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All right. You about ready to kick it off? I'm

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going to start off with prayer today. Okay. And

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you are beautiful. So, so love the colors. Thank

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you. I have to get you to wake up, though. You're

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going to need some more coffee. I know. Father,

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in the name of Jesus, thank you for the privilege

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of doing this podcast. Lord, our heart and our

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prayers to help people in whatever way we can,

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mind, body, and spirit. So, Lord, as we talk

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today and share and converse, Lord, may what

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is said honor you, glorify you, and literally

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bring lift into the lives of others in Jesus'

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name. And everybody said. Everybody. Everybody

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said. Everybody. This is Jimmy and Annette, and

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we are coming to you from the studio at Bridge

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Church in Fredericksburg, Texas. Hello, beautiful.

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Hello. Stunning as always. It's been a while.

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It's been a minute. You've been interviewing

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a lot of other people. That is true. I've been

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pretty busy. You've been very busy. I have. You've

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been stuck, too. You've been grounded. I was

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stuck, and now I'm not stuck, but the kitchen's...

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It's not just the kitchen. Kitchen, bathroom,

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utility room. It's still not done. Yeah. How

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long have we been doing this? This has been an

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ongoing saga, so to speak. Almost 14 months.

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Yeah. It's been a while. It's been a minute.

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14 months. But the last six weeks have been like...

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Oh, man. I know. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's

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crazy. Like lightning, but not fast enough. Yeah,

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I know. I know. Well, time has passed. I'm glad

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we're back on the podcast together. We traveled

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last week, so we didn't do one. Hey, it was my

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idea to do it today. That was your idea, and

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I'm like uber proud. I know. You almost fell

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over. I almost did. You would have had to pick

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me up. Yeah. Fan me. Well, we had such a great

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week. Wow. Because we took our vacation, and

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then we had a meetup, which we'll talk about

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today, with our carnivore friends. The highlight.

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Absolutely amazing. No, I shouldn't say that.

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I got to see our grandson for the first time.

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That was definitely the highlight. We had two

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highlights. Colin James Lighthizer. Colin James

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Pruitt Lighthizer. Is Pruitt still in there?

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I forgot that. They kept that name. He's going

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to have a complicated name. I feel sorry for

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him. K -J -P -L. That's a pretty lengthy initials.

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That sounds like a radio station. I know it does.

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Four letters, right? But he looks like a linebacker.

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I mean, he looks like he's ready to get on the

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gridiron and go hit somebody. You know, it was

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hard on me because all of our grandkids live

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away from us. And Alicia always lived really

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close to us, so I got to be somewhat close to

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our grandkids. And now she's in Nashville, so

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we have to travel. They're a lot. Darn. Oh my

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gosh. Oh darn. Have to go to Nashville. Because

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I have to, he needs to know his Nana. Our kids

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are really spread out. I mean, that's, it's kind

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of the sign of the times, right? People are mobile,

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jobs are all over. Our family's in ministry.

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So that puts us, takes us all over the place.

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And so anyway, our kids in Houston, our kids

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in Nashville, and one of them, thank the Lord,

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is here. And her husband, Brandon, Faith and

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Brandon. So we're thrilled that they're under

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us. And we have a granddaughter in California.

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So they're everywhere. Wow. We want to welcome

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our listeners today. So glad that you joined

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us today. So good to have Pastor Annette, Mama

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A, Dame Annette back. So happy, happy. Nana?

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Well, I think you've had some good interviews

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and you've got some more coming up. It's been

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great. In your pocket that you're waiting in.

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By the way, I got invited today, this morning.

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I didn't get a chance to tell you. TD from the

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Texas Boys. Oh. We met them at the meetup in

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Austin. He invited me. He wrote me this morning

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and invited me. I was wondering if he was going

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to do that. Yeah. I thought, they need to have

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you on there. Well, I'm a Texas boy, so I'll

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fit right in with their family. They have a huge

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family. They do homesteading, and they do carnivore.

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They have a ranch. They raise their own cattle.

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And they showed the pictures. them and talked

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about their at our meetup and it was shocking

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to see the difference. Yeah, they have a great

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carnivore journey story, which we're going to

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talk a little bit about carnivore today because

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this is a part of our lives. So here's how we

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approach this podcast. And really, this is how

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we approach life. We don't really do anything

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different on a podcast than we do in real life.

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These conversations we have here with you basically

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are the conversations we have. We just turn a

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microphone on and it's our life. But mind, body

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and spirit, living a life of balance, living

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a life. of integrity, of integration. So taking

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these parts, the mind, the mental state, the

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body, obviously the physical and the spirit,

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our walk, our faith life, those all integrate

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into a whole person, right? Mind, body, spirit.

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And so if any one of those are pulled out or

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shorter or not. not in balance with the others,

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then it doesn't work. It's dysfunctional. And

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so we bring all that to the table. So we've not

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talked as much about our carnivore journey because

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we always want to be sensitive to where people

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are, but we realized this is who we are. We can't

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not talk about it. We were invited to a meetup

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in Austin. Talk about that. Because we're featured

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in a documentary that is being made right now

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for Netflix and a series. And we were featured

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in it. They actually came to our church and our

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home and filmed us. And now they're doing all

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these meetups all over America, just trying to

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raise money for this documentary, which they're

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getting close. And so we were able to attend.

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We just piggybacked it from our vacation. And

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it was probably one of the most ministry -oriented.

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things that we've been to that was actually a

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secular event because it wasn't a Christian event

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but someone even approached you and said is this

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a Christian event and you know would a Muslim

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be you know welcomed and you're like well of

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course and I had to remind him no it's not a

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Christian event it just so happens that people

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that are stewarding their health and taking care

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of themselves tend to lean towards a faith life.

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And so, but we're going to be who we are, wherever

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we are, you know, we don't apologize for who

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we, he was totally cool with it. Yeah. And it

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was awesome, but it, it really, uh, it first

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for what you said, because you talked about the

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three legged stool as we were, as we were, you

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know, presenting our story to the people there,

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it, it, it just lent itself. For us to be able

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to just talk about our faith and where we're

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at. And I loved that. I felt like that was so

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important because even people came up to us afterwards

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and said, can we sit with you? Can we, you know,

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and they wanted to talk to us. They wanted to

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know about our church. And it was just. it was

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pretty remarkable what happened there. It infused

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my faith. I love that we got to meet with Dr.

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Kiltz. And I want you to talk about the podcast

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we were on with him on Sunday, because he's writing

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a book called Christ and Carnivore. And that's

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how we feel. We feel like we're bringing Christ

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into every area of our life. Why not into our

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carnivore journey? Exactly. Because it's not

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like, how can you, you can't separate yourself.

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You know what I mean? One of the things that's,

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really typical of Western people, we're Western

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people, is that we tend to categorize or compartmentalize

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our lives to where, you know, we wear this hat

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in this environment, we'll wear this hat. But

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I'm calling us all back to integrity, integration,

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where we're not, we don't live like a chameleon,

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you know, to be a person who's a person of faith,

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a person who takes care of themselves and stewards

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all our attitude about. taking care of ourselves

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and our health is not about vanity. Probably

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wasn't when we were younger. You know, you want

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to look good, but as we've gotten older, I mean,

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it's more about I'm 63. You're still 62. You

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have not crossed over the line. I'm not going

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to cross over. What, two weeks? You're about

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two weeks. So we'll both be 63. And yet we're

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probably in our prime health that we've ever

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been in overall. Overall. We're functional. We're

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energetic. We're busy. We're busier now than

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we've ever been in our entire careers, our lives.

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And we get to do it. But we need the energy.

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We need the energy. Because we're so busy. And

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so that means you need to get on some kind of

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health. so that you can go the long haul. I mean,

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isn't that what we're trying to do? That is.

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And another piece of that I was going to say

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is the stewarding of our body because it's a

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gift from God. God gave us our physical bodies,

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and then he gives us a choice and the ability

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to put the right things into the body, the right

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fuel into the gas tank. If you put diesel in

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a gasoline engine, it's not going to run. It's

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going to ruin that engine or it's going to, you

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know, it's going to not work, won't function.

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And so we're trying to just put the right kind

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of fuel in our bodies and be healthy, not just

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to survive, but to truly thrive. Jesus said in

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John chapter 10, verse 10, I've come that you

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might have life and have life to the full. Another

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translation says have life and have it more abundantly.

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So we're looking for that abundant life. And

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like you said, this is exactly, you nailed it.

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And that is to finish strong. We want to live

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however long we have on this earth, whether it's

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getting taken out by an accident or some kind

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of health event or whatever, however long that

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is. And we know we've got friends our age that

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are long gone, you know, at this age. We see

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it happening all around us. Well, when you were

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talking about the funerals that you did, you've

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talked about it quite a bit on different events.

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You've had that opportunity. But you didn't say

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that most of them were all at once, too, which

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was pretty crazy last year. And remember what

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I said about it is that probably six out of the

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seven should not have died. Well, my sister shouldn't

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have. No. And that was my wife. She was 70. She

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had just turned 70 and had complications of type

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2 diabetes. So that became your why for wanting

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to take care of your health. It was my why because

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everyone in my family had type 2 diabetes. And

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has died of complications of it too young. Right.

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And I feel like, you know, and I'm not saying

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that you have to be 100 % carnivore, but if we

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could get rid of the processed foods, get rid

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of the carbs, because carbs are not essential.

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Protein's essential, but carbs are not essential.

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And I'm not saying you can't ever, but if you

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can modify your diet, I mean, how are we going

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to go the long haul if we keep eating the American

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diet? It's called the sad. It's sad because it's

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the standard American diet. Because it is pretty

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sad, actually. It is. And I was just looking

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up the meetup. Why don't you explain to everybody

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what a meetup is? What is a meetup? Well, you're

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meeting up with people. like -minded people that

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have have embraced carnivore or who have just

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started the carnivore journey and you're obviously

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we were up there speaking about our journey our

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why um what prompted us to do this and um what

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our results are from that and for you and me

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it was a little bit different than others for

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others it was you know a lot of weight loss right

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And a lot of diseases that were cured, cured,

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I say cured because they were cured. Not just

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improved. Not just improved, but so many people

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had diseases that were cured that doctors will

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tell you are incurable. Like type 2 diabetes.

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Yes. Hypertension. IBS. IBS. All those things

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totally cleared up just like with us. Yes. It

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was interesting. I loved hearing the stories.

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What it did is it gave us. the impetus to start

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back like really strong and really remind ourself.

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And I think that's, it's really no different

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than when you're a Christian and you start to

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allow the things of the world. to overtake the

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things that God wants to do in and through you.

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And you've got to kind of get back on the horse

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again, you know, and start going the right direction.

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It's the same way with our health. Anybody who

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decides to get on this, if they have, you know,

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a blimp or something where they can't continue,

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you can get back on it. start the journey again.

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So it's the same thing with our walk. And I think

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because we're human, we're used to kind of having

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things pull us back. And I think for us, just

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going to this meetup and hearing all the stories

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just infused an energy again in us to have mind,

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body, spirit, have it all. Like you said, the

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three -legged stool where we're not cutting one

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leg off, we're actually sitting on a three -legged

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stool that's stable. And that's what, you know,

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we talked about this before, stable makes you

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able. And that's in every area of your life.

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And we see too many people that are godly. I

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mean, they're going full force with God. They're

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hungry, but then they've let themselves go physically.

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And, you know, the Bible talks about our... bodies

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being the temple of the holy spirit and so i

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think not enough preachers preach about the whole

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body the whole person the whole person and i

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think that's i think this infused that energy

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in us to we need to get back to that and not

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i'm not talking about meddling or pushing people

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but saying you know look at the new cabinet look

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at rfk jr and the difference in him And the person

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he took the place. That is like light years.

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It's light years. And so if our government is

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seeing that we need to make a change there, why

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wouldn't we as Christians want to even be better?

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Why wouldn't we want to be better stewards of

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our body? And a lot of it I don't think is ignorance.

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Honestly, I think it's willpower. I think that's

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the problem, which is really the same with our

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walk with the Lord. It's the same. You have to

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have discipline. You have to have a hunger to

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get into the word, to hear his voice, the right

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things inside of you. We become what we behold

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and we leak out what we're full of. And so whether

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you're talking about your spirit, your mind,

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or your body, all of those, if you think about

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it, all of those are diet -oriented. Not like

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food, but the fuel, the inputs. So you've got

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inputs because you want a certain output. You

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want a certain outcome. And I so agree with you.

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One of the things you really hit on, I just want

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to explore it for a minute, because this speaks

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to all three of these. these areas mind body

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and spirit and it's the power of community yeah

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it's the power of connection we the way i said

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it at the at the conference uh on last saturday

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in austin at the meetup i said connection is

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protection which you say that in the pulpit i

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do everything you said the same At our event,

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you say in church. Absolutely. Because it's in

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Texas. Because they're universal principles,

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but they're based out of Scripture. It's in every

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area of our life. They're based out of the Word

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of God. Every area of our life. So I turn them

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into little cliches because I'm a simple man

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and it's easier for me to remember. Which is

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funny because Dr. Kiltz said, I can't wait to

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read your book that you write on all your Jimmy

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-isms because they're phenomenal. They're really

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good. So tell, explain to people what a meetup

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is. Well, I mean, again, it's, it's, you're,

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you're coming together with like -minded people

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and you're hearing stories and it, it hopefully

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will help you, will guide you into this life

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and help you be able to overcome. bad eating

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habits. And so on this meetup, you're meeting

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with a lot of different people. They were from

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everywhere. They weren't just from Austin. So

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let's talk about how much money we all made doing

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this meetup. Zero. You know what it felt like

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to me? Actually, you and I used to be in Avacare

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and we'd go to some Avacare meetings, which is

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an MLM. And it felt like that, but there was

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zero dollars attached. There is no, this is what

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I love about being a part of the carnivore community

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is that It's not about monetizing anything. It's

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literally about how can we help as many people

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as possible really get on the track and the journey

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of health so they can experience. For me, it

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has a spiritual component. So they can experience

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the abundant life that Jesus talks about, the

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full life. And they can actually run through

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the tape, finish their life strong, stave off

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dementia, Alzheimer's, all these different things.

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That's the big one for me. That's a big one for

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me at our age because we've watched. Which is

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why they utilized us in this documentary. Because

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we're old. Because we're old. But not because

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we had a lot of weight to lose, but because we're...

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doing it for a whole different reason exactly

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which is we're yeah longevity yeah the thing

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about life what i love too is we everybody that

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was there or most people that we met had a youtube

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channel so they're constantly barraging people

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with medical information that they're receiving

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from the carnivore doctors because there's many

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doctors involved in this they're they're um They're

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interviewing other people that have these stories,

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but they're not trying to make money off of it.

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It's information, which is what I love because

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literally I felt like we were at an MLM, but

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I kept waiting to see if someone was going to

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say, now send this. There's nothing. It's not.

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This is not about money. We were on a panel as

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well. So we got up and gave a speech, our talk

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on the stage, as did many. Let me just read some

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of the names of the people who gave their speeches.

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I pulled this up just to let people know who

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we were with. We were with Dr. Robert Kiltz,

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who's a rock star in the carnivore space. He's

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a doctor. And then we were with Lauren Knight

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Hughes. She has a great transformation story

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of herself, of healing her body. Nia Nova, another

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one. had major healing turnarounds uh oh pastor

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jimmy and annette they even called us pastor

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jimmy which was funny in that a non -christian

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environment again it's so good for us getting

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outside of the church box and being out in the

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culture salt and light but they but every one

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of them talked to us honored us as pastor jimmy

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and annette and then uh the texas boys that's

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a cool homesteaded couple out of uh not a couple

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well they're they're brothers it's a whole family

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No, the Texas boys are the family. Well, I thought

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they're, okay. It's the family. It's the kids

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that are the boys. Think about it. And so they

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were there as well. And then Carrie Mann of Homestead

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Howe, that's his YouTube channel. He's really,

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really one of the non -doctor drivers in the

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carnivore space. Because it healed him of depression.

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So much. He had major depression, anxiety. Sleep

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apnea. He had a lot. You name it. He had so many

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pills that he used to be on. He had clinical

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depression to the point of suicide. He was there.

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But they told him it was clinical. Well, no,

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chemical. They said you have a chemical imbalance.

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Chemical imbalance, which is what they tell everybody.

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And here's some pills. And he just began to say,

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I don't. I don't think that, because they were

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basically dooming him into a life. What I love

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about this, too, is several of us, including

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ourselves, when I told our story, heard Dr. Jordan

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Peterson on Joe Rogan. And that's what prompted

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a lot of us, Carrie Mann, myself, and others

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mentioned it, to try the carnivore way of eating.

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It's not a diet. It's a way of eating. And I

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was really impressed with that. I mean, Dr. Jordan

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Peterson made a huge impact just by going on

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Joe Rogan. And then now his wife is in this movie.

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She's part of the documentary. It started, though,

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with his daughter, Michaela. He was telling her

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story to Joe Rogan about carnivore because Rogan's

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been in and out of carnivore. He's a health nut.

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he has done intermittent seasons of being strict

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carnivore and then he'll come out of it and go

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back into it, which again, you can, if you get

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off the bandwagon, there's no judgment. You just

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get back on. You don't beat yourself up. You

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just pick up where you left off. Exactly. Because

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sometimes we think he moves away, but we move

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away because of the distractions. Yeah. So Jordan

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Peterson was on the show. He talks about Michaela

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having just a litany. She had a laundry list

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of physical ailments that she had struggled with

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for her whole life as a young person. And she

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somehow, I don't remember how she did it, she

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stumbled on a carnivore. Well, it's because someone

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told her to do some elimination. Oh, that's how

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it was. And so she kind of went keto -ish. But

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then once she was still having issues. So in

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an elimination diet, you sort of strip down to

00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.059
just the bare bones. And it's good to start with

00:22:45.059 --> 00:22:47.460
carnivore simply because you're just back to

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meat and water, you know, electrolytes to help

00:22:50.900 --> 00:22:54.000
you stay balanced. But she did that, and she

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felt great. All of a sudden, things started clearing

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up. Then as she did that, so an elimination diet,

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you eliminate those things, but then you can

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start adding back things, and then your body

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will tell you whether you can do it or not. Turns

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out for her, she's got to stay pretty strict

00:23:09.299 --> 00:23:13.519
carnivore. But her father, Jordan Peterson, and

00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:17.460
his wife both watched her heal herself. And then

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they realized, you know what, we have some issues

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too. I wonder if it will clear our issues up.

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And it did. And they stuck with it. If you see

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older pictures of Jordan Peterson, he was huge.

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He was way overweight. And now look how thin

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he is. Oh, he's trim and thin. And gosh, I don't

00:23:32.180 --> 00:23:35.579
know how old Jordan is. Late 60s? Probably. Yeah,

00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:39.299
close to 70. And he looks phenomenal. But it's

00:23:39.299 --> 00:23:41.240
not just about the losing weight, though. It

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really is about quality of life. And that's why

00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.480
we're not. We don't have a full -on carnivore

00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:49.960
channel. We just don't do that. But it's a part

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of who we are. We were going to, but we realized

00:23:51.819 --> 00:23:54.380
we have so many things to do. We have a lot of

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irons in the fire. Integrated into our podcast

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here. So for you listening, we want to encourage

00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:05.460
you. Think in terms about mind, body, and spirit

00:24:05.460 --> 00:24:08.980
being like a three -legged stool. And ask yourself,

00:24:09.299 --> 00:24:12.059
are all three of my legs on my stool the same

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length? And if they're not, why not? What is

00:24:15.339 --> 00:24:17.660
it in one area that's shorter than the other?

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Because if you cut two to three inches off of

00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:23.180
a stool and try to sit on it, it's dysfunctional.

00:24:23.180 --> 00:24:25.759
It's ruined. Well, I think about our son -in

00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:30.039
-law who has been a lifelong smoker. He's 37

00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.759
years old. So I think he started smoking when

00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:37.299
he was very young. And he and my daughter decided

00:24:37.299 --> 00:24:41.640
that they wanted to have a baby. And she begged

00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.180
him to stop smoking. And he tried, he tried everything.

00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.960
Struggled. Nothing worked. And then she said,

00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:53.420
okay, they were able to conceive a child. And

00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:56.880
she said, can you do it by the time Colin is

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born? So that I don't want you to have health

00:25:00.500 --> 00:25:03.980
problems. And for Colin to have to breathe. Breathe,

00:25:03.980 --> 00:25:08.559
yes. And so he said, okay, that's my goal. So

00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:12.660
he had a why. And so he did the patches. He did

00:25:12.660 --> 00:25:15.200
everything. But he still was struggling. And

00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.359
the moment that baby was born, and he caught

00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:20.519
the baby just like you did when we had Faith,

00:25:20.740 --> 00:25:23.359
which I thought was really wonderful. Once he

00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:26.880
did, he's never smoked again. And that was December

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.700
20th. So coming up on three months, we got to

00:25:30.700 --> 00:25:33.019
see them last week. And he said, I don't even

00:25:33.019 --> 00:25:36.200
miss it. He said, I tried everything. And he

00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:39.940
said, but when I saw that baby. It changed everything.

00:25:40.140 --> 00:25:45.440
That was his why. Now, the great thing about

00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.940
this is he got a community around him of believers

00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:53.319
that prayed and prayed that God would give him,

00:25:53.339 --> 00:25:57.220
yes, the willpower, the determination to look

00:25:57.220 --> 00:26:00.680
at that child and go, no, that's what we have

00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.190
to do with food. That's what we have to do. when

00:26:04.190 --> 00:26:07.910
the enemy comes at us to take us off our path

00:26:07.910 --> 00:26:10.269
with our, with the word of God, with our walk

00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:12.289
with Jesus, we've got to have a community. It's

00:26:12.289 --> 00:26:14.109
like you said, we have to have a community of

00:26:14.109 --> 00:26:18.410
people that are around us holding our arms up

00:26:18.410 --> 00:26:23.829
like Aaron and her, you know, Moses holding our

00:26:23.829 --> 00:26:26.750
arms up saying we can do this, whether it's carnivore,

00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:29.609
whether it's our walk with the Lord, staying

00:26:29.609 --> 00:26:32.710
steadfast, even when the enemy's coming at us

00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:36.700
at every, direction. It's the same thing. You

00:26:36.700 --> 00:26:39.400
need a community around you. This is why I don't

00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.339
understand why people can just go to not go to

00:26:42.339 --> 00:26:46.680
church, but just watch it online and not be in

00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.819
a community of believers where you're growing

00:26:49.819 --> 00:26:54.740
with other people. How in the world can you be

00:26:54.740 --> 00:26:58.079
a Christian and not have people around you? And

00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.900
so it's the same thing. That's why this is, you

00:27:00.900 --> 00:27:06.509
know, Every area of our life, we've got to have

00:27:06.509 --> 00:27:10.509
community. You know, you're so right. So on point,

00:27:10.650 --> 00:27:14.690
Damonette. Now that, you know, I've reserved

00:27:14.690 --> 00:27:19.009
that only for Adam Curry. He's the only one that

00:27:19.009 --> 00:27:23.269
can call me that. Honey, how's that? That's reserved

00:27:23.269 --> 00:27:29.829
for me. I love what you said because you've got

00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:33.670
to have that clarified why. And for Mark, good

00:27:33.670 --> 00:27:37.049
example, as soon as he saw that baby, he realized,

00:27:37.289 --> 00:27:39.369
it pushed him over the top where he goes, my

00:27:39.369 --> 00:27:41.730
why is tangible. And that's really interesting.

00:27:42.130 --> 00:27:44.710
That was one of the points I used. I've preached

00:27:44.710 --> 00:27:48.450
this in the church, but also at the conference,

00:27:48.589 --> 00:27:51.349
the meetup, is you have to clarify your why.

00:27:51.509 --> 00:27:53.450
You've got to clarify. It's got to be clear.

00:27:53.569 --> 00:27:56.269
In other words, if it's not clear, if it's ambiguous

00:27:56.269 --> 00:27:59.059
and vague, oh, I want to lose some weight. That

00:27:59.059 --> 00:28:01.779
won't work. Then that's just a diet. Or as a

00:28:01.779 --> 00:28:03.359
Christian, I just want to be a better person.

00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:05.059
I got to get our kids in church because it's

00:28:05.059 --> 00:28:08.880
good for them. That's not a clarified why. So

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.400
you've got to clarify your why in all three of

00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.279
your areas, in your health, in your physical

00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:17.380
body, in your mindset, your mentality. Clarify

00:28:17.380 --> 00:28:20.079
your why. Why do I want to be a clear thinker

00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.500
instead of live with brain fog all the time and

00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:26.279
the fog of war on my mind and always forgetful

00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.019
and not being on point and tired all the time,

00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.819
mental fatigue. Which is interesting because

00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:35.279
when we went on keto several years ago, many

00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.970
people in the church went on it and said, I didn't

00:28:38.970 --> 00:28:41.809
even know I had mental fog until I got on keto

00:28:41.809 --> 00:28:45.950
and things began to clear. I had clarity for

00:28:45.950 --> 00:28:49.089
the first time. But what happens is we allow

00:28:49.089 --> 00:28:54.130
the things of life to creep in and take us away

00:28:54.130 --> 00:28:56.589
from that. And we're constantly going back and

00:28:56.589 --> 00:28:59.250
forth. So we move from simplicity to complexity.

00:28:59.490 --> 00:29:02.329
And when things get complicated, we're like a

00:29:02.329 --> 00:29:04.329
deer in the headlights. You know, a deer, and

00:29:04.329 --> 00:29:06.089
we know this because we live in deer country

00:29:06.089 --> 00:29:08.609
here in the Texas Hill country. When a deer's

00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:10.329
in the road, they don't know which way to go

00:29:10.329 --> 00:29:12.130
because all they see are these lights coming

00:29:12.130 --> 00:29:14.650
at them. Their life gets suddenly very complicated

00:29:14.650 --> 00:29:17.759
and they just stop. And they stand in the road

00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.740
and they get hit. And it happens all the time

00:29:20.740 --> 00:29:23.799
on our road. But it's because they move from

00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.079
simplicity to complexity. When we do the same,

00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.079
which means we have to have that clear, simplified

00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.039
why in every area of our lives. Because if we

00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.660
don't, we won't be able to stick to. Mark has

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:40.440
been able to overcome a lifelong addiction and

00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:44.660
habit. because his why was clarified. His why

00:29:44.660 --> 00:29:47.700
was right in front of him screaming and getting

00:29:47.700 --> 00:29:50.200
a high rating on the Epgar, you know, when they

00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:51.599
were doing all that initial thing. And it was

00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.140
like, it clicked for him. So thank God, but that

00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:56.359
needs to happen in every arena of our life, mind,

00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.059
body, spirit. You also mentioned community and

00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:01.160
the power of that. That goes for your spiritual

00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.920
life. It goes for your health life, but it also

00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.440
goes for your mentality. What kind of people

00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.599
do you have in your sphere of influence? If you've

00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.240
got a bunch of negative names, I mean, who just

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.759
constantly are negative all the way down. My

00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.859
goodness. It will take you down. Your community

00:30:18.859 --> 00:30:21.799
will either lift you up or it will take you down.

00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.559
And you've got to make sure you circle the wagon,

00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.619
so to speak. You put the right people around

00:30:27.619 --> 00:30:31.220
you. And are those people actually adding any

00:30:31.220 --> 00:30:34.980
value to you? We call it as iron sharpens iron,

00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.220
so a friend sharpens another. That's a biblical.

00:30:40.010 --> 00:30:44.109
biblical maxim or biblical truth. And are the

00:30:44.109 --> 00:30:46.910
people that you have around you, are they sharpening

00:30:46.910 --> 00:30:48.230
you? Are they lifting you up? I love how you're

00:30:48.230 --> 00:30:51.029
using your hands. I have to. I'm a preacher.

00:30:51.029 --> 00:30:52.769
And no one can see you. I talk with my whole

00:30:52.769 --> 00:30:55.130
body. That's why we need to do video. But I know

00:30:55.130 --> 00:30:58.049
you don't like that idea. I'm still pushing for

00:30:58.049 --> 00:31:01.500
it. Well, we might have to do that. But all that

00:31:01.500 --> 00:31:04.859
to say is really got to clarify your why. Connections,

00:31:04.859 --> 00:31:07.059
protection. Get your community around you. Find

00:31:07.059 --> 00:31:09.880
people who will support you. Not just say yes.

00:31:09.980 --> 00:31:12.059
You need people who will push back too. Who will

00:31:12.059 --> 00:31:14.000
say, ooh, I don't think that's a good idea. Have

00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.059
you really studied that? Have you checked into

00:31:16.059 --> 00:31:18.380
that? I've got people like that in my life. Adam

00:31:18.380 --> 00:31:21.309
and I are that way. We have no problem pushing

00:31:21.309 --> 00:31:23.490
back on each other, but we do it with kindness

00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:27.009
because we're constructively trying to, if we

00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:28.990
criticize one another, it's constructive because

00:31:28.990 --> 00:31:31.150
I want to see him prosper. I want to see him

00:31:31.150 --> 00:31:33.609
continue to grow. And he does the same for me.

00:31:33.809 --> 00:31:37.089
That's iron sharpens iron. And so that's another

00:31:37.089 --> 00:31:40.329
piece. Here's another thing that's really important.

00:31:40.789 --> 00:31:43.069
And what do you think of this principle? I shared

00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:45.950
this as well. You have to give grace to yourself.

00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:50.809
Why wouldn't we give the same grace to ourselves

00:31:50.809 --> 00:31:54.349
that we do to everybody else? Yes. You know,

00:31:54.410 --> 00:31:57.630
we tend to be merciful to others. We tend, people

00:31:57.630 --> 00:31:59.869
were trying to help. We give a lot of grace for,

00:31:59.990 --> 00:32:03.329
and yet we hold ourselves to these sometimes

00:32:03.329 --> 00:32:06.589
ridiculous standards that we don't hold others

00:32:06.589 --> 00:32:09.170
to. I'm not saying you got to lower your standards.

00:32:09.230 --> 00:32:11.670
I'm saying, but you got to have grace for when

00:32:11.670 --> 00:32:13.990
you, when you make a mistake, whether it's spiritually,

00:32:14.170 --> 00:32:18.220
physically, or emotionally. Right. Because if

00:32:18.220 --> 00:32:21.000
you don't learn to do that, things will take

00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.759
you out on the journey. Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:32:24.259 --> 00:32:26.900
Who are you texting? I'm not. I'm just kidding.

00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.339
No, I was kidding because we had a lot of givers

00:32:29.339 --> 00:32:33.220
in the last few weeks and I wanted to write to

00:32:33.220 --> 00:32:37.000
be able to. Oh, nice. For our podcast. Yeah,

00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.019
and some letters. I want to be able to do some

00:32:38.019 --> 00:32:39.980
shout outs. That's what I wanted to talk about.

00:32:39.980 --> 00:32:43.500
Oh, thank you. I'm sorry. But you're absolutely

00:32:43.500 --> 00:32:46.410
right. We have to have grace, which we did. During

00:32:46.410 --> 00:32:49.410
the holidays, this is one of the things that

00:32:49.410 --> 00:32:52.009
came up. How hard is carnivore? And we're like,

00:32:52.029 --> 00:32:55.289
well, during the holidays, it's really hard because

00:32:55.289 --> 00:32:59.369
we're invited to a lot of social. Pastors are

00:32:59.369 --> 00:33:02.910
very social. Yes. And so you have to kind of

00:33:02.910 --> 00:33:04.430
pick and choose what you're going to eat. But

00:33:04.430 --> 00:33:06.470
you also don't want to offend people. And so

00:33:06.470 --> 00:33:10.210
that that was we gave ourselves some grace during

00:33:10.210 --> 00:33:13.750
that time. And but you're right. We also. But

00:33:13.750 --> 00:33:16.150
the thing is, too, one of the things I've learned

00:33:16.150 --> 00:33:19.990
in my Christian walk is giving new Christians

00:33:19.990 --> 00:33:24.890
more grace. Because we, for example, Donald Trump,

00:33:24.970 --> 00:33:27.509
let's talk about Donald Trump being a new Christian.

00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:30.829
You found out recently from someone that's on

00:33:30.829 --> 00:33:35.869
his team, that office of faith, the White House

00:33:35.869 --> 00:33:38.329
office of faith. And you asked someone that you

00:33:38.329 --> 00:33:41.390
met who's... Praise with them weekly. Is Donald

00:33:41.390 --> 00:33:44.690
Trump born again? Is he a believer? Absolutely.

00:33:45.029 --> 00:33:47.730
Which I believe he's a new Christian. I do too.

00:33:47.849 --> 00:33:50.829
I think that probably the shooting had more to

00:33:50.829 --> 00:33:52.670
do with it than anything. Absolutely. It would

00:33:52.670 --> 00:33:56.190
for me. But we can't expect him to act like a

00:33:56.190 --> 00:33:59.569
mature Christian. Yeah. And likewise, we can't

00:33:59.569 --> 00:34:02.309
do that with new believers that come into our

00:34:02.309 --> 00:34:05.549
sphere of influence. And a lot of times we as

00:34:05.549 --> 00:34:08.550
Christians judge people. That's why we say, oh.

00:34:09.019 --> 00:34:10.980
There's just a bunch of hypocrites in church.

00:34:11.139 --> 00:34:13.139
Well, there's a lot of babies in church that

00:34:13.139 --> 00:34:14.860
are growing. Hey, I'm a hypocrite. Hopefully

00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:17.000
they're progressing. Are you a hypocrite? Absolutely.

00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:20.239
Because we're human. The church is full of hypocrites.

00:34:20.260 --> 00:34:22.139
Of course, that's why we're all coming together

00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:24.000
to get healed. We're trying to help each other.

00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:27.000
And I think if there's anything I've learned

00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.699
in the last couple of years is to have grace

00:34:30.699 --> 00:34:34.219
for those new Christians. And we cannot expect,

00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:36.300
and that's what I love about Adam Curry going

00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:39.780
on Joe Rogan the first time. He said, I'm new

00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:42.980
at this. You know, I just became a Jesus freak

00:34:42.980 --> 00:34:46.619
basically. And so I don't have all the answers.

00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:50.179
And that's true. And we as more mature believers

00:34:50.179 --> 00:34:53.159
who've walked with Jesus for a very long time

00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.719
have to give grace to those that are new. But

00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.920
also to ourselves. Yes. We tend to give grace

00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:02.619
more to others than we do ourselves. And that

00:35:02.619 --> 00:35:05.719
is the thing, you know. The Bible says that,

00:35:05.739 --> 00:35:07.300
you know, it talks about, you know, love the

00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:08.860
Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul,

00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.380
and strength. The second commandment is like

00:35:10.380 --> 00:35:13.760
the first. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love

00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.280
your neighbor as yourself. So it's God, others,

00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.159
and yourself in that order. But here's the thing.

00:35:20.260 --> 00:35:22.599
Most people do not love themselves. And when

00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.880
you start talking about self -love, it can eke

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.860
over into some other arenas that are unhealthy.

00:35:27.219 --> 00:35:29.900
But I'm talking about a very healthy, proper

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:33.719
estimation that... I can love myself because

00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.179
I know this. I'm a son of God. I'm a child of

00:35:37.179 --> 00:35:39.400
God. I'm created in His image. In His image,

00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.199
the Imago Dei. So I can love myself, but it's

00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.599
not that weird self -love that turns into narcissism

00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:50.579
or vanity. It's truly just being thankful. That

00:35:50.579 --> 00:35:53.860
God created me. So that means I need to give

00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:56.920
myself some grace when I make mistakes in all

00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.699
three of those arenas. You know, when I have

00:35:59.699 --> 00:36:02.260
the extra piece of Lily's chocolate instead of

00:36:02.260 --> 00:36:05.639
having one, I know I love Lily's chocolate. That's

00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.219
the one thing. It's hard to give up. It's my,

00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:11.460
uh, what's the word? Moderation. Not kryptonite,

00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:13.900
but moderation. Moderation is the key. But, but

00:36:13.900 --> 00:36:16.500
it's easy to have two blocks of it instead of

00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:18.849
just one. Now some carnivores. That hear this

00:36:18.849 --> 00:36:21.010
will say, no, you can't. Yeah, you can't do that.

00:36:21.050 --> 00:36:22.670
Or you can't have coffee with creamer in it.

00:36:22.690 --> 00:36:24.230
But you know what, then it makes it more of a

00:36:24.230 --> 00:36:27.230
diet. I don't live in that world of expectation.

00:36:27.750 --> 00:36:31.170
I know what works for me. And today I hit my

00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:35.320
goal weight, 195. I feel. freaking amazing and

00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.860
i did have an extra piece of chocolate yesterday

00:36:37.860 --> 00:36:41.000
of the lily's no no it was the new chocolate

00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.599
thing whatever you got that whatever that is

00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.659
organic that i got thank you and no thank you

00:36:46.659 --> 00:36:49.760
but i didn't i didn't partake because i didn't

00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.059
i don't feel like right now i need to be partaking

00:36:52.059 --> 00:36:54.340
so let's get back to our meetup so we did the

00:36:54.340 --> 00:36:56.400
meetup that was fantastic and we got to meet

00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.699
the one person i didn't mention is adam lacy

00:36:58.699 --> 00:37:01.920
who's become a dear friend uh just a great brother

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.820
in the lord but also he's doing a lot of the

00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:07.199
cinematography and photography for the movie,

00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.159
doing a lot of the filming. He has really jumped

00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:11.480
in on this. When he showed his before and after

00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:15.039
picture, it was shocking. He's a rock star in

00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.880
the carnivore arena. And he's pretty much given

00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:22.360
up his whole life for this project. He has. Because

00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.460
he believes in it. Because it saved his life.

00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.960
It also healed a traumatic brain injury from

00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.360
an accident. But we also met a new doctor, Dr.

00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.769
Nelson. who's coming on board with Dr. Kills.

00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:37.070
And he had his own story. And I love that. I

00:37:37.070 --> 00:37:42.230
love it when doctors are seeing the light and

00:37:42.230 --> 00:37:44.110
they're seeing how they were taught. They were

00:37:44.110 --> 00:37:47.469
not taught the proper way of eating. And so a

00:37:47.469 --> 00:37:50.829
lot of them are leaving their practices. And

00:37:50.829 --> 00:37:52.590
going down a whole different road. Because they

00:37:52.590 --> 00:37:55.349
weren't taught to heal and or cure diseases.

00:37:55.610 --> 00:37:58.409
They were taught how to treat symptoms and dispense

00:37:58.409 --> 00:38:01.530
pills. And every doctor I know will say that,

00:38:01.570 --> 00:38:03.329
honestly. Yes, absolutely. Well, because they're

00:38:03.329 --> 00:38:06.110
not really taught nutrition. Yeah. So, yeah.

00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.039
At the cellular level, the molecular level. And

00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.719
so to see these doctors coming on board, and

00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:14.239
there's a bunch of them coming over and seeing

00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.320
the value of this. Even your own doctor said,

00:38:16.460 --> 00:38:18.320
whatever you're doing, keep doing it. Keep doing

00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.159
it, and I think I want to check into this. I

00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.380
want to check into it myself. And again, we have

00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:25.219
nothing to gain from this in terms of monetary.

00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.900
We don't get paid for any of this. We just want

00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:31.000
to help people get better in mind, body, and

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:37.159
spirit. All three arenas. going to another meetup.

00:38:37.179 --> 00:38:39.340
We found out there was another meetup in Nashville,

00:38:39.340 --> 00:38:42.800
in the Nashville area next month. And we were

00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.219
like, well, Hey, another opportunity to go see

00:38:45.219 --> 00:38:48.519
our grandson. I called my daughter. She was so

00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:50.679
excited that we're coming and we're going back

00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.599
in May for another event. Um, but, uh, Caleb,

00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:57.840
Caleb fan award. And so we get to see him again.

00:38:58.139 --> 00:39:02.019
But what I love about this, um, meetup in Nashville

00:39:02.019 --> 00:39:03.980
is we're going to get to meet Dr. Ken Berry.

00:39:04.380 --> 00:39:08.179
He, was instrumental in giving us some great

00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:11.119
medical information. So let me just say, can

00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.940
I pause right here and just caveat that? So for

00:39:13.940 --> 00:39:15.619
those of you that are listening to us and going,

00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.300
well, okay, I want to check this carnivore thing

00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:19.960
out. Sounds weird just eating meat, but I want

00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.179
to check it out. Well, meat, eggs, bacon, better.

00:39:22.539 --> 00:39:24.519
But you want to get the science behind this,

00:39:24.539 --> 00:39:27.980
then go on YouTube and just put in the search

00:39:27.980 --> 00:39:31.800
feature Dr. Kenberry, and you'll have every kind

00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:33.219
of video you want to know. You want to learn

00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:35.179
about cholesterol. You want to learn about PCOS.

00:39:35.219 --> 00:39:36.639
You want to learn about all the different issues.

00:39:36.659 --> 00:39:39.039
Any disease you have, you can put Dr. Kenberry

00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:43.500
and that disease, and you'll see a clip come

00:39:43.500 --> 00:39:47.039
through that'll address. 20 -year family practice

00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.739
doctor, and he is full -on keto and carnivore.

00:39:50.739 --> 00:39:52.539
It's just called Ketovore, which is kind of a

00:39:52.539 --> 00:39:57.659
combination. And he got out of the medical industry,

00:39:57.940 --> 00:40:01.099
the standard American medical industry, because

00:40:01.099 --> 00:40:04.579
he wants to help and heal people, not just treat

00:40:04.579 --> 00:40:07.429
symptoms and be a... a pill pusher. Exactly.

00:40:07.449 --> 00:40:10.650
And so he, he is amazing. Check him out. And,

00:40:10.710 --> 00:40:14.309
uh, also Dr. Robert kilts. I call him my favorite

00:40:14.309 --> 00:40:17.369
12 year old. He's high on life. This guy is about

00:40:17.369 --> 00:40:22.449
to be 69 this week. And that was a fun podcast

00:40:22.449 --> 00:40:26.590
when we got to go on his, it's his YouTube channel.

00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:30.530
And, um, it's not out yet. I think it's going

00:40:30.530 --> 00:40:33.030
to be out. We'll put the link on our newsletter

00:40:33.030 --> 00:40:35.949
when it releases. What was, Cool about it is

00:40:35.949 --> 00:40:38.949
we went into a studio. He rented a studio in

00:40:38.949 --> 00:40:41.550
Austin for us to meet with him. We went into

00:40:41.550 --> 00:40:44.929
that studio, hit record, and it was supposed

00:40:44.929 --> 00:40:47.230
to be an hour long and it ended up being almost

00:40:47.230 --> 00:40:49.989
an hour and a half. And we didn't realize it

00:40:49.989 --> 00:40:53.349
because we had so much to talk about. But I love

00:40:53.349 --> 00:40:57.000
that he brought. Christ into every bit of it.

00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.420
It was all about our journey, our spiritual journey,

00:41:00.539 --> 00:41:03.559
how you became a pastor. He always says the number

00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.400
one thing is I would listen to him today just

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for a moment this morning. The number one thing

00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.440
is have faith in God. I mean, that's his whole

00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.400
thing. And so I love that he's got that heart

00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.579
and, and that he really respected and honored

00:41:15.579 --> 00:41:19.340
us as pastors and let us tell our story. Wonderful.

00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.780
He does. He's one of our favorite people because

00:41:22.780 --> 00:41:26.920
he's full of life. He's living up in a down world.

00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.579
He is. He's the epitome of the title of the show.

00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:33.280
For sure. And everybody needs to get around someone

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:34.960
like him. Oh, my gosh. I want him in my circle.

00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:36.739
We're going to get to see him again in Nashville.

00:41:37.059 --> 00:41:40.900
This will be our third time to meet with him.

00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.619
And that's what I love about this adventure.

00:41:46.010 --> 00:41:48.429
doctor, like I said, doctors coming into this

00:41:48.429 --> 00:41:52.530
and opening up their eyes and seeing, um, this

00:41:52.530 --> 00:41:55.030
is, it's not about doing all these surgeries.

00:41:55.090 --> 00:41:57.949
It's not about doing, you know, giving all these

00:41:57.949 --> 00:42:02.170
pills out. It's about fueling your body properly.

00:42:02.269 --> 00:42:05.409
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. Well, that was

00:42:05.409 --> 00:42:07.769
amazing. And then we wrapped up, we got to go

00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:10.590
sit, we went to a concert. Thank you, Matt Munt,

00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:13.469
for blessing us with tickets. We got to go see

00:42:13.469 --> 00:42:17.510
Toby Mac's new tour. They just came out on tour.

00:42:17.650 --> 00:42:20.369
So we saw Toby Mac. This is all in Austin. Toby

00:42:20.369 --> 00:42:26.510
Mac, Ryan Stevens. Stevenson. Stevenson. Kane.

00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:29.929
Terrian. Yeah. Terrian, Kane. Terrian, Kane.

00:42:30.070 --> 00:42:33.519
And Crowder. caleb and john too and caleb and

00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:36.420
john were with in a four -hour period where we

00:42:36.420 --> 00:42:39.260
stood almost it was non -stop there were no breaks

00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:41.780
they had one intermission one intermission oh

00:42:41.780 --> 00:42:43.820
my gosh we needed it i mean we were on our feet

00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:46.840
the whole time one of the best most enjoyable

00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.159
concert experiences we've had and we've been

00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:55.159
to a bunch of them honestly for me crowder crowder

00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.400
took it I mean, I, and I, for me, I love Toby

00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.460
Mac because I love the dancing. They were amazing.

00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.079
They were all amazing. All of them were fantastic.

00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:08.440
What a great experience. But we got blessed with

00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.380
great seats. We were right there by the, there's

00:43:10.380 --> 00:43:13.039
two stages and we were literally right up against

00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.539
one of the stages. Except it was a little vertical.

00:43:16.329 --> 00:43:19.110
challenge for me because there was people in

00:43:19.110 --> 00:43:21.309
front of me when they were on the first stage

00:43:21.309 --> 00:43:23.969
yeah when we're standing that puts you at a big

00:43:23.969 --> 00:43:27.789
disadvantage for sure for sure yeah but it was

00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.059
It was still an amazing experience. Can't wait

00:43:31.059 --> 00:43:33.219
to go to K -Love and see some of the same artists.

00:43:33.219 --> 00:43:34.860
But because we're healthy, we have energy, we

00:43:34.860 --> 00:43:39.260
did a full day meetup conference. From 10 .30

00:43:39.260 --> 00:43:41.699
to 5 .30. Speaking on the panel, meeting with

00:43:41.699 --> 00:43:44.079
people constantly, photo ops, all that stuff.

00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.530
And then we went straight from there. To get

00:43:47.530 --> 00:43:49.829
patties at In -N -Out Burger. Yes. To get just

00:43:49.829 --> 00:43:52.130
meat patties. We woofed them down and went straight

00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:52.869
to the concert. Woofed them and went straight

00:43:52.869 --> 00:43:54.630
to the concert. Oh, my gosh. Didn't even change

00:43:54.630 --> 00:43:57.769
clothes. I know. I was in sweats. Yeah. And you

00:43:57.769 --> 00:44:00.769
know what? I was sitting there thinking while

00:44:00.769 --> 00:44:03.409
the concert was going on, man, mega loud, mega

00:44:03.409 --> 00:44:07.820
everything. And I'm going. We feel good. We should

00:44:07.820 --> 00:44:10.659
be in a coma by now. We should be home in bed.

00:44:11.059 --> 00:44:14.039
And yet we feel so good because of our health

00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.059
that we're just enjoying, I won't say dancing,

00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.699
you were probably moving more than me. I was

00:44:18.699 --> 00:44:21.360
dancing a lot. And I thought, oh, I hope this

00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.369
doesn't hurt my knee. Nothing. So much fun. But

00:44:25.369 --> 00:44:27.590
anyway, that was a huge blessing. Big shout out

00:44:27.590 --> 00:44:29.809
to Matt Munt for blessing us with those tickets.

00:44:30.090 --> 00:44:32.750
Adam and Tina were supposed to go with us. They

00:44:32.750 --> 00:44:35.050
had another commitment. So we just took the tickets.

00:44:35.090 --> 00:44:37.630
And then we blessed a couple with the extra tickets.

00:44:37.710 --> 00:44:40.010
They were in front of us in line. And we were

00:44:40.010 --> 00:44:41.829
like, where are y 'all seats? And they were trying

00:44:41.829 --> 00:44:43.449
to explain. And we said, do you want better seats?

00:44:43.949 --> 00:44:46.429
Here's two more tickets. And he was like, you

00:44:46.429 --> 00:44:48.690
could go scalp those tickets. I said, no, they

00:44:48.690 --> 00:44:51.570
were given to us. I'd rather give them. They

00:44:51.570 --> 00:44:53.590
loved it. They were so appreciative, too. They

00:44:53.590 --> 00:44:55.030
were a sweet couple. And we got to meet another

00:44:55.030 --> 00:44:58.550
couple. I know. It was cool. That are like -minded,

00:44:58.630 --> 00:45:01.340
which is... Christ is our center. That's it.

00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.679
It was amazing. What a great week and a great

00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.599
weekend. We also got to see Pastor Brian and

00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.079
Terry Bush. Yes, in Nashville. They pastor in

00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.239
Antioch. He also works with Dave Ramsey. He was

00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.079
my boss back then. Now he's a board of directors.

00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:16.900
He's one of our board of directors at our church.

00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.400
So he's not my boss. He's my partner. So we got

00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.239
to meet with them and share with them what's

00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.199
going on in our church, which is amazing. But

00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:25.659
you know who I missed the most besides Mr. Chevy?

00:45:26.190 --> 00:45:28.889
Who? I missed Adam and Tina. Oh, I know. There's

00:45:28.889 --> 00:45:31.730
something about our friendship has moved to this

00:45:31.730 --> 00:45:34.210
place that when one of us is out of town, it's

00:45:34.210 --> 00:45:36.309
weird for us. Even though we might not have gotten

00:45:36.309 --> 00:45:38.789
together in that space, it's just weird knowing

00:45:38.789 --> 00:45:41.050
there's somebody somewhere else. We laugh about

00:45:41.050 --> 00:45:42.849
it. Well, you get to have a bro date tomorrow

00:45:42.849 --> 00:45:46.269
night. I am fired up. I know. We are doing a

00:45:46.269 --> 00:45:49.750
bro date. And I'm thinking Freed Helms is on

00:45:49.750 --> 00:45:54.050
the menu. And Freed Helms is... Adam's go -to

00:45:54.050 --> 00:45:56.650
place but I love it too they actually have a

00:45:56.650 --> 00:45:58.769
great ribeye there so I'm thinking go rock a

00:45:58.769 --> 00:46:02.789
ribeye at Friedhelm's so yeah bro date yeah we're

00:46:02.789 --> 00:46:05.570
doing that tomorrow night and uh looking forward

00:46:05.570 --> 00:46:08.130
to that well you have a lunch thing well I do

00:46:08.130 --> 00:46:11.590
but Nashville when we go to Nashville in April

00:46:11.590 --> 00:46:14.710
yeah Tina's going with us yep when we're going

00:46:14.710 --> 00:46:17.400
to Nashville in May Tina and Adam. Adam and Tina

00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.760
are going with us. We would go to Florida. Florida.

00:46:21.099 --> 00:46:23.579
Tina and Adam. This summer, they'll be with us.

00:46:23.659 --> 00:46:25.940
And then the Bahamas, Tina and Adam. I know.

00:46:26.059 --> 00:46:28.059
We're going to go suffer for Jesus in the Bahamas.

00:46:28.059 --> 00:46:29.440
We have got to make sure that we keep our relationship

00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.699
intact. We were invited on a trip by Peggy Layden

00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:33.420
and her husband. I haven't met her husband yet,

00:46:33.460 --> 00:46:35.880
so I'm really excited about meeting him. So they

00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.519
invited us to a condo in the Bahamas, and so

00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.739
we just got to get there. And so that's going

00:46:40.739 --> 00:46:42.960
to be a fun trip. But that's a lot of trips with

00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.239
the Currys. I hope we can stay friends. It's

00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:48.300
like we like them or something. I love those

00:46:48.300 --> 00:46:49.639
guys. In fact, I was listening to their podcast

00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.659
on the way in this morning. Catching up. Before

00:46:52.659 --> 00:46:55.239
their next one, which is tonight. I know. We

00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:56.760
love them. Well, listen, thanks for listening

00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:58.659
to our show. Why don't you share some things?

00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.760
We've had some great donations, people being

00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.000
generous. Thank you. Trinity sent us some donations.

00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:11.619
Steve Wise. Brandy. James Berings. Beautiful.

00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:16.110
Adam Curry. Adam Curry, because you know the

00:47:16.110 --> 00:47:21.449
Bitcoin. I don't know the Bitcoin so much. We've

00:47:21.449 --> 00:47:24.570
had a lot of donations recently, and we really

00:47:24.570 --> 00:47:27.650
appreciate those donations. Huge. It's just been

00:47:27.650 --> 00:47:31.469
amazing. We've gotten a couple of beautiful letters,

00:47:31.489 --> 00:47:33.550
too. In fact, one was from Trinity. That was

00:47:33.550 --> 00:47:36.230
so encouraging. I sent that over to you. And

00:47:36.230 --> 00:47:38.409
then another one wrote in. And we just want to

00:47:38.409 --> 00:47:41.719
say thank you to all of you. You know, if we

00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:43.360
don't give you an individual shout out, I just

00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.199
want you to know it matters what you do. When

00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.320
you thank us, that's value for value. And we

00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.920
just want to say we really, really appreciate

00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.159
it. And we want you to know we're not here in

00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.760
a podcast to do anything for ourselves. We're

00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.000
truly just trying to get the good news out, a

00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.900
good message that will change your life, hopefully

00:48:02.900 --> 00:48:05.860
change the trajectory of your life for the better.

00:48:05.980 --> 00:48:08.659
We're here to live up in a down world. We mean

00:48:08.659 --> 00:48:10.800
that. In fact, Dr. Kiltz asked about that. name

00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.500
because he's an up guy. He's like down. But he

00:48:13.500 --> 00:48:15.360
didn't, he said, but this isn't a down world.

00:48:15.380 --> 00:48:17.920
He didn't really get that. But it's a biblical

00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.679
reference that we live in a fallen world after

00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.780
the, after, um, the garden incident with Adam

00:48:23.780 --> 00:48:26.579
and Eve, the world is referred to as a fallen

00:48:26.579 --> 00:48:29.300
world. It's a down world. So I think the world's

00:48:29.300 --> 00:48:31.280
beautiful. I love the mountains. I love the beach

00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.019
and everything in between. There's a lot of people

00:48:33.019 --> 00:48:35.619
that are down that don't know Christ. Right.

00:48:35.619 --> 00:48:38.460
And so you can live up when you have a relationship.

00:48:39.210 --> 00:48:42.269
with christ and that's another avenue of our

00:48:42.269 --> 00:48:46.610
name i hate to go but you've got a meeting to

00:48:46.610 --> 00:48:49.889
get to girl oh it's time i know i've got to go

00:48:49.889 --> 00:48:52.769
i know well thank you for joining us today for

00:48:52.769 --> 00:48:55.869
living up in a down world we love you even if

00:48:55.869 --> 00:48:58.469
we've never met you in person we love you we

00:48:58.469 --> 00:49:01.929
appreciate you we value you listen keep living

00:49:01.929 --> 00:49:04.070
up in a down world one last word very quickly

00:49:04.070 --> 00:49:07.159
what are you gonna say Thank you for tuning in.

00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.340
We love you. And hopefully we'll be getting a

00:49:10.340 --> 00:49:15.320
little bit more. Sorry, we'll be getting a little

00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.260
bit more weekly or every other week. We'll have

00:49:19.260 --> 00:49:21.880
some time to more consistent, more consistency.

00:49:22.139 --> 00:49:24.900
All right. You guys have an amazing week on purpose.

00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:26.539
Go to your meeting.
