stephen Beverly 00:01:30.530 --> 00:01:32.969 Maxwell. Stephen Beverly Maxwell. We'll release 00:01:32.969 --> 00:01:35.430 that tomorrow. Is this Thursday? Today's Thursday. 00:01:35.450 --> 00:01:37.750 Okay, we'll release that tomorrow. That'll be 00:01:37.750 --> 00:01:39.650 on video and audio. And the next week you're 00:01:39.650 --> 00:01:42.629 having Luke Coffey. Oh, Luke Coffey, Jay Sixer. 00:01:42.730 --> 00:01:45.680 Oh, my gosh. What a great guy. He actually went 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.599 to prison, didn't he? Is that right? He went 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:51.060 to prison. He did, yes. So we'll get to talk 00:01:51.060 --> 00:01:53.680 to someone who actually... experience that you 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.040 will. And he's fire too. I mean, he is in love 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.879 with Jesus. His dad's a pastor, now does prison 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.540 ministry. Luke said, the only time I did, I was 00:02:01.540 --> 00:02:04.959 ever in prison up until J6 happened was I was 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.079 going into minister to inmates. I never thought 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:08.819 I'd be sitting on the other side of those bars. 00:02:08.939 --> 00:02:11.219 Unbelievable. But it changed his life. Changed 00:02:11.219 --> 00:02:14.039 his life. He's super godly. He is very strong. 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:16.479 And now he's the executive producer for Lara 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:19.699 Logan's Going Rogue podcast, which has been great. 00:02:19.939 --> 00:02:23.030 We really enjoyed that. episode we heard what 00:02:23.030 --> 00:02:26.689 was her name Alonka Alonka Alonka Deaton I don't 00:02:26.689 --> 00:02:29.150 remember the last name but she's South African 00:02:29.150 --> 00:02:31.569 now lives in the states yes Laura Laura and Joe 00:02:31.569 --> 00:02:34.250 came to church Sunday for the first time and 00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:37.810 I overheard Brian Mandel talk to Laura about 00:02:37.810 --> 00:02:42.629 her podcast and how it impacted him and as soon 00:02:42.629 --> 00:02:45.409 as they their conversation ended I went over 00:02:45.409 --> 00:02:46.789 to Brian I'm like what are you talking about 00:02:46.789 --> 00:02:50.250 and he said Laura has a new podcast called Going 00:02:50.250 --> 00:02:53.789 Rogue with Laura Logan. And he said, I actually 00:02:53.789 --> 00:02:56.669 watched it last week and it blew my mind. He 00:02:56.669 --> 00:03:00.050 said it was about a woman from South Africa who's 00:03:00.050 --> 00:03:02.750 in the music industry and she was sex trafficked 00:03:02.750 --> 00:03:06.930 for six years. And so from the time she was 12 00:03:06.930 --> 00:03:11.610 to 18 and it perked up my ears because anytime 00:03:11.610 --> 00:03:15.469 I hear anything like that, I just, I have. My 00:03:15.469 --> 00:03:18.430 heart just goes out to those victims. And so 00:03:18.430 --> 00:03:20.930 I asked you, I said, let's watch this. Because 00:03:20.930 --> 00:03:22.710 I told Laura, I said, you know what? We went 00:03:22.710 --> 00:03:25.069 to lunch with Laura and Joe and Steve and Beverly 00:03:25.069 --> 00:03:28.849 and others, Luke. And I said, I think I'm going 00:03:28.849 --> 00:03:31.490 to go home and watch this. We watched it and 00:03:31.490 --> 00:03:34.509 it blew us away. It was a long, what was it, 00:03:34.590 --> 00:03:37.610 about an hour and a half long? Yeah, about an 00:03:37.610 --> 00:03:40.270 hour and a half. It was riveting. Powerful. And 00:03:40.270 --> 00:03:44.349 what did I do when we ended that? What did I 00:03:44.349 --> 00:03:47.560 say? You said, I need to get her to come speak 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.000 at our ladies event, our annual ladies event. 00:03:50.180 --> 00:03:55.400 Because her story is powerful. So I got the information 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:58.360 to Naomi, which is my assistant. And I said, 00:03:58.419 --> 00:04:01.599 contact this one. Luke Coffey gave us her name 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.620 and number, her cell phone number. And she's 00:04:05.620 --> 00:04:08.729 traveled with women of faith. Oh, right. Yeah, 00:04:08.729 --> 00:04:10.789 she's done a lot. Oh, that's good. And she agreed 00:04:10.789 --> 00:04:14.030 to come. And so our women's event, which we try 00:04:14.030 --> 00:04:18.050 to have, we want at least one big event every 00:04:18.050 --> 00:04:20.870 year. And we're looking at October, November. 00:04:21.930 --> 00:04:23.889 We're going to give her three dates. We have 00:04:23.889 --> 00:04:26.149 it on the calendar, but we told her we are flexible 00:04:26.149 --> 00:04:30.790 because we are so excited about her bringing 00:04:30.790 --> 00:04:36.370 this life of just, it was seduction, manipulation. 00:04:37.579 --> 00:04:42.459 sex trafficking, just horrific, but how she came 00:04:42.459 --> 00:04:47.699 to know Christ because of that and how now she 00:04:47.699 --> 00:04:52.529 gets to go into. events um any anywhere she goes 00:04:52.529 --> 00:04:55.170 she said the lord told her to tell her story 00:04:55.170 --> 00:04:59.050 so that she can get help people get free from 00:04:59.050 --> 00:05:02.089 bondages so let's direct people to that podcast 00:05:02.089 --> 00:05:04.730 because i'm super good lara logan l -a -r -a 00:05:04.730 --> 00:05:07.850 logan and it's called going rogue she's on all 00:05:07.850 --> 00:05:10.089 platforms you can listen to audio or you can 00:05:10.089 --> 00:05:12.709 watch the video yeah in fact we caught it on 00:05:12.709 --> 00:05:16.149 video on youtube and check it out and it's alanka 00:05:16.790 --> 00:05:21.250 I -L -O -N -K -A. I don't know. Alonka, Deeson, 00:05:21.250 --> 00:05:25.750 or Deaton. Anyway, Alonka, that's amazing. I'm 00:05:25.750 --> 00:05:29.490 super excited. It was powerful. I had a two -eyed 00:05:29.490 --> 00:05:32.189 cry watching that. Well, it's crazy because I 00:05:32.189 --> 00:05:36.769 really wanted, yeah, when Luke sent it, he just 00:05:36.769 --> 00:05:41.490 put Alonka. I'll look it up. Last year when we 00:05:41.490 --> 00:05:43.629 had our women's event, because we do a women's 00:05:43.629 --> 00:05:46.110 event once a year. We do many luncheons during 00:05:46.110 --> 00:05:49.189 the year. And we had someone that's written a 00:05:49.189 --> 00:05:54.610 book. Deaton. Deaton, good. We had, she's, they're 00:05:54.610 --> 00:05:57.649 making a movie of her story, her parents' story 00:05:57.649 --> 00:06:04.019 and her story. After that event, I told my team, 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:07.420 I have a wonderful women's ministry team, and 00:06:07.420 --> 00:06:09.920 I said, I'd like to do one a year. I'd like to 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.500 have at least one event and bring somebody that's 00:06:13.500 --> 00:06:17.120 either well -known or has a very fantastic story 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:22.300 that shows God is still working. And so we tried 00:06:22.300 --> 00:06:25.600 Lisa Harper. We tried. She's very well -known, 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:30.100 and she just can't do it. And she's very costly, 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:35.319 which bothers me so much if it gets too much 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.740 for a church. But that's okay. She's very well 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:41.620 known, so she's worth every penny. But not for 00:06:41.620 --> 00:06:43.920 our church. I just don't feel like that's where 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.339 we need to put our money. And so when I heard 00:06:46.339 --> 00:06:50.860 this broadcast, I was just like, okay, God, if 00:06:50.860 --> 00:06:53.839 you're in this, you can make this happen. Within 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.839 three days, this happened. So I know it's going 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.220 to be powerful. Now we've got some big planning 00:06:59.220 --> 00:07:03.439 to do, some prayers that need to be said for 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.040 the next six months just to prepare for this. 00:07:06.899 --> 00:07:10.560 I am so excited because her story is riveting. 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:16.759 And I loved watching Laura's response on this. 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:18.639 Oh, it was beautiful. Because Laura was just 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.720 like, well, how can you forgive? She was very 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.399 moved. And it was just like, and she just. Because 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:26.339 of Jesus. And I feel like anybody who watches 00:07:26.339 --> 00:07:30.779 this, if they're on the bubble of stepping over 00:07:30.779 --> 00:07:33.480 the line to become a Christian. Or forgiving. 00:07:33.699 --> 00:07:35.959 Or forgiving. Maybe they've been a Christian 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:37.800 a long time, but they just can't. I feel like 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:40.899 this can be a catalyst to help people get over 00:07:40.899 --> 00:07:44.040 that. And I'm really excited about it. So I know 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:45.399 we weren't even going to talk about that, but 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:49.019 it kind of. To me, this is great. It was impactful. 00:07:49.220 --> 00:07:53.399 And Lara's, her podcast is pretty new. So it's 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:56.519 gaining legs. Of course, she's a phenomenal journalist. 00:07:56.579 --> 00:07:59.240 She's known. So it's going to go great. But yeah, 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.740 we just want to keep building her up and be thankful 00:08:02.740 --> 00:08:05.540 that God's put amazing, amazing people in our 00:08:05.540 --> 00:08:08.379 lives. That's what I love about podcasts. And 00:08:08.379 --> 00:08:11.100 so many people are getting involved in podcasts 00:08:11.100 --> 00:08:13.300 and you're learning a lot. You're not just sitting 00:08:13.300 --> 00:08:17.490 there watching. fake TV, like we, you know, on 00:08:17.490 --> 00:08:20.509 TV scripted, you're actually listening to people's 00:08:20.509 --> 00:08:24.110 story and you're, you're gleaning some, you know, 00:08:24.110 --> 00:08:27.009 nuggets that are so important, especially if 00:08:27.009 --> 00:08:28.870 you find the right people you want to listen 00:08:28.870 --> 00:08:31.410 to. And so we've been, we've been involved in 00:08:31.410 --> 00:08:33.549 listening to a lot of podcasts. And you know, 00:08:33.549 --> 00:08:37.460 we, we never listened to podcasts until. Till 00:08:37.460 --> 00:08:39.399 Adam Curry. I didn't even know what a podcast 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:41.899 was until we met Adam and Tina. When they came 00:08:41.899 --> 00:08:43.860 into our life and we were introduced to their 00:08:43.860 --> 00:08:46.740 podcast from Peggy Layden, our dear, dear friend 00:08:46.740 --> 00:08:51.200 in Chicago. And now it's like. We're doing podcasts 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.860 now. And by the way, you start a video. Now we're 00:08:53.860 --> 00:08:56.700 not video in this one. Not yet. Not yet. We're 00:08:56.700 --> 00:08:58.779 setting up our, we got new equipment, new gear. 00:08:58.860 --> 00:09:00.899 We're setting up and kind of doing some rearranging 00:09:00.899 --> 00:09:03.879 in our studio. But my question for you, Damonette, 00:09:03.940 --> 00:09:10.500 is are you going to do video with me when we 00:09:10.500 --> 00:09:12.259 get ready, when we get everything set up? I'm 00:09:12.259 --> 00:09:14.299 going to think about it. Are you going to pray 00:09:14.299 --> 00:09:15.820 about it? I'm going to pray about it. That's 00:09:15.820 --> 00:09:16.960 even better. I'm going to ask the Holy Spirit 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.019 to speak to you in your sleep. Oh, maybe after 00:09:20.019 --> 00:09:23.419 a facelift or something. So I know I'm just kidding. 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.539 It's hard for me. I'm not one that wants to be 00:09:27.539 --> 00:09:33.500 seen. So I don't mind being heard. God gave me 00:09:33.500 --> 00:09:36.580 a voice, but I don't know. We'll see. So the 00:09:36.580 --> 00:09:39.179 video podcast that we're doing right now, it's 00:09:39.179 --> 00:09:41.539 called Living Up in a Down World Conversations. 00:09:41.779 --> 00:09:44.980 And you can find that on all the platforms and 00:09:44.980 --> 00:09:48.919 now YouTube as well. We've got two up. Two, three 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:51.559 up, two or three up. The good thing is, is you've 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.279 got your daughter who's using all these amazing 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:57.139 three different cameras. Is that correct? So 00:09:57.139 --> 00:10:00.139 it's a little bit more professional than what 00:10:00.139 --> 00:10:03.460 we had at the beginning had anticipated. Here's 00:10:03.460 --> 00:10:05.860 what's fun for me in doing this. Within five 00:10:05.860 --> 00:10:08.000 minutes, I forget we're on camera and just having 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.500 a conversation. It literally is not about a show. 00:10:12.770 --> 00:10:16.210 Well, thank you. You literally preach like we're 00:10:16.210 --> 00:10:17.929 in your living room and you're just having a 00:10:17.929 --> 00:10:21.110 conversation. Yeah. Sometimes I just need to 00:10:21.110 --> 00:10:23.830 say, excuse me, 600 people. I need to go to the 00:10:23.830 --> 00:10:25.350 bathroom. I'll be right back. Right. Excuse me 00:10:25.350 --> 00:10:27.250 just a moment. I can't do that. No, you can't. 00:10:27.250 --> 00:10:28.970 I can't do that in a real conversation. That 00:10:28.970 --> 00:10:30.789 would be funny if you did that in the middle 00:10:30.789 --> 00:10:33.210 of a sermon. Oh, you never know. Anything can 00:10:33.210 --> 00:10:35.970 happen. You never know. You never know. But anyway, 00:10:36.049 --> 00:10:39.909 I'm excited. I'm excited, too. I feel like this 00:10:39.909 --> 00:10:42.690 is the year of reveal. We've learned that through 00:10:42.690 --> 00:10:45.110 politics, through what God's doing, revealing 00:10:45.110 --> 00:10:50.049 the enemy's tactics. He's revealing fraud. He's 00:10:50.049 --> 00:10:53.269 revealing so many things. And to me, it's got 00:10:53.269 --> 00:10:56.029 to be in every area of our lives. He wants to 00:10:56.029 --> 00:10:58.110 reveal. He wants to reveal hidden sin that's 00:10:58.110 --> 00:11:00.429 in our lives. He wants to reveal unforgiveness 00:11:00.429 --> 00:11:02.090 that we may be harboring that we didn't even 00:11:02.090 --> 00:11:05.440 know we're harboring. There's also a positive 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.179 reveal. It's not all negative. No, I know. There's 00:11:08.179 --> 00:11:10.179 the good thing like revival that's breaking out 00:11:10.179 --> 00:11:12.559 literally all over the world right now. Because 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.480 God is revealing himself to people. Exactly. 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.159 That's what I'm saying. It's all good. The light 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.080 is exposing darkness. So the reveal is actually 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:25.019 a positive. It exposes negative, dark things, 00:11:25.100 --> 00:11:28.080 but when those points of light hit it, it's got 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.860 to go, right? Exactly. That's what Steve Maxwell—by 00:11:31.860 --> 00:11:33.899 the way, we had Steve and Beverly in church this 00:11:33.899 --> 00:11:36.779 last Sunday. I want to encourage you, go watch 00:11:36.779 --> 00:11:39.519 that service. But also listen to the podcast 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.299 you did, which is going to be tomorrow. Yeah, 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.899 we released that tomorrow. Because it's a lot 00:11:44.899 --> 00:11:47.179 more depth. He only had a very short time. We're 00:11:47.179 --> 00:11:49.559 having a conversation in the podcast. And so 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:52.289 I think— I wish you would have said that on Sunday 00:11:52.289 --> 00:11:54.710 to the church. Hey, you know this, you're getting 00:11:54.710 --> 00:11:56.789 a snippet, but listen to the podcast. You need 00:11:56.789 --> 00:11:59.350 to do it on Sunday. We'll do it this Sunday that 00:11:59.350 --> 00:12:01.509 if you missed it or you didn't, you only got 00:12:01.509 --> 00:12:03.990 a little bit, go watch the podcast because it's 00:12:03.990 --> 00:12:07.149 very powerful. Their story is changing lives. 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.059 Going to heaven for 15 minutes. You know, I've 00:12:12.059 --> 00:12:14.399 heard of people doing that. Right. 90 minutes 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:17.360 in heaven and all that. But when you meet someone 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:20.120 and you see a change in their life. And you know 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.399 them. And you know them. And their whole life 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.879 has changed. And you could see it. It's very 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:30.519 contagious. But what it did for me, the first 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.139 time I heard a story, which you let them give 00:12:33.139 --> 00:12:36.139 a little snippet in church and second service 00:12:36.139 --> 00:12:39.080 a few weeks ago. I literally had this relief 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:43.799 because he said, you're here one day, and then 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:46.720 you just step into heaven. You just step. It's 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.460 one step over. Actually, it's not just here one 00:12:48.460 --> 00:12:53.059 day. You're here one minute. Exactly. But what 00:12:53.059 --> 00:12:58.580 it did for me, I lost any fear of heaven. I don't 00:12:58.580 --> 00:13:00.120 know that I'm fearful of heaven. Everybody's 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.720 fearful of how we're going to die. But there 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:07.159 was something about it that gave me... excitement 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.940 about going to heaven instead of, uh, I mean, 00:13:09.940 --> 00:13:11.899 if you think about it and when you say this, 00:13:12.019 --> 00:13:14.980 my mind defaults or when he said it, he said, 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.600 I saw all these people, people and everybody 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:20.559 looked young. They don't look old, but they were 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.220 all working. Well, if he would have, I wish he 00:13:23.220 --> 00:13:24.740 would have said working. Cause as soon as he 00:13:24.740 --> 00:13:27.159 said working, I'm like, I don't want to work. 00:13:27.340 --> 00:13:30.120 I'm tired. It's a retirement. Wait a minute. 00:13:30.259 --> 00:13:32.870 But he, but he said, They were working with joy. 00:13:33.210 --> 00:13:39.110 There was no striving. It's joyous, and you're 00:13:39.110 --> 00:13:41.470 loving what you're doing. Yeah, the way he put 00:13:41.470 --> 00:13:43.950 it was there's something to do. There's something 00:13:43.950 --> 00:13:47.490 for everybody to do. He said working, but it 00:13:47.490 --> 00:13:51.009 was more purpose. My mind went to work, really? 00:13:51.129 --> 00:13:52.570 I'm going to have to work the rest of my life. 00:13:52.570 --> 00:13:55.610 That's our retirement plan. Heaven is our retirement 00:13:55.610 --> 00:13:57.110 plan. That's true. Do you have a retirement plan? 00:13:57.169 --> 00:14:01.399 Absolutely, heaven. Talked about the joy and 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.200 the youngness. I love that. How young everybody 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:09.080 was. I was like, oh. I heard a collective moan 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:12.600 from our church, like approval. Yes. Amen. Like, 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:15.240 oh, it's wonderful. What was interesting is they 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:17.299 were in our church, and he actually wanted to 00:14:17.299 --> 00:14:18.980 come to two services. And you said, oh, no, you 00:14:18.980 --> 00:14:21.039 just come to the second. But we had him speak 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:23.019 at the second for a short time, but he didn't 00:14:23.019 --> 00:14:25.820 come to the first. This was a while back. Yeah, 00:14:25.820 --> 00:14:28.700 this was a month ago. And Tina was getting ready. 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:32.059 Tina Curry was getting ready to go see her mom 00:14:32.059 --> 00:14:36.460 and she, her mom's afraid of dying. She's afraid 00:14:36.460 --> 00:14:39.580 of what's next, even though she's, she knows 00:14:39.580 --> 00:14:43.779 who Christ is. She's afraid. And so when Tina 00:14:43.779 --> 00:14:46.220 was telling me that why she's going to go visit 00:14:46.220 --> 00:14:49.320 her mom, I said, Oh my gosh, you didn't get to 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.200 hear Steve and Beverly talk about heaven. And 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.480 she said, What, what happened? She didn't know. 00:14:55.620 --> 00:14:57.539 And I said, yeah, I did a second service. You 00:14:57.539 --> 00:15:00.000 were at first service. So I met, I had her go 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.039 back and listen. And she, she had her mom listen 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:08.039 to that to help her. And I got a text. This is 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:10.100 so cool, Jimmy. I got a text. I don't think you've 00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:12.179 shared this. No, this is, this is in real time. 00:15:12.379 --> 00:15:14.299 Tina wrote this to me just a little bit ago. 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:18.279 Oh, cool. And because she went back to Indiana 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.879 just to see her mom and to witness to her mom. 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.399 She brought her a little Jesus. those little 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:27.120 Jesus, um, little, uh, what do you call those 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:30.539 little ornaments? Yeah. A little figurine. But 00:15:30.539 --> 00:15:32.940 she got this, my brother, and I'm sure she's 00:15:32.940 --> 00:15:34.679 going to say this on her show or probably did 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:36.639 last night already, but I haven't listened to 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.919 her show yet. My brother -in -law told my sister 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.980 this morning that my mom was so much better after 00:15:42.980 --> 00:15:46.659 my visit. He actually said that my visit was 00:15:46.659 --> 00:15:50.659 magical. That is all God. Wow. Isn't that amazing? 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:58.639 That's beautiful. Love that. What is the chance 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.519 that the timing of Steve Cumming, who had just 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.179 in November got to view heaven, a snippet of 00:16:06.179 --> 00:16:09.019 heaven for 15 minutes, and then they revived 00:16:09.019 --> 00:16:11.750 him, I would have said. Lord, no, leave me here. 00:16:11.850 --> 00:16:13.289 I don't want to go back. I don't want to go. 00:16:13.370 --> 00:16:16.330 Yes. But they told him he had work to do, which 00:16:16.330 --> 00:16:18.230 is what he's doing. But what are the chances 00:16:18.230 --> 00:16:20.789 of him coming and then her getting to do that? 00:16:20.929 --> 00:16:22.710 And she was nervous about it. Beautiful timing. 00:16:22.950 --> 00:16:24.870 Because it would be nerve wracking. Especially 00:16:24.870 --> 00:16:29.629 if you've never talked to a loved one about your 00:16:29.629 --> 00:16:34.230 faith and exactly what's happened. That's a cool 00:16:34.230 --> 00:16:37.450 story. Beautiful story. I have a feeling a lot 00:16:37.450 --> 00:16:39.429 of people had to have stories like this based 00:16:39.429 --> 00:16:43.070 on them coming Sunday. After they shared that 00:16:43.070 --> 00:16:45.769 morning, this is a month ago, just that little 00:16:45.769 --> 00:16:48.009 short version, people were coming to me after 00:16:48.009 --> 00:16:49.490 the service because we meet everybody out in 00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:50.970 the Connect Center. We just hang out and it's 00:16:50.970 --> 00:16:53.429 a party out there, like a tailgate party. And 00:16:53.429 --> 00:16:55.370 people were coming to me saying, I want to hear 00:16:55.370 --> 00:16:57.450 more. Or I've had that experience. Yes, yes. 00:16:57.549 --> 00:17:00.389 Several people. And then this Sunday when we 00:17:00.389 --> 00:17:02.370 gave them the whole service, we did it conversation 00:17:02.370 --> 00:17:05.019 style. They were in chairs. It was like a podcast. 00:17:05.140 --> 00:17:07.200 I was in a chair. It was literally like a podcast. 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.559 And we did both services so everybody got to 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:14.000 hear. It was so powerful and moving because the 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:17.849 way he describes heaven. and how literally as 00:17:17.849 --> 00:17:20.289 he went out, I use the words fade to black, as 00:17:20.289 --> 00:17:23.710 he faded to black, he was instantly in the presence 00:17:23.710 --> 00:17:26.069 of God. He said it was like he was in outer space. 00:17:26.109 --> 00:17:28.710 Yeah, literally. He said you could see stars 00:17:28.710 --> 00:17:30.650 and galaxies. He said he didn't see the light 00:17:30.650 --> 00:17:33.009 like a lot of people, they'll say, I go to the 00:17:33.009 --> 00:17:36.630 light. He said when they had conversations, which 00:17:36.630 --> 00:17:38.329 you're going to hear this on the podcast if you 00:17:38.329 --> 00:17:41.829 listen to it today or tomorrow, but he said that 00:17:41.829 --> 00:17:45.049 when people have... conversations it's like through 00:17:45.049 --> 00:17:48.069 your mind you're not verbally talking he said 00:17:48.069 --> 00:17:52.210 so i could hear jesus's thoughts and he could 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:57.549 hear my it's crazy um and i mean just what an 00:17:57.549 --> 00:18:01.119 experience What an experience. And we got to 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:02.500 benefit from it. I've heard the story, I think, 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.559 at this point, about seven or eight times. Yes, 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:07.799 you have. And I will never get tired of it because 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.099 when he tells it, there's such a light in his 00:18:11.099 --> 00:18:15.000 eyes and his face. You know he saw. You know 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.819 he experienced this. And there's a lot of other 00:18:17.819 --> 00:18:19.779 little details to it that you need to listen 00:18:19.779 --> 00:18:22.299 to the podcast for or watch the service. If you 00:18:22.299 --> 00:18:23.960 want to watch the service version of sitting 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.019 on a platform with microphones and very conversational. 00:18:27.470 --> 00:18:30.970 You can go to bridgefbg .com, and it's right 00:18:30.970 --> 00:18:33.109 there on the main page, the landing page. Just 00:18:33.109 --> 00:18:34.650 look for sermons. It's in the sermon. Look for 00:18:34.650 --> 00:18:39.390 sermons from this last Sunday. Or go to livingupinadownworld 00:18:39.390 --> 00:18:41.329 .com, which we want you to do anyway if you're 00:18:41.329 --> 00:18:43.029 listening to the show. Maybe you're a new listener. 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.130 First of all, welcome to Living Up in a Down 00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:48.680 World. Wait, what episode? We are on, I looked 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:51.720 it up a minute ago. Ah, you forgot. Wait, momentarily. 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:53.799 I got it. Because we're almost at 100, correct? 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:57.859 We are at 90. Where'd you go? Where is it? Oh, 00:18:57.900 --> 00:19:00.160 here it is. Because Steve was 96, wasn't it? 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.839 No, no, they were. Actually, Steve was 95. This 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.220 is 96. 96. We're coming up on 100. Monday is 00:19:07.220 --> 00:19:09.900 97. That's awesome. I'm kind of fired up about 00:19:09.900 --> 00:19:12.359 that. Wow. So yeah, that's coming up. So anyway, 00:19:12.500 --> 00:19:16.140 go to livingupandadownworld .com and you can 00:19:16.140 --> 00:19:18.380 listen to the episode. You want to watch the 00:19:18.380 --> 00:19:23.740 episode. We would invite you to go to... Go to 00:19:23.740 --> 00:19:27.599 bridgefbg .com and scroll down to the Godcaster 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.259 on our website. Super simple. It's right about 00:19:30.259 --> 00:19:33.059 the middle of the page, and the actual video 00:19:33.059 --> 00:19:35.299 is there. You can click on the video version 00:19:35.299 --> 00:19:38.400 of the podcast, and you will see several. Actually, 00:19:38.460 --> 00:19:40.059 you'll see the conversation with Rick Green, 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.690 the conversation with Chris Dannem. And the conversation 00:19:42.690 --> 00:19:45.990 with Steve and Beverly Maxwell. And so go do 00:19:45.990 --> 00:19:48.170 that because they're all there. You click on 00:19:48.170 --> 00:19:50.190 them. It's video and it'll play right there on 00:19:50.190 --> 00:19:51.890 your on your player, whatever you've got, phone, 00:19:52.009 --> 00:19:55.490 computer, whatever. And do watch Steve and Beverly 00:19:55.490 --> 00:19:59.170 Maxwell. It will inspire you. And I really mean 00:19:59.170 --> 00:20:02.500 that. It's done. I mean, I'm already living up 00:20:02.500 --> 00:20:04.839 in a down world. I'm living really up now. I'm 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:08.400 almost there. It's like that good. And it's so 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:11.700 inspired me. It's impacted my walk with the Lord. 00:20:11.740 --> 00:20:15.460 It's impacted my prayer life. Because now it's 00:20:15.460 --> 00:20:17.839 like, I can see he's like right there. And that's 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:19.480 the thing Steve was real clear about. He goes, 00:20:19.539 --> 00:20:22.220 the spiritual realm is right here. He got put 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:23.799 his hand right in his front of his face. He said, 00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:26.859 it's that close. It's here. It's all around us. 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:29.099 It's not all evil. We always think it's always 00:20:29.099 --> 00:20:31.740 darkness and darkness, but it's not. It's the 00:20:31.740 --> 00:20:33.880 great cloud of witnesses that the book of Hebrews 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.119 talks about. And he said, they're cheering you 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:39.220 on saying, go Steve, go Steve. You got this. 00:20:39.259 --> 00:20:41.640 You can do it. He said, it's literally like you're 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.829 in a stadium. And the stands are full and they're 00:20:44.829 --> 00:20:47.210 cheering you on. And I love that he says that's 00:20:47.210 --> 00:20:49.150 what they're doing right now. Right now. It's 00:20:49.150 --> 00:20:51.630 not just there. It's right now. They're cheering 00:20:51.630 --> 00:20:54.970 us on. Just think about the largest stadium full 00:20:54.970 --> 00:20:58.630 of people you've ever seen on TV or on a video 00:20:58.630 --> 00:21:01.890 or were there. And imagine they're all watching 00:21:01.890 --> 00:21:05.650 you and they're cheering you on. And there are 00:21:05.650 --> 00:21:08.250 millions of them, not just 10 ,000 in a stadium 00:21:08.250 --> 00:21:11.359 or 60. The people that have gone before us. All 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:13.339 of the great cloud of witnesses, the Bible calls 00:21:13.339 --> 00:21:15.940 it, and they're cheering you on. I love that. 00:21:16.059 --> 00:21:18.059 The scripture is, and I love this because I pulled 00:21:18.059 --> 00:21:20.759 it up a minute ago. This is Hebrews chapter 12, 00:21:20.819 --> 00:21:22.680 verses one and two. It says, therefore, since 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.599 we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, 00:21:26.019 --> 00:21:29.500 let us throw off everything that hinders and 00:21:29.500 --> 00:21:32.960 the sin that so easily entangles and let us run 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.019 with perseverance the race marked out for us. 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.740 Because they're cheering us on. It's a race. 00:21:40.700 --> 00:21:43.759 The way Steve puts it is, it's a race to the 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:47.119 rapture. I love that. It's a race to the rapture. 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:49.359 We're out of here. But anyway, I want to encourage 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:51.960 you to check that out. We've been really inspired 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:53.559 and touched by it. We think you will be too. 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.680 Our friend Tina Curry, she's traveling. She's 00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:59.200 again. Yeah, she's going to Florida, and I'm 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.619 sure she's going to be sharing all these stories 00:22:01.619 --> 00:22:04.180 with her too. So Adam Curry is all by himself. 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.900 Well, he's got Miss Phoebe. He's kind of busy. 00:22:08.259 --> 00:22:10.759 He's busy with the Godcaster and, man, getting 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:13.319 that thing going. Check it out. Go to HelloFred 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:16.859 .fm, and that'll get you right to the Godcaster 00:22:16.859 --> 00:22:19.619 directly. And check it out. It is amazing, the 00:22:19.619 --> 00:22:22.019 project he's working on. He's pulling in a lot 00:22:22.019 --> 00:22:24.460 of people. I'm getting to help just with setting 00:22:24.460 --> 00:22:27.519 up and doing the song selection and stuff for 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.099 it, getting it ready. He gets 24 -7 worship music. 00:22:31.019 --> 00:22:34.220 Words of Inspiration is such a cool thing. It's 00:22:34.220 --> 00:22:36.400 amazing. You can listen to it all the time. We 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.680 keep ours going all the time. So check it out. 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.099 So what's God doing in your life, Miss Annette? 00:22:41.140 --> 00:22:42.859 It's been a while since we've talked. You just 00:22:42.859 --> 00:22:45.140 had a birthday. I did. I had a birthday yesterday. 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.000 Oh, yesterday. You're so funny. 24 hours ago. 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.940 I did have a birthday, and we got some good news 00:22:50.940 --> 00:22:57.900 the day before, which changed everything. Been 00:22:57.900 --> 00:23:00.579 living under a cloud a little bit with this kitchen, 00:23:00.579 --> 00:23:04.160 utility room, bathroom situation. The short version 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.779 is that the company that we paid a fortune to 00:23:06.779 --> 00:23:09.740 to build out, rebuild our cabinets, over the 00:23:09.740 --> 00:23:12.539 Christmas holidays, they collapsed. They went 00:23:12.539 --> 00:23:15.480 out of business without any announcement or anything. 00:23:15.579 --> 00:23:18.079 They just disappeared. And so we got jumped. 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:20.440 And they dropped all of our bad cabinets, the 00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:24.079 ones that they ruined, in our garage and left. 00:23:24.259 --> 00:23:26.200 Yep, that's it. They dropped their stuff off 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.569 and left. New people to come in, put cabinets 00:23:29.569 --> 00:23:31.890 up, repaint. So there's been some drama. It's 00:23:31.890 --> 00:23:35.750 been unbelievable. And we've been in this since 00:23:35.750 --> 00:23:38.309 last February, a year ago, February, and now 00:23:38.309 --> 00:23:40.450 we're in April. And we were told by the company, 00:23:40.549 --> 00:23:42.150 the credit card company, because that's how our 00:23:42.150 --> 00:23:44.490 contractor puts it on a credit card, just in 00:23:44.490 --> 00:23:46.950 case these kinds of things happen. And we were 00:23:46.950 --> 00:23:49.569 initially told that we may not get our money 00:23:49.569 --> 00:23:51.710 back. And it was going to be double the cost. 00:23:51.849 --> 00:23:55.190 And double the cost. And we got a call. Less 00:23:55.190 --> 00:23:57.430 happy about our cabinets. On Tuesday that it 00:23:57.430 --> 00:23:59.329 looks like we may have gotten our money back. 00:23:59.430 --> 00:24:00.289 That's what it looks like. Not from the company, 00:24:00.369 --> 00:24:02.970 but from the credit card company. Which is good. 00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:05.630 Which we're praying that sticks. That'll be a 00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:08.049 miracle. But that was such good news because. 00:24:08.509 --> 00:24:11.509 On your birthday. Typically, and I don't know 00:24:11.509 --> 00:24:16.829 if other people are like this, but I've had bad 00:24:16.829 --> 00:24:21.650 birthdays in the past. You had at one point. 00:24:21.690 --> 00:24:23.859 When I was in the first grade. You were five 00:24:23.859 --> 00:24:25.500 years old, though. You didn't get a birthday. 00:24:25.579 --> 00:24:28.480 Six years. Six years old. Do you remember what 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:32.039 happened with your birthday? Yes. Okay. Let's 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.220 not revisit that. No, it's good because of what 00:24:34.220 --> 00:24:36.980 happened. I know, but look at what happened in 00:24:36.980 --> 00:24:39.220 California because of that. That was a great 00:24:39.220 --> 00:24:42.079 thing. So I was in sixth grade. No. You were 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:44.279 six years old, first grade. Six years old, first 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:47.119 grade. My birthday came around. And it turned 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.480 out all the friends that had committed were calling 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:51.119 me. Because, you know, that's when phones just 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.859 came out and we could actually use them. And 00:24:52.859 --> 00:24:54.200 saying, oh, I'm not going to be able to come 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:55.940 to your birthday. I've got this. I've got a soccer 00:24:55.940 --> 00:24:59.079 game. I've got a baseball game. And all of a 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:00.579 sudden, I thought I was going to have this big 00:25:00.579 --> 00:25:03.900 party. And then no one showed up. Except for 00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:09.660 my cousins. My own family. And I was so dejected. 00:25:10.029 --> 00:25:12.609 It was devastating. It kind of scarred me a little 00:25:12.609 --> 00:25:15.750 bit. So from that time on, I never cared about 00:25:15.750 --> 00:25:18.910 birthdays. But what's interesting, and I have 00:25:18.910 --> 00:25:21.150 to share this because it goes along with my story, 00:25:21.170 --> 00:25:23.750 but I think yours is actually a lot more important 00:25:23.750 --> 00:25:26.549 than mine, is that when we lived in Southern 00:25:26.549 --> 00:25:31.470 California and Jimmy was a youth pastor, he told 00:25:31.470 --> 00:25:36.539 that story and the leaders. of our youth group 00:25:36.539 --> 00:25:39.339 we had a big youth group and we had a lot of 00:25:39.339 --> 00:25:42.140 leaders and the leaders approached me behind 00:25:42.140 --> 00:25:45.900 jimmy's back and said we want to throw jimmy 00:25:45.900 --> 00:25:50.160 a six -year -old birthday party and i was like 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:53.220 you want to do what and they said we want to 00:25:53.220 --> 00:25:56.680 and we're telling everybody to bring toys for 00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.599 a six -year -old and they did and we did and 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.029 it was but okay let me finish For one thing, 00:26:03.049 --> 00:26:05.930 we were able to give those toys to needy kids, 00:26:06.009 --> 00:26:09.970 which was amazing. But they even, they said, 00:26:10.029 --> 00:26:15.210 I want to get his family to record a happy birthday 00:26:15.210 --> 00:26:18.269 to the six -year -old Jimmy. That was probably, 00:26:18.529 --> 00:26:21.269 oh, I could cry right now thinking about it because 00:26:21.269 --> 00:26:25.089 it was one of the most moving. I'll never forget 00:26:25.089 --> 00:26:28.299 that as long as I live. Moving. birthday parties 00:26:28.299 --> 00:26:31.099 i've ever been to because we sang and acted like 00:26:31.099 --> 00:26:33.039 you were well you know you you really don't ever 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.779 grow up anyway men are still you know but it 00:26:35.779 --> 00:26:38.960 was so beautiful jimmy yeah it was and you were 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.660 in tears it wrecked me it wrecked especially 00:26:42.660 --> 00:26:46.500 hearing your grandmother's voices you know you 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:48.319 couldn't hear your mom's because she had passed 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.039 but you got to hear all these people say i want 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:54.900 to wish you a happy sixth birthday that was cool 00:26:54.900 --> 00:26:58.220 jimmy that was cool Who does that? I know. Only 00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:01.759 spiritual family who love you will do something 00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:03.819 like that. And they did. And I'll never forget 00:27:03.819 --> 00:27:07.279 it. For me, I had a bad experience when I was 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.779 married to my first husband. I'd gone to get 00:27:09.779 --> 00:27:12.160 my hair cut and we were going to meet at church 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.099 that Wednesday night. And when I got there, I 00:27:15.099 --> 00:27:17.920 decided to cut my hair short, not too short, 00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:21.859 but short, a lot shorter than it was. And I sat 00:27:21.859 --> 00:27:25.079 down on the pew. And my husband pulled out the 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.440 Dillard's credit card. That was the credit card 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.240 we had of choice. And he pulled it out, and he 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.519 showed it to me, and he said, I was going to 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:36.279 give you this card so you could go pick out what 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:37.779 you want for your birthday, but now that you 00:27:37.779 --> 00:27:39.880 cut your hair off, you don't get anything. And 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:41.960 he put the card back in his billfold. That's 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.599 cold as ice. It was very cold. Yeah, that's dark. 00:27:45.940 --> 00:27:48.839 But, you know, I forgave him for that, but for 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.859 some reason, It's still, I get this depression 00:27:52.859 --> 00:27:55.880 kind of feeling at my birthday. And there may 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.900 be other things that happen that I'm not, maybe 00:27:58.900 --> 00:28:02.640 I'm not conscious of anymore. But that's the 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.220 only thing that I can remember that would have 00:28:05.220 --> 00:28:09.480 happened that I get this bad feeling around my 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.940 birthday. And so Tuesday was, you know, Tuesday 00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:15.720 we're at staff meeting and I know my birthday 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:17.880 is the next day. And I kind of start to feel 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:21.920 that. I don't know the anxiousness of, you know, 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:23.819 because it's not about presents. We don't even, 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.880 I told you I wanted, we never do presents for 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.980 each other. Not really. Not really. Every day 00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:32.880 is birthday for us. Because Amazon is our best 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.500 friend. And so I'm like, whatever I want within 00:28:35.500 --> 00:28:38.599 reason and we have a budget, yeah, I can get. 00:28:38.819 --> 00:28:40.759 But this time I actually told you I wanted a 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:42.640 digital photo because we have a new grandson. 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.099 And I want to be able to have his picture and 00:28:46.099 --> 00:28:49.500 other pictures of our best friends and you and 00:28:49.500 --> 00:28:52.920 our dogs, you know, and our grand dogs and all 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:59.299 that. We're getting old. Yes, we are. I can scroll 00:28:59.299 --> 00:29:01.380 through pictures on my phone or I can, when I 00:29:01.380 --> 00:29:03.420 go get coffee, see all these pictures coming 00:29:03.420 --> 00:29:05.519 through the digital photo, which I was very excited 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.920 about. So you did that for me. But I started 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.220 to feel this kind of like anxiousness. I'm like, 00:29:10.299 --> 00:29:12.700 no, no, no, no, Satan, you're not going to do 00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:16.059 this to me. And my phone, I look down and it's 00:29:16.059 --> 00:29:19.700 our contractor, Sherry Hugendorn. And she either 00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:23.400 calls for good reasons or bad reasons. And I 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.339 was like, oh, no, really? I'm starting to feel 00:29:26.339 --> 00:29:29.140 this. And I get her call and she calls and says, 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:31.720 you're not going to believe this, but we got 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.519 the credit. from the cabinet place on our credit 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.859 cards and she goes i think this one's going to 00:29:37.859 --> 00:29:39.960 stick but just pray keep praying keep praying 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.519 but you know what that did for me even if it 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.200 doesn't stick and next week it's they do something 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.579 i needed something like that around that time 00:29:49.579 --> 00:29:55.099 to not to help me stay up and not go down a path 00:29:55.099 --> 00:29:58.680 i don't need to go down and it reminded me Because 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:01.579 once I go down that path, I have to go, okay, 00:30:01.660 --> 00:30:05.740 where's this coming from? It's always the enemy 00:30:05.740 --> 00:30:07.680 if it's going to take you down a path that's 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.660 going to put you into some kind of depression 00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:12.460 or anxiety or anything. And that's the one thing 00:30:12.460 --> 00:30:15.140 I have to ask myself every year. Where is this 00:30:15.140 --> 00:30:19.599 coming from? And I knew immediately. But I think 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.519 God reminded me that you don't have to live like 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.539 this, Annette. You can live up in that down world 00:30:27.539 --> 00:30:31.140 and not allow those things of the past to, you 00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:34.519 know, to cause you to go back into that dark 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.420 place. And so for me, it was a good reminder 00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:41.480 that God's still on the throne and he's still 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.900 working on things. And I needed, I hope this 00:30:44.900 --> 00:30:48.240 sticks. I pray it sticks. But I needed something 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.680 good to happen around my birthday to have something 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.500 to, which a lot of good has happened since then 00:30:54.500 --> 00:30:57.279 that doesn't even compare. Oh, you came in, you 00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:01.460 had gifts and cards. Oh, my gosh. Balloons, flowers, 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:06.880 everything. Naomi, Brian Mandel's wife, her love 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.299 language is gift giving. She's a rock star. And 00:31:10.299 --> 00:31:13.700 so she made sure she contacted every close friend 00:31:13.700 --> 00:31:17.900 of mine. I had cards. Three bouquets of flowers. 00:31:19.940 --> 00:31:23.539 They're just amazing, amazing what she has done. 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.759 She's changed birthdays. She's trying to change 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:33.960 the, how do I say this? The culture, the tradition 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.460 of birthdays to make them fun and enlightening 00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:41.660 and positive instead of people that might have 00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:44.059 bad memories. And that's exactly what she did. 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.839 I love that you brought this up because you're 00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:49.180 bringing up something that a lot of people, and 00:31:49.180 --> 00:31:50.960 I guarantee people that are listening to the 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:54.539 show today, are totally relating to even what 00:31:54.539 --> 00:31:57.680 I experienced in mine. Fortunately, a bunch of 00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.920 beautiful people flipped it upside down, and 00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.380 now it's a positive thing for me. And you were 00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:06.359 like 35? Yeah, I was in my 30s. Having a five 00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.460 -year -old birthday. That sounds so young now. 00:32:08.660 --> 00:32:12.470 It does. I was a kid. I was a child. But people 00:32:12.470 --> 00:32:14.670 that are listening have really had to walk through 00:32:14.670 --> 00:32:17.210 some very hard things like that. So as you're 00:32:17.210 --> 00:32:19.210 saying it, I'm thinking about people listening. 00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:21.509 Me too. That's why I brought it up. And how we 00:32:21.509 --> 00:32:24.430 can encourage them. One of the things that you 00:32:24.430 --> 00:32:26.450 said you did, I want to backtrack just a hair 00:32:26.450 --> 00:32:28.829 because you said you had to really instead of 00:32:28.829 --> 00:32:30.569 going down that track, you know, what do you 00:32:30.569 --> 00:32:32.910 do? You have to rethink. What are the things? 00:32:32.950 --> 00:32:35.069 I want to rewrite my story. Yeah. Rewrite your 00:32:35.069 --> 00:32:38.269 story. Rewire your neural pathways, a .k .a. 00:32:38.269 --> 00:32:41.240 your spirit, your mind. But there's a scripture 00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:42.740 in Philippians four. And that's why I started 00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:44.599 got on my computer while you're talking. I wouldn't 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.740 try. You're just bored. No, I'm just I'm checking 00:32:47.740 --> 00:32:50.180 my Facebook. No, actually, I was literally I 00:32:50.180 --> 00:32:51.839 was looking for this particular scripture. It's 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.799 Philippians four, eight. Finally, brothers, whatever 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.670 is true. whatever is honorable, whatever is just, 00:32:57.910 --> 00:33:00.230 whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever 00:33:00.230 --> 00:33:02.849 is commendable. If there's any excellence, if 00:33:02.849 --> 00:33:05.829 there's anything worthy of praise, think about 00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:08.289 these things. I know that's one of my favorite 00:33:08.289 --> 00:33:10.490 verses. That is so powerful. And it really is 00:33:10.490 --> 00:33:13.170 something that we have to grab hold of. It's 00:33:13.170 --> 00:33:15.750 Philippians 4a. For you listening, go find that 00:33:15.750 --> 00:33:18.430 in your Bible and mark that scripture. Because 00:33:18.430 --> 00:33:21.769 when things come down and you've got like a negative 00:33:21.769 --> 00:33:25.750 association with a particular issue, stamp or 00:33:25.750 --> 00:33:29.089 someone died over Christmas, so now every Christmas 00:33:29.089 --> 00:33:31.450 feels weird. Mine was that way for a while because 00:33:31.450 --> 00:33:36.109 of my mom passing at a young age. But you have 00:33:36.109 --> 00:33:39.190 to begin to replace all those dark, negative, 00:33:39.309 --> 00:33:41.849 stinking thinking, as Zig Ziglar used to say, 00:33:41.869 --> 00:33:44.150 stinking thinking with something life -giving 00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:46.349 and positive. Scripture gives us exactly what 00:33:46.349 --> 00:33:48.890 to do. True, things that are true, honorable, 00:33:49.109 --> 00:33:52.809 just, pure, lovely, commendable. If there's any 00:33:52.809 --> 00:33:55.109 excellence, anything worthy of praise, think 00:33:55.109 --> 00:33:58.670 about these things. And it means to think continually. 00:33:58.710 --> 00:34:00.970 In other words, continue to put these things, 00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:04.390 these good things. Don't let those negative thoughts 00:34:04.390 --> 00:34:07.210 overtake you. Because the thoughts are going 00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:10.309 to come because that's what the enemy, he doesn't 00:34:10.309 --> 00:34:13.000 do anything that's positive. But you have to 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.900 take that thought captive, which means you arrest 00:34:16.900 --> 00:34:20.199 it immediately and you think of those good things. 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.340 Last year, Tina took me on a spa weekend for 00:34:24.340 --> 00:34:26.480 my birthday. So we were gone the whole three 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.880 days. I think we left like the first, second, 00:34:28.940 --> 00:34:31.940 third, and the whole three days. And that was 00:34:31.940 --> 00:34:37.329 probably the very first. that I was able to rewrite 00:34:37.329 --> 00:34:41.369 the script, basically. This one, because we've 00:34:41.369 --> 00:34:45.750 had this harrowing thing over our head for a 00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:49.889 year and a half and fighting this, it was hard 00:34:49.889 --> 00:34:52.369 to not go there. But I did well because I knew 00:34:52.369 --> 00:34:55.670 that I could not go there. I had to remember, 00:34:56.070 --> 00:35:00.650 my story's rewritten. She changed it to where 00:35:00.650 --> 00:35:04.119 we had an amazing girl weekend. The bad thing 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:06.260 about what she did, and I hope she hears this, 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.780 is that now I expect it every year, and I didn't 00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:10.659 get that from her, but that's okay. She gave 00:35:10.659 --> 00:35:13.760 me beautiful gifts. So maybe you should take 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:15.780 me for a spa weekend. Oh, there you go. We can 00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:18.800 go get our nails done. No. Get a pedicure. Get 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:22.699 a pedi. No. Yeah, right. You. No. Massages and 00:35:22.699 --> 00:35:26.860 stuff. But anyway, I think that it's really important, 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.280 exactly what you said, that if we have these 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.340 events that happen around certain times of the 00:35:34.340 --> 00:35:36.500 year. And we get, we get funky. Cause I hear 00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:39.079 that from people a lot. Oh, this time of year, 00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.500 I always get this or always. And I just think, 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.260 no, we've got to, we've got to rewrite that script 00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:50.179 and it has to, we need to change that. Put Jesus 00:35:50.179 --> 00:35:52.199 in the middle of it and it changes everything. 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.139 I was reading, so on point, I was reading about 00:35:55.139 --> 00:35:57.320 neuropathways in the brain and how. Of course 00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.659 you were. Who does that? Everybody does. No, 00:35:59.659 --> 00:36:01.880 they don't. And it was talking about how we can 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.099 literally rewrite our brains. We can reroute 00:36:04.099 --> 00:36:05.760 them and we do it through repetition, through 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.360 memorizing and repetition. So when you are repeating 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.219 God's word and reading God's word, and you may 00:36:12.219 --> 00:36:14.199 have read that verse a hundred times, but read 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.739 it 101, 102, stay on it. And what it does, it 00:36:17.739 --> 00:36:20.619 reroutes. your neural pathways. So your thoughts 00:36:20.619 --> 00:36:23.219 get reshaped. So if you got a lot of stinking 00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:25.300 thinking, a lot of negative associations, like 00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:28.420 you're struggling with, like I did with my six 00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:31.260 -year -old birthday, you know, I needed to reroute 00:36:31.260 --> 00:36:34.619 that. And the way I rerouted it and God rerouted 00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:36.500 it was to bring a group of people around me who 00:36:36.500 --> 00:36:38.920 helped me rewrite that story. They're more than 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.800 made up for that silly little day. I mean, really, 00:36:41.940 --> 00:36:44.920 it was a beautiful thing, but it's the same way 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.349 with your birthdays. You've got You've got a 00:36:47.349 --> 00:36:49.909 spiritual family that loves you. We've got best 00:36:49.909 --> 00:36:52.170 friends, Adam, Tina, Curry, and others that come 00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:55.469 around you and hold us up. Brian and Naomi and 00:36:55.469 --> 00:36:58.409 others who come around, hold us up, hold our 00:36:58.409 --> 00:37:01.190 arms up. They're helping rewrite those neural 00:37:01.190 --> 00:37:03.929 pathways. We're getting new memories. And it's 00:37:03.929 --> 00:37:06.690 what it does. It begins to replace the stinking 00:37:06.690 --> 00:37:08.789 thinking. It begins to replace those negative 00:37:08.789 --> 00:37:11.190 thoughts. And that goes back to the scripture. 00:37:11.650 --> 00:37:13.789 Whatever's true, whatever's lovely. Did you know 00:37:13.789 --> 00:37:15.630 what that literally means to take an inventory? 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.199 When it says think on these things, it means 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.619 take an inventory of these things. Are these 00:37:21.619 --> 00:37:24.360 things in you? Have you been thinking about them? 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.639 When was the last time you thought about what's 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:31.219 true, what's honorable, what's just? That's what's 00:37:31.219 --> 00:37:34.969 supposed to occupy your brain space. And when 00:37:34.969 --> 00:37:36.989 all that negative, stinking thinking and all, 00:37:37.010 --> 00:37:39.030 man, it comes to us a million miles an hour. 00:37:39.090 --> 00:37:41.190 I'm holding my phone up right now in the palm 00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:44.110 of your hand on a daily basis. You've got to 00:37:44.110 --> 00:37:46.889 be able to. And I've started cutting away my 00:37:46.889 --> 00:37:50.389 screen time, especially on mainstream media news 00:37:50.389 --> 00:37:53.300 and all that. bad news and the fighting. And 00:37:53.300 --> 00:37:55.559 I've just thought, no, I ain't got time for that. 00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:57.340 You have just enough information to know what's 00:37:57.340 --> 00:37:59.679 going on, but not enough to sink you. To go down 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.260 the rabbit hole. Right. Absolutely. So, so I 00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:03.900 love what you're saying, Annette, because you're 00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:05.940 nailing it because this is where people live, 00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:09.360 fighting those thoughts, those intrusive thoughts, 00:38:09.460 --> 00:38:11.679 but we got to replace them with the positive, 00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:13.639 right? The life giving. We replace them with 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.139 the word of God. What you doing over there? Sorry. 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.320 No worries. I'm having to. You know, I'm still 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.300 on the clock. So I have people like, I need you. 00:38:21.300 --> 00:38:23.920 You have a day job. This is your day job. Yeah. 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.340 So, yeah. I have to make sure nothing's important 00:38:28.340 --> 00:38:30.599 because we didn't tell everybody we were doing 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.880 our podcast. So I never, they think I'm here. 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.119 This is like the first podcast we did. You were 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.360 like, you're available? Remember I drug you off 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.920 the couch and said, okay. You fed me breakfast. 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:42.219 You fed me lunch. You said, okay, now can you 00:38:42.219 --> 00:38:44.780 do it? I'm like, okay, let's do this. The last 00:38:44.780 --> 00:38:47.659 time we did it, we had no energy. It was early 00:38:47.659 --> 00:38:50.219 in the morning. That was the problem. Not enough 00:38:50.219 --> 00:38:53.360 coffee. No, I needed coffee and I needed some 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.380 food. And we usually fast in the mornings, but 00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:57.739 today I fasted all day yesterday. We did not 00:38:57.739 --> 00:39:00.440 fast today. We ate breakfast and lunch. Because 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.599 we're back on our carnivore journey. Here's a 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:05.179 carnivore corner moment. We get to speak again. 00:39:05.619 --> 00:39:08.099 In Tennessee. We're doing a meetup out in Tennessee, 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:10.940 in Yuma, Tennessee. I mean, that's middle of 00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:14.980 nowhere Tennessee. And we get to speak with Dr. 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.840 Ken Berry, Dr. Kiltz. Carrie Mann, Adam Lacey, 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.760 all the guys that are really the influencers 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.659 in the carnivore space. And it's all centered 00:39:25.659 --> 00:39:27.840 around this documentary that we're a part of 00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.780 called Healing Humanity, The Perfect Human Diet. 00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:35.360 And we are unapologetically carnivore. And it 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.800 has been a game changer. Keto -vore for me, carnivore 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.679 for you. Somebody stop me in the church. I'm 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.099 walking through. Jeff McClarity sees me. And 00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:44.639 I'm offering. Remember, I got chicken salad, 00:39:44.699 --> 00:39:46.699 but it came with french fries. So I go through 00:39:46.699 --> 00:39:49.239 the kitchen. Guess who's there? Tommy Jeff I 00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.320 said who wants french fries they're fresh I haven't 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.019 touched them man Tommy was all over of course 00:39:54.019 --> 00:39:57.420 he practically tackled me and Jeff said I don't 00:39:57.420 --> 00:40:00.420 because I'm actually said I haven't started fully 00:40:00.420 --> 00:40:03.000 yet but I'm stepping into this carnivore thing 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.079 you're talking about I said give me your phone 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:06.739 I'm going to send you some links to some guys 00:40:06.739 --> 00:40:10.650 like Ken Berry Dr. Chafee and so Anyway, we get 00:40:10.650 --> 00:40:12.630 the privilege. We spoke in Austin about a month 00:40:12.630 --> 00:40:16.110 ago. Honestly, it's just an excuse to get to 00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:18.230 see our grandbaby again because it's an hour 00:40:18.230 --> 00:40:20.909 and a half from our grandbaby. We'll stay in 00:40:20.909 --> 00:40:22.869 Nashville. When I saw that it was in Tennessee 00:40:22.869 --> 00:40:25.710 and we decided to go, they actually said, oh, 00:40:25.730 --> 00:40:27.150 well, then we're putting you on the schedule. 00:40:27.809 --> 00:40:31.989 I said, well, I'm going because I have to see 00:40:31.989 --> 00:40:34.429 him at four months. He'll be almost four months 00:40:34.429 --> 00:40:37.760 old. I'm looking forward to that. time of a baby's 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.019 life and so yeah we're taking some folks with 00:40:40.019 --> 00:40:43.460 us too tina's going tina's going pastor brian 00:40:43.460 --> 00:40:45.860 is going she's rocking it on health she's lost 00:40:45.860 --> 00:40:51.440 16 pounds great really proud of her 90 90 pounds 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.639 90 pounds who loses 90 pounds faith tell me you 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.800 know dr kilts is her new fertility doctor and 00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:59.780 i said well good you can call together yeah he 00:40:59.780 --> 00:41:02.920 actually said I told him about her. We did a 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.139 podcast with him recently. He's a fertility doctor, 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.880 very well known. And I was telling him about 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.260 her and how she has PCOS and how she wants to 00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:12.219 have a child. And he said, have her call me. 00:41:12.300 --> 00:41:15.639 I'll help her. Who does that? Such a great guy. 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.800 Well -known fertility doctor. Do you know how 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.659 expensive that is? She calls him yesterday and 00:41:21.659 --> 00:41:25.940 he talks to her. His office calls, does the intake. 00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.460 She is now a patient. He is not charging, which 00:41:29.460 --> 00:41:33.130 I'm shocked. And he said to her, try carnivore 00:41:33.130 --> 00:41:36.210 for 30 days. Just try it. Because that's what 00:41:36.210 --> 00:41:39.269 I do with all of my patients. Because carnivore 00:41:39.269 --> 00:41:42.989 works for PCOS. You've got to get all the inflammation, 00:41:43.210 --> 00:41:46.309 everything out of your body. So I said, you know 00:41:46.309 --> 00:41:48.090 what? Now that you're going to go on carnivore, 00:41:48.110 --> 00:41:49.710 which she's starting, I think, today or tomorrow. 00:41:50.349 --> 00:41:52.429 I said, you've got to go with us to Tennessee. 00:41:52.630 --> 00:41:55.070 That way you can see the baby, too, again. Because 00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:56.489 she got to see him when he was two weeks old. 00:41:56.670 --> 00:42:00.019 But you'll get to meet your new doctor. And you'll 00:42:00.019 --> 00:42:02.300 get to hear stories that are going to inspire 00:42:02.300 --> 00:42:05.360 you to want to do this. And when we did ours 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.440 in Austin, so many, many people that got up were 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.980 Christians and talked about the Lord. I pray 00:42:11.980 --> 00:42:14.659 this happens again. I don't know. We don't know. 00:42:15.380 --> 00:42:18.199 We just know we will. We will because that's 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:22.449 who we are. But I was really. I'm really excited 00:42:22.449 --> 00:42:25.489 that she gets to go along this journey with us. 00:42:25.590 --> 00:42:27.909 And so it's going to be a great time. We're on 00:42:27.909 --> 00:42:31.250 the journey. I hit my target weight of 195 today. 00:42:31.409 --> 00:42:33.329 I hit mine too. I'm super stoked. And so, yeah, 00:42:33.429 --> 00:42:35.670 we're just doing it. We're in a good place. Just 00:42:35.670 --> 00:42:37.349 trying to be healthy. And the whole bottom line 00:42:37.349 --> 00:42:40.510 is this, is mind, body, spirit. It's just stewarding 00:42:40.510 --> 00:42:43.469 what God's given us. It's not about being narcissistic 00:42:43.469 --> 00:42:46.650 or what's the word, vain. It's not about that. 00:42:47.070 --> 00:42:49.650 It's about taking care of what God gifts us. 00:42:49.670 --> 00:42:52.650 He gifts us our body. our mind. Gifts us our 00:42:52.650 --> 00:42:55.170 spirit. We need to nurture all of those. So, 00:42:55.289 --> 00:42:57.130 yeah, it's not about trying to ram a diet down 00:42:57.130 --> 00:42:59.329 somebody's throat. It's about how can we be the 00:42:59.329 --> 00:43:02.510 best stewards of our body, the best that we can 00:43:02.510 --> 00:43:04.929 be for his glory, for his honor. Absolutely. 00:43:05.050 --> 00:43:07.610 So that's coming. So as we land the plane, wow, 00:43:07.909 --> 00:43:10.329 we've been, we've had some wonderful gifts, givers. 00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:13.130 I don't have the list in front of me. Well, let's 00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:16.090 see. We have Steve Wise gave us a gift, Trinity, 00:43:16.289 --> 00:43:21.090 James Behrens. Yes. Beautiful. Love James. I 00:43:21.090 --> 00:43:26.969 know. Julie, Brandy, Adam, of course. I'm thinking 00:43:26.969 --> 00:43:31.230 of all these people in my head. I think that's 00:43:31.230 --> 00:43:33.809 it in the last few weeks. Yes. 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But we love you guys. 00:45:10.829 --> 00:45:14.289 And Annette, I want to say thank you for letting 00:45:14.289 --> 00:45:15.690 me drag you to the microphone today. You dragged 00:45:15.690 --> 00:45:18.010 me again. I did. But you fed me. That's what 00:45:18.010 --> 00:45:20.409 needed to happen today. I fed you twice. And 00:45:20.409 --> 00:45:21.969 then we got a big night tonight. We're going 00:45:21.969 --> 00:45:23.730 to go out with a bunch of church people and just 00:45:23.730 --> 00:45:25.849 have a fun time. So looking forward to that. 00:45:26.030 --> 00:45:28.449 Love you, girl. So happy. Thank you again for 00:45:28.449 --> 00:45:30.840 being here. on the show today you're welcome 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.880 not running solo I didn't have to drag somebody 00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.139 off the street oh yeah right like you drag anybody 00:45:36.139 --> 00:45:39.199 hey we love you guys have an amazing week on 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.380 purpose and keep stay the course and keep running 00:45:43.380 --> 00:45:45.280 the race God bless you we love you