I have that song on my playlist. So this coffee
cup, hold on, ready, three, two, one. There we
go. So this coffee cup was gifted to us by the
boys of Mercy Me. You really got, you got that
directly from, no way. Okay. Yeah. That's cool.
Quick story. They reached out to me, John Schuser.
He's the lead guitar player. One of them. There's
two, two lead guitar players. He reaches out
through Facebook of all places. He goes, Hey,
I know, I know you don't know me, Pastor Jimmy,
but, Darren Tyler up at Conduit Church in Nashville
is my pastor. I know Darren. That church is growing
big time out there. Great guy. And he said, I'm
one of the guitar players for Mercy Me. I was
like, oh, that's cool. And he said, hey. So he
was trying to get to Adam. So he knew I baptized
him. Well, Adam was telling me that they were
fans of Adam's, that they watched his No Agenda
voice. No way. So anyway, that's how that happened.
So we ended up with these cups. In fact, I'll
just show it around here. Nice. I actually like
it. I like what it says. Wake up and do my happy
dance. We should make happy dance the theme song.
Come on now. Oh, man, they rocked that out. So
you'll notice over there, too. Got the tavern
mug on set with us. Excellent. Excellent. I have
the props. Yes. And, of course, one of my favorites.
Nice. That has become something that is so important
to me. Somebody reached out to Adam Curry recently,
and he forwarded me the email. She lives right
around the corner from the monument. No kidding.
And she wrote the book on the monument. Oh, wow.
And she had heard Adam on. Oh, is she the one
that did the book? We carry that book. Okay.
In the Patriot Academy. story yeah she's actually
sending me and adam both a copy of it because
he was talking about it she saw him on rogan
and said i actually wrote the book on that i'm
going to send you a couple of copies of that
nice and maybe someday we could meet up because
we want to go back there at some point you know
well go you can't go with us easter because you
got to be here for easter but we're gonna know
yeah we're gonna go for the shot heard around
the world 250th birthday right there in lexington
and then drive over to Plymouth and do a little
Easter service at the monument. Powerful, powerful.
So let's say a word of prayer as we get started.
I'd like to kick off right. Father, in Jesus'
name, what a privilege it is to be here with
Rick, just a man who's so influenced my life
on so many levels and so thankful for his friendship,
but also thankful for his coaching and his mentorship
in regards to all things constitutional, all
things about loving our nation well, and also
pulling this nation back to where it needs to
be. And so thank you for Rick and the Patriot
Academy, for Kara, the kids, and the interns
out there, just an amazing team doing amazing
work. And so bless him, encourage him. And today
we just put before you what we're doing here.
We give it to you, consecrate ourselves, our
thoughts, our conversation. You take it where
you want it to go, and we'll riff on it as you
bring it to us. We trust you in it. And Father,
for our hearers. And for those who are watching
and joining us, Father, would you encourage them,
give them the grace to live up in a down world.
In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. This is our first
inaugural video version. Uh -oh. We've never
done it before. You should have picked somebody
better for that. It's going to be the first.
Man, we just went downhill. We're going down,
not up. We're supposed to be living up. We're
supposed to be living up in a down world, right?
So I want to welcome you to the inaugural video
version of this. And we're stepping into a new
space with this on YouTube and others. And just
super excited to have you today, brother. You
bet, man. We're getting to do life together.
You hear me say this a million times. We get
to do this. Well, right now we're in a season
where we're getting to do life together in this
season. So excited about having you and Kara
and the kids and the whole Patriot Academy crew
and team here in Fredericksburg, Texas. You guys
moved from Dripping Springs. So I want you to
just kick this off by telling us a little bit
about your background. I'll probably ask some
pointed questions. If I interrupt you, just flow
with me. Just for people who are watching or
listening, because we'll have this both audio
and video, I want them to get to know who you
are, and I really want them to connect with the
Patriot Academy. So tell us how it started. Just
give us a quick background on that, and then
why you ended up in Fredericksburg instead of
Dripping Springs. I think you and Annette are
a big reason. I think God was bringing us together,
man. This church, this whole environment, this
whole group, I've never felt more at home. I
mean, there's no way to tell all the different
times you have said something that my family
looks, we all look around and look at each other
and go, we've been saying that for years. He
said it exactly like we say it, you know, and
just over and over and over again. I mean, even
the title of your show, you know, we re -produce
or re - I guess, did Zig Ziglar's Raising Positive
Kids in a Negative World. It's just like the
same kind of theme, right? It's like all this
other stuff's going on in the world that's bad.
We'll show you how God's going to make good out
of it. It's just that same attitude. So anyway,
it's like brother from another mother, man. I
mean, that's all the time. Even the other day,
there was one of your sermons. It was probably
three weeks ago. You said something about your
mom being a teller and talking about the whole...
you know, fake, uh, not, you don't handle fake
money. You handle the real thing. So you recognize
the fake money, exact same thing with my mom,
bro. Exact same thing. I even tell that story
in one of my constitution classes. Cause I use
the example of study the actual constitution,
not the Supreme court opinions that are not the
real thing. And I tell, and I'm like, you're
telling that story and cameras looking back at
me going. that's gaga too that's gaga story it
is just amazing it happens all the time and so
yes i'm telling you man and it's just a holy
spirit thing adam and i were talking about the
other day it's like all these things where the
holy spirit just brought so many of us together
for such a time as this and it's almost like
it it saves time it's i don't know it's like
we're starting in the same place we don't have
to try to figure out how to work together It's
just been a natural dovetail. Oh, good way to
put that. My word for this year is convergence.
That's it. And it literally is this merging,
this converging of people, place, things, time,
season, culture, what God's doing in the earth
right now. It's like this convergence of streams,
and I'm just catching the waves. I always say
I don't generate the waves, just catch them when
they come by. And then when you ride that one
out, you paddle back out and catch another one.
And that's really what we're in right now. not
having to fight it you know you've ever been
in a season where it's like you're trying to
make it happen trying to make it it's just not
working it just won't come together it's the
opposite of that It's like everywhere we're turning,
it's just smooth. It's hitting that wave exactly
right. It's so natural as breathing because we're
not trying to generate or make things happen.
It's just God is putting these things in front
of us. I always have called it, for years, the
favor factor. He's putting these things in front
of us. We simply step into them. And the door
opens, you step through it. It's like when he
got Peter out of jail, right? Or Paul, Paul and
Silas, when they were in jail. And the door's
open. What do you do? You walk through the door.
door that's open right no effort they weren't
having to bang on the wall they weren't they
didn't have a file trying to right right they
had bars back there i don't know how they did
it back in the first century but but they were
able to just walk out because the doors open
and i feel like that's what we're doing right
now on every level amen well that's uh that's
the way we feel being here you know we've been
over in dripping springs for 30 years my wife
grew up there i grew up in the dallas area and
wiley and um you know when i came down here for
law school and we met got married it was only
three years in that I ran for the legislature.
And so we ended up in the state house at a very
young age. And so all of a sudden we're thrust
into this political world and trying to figure
it out. And what really shocked us was how many
people in that arena We're just constantly finger
to the wind, kind of blown by whatever was going
on with no real conviction, no plumb line of
this is what I'm here for. This is what I'm fighting
for. And so we decided, you know what, we need
to raise up a generation that has a conviction
oriented compass of what right and wrong is and
how to walk that out in the political arena.
That was where our passion was. And so that's
when we started Patriot Academy. So it's been
25 years of training young people. And just a
few years ago, we started. training old people
too. So all of us, every age, you know, yeah,
that's right. That's right. It was because people
our age were saying, where's our program? You
know, we're watching these kids get this foundation.
What can we do to come participate? So now we've
got the coach program. We got the youth leadership
program and we'd always wanted to have a campus,
but we, you know, we'd, cause we'd bounce around
to state capitals. We do the programs in state
capitals around the country. And we always wanted
to have a campus cause we knew we've had the,
we get the kids for one week at a time and you
can only do so much. And a lot of the kids would
come back three, four or five years in a row.
So we could build. on it, but we always dreamed
of having them for a year. Our kids went through
a program like that over the last, I guess, five
years. We were sending them to Hot Springs, to
Tim Brooks' church there. Paul Kern had them
for a year. What I saw him do with them when
he had that year, and we think we're pretty decent
parents. We're not the best, but we're not terrible.
Like I was saying with Zig Ziglar's Raising Positive
Kids in a Negative World, we did all of that.
But by sending them to Paul and what they call
Leaders Academy up there in Hot Springs and watching
their growth over that year, the interaction
they had with other kids, the iron sharpening,
the grounding, the focus on the Lord. I call
CBI's casual but intentional meetings. Yes. Those
are the ones you have after class. Yeah, around
the fire or just at lunch or whatever it might
be. Yeah, in the dorm or whatever, or in your
case, the mini home. Yeah. To me, that's where
a lot of life happens. I always say a lot of
what we do in church is an excuse to get us together.
Exactly. I mean, all the programming, all that
is all great, and it's important. It has good
content, but it's really the interaction and
the conversation to happen after you've been
in an environment where you've been taught, where
you're learning something, where your mind gets
pumped, and you're like, I've got to talk to
somebody about this. Even our Constitution classes
are like that. I tell everybody the magic happens
after the video. Play the video. That's the excuse
to come together, kind of like what you're talking
about, but then it's the fellowship. afterwards
where the iron sharpening iron happens and and
even we tell people at the campus you know we're
building independence hall we're doing all this
stuff but the buildings are the carrot man that's
just getting them there so that you can do exactly
what you're talking about do life together and
have those moments of inspiration so we saw that
in our own kids saw the result of what happened
when they did that one year program said we've
got to do this for these patriot academy kids
that are coming through the program so that's
the reason we ultimately wanted to have a campus
And Kara said Fredericksburg from the beginning.
I mean, even when we first started looking, she's
like, Fredericksburg, I mean, the Holy Spirit
was just drawing us here. I was going to ask,
is it something she felt like the Lord was leading?
We hadn't even been here that much. I think we
had visited here maybe once or twice over 30
years, but she just knew this was the place.
And, of course, my reaction was, too expensive,
there's no way, you know, it's not going to work.
And so we looked all over the state. She looked
at 200 different places, ranches, you know, and
we did a whole tour of Comedy and Constitution
every night, 17 nights all around Texas, and
every night I'd say, Somebody wants their ranch
to be the legacy of Patriot. We got a couple
offers, like down at the border, no thanks. Midland,
we love Midland, Odessa, but not that much. And
then the Lord opened up Fredericksburg and gave
us this place. And man, it's been fast and furious
for the last, it's only been 26 months now. But,
man, it's been amazing. I literally live two
miles past you. So you've seen us every step
of the way. I've seen it every step of the way,
driving by there. At first, it was like, what
is going on over there? I mean, because when
you drive a road every day, you notice everything.
Right, right. Especially if it's something different.
And we were like, man, something's going on there.
And we watched and watched. I actually remember
hearing you the first time, Rick, was at the
Lincoln Reagan dinner. Oh, yeah. That's three
years ago. That's right, before we even had the
land. Yeah, the first time you spoke there, I
think it was the first one they had here, it
was an inaugural. And I remember, of course,
I love Laura and everybody else, but I was like...
That guy, I don't know what he does, but I need
to be in his proximity. And I look for that.
That's something all my life. I always look for
people that had something I wanted. Then I just
go after it. You know, whatever. I look them
up online nowadays. You can do a lot of things
digitally. I got mentors all over the world.
They don't even know they're my mentor. Right,
right. But that's the beauty of the digital world.
There's negative and positive. There's positive
a lot if you use it right. But I just remember
when you all were talking about coming to Fredericksburg.
Yeah, yeah. That night, I mean, we literally
threw it out there. You threw the carrot out.
Yeah, so we'd love to be. In fact, one of the
guys came up that night, Steve Morosevich lives
here, and he came up and said, if you come to
Fredericksburg. I'll write the first $10 ,000
check. So I have that piece of paper. He wrote
it on a piece of paper, and I texted him the
other day, and he did. As soon as we got the
place, he donated. And I told him the other day,
I said, man, I found that piece of paper where
you wrote that down. I said, we're going to frame
it and put it at the campus. But anyway, so that
night we didn't have the place yet. I think it's
interesting, though, that you felt that draw.
I think we might have met briefly that night.
I can't remember. I know you did the prayer that
night because I was the same way. I was like,
man, that guy's on fire. So think about that.
That would have been another year and a half.
before we came and visited the bridge. And I
remember that first Sunday in November of 2020.
That would have been November of 2023. And we
sat there. It was Cameron and Kara and me. We
were the only three out of the family that was
there. And they were on both sides of me. And
your sermon, man. I'm telling you, they're elbowing
me, bruising every rib. Every five minutes you're
saying something, they're like, did you hear
that? Did you hear that? And I'm looking around
for a camera going, is this Candy Camera? What's
going on? Who is this guy? Everything you said.
And then you put John Cooper's book up, Wimpy,
Weak, and Woke. I took a picture, sent it to
him, and I'm like, this guy's preaching from
your book. And it was just, I mean, it was so
obvious. I mean, we knew that Sunday. It took
that one sermon. We said, this is done now. We
waited. We were like, okay, let's just make sure.
Yeah, we'll make sure he's for real. Yeah, make
sure he's for real. He didn't just do that for
us. Right, right. And you didn't even know who
I was. I mean, you wouldn't have known. Well,
think about it. In a real sense, and I say this
a lot, I say, if you come to this church, you're
jumping on a moving train. Exactly. I mean, so
you kind of got to get up to speed a little bit
to jump on it, right, or rip your arms off. So
you guys came in as we were really moving down
the street. track. Um, God had just so arrested
my heart about what's going on in culture, not
just politics, culture in general. Politics is
a part of a much, you know, it's a cog in a big
wheel, right? Or a spoke in a big wheel. And,
um, but it just so happens that was more in the
line with what you were doing. And so I can't
not talk about that thing. The Lord really convicted
me of a number of years ago. We were in Abilene,
Texas. I i called up the mayor of abilene texas
back then it was mayor grady barr and i asked
his the gatekeeper his secretary and she was
the gatekeeper i said i'm a pastor at you know
a church in town just moved here and i would
like to meet with the mayor and she's like well
what would this be about i mean she just was
like a total gatekeeper and it was interesting
because i got a sense of pushback like I got
the feeling that when pastors called the mayor,
it was probably for a negative thing. Yeah, just
chewing him out for something. It was a complaint.
Yeah. And I just told her, I said, I just want
to meet with him and just be a blessing to him
and encourage him and thank him for his leadership
in the city. She said, oh, well, we got an opening
this week. And I mean, it happened that quick.
The defenses came down. Oh, totally. And I walked
into the office. She was super sweet. I met her.
I sat down with Mayor Barr. And I was a little
nervous. I'm younger. I was a lot younger. And
I'm like, I felt really led by the Lord to go
be a blessing. How can we support instead of
always tear down, right? And so I stepped into
his office. He has a guard up a little bit because
he's like, what's this guy want? And I just sat
in his chair. And by the way, the chair like
set me a foot lower than him. It was really bizarre
because he's a short man of stature. So he had
this tall chair. He arranged the room so he could
feel. His chair popped up and everything. And
I'm sitting there looking up at him like a little
kid. Alice in Wonderland. Totally weird. But
I was much younger than him. I would have done
that anyway. Posturing is sit below him to honor
him. But I just said, I'm just here. I'm a new
pastor in town and I want you to know our church,
we've been praying for you and praying for our
city, praying for our city council. And we want
to know how, I'd like to take back to our church
just some prayer points so that we can remember
to be lifting you up. And I said, because I don't
think that government and churches should be
at odds. I think we can work together to make
this a better place. And I sang his song apparently
because he invited me. Wow, man. Met with him
for the next year, every month, at least once
a month to go pray. in his office. I gave him
the scripture that first day. It was a Proverbs
11, 11. It says, by the blessing of the upright,
the city is exalted, but by the blessing of the
upright, the city is exalted, but by the mouth
of the wicked, it is torn apart. Man, you were
way ahead of the game. Oh, wow. He said, do you
have that on a piece of paper? And he took out
a sticky note, and I wrote it down for him. He
stuck it on his desk. And I didn't even know
if he's a believer or not, a Christian. He said
he sometimes prays, but, you know, you just don't
know. Is it God fear or what? So we built this
relationship together. And what he did, he started,
I'd go, I'm coming to his office. He's ready
for me next time. He had blueprints of the city,
city plats and rolling them out saying, here's
our flood issues. And here's where we got issues.
We got to fix these creeks. And we've got a no
smoking ban coming up, being placed before city
council. It's going to be a war. I mean, so he
started laying out everything. Well, that was
my first step into engaging culture outside the
four walls of the church. And that did something
in me. The day that he resigned, he was going
to resign. He was getting older. He was ready
to take. take his leave. He called me. He said,
you're the first. I haven't even told my wife.
He said, I'm calling you, Jimmy, because you've
walked with me this last year and a half, two
years. And he said, I want you to be the first
to know, and I want to invite you. I'm going
to make it public tomorrow. I'm going to do a
press conference, and you'll be the only non
-press in the room. Would you come with me? And
so I stepped in there, and I realized all that
did for me as a young man is it ignited something
in my heart to say, You know, we had a small
church. We didn't have a big footprint, but we
had, because of this, we had big influence. And
I realized if you can influence the influencers,
it doesn't matter how big your footprint is.
Yeah. And that's being salt and light. If you
can get their ear, get their heart, you can influence
the world, right? Amen. So that started me down
that track. So that's my background. That's a
totally different mindset than most. what most
are taught in seminary, right? It's like that
separation is truly a separation. We don't even
go in that arena. We stay inside the four walls
of the church. Yeah, you're going to run off
your tithers. You're going to run off people.
And I just remember... And that was before I
did this, obviously. I did go to seminary, and
I heard those kind of things. Fortunately, my
undergrad was with the Doug MacArthur Academy
of Freedom at Howard Payne University. They were
all poli -sci, and they were pro get involved,
get your hands dirty. So I think that was probably
where that seed was planted in me. So anyway,
good things. I love it, man. So why Patriot Academy?
I want to ask you this question. I was a youth
pastor for 15 years. I'm still one. I don't tell
anybody. I'm totally still that mindset. older
now helps to be a guitar player you know the
whole package right total total youth pastor
guy all these a clipboard and a whistle and i'm
good to go but uh so so the next generation generational
transfer is a big thing in my heart always has
been uh i remember we had a saying touch the
camp touch the campus touch the world yeah Or
touch the campus, reach the world. One of those.
Reach the campus, touch the world. I think that's
what it was. There it is. And that was one of
our mottos. And so we did a lot of campus ministry
back in the day, whether it was junior high,
middle school, junior high back then, middle
school and high school. But then we went on college
campuses all over the place. And so I'm curious
about what led you to begin to think about the
next generation. You know, it really was frustration
at the Capitol and realizing. I'm probably not
going to change hearts and minds here. They're
already dug in. They're already kind of in their
way. So how do we raise up the next generation
better? And Psalm 78 started kind of being a
guidebook. It was like, okay, that whole chapter
is essentially how to pass the torch of freedom
and not... fumble the baton as you're as you're
passing it and what what the negative effects
are if you don't pass it well and how you can
get the positive if you do and so we even named
we're called Patriot Academy today but the foundation's
actually called the Torch of Freedom Foundation
because it's literally about passing the torch
and then Patriot Academy is just a DBA of of
that so that that image in my mind was there
of okay how do we do this well how do we pass
the torch intact so we got to preserve it to
do that And then how do we teach them how to
receive the torch and then inspire them to preserve
it? So that sort of became the whole idea. And
that's why initially it was with the youth. But
then there was this quote by John Jay. He was
the first chief justice of the U .S. Supreme
Court. And he said that you've got to have every
generation know. And if they know their rights,
then they'll perceive when they're violated and
be the better prepared to defend and assert them.
But he had this phrase. He said, teach the rising
generation to be free. And I thought that was
always, for the first 10, 15 years of what we
were doing, I thought, well, that's the youth.
And then I started realizing, actually, every
generation, there's a rising generation in our
generation, in every generation, and just how
civically ignorant we were and how the church
had become civically ignorant too. Well, biblically
ignorant too, right? You got 9 % reading the
Bible, but very civically ignorant and going,
okay, we can change that. Ignorance is curable.
We just have to... be willing to take the time
to dive in, study these things. And when we do,
and that civic literacy goes up and biblical
literacy goes up, then truth, actually people,
you know, we always say truth will set you free,
but you got to know the truth. So finding that
truth, raising that literacy just became a total
mantra for us. Wow. I love that. When I met you,
well, actually the first time I heard you speak,
and you were talking about Patriot Academy, I
was like, this was exactly my mentality for so
many years is we've got to continue to raise
up. Of course, being in the church world, I'm
a professional Christian, as Alan Jackson says.
Being in the church world, we've watched churches
grow old, not so into the next generation, not
raise up the next generation, train them in the
way they should go, right? And when you're old,
you won't depart. They didn't do that. And so
what happened was these churches grew old, and
then their light went out. Yeah. They were gone.
They started to literally die, die off. And you
saw that generation getting essentially stolen
by the enemy because they weren't taught those
things. So when they go into the college or wherever
and all of the negative about the church, negative
about God, and they're challenged. I mean, a
lot of those professors, they literally set that
out as their goal to basically rob you of your
faith. I'm going to show you why you've been
lied to. And then if you're not ready to give
an answer like we're supposed to be. You feel
stupid, you feel unequipped, you know, and then
you're mad at your parents and your pastor and
everybody else for not equipping you, so you
walk away. So that's why you ended up with...
I mean, I saw studies that said 80 % of Christians
were walking away from the faith in college,
and it's because we failed to prepare them to
be ready to give an answer. Wow. You know, I've
always heard this statement, because that's so
spot on. You know, we're one generation away
from whatever. That's right. Paganism. That's
right. Loss of our freedoms. We're one generation
away, which means if we're not willing to, as
those forefathers had these great... vivid imagery
of laying down in the mud so that the next generation
can walk over them. And so we've got to be, and
I've always said it this way, we can't be the
ceiling for the next generation. We got to be
the floor. We got to be the launching pad. So
we hand them the baton. And at this level where
they continue to rise and run. And so I brought
on Pastor Brian, as you know, a year and a half
ago. And everybody's goo -goo over him. And here's
the deal. It's so exciting to me is I saw the
call of ministry on his life 20 -plus years ago
and invited him to come aboard. And he became
our youth pastor and just took off. And he's
one of those guys that I've been willing to lay
down in the mud for because I see this greatness
in him. Him and others like him. We've got others
in ministry all over the place. But to be able
to have him here close now, you know, I've hired
him three times. I said, dude, you cannot leave
three times. This is it, man. This is it. But
it's because we've walked together. Anytime he
left, he left with blessing. He left with honor.
And he's returned with honor. There were seasons
probably that he needed. Absolutely. That convergence
you were talking about, all those things he went
and did, I bet I have no idea what he was doing.
Nine years of business. There's no doubt. In
the business world. And military and all of that.
All of it came back together. And so I just see
that. That's so important that we continue to
raise up the next generation and pour into them.
So thank you. Too much of ministry dies because
we don't, right? You get these personality types,
and God does great things through them, but then
when they're gone, that whole thing dies because
they didn't pass the torch well. They hang on
to it. Yeah. They're not willing to let go. And
that's where I'm at with Pastor Brian. I'm just
giving him more and letting him run with WWJD,
our discipleship core class. Dude, those Wednesday
nights, man, I've been bragging about on y 'all
all over the country because it's exactly what
the church needs. Because that depth that y 'all
are going into is preparing us as the congregation
to be able to go be ready to answer whenever
these things come up and to just be better disciples
to go live that stuff out. So y 'all are doing
a phenomenal job. know I've told you this in
front of other people at church, but... It always
seems like everywhere I've been before, if the
pastor's not there and the second guy gets up,
you're like, but not here, man. It could be either
one of y 'all walking up on Sunday morning. You
know you're going to be fed well. You're just
blessed to have him as your assistant pastor.
What's his official title? I don't even know.
Executive pastor. Executive pastor. Okay, got
it. Yeah, yeah. No B team here, brother. No B
team. That's exactly right. And that's it, empowering
people to rise up and lead. I was taught by good
leaders that the best thing you can do is bring
smarter. better people around you. Exactly. And
then that'll elevate you as well. So iron sharpens
iron, right? Amen. Amen. So let's continue. Let's
get back on with you because, man, just super
excited to have you. And this won't be the first
time, brother. We're going to have you on as
a regular because I think it's important. So
you've been called America's constitutional coach.
How did that title come about and where did that
come out of? We just, man, we made it fun actually
to study the constitution. So more people were
willing to, which was a boring topic to me in
high school. in college. I hated history. I hated
government. I slept through that. Then I found
David Barton. Somebody gave me a cassette tape
of David Barton. I'm going to show my age here,
cassette tape. All of a sudden, I was looking
at history through the eyes of the people that
experienced it. He was so good at telling the
stories, making you feel like you were going
in a time machine. I adopted that from him. Then
being raised on Zig Ziglar and him being one
of my mentors, more his style of teaching. David
was so good at this. When I first went to work
for David, Wow, 2001, so 24 years ago. He said,
Rick, you don't need to be me. Don't try to just
duplicate exactly what I'm doing. Take what I've
got and then put your style on it, right? Go
be you. Just use the content, but do it in your
style, which my style is very different. I'm
more of a Zig Ziglar type, motivational exhorter.
David's more professor -like, right? And so we
had two totally different styles, which ended
up for wall builders being great because it made
our radio show alive. And then I'd go talk to
these Amway groups and big conventions and sales
groups and people that wanted it to be more of
a motivational thing. Anyway, so that turned
out to be a really good combination for what...
made the Constitution classes entertaining and
exciting. And then we went to the historical
sites and brought it to life. And so we put,
man, we put so many people through the Constitution
classes. And then it became during COVID, that's
when we got the moniker America's Constitution
Coach because all these people were going, okay.
Can they do this to us? You know, does government
have the power to do this? What's constitutional?
What's not? People, for the first time, really
start asking questions. You know, they actually,
instead of trying to get them to pay attention,
it was at their front door. This is why I say
we don't chase politics. It showed up at our
front door. It showed up at our front door. Exactly
like you said. So that really opened the door.
We went from, I think right before COVID, we
had about 200 Constitution coaches. Oh, my. We
now have 30 ,000. Oh, my. So it just exploded
because of. The first time that most people had
experienced the Buddha government on their neck
in America and became so close to seeing everything
crumble that all of a sudden people woke up and
said, you know what? Like you said, it's one
generation away, and I haven't done a good job
of learning this myself, and I certainly haven't
done a good job of teaching my kids. Where can
I go to learn it? And so that's where Patriot
Academy was. I think God had been preparing us,
obviously, for 20 years to be ready for that
moment and step into that gap and teach that.
And it's been fun, honestly, to see those light
bulbs come on, see people get excited. People
hungry for it. Yeah, yeah. It's one thing to
teach a crowd that's not really hungry. You're
working. Oh, yeah, man. But when you teach people
who are hungry, it pulls it out of you. I'm telling
you. That's when a teacher, a coach. You're in
the sweet spot. Because normally, and you probably
like this too, when I go speak at a group, I
always have to tell myself, okay, if just one
person gets it. If one person gets it, that's
why I'm here. Get yourself going. Yeah, and that's
enough for me to do it. But now it's like. I
mean, everybody's really into it. Well, listen,
we did biblical citizenship here, and, bro, that's
one of the best things we ever did. By the way,
I don't know if I even told you this, but we
actually leveraged the energy from biblical citizenship.
We did eight weeks here at the church, had phenomenal
turnout for that. Yeah, that was awesome. Nearly
200 people every night. And that's when we were
like, this is the time to drop the WWJD because
we've got people in the habit of coming. So you
just segued right off. Springboard from that.
We call that movement in church world where you
want to move from one thing to another and not
let this gap happen because people lose momentum,
get out of the habit. But that class was so...
For me, this is where I learned about the National
Monument to the Forefathers. Kirk Cameron did
a phenomenal job teaching around that thing.
I had not seen the movie Monumental. I've seen
it now since. But he basically took what he learned
from that and compressed it into a phenomenal
teaching on this amazing monument. He's such
a gifted teacher, too. He really is. Again, making
it fun, making it entertaining. applicable to
our lives right instead of just this old monument
it's like what do these things mean and then
he takes it and goes okay here's what we need
to do with it i love kirk man he's so good at
that So good. So I do have some paraphernalia
on here for a reason. Awesome. And one is because
when I started really reengaging culture and
stepping into the space, I realized how much
I didn't know or had just forgotten from college
and high school. It's been a minute. So at my
age, and I was like, I need resources. I need
help. And with you coming along, so I'm going
to show some things. First of all, I like this
book pretty good. I might recommend this. You
better stay away from that guy, man. You'll be
on Right Wing Watch's most hated list. I read
this on the airplane. I thought we were going
down. So this is a great book by Rick. What moved
you to write this book, by the way? Because everyone
needs to read this book, literally. If you're
stepping into this space for the first time and
you're beginning to relearn and re -remind yourself,
this is one of the best books out of everything
I've read. Thank you, man. I'm not just blowing
smoke. I really mean that. It helped Lee. actually
turned me on to this and lit him up. And I said,
if it's lighting Lee up, I got to read this book.
And I did. In fact, I read most of it on an airplane.
And so what, what inspired you to, to get this?
Well, two, two things. First of all, Newt Gingrich
gave a talk on the declaration of independence
that just lit me up. Like that made me want to
break down. what I call in the book, the frame,
freedom's frame, and really understand how to
apply the Declaration to today. And then David
Barton's book, Original Intent, is so good, but
it's so big and so thick and so scholarly that
I knew that most people like me... would not
get through it. Which that would be me. Yeah,
so I was like, I need a dumbed -down version
of Barton's original intent. Remember those yellow
books? Yeah, it was like the Cliff Notes, right?
For dummies. Constitution for dummies. That's
what I should have called it. Declaration for
dummies. Put a little cover on it. Yeah, so those
two things converged to write that book. And
I had actually kind of, you know, we talked about
Zig. I had sent Zig back in... I don't know,
93, 94. I had sent him a book that I had written,
and I sent him the book, and I asked him to do
the foreword on it. And he calls me, and he says,
he said, Rick, I know three things. There is
a God, I'm not him, and neither are you. Burn
the book. I was like, what? I was like 25 years
old, and it was such an arrogant book. Honestly,
I'd gotten into Tony Robbins and a lot of this
stuff, and a lot of it was humanist, almost new
age. I had my scripture in there, but it was
very clear I was leaning too far into that stuff,
and Zig knew. He instantly recognized it, and
he was like, Rick, I'm telling you, when you
get a little older, you're going to wish you
hadn't written this book. Of course, I hang up
the phone, and I'm thinking, oh, the old man
just doesn't get it. Jimmy, it wasn't six months.
I was trying to get every copy and burn it. I'm
not kidding you, man. And so 10 years later.
No, it would have been longer than that. It would
have been almost 13 years later. I had been seeing
Zig on the circuit. Like, I got to open for him
at this event. And I'm doing all these. And when
I opened for him at this big event in Houston.
Well, I was nervous because it was a big crowd.
It was like 7 ,500 people. I'd never spoken in
front of that many people. And I'm going on right
before Zig Ziglar. And so I'm backstage, nervous
as I can be, and Zig could tell. And so he comes
over and he prays for me. And so I go out and
give the speech. I get a standing ovation. I
come back, and he comes over to me, and he goes,
now you're ready to write that book. Wow. And
so I'm in tears, you know. Oh, my gosh. I write
Freedom's Frame. I send it to him. And actually,
it was a couple years later because every time
I'd see him, he'd be like, how's that book coming,
Rick? How's that book coming? I'm working on
it. I'm working on it. We need people to go to
us. Don't we? Yes, no doubt. And I, and I probably,
I don't know if I would have actually finished
if it hadn't been for him continuing. Cause he's
my hero. You know what I mean? This is like the
guy that I was raised on. Yes. I mean all of
that. And so anyway, when I sent him the book
and he sent me back the forward. Bro, I don't
remember where I was in the country, but I remember
being in a hotel room, and I was bawling like
a baby. It was just like that. For him to write
that forward 15 years later, after he had told
me with that first book I wasn't ready, it was
a big deal. Anyway, so that all led to writing
that book so that people would rediscover these
principles and declaration. And like Zig says
in the foreword, it's basically for every citizen.
just to understand the principles that made America
great. It's very much like the monument. And
then what can you do about it? So a lot of it's
action steps too. It's beautiful. And tell us
where anybody's watching or listening. PatriotAcademy
.com. There you go. PatriotAcademy .com, easiest
place to get it. And in fact, we've got a new
course coming out later this summer. We're going
to launch it on July 4th, of course, because
we're... As of today, while we're recording,
we're 411 days from the 250th birthday of the
nation. So it's the countdown is there. Yeah.
And so we want to launch this new course. We're
going to call it a blueprint for rebuilding liberty
with truth, justice, and the biblical way. So
I'm a Superman fan, right? Truth, justice, and
the American way. But the American way is essentially
the biblical way. That's how the nation was built.
And so it'll basically be an upgrade to Freedom's
Frame, but in a video course that'll kind of
like biblical citizenship, but a shorter one,
like a four -week one. Something you can do online,
too. I mean, that's beautiful. And the goal is
to just talk about for the next year the Declaration
so that on the 250th, July 4th, everybody can
revive those principles of the Declaration. Some
of the most inspirational words for me stepping
back into this world after being... out of it
for so long and then when the lord totally brought
me back in where the declaration of independence
is that preamble i mean that opening is like
it's genius i've it's one of those beautiful
pieces of literature i've ever read to where
when i read it i get emotional yeah i can barely
read i think i think jefferson was absolutely
god inspired to do it i was at a rotary club
this morning and i had forgotten that their first
thing that they you know they do their little
their four step thing that they put and the first
one is first Is it true? And so after they did
that, I just springboarded off that, and I was
like, you guys realize we're about to celebrate
the Declaration of Independence. We hold these
truths. And if you don't build on truth, the
whole culture falls apart. And that's what happened
to us as we started buying into moral relativism.
There is no truth. Anything goes. Everybody has
their own truth. Now, wait a minute. UBU. Yeah,
UBU, whatever that is. Whatever, it's okay. So
getting back to we hold these truths. truths
to be self -evident is critical. Not my truth.
Not my truth. These truths. The truth. Oh, brother.
Oh, get me going on that. Here's another good
one. I want to get some resources to people.
This was recommended to me by another pastor
friend. America's God and Country by William
Federer. Bill Federer is a national treasure.
That guy, when I have him on radio, you ought
to get him on your show, man. When I have him
on, I just ask one question, and 30 minutes later,
the show is full of incredible information. I'm
telling you. You've got to be intimidating. He's
like Barton, walking encyclopedia, man. I'd be
like a little kid, you know. He's great, but
great guy, and he has the most random stuff.
Like, you want to know about St. Nick and how
Christmas and all that? He will just, he's got
it all, man. He just gives that whole history.
He's got some good Instagram shorts right now
where he does these little shorts like that.
He's great. Totally awesome. Now, here's another
great one. David and Tim Barton. Yeah, man. This
one is, man. I got to get you the volume two.
So they've got volume two out. I knew that. And
they're working on volume three. But, man, that's
gold right there, the American story. I mean,
what I do, they're doing it in sections. They're
doing it in sections of time. And, again, so
good, so rich, chock full. I mean, you can't
go wrong on this. It responds to so many of the
lies about who we are as a people and our history.
It's just really good. Here's one. This is by
Gary DeMar. Yeah, Gary's great. Another great
book, America's Christian History, The Untold
Story. Love is Approach. Actually, this was one
that Kurt Cameron was recommending. And it's
so unusual for Gary to have a book that's less
than six inches thick. So that's a great one
to have because most of his are anchor weights.
And there's pictures. And there's pictures. For
guys like us. So the country boy, I can get through
it, yeah. And I have to tell you, one of my favorites
that is my go -to ongoing, and this thing is
a beast, it's the Founder's Bible. Oh, man. And
this was, I mean, it's the New American Standard
text of the Bible, but interspersed throughout
it are vignettes and short articles on all things
founding fathers, all things original documents.
Biblical application. I mean, it really is based.
Basically, I think it's the best thing David
Barton... has put out in his whole life because
when I read that and I read through it every
year and I'm able to read the scripture and then
read about somebody in history using that scripture
in life, then it makes me start thinking, okay,
how can I use this scripture in life? So it just
gets us in the right mindset. The Bible's practical
for everyday life. I love his treatment of the
monuments too. He has some great things on the
monuments. If you've ever been to DC, which I've
been many times. And even the artwork, there's
such good, the artwork in there is incredible.
highly recommend how can people get this patriot
academy .com or wallbuilders .com you get it
either place and there's a digital version too
so you can get it on your you know like when
i'm on the plane i read it on because that thing's
heavy because it's mine's hardback too so it's
even heavier uh but the yeah so you can do the
app or you can um get that at patriot academy
.com and it's a great present, too, to just give
to people. Just like Adam giving it to Rogan.
That was huge, man. This was a gift from Jonathan
Edwards gave this to me. Did he really? Oh, I
love it. Such a blessing. And he did a great
job with Biblical Citizenship, man. He did. He
did. So, man, we're talking about a lot. You
guys, we had you here to do the Comedy and Constitution
show. That was fun, yeah. That was amazing. Brad's
a master. He's a master communicator. Brad Stein,
he knows how to, he's a master of rhetoric, and
he's so good at having you laugh in one minute
and then just, oh. Punching you in the gut with
some truth. Love Brad. Twice I was on my guard.
I was like, something's coming. Right, right.
He is that good, and he is brilliant. He is a
great thinker. You should have seen him with
the Moms for Liberty. We had 150 of them out
at the campus a couple weeks ago. Oh, my God.
That was the week we were out. You know how he
picks on everybody? It was just hilarious, man.
Just imagine him and 150 Moms for Liberty. I
was going to say, in that environment, I can
imagine. I've got thoughts. We love them, though.
We're so thankful that their leaders come to
our church. And God has done something really
unique in this convergence thing we were talking
about. The Lord brought you guys here, and we
just knit together. We knit hearts. But he also
brought the Moms for Liberty here. He's brought
the J6ers here. A lot of the J6ers here, yes.
And I got to meet Luke Cooper. Coffee or Cooper?
Coffee or Cooper. Yeah, coffee. But Luke and
we're going to go get coffee and get some time
together. He's doing a podcast now with Laura
Logan. I didn't know that. Yeah, they just started
this. He's moved here. That's awesome. Yeah,
he lives here now. When you stop and look at
who God has brought here, Justice Devine, he
pops in and out of here. Yeah, great guy. He
loves coming over here. He comes out and hangs
out. My favorite judge in the whole country.
Even more than, well, Clarence Thomas and Justice
Devine are close, but he's on our Texas Supreme
Court. We need him. Stay in the course. Even
the body of church, even the church here, I don't
think there's a profession. or a background not
represented in this church. I agree. You know
what I mean? I agree. It's just a wealth of experience.
We've got an international arms dealer. I mean,
we've got a guy who sells jets to Nicaragua and
Brazil. It's mind -bending. Every Sunday I stand
up there and, first of all, I think, I get to
do this. This is such a privilege. Well, I think
that, too, is going to be part of the next chapter,
is those people within our church that have so
much to give and so much wisdom. And the reason
Patriot Academy is here is to bring the kids
here for those people to mentor. And I don't
know how it's all going to work out or exactly
how it's going to play out, but I just see that,
man. Because you can see the... it's almost like
they're pregnant with purpose that they that
not not for themselves right like i i tell kids
sometimes you're pregnant with purpose but That's
for what God's going to do in their life. These
people are pregnant with purpose to pour into
those kids. You know what I'm saying? It's like,
anyway, I don't know how that's all going to
play out. In our men's breakfast, our legacy
men's breakfast, we had like 127 at the last
one. And then of all people, Pastor Leon Benjamin
from the White House Office of Faith shows up
randomly because he had done a podcast. He was
here with Laura, right? Yeah, he was with Laura.
So Joe Burkett and David Young. Drag him to a
men's break. Poor guy was probably wiped out.
And who are these people you're going to take
me to? Yeah. And then he shows up, and he kept
turning me. I brought him up on the platform,
let him share a thing. He kept turning me, going,
there's fire in this room. There's fire. There's
fire. Revivals. I mean, he got it. He got what
we know. And I'm telling you, those guys, he
and Paula White and all those on that faith council.
In fact, Barton and I were just talking last
night. He was just at the White House yesterday
with all of them. And he said, Rick, I've never
seen people of faith have this much access and
direct work with the president of the United
States. So that's not just some figurehead. It's
not like President Trump said. which is what
I'm cynical about some of that stuff. It's like,
oh, he's just giving them lip service. He's giving
them a little name, a little office way over
there in the West Wing or whatever. No, man,
they are literally in the middle of everything.
So that whole thing that's happening right now
is being bathed in prayer. It's phenomenal. I
mean, I haven't seen it in my lifetime, so I
don't know what God's plan is for all of this.
But he's moving, bro. Conversions, brother. It's
all coming together. These streams are merging
and becoming a force. Amen. A force. Force multiplies,
you say. I love that term. Love that term. Tell
us what's the best way for us to see you. I mean,
you've got a great podcast called The Tavern.
Thank you, thank you. Which has been huge. We're
working on getting it onto our Godcast. Yeah,
we've got to get that and Wall Builders. You
know, Wall Builders radio is daily. It's only
about 30 minutes, and it's David Barton, Tim
Barton, and myself, and every day is some sort
of biblical, basically what we always say is
biblical, historical, constitutional perspective.
So whatever's going on, whatever the hot take
is that's going on in the world. We'll break
it down and say, here's the biblical perspective
on it. Here's what's happening in history. So
we know what works, doesn't work. And here's
how it plays out constitutionally. Because with
this administration, there's a lot of, Trump's
moving so fast with so many of these things.
There's a lot of questions about what's constitutional,
what's not. And so for us to be able to come
in and bring that history, and especially with
some of these judges that are trying to stop
what the president's doing. Perfect example would
be taking these 250 gang members, put them on
a plane, sending them back where they came from.
And this judge is trying to stop it. And there's
very clear constitutional authority for the president.
And there's even a congressional act, the Alien
Act, where the Congress gave that power to the
president and said the courts can't even review
it. We call it positive exception in Article
3. And so the court doesn't even get to say whether
or not the president can take them out. Anyway,
that kind of education. I love that, too, the
way President Trump said, oh, sorry, they're
already out of U .S. airspace. Anyway, there's
a lot of takes like that. That's called The Wall
Builders Show, and you can get that at wallbuilders
.show or at wallbuilders .com. And then The Tavern
you can get on patriotu .com or hopefully soon
on Hello Fred. And then American Family Association,
they've got about 300 stations around the country,
and I do a live call -in show for them twice
a week. Tuesdays and Thursdays, 1 to 2. So that's
AFR .org. But also Flashpoint. Oh, yeah, and
then Flashpoint. Yeah, huge. Bro, 10 to 1, people
will tell me. And I used to do Newsmax and Just
the News, and I'd just do all these shows, and
I'd get worn out. But 10 to 1, people say, I
saw you on Flashpoint. So Carrie and I were like,
let's stop doing all the other shows and let's
just do Flashpoint. And so I do that one Monday
and Tuesday nights, so 7 to 8. I love that. We
try to keep up with it. There's so many of them.
There's so much. The Lord's blessed that big
time. It was kind of that convergence thing because
it was a lot of different. You got prophet -type
guys and other guys, and then here I come with
a kind of constitutional country boy coming in.
It's just been an interesting mix that people
love. And I love that, too. At first, I was taken
aback by it. little bit. And then I watched it
a few times. I thought, Oh, I get it, man. I
see what God's doing here. It's a tapestry. He's
pulling it all together. So I've really, really
dug in and enjoyed that. So, um, last thing I
want to do before we land the plane, cause I'm
glad we, I wanted to get your information out
there, but, um, Man, you know, they just dropped
80 ,000 -plus documents on JFK. Yeah. And social
media is going berserk. I spent a little bit—I
try not to, but I spent a little time last night.
Yeah, I tried to last night, too. We just sat
and watched—got on and reading stuff back and
forth. And what's your hot take on that? Because,
I mean, already people are already pointing the
finger at Israel, saying, you know, Mossad was
involved. You know, I mean, LBJ. I mean, you
go down the list. Bush. I mean, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom. All these dominoes are starting to
tip and fall. So what's your hot take on just
what's happening? You know, I don't know what
the specifics are going to be that come out,
but I love the transparency. I mean, I am so
excited about what Elon Musk is doing and what
Trump is willing to do, what RFK has been pushing
for. I think we've been hungry for that for a
long time. Part of the reason there's been this
lack of patriotism and cynicism is because of
all the cover -ups and because of this kind of
stuff that they've hidden from us. So I don't
know what's actually going to come out. I remember
Anna Paulina, whatever her name is, from Florida,
the first thing she said was, this evidence will
prove there was a second shooter. So that, right
off the bat, was like, okay, this is going to
rock everybody's world a little bit because it
just proves there was a cover -up. So whatever
was there that wasn't let out. We'll see. Second
shooter, was it all backed by LBJ? I mean, LBJ,
he was a nasty character. I mean, even the church
today is impacted by his 1954 Johnson Amendment
when he was a senator, and his whole reason he
did that was retaliation against pastors in Texas,
because they had campaigned against him in the
Senate race, they knew he was not an ethical
guy, and so he was doing that to hurt the church.
And we're, what, 70 years later, man, and it's
still hurting the church? Anyway, he was a nasty
character. Wouldn't shock me a bit if he was
involved in that. One of those recordings is
already out that this guy's at least, he's talking
to this Billy Saul Estes guy, and he's literally
saying that. that Johnson wanted to hit on. Anyway,
so I don't know how much of that's going to end
up getting proven, but I remember one of my other
mentors was a guy named Dr. Charles Jarvis. He
was kind of a comedy after dinner speaker, actually
lived right over here in San Marcos, Texas. And
I grew up listening to him with my dad when we'd
be driving on the road. And so half my comedy,
I stole from him, jokes that I even use today.
But he used to joke about the Billy Saw Estes
case and the most motivated suicide in history.
Because there was a guy that literally had five
gunshot wounds and a wound to the head, and they
ruled it a suicide. Right. That's a motivated
suicide right there, brother. Of course it's
a suicide. But it was something to do with Johnson.
Wow. I don't know what's going to come out, man,
but I love the fact that it's coming out. And
I think the Epstein stuff, all of that, I try
not to go too far down the rabbit hole and get
too caught up in a lot of that stuff because
you can live there. Yes. But I want people to
be able to have that. at their fingertips. And
I get national security, and the Constitution
even has a clause in there about it doesn't have
to go in the journal if there's national... So
I understand that, but... 70 years? I mean, the
MLK stuff, the JFK stuff, the RFK stuff, all
of that should have been released a long time
ago. And it's now history, and it needs to be
a part of our history, good or bad. Yeah, that's
right. Good or bad needs to be there. We can
handle it. I mean, the American people are mature
enough to handle the good, the bad, and the ugly.
And if we would teach it like that, that's one
of the things David taught me early on. Don't
run from the bad. We're not these Pollyanna wave
the flag just to feel good people. We're going
to tell the good, the bad, and the ugly because
we know on... On par, when you compare the American
story to any other nation in history, it is the
greatest nation that has ever been. And so we
don't mind telling the ugly. Because we can tell
the good with that. That's so good. I'm going
to steal this from you. Where are people trying
to come? Where are they trying to get in? That's
right. There's no tunnels trying to get into
North Korea. There ain't no Cuban dream. There
ain't no North Korean dream. It's the American
dream. And they're not going the other way. There's
a reason for that. American exceptionalism is
alive and well. I think we're in for some of
our best days. I really am. Six months ago, I
heard you stand in front of a crowd at a Remnant
Alliance meeting and say, we could be looking
at... the end. of an empire yeah and i remember
that day we were over in lano texas and i and
i i felt i felt your weight yeah and because
it was resonating because we were all starting
to wonder it's probably seven eight months ago
now yeah and we were all starting to wonder because
it was looking real bad there for a minute oh
but god oh but god man we were we were bible
suddenly yeah immediately yeah i love those yeah
they're still possible we've just seen one walked
out and he's doing he's doing it beyond anything
i would have dreamed i mean i when i was giving
that speech i was thinking okay, we're teetering
between liberty and tyranny, and if we put our
shoulder in, we can hopefully save this thing
and push it back into liberty. He's done... Far
more. I mean, God has moved in such a mighty
way. He's changing hearts. The harvest you were
talking about Sunday, I mean, these kids that
are coming to the Lord, these college campuses,
all this stuff, this interest in the Bible, you
just go down the list. I mean, God is moving
in a powerful, powerful way. And I think what
you said, I think America's best days are ahead
because of that. And if we will restore, and
we see it in the Old Testament over and over
again, when they came back to God, when they
came back to the truth, they were blessed, and
they experienced a season of prosperity. and
all those things. And I think we're in for that,
man. I think we're rediscovering those truths
and falling in love with them again. And as a
result, our kids are going to live in a better
place. Beautiful, Rick. Thank you. One last thing
before we go. This is what I want you to end
with. There are people who are going to watch
this or listen, and they're going to say, where
do I start? The resources are overwhelming. And
it's kind of like going to eat at, what's that
one place? Cheesecake Factory. You got a 30 page
menu. Right. You get frozen. You're doing headlights
because it's too much. That happens to this.
Yeah, absolutely. Go to In -N -Out Burger and
it's like. Simple. I'll take it. I'll take that.
You know, just add some grilled onions. Yeah,
that's it. I mean, it's that simple. But so what
would you tell people who are like. I want to
be informed, but I don't know where to go. There's
so many news outlets. I don't know who to believe.
What's a good kind of just a real simple step
in? Give them an on -ramp into getting resourced.
Well, it sounds very self -serving, but no kidding.
Go to patriotacademy .com. Start with that book,
Freedom's Frame. It's the simplest, easiest place
to go. And if you don't want to get together
with a group to do biblical citizenship, at least
walk through those videos by yourself, but I
highly recommend doing it with friends and family
because, again, it's when the video's over and
you can talk about it. So make that commitment
of two hours a week to just get with some friends
once a week, have some coffee and cake or whatever
in the living room, watch the video, and then
sit around and talk about it. That's a great
on -ramp because there's so much there and there's
a lot of depth, but you'll figure out when you
go through that class. Which direction do I want
to go with this? What's God putting on my heart?
So that's the two things I start with, freedom's
frame and biblical citizenship. Great. Fantastic,
Rick. Rick, thank you, brother. Love you, man.
Amen. Good to be with you. Yes. At least once
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