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Living up in a down world.

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This is Jimmy and Annette, and we are coming to you live

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from the Bridge slash Living Up in a Down World studio

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at Bridge Church in Fredericksburg, Texas.

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How are you doing, beautiful?

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I'm great.

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You look stunning today.

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We've been working out.

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It's weird, isn't it?

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Welcome to Living Up in a Down World, everybody.

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What episode are we on now?

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I know, we're getting there.

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Church is growing.

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It had nearly 700 people there this Sunday.

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as we're doing our Walking with Jesus discipleship journey.

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You've got to start thinking about what you're thinking about.

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You said that about 10 times on Wednesday night.

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I know you.

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Hill Country Conversations, Hill Country Connections.

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and I waited till it was all over with, and it was time for the preaching, and that's when I went in.

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And I actually felt better.

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I felt like I was able to calm down.

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I couldn't figure it out.

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and tell him what happened because I'm trying to think, is this because I need more water, electrolytes?

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What is going on with me?

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And he told me, he actually wrote in his report to me the next day, some of our employees,

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all of them write reports to us about what's going on during the week, what they're working on,

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just so that we can kind of see where everybody's at.

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And he said he experienced the highest form of spiritual warfare while he was preaching,

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which nobody could tell.

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He said it was like he couldn't even get the words out of his mouth.

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He didn't know what to say.

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But you would never know listening that he was feeling that way.

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So it was almost like that was in his head, but what was coming out, the Lord was just letting it come out.

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It was so clear. I would never, ever have known.

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So I caught him between services because you were incognito, right?

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I was in here.

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So I go out and I hang out at the Connect Center.

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So what I do, we have hundreds of people in church, and I go out to the Welcome Center,

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and I just hang out in the hall, and that's where the party is.

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which I didn't even get a chance to go to the bathroom between services.

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There were so many people, it was so just wild, but it was great.

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whenever I said, man, you did a fantastic job.

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That was really good.

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And he goes, really?

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I mean, he looked ahead, this horrified look on his face.

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I said, yeah, it was fantastic.

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He goes, man, I'm under attack.

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I'm under warfare.

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He said, I felt like all my words were jumbled, and mine was foggy.

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He said, like, brain fog.

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He said he had trouble getting words out.

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Never saw that.

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Would have never known it at all.

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So isn't that an odd?

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So what was going on in his mind and what was actually happening

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were two different things.

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His mind and his spirit, what was happening, he just felt like he was being besieged,

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and it was coming off like I'm dumb, I look stupid to everybody.

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And yet, we're on the receiving end going, this is fire.

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This is amazing.

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That's pretty crazy.

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So I went back over, I said, oh, man, you got this.

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I said, hey, the reason this is happening, this is the discovery.

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This is the discovery.

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This is what is just unbelievable to me that we remembered this

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and can express exactly what this is.

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Yeah, so I was talking to him, music's going.

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I mean, we're just on the front row, and I got my arm around him and said,

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hey, you just preached on the covenant, our covenant with God.

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If the enemy knows that if the church gets this message

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and understands their covenant with God, that it's game over.

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That's what I told him.

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I walked back over to my spot, prayed for him, of course, in my spot,

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and I just was like, wow.

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Then it brought back a flood of memories of the past years.

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Memories of the same thing happening, not in the same way,

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but the spiritual warfare that we experienced when you would teach on the covenant.

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So, explain what the covenant is.

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Well, the covenant goes back to Genesis.

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In fact, I'm just going to pull it up in the Scriptures here, Genesis 12,

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having to do with Abraham, who was Abram before his name was changed to Abraham.

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And so, let me look it up real quick while I'm on here.

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Just a second, I have to find it.

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So, we're going to go to Genesis, like back close to the beginning,

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like Genesis chapter 12.

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So, in Genesis chapter 12, verse 1, the Bible tells us this,

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Now the Lord said to Abram, Go from your country and your kindred

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and your father's house to the land that I will show you.

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I will make of you.

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He starts to tell him what he's going to do.

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He gives him promises.

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I will make of you a great nation.

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I will bless you and make your name great so that you will be a blessing.

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I will bless those who bless you and him who dishonors you.

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I will curse and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

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The very next verse, which is verse 4, Genesis 12,

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So Abraham went as the Lord had told him.

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So, Abraham just obeyed.

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It doesn't look like there's any time differentiations,

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literally as though the Lord told him what to do and he did it.

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You've got to understand, these are real people.

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It would be like you, if you're a husband and you're listening to this,

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you getting a word from God and then you going to your wife and saying,

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Hey, we're leaving.

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What's the first thing she's going to ask?

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Where are we going and why?

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And who told you we're leaving?

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I'm going to be asking a lot of questions.

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It's going to be a battery of questions for sure.

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So you've got to understand, Sarah had to do the same thing.

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So I'm sure he had to say, all I know is God told me what to do

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and we're going to take the next step.

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What a powerful picture of obedience there.

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I'm going to do the next thing he tells me to do.

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And Abram was committed to that.

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I think, for me, I think that a lot of people don't know if God is talking to them.

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They don't know when God is talking to them.

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You know what I mean?

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Because it sounds like our own voice.

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And so how do you determine if it's God or if it's you?

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So we're going to go into a different topic now.

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Well, I mean, it has to do with the covenant.

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Okay, all right.

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I'm just trying to answer this for the audience.

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I know you are, but it's going to take us down another path.

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So the short version is this.

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There are three voices in your head.

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There's yours, there's the devil's, and there's God's.

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And the sad and the hard part is that they almost always sound like your voice.

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But you have thoughts that come to you and you know they're not of you.

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And sometimes they're, well, sometimes you don't, unfortunately.

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So here what I do is I ask the question, is what this voice in my head is saying, is it true?

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There's the first question.

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So you're looking in the mirror and you're looking, you're saying, and you're thinking,

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man, you're so stupid.

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Nobody cares about you.

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No one listens to you.

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They were right.

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You've never made anything of your life.

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You're not worth it.

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Nobody really cares what you think or what you have to say.

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You have nothing to contribute.

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You're worthless.

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I mean, the enemy will take you down those roads, and you'll just stand there in the mirror

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and take it because you think these are your thoughts.

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But anytime you've got words that are malevolent like that, that are dark, that are nefarious,

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that are accusatory, like telling you who you are and what you are

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and reminding you of what you did 15, 20 years ago or two hours ago,

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this voice of accusation, the Bible calls the devil the accuser of the brethren.

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And so he's an accuser, like a prosecuting attorney.

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He's like, who's that guy, Jack Smith, that just quit?

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He was going after Trump.

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He's like that.

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He's just coming after you and coming after you.

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He doesn't let up.

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He looks for anything to accuse you with so that if you make an agreement with that accusation,

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like in your mind, you go, you know what, you're right.

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I am stupid.

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You know you're right.

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I don't have anything.

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You know you're right.

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I don't matter.

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Why am I even alive?

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Why am I even here?

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I mean, it'll go dark real quick because that's how the enemy works.

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And at that point, you have to arrest it.

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And when you make an agreement with what the enemy's voice is saying,

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which again, sounds a lot like your voice,

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you'll think you're thinking that, but he actually inserts things.

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He'll insert thoughts into your psyche where you're like,

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you weren't even thinking like that, and then suddenly you're going down this dark road.

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That's how I identify the enemy, if it's not true.

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Because what is true?

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What I think?

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No.

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And to me, that's easy to identify as a Christian because we know the difference in right and wrong,

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evil and good, but it's between our voice and God's voice.

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So the way I measure up, okay, is this true?

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By the way, I do this in nanoseconds now.

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In the early days, you had to think about it.

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But I think about it and I think about what God's Word says about me.

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So if I'm looking in the mirror and I'm getting all these negative words, voices,

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you know, this berating thing, disparaging thing, I'm just like,

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no, that's not true because God's Word says I'm a saint.

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God's Word says I'm holy.

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God's Word says I'm a masterpiece.

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I'm righteous.

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God's Word says I'm the head, not the tail, that I'm above only and not beneath.

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I'm blessed.

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I mean, you can just go down the list, but when you know God's Word

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and you've hidden it in your heart, as Scripture says in Psalm 119, verse 11,

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your word, if I hid in my heart that I might not sin against you.

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But when you hide God's Word in your heart, then it becomes like a file that you can access.

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When you're in a crisis or when you're getting berated with these terrible thoughts.

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Does that make sense?

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So that's how I identify the voice of the enemy.

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First of all, is it true?

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Second of all, is it redemptive or punitive?

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Is this something that may be negative, but it's redemptive in nature,

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which means God's trying to correct me.

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God's trying to help me.

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God's telling me not to do that or not to say that, not to go down that path,

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not to drive down that road.

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So is the voice now redemptive or punitive?

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Punitive means it's punishment.

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It's just to hurt you.

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It's just to punish you, just to torment you.

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That's how I identify the voices.

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Does that make sense?

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Yes, but again, I'm asking how do you determine if it's God telling you to do something or if it's your flesh?

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A lot of times that's a tougher question because...

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I know.

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It comes up a lot.

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People ask me quite a bit.

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So what you have to do is you have to discern...

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So here's what I do.

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If there's something comes to my mind and I feel like it's a directive,

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like it's telling me to do something, then the first thing I do,

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and it's the best thing I'll ever do, is I go to God's Word and go,

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does God's Word align with what I'm being told to do?

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That may not meet down to the specifics of, you know, turn right here, turn left here,

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you know, whatever, submit that proposal, whatever.

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But is the nature of that directive biblical in nature?

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Again, is it true?

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Does it have the sound?

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Does it resonate in my heart as true?

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Does it sound like something God would ask me to do?

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Is it something I can easily do or is it something I have to stretch to do?

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Well, if I can easily do it, and He'll tell you those things too,

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or is He asking me to do something that's uncomfortable like He asked Abraham,

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leave your family, your father, and go?

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That was God's voice.

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I bet Sarah's like, who told you that?

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I can imagine that conversation.

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I would be asking all sorts of questions.

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That could have been a rough conversation.

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So anyway, that is a little bit of a side issue,

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and it takes some time to talk about.

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So back to where we were going because we're chased a rabbit.

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Well, I felt like that was important.

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It is important.

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So back to what we were talking about, weird stuff.

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So things were happening.

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I have not experienced that that I can remember.

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It was unbelievable.

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But what did it remind you of?

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Well, once you brought it up, I thought, oh my goodness.

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And you know what?

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If you think about it, Jimmy, you have not preached on the covenant

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since we've been here.

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And so it's been a really long time.

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Not intentionally, yeah.

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I've touched on it here in the Arabic.

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Not intentionally, that being the subject.

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So tomorrow, he's preaching on part two.

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So I've got to be worded up, spiritually armored,

502
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000
because I don't want to go through that again tomorrow.

503
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000
And I don't want him to go through it.

504
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000
And he recognizes, because you talked to him about that.

505
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,000
We talked about it at length, what happened.

506
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,000
And so I've been praying for him specifically this week for that.

507
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,000
So that he'll have the mind of Christ as he's preaching.

508
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,000
But also that people will understand what God has done for us

509
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000
and what he wants for us.

510
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,000
He wants only for good for us.

511
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000
He wants to prosper us.

512
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,000
He wants us to grow in the knowledge of him.

513
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000
And he wants us to walk victoriously.

514
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000
He wants us to have faith and walk in faith.

515
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000
That's something that a lot of Christians have never been taught, though.

516
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000
They've never been taught that you can actually live a victorious life,

517
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000
that you can overcome.

518
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000
And the reason is because a lot of churches have never,

519
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000
a lot of churches have walked in what's called pietism.

520
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,000
Pietism is the belief that we're not supposed to engage culture.

521
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,000
We're not supposed to be entangled with the world in any way.

522
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000
Forget about being salt and light.

523
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,000
Forget about actually going out into the culture and making a difference.

524
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000
No, we're just going to have our Bible studies and our church services over here.

525
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000
And then we're going to let the world go to hell in a handbasket.

526
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000
And there are churches that believe that.

527
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:24,000
So pietism really impacted the Lutheran church through John Wesley

528
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000
and some of them, and Methodism as well.

529
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000
I was going to say Methodist.

530
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
And that's still there.

531
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000
It is, it's residual.

532
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
And what it tells you is don't get involved in politics.

533
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,000
Don't think about serving on the school board or anything like that.

534
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,000
This does not compute with me because if the church is not supposed to get

535
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,000
involved with politics, how do we teach people how to live in this world?

536
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000
Because we have to live in it.

537
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000
We don't conform to it, but we still have to live here.

538
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000
So if we never get involved in anything and we just let everybody else

539
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,000
do the voting, everybody else, we're going to have evil rampant,

540
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000
which is what's happening right now.

541
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Which the word salt, you've got salt and light.

542
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Jesus said you're the salt of the world, you're the light of the earth,

543
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000
the light of the world, salt of the earth.

544
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
And He said that.

545
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000
So what those two words mean, salt is something that preserves.

546
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,000
So we're the last bastion of preservation on the planet right now.

547
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,000
The Christian faith, the Word of God, teaching people how to live this life,

548
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,000
how to not steal, how to not be corrupt, how to be honest,

549
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:37,000
how to have honor and dignity and all the justice and truth and righteousness.

550
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000
That's what we're here to do.

551
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000
And I love the way Kirk Cameron uses the word heavenize.

552
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
He said we're here to heavenize earth.

553
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000
That's what salt and light, salt preserves, what does light do?

554
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Light exposes.

555
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,000
It also drives out darkness because light and dark can't occupy the same space.

556
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,000
So if the light is in our government, guess what?

557
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000
It can't be there.

558
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Darkness has to flee.

559
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,000
So if we pull back from culture and say we're not going to engage at any level,

560
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000
then we have let go of the war.

561
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Paul said to Timothy, he said fight the good fight of the faith.

562
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
He said don't be afraid.

563
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000
He said you've not been given a spirit of fear but of power and of love

564
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000
and of a sound mind.

565
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000
He said you've been called to engage your world.

566
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000
Piatism teaches that we sit back and we let the world happen to us

567
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000
instead of us happening to the world.

568
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000
The great commission that Jesus taught, he says go there for and make disciples

569
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000
of all the nations.

570
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
And if we don't do it, they're going to get their information,

571
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000
the people are going to get their information from the news,

572
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
and that's as corrupt as anything.

573
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000
So why wouldn't a preacher want to share what's happening in the world

574
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000
and correlate it with what the Bible says

575
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000
so that we can combat that?

576
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000
We already have precedent for this.

577
00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,000
You go back to the first 150 to 170 years of the founding of our country

578
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:06,000
beginning in the 1600s with the 1606 Jamestown, the covenant they made,

579
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,000
the compact they made, the charter.

580
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000
They called it the Charter of 1606.

581
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Well, they talked about the reason they came to America was to evangelize the world.

582
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,000
And that's what the charter said, that our country was built

583
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,000
and that was the first that and the Mayflower Compact are two documents

584
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,000
that actually were pulled from and set precedent for what we now call

585
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,000
the Constitution of the United States, the Bill of Rights,

586
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000
and then even before that the Declaration of Independence.

587
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000
So all those things work together.

588
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000
Now, so here we are in this world, but here's the thing,

589
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
there will be resistance.

590
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Always.

591
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
Weird stuff. I'm just going to call it weird stuff.

592
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000
Weird things are going to happen.

593
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,000
Sometimes we'll think weird things happening because there's some scientific explanation.

594
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,000
There's some physiological thing or something in the area of physics

595
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000
that caused that to happen, but there are things that happen that are of another place.

596
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Supernatural.

597
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Supernatural, otherworldly, spiritual in nature,

598
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000
and there are dark and malevolent forces that hate us.

599
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,000
And the more you step out, and I always use the term move the needle,

600
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
you're actually moving things.

601
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000
Which is growing. You're growing in your faith.

602
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000
You're using your faith. You're acting on your faith.

603
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,000
As you do that, you act on your faith, you grow in your faith,

604
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000
and you're helping others to do the same because that's what Jesus said,

605
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000
go and make disciples.

606
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000
So when we're doing that and we're sharing the good news

607
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,000
and we're spreading it, there will be massive opposition.

608
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,000
We somehow think as Christians, hey, if we're just nice, everybody will get along with us.

609
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000
If everybody's getting along with you, you're not moving the needle.

610
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,000
You're not making disciples.

611
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000
So I guess we're doing pretty well. We're moving the needle.

612
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000
We're over the target is the way I like to say it.

613
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000
We're not just over the target, we are the target.

614
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Now the target's on our back, but that's okay.

615
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
It's the price we pay.

616
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000
I love what Dietrich Bonhoeffer said in his book, The Cost of Discipleship.

617
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
Jesus bids a man come and die.

618
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000
And he talked about the cost of discipleship.

619
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000
If your discipleship doesn't cost you anything, that's not discipleship.

620
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000
And so we've got to be that salt and light.

621
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000
But when we are, we stir things up.

622
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Let's just put it that way.

623
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000
So all that's precursor to say that what led up to Sunday morning's weirdness

624
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
and then other weird things that happened.

625
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,000
I wonder if anybody else experienced anything, but we just don't know.

626
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Yeah, we don't know.

627
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000
I mean, there'll be some people that have a lot of what I would call spiritual sensitivity.

628
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000
They kind of a barometer for spiritual activity.

629
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
And I'm sure they were like, ooh, something's up.

630
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
You can feel it in the atmosphere.

631
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,000
I usually don't have that kind of barometer, but apparently I do now.

632
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000
What's interesting is I had a great day.

633
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000
And it's not because I'm ignorant or anything.

634
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000
It's because I came in with a mindset.

635
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
I was already in a good mindset.

636
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
So I was not. I wasn't in a good mindset.

637
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
I don't know. I was in a warfare mind.

638
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000
I knew where I was going with it.

639
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000
I was excited.

640
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000
Worship was amazing.

641
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:08,000
I knew the message he was going to teach on because I'd heard it on our Wednesday night study.

642
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
So it was just out of nowhere.

643
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:18,000
So isn't it like the enemy to if he can't get to me because I'm great up, I'm armored up, he gets to you.

644
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000
And then I'm going, wait, what's going on?

645
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Well, then that gets to Pastor Brian.

646
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000
That's not all about me.

647
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000
I don't want to make that all about me.

648
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000
It's about all of us.

649
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000
You did. You made it all about you.

650
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000
Well, he'll go through me to get to you.

651
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000
Oh my gosh. Wow. I quit. I'm out.

652
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,000
No, just wait and see if you know what's interesting.

653
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,000
I think Naomi, Brian's wife, has said this is he and I are so much alike.

654
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000
It's almost like we're a carbon copy of each other.

655
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000
We think alike.

656
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000
We we it's saying I'm married to Pastor Brian.

657
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000
No, I'm not.

658
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:59,000
But I'm saying the fact that he and I felt that at the same time was quite odd because I had no idea until he shared that with us.

659
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,000
And so I just find that interesting.

660
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
And well, I know you are.

661
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000
What are you looking at?

662
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000
I'm going through the word.

663
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
I'm going through the Bible.

664
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000
I was going to look up Second Corinthians 10.

665
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Listen to this description.

666
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
For though we walk in the flesh.

667
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000
This is Second Corinthians chapter 10 verse three.

668
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,000
For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh.

669
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:31,000
For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but have divine power to destroy strongholds.

670
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:39,000
We destroy arguments in every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God and take every thought captive to obey Christ.

671
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Being ready to punish every disobedience when your obedience is complete.

672
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
There's that right there.

673
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Just the first part, though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh.

674
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:57,000
So there is a spiritual war happening and it's happening 24 7.

675
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
But it's happening in this spiritual realm.

676
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,000
But every once in a while it's almost like it breaks the plane.

677
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
It breaks the fourth wall.

678
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000
And suddenly you can see it.

679
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, where did that come from?

680
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
What's funny is it's always been happening.

681
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
We just didn't see it or we weren't sensitive to it.

682
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,000
I always believe that the Lord gives us those moments where we it breaks the fourth wall and we see something.

683
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000
And I don't mean just seeing it with our eyes.

684
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000
I mean, we sense something.

685
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,000
We feel something.

686
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Sometimes it's negative.

687
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
You feel like, well, what is going on?

688
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Something's wrong.

689
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Something's up.

690
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Weird stuff.

691
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,000
When weird stuff happens, that puts me on point to say, OK, I need to remember my identity.

692
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
First of all, I need to remember who I am.

693
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
Right.

694
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
I'm a son of the most high God.

695
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:49,000
That is why I came in here and I just got in the work because that's what I needed more than anything.

696
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000
I didn't need to, you know, wallow in self-pity.

697
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Oh, my, what is wrong with me?

698
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Kind of thing.

699
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,000
I knew I needed God at that moment more than anything.

700
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000
And that's what you do.

701
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Now, let me ask you a question.

702
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Have you experienced when was the last time you experienced major warfare that you can remember?

703
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000
I mean, it happens often.

704
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,000
I know.

705
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000
But something that was very like visceral.

706
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000
I mean, I'm not I'm not a feeler like that.

707
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,000
I'm a feeler on my emotional side, but not on like sensitive physically.

708
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
So I don't get sick like all of a sudden I'm sick.

709
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,000
My stomach's churning or something because something weird is going on.

710
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,000
I don't register that way.

711
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,000
So I'm not saying I'm impervious to it.

712
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
It's just usually it's mental war for me.

713
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000
It will be stinking thinking.

714
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,000
I'll get depressed or, you know, feeling down or or.

715
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
I remember Pastor Ron in California.

716
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Yes, that's what was going through my mind.

717
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,000
I mean, the whole time I was in there feeling bad, I was picturing what happened to him.

718
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Yeah, Pastor Ron.

719
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Yeah.

720
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
So some people had to carry him out.

721
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,000
He was having such a visceral reaction while someone else was preaching.

722
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000
I'll never forget that.

723
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
I remember that's how I felt, Jimmy.

724
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000
And I literally.

725
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Twice.

726
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Yes.

727
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000
And I really felt like, oh, my gosh, Jimmy, I hope you're not going to have to carry me out.

728
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000
It was that kind of.

729
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000
But I'm not this is not typical for me.

730
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000
So it was very out of the ordinary.

731
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Yeah, so so so you you came in here and you had to remember who you are.

732
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,000
The reason why it's important to know who you are, because when you know who you are, you'll know what to do.

733
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Now, let me define that a little bit.

734
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000
When you know who you are, you begin to understand who you are in Christ.

735
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Your authority, your authority.

736
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
But it's not about understanding who I am in me.

737
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
I have nothing to bring to the table.

738
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000
No, no.

739
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,000
But in Christ, I've been made the righteousness of God, according to God's word.

740
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,000
In Christ, I'm the head and not the tail, Deuteronomy twenty seven tells me twenty eight.

741
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000
But in Christ, I can cast out demons.

742
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000
So I'll get there quicker than I was going to.

743
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000
I'm just saying let's just get to the chase.

744
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
But let's but let's also take people there.

745
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Yeah, let's help them understand there's there's a progress here is a process.

746
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
First of all, you got to understand who you are.

747
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:12,000
Now, when you understand who you are, you understand what you have authority over, because that's another really important piece.

748
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,000
A lot of people don't understand that God has given you jurisdiction in this world.

749
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
That's hard to comprehend.

750
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Sometimes I'm all over Genesis right now.

751
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000
That's what I'm reading.

752
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Genesis.

753
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
You know what?

754
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,000
I love the Bible.

755
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Although it's very pornographic.

756
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Hello.

757
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
I'm like there is some rough stuff in there.

758
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000
I was kind of read over and over.

759
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:39,000
But when you read with a different mindset and you're like, oh, OK, they got the father drunk and slip with them.

760
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000
The daughter is some crazy stuff.

761
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Yeah.

762
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000
So listen to this in Genesis chapter one, verse 26.

763
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000
You had to go there.

764
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,000
I know.

765
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000
I'm sorry.

766
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000
You just wandered off.

767
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
So everybody will be like, oh, I think I want to read Genesis.

768
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Genesis one twenty six.

769
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Listen to this.

770
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000
Then God said, let us make man in our image after our likeness.

771
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Now, I love that it's let that God said, let us.

772
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
There you go.

773
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000
It's not just there you go.

774
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
I know I'm going on another rabbit trail.

775
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000
I love that because that means it wasn't just God.

776
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000
It was not God.

777
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Jesus and the Holy Spirit right there and the host of heaven.

778
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Yeah, that's another thing for another time.

779
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000
The heavenly host.

780
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
There is already heavenly councils.

781
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000
There's so much more.

782
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Why don't we just think God is alone?

783
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:32,000
So then God said, let us make man in our image after our likeness and then let them have dominion.

784
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,000
That word right there is so critical because that that word means domain.

785
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:50,000
So when we say the kingdom of God, you know, Jesus referred to it many times, you know, the kingdom of God, the kingdom of heaven, you know, all that means is is the place or the king's domain.

786
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,000
The word kingdom means the king's domain, kingdom, king's domain.

787
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:03,000
So he says this and let them have dominion that in other words, we're going to give them jurisdiction.

788
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000
We're going to control authority.

789
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,000
If you look it up in Webster's sovereignty, dominion, sovereignty or control.

790
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000
It's the territory.

791
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,000
It's the territory.

792
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,000
So he's given us supremacy, domination.

793
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:25,000
He's given us control over the things of the air, of the things of this world.

794
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
How about I give it to you out of the Hebrew?

795
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000
You got Webster's there, which is good.

796
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Let me give it to you.

797
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,000
The original language in the Hebrew, it means to rule.

798
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
It does mean dominion.

799
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:42,000
It means to take, to prevail, to reign and to rule over means to have dominion, to dominate, to tread down.

800
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:54,000
In other words, you can actually walk over it, to have dominion, rule, subjugate, to cause, to dominate, to scrape out, to pick up and scrape out because it's yours.

801
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000
You're dominating it.

802
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
You're capturing it.

803
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
And so that word is very heavy, very powerful.

804
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
It's super powerful.

805
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000
So, but you ever ask a Christian, what's your authority in Christ?

806
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,000
And they don't know.

807
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,000
And they'll go, what are you talking about?

808
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000
What are you talking about?

809
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,000
I'll say, well, what do you have dominion over?

810
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,000
They won't know.

811
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Well, what do you have jurisdiction over?

812
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:22,000
This is a tragedy because it's like, it's not giving somebody who just joined the army and they go through boot camp and they teach them about war.

813
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
They tell them how to shoot a gun, but they never shoot a gun.

814
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Then they tell them they're going to be out there and they're going to get guns to do it.

815
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000
But then they never get a gun.

816
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Or if they're given a gun, they've never shot one before because they didn't train them for war.

817
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:41,000
And a lot of churches, and I'm not, I don't want to knock down churches, but I'm just saying the truth is we've not trained our people for war.

818
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Right.

819
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Spiritual war.

820
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000
And yet we've been teaching this for over 30 years.

821
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000
We've not trained them.

822
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000
And I'm saying broad strokes.

823
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Broad strokes, yeah.

824
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,000
We've been doing it a long time, but a lot of churches have not taught people.

825
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,000
People will say when you mention it, they'll say, I've never even heard of that.

826
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Exactly.

827
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000
And it's going to be something that I've never heard and I've been in church all my life.

828
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Even on the covenants, because the covenant is what outlines your jurisdiction.

829
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,000
This is part of the covenant.

830
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
This is the Genesis covenant.

831
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
And then it says this.

832
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:15,000
It says, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth.

833
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000
Hello.

834
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,000
And over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

835
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:33,000
So God created man in his own image and the image of God created him male and female created him and God blessed them and said to them, be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it.

836
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
There's again that same word.

837
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Now we would come back to the word we said dominate, but it literally means the same thing.

838
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000
You were to have dominion over it.

839
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:50,000
It says subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the heavens, over every living thing that moves on the earth.

840
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Here's the problem with climate change people.

841
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Oh, here we go.

842
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000
Keep it simple.

843
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
I won't even go long on this.

844
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000
It's really simple.

845
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:04,000
The people that have lost their minds over climate change have actually made a God out of earth.

846
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Exactly.

847
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,000
It's an idol.

848
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
And so what happens is it's upside down.

849
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000
We were told by God that we have dominion.

850
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000
We are to subjugate the earth.

851
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000
We are to have dominion over it.

852
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,000
It doesn't mean to destroy it.

853
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Right.

854
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
But it does mean that we rule the world.

855
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:34,000
What happens with people who have bought into the climate change lie and this toxic untruth as false teaching is that now the world has dominion over them, which is exactly opposite.

856
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000
It's inverse of what God wanted.

857
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
And they're worshiping climate change.

858
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,000
They're worshiping the world.

859
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
They're worshiping the earth.

860
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:53,000
It's it's it's hard for me to believe that there are people out there that are so involved in climate change that it's taken over their whole life.

861
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000
We see them every day.

862
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000
We see them at the grocery store.

863
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000
We see them when we're out about in town where we live, where we work and where we play.

864
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:08,000
We're we're surrounded by people who have bought the lie that we're somehow destroying the earth as though the earth is a living thing like an animal, like a creature.

865
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000
But it's not.

866
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,000
It's inner.

867
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
It's what God gave us.

868
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,000
It's called terra firma to put our feet on and we are to have dominion over it.

869
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,000
There'll be somebody who listens to me.

870
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000
They'll go, I don't like what you're saying, but I'll say, go to God's word and see what the word says.

871
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Genesis, chapter one, starting in verse twenty six and following.

872
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,000
We're told we have been given the ability to have dominion.

873
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000
So take control.

874
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000
So when that comes now, here comes spiritual warfare.

875
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Suddenly the enemy is telling us, hey, back out of this.

876
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Don't touch this.

877
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000
That's my territory.

878
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Or you can't have that or don't go into politics.

879
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Don't mess with any.

880
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000
That's my realm.

881
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
I'm the prince of the power of the air.

882
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,000
But we say, wait a minute.

883
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,000
We've been given dominion.

884
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000
We've been given the ability and the right to rule and reign.

885
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,000
We have biblically legal grounds to be here.

886
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:07,000
And that's why I never apologize for wherever I'm at bringing the gospel, bringing Christ, because I've been called by my God to be salt and light.

887
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,000
So what's the difference?

888
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000
And then we'll end with this.

889
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:21,000
But what is the difference in because I've heard people say there's a dominion theology and speaking on dominion because dominion theology can be a dangerous place.

890
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Right.

891
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:33,000
No, I mean, because really, I mean, we make these these are categories are manmade, you know, dominion theology, you know, where you do Arminian or Calvinist.

892
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
You know, we make all these things.

893
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000
This is man's teaching.

894
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000
I'm looking at God's word and saying this is what God says.

895
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000
This is the scripture.

896
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
So I don't care if you call it dominion theology, dominion teaching.

897
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000
I don't care.

898
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,000
I'm just going to tell you, I'm going to do what God's word tells me to do.

899
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:58,000
And God's word tells me that when he made man, let them have dominion over the fish of the earth, over all the earth and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

900
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
So I'm not walking in some theology.

901
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
I'm walking in what the Bible says.

902
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
That's the difference.

903
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:12,000
And in Christ, this teaching, this Old Testament, early beginnings, early foundational teaching comes back to life.

904
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
It comes back alive in us.

905
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,000
But here's the now the application is this.

906
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Once you know who you are, your identity, you know what?

907
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,000
What you've been given jurisdiction over, authority over, and it's over all the earth.

908
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,000
It's under our feet.

909
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000
We're not under the earth's feet.

910
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:34,000
The earth is under ours and we sit in Christ in heavenly places where everything's under our feet.

911
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
So what does that mean?

912
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:46,000
That means that now because I have a covenant with God for this, I now have the legal right, the legal right to claim this is true.

913
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:54,000
When you know something's true, you'll pray for it, stand for it, fight for it, and believe for it, and you will not be moved off of it.

914
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
So this is where the application comes.

915
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
You now have jurisdiction.

916
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000
You now have authority.

917
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:09,000
And when you know that and you can be confident in it, then you can stand up against any devil in hell that comes against you, anything that comes against you.

918
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Isaiah 54.

919
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000
No, nothing that comes.

920
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,000
No weapon.

921
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:21,000
No weapon formed against you shall prosper, but every tongue that rises against you, you shall show to be in the wrong.

922
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000
That's Isaiah 54.

923
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Why can we do that?

924
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Because we have jurisdiction.

925
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,000
We have dominion.

926
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,000
We have authority.

927
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,000
So let me give you a prayer.

928
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000
You were looking at something.

929
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,000
No, no.

930
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Go ahead and nod.

931
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,000
I think you should get to the prayer.

932
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,000
This is by John Aldridge.

933
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,000
And I'm going to put this in our, I'm going to copy it and put it in our newsletter so you'll have it.

934
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,000
It's a great prayer.

935
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:46,000
You can go Living Up and a Down World and subscribe to the newsletter and this will be in number 87.

936
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000
So I'll go do that later today or tomorrow.

937
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,000
So that will go out.

938
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
So you'll have this prayer.

939
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,000
So you don't have to try to copy it or anything.

940
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,000
But I'm going to read it to you.

941
00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:02,000
John Aldridge with his guys in Wild at Heart up in Colorado Springs were talking about this on their podcast on Monday after we'd gone through all this craziness.

942
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000
I mean just wild stuff.

943
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Also with our cabinets, I mean just chaos.

944
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
You shouldn't have even mentioned that.

945
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Well we're not going to go down that road yet on this.

946
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
But here's the thing.

947
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,000
That's just another element where the enemy has tried to encroach and create distraction.

948
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Distraction and chaos.

949
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Chaos, desolation, all of that to take our attention away and get us off our mission.

950
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:31,000
And so I mean it's so bad it could result, I'm not claiming this will happen, but it could result in a lawsuit and all that.

951
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:37,000
So because it's a long story but a very terrible unjust thing happened to us.

952
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000
And things like that don't usually happen to us.

953
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000
No, this was quite out of the ordinary.

954
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Again, weird stuff.

955
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Last week.

956
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Weird stuff.

957
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000
So I get in my car.

958
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,000
I'm going to go meet Tommy Hayes, one of my favorite human beings, for lunch on Monday.

959
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
So I'm going from here at the church over to Hill and Vine.

960
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
Which is just five minutes down the road.

961
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,000
It's probably seven minutes down the road.

962
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000
But it's down the road.

963
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:06,000
But from the moment I got in my car until I drove up in that parking lot over there and parked, I went to war.

964
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000
I fought.

965
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,000
I used the basis of this, but I put my own words in it.

966
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,000
But this captures it in a shorter version than what I did.

967
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,000
And when I walked into that restaurant I was so built up on the inside because I had been doing warfare.

968
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Because I know who I am.

969
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,000
I know that I have been given this authority and dominion.

970
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:31,000
So I get back from lunch, you're back from lunch, we're scattered, we're going different directions.

971
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
And then you say, guess what?

972
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
I just got a call and blah, blah, blah.

973
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
We had some breakthrough.

974
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
We had some breakthrough.

975
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,000
And I said, when did you talk to them?

976
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,000
And it was literally just a few minutes after I had prayed this prayer.

977
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
I connected the dots immediately.

978
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
And it's not because I'm so bold and smart.

979
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
It's because the Holy Spirit led me to do that.

980
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,000
He said, you need a breakthrough so I'm going to give you a breakthrough.

981
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
And that's exactly what happened.

982
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000
And so here's the prayer.

983
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,000
I just labeled it because I just took it off of John Eldridge's podcast.

984
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Just transcribed it.

985
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Praying with authority.

986
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Because that's what we have to understand.

987
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
We have authority, but we've got to pray with authority.

988
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,000
And here's how he would do it.

989
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
And I'm just going to read it out loud.

990
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:18,000
In the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ as His partner and friend and in His name,

991
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,000
I bring and command the creation and glory of the living God against all chaos,

992
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,000
trying to get into blank.

993
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000
What is He trying to get into?

994
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Your life, your relationship, your work, whatever, a decision.

995
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Whatever your realm is.

996
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Just get specific right there.

997
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:41,000
I bring the breath and the glory of the Lord Jesus Christ and of our Father,

998
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:48,000
the Almighty, breath and glory of the living God against this darkness and desolation.

999
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,000
And we send it utterly to its destruction in the authority of Christ.

1000
00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:00,000
We banish chaos, disruption, desolation, and disorder from our realm.

1001
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,000
And we send it into the abyss in Jesus' name and authority.

1002
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Amen.

1003
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,000
That's a warfare prayer.

1004
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,000
That's a warfare prayer.

1005
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,000
That's throwing it down.

1006
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
It's a great way to end the show.

1007
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,000
It is. It's powerful.

1008
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Hopefully you'll have that printed before the show goes out.

1009
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,000
So that people can...

1010
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Yeah, I'll put the show out.

1011
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,000
I'm going to put out a newsletter.

1012
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,000
So go to livingupinadoworld.com and subscribe to...

1013
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,000
Did I get that right?

1014
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Livingupinadoworld.com.

1015
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000
You're right.

1016
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,000
You've been right today.

1017
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,000
I've been hitting it.

1018
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000
It's a miracle.

1019
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000
I'm actually saying it right.

1020
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Shock.

1021
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
But go there and you can subscribe for this.

1022
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000
I'll keep it on there for a few.

1023
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000
If you miss the one from this week, next time it'll be on there.

1024
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
So, hey, thanks for joining us for the show.

1025
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,000
We talked about some weird stuff today.

1026
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,000
We did.

1027
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000
That's going to be the title of the show, Weird Stuff.

1028
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,000
So look for the show.

1029
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,000
If you want to recommend to somebody that will help them and encourage them,

1030
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,000
we'll probably pick up on and give some updates as we go.

1031
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,000
This is important that we bring people along with us in real time on this.

1032
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,000
That's good.

1033
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000
Hey, anything else you want to say on the way out?

1034
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,000
No.

1035
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,000
We do need to give some thank yous to Jill for giving us...

1036
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Yes.

1037
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,000
I think it was $80 this week, so that was very sweet of her.

1038
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000
And I know we had some sats come in.

1039
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,000
Well, Adam Curry, of course, the pod father, he's blessed us with sats.

1040
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,000
And man, there's just people...

1041
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,000
We may not name everybody by name.

1042
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
It's hard to do that on this, but we just want to say thank you for supporting the podcast

1043
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
and supporting us.

1044
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Thank you for the notes we got.

1045
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000
I got to hear from a couple of people this week.

1046
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
And I just want to say thank you for reaching out.

1047
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
You can do that through our website.

1048
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000
It's so easy.

1049
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000
And hey, we want to invite you to join us in a prayer.

1050
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,000
I got a prayer project.

1051
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000
I want to invite our listeners to go in with us.

1052
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,000
So I'm going to start a new podcast, but it's going to be about interviews.

1053
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,000
It's going to be interviewing people.

1054
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,000
We're going to put it on Hello Fred, which you need to check out.

1055
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:00,000
Go to our website, our church website, bridgefbg.com.

1056
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Scroll halfway down the front page and click on Hello Fred.

1057
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:11,000
It's a 24-7 streaming radio station that we've developed along with Adam Curry.

1058
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Adam's really the brainchild.

1059
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,000
I just kind of help provide some content here and there.

1060
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000
But it's got words of encouragement on it.

1061
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,000
It's not like preaching and stuff.

1062
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,000
It's real short, but to the point and then just great music.

1063
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,000
And we just continue to update it.

1064
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:30,000
And you'll get 24-7 encouragement online anywhere you've got your phone or iPad or computer.

1065
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,000
I cast it on our Sonos and it works great.

1066
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,000
So go there and check out Hello Fred.

1067
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000
We want to encourage you.

1068
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
We want to bring you along.

1069
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000
And here's what my ask is.

1070
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,000
We need a name for this podcast.

1071
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Now, we're Hill Country.

1072
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,000
So I mean, this is all this is.

1073
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000
So you want to say Hill Country?

1074
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,000
It doesn't have to, but it kind of rings well because we're going to be interviewing a lot.

1075
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,000
But maybe not everybody.

1076
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
But I don't think everybody's going to come from the Hill Country.

1077
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:05,000
And you may have some like you're going to have you hope to have Texas Justice John Devine.

1078
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,000
I mean, he's in Austin, which is the Hill Country.

1079
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,000
But he may be talking about the whole state of Texas.

1080
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,000
So I think you're limiting yourself there.

1081
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,000
You may be right.

1082
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,000
So if you have you got any good names for a podcast, it's an interview podcast.

1083
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Really, really dealing with what's happening in our current realm.

1084
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
I mean, this is engaging culture.

1085
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000
What's happening around us?

1086
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Got a good thought.

1087
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Send it to me through livingupandadownworld.com.

1088
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Just write us a note.

1089
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,000
Anyway, we'll keep you posted on that.

1090
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
Really, really appreciate you.

1091
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,000
Annette, what do you think?

1092
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000
You've got a sleeping face.

1093
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,000
I'm just glad to be back.

1094
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
It's been a long time.

1095
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
You've been out of the saddle.

1096
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Welcome back.

1097
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000
We'll talk about what happened.

1098
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Hopefully, we won't have to have a lawsuit.

1099
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,000
But we'll talk about it on an upcoming show.

1100
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:14,000
All right, folks, keep living up in the down world and have a great week on purpose.