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What a day I'm telling you,

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all things will be new.

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Living up in a down world.

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Yeah we're living, yeah we're living,

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living up in a down world.

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Oh!

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This is Jimmy Nanette and we are coming to you from

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the heart of Bridge Church,

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Stratford, Texas.

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In our studio.

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In our studio slash office.

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I got probably the coolest office in town, would you agree?

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Everybody who comes in here, especially Adam Curry,

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loves this office.

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And I'm having an office built, eventually.

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Yes, I know.

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Brian, our executive pastor,

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Brian and I are having offices built,

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because I don't have an office.

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I'm in a temporary office for now,

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until we hire a new producer.

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But yeah, I think I'm gonna,

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mine needs to be a little nicer than this.

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Oh my gosh.

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Cause I'm a female.

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You're a male, males don't care.

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Well this is where we do a lot of meetings in here as well,

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so it's not just the studio, it's a meeting room.

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Yeah, when Rebecca Alonso was here.

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No, it is a great office.

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It's beautiful.

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It's quiet and the carpet is nice.

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The sound is phenomenal.

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We've got sound panels all over the place.

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And we do our video shoots in here.

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So how are you doing on this very special day, by the way?

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Today is our 32nd wedding anniversary.

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And 32 years of wow.

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Yes, 32 years of wow.

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Although I just had a women's meeting

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with part of our women's leadership team of the church

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because we wanted to talk about our last event

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and kind of go over dos and don'ts for our next one

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and only 19 or 18 responses came in.

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what kind of events would you like in the future,

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That was the overwhelming response was marriage.

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People want to know how to have a wonderful marriage

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How to keep from having constant challenges in your marriage.

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And so I told on you.

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I know.

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I'm bringing this up because somebody might say something,

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before you get married.

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Tell the story you told them.

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It was even worse.

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I was playing golf with my brother.

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and it was not pretty.

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And I should have left right then and I didn't.

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There was a disturbance in the force definitely this morning.

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Well, honestly, no, but let me say this.

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I don't even know that person.

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I got really sick with a really, really bad flu.

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and Jimmy had a golf game planned with his brother.

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and I wasn't happy about that because I'm sick as a dog.

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That is correct.

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because I'm like, I can't believe you actually

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played another round and I'm this sick.

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Okay, you did.

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And the next week we went and met with our pastor

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and he put you in your place.

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I know he did.

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He said you were being selfish and your wife was homesick.

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I know you're looking... Okay, for the audience,

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He's like about to have a blowout right now.

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the last 32 years making it up to me.

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I'm on an emotional roller coaster right now.

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I know you are.

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31, 32 years old and dumb kids.

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you were pretty independent because your wife didn't do anything.

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We have real life to live.

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this is what I told the women, 32 years making it up to me.

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You do not play golf.

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I am now helping you along with doing things outside of us.

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was a whole other person and a whole other lifetime

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because I've never seen that side of you ever again in 32 years.

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but sometimes things have to happen.

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To bring things to the surface.

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OK, I can't do this marriage the same way I did the other marriage.

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I can't just be independent.

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I have spent 32 years saying, no, I don't need to go do that.

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It's not a weird dysfunctional thing.

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For one, they needed to see that you're not absolutely 100% perfect.

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That there is hope if any of them or they know someone who's in a marriage

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to where there's some challenges like that.

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we need help.

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Because this happened, this happened.

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I don't think you responded right.

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I'll never forget that.

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That made an impression on you.

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Oh, it made a huge impression to where you're that way when you meet with people.

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I'm not an LPC.

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I'm not a licensed professional counselor.

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I would never have left it open.

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I would have just gone and ran my car into a tree or something.

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It was a terrible memory because I just remember how horrible I felt afterwards

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and realized how I just totally missed the boat

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and that I can't do things the same way I did them before.

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I can't fall into...

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Something had to change and it was me in that case.

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my teens that I brought into the marriage.

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especially Alicia being as rebellious as she was.

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hey, I heard about what you did and you go, what?

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I know.

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But you know what?

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This is what I told him.

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And this is our anniversary.

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So I'm going to say this to everyone that is listening.

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I have the best husband anybody could ever have in the whole wide world.

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And I said this to them and they all said,

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wait, you don't know my husband.

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I have the best husband.

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And I'm like, I will arm wrestle you for that.

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No, just kidding.

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But I literally...

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This is what I love about you.

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I know we were going to do something else,

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but this is going to be about you.

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And the best thing is anytime you have hurt in some way me,

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I mean, the littlest things, you can't stand it.

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You are the type that you own up to things immediately.

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I don't know anybody like that.

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You really are a great man and you have a heart of gold.

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And you want to make sure everybody's happy.

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Everybody's filled with hope.

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Everybody's in a good place.

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And you're a positive, wonderful man.

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And I have never been around anybody like you.

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I'm privileged and blessed to be married to you for 32 years.

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So I have to say that.

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You can't say anything back.

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This is not about me.

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Because then now you're going to feel like you need to say something.

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I don't want you to.

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I want you to relish in the love I have for you.

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And it's bigger and wider than anything that I've ever experienced in my life

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other than my relationship with the Lord.

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Thank you.

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Do we need to hit stop and get a room?

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I know.

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Well, we're going home in a little while.

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I know.

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Welcome to episode 83 of Moving Up and Down in Warhol.

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Well, it is our anniversary.

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These are the days of our lives.

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I used to love that show.

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Everybody did.

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Yeah, it's crazy.

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But I do.

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I want you to know that is how I talk about you in public

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with anybody I'm talking with about our marriage

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and about you as a husband.

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And you really are special.

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You really are.

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Thank you, Beth.

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I love you so much.

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I love you and appreciate that so much.

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It's huge.

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It's hard to hear, honestly.

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I know.

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It is.

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I'm used to giving it out.

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You're used to giving it out.

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I'm not the praise.

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So it's hard to receive.

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But I do.

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I want to say thank you for saying that out loud

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and for the millions of listeners.

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The millions.

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For the handful of folks we have listening to our podcast,

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I do thank you for that.

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And you and the ladies were talking about

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what does it take to make a good marriage.

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One simple thing is to talk your spouse up to other people.

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Never talk them down.

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Oh, my gosh.

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So many marriages tanked.

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So many relationships damaged.

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Power of your words.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Because of talking your spouse down to other people.

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Because you're mad.

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Because you're angry.

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You want to be validated.

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And that is one of the most dangerous things you can do.

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Because those emotions pass.

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And you may say things in a moment of emotion

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that you don't feel all the time.

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But in that moment, you feel that.

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You just want to be validated in your anger.

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And so you say something that you do and will regret.

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And I'm just so thankful that we have done, I think, well

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in that category.

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We have.

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Where our heart is to build each other up.

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Because there's enough negativity in the world

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without us having to add to it.

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That's what I love about you.

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That's the difference in our personalities.

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You see the cup half full and I see it half empty.

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And so the longer we're married, the fuller that cup is.

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Because it's kind of like you have become more like me

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and that you're more black and white than you used to be.

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And I'm a little bit more grayer than I used to be.

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We were laughing about that this morning.

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Yes, we were.

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And that's the difference.

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Or that's what happens when you're together a long time.

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You begin to kind of bleed over with each other.

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And you both look the same.

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If it's healthy.

375
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If it's healthy, yes.

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And if it's healthy, if you do, you begin to grow towards the center.

377
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That's what I call that.

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Where you're starting to meet each other in the middle more.

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But over time, you both gravitate that way.

380
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Because I made a comment this morning.

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It was kind of hardcore like Bible stuff.

382
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And you're like, that sounds like something I would say.

383
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I would say, yes.

384
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It does, doesn't it?

385
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You're rubbing off on me after 32 years.

386
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That happens.

387
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Well, you finally came over to the other side.

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Finally, finally.

389
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You're not so positive anymore.

390
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No, no, no, no.

391
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It's not about that.

392
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I know.

393
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It wasn't even a negative thing.

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But it was actually being more in terms of as Christians calling people out to live this

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life instead of playing games.

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And so, yeah, you've definitely rubbed off on me.

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Because I had a large gray area.

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A lot of grace for people.

399
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A lot of grace for people.

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And part of that is because I needed so much grace.

401
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Yes, you did.

402
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And still do.

403
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Yes.

404
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That, yeah, thanks for agreeing on that.

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No, we all do.

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But I do.

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And so, I do tend to give out what I need.

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And I have a lot more grace for people than I used to.

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You do, for sure.

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Because the Lord has taken a lot of the traumas in my life and turned it from contempt to

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compassion.

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And so, I have a lot more grace.

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And so, you have definitely rubbed off on me in that.

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Another thing that you've really shifted in is that you've become a hugger.

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I know.

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There was a day even when I would hug you.

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I would recoil.

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You'd have to stop and think for a second, wait, this is my husband.

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Yeah.

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And then you'd hug me.

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But your first initial, it was like hugging a two-by-four.

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I know.

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It's stiff.

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And yet Tina and Adam say you're not really a hugger, but they have no idea where I came

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from.

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Oh my gosh.

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They have no idea.

428
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I am really.

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Oh, on Sunday mornings, I'm seeing you're like, bring it in here.

430
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I know.

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Someone will shake my hand.

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I'm like, well, can I hug you?

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Give me a hug.

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And they're like, sure.

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And I'm like, I can't believe I just said that.

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But yeah, you definitely brought that out in me.

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And a lot of times I'll ask people if I can hug them because you never know.

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No, I agree with that.

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Of course, some people could say no, and that would be weird.

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I'm that way too.

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But I still want to.

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Especially if people don't know well.

443
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Yeah.

444
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Yeah.

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So much of our past, so much of how we were raised impacts a lot of those things.

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And I just had an affectionate family.

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And I didn't.

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So that was like normal for me.

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I was telling you the day, and it sounds kind of funny to say it now in retrospect, but

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my grandmother was one of our lunch ladies when I was in high school.

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I know.

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You got all the free good food.

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Oh, I got the good stuff.

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Because I liked some of the food.

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She put extra sugar in the cornbread for mine.

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Oh, and the rolls.

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And my friends.

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My friends always wanted to eat with me at the cafeteria.

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The rolls.

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She probably gave you extra rolls.

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Always, always.

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And she always did little extra goodies.

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Like, I'd get a real piece of cake instead of the cake that you got.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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And she'd make it and make it and bring it for you.

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Oh, yeah.

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She'd make it right there.

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Oh, my gosh.

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So.

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I actually thought that I can still taste the food in my mouth from school.

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Can you?

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Literally, I can.

474
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Yeah, I actually, I didn't have any problem with it.

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I didn't either.

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I liked the food.

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Now you're making me hungry because it is lunchtime.

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I know I'm getting hungry too.

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But I would go in and I did this until I graduated from high school.

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But I would go to lunch.

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All my friends are with me.

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And I'd walk right over.

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I'd kiss my grandmother right on the lips.

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Wow.

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And I'd be like, oh, it's just a peck, a little peck, you know.

486
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Wow.

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But I was like, this is my grandmother.

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And I don't care.

489
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See, you're lucky.

490
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I'm not trying to be too cool for that.

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I didn't have a grandmother that was around past the age of six, I think, or 10 or something.

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Some real young age, so I don't remember much.

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And she didn't live in the same town, so it was quite different.

494
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You had a great upbringing.

495
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I'm very, the older I get, the more I realize how blessed I was.

496
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Yes.

497
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Even though your parents weren't godly, they were good parents.

498
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Well, I would say maybe saying godly is not the right way to even characterize that.

499
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They just were not Christians.

500
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Yeah.

501
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But they had godly characteristics.

502
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Right.

503
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That's true.

504
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Common courtesies.

505
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Man, I learned those young.

506
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Boy.

507
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How to work hard.

508
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I've never met anybody like you.

509
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How to leave things better than you found them.

510
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My dad gave me a lot of really good just life lessons.

511
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You know, leave it better than you found it.

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You know, those kinds of things where I pack it in, pack it out.

513
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You know, I just, he did good on that.

514
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And I really appreciate it.

515
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My mom was just very self-sacrificing for us.

516
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Loving.

517
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A very loving mom.

518
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Yeah, very, very much so.

519
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So yes, very, very, very blessed.

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And then when I became a Christian, they didn't recoil, you know.

521
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Well, your dad tell you not to get carried away.

522
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He said don't become a fanatical, and my comeback was too late.

523
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Too late.

524
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I'm already there.

525
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But it was more tongue-in-cheek, and it wasn't mean-spirited at all.

526
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Never, never.

527
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They're just, I'm very grateful my parents were not mean-spirited.

528
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I feel terrible if they ended up in a divorce, you know, when I was 17.

529
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But I was kind of on the way out anyway.

530
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I was already looking towards, you know, my senior year of high school

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and what's coming next, going to college and all that.

532
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So in a sense, I would say it was not as impactful on my life as it was on my brother's.

533
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000
Right, because he was three years younger.

534
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,000
Three years younger, and so it landed a lot harder with him for obvious reasons.

535
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000
Right, right.

536
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000
Me, I'm like, I was never home.

537
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000
I was playing all the sports.

538
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000
I had a car.

539
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000
So I was never home anyway.

540
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,000
Even though it saddened me through the years, I would just say it didn't impact me as deeply,

541
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000
which is understandable.

542
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:32,000
But because you had a great upbringing with great values, it carried over to your adulthood,

543
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000
and you have great values.

544
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000
So you becoming a Christian just enhanced that even more.

545
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000
It wasn't like you changed drastically.

546
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000
You already had that imprinted on you.

547
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000
It even shaped my worldview.

548
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000
Yes.

549
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000
Because I don't, even as dark as it can get out there,

550
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,000
and like during this last election cycle, Rome's burning, the world's on fire,

551
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000
I still live up in the middle of that.

552
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:59,000
I still just refuse to let that define my life.

553
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000
Which is why we named this podcast, Living Up in a Down World,

554
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000
because you have always lived up in a down world.

555
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000
I haven't.

556
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000
And I've had some down stuff that I had to overcome.

557
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,000
But you still, you always saw the positive.

558
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,000
I think that's my call, but I'm going to deny it right now.

559
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000
Thank you.

560
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Since I'm doing a podcast right now.

561
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,000
The thing is, I think it's what's...

562
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,000
I don't know what you just did, but you didn't turn it off.

563
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000
I put it voicemail, so it was going to my voicemail.

564
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,000
No, it actually said waiting.

565
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000
It's a weird thing.

566
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000
I've never seen that before.

567
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000
I know, very heavy.

568
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000
That's what I'm saying.

569
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000
I think it's a consumer cellular thing.

570
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000
We're old people's way of consumer cellular.

571
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000
But anyway, now you made me lose my train of thought.

572
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000
Sorry.

573
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000
Oh my gosh.

574
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000
I'm going to be messed up now.

575
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000
I know, it's okay.

576
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000
Okay, I got you all fixed up.

577
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
You're good to go.

578
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000
Thank you.

579
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,000
Thank you so much.

580
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000
Phone's back in service.

581
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000
Whatever you hit.

582
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:06,000
I think because when you became a Christian, you really...

583
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:13,000
It's crazy because I've had to change over time drastically to overcome things.

584
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,000
But you haven't because God already put His heart in you.

585
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
And you just needed...

586
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,000
I guess you just needed a standard.

587
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000
You needed the Bible.

588
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,000
You needed that in your life to give you a standard rather than just the values that

589
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000
your parents gave you.

590
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000
Does that make sense?

591
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000
Yeah, it does.

592
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:41,000
It kind of reminds me, we watched a wonderful, wonderful podcast interview with...

593
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,000
It was actually Jordan Peterson's program.

594
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000
He was interviewing Greg Lorry from Jesus Revolution.

595
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000
He's a pastor, 72 years old and still going strong.

596
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
He's so healthy.

597
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
He looks amazing.

598
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Yeah.

599
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000
I mean, he's like still going strong.

600
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000
And he pastors Calvary Chapel Church.

601
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,000
And he was part of the Jesus Revolution, the Jesus movement in California.

602
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000
Which the movie was based on his life.

603
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000
Yeah, Jesus Revolution.

604
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,000
So Jordan Peterson watched the movie, was fascinated by it and reached out to Pastor

605
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000
Greg Lorry and...

606
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000
Had him on his show.

607
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000
Lorry, I always get it.

608
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,000
Lorry.

609
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Lorry.

610
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000
And had him on his show.

611
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000
And it was a phenomenal interview.

612
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000
It was like an hour and 45 minutes and we watched the whole thing.

613
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000
We did.

614
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000
I hardly blinked.

615
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000
You know me.

616
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000
I know.

617
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000
I don't sit there for that long.

618
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
No.

619
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000
I have to get up and move around.

620
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,000
I was all in.

621
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000
It was so good.

622
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000
It was that good.

623
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,000
And I can relate a little bit to a story not from his past in terms of having a rough upbringing.

624
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,000
He had a very difficult time with his mother and abandoned by his fathers.

625
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000
All seven of them.

626
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000
Gosh.

627
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000
You know, rough, rough go.

628
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:58,000
Which led him into the hippie drug culture of the 60s and 70s right around 1970.

629
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000
My story wasn't quite that like that.

630
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000
But the transformation when Jesus came into my life was.

631
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000
Well, it's because again, you didn't grow up in church.

632
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Neither did Greg Lorry.

633
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000
He didn't go until he was 17.

634
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000
You were 17 before you went to church.

635
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Almost 18.

636
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000
And so you can relate to that.

637
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000
You didn't have that in your background.

638
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000
I didn't have to overcome a lot of the pain, the trauma.

639
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000
I'm very blessed in that.

640
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000
So that's been very helpful.

641
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
And of course, that shapes your worldview.

642
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000
You don't look at the world as a scary place.

643
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000
You look at it as there's scary people and there's scary situations.

644
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000
But that doesn't make the whole world bad.

645
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,000
So yeah, that did shape and does continue to shape my worldview.

646
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Even in the craziness that's happening now, I still just have great hope.

647
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
I really do.

648
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,000
Which I align more with Kirk Cameron on that because Kirk Cameron is all about,

649
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000
hey, let's not lose hope.

650
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,000
While we're here on this earth, let's bring it to a better place.

651
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000
Whereas some Christians have said, oh no, we're in the last of the last days.

652
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000
It's got to get worse before it gets better.

653
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,000
And so they sell out to this negative mentality of, well, then don't try to make it better.

654
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Just let it go bad.

655
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000
That way Jesus will come back quicker.

656
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
I mean, it's insane.

657
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
It is.

658
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000
And so I'm more in line with Kirk on that of saying, no, no, no, no.

659
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:25,000
While we're here on our watch, we have a responsibility to bring the kingdom of God here now.

660
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Anyway, that really impacted my life.

661
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,000
So I really related to Greg in that sense as he was talking about.

662
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000
He had very, very quick exponential growth in his faith.

663
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
He had Chuck Smith who came along and mentored in my head.

664
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Great man of God.

665
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000
I had Pastor Kim Norwood and others.

666
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000
He was a mentor to me, a pastor.

667
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
Pastor Hank Scott.

668
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000
Along the way, God always put people on my path to mentor me.

669
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Which I never had that.

670
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:56,000
I had a few Sunday school teachers when I was young, but when I was older, I did not have a mentor.

671
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000
I will say this.

672
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000
I chased them.

673
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000
I learned how to chase early on.

674
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
And I didn't know how to do that.

675
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000
So I really wasn't mentored until you and I got married.

676
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,000
I get that.

677
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000
And I think a part of that too is I was an athlete growing up, so I always had coaches in my life.

678
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000
So you knew how to...

679
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000
I knew how to pursue.

680
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,000
If I wanted to play, I knew I needed to get that coach's attention, which means I needed to be in his orbit.

681
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Well, you even pursued your college dean so that you got a free ride to college because you pursued the person

682
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:31,000
that was in charge of giving out the scholarships, and you made sure that they knew you were serious about college,

683
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
and you needed scholarships.

684
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
I know. I couldn't have done it otherwise, especially going to a private college.

685
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,000
But again, this goes back to your character and your values.

686
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000
It really does.

687
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000
And you know what's valuable, and so you're going to pursue whatever it takes.

688
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000
Again, credit to my parents for teaching me to...

689
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000
Gosh. It's huge.

690
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,000
To chase what... To go after what you believe you need.

691
00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Fortunately, as a Christian, it was very shaped and formed by Scripture and the Bible and the right things.

692
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,000
I think had I not have become a Christian, I would have different motives.

693
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000
It would have been more about me.

694
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000
So let me say this.

695
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:16,000
As we were watching Jordan Peterson and Pastor Greg Lowry, Jordan has read the Bible over and over.

696
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
He knows the Scripture.

697
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,000
He's written books about it.

698
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,000
He's not a Christian yet, but look at who he's pursuing.

699
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:33,000
He's pursuing a lot of godly, especially pastors, but godly men and women and having them on his show.

700
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:39,000
It's like he is so searching for who God really...

701
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000
He knows the Word.

702
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,000
He knows the Scripture, but he doesn't know Jesus personally.

703
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,000
But look at what he's doing.

704
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000
He's doing the same thing you did.

705
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:55,000
You pursued everyone that had a godly relationship because you wanted that from God.

706
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000
And that's what Jordan Peterson is doing.

707
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000
He is right on the cusp of becoming a Christian.

708
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,000
That was what was so fascinating about watching that yesterday,

709
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:11,000
is he was listening to every word of Pastor Greg's testimony,

710
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:16,000
and then he was breaking it apart and asking him those hard questions.

711
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Well, how did you know?

712
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000
How did you know this when you did this?

713
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,000
How did you know?

714
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000
That was really interesting.

715
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:30,000
I would recommend people, especially if you know who Greg Lowry is or you know who Jordan Peterson is,

716
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000
who is a psychologist out of Canada.

717
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000
He's brilliant.

718
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000
He's with the Daily Wire.

719
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
He is phenomenal.

720
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000
In fact, he was the reason why we went on Carnivore.

721
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Yeah, we watched him on Joe Rogan,

722
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,000
talking about his daughter who had so many conditions healed.

723
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Healed from that.

724
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,000
And then he and his wife both went on it, and now all three of them have been on it for years.

725
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,000
And now his daughter has kind of gone more keto, which is kind of what I've done.

726
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,000
But man, he's brilliant.

727
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
He is a brilliant man.

728
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000
In fact, he goes over our head a lot.

729
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
We're like, what did he just say?

730
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
Even last night, I looked at you and I said, I have no idea what he's talking about.

731
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,000
And we looked at Greg Lowry and we went, he's probably saying the same thing.

732
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
I have no idea what you're saying.

733
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
So let me just reiterate what I just said.

734
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
And maybe it was amazing.

735
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000
I think it's hysterical, actually.

736
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000
That was a great interview.

737
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:39,000
And what I loved about it is Greg was so, you could tell his whole task for being there was to show who Christ is

738
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,000
because he wants Jordan Peterson to have that relationship, that it's not about the head knowledge.

739
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
It's about the heart.

740
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Because that's where Jordan Peterson has a hard time because he's so about knowledge and the head knowledge.

741
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000
But it's hard for him to understand through the heart.

742
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:03,000
And that's why a lot of people who have head knowledge, they think they're Christians,

743
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
but it hasn't connected to their heart.

744
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000
So they don't know how to live for him on a daily basis.

745
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
You've heard me say this over and over.

746
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Sorry to interrupt.

747
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
No, no, you're good.

748
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
It's an insertion point.

749
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
You're talking about the 18 inches?

750
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Yes.

751
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000
I said it again on Sunday and somebody came to me and said, oh my gosh, that was huge for me.

752
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
You said it Sunday?

753
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Or maybe it was last Wednesday.

754
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000
It was one last Wednesday when I taught on faith.

755
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:30,000
I said I would hate to miss heaven by 18 inches because there's a difference between a head knowledge,

756
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000
which is called mental ascent, where you kind of, you know in your head these things,

757
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:39,000
but you've never made the leap, the 18 inch leap from the heart, so the center of your head,

758
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000
brain to the center of average man is 18 inches.

759
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000
And I just said I'd hate to miss heaven by 18 inches.

760
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,000
By 18 inches.

761
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000
And that's so true.

762
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
And so I look at what Jordan's doing.

763
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Now he's doing the right things.

764
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
He's a thinker.

765
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Man, is he a thinker.

766
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
He's an analyzer.

767
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
He has to do this.

768
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000
So in a way that's just, he's wired this way.

769
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
I think he's so near the kingdom.

770
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
I did read a little bit about his wife.

771
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000
She is a believer.

772
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000
She's a Christian.

773
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:09,000
She's pursuing Catholicism as a born again believer because she likes the symbolism and

774
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
all the iconoclasticism.

775
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000
She loves all that.

776
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000
And that's totally awesome, totally legitimate.

777
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000
But she's pursuing Jesus.

778
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000
She even has podcasts that have spiritual.

779
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Which I think that's probably why he's on the pursuit because he sees something in her.

780
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:33,000
And I would say it would be hard for someone that's so highly intellectual to, I remember

781
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000
Norm Porman.

782
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Angel and Norm Porman were friends of ours in Abilene.

783
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000
They were in our church for a time.

784
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:46,000
And I remember she's real just out there artsy, just lover of the world.

785
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000
And he is so highly intelligent.

786
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
He's a dentist in Abilene.

787
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000
He's analytical.

788
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Very analytical.

789
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000
And he wasn't getting it.

790
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000
He would come to church but he just wasn't getting it.

791
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000
And he was driving hard.

792
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000
He wanted what she had and what we had.

793
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:07,000
And then the next time I saw him after we moved away and I saw him, he was a whole different

794
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000
person because it finally clicked with him.

795
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:17,000
And I remember I went to the dentist office and we got in a circle with some of the employees

796
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000
and it was Angel and Norm.

797
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000
And he was praying heaven down.

798
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000
He was saying things that I have never heard come out of his mouth.

799
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
And I thought he finally connected it.

800
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000
This is Jordan Peterson.

801
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000
It's going to, this is even last night as we were watching this episode, I was praying,

802
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Lord, just connect it, connect it, connect it.

803
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Because he's so on the cusp of being a solid Christian because he knows so much.

804
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:52,000
I can't imagine if he can really get that relationship to where he is really depending

805
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,000
on God instead of what, you know, just the scriptures, what will happen.

806
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000
He could be an amazing preacher.

807
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Doesn't mean he has to be in a pulpit, but where he's at, where you live, work, and play,

808
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000
as we say.

809
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,000
And I'm excited because I think that's why God keeps putting him in paths of people to

810
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000
help him get to that place.

811
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000
And some people need a little bit more help.

812
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,000
But I also prayed this, just like I prayed, you know, I've been praying for the

813
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,000
administration and I've been praying for the upcoming and for the prior

814
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,000
administration, praying for a visitation in the bedroom of people who don't know

815
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Christ, who need Christ.

816
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000
I did that last night.

817
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,000
I said, Lord, is it going to take a visitation from Christ himself in the

818
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,000
bedroom at night when you're laying there and then he appears like it's what's

819
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
happening in Ibram?

820
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Yeah, that's praying, that's asking the man in white to show up.

821
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Yes, and that's what I'm praying for Jordan Peterson.

822
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000
I think that's the only way he's going to really get it.

823
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000
It may be.

824
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
I think he's very near the kingdom.

825
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
You know, Joe Rogan's very near the kingdom.

826
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000
There was a time when Russell Brand was in the same spot.

827
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000
He was exploring.

828
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000
And now look at him.

829
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Now look at him.

830
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000
He's on fire.

831
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000
Adam Curry as well.

832
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,000
It's these highly intelligent that overthink everything.

833
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000
Yeah, super thinkers.

834
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,000
And yet, boy, when they finally step over the line, they become warriors for

835
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Jesus.

836
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000
And it's the real thing.

837
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000
The real deal.

838
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,000
And they're going to go faster and stronger than we could ever go because I don't

839
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
know, it's just amazing.

840
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000
I think we all have our callings, our lanes that we're called to run in, and we

841
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,000
run well in our lane and we're faithful with what God gave us.

842
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000
So it's not really farther, stronger, longer.

843
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000
It's none of that.

844
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000
It's more you being faithful to the call of God in your life.

845
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000
It may be very different than a Russell Brand or a Jordan Peterson.

846
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,000
But God's doing something amazing among people that we would call influencers,

847
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000
people who are famous, people, even celebrities and athletes.

848
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000
And we're seeing that happen a lot across the world.

849
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000
That's exciting.

850
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
But He's doing it grassroots as well.

851
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
I mean, on college campuses and all over the world.

852
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,000
God is moving.

853
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:13,000
We had 38 people stand up on Sunday after an altar call that Pastor Brian gave of

854
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,000
people that want to be totally immersed in God, like give it all.

855
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000
38 people stood up, stood up in church.

856
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Adults.

857
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
We're not talking children.

858
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
There were no children in the sanctuary.

859
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,000
It was all older adults that are saying, you know what, I'm ready to just step in

860
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
all the way.

861
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000
And that was huge.

862
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000
To me, we have revival.

863
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
We already have it.

864
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000
It's not coming.

865
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
It's here.

866
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000
It's here.

867
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000
And I think it's happening all across the globe.

868
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
And we just need to open up our eyes and see it.

869
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,000
There it is.

870
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000
It's for those who have, Jesus would use this phrase, for those who have ears to hear.

871
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,000
But there's also those who have eyes to see and then a heart to know.

872
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,000
I mean, it's so important that we live our lives with eyes wide open, ears wide open,

873
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,000
our spirit wide open so that we can recognize the activity of God, the movement of God,

874
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
and then join Him in His work.

875
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,000
And it's a simple principle, obviously, from the study experiencing God by Henry Blackaby.

876
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Rest in peace.

877
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,000
But Henry Blackaby wrote the study and the premise of it was you look to see where God

878
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000
is working.

879
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,000
When you recognize it's at His activity, it's His invitation to join Him in His work.

880
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Which is why I see our church growing because we're not only preaching the gospel on Sundays.

881
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,000
We not only have a freedom in Christ ministry that's going on Tuesday nights.

882
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000
We have a discipleship on Wednesdays.

883
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,000
And our discipleship program on Wednesday nights is so strong.

884
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,000
It is like, I was just talking to Wendy Hearn about it and she said, you know, when you're

885
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,000
a realtor, you take realtor classes, but then when you want to go deeper, you take GRI classes.

886
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000
She said, it's like taking a GRI classes.

887
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000
And it's really in depth and it's intense.

888
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
And she said, that's what this is.

889
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
And she said, it is phenomenal.

890
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,000
And what we're seeing is the people that are going to that, their eyes are being open,

891
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:22,000
their hearts are being open, and their ears are open to hear and know how to take this

892
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:28,000
life that God has given us and take it out there beyond the walls of the church, beyond

893
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
the walls of your house and live it out.

894
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000
We don't have a lot of time.

895
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:42,000
I mean, we're 62 years old and, you know, they say if you get to 72, you're doing pretty well.

896
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
I mean, that's kind of, I mean, think about it.

897
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000
The older we get, the more that are dropping around us that are our age.

898
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,000
I've got several friends that have been through strokes and heart attacks recently.

899
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,000
And boys, they came very close to the brink of death, my age and younger.

900
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,000
And so that's why it's really important to walk this, our faith out.

901
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
That's what faith is.

902
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Faith without works is dead.

903
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
And we have to walk it out.

904
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000
It doesn't mean that we're doing works to get saved.

905
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000
We're already saved.

906
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,000
We're doing works out of pleasure because we want the pleasure of God.

907
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:23,000
I also like and this is something my coaches would say, that is run through the tape.

908
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Finish the race strong.

909
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Don't come up short.

910
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Don't pull up short.

911
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000
Finish strong.

912
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
And I feel like that's where we're at.

913
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000
We're in our in-game kick, whatever.

914
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,000
It could be another 20, 30 years, but it is still in the back half of our life.

915
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000
So I want to run through the tape, finish strong.

916
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000
I want to take as many people to heaven with me as I can.

917
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
That's what I live for.

918
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,000
Because God doesn't want to come back until everybody has called on his name.

919
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000
And that's not going to happen, but they will.

920
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,000
When he does come back, everyone will know.

921
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000
And when he comes back, it'll be on his terms, his timing.

922
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,000
We can do our best to interpret what that looks like through the scripture.

923
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
But at the end of the day, it's on him.

924
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,000
But in the meantime, we have lots of work to do.

925
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Yes, we do.

926
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Beautiful. Beautiful.

927
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,000
Before we go, I want you to talk about Hello Fred.

928
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Oh, wonderful.

929
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
What does Fred stand for?

930
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000
One of my favorite topics right now.

931
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000
And what does Fred stand for?

932
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:25,000
So Hello Fred is part of an embed tool that you can get on your computer, your phone,

933
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000
your tablet called the Godcaster.

934
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Adam Curry and a team of two other, one a developer, another one who owns a company,

935
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,000
they've gotten together and they have developed this amazing, amazing,

936
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
I guess you could call it a widget.

937
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000
You can drop it in on your web page.

938
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
You can just go to the website.

939
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Hellofred.com.

940
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000
No, HelloFred.fm.

941
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
And you can get the sample there.

942
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,000
And Hello Fred is Hello Fredericksburg.

943
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Fredericksburg, Texas.

944
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000
And what they have done is they've created an outlet and an opportunity,

945
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000
an on-ramp, I would call it, so that any church or organization

946
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,000
can literally have their own 24-7 radio station.

947
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,000
But instead of broadcasting off of a tower over the airwaves,

948
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
it broadcasts over the internet.

949
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
It sounds phenomenal.

950
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000
It works phenomenally.

951
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000
It's an amazing thing to look into.

952
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
And so if you're a church, if you're a pastor, you're part of a church

953
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,000
and you're listening to this podcast, check out Hello Fred.

954
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Go HelloFred.fm.

955
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Pull that up and you'll see just the one we've developed to show everybody.

956
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:42,000
You can go to our website at bridgefbg.com, bridgefbg.com.

957
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Scroll down about halfway and you'll see the Godcaster there.

958
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,000
You can click on Hello Fred, which is Hello Fredericksburg.

959
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000
It's local.

960
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
We have local news.

961
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
We have local, this is what's happening in our city council.

962
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:58,000
This is what's happening in the Market Plot, the park.

963
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
Things are going on in our church.

964
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000
We run our announcement reel and then we play music 24-7,

965
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Christian music on ours.

966
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Check it out again, bridgefbg.com, and check out the Godcaster.

967
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Let it blast through your house.

968
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,000
It's amazing.

969
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
What I love about it, I just pulled it up, HelloFred.fm,

970
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,000
and it's got a widget that says Hello Fred.

971
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,000
You click on that and you have 24-hour music.

972
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000
It's all worship music.

973
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,000
Then it has your devotions are kind of spread throughout.

974
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Yeah, the daily grind.

975
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Yeah, which is great.

976
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Some announcements as to what's going on in Fred,

977
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,000
like December 7th, there's a big Christmas event

978
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000
that's put on that you're part of, Adam Curry is part of,

979
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Trey Blocker started it.

980
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000
It gives you the announcements of what's happening in your community.

981
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
We're the guinea pig, I guess.

982
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
We're the tester, the beta tester.

983
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Any community can do this or any church can do this.

984
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,000
On our church, we have certain podcasts on there that we listen to

985
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,000
that are informing us as we preach or as we speak or whatever.

986
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,000
The one from Hello Fred is for Fredericksburg,

987
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,000
but I notice he's got Focus on the Family with Jim Daly.

988
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,000
He's got a Marriage podcast with Jim Daly on here.

989
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,000
He's got the American Campfire Revival with Kirk Cameron, his podcast.

990
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,000
He's got our church on here, our website.

991
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
He's got your podcast with...

992
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
You must be looking at HelloFred.com.

993
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000
I am,.fm.

994
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000
.fm, I know.

995
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,000
I'm looking at your interview podcast with Craig Weinberg,

996
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Our Living Up in the Down World, Curry and the Keeper,

997
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000
and this is for Fredericksburg.

998
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Love that.

999
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
So anybody who has something that obviously has the values,

1000
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
godly values, he would put on here.

1001
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
And I love it.

1002
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000
It's great.

1003
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Oh, this is cool.

1004
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
He's made it very cost effective for people to have.

1005
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Oh man, for an organization.

1006
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Oh, it's fantastic.

1007
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000
We don't listen to any other radio or anything anymore

1008
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,000
because Hello Fred is 24-7 music.

1009
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,000
And if we want to listen to a podcast, we can click on it.

1010
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
And we have a say so in the music that's on there.

1011
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,000
That's the beauty of it.

1012
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,000
You can customize it for your own church, your own organization.

1013
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,000
So if your church only wants hymns or gospel oriented type music,

1014
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,000
you can do that.

1015
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,000
You can build that out.

1016
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
We prefer, we like it all.

1017
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Yeah.

1018
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Ours is much more upbeat, contemporary.

1019
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000
We have a few things from the 80s and 90s and early 2000s,

1020
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,000
but I'd say 80% of it is more current.

1021
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,000
And so it's very cool, very uplifting.

1022
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
The whole point is to help people live up in a down world.

1023
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Not as our podcast, but just literally that.

1024
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
We want to help people live up.

1025
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000
And this gives you a shot in the arm.

1026
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,000
I keep it going in my car.

1027
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,000
We've got it going at the house.

1028
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,000
We have Sonos at the house and we've got it going over our Sonos.

1029
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,000
24-7.

1030
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,000
It's going right now while we're here.

1031
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Well, not while we're sleeping, obviously.

1032
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
No, but right now while we're here at the office.

1033
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,000
So anyway, check it out again, hellofred.fm.

1034
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,000
So hey, thanks for joining us today.

1035
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
We do have two thank yous.

1036
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Right. I'm not through.

1037
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Oh, okay. Sorry.

1038
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000
I just want to make sure.

1039
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,000
I'm not done.

1040
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Okay.

1041
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000
I was just saying thank you everybody for listening to us.

1042
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,000
And a couple of other things is go to livingupinadownworld.com.

1043
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000
That's our website that has all of our podcasts on there.

1044
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:28,000
And you can go back and look at all the blogs under the blog tab.

1045
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,000
It's the Daily Grind short Devo's just to help you along with your day

1046
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000
covering every topic imaginable.

1047
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
And those are all archived on there.

1048
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,000
And then you can always leave us a note.

1049
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,000
You can write us a note.

1050
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,000
You can ask us questions.

1051
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
You can leave a review.

1052
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,000
And you can also subscribe so that you get an email just letting you know

1053
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,000
when the next podcast is coming out or if it already has.

1054
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,000
So be sure and do that.

1055
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000
So we do have a couple of people to thank here.

1056
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
I've actually got it pulled up, babe.

1057
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Randy Black, I want to say thank you for giving to us

1058
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
and sewing Satoshi's into us.

1059
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000
He gave us some boostograms.

1060
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,000
And then also Sir Bia's Grace, sending and helping.

1061
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,000
But we also have some others that have donated online through PayPal

1062
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,000
on our website.

1063
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Yes, Trey Blocker donated.

1064
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Big thanks to Trey.

1065
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
James Baring's every little bit.

1066
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Thanks, James.

1067
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000
You're a blessing to us.

1068
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000
And then Nancy.

1069
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,000
I'm looking to see what hers is.

1070
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Hold on.

1071
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Hers is a strap.

1072
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
It's Nancy.

1073
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,000
It's something I have to look at.

1074
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,000
I don't know who she is, but...

1075
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,000
But thank you, Nancy.

1076
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,000
Her name is Nancy, obviously.

1077
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000
It is.

1078
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,000
And she, what I love, is giving us yearly.

1079
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
She pays a yearly subscription.

1080
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000
That's beautiful.

1081
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
It's just beautiful.

1082
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,000
It really is.

1083
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000
That's awesome.

1084
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000
It's just beautiful.

1085
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Now, Eric P.P., I don't think I gave him a shout out from the week before,

1086
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,000
but just so appreciate you giving us the boost.

1087
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,000
We just really, really appreciate it.

1088
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000
We have so many amazing people that we've gotten to connect with.

1089
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Of course, we got to go to a Noagin to meet up a few weeks ago.

1090
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Just so neat meeting people, and they already know who we are,

1091
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,000
which is just mind-bending.

1092
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000
They talk about us on their show.

1093
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,000
We appreciate that, Adam and Tina Curry.

1094
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Check out Curry and the Keeper as well.

1095
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000
So, hey, God bless you.

1096
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,000
We love you.

1097
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
We were trying to land 30 minutes, and we didn't.

1098
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,000
We hit 46.

1099
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,000
Oh, wow.

1100
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,000
You're on fire.

1101
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,000
I am.

1102
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Well, it's our anniversary.

1103
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,000
I know.

1104
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,000
It's a great day.

1105
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,000
I have to honor you.

1106
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,000
So, you're over what happened 32 years ago?

1107
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000
I think I'll stick with you.

1108
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Okay, all right, so I'll be okay.

1109
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,000
I'm all right for another 32.

1110
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000
You good for another three decades?

1111
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Three decades?

1112
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Three decades.

1113
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,000
I know it's crazy.

1114
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Wow.

1115
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,000
I can't imagine.

1116
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,000
All right, baby girl.

1117
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
We are out of here.

1118
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Keep living up in the down world.

1119
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,000
We love you guys, and it's just a pleasure to do this.

1120
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,000
And have an amazing week on purpose.

1121
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,000
We love you.

1122
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:19,000
We love you.

1123
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Thank you.