1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,720 This is Jimmy and Annette and Mr. Shavey is joining us here today from our home studio 2 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,160 in the big city of Fredericksburg, Texas. How are you doing over there, gorgeous? 3 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:38,400 I'm doing great. Did we get it on this time? We got it on this time. Okay. We're having 4 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,700 podcast problems. What is it, third time's a charm maybe? Yeah, we're using our mobile unit and 5 00:00:42,700 --> 00:00:49,540 sometimes it doesn't like playing with garage band very well. So yeah, I'm just not liking that. My 6 00:00:49,540 --> 00:00:57,760 executive producer, who's very well paid by the way, not, he said that he's got an idea. There's 7 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,960 some things you can do like different programs. We're going to find another program to make this 8 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:09,240 work. But anyway, this is Sunday afternoon. So we've had one of those weeks where we have literally 9 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,360 not been able to get together to do the podcast. That's true. Well, we had a staff retreat all 10 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,400 week and so- And that was amazing by the way. And we, I wouldn't want to take time away from 11 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:25,440 their precious time to do a podcast just because their time is valuable and they went away, most 12 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:32,080 of them without their significant others and so, and their children. And so we needed to concentrate 13 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,120 on our staff this week. And what do we do on a staff retreat? Because a lot of our church members 14 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:42,000 will be listening to this and they'd probably like to know what we do. Well, we pray, we worship 15 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:50,280 together Monday night and Tuesday night, full on worship. Absolutely amazing. We plan the rest of 16 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:58,960 2024. We planned all of 2025, which it's always fluid because anything could change. Life happens 17 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:06,360 that the world changes and we can make changes, but we like to plan in advance those things that 18 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:13,600 are really important like our membership classes, our baptism classes, our men and women's luncheons 19 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:19,160 and events and just different things. Those are the things we plan. We don't plan our sermon series, 20 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:26,320 so to speak, but we do plan out all the activities and events that we do throughout the year. Get 21 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:32,200 them ready on the calendar so we can look because a lot of times people say, hey, can y'all do this 22 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,480 or will y'all do that? And we can look on our calendar because we've calendared for a year and 23 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:44,720 say, well, yeah, this week we have some time, but it's always- There's so many things that go into 24 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:52,960 running a large facility with 700 plus people. So someone's always wanting to do something, 25 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,160 to have something they need or their ministry needs the building or whatever. So yeah, there's 26 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:05,120 a lot to it. The good thing is we took our staff to a movie and we saw God's Not Dead and God We 27 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Trust. Tell me how you liked that. Oh my gosh. I thought you took them to that movie to announce 28 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,840 you were running for Senate, but you would still pastor the church. That's what they were saying. 29 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:26,520 Are you running for office? Because that's the whole premise is a pastor running for Senate that 30 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,520 is literally pastoring a church. But he was saying all the things you've been saying in the pulpit. 31 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:38,080 So if I didn't know better, I would be questioning that as a staff member, but I know you're not, 32 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,960 at least unless God told you to and then you would. And that's what happened with this pastor. 33 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:52,920 He had no aspirations to get in politics, but when he was asked and he prayed, he felt like the Lord 34 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,440 said yes. And we don't want to tell the story. By the way, I have no aspirations either to get 35 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,120 into politics. People keep asking me, but I'm like, it would definitely be a lightning bolt. 36 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Oh, it would be. And God's prone to do things like that with me to let me know. 37 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:16,440 I know. I'm prepared, whatever he wants to do. But we do need pastors and Christians to be in 38 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:22,360 politics. I mean, we do need them to be in government because we can't trust the government to 39 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,720 take care of us in the way that God wants to be. 40 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,280 Are you telling me you're distrustful of our government? Our American government? 41 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:30,400 Very much so. 42 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,040 Why pray? Tell us. 43 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,960 Look at where we are today. 44 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:42,320 Yeah, we're in trouble here in America. I know we have a lot of listeners from all over the world, 45 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,320 actually. When I check our stats, I mean, literally all over the world. And we want to say hi to 46 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:53,000 wherever you are in the world. And we hope that we can be an encouragement to you. And we know we 47 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:59,080 talk a lot about America because that's what's in our face right now as a nation where we've been 48 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,840 known as the center of freedom, the bastion of freedom. 49 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:05,520 We're losing our freedoms. 50 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,760 All of a sudden, we're having to go, wait a minute, government has gotten too big. They're 51 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,600 ignoring the Constitution of the United States, which was ratified and what was signed in 1776, 52 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:22,640 ratified a few years later. But it's being largely ignored, discarded. And there's a lot of 53 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:28,200 people like us that are saying, no, no, no, that's not how this works. So we're doing what we can to 54 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:34,440 let our voices be heard. We let our voices be heard, first of all, with our votes. We go to, do 55 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,880 you know, I've mentioned this, but this is important and people need to hear this over and 56 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:47,400 over. 40 million Christians in 2020 stayed home and didn't vote. Didn't go to the polls. And I 57 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:53,080 dare say, I bet some of those 40 million people have big opinions about what's going on right now. 58 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,840 I bet they do too. 59 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:56,200 And they have only to look at themselves. 60 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:04,760 To their credit, not everyone understands the voting process and what their vote means. Most 61 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:11,160 people don't think their vote counts, but that's where you get educated and you find out what it 62 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,720 really does mean. And that you're not just voting for that one person, you're voting for a whole 63 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:25,000 platform. And it's bigger than what we think. And I think we need to go back and find out from 64 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,240 history what it really means to vote. 65 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:33,160 I agree. And that, you know, it's on us. The onus is on us. Like I'm looking over at my bookshelf 66 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:39,880 over there and I've got so many books on, you know, America, Encyclopedia of America, you know, 67 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:46,520 all these books, The American Story by David and Tim Barton. I mean, I've got all these books 68 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:53,720 about our country, Paul Johnson, history, American people. So we've got, it's on us to study. It's 69 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:59,240 just like with scripture. I can't expect a pastor to spoon feed me the word of God. And he's there 70 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,680 to charge me. He's there to encourage me and, you know, peel back the layers and educate, 71 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,080 but he's not my sole source of food, so to speak. 72 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,160 What's interesting, because I was talking to him, I was talking to my daughter today and her pastor 73 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:21,080 was talking about discipleship and how, and prayer and that they're not taking prayer out just because 74 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,080 they're adding more things to their calendar because that is so needed. But one of the things 75 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:31,000 she said that I thought was interesting, and he said most pastors get in the word only to preach 76 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:37,960 their sermon. They don't even know what the word says. And he wants to add some things into their 77 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:47,160 congregation, their weekly events, like to teach people about repentance, forgiveness, 78 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:54,760 freedom, ministry, deliverance. And he's like, most pastors don't go there, or the ones that he knows, 79 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,320 because they just want to, they don't even know the word themselves, so they just kind of 80 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:08,600 do the least you can. What is so interesting to me is we come off a sabbatical and we work harder. 81 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:16,360 We're working smarter. We are working smarter, but we're actually, it energized us to realize, 82 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:23,960 for one, we don't have that much time here. Whether Jesus comes back, we pass because of age or 83 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:32,760 whatever. We don't have a lot of time. And while we have cognitive ability, we need to study the 84 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:40,600 word and we need to do what it says. And we need to learn as much as we can. And I think you can 85 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:48,200 become complacent. I think some people who may have taken sabbaticals, maybe in the past, 86 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:54,920 I don't have anybody in my mind, but they might take it and think, okay, well, now I can kind of 87 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:01,160 rest into my retirement or whatever. We did not have that attitude. I think we did for like five 88 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,480 minutes. Yeah. I think that would have been short-lived because I did have this thought of, 89 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:12,920 you know, I like this rest. I like feeling rested. And so, you know, when we come out of the, 90 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,640 I did have that thought at one point that, so now we're just going to kind of go into, 91 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,200 you know, instead of overdrive, we're going to gear down to fourth gear. 92 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,680 Gear down. That didn't happen. And kind of set it. 93 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:28,840 We went into overdrive plus. And yet I'm not upset about it. I have the energy. 94 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,640 No, I'm excited about it. I have the energy for it, but I also have the excitement of 95 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:40,280 being in the last days and we get to participate in this. So we need to gear up for what's 96 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:46,200 going to happen. And we need to be, we need to be worded up and we need our people to be worded up 97 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,080 so that they can handle what's going to happen. I keep hearing coach Rivera yelling through 98 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,960 my ear from high school football, run through the tape, run through the tape, finish strong, 99 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,640 kick, kick, kick. I mean, I'm not going to say everything you said because it wouldn't be 100 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:05,800 repeatable over a Christian radio podcast. But I mean, he would just tell me to get your rear 101 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:11,480 and gear. I mean, don't quit before the finish line. And I'm so thankful for coach Rivera. 102 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,200 I am thankful that he, I can hear him in my head, coach Thompson as well, coach Osborne, 103 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:22,520 I can list them all. Coach Easterling. I mean, I hear them in my ear saying, don't quit, don't 104 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:29,400 come up short, finish strong. And now I hear Steve Maxwell saying that, you know, he's one of the 105 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,760 founders of citizens for defending freedom. Great man of God. He's become a good friend. 106 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,360 He's in Florida, by the way, and trying to get out from under all the damage and wreckage in 107 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Polk County where he lives. But his church and his pastor, Jack Hillegos is a, he's the mayor of 108 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,560 the city there and the pastor. And God is doing amazing things with them. God's doing amazing 109 00:10:53,560 --> 00:11:00,200 things in our midst right now as we continue to speak truth into power centers. We're getting the 110 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,880 truth out there and what we're doing is we're activating our people to get involved and to get 111 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:11,800 engaged in culture. You know, a lot of Christians think that our job is to just be nice, you know, 112 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:18,360 because, you know, Jesus was nice, right? So it's our job to just be nice, play nice, act nice. 113 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Don't ruffle anybody's feathers. And I'm going, that's not the Jesus I see in Scripture. No, 114 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,960 that's not the Jesus that's in Scripture. I want to share that thing I shared with you. He was 115 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:34,360 loving and he loved children. Oh, absolutely. He reprimanded adults quite a bit, especially his 116 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:43,960 disciples. Religious adults. Yeah. But he was strong. He was a warrior. Exactly. But not the 117 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:50,760 kind that people think or thought would come. Right. Right. So let me share this with you. 118 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,800 There's two views here. This was posted by Lance Wallnau and I love Lance Wallnau. 119 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:02,440 Okay. That's why I said this. I wanted that and I actually talked to someone about that today, 120 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,440 but I couldn't remember where it came from. So I'm glad you're saying that this is real. 121 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Put this in the newsletter. Yeah, this is power. I think you should put it in the newsletter. 122 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:15,880 So two views on Jesus. One is the biblical Jesus, what the Bible speaks of and how the Bible 123 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:22,440 describes Jesus and the modern Jesus. So the modern, how we've made Jesus in our own image, 124 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,640 kind of. Yeah. And so this is a comparison. Of today. Really, the modern Jesus, the one of today 125 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:36,120 that most churches believe in. So this is a comparison. I love this. So this is a comparison, 126 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:43,880 modern Jesus and biblical Jesus. So the modern Jesus preaches only on love. And the biblical Jesus 127 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:49,080 preaches God's righteousness. In other words, right standing before God, pleasing God, 128 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:54,120 living to honor him. Lordship. And then the modern Jesus gives you health and wealth. 129 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:01,160 And the biblical Jesus gives salvation, hope, peace, and joy. There are some people that come 130 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:06,920 to Jesus for what he can give them. Instead of what they can give to him. He's like a genie in 131 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,440 a bottle. You know, you're a genie in the lamp. Aladdin's a lamp. You rub the lamp and then you 132 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,480 get your wish. And some people treat Jesus like that. So here's another one. Another modern, 133 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:25,160 modern Jesus never says anything negative. He's just nice. He just loves everybody and tolerates 134 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:31,400 every behavior, every sin, because he redeemed the sin so he can tolerate it. 135 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Wow. Well, that's what modern Jesus believers feel. 136 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:44,680 And biblical Jesus warns of sin, judgment, and hell. Jesus is saying there's something coming 137 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:53,080 and there will be a judgment and there will be a dividing, a separation of the sheep and the goats. 138 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:59,240 He tells a parable in Matthew 25 about this. And he's saying this is serious. And while he is all 139 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:05,560 about love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, that's a fruit of the spirit. He's also about justice, 140 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:14,200 righteousness, truth. And I mean, we got to be careful that we don't try to make Jesus into what 141 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,480 we want him to be for us. It's like the scripture that says, well, did I prophesy in your name? 142 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Lord, Lord, did I prophesy in your name? Didn't I cast demons out in your name? And he's like, 143 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:32,440 he says, depart from me. I never knew you because it was all about what they could do all in the 144 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:39,720 name of Jesus instead of what he does. And they, and they didn't allow him to be Lord of their life 145 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,520 and in relationship with them. It was them using Jesus. Think about it. 146 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,760 How, why do you think that we have become, I mean, let's just chat real quick about this 147 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:55,240 and riff on it a little bit. Why do you think we have made Jesus all about me? It's all about me. 148 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Because our culture is all about me. So what we do is we take what's going on in our culture 149 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,480 and as a template, we try to put Jesus over there and make him fit. 150 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:11,000 Instead of us fitting into his kingdom, we're making him fit into ours. 151 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Hey, but hey, I mean, doesn't Jesus want us to be happy? Doesn't he want us to just have everything? 152 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,480 It doesn't, I mean, it's just sounds like you're just talking about a meanie, 153 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,360 cosmic kill joy. I mean, it just sounds like you're saying that we can't live the life we want. 154 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,200 You sound like a hippie talking. That's what a hippie would say. I know. 155 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,640 But I'm saying right now we have a culture that wants Jesus in their image. They want Jesus to be 156 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:43,080 nice and to be kind and gentle and never call out their sin and just affirm them constantly. 157 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,480 Just affirmation. Because maybe they got persecuted by someone or someone, 158 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,600 cut them off on Facebook or unfriended them or whatever. And now they're like, oh wait, 159 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,640 I've got to, I need to acquiesce to what they believe so that I will have friends. And yet 160 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:03,240 we forget that our ultimate choice is to please God, not other people. 161 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Amen, sister. So I said this today in church. I said, I learned the hard way and it's taken 162 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,960 me some time to get there. That I need to quit worrying about what people think about me. I need 163 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:23,480 to speak the truth of God's word in love and because of love into power centers and not worry 164 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,400 about what somebody else thinks about me. And that's a hard thing to do as humans because 165 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,640 it's innate in us to want to please. It used to be. It's getting to a point now 166 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,080 where I expect that any room I walk in, there's going to be somebody there. 167 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,040 You said that in the service today. I know. It's true. 168 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Keep going. I like that. There's still a couple more. Jesus loved and accepted by the world. 169 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Oh, everybody loves Jesus because Jesus is love. And yet he's really not accepted by the world at 170 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:55,800 all. Biblical Jesus hated and despised by the world. This is where we have a hard time with Jesus 171 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:03,000 because we want Jesus in us to be likable. We want Jesus in us to be so kind, so tolerant, 172 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:09,000 so accepting and affirming that he doesn't make us look bad in front of our friends and our family. 173 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,120 When in fact, Jesus is calling us to take a stand, he's calling us to stand up in a down world, 174 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:20,520 to live up in a down world, to live above the line when the world decides we're going to bow down. 175 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Yeah. We're going to bow down to idols. We're going to bow down to Nebuchadnezzar. 176 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,120 When they all bowed down to the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar had built, 177 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:37,320 Shadrach, Bishak, Nabednego stood. They didn't stand up. They just stood. They didn't bow down. 178 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:43,000 And what's happening now, I see this scenario all over the place where everyone is bowing down. 179 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,880 You posted something on social media the other day and I got blasted for it because I posted it. 180 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:55,400 Well, because it's Jimmy and Annette. Prove it on Facebook. But it was benign. You should read it. 181 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:01,880 Read it. It was nothing. And yet you got blasted by Christians. This is what gets to me. 182 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,920 This is what's frustrating. I can see people that are not Christians or pre-Christians, 183 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:15,720 that Christians are just bashing you and me over this thing. I should have put my name on it. 184 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,880 Okay. I'll read it. If Christians are not engaged with politics, 185 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,880 decisions will be made by people who think God is irrelevant and the truth of God's word does not 186 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,960 exist. Tell me what is controversial about that. Christians who never compliment me, 187 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,560 never affirm anything, but they show up to criticize. They don't show up to help. 188 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,360 They don't show up to encourage. They don't show up to say, I'm with you, brother. They show up to 189 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:48,440 criticize. And all I said was we need to engage in politics so that they don't get 190 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:54,360 into politics so that we have the right people making the decisions for us and not people that 191 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:59,320 are ungodly making, I cannot believe people bash you over that. And the reason they've got the 192 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:06,600 freedom to post this junk in terms of cutting other people down and being brave behind a keyboard, 193 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:12,040 see how brave they are to my face standing toe to toe, but they're brave behind a keyboard because 194 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,560 there's no accountability. And yet it's the freedom that was paid for by the blood of our 195 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:23,640 forefathers and soldiers and women and children and first responders who've all gone before us 196 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:30,520 and pastors who've laid their lives down, given up their lives, their fortunes and their sacred 197 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,120 honor on behalf so that the next generation can walk in freedom. And these Christians that are 198 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:42,440 coming after you and me for stating something so benign. That is extremely benign. Are you kidding 199 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,920 me? I mean, there are some things I want to post that I know you will get bashed because people 200 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:55,000 think you post it, even though I did. This was benign. This was just like, what? Engaging in 201 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:03,560 politics, it could just mean voting too. But also we need to engage because we need Christians 202 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:08,440 in politics. And there are more pastors in politics now than they've ever been in history. 203 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:14,360 I'm hoping those people that bash are listening to this and they will understand. They won't. 204 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:20,840 Oh my gosh. They're so deceived. And they call themselves Christians. Well, I beg to differ. 205 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:27,720 I know. It's sad. You judge people by their fruit. And if you're going to bash on that, 206 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,360 I would say you might need to think about your relationship. 207 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:32,920 And remember, we leave out what we're full of. 208 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,920 Exactly. Whatever's on the inside comes out on the outside. And when it's unchecked and unguarded, 209 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:45,800 it'll come out through a keyboard. And it's like, wow, man, you know, you've never, you know, 210 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,640 there were several on there. I thought, gosh, you've never given me the time of day, but, 211 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,160 but when I post that you don't like, or it doesn't fit in your narrative, 212 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,360 and you're going to come out with guns blazing. Okay. That tells me exactly. You will know them 213 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:03,240 by their fruits. And the Bible says this in the proverbs, when you answer a fool, 214 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,160 you become a fool. And that's why I've refrained from responding to that. 215 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,560 That's good. Because I don't respond at all because they think it's you anyway. 216 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Ain't nobody got time for that. Oh my gosh. 217 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,080 So anyway, so yeah, I mean, that's something that we have to watch out. So here's the thing, 218 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,840 the decision I made and what prompted this part of this conversation was I've decided I'd rather be 219 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,080 respected than liked. And even if I'm not respected, I don't even, I don't even have to, 220 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:34,120 I don't even need that. The minute we need something from other people is the minute we 221 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:39,400 are vulnerable. And it's heartbreaking. What are you doing up there on your phone? 222 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,600 Our staff, we had some good news. Our staff is flipping out. It's hilarious. 223 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,320 You still have another one. There was still another modern. 224 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,360 Oh, oh, oh. Yeah. Finish that and then we'll say what our staff is flipping out about. 225 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:59,000 Modern Jesus serves your will, not God's will. So he's like the genie in the bottle. Like I said, 226 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,680 he's going to do exactly what I want him to do. And if he doesn't, then we're mad at him. 227 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,000 Yeah. Not, not us because you know. 228 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,840 How could, how could God do that to me? Yeah. 229 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,360 How could, oh, and God let that happen. Oh, really? Yeah. 230 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:15,400 You're going to tell God, yeah. Talk to Job about calling God out. See how that went for him. 231 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,120 Biblical Jesus. So, so modern Jesus serves your will, not God's will. Biblical Jesus 232 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:26,200 exalts God and the Father's will. That's the whole point is it's not about, 233 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,240 and I even said this today, it's not about, oh Lord, what is your will for my life? 234 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Okay. We put the emphasis on my life. 235 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Instead of the emphasis on what is your will, period. 236 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,160 Yeah. And the emphasis should be God. Yeah. What is your will? 237 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Period. Yeah. 238 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Question mark. So I ask you a question mark. Right. 239 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:49,560 Yeah. What is your will? And so I love that Biblical Jesus exalts God, the Father's will, 240 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:55,560 which means we have to stand toe to toe with culture while they're saying, you believe what? 241 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,840 You're saying if I'm gay, that I can't be a Christian. You're saying if I'm gay, 242 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,760 I can't have a relationship with another man. And I'm saying, I know I'm not saying it. The Bible 243 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,200 says it. Yeah. I'm just reading what the Bible says. 244 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,520 Don't argue with me. I'm not arguing. I'm not here to debate, but I am here to say, 245 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,680 this is what God's word says. Read Romans chapter one. It's very clear. 246 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,280 Very clear. Yeah. Read it in any translation. It's clear. 247 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:25,480 And so Biblical Jesus exalts God, the Father's will, which means we'll have to stand toe to toe 248 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,640 when somebody says, well, wait a minute, I got pregnant. So I'm going to go get an abortion 249 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,280 because I just don't have time for a baby. I just don't, it's just, I don't need that inconvenience 250 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:39,720 in my life. By the way, it's only fetal tissue anyway. It's just, it's just a clump of cells. 251 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Wow. And you know, it's not really a human. 252 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,440 I mean, when does a human become a human? Well, of course, when they can think and they have 253 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:52,200 cognitive ability. But, but if someone is in a car accident 254 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,640 and they're pregnant and it's manslaughter because someone hit them and they were both killed, 255 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,640 they are tried for two murders. The baby and the, so. 256 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Are you saying we have hypocritical laws? Oh my gosh. Do we ever. Can you believe that? 257 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,080 That doesn't make sense because they say the baby's not a real baby, but if the woman's pregnant, 258 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,440 then, then it's murdered two times because it's, it doesn't even make sense. 259 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:23,400 So, so let's, let's follow this, this logic train. So on Wednesday night, the Patriot academy with 260 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:29,000 Rick Green did a zoom for anybody that wanted to join and be a part of. Did you tell him we 261 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,680 watched that? No, I didn't have a chance to. We were all gacking so much today. We were 262 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:38,600 big time fellas. We were there for a long time after church, just hanging out. But Rick Green 263 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,720 hosted the Patrick Patriot Academy, hosted a new movie that just came out, a documentary called 264 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:53,160 The 1916 Project. And it's, it was put together by Seth Gruber and his group called the White Rose 265 00:24:53,160 --> 00:25:00,360 Resistance. And it is a pro-life group as opposed to exactly what it is, pro-death. Yeah. And so you 266 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:05,320 don't have pro in the middle. There's no pro-middle. There is no middle ground on this. You're either 267 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:12,840 pro-life or pro-death on this issue. But the reason, tell the reason why Planned Parenthood 268 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:23,720 got started. Well, it was with Margaret Sanger. And in the 1916, she started the first Planned 269 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:30,280 Parenthood in New York City or Chicago. New York City could not find doctors that would, 270 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:37,640 that would do abortions. So she, who was just a nurse, was she a nurse? I don't even know if 271 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:43,880 she was a nurse, but her and another person performed illegal abortions without training. 272 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:50,520 And they did it themselves. That, and the whole point was to get rid of a race. The whole point 273 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,960 was to get rid of the undesirable. The unfit. They called them the unfit. Those that could end 274 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:02,440 up in prison someday. Yeah, euthanasia. She was trying to impress Adolf Hitler, which by the way, 275 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,840 he was impressed. She was a radical communist. She was radicalized communist in America. 276 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,320 This blew my mind. Now, back in the early 1900s, there were communists in America. There was a 277 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:20,200 communist party in America. And so, but then there were the radicalized, you know, communist, and she 278 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,440 was a radicalized, kind of like Kamala Harris right now. Yeah. She's a radicalized communist. 279 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,920 Yes. Pure and simple. Go get the checklist. You can look it up online on perplexity. I, I mean, 280 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:39,320 you can find that and she checks every box. So that's, that's the world we live in right now, 281 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,600 where we are, you know, we look at the McCarthy era that we're fighting communism. Ronald Reagan, 282 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:51,240 one of, he ran his platform on, we're going to defeat communism. I mean, so. Which that movie, 283 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,280 we saw that movie this week too. And that was really good too. Yes. Communism has 284 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,880 not gone away. It's disguised now as socialism. It's a latter version, but it's still the same. 285 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,880 It's the modern version. It's the modern version. Because we're modern America. Socialism. We have 286 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,560 one more to go. So the last one on modern Jesus was modern Jesus hates to offend you or others. 287 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:18,120 Oh. Because he's so nice. Yes. He doesn't want to offend. No. Because he's Jesus. Yes. Okay. So 288 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,560 what's the biblical Jesus? He carries the lamb on his shoulder. Through the pasture. 289 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:28,760 Oh, you know, little posters. Biblical Jesus offends the world with the truth. This is why 290 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,160 the world hates us right now. The world hates us. Because they're speaking the truth. They don't 291 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,360 want to hear the truth. No, they don't. They're angry. Because they're deceived. And it's demonic. 292 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:42,840 They're deceived. They're deceiving. They're deceiving. We're a little fiery today aren't we? 293 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Well, I don't know why. Well, we had church today and we were pretty excited. Well, and we just got 294 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:56,200 some really good news. And we just shared it with our staff. We have had a building project. We bought 295 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:02,280 our building a few years ago from another church organization that gave us. They didn't give us 296 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:08,360 the building. He gave us the titles, but we had to buy the building. And we got a loan, which was 297 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:13,800 better than- During COVID. During COVID, which the interest rate was like three and a half percent. 298 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:21,640 And they were wanting to charge a six percent rent, at least to own this company. And we chose to 299 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:29,400 just buy it outright. And we had some money to be able to do that. We, the last two or three years, 300 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:36,440 the end of year offering, we've asked people to give towards paying that loan off. And that loan 301 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:45,400 started out well over a million dollars. We paid it off today. I know. We get to burn the notes. 302 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:51,400 Someone called us and we've had several donors come up today. We put a challenge to the church 303 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:58,120 and said, we really want to pay this off by October 31st. And we told them how much we owed. And 304 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:04,760 several people gave today, but then someone texted us and said, my bankers contacting you tomorrow. 305 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,560 We're zeroing it out. And we trust them because they've paid for things before. 306 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,880 And the beauty of it is, is that it isn't any one person giving this massive amount. 307 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:20,200 No, because we've had a lot of people. I mean, we literally got it down to 109,000 this week, 308 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,320 which is crazy. So we paid off $1.6 million in five years. 309 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:32,360 Four years. Four years. Four. It was April of 2020 was our, and when we started the loan, 310 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:38,520 our first payment was in July. Jimmy. Yeah. This is September. Oh wow. So a couple of months. 311 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:44,760 Yeah. Who does that? I wish I could pay my house in four years. And here's the thing. It's a God 312 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,880 thing. It is. Cause we want to be out of debt. Cause we have other projects we need to do, 313 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,920 but we want to pay cash for everything. It's God working through his people. 314 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:58,760 Yes. Yes. Because we have a very, we have an amazing church. By the way, if you don't know, 315 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,440 if you just joined us and you're going, these people are crazy. But really the bottom line is 316 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,000 we're on fire for Jesus, but we also love our country and we want to see it return to its 317 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,960 original intent. What the founding fathers intended, who were by the way, Christians, 318 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,240 not deists and atheists. Give me a break. That's revisionist. Anyway, we are pastors of Bridge 319 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:26,680 Church, Fredericksburg, Texas. So check us out. Go to bridgefbg.com. You can find our messages, 320 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:33,880 sermons, music, worship, resources, everything's on there. But then you can also jump over to 321 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:40,440 livingupinadownworld.com. And we would love to hear from you. I write a daily blog that goes on 322 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,240 there every day. It's a daily blog. We call our daily devotional. I call it the morning grind. 323 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,040 The morning grind. Cause you're drinking coffee. Cause I'm down. In fact, I've got some coffee 324 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,960 right here. A little black raffle. You've got coffee here and something, an adult beverage. 325 00:30:53,960 --> 00:31:01,560 Something. We're celebrating. So we are having some champagne, which we don't do that often, 326 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,800 but we're like, oh my gosh. I mean, it's like burning the note. We get to, we get to tell the 327 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:13,000 church next Sunday, we've burned the note. Now what a lot of people won't know listening to this is 328 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,760 I used to work for Dave Ramsey. So when I worked for Dave Ramsey, people would do their debt free 329 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:24,920 screams. And I worked there at financial FPU Plaza. Well, our board, one of our board members 330 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,360 is on there. Can we do a debt free? He freaked out. Can we do it with Dave Ramsey? I don't know. 331 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,480 Maybe what I was thinking, I got an idea using our iPhone. I know I say we fly to Nashville. 332 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,640 Oh, there we go. Let's take 700 people to Nashville. No, not 700. No, I'm saying we take our 333 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:47,560 phone and on Sunday we announce this and then we do, we're debt free. A debt free scream through 334 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,760 our phone. I'll send it to Brian. I'll let him do what he wants with it. Okay. That would be fun. 335 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,320 So I worked for Dave Ramsey and when people would do their debt free screams, they would come to 336 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,760 Nashville, come to FPU Plaza where I worked. And you got to watch. All of us, the whole building, 337 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,920 I mean, 500 people. Would come out and cheer. We'd stand in the balconies and the stairs. We'd be 338 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,080 down on the floor with the people and they'd do their debt free scream on Dave's radio show. 339 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,360 And it was exciting. I remember thinking, wow, that would be nice to do a debt free scream. 340 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:26,280 And here we are. We get to say that we've paid off $1.6 million, paid off our church. 341 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,640 In four years. Four years. Glory to God. And I got to say, our people are amazing. 342 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,600 We have the most generous people. We really do. 343 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,960 We're an amazing church. Generous. And we're excited because we're turning that blessing 344 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,120 to bless ministries, especially at pregnancy resource centers. 345 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Missions. We gave double the amount of missions that we've ever given this year. 346 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,840 Also A21, which is rescue. Sex trafficking. 347 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,600 Children out of sex trafficking. That's something that's near and dear to our heart as well. So 348 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,640 we've been very blessed. So the Bible says that we are blessed in order to be a blessing. 349 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,920 And if you bless and pray for Jerusalem, you will be. 350 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,560 Absolutely. 351 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Blessed. And so. 352 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,920 Every Sunday we pray for Jerusalem, the peace of Jerusalem. 353 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,560 Jerusalem. 354 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Psalm 122 verse six. People don't like that. 355 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,360 They, they're not. 356 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Our people do. But there are people in this world that are so anti-Semitic. 357 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,160 Because they, they're deceived. 358 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,800 Yeah, it's awful. So anyway, we just want to say thank you, but go to livingupandadownworld.com 359 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,760 and leave us a note. Write us, you can easily write us an email. If you want to bless us, 360 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:38,840 we work on value for value. You know, we have day jobs. We do this out of the joy of our heart 361 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,880 and our life. But sometimes value for value. If what we're doing is giving you value, 362 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,800 you can show value to us by sending us a note and just saying thanks. Or you can send us 363 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,920 through PayPal on our website. Or if you're listening on a platform, 364 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:59,560 2.0 podcast platform, you can send us Satoshis. But, but we really love hearing from you. 365 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,760 You can leave us a review. We just, whatever it is, we just love the interaction. We are so 366 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,080 thankful. Do we have some people to thank? 367 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:13,320 We do. We did receive a PayPal from a donation from Steve Wise. 368 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:21,160 So thank you, Steve. He's given many times before. So I think he's on a monthly, but I can't, 369 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,880 I never know. It's kind of hard to tell on PayPal, but we want to thank you for that. 370 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,400 And then I know you've said you've received a lot of Satoshis this week as well. 371 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,000 We have. I mean, well, that was last week. Last week. 372 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,440 Huge. I'm actually trying to look right now. I'm doing CAPTCHA. I'm human. So I'm trying to 373 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,520 vlog into my Albie account. Oh my God. You're just going to take a little bit. 374 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,680 It's crazy. It does. Oh gosh. This is ridiculous. They're making me do all kinds of 375 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:50,360 acrobatics here. Well, we know Adam Curry. 376 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,480 We know Adam Curry. Man, Striper Boost. Boom. I mean, actually. 377 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,400 Because he missed that. Wait, no. 378 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,600 He did more than a Striper Boost. He did a massive boost. 379 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,800 He did. Let me just read this because it came in an email. 380 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,960 It's because he heard that he didn't give the week he was in Mexico. 381 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,520 Here's one from Tina. Oh, Tina gave. 382 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,240 Okay. So let me just say this. So Adam and Tina Curry are two of our very best friends on the 383 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:19,880 planet. They have a great podcast you need to check out called Curry and the Keeper. 384 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,560 And Annette made a comment about Tina not listening to the show. And so Tina sent us 385 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:33,400 a mini Striper Boost of 7,777 sats. And she says, a mini Striper Boost to remind Annette 386 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:39,080 that I listened to the show, sending lots of love to you two. And we love you too, Tina. 387 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560 We actually hung out with them, what? A couple of nights ago. 388 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:49,320 Oh gosh. Those stakes were amazing. And then from Adam Curry, man, this is a big boost. 389 00:35:49,320 --> 00:36:00,440 100,777 sats. He said, boosting for blankets and a blessing to put living up in a down world in the 390 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,360 top 10. What's blankets mean? So the blankets are the blankets I have around our mini. 391 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,840 Oh, okay. So what we do when we're not at the church, like today, it's Sunday afternoon. 392 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,120 Our office is soundproof, but this is not. This is not. So this looks like a tent city. It looks 393 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,280 ghetto. I look like I'm in my 12 year old tent at home. 394 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,800 It looks very ghetto right now. I have blankets all around the office, hanging on my guitars, 395 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,160 over the doors. And it's just our way to soundproof the place. Sound decent. 396 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,280 Because I'm going to be home all next week, you're going to be in the office. So we're not going to 397 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:38,040 be together next week. We'll be able to do it in the office next week. But anyway, we just absolutely 398 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,320 appreciate you and adore you. And thank you. Thank you for listening. I know today has been 399 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,880 a ramble, man. It's been a lot. Because there's just things that are heavy on our heart because 400 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,720 in this election season, the world's very spun up right now. And we want people to be able to find 401 00:36:53,720 --> 00:37:01,720 peace and hope in Christ and not live the spun up life. Because it's not worth it. It's not worth it. 402 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,080 There's a kingdom that's bigger than the one, the kingdoms of men. 403 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,120 I did have a question that was presented to me before we go. And I think this would be good for 404 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,080 you to answer. Someone asked me, we had some new people from Kerrville at our church today. 405 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:23,080 Who were wonderful. I got to meet Jeannie, Marianne, Tina, and Bob. Hopefully they're 406 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:28,040 listening to this show. I know I'm trying to really, really remember. I had to think about 407 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:35,640 their names and how I can remember their names. And so Marianne from Gilligan's Island, 408 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:42,280 Tina, because Tina's my best friend. Whatever works. Jeannie, I dream of Jeannie. Literally, 409 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,440 we were all talking about how we can remember names. All they had to remember was my name. 410 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:54,120 But I had to remember four names. But anyway, they asked a question. Where is the best source 411 00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:00,440 to get news? Oh, everybody asked that question. And I did tell them CBN news. But where else do 412 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,200 you? Because they wanted to know, where do you get your sources? Okay. I'm going to look this up for 413 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:11,400 you. So CW Miller is a history professor who attends our church, conservative. Is he still 414 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,520 a professor? Is he retired? No, no, he's retired now. But we spent some time on the phone a while 415 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:23,240 back when Ukraine war broke out. Which is still going on and it's just horrible. It's a money pit 416 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:30,600 and it's a money laundering scam basically. And so if Trump gets elected, he'll put that to an end in 417 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,240 about a day. And so anyway, I want to share... So I've shared this list with a lot of people, 418 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:38,680 but I'll just go ahead and read it over the air right now. And I think you should put this in your 419 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,000 newsletter. It's super short. So it's not that hard, but I don't mind posting this in the newsletter. 420 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:50,040 Yeah. This and that. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Fantastic. So here are... So ISCW, I said, 421 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:55,080 CW, there are so many news sources out there. They're all slanted. It's hard to know. Is there 422 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:02,440 any real news these days? And he said, not really, but if you'll kind of use a combination of these, 423 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:09,640 you can get a good picture of what's going on. Wow. So here it is. And he listed these. He said, 424 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:16,120 there's more, but these are the ones he gave me. First of all, Newsmax. And I like Newsmax. I 425 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:22,280 follow them on Instagram. They give short things. Did you give this to Adam to get his opinion on 426 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,440 this? Because I know he probably has a strong opinion. Yeah, he does. Yeah. I mean, because 427 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,080 he's got... He gets a lot of sources from people. He calls them boots on the ground. Yeah. So 428 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:37,560 Newsmax. Newsmax. Another one is OAN. And you can look that up. Yes, I've seen that. OAN. Town Hall 429 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:43,480 is another. Town Hall. Okay. Town Hall. Look it up. New Town Hall News. Epic Times. Yeah. Which we've 430 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:50,680 used that. That's the one we watch or read. That's pretty solid. Yeah. That and CBN. Like I said, 431 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:57,880 I combine all these. I love CBN. I really like CBN. I can't just get on all these. I can't. I 432 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,760 just have too much other things in life. It's easy. It's fun. More important. Here's another one called 433 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,720 Real Clear Politics. Really? So just look it up. I mean, you just look it up. Real Clear Politics. 434 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:12,280 Another one is American Greatness. Okay. These are just all websites. You can get all of these 435 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,160 online. Another one's called The National Review. Okay. You've got a lot. Yeah, there's a bunch. And 436 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,280 then one more called Just the News. Just the News. So those are the ones. And they're saying that 437 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,200 because they're not, they're trying to. They're trying not to be slanted. They're trying to just 438 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,320 report the facts. And I think I remember him telling me that was probably one of the more 439 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,960 neutral. That they're just reporting the news and they're not slanting or trying to make it. 440 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,800 They're not trying to make money off of it. Yeah. Or make it or fit a narrative. Yeah. Okay. So 441 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,360 anyway, those are the ones he recommended. And there's a lot of others that I check out and look 442 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:50,120 at. But again, CBN News, the reason I like them is because they're faith-based. Yeah. Someone asked 443 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:56,920 me today, well, are they woke? I'm like, no. No. They've always been awake. Yeah. They're awake, 444 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,720 not awake. Yeah. Somebody I've enjoyed listening to podcast wise, I just want to recommend this. 445 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:06,520 Jack Hibbs. Well, I love Jack Hibbs, obviously from Chino Hills, California. Look him up on 446 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,800 YouTube. He has. Man, he's on it. Great podcast. Another pastor that's really on it and really a 447 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,360 statesman for the movement of conservatives. Alan Jackson. Alan Jackson. We listen to both of them 448 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,720 daily. We look for little snippets of things from them daily. Cause we don't have time to listen to 449 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,160 full messages every day. We listen to them so much when we pull up our YouTube, they're all right 450 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,320 there. Yes. And so there's another good one. And that's what I told them. I told these people 451 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:35,320 that asked me this question today. Those are two sources that get, they have sources where they, 452 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:43,000 that are reliable. Also, if you go to Patriot Academy, Rick Green, he does ongoing things. 453 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,200 He's part of wall builders as well with David Barton and Tim Barton. And he's got a lot of 454 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,440 people don't know unless they're a Christian, honestly. Oh gosh. Every time you talk about it, 455 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,120 people go, what? You need to check out wall builders. It is one of the most researched. I don't know how we can get them more on the map. 456 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:03,400 Maybe have them come here. That would probably be. Why not? We need to just reach out. Yeah. We'll reach out through 457 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:12,280 Rick. Yeah. Kirk Cameron. I love Kirk Cameron. Kirk is doing some great things right now. He and Candice both are strong. Kirk has a great, 458 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:19,720 it's called the American Revival Fireside. American Fireside Revival. I'm trying to get it all. It's 459 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:24,440 kind of like living up in a down world if you don't know it. American Fireside Revival, where he goes 460 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,000 out in his backyard around his little fire ring out in probably Franklin, Tennessee. I think he's 461 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:35,160 in Nashville area, probably Franklin. And he sits by the fire and he just presents what's going on 462 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:41,000 right now. He's written a new book that I want to get called Brave. I think we ordered it and it's- 463 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:48,760 Oh good. Remember, we pre-ordered it. We pre-ordered it. But check him out. It is fantastic. Super 464 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:55,880 impressed with what he's doing. He has been one of the most stable actors. So celebrities go- 465 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:02,040 Yes, that I've ever seen. And he's not extreme. He's just super on point. Some actors, you know, 466 00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:11,640 like what's his name? The black actor that, and now he's, he was married to one of the Kardashian. 467 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:20,760 Oh. Yeah. That didn't last. Yeah. That one didn't last very long. But Candice Bure and her brother, 468 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:26,520 Cameron, Kurt Cameron are as stable as you can get. And you, I mean, you can tell their parents 469 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:34,760 just, they must've had an amazing family childhood. So today something that happened. So I'm preaching 470 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:41,320 and I put up a quote by Kurt Cameron. Yes. I pulled off of one of his podcasts and Rick Green is in 471 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,480 our church, Rick and Kara from the Patriot Academy and all their interns were there today. It was 472 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,200 great to see that row full of the young people. And he pulls out his camera and he takes a picture 473 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,400 of me on the platform with that quote from Kurt. And he wrote Kurt, cause they're friends. They're 474 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,800 friends. He was just on his podcast last week. They're always on. And he's been, he's on there 475 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,200 probably once a quarter. Yeah. So they're good friends. He's been out here. So he, I know, 476 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,120 and I'm sure we'll get to meet him. You didn't want to go because you were too tired. It was a 477 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,160 Sunday night and now I wish we would have gone. Okay. Really? You're bringing that up. I'm sorry. 478 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:22,040 But if he comes back, I don't care what night that is true. You will do this. But no, I would come, 479 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:29,240 I would go. So as we regressed, now we're here back to now. So it was cool that he sent him, 480 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:35,080 he sent it to Kurt. Which is the same thing he did with, with John Cooper. You had a picture of 481 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,160 his book because you had been reading it and you put it on the screen and we're talking about it 482 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:45,400 to our church. He had just had him on his podcast as well too. And John Cooper said, 483 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,240 no pastor will ever read or quote my book. And he said, this one is. This one is. Yeah. Anyway. 484 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:58,040 That'd be fun to get him. He could probably get him. That would be fun to have him at our church. 485 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,640 Having the Patriot Academy here and having written care in our church. They have connections. Anybody 486 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,400 they bring you. Eric Metaxas, Seth Gruber. There's so many people he's connected with 487 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,560 that we can have at our church. Seth Gruber lately. And Lance Wall now. So there's a lot. 488 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:20,920 That would be a good one. Yeah. So we'd love to hear from you. Go to livingupinaworld.com. 489 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,800 Oh, you did it again. What is wrong with me? You can't do it. That's why it needs to be living up. 490 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,960 But Adam says everybody has living up. No, I won't. Livingupinadownworld.com. 491 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:37,800 Downworld.com. Oh my gosh. I try to go too fast. You're excited. I know. You get excited to do this 492 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:45,800 podcast. I do. I get really excited because we've had over 65,000 downloads and these are people. 493 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:51,240 These are people that listen to us and give us their time. You're a loving, caring person. And 494 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:57,240 you literally, when you make friends with people too, you're not just, you don't have like wayward 495 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:02,840 friends. They're friends for life. I mean, you just, you love people. So I can see, I can see 496 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,680 where you. Listen, we're going to get to spend eternity with all these friends we're making down 497 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,480 here. And maybe even some that are on the other end of this podcast will never know in this 498 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:17,400 lifetime. Who knows in heaven, we go, oh my gosh, I know you guys. You know what I mean? Yes. Who 499 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,280 knows, right? Who knows? Good about stuff. So anyway, so we love you and we're going to go ahead 500 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,960 and land the plane on this show. Mr. Chevy, thank you for joining us today. He is a furball right 501 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,320 now. He needs a haircut. No, it's about to be, well, this is when he's the cutest. Keep him 502 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,240 brushed. We need to cut him. He looks cute when he's like a big furball, but he's a little hot. 503 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:44,520 He's like, he's burning up. It's very hot in here. And I'm drinking coffee. We love you guys. Keep 504 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,480 living up in the down world. Have a great week on purpose. I don't want to know when we'll get 505 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,080 around to our next podcast. It's probably later in the week. Yeah, later on. But we'll do it, 506 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,160 whether it's mobile or at the church one way or the other. We'll be coming to you. And so we love 507 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:23,560 you. Have a great week on purpose. Keep living up in the down world. God loves you and so do we.