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We're so excited to be with you today.

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It is episode number...

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68.

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68.

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You guys...

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I had to think about it a minute.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Bright and early this morning.

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It is early.

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We never do that.

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We've got our morning voices on.

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I know.

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I'm about an octave low, I think.

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I'm on my second cup of coffee.

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I was hoping to get it done before we started our show,

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but that's okay, because I'm still asleep.

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So if there's dead air or a gap,

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it's because you're taking a sip of coffee.

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I've got the same thing.

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I got me a fresh cup of black raffle coffee.

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I know, it's good.

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But you know what?

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We love Patriot Brew too.

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We do love Patriot Brew.

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And we just got some in the mail today from Rick Green.

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I am super stoked for the mug that he sent.

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The Tavern Mug.

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It was for me.

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It was addressed to me.

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I know, but it's because you sent the donation.

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Okay, but let me just say this.

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I sent a donation,

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because we're doing a monthly to Rick Green

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and the Patriot Academy.

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Yeah.

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But we sent...

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We're doing a lot from our church.

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We didn't get it for our church.

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So you need to say,

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hey, I need that mug for our church donations

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that we're giving.

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Because I got it from my little donation from us,

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but not from the big donation.

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Well, speaking of Rick Green and the Patriot Academy,

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we hosted them last week at our church at the bridge.

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He's phenomenal.

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And they were amazing.

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I say they,

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because the evening was a thing called comedy

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and constitution.

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Who would have ever thought putting comedy together

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with history?

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And Brad Stein is a genius.

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He is, he is.

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I've never heard anybody that could do

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what he did with that.

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I mean, it was amazing.

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I didn't know what to expect,

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because I've never been to one.

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And now I'm like, oh, well, we have to do this every year.

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And it is their fundraiser to raise money

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for Patriot Academy,

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which is a great cause.

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Great organization.

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People that are Patriots should get on board with them.

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But man, the laughter.

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I loved, this is what I loved about it.

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Being in church and laughing our heads off.

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Oh my gosh.

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And there was one or two that were offended,

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which I was kind of like, what?

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We shouldn't laugh like this in church.

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Well, that's a problem.

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Really?

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That's a problem.

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We should be laughing.

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No offense.

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You may not be in the right place.

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I know, exactly.

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I loved it.

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And most of the feedback,

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99.9% of the feedback was amazing.

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Good.

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It was so good.

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So Rick Green and Brad Stein,

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they do this thing called Comedy and Constitution.

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And then Reagan Green and Cameron Green,

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Cameron being the younger sister,

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Reagan being the middle brother.

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They're amazing songwriters and singers.

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They are uber talented.

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I said they already auditioned for our worship team.

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So they made it.

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So they need to start showing up on Thursday night.

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They are amazing.

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So it was a fantastic event.

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If you've never heard of it, check out Patriot Academy.

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You can go patriotacademy.com, I believe.

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And that's looking it up on our computer to confirm.

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But check these guys out.

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Rick has a fantastic podcast called The Tavern.

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He's bringing guys like Eric Metaxas.

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And Jimmy Pruitt.

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Oh, and the guy named Jimmy Pruitt.

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Pastor Jimmy.

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You got to be on it last week.

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I was on it last week.

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So I'll put the link on our newsletter

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that I'm gonna send out today.

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Before this will go out.

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So yeah, check it out.

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We love supporting people that are godly,

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that have a love for their country.

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And they're standing up for righteousness

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and standing up for truth.

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So we're always gonna support.

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For biblical truth.

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That's just what I love about them.

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Is they talk about the founding fathers

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and how everything that they instigated

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that they wrote in the Bill of Rights,

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the constitution, all was biblical.

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It came from biblical knowledge that they had of the Bible.

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And oh my gosh, it is powerful.

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I'm having to relearn this.

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Because you learn things as a child.

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These days they don't even learn this at all.

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It's called revisionist history.

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But when I was a child, I remember a lot of this.

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But then our nation has dumbed us down so much

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that we forget all of this, right?

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And so to be able to hear this all again

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and it just builds your faith

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to believe that America is great

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and we need to make it great again.

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I think there's somebody that's running for president

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that says that.

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I've heard that somewhere.

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Yeah, I have too.

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And we definitely need it to be great again.

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We do.

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But I think what Rick Green and Tim and David Barton

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with wall builders are doing and Eric Metaxas.

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These guys are, they're putting their life on the line.

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They really are.

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They really are.

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And we get to walk with them.

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And I love that Rick and Kara and his kids

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are in our church.

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And we're learning so much just being

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in their sphere of influence.

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And it's mind blowing to me.

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A large part of this piece that we're talking about,

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I'm just gonna reframe the words you used.

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It's having a biblical worldview.

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In other words, you see the world

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through the lens of scripture, the lens of the Bible.

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And what that does, it changes the way you see the world.

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It changes your perspective.

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It's like getting a different angle,

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a different vantage point and seeing something

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that you didn't see before.

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And so when you see through the eyes

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and the lens of scripture, suddenly everything comes alive

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and you see purpose in it and you see meaning in it.

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Instead of living a meaningless, purposeless life

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which so many people are not even living.

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They're just surviving.

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They're just hanging on until whatever's next.

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And man, when you have Jesus, when you have the word of God

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and when you are so grounded in the Bible

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and so grounded in scripture,

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it affects and impacts everything.

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You're walking away.

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You left me.

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Just kidding.

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Oh, okay, I don't blame you.

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So anyway, that whole idea of being able to,

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it's not going to, I wear glasses.

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You wear contacts.

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You've got glasses, but you like your contacts.

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But it's, see, when you put those lenses on,

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it changes your view.

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Everything comes into focus, they're supposed to, right?

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Everything comes into greater focus.

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And that's what having a biblical worldview has.

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And so when you get around guys like Rick Green, Brad Stein,

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the whole Green family, Paul Blair,

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who's a pastor in Oklahoma, who's a patriot.

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I mean, the list goes on.

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Barrett Metaxas, Pastor Alan Jackson, Pastor Jack Hibbs.

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You get around these kind of people,

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Kaylee McEnany and others,

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they have a biblical worldview.

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So the way they see the world is shaded by

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and impacted by the word of God.

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And that's how we should live our lives.

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We're seeing it through the lens of the Bible.

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It's so amazing that,

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I don't even know how all this came about

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that we got to be involved in all.

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It's kind of a fluke almost.

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Well, remember what I say,

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you don't generate a wave, you catch the wave.

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And these waves are coming by and we just jumped on them.

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And all of a sudden we find ourselves

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in these amazing events like going to Turning Point USA.

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We went to that young women's conference

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and we went as guests of some donors in our church

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of Turning Point and we got to sit with Riley Gaines,

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we talked with her.

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We got to hear Charlie Kirk, Candace Owen,

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Laura Trump, Megan Kelly.

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It was phenomenal.

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Alex Clark.

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It was wild.

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I mean, and they were all phenomenal speakers

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and presenters talking about where our country has gone

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and how we've gone off the rails

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and how do we bring this thing back?

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How do we bring it back to the word of God?

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Because we know, we know historically

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and with documentation, we always say we have the receipts.

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We know this nation was founded

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on godly principles on the scripture.

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It was the most influential document and source

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and document source that was used

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to actually build out the Declaration of Independence,

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which then became the constitution, the Bill of Rights.

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Of course, Mayflower Compact was before any of those.

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So all of those were founded and grounded

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on the word of God and they were framed

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and informed by pastors and churches.

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But somehow we've lost our way.

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I don't know that we've lost our way.

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I think we ran away.

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Oh, there you go.

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Because it's not like you're just wandering around

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and suddenly you look up and you're lost.

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When you're in rebellion, you're intentionally running away.

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Did you ever run away as a kid?

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I did.

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You have a story on that.

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You have a real-

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I don't know if I wanna share.

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I was 14.

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14 and you ran away to Mexico.

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I did.

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Wow, with your boyfriend.

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Did he even have a license to drive?

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He did.

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He was what, 16?

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He was 16.

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And you were 14 and you were gonna run away.

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I was just shy of my 15th birthday.

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Wow, was there any thought given

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to how are you gonna take care of yourselves?

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No, literally.

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When you're young, you're dumb

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and we just thought we could run away.

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I mean, he was literally helped a lot.

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Okay, let me say this.

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I thought he was helping me get away

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from a bad situation at home.

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And that he was gonna be my, he was my non-shining armor.

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But you know, you're in school.

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Hello, I was in junior high.

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He's in high school.

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I mean, I don't even know what we were thinking.

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I think we were, well, at that time we were thinking

274
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we were gonna run away, we were gonna go get married

275
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and then come back and live happily ever after.

276
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You know what I was thinking about at 14?

277
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What? Lunch.

278
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Yes.

279
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I mean, literally.

280
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Macaroni and cheese and chicken fingers or something.

281
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Campbell's soup or a Tony's pizza.

282
00:10:38,540 --> 00:10:40,200
Yeah, but you didn't have the life I did.

283
00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,540
That's true, I did not.

284
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You didn't live in constant fear and horror.

285
00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,440
No, that's true.

286
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He was trying to save me.

287
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Yeah.

288
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But it backfired.

289
00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:49,520
Wow. It backfired.

290
00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,760
So how long were y'all gone?

291
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Five days.

292
00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:54,280
And didn't you like end up in the mountains somewhere

293
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or freezing?

294
00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:55,960
I mean, y'all got stuck.

295
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We got stuck in...

296
00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,060
Wow, that could have ended really bad.

297
00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:01,820
Yeah, Cloudcroft area.

298
00:11:01,820 --> 00:11:03,000
Oh, y'all were in New Mexico.

299
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New Mexico.

300
00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,660
I thought you went to Old Mexico.

301
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Well, we did.

302
00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,160
We ended up going to El Paso and then going into Juarez,

303
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which is scary.

304
00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:10,980
That is really scary.

305
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It's like going to Columbia.

306
00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:13,980
Couple of teenagers in a car.

307
00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:15,980
But we got stuck in the snow

308
00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:20,820
and really could have died.

309
00:11:20,820 --> 00:11:22,920
We didn't have food or water.

310
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And our car got stuck.

311
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We were, I don't even know.

312
00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,020
There was no cars, nothing around us.

313
00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:31,800
It was a snowstorm that happened.

314
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Well, not to mention nefarious characters,

315
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bad actors that could have been there.

316
00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,540
It could have been bad.

317
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He ended up having to get out of the car

318
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and put on as much clothing as he could

319
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and walk to where he could find,

320
00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:48,140
where he could get help to get a tow.

321
00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:48,980
Wow.

322
00:11:48,980 --> 00:11:50,080
To get us out.

323
00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,920
And he was gone a long hours and hours and hours.

324
00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,060
He said he had to walk about 20 miles.

325
00:11:56,060 --> 00:11:56,880
I don't know.

326
00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,720
Oh my gosh.

327
00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,560
It was awful.

328
00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:59,380
It was awful.

329
00:11:59,380 --> 00:12:00,220
I mean, I don't know really if it-

330
00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:01,320
Were you praying at that point?

331
00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,500
Were you like calling out to God?

332
00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:05,120
I was hungered down in the front of the car

333
00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,500
because I was so cold.

334
00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:07,960
It was freezing.

335
00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,300
The car was kind of like a station wagon type car.

336
00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:13,140
Yeah, old school.

337
00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:13,980
I'll never forget it

338
00:12:13,980 --> 00:12:16,040
because I got so sick.

339
00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,880
Wow.

340
00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,040
By the time we ended up in El Paso

341
00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,740
and stayed at a hotel,

342
00:12:23,740 --> 00:12:28,760
I was so sick that we literally found a Gideon Bible.

343
00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,460
I know, here's two rebellious teenagers.

344
00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:33,280
Running away.

345
00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,520
Running away.

346
00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,500
And there was a Gideon Bible and we got it out

347
00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:39,720
and was like, God, please, we need help.

348
00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,800
And finally he said, call your parents.

349
00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,640
And I did.

350
00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,240
And my mom had the sheriff out.

351
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,200
There was an APB out on me.

352
00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,480
I mean, this was in the seventies.

353
00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,280
I mean, I've had a crazy life.

354
00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,280
And luckily, my mom said, please just come home.

355
00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:59,820
Come home.

356
00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:03,060
Came home, but I was sick for weeks.

357
00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:04,680
It was really bad.

358
00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:08,020
Ear infections, all kinds of sinus infections,

359
00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:09,960
just because we were stuck for so long.

360
00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,160
Did you feel like God was punishing you?

361
00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,860
I don't even know what I thought.

362
00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:15,400
I don't know what people think that way.

363
00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,660
They think, oh, I messed up,

364
00:13:16,660 --> 00:13:18,400
so I must be getting judged and punished.

365
00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,200
I probably did at the time.

366
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,480
I just know my parents, my dad specifically was,

367
00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,140
I mean, he was already an angry man.

368
00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:29,320
And then boy, what I did,

369
00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,380
it's a miracle he didn't get the belt

370
00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:36,720
and beat me to death.

371
00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,560
But he didn't.

372
00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,860
He, they were pretty gracious.

373
00:13:40,860 --> 00:13:43,000
They just said we couldn't see each other for a while.

374
00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,400
That made it really hard.

375
00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,460
I ended up pregnant, getting pregnant.

376
00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:49,400
And-

377
00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,240
Is that when you got pregnant?

378
00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,340
I was, well, within, right when we got back,

379
00:13:53,340 --> 00:13:55,980
actually when they let us see each other again.

380
00:13:55,980 --> 00:13:58,580
Because I was so fearful of my dad.

381
00:13:58,580 --> 00:13:59,400
And-

382
00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,240
I know that was your escape.

383
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,320
I was like, okay, this didn't work.

384
00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,140
This will work.

385
00:14:03,140 --> 00:14:05,440
You know, you've told the story, not this part of it.

386
00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,220
You've told the part about getting pregnant at 15,

387
00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:10,060
getting pregnant at 15,

388
00:14:10,060 --> 00:14:12,120
to get away from an abusive home and get out of-

389
00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,560
I got pregnant on my 15th birthday.

390
00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,420
And get out of a very abusive situation.

391
00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:19,400
And it wasn't because you had these fantasies

392
00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,960
about a perfect marriage or any,

393
00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,700
you just wanted out of that house.

394
00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:23,540
And that was-

395
00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:24,360
I did.

396
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,200
But I literally-

397
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,040
That was what you saw.

398
00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:26,880
I thought I would have that with him

399
00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,700
because he ran away with me.

400
00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:29,000
He stayed with me.

401
00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,180
But within a couple of months of my pregnancy,

402
00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:34,980
he ran away for good.

403
00:14:34,980 --> 00:14:37,940
What's remarkable, Annette, is how many women,

404
00:14:37,940 --> 00:14:39,960
when you've shared this story,

405
00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,880
whether it's online or whether you've shared it

406
00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,520
at a conference or a women's gathering or whatever,

407
00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,020
you've shared this many times,

408
00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:50,600
there is always inevitably more than one usually

409
00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,360
that comes up and says, that's my story too.

410
00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,700
That was my story.

411
00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:58,640
And it just tells you how just the brokenness.

412
00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,340
I don't like to use the word depravity

413
00:15:00,340 --> 00:15:02,480
because it's not always malicious.

414
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,540
Sometimes it's just pure brokenness.

415
00:15:04,540 --> 00:15:07,480
Hurt, wounding, trauma, injury

416
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,540
that leads us down these paths.

417
00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:11,820
You know, we started off talking about,

418
00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:14,180
you know, our country running away,

419
00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:15,720
but it led into this.

420
00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,220
I think this is what the Lord wants somebody to hear.

421
00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:21,660
Wow, because we weren't planning on even talking about this.

422
00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:23,560
We didn't even talk about what we were gonna talk about.

423
00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,760
But I was thinking about, as you were sharing,

424
00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,900
I thought the reason we're going down this path

425
00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,940
is because we're trying to listen to the Holy Spirit

426
00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:33,240
guide us in a conversation

427
00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,580
because our heart is to help people live up in a down world

428
00:15:36,580 --> 00:15:38,080
that no matter what you've been through,

429
00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,880
no matter what the pain, the trauma you carry

430
00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,080
or have carried, hopefully being healed

431
00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,080
and in the process of being healed,

432
00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,920
that you don't have to live in that, the big R word.

433
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,080
You don't have to live with regret the rest of your life

434
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,460
and remorse, you can actually rise out of that.

435
00:15:53,460 --> 00:15:56,660
Well, and for me, you know,

436
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,840
one bad decision led to another bad decision,

437
00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,240
but I wouldn't give up my children that I've had

438
00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,700
for anything.

439
00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:09,900
Because I wouldn't have the three children I have

440
00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:11,480
if I didn't have that one.

441
00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,580
And isn't it beautiful how God can redeem things?

442
00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:15,080
How can turn things?

443
00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,780
Well, and this is what happened.

444
00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:18,520
This is what was so cool.

445
00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,380
You know, two to three months into my pregnancy,

446
00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:23,520
my boyfriend really got scared

447
00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,060
and he literally ran away from home

448
00:16:26,060 --> 00:16:28,620
and didn't come back for a while.

449
00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:31,660
And his parents were very, they blamed me for it.

450
00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:35,060
His mother called me all kinds of names, his stepmom.

451
00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:37,500
And it was very hard on me,

452
00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:40,600
but I didn't have anybody but my mother.

453
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,300
My mother was a Christian at that time,

454
00:16:42,300 --> 00:16:45,440
had just become a Christian within a couple of years.

455
00:16:46,780 --> 00:16:47,940
My dad totally abandoned me.

456
00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:49,180
He rejected me.

457
00:16:49,180 --> 00:16:50,620
He didn't want anything to do with me.

458
00:16:50,620 --> 00:16:53,480
He was in the house, wouldn't talk to me.

459
00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,960
And I was kind of glad honestly, because he was so-

460
00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,220
You got a semblance of peace.

461
00:16:57,220 --> 00:16:58,320
I kind of got a semblance of peace

462
00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,120
and he didn't touch me or anything, which was great.

463
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,000
But the thing is, is because I went to school,

464
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,060
I finished school, junior high,

465
00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:10,660
and then the whole time I'm pregnant,

466
00:17:10,660 --> 00:17:13,500
I finished three years in my nine months.

467
00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,380
Because I was homeschooled.

468
00:17:15,380 --> 00:17:17,780
I was determined to get through school.

469
00:17:17,780 --> 00:17:19,040
School was so important to me

470
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,540
because I wanted to be a school teacher,

471
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:22,140
which I was later on.

472
00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:25,720
But I devoted my life to the Lord.

473
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,920
That's when I really-

474
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,120
That's when the turn came.

475
00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:31,380
The turn, I had already, you know,

476
00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,320
had become a Christian at the age of 10,

477
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,020
but then rebellion and things changed.

478
00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:39,860
But when I was pregnant with Alicia,

479
00:17:39,860 --> 00:17:42,960
other than school, I read my Bible every day.

480
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,040
I did devotions.

481
00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,600
I went to church.

482
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,300
I went to women's meetings.

483
00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:52,180
I was a young woman, 15, 16,

484
00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:55,540
but I was going to these because I didn't have anything.

485
00:17:55,540 --> 00:17:58,980
I lost, I literally had nothing

486
00:17:58,980 --> 00:18:01,280
because I'd lost my boyfriend.

487
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,760
I didn't have a father.

488
00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,560
I didn't have anybody but Father God.

489
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,620
And that was a huge turning point in my life.

490
00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:12,560
And I will never forget that.

491
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,800
And I don't regret it, what I did,

492
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,060
even though what I did was wrong and God forgave me,

493
00:18:18,060 --> 00:18:19,260
but he redeemed me.

494
00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:20,100
It's beautiful.

495
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,340
And it's like us,

496
00:18:21,340 --> 00:18:22,800
we started watching The Chosen again last week.

497
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,440
Oh my gosh, we're nerdy now.

498
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,280
We've been watching season four right now,

499
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,680
but we went back to season one.

500
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,120
And when we watched him,

501
00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:34,680
Jesus saying to Mary,

502
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,720
I've called you by name.

503
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,060
You are mine.

504
00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:44,720
All of that that happened to me as a child,

505
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,160
because I was a child at 15, 16,

506
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,160
and at 10 when I first was introduced to Jesus,

507
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,180
that man, it was like everybody who's ever accepted Christ

508
00:18:57,780 --> 00:18:59,480
needs to watch that episode

509
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,540
and put themselves in that place.

510
00:19:01,540 --> 00:19:03,280
Because even though I wasn't Mary,

511
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,780
I didn't have seven demons in me and I didn't have,

512
00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:07,620
well, I probably did.

513
00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:08,460
Five or six.

514
00:19:08,460 --> 00:19:09,820
I may have had five or six.

515
00:19:09,820 --> 00:19:13,960
But everybody who's been there who have been lost,

516
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,820
but then was found.

517
00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:18,560
Oh my gosh, we have all been called by name

518
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,040
and are redeemed.

519
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,860
What's funny, because it's a female, right?

520
00:19:21,860 --> 00:19:24,740
It's Mary Magdala, but I'm a dude, I'm a guy,

521
00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:27,480
and I'm watching it and I'm like guffawing.

522
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,300
You know what I mean?

523
00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:29,140
Yes.

524
00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:31,480
That's a weird name for a heaving cross.

525
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,320
It's a cry.

526
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,240
I mean, you're just like hard to contain.

527
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,920
Never heard you say that before.

528
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,920
It's because I have a very cultured literary background.

529
00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:44,220
Being from West Texas.

530
00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:45,560
Oh, yeah, right.

531
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,560
So anyway, it was this just deep cry, guttural cry,

532
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,300
but then I'm hearing you on the other side of the room,

533
00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:58,040
because I was sitting across and you are like losing it.

534
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:03,040
I don't know that I've ever in 31 years of marriage,

535
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,340
I've ever heard you cry like that.

536
00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:06,720
And I did.

537
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,540
It landed hard.

538
00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:09,320
I did print several of their episodes.

539
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,160
Right, right.

540
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,660
The third one on the fourth season,

541
00:20:14,660 --> 00:20:17,600
and then when we went back and watched the first one,

542
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,420
I did it again.

543
00:20:18,420 --> 00:20:19,900
This was another level though.

544
00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:20,720
It is.

545
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,860
I watched you and you kept saying,

546
00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:23,260
I don't know what's happening to me.

547
00:20:23,260 --> 00:20:25,160
And I'm like, you're like the Grinch growing your

548
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,000
three sizes.

549
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,300
That's what it felt like.

550
00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:28,840
And then all of a sudden you can't contain it.

551
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,140
I thought it was cleansing and it was beautiful to watch.

552
00:20:33,140 --> 00:20:33,980
I'm not gonna lie.

553
00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:35,380
I was like, wow.

554
00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:39,240
Seriously, I mean, it was beautiful

555
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,580
because I was watching the Lord do a deep work in you.

556
00:20:43,580 --> 00:20:45,080
That's the thing.

557
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,980
If we as Christians could remember where we were

558
00:20:50,060 --> 00:20:53,020
and where we were when God cleansed us,

559
00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:54,960
when he redeemed us,

560
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,100
I think we would all have that heaving cry again.

561
00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:00,100
I needed that.

562
00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:03,800
I needed to be reminded because I know

563
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,080
I am not the same person.

564
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,540
Of course I'm a lot older, but I mean inside,

565
00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:12,520
I am not the same person.

566
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,280
God is truly, he is number one in my life.

567
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,280
He is everything.

568
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,380
You're number two or you're a close number one.

569
00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:22,120
I mean, really, you are,

570
00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:24,600
but he's right above because that's where

571
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,600
he's supposed to be.

572
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,760
I wanna be number two.

573
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,860
But the thing is,

574
00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:32,340
I can't imagine with the way I grew up,

575
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,440
where I would have been if Christ hadn't intervened.

576
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,600
And he was there all along.

577
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,940
It was all up to me to open up and say,

578
00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:42,980
I need you.

579
00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,240
I can't do this without you.

580
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,360
And sometimes it takes us getting to the very bottom,

581
00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:53,560
the very bottom of our life before we can see

582
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,620
we've gotta go to the top to get healed.

583
00:21:56,620 --> 00:22:00,400
You know, pain points, God uses pain points.

584
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,100
Right now we have a nation.

585
00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:03,860
Revival is literally breaking out

586
00:22:03,860 --> 00:22:05,140
all over the world right now.

587
00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:06,600
It's like all these brush fires

588
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,360
starting all over the world.

589
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:13,180
60,000 in Amsterdam, in Holland,

590
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:14,700
25,000 in Paris.

591
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:18,620
I mean, Italy, Hungary, filling up stadiums,

592
00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:20,820
worshiping and hearing the gospel.

593
00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:23,020
School campuses, I mean college campuses

594
00:22:23,020 --> 00:22:25,680
all this last year, all over the United States.

595
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,860
12,500 people being baptized in Southern California.

596
00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:33,500
I mean, it is happening everywhere, but why?

597
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:35,660
It's because the world's in pain right now.

598
00:22:35,660 --> 00:22:38,400
It's like, you know, where sin abounds,

599
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,360
the Bible says that grace abounds all the more.

600
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,540
And what's happening is people are in pain right now.

601
00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:47,040
Whether it's inflation, whether they can't pay their bills,

602
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,080
whether they can't even afford

603
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,300
to fill their cars up anymore.

604
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,580
It's impacting their lives in a deep way.

605
00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:57,580
And it's causing us, this is what's so hard sometimes

606
00:22:58,580 --> 00:23:01,680
to take and understand is that we grow the most

607
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,020
in the seasons of the most adversity.

608
00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:06,920
And there are people listening right now going,

609
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,060
well, then I should be huge.

610
00:23:08,060 --> 00:23:09,320
I should be a giant right now

611
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,160
because I've had a lot of adversity.

612
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,100
But only though, but only if we rightly relate to it,

613
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:17,900
if we rightly respond to adversity.

614
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:19,380
Because you have two choices, right?

615
00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:21,240
You've heard me say this, B and B.

616
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,280
You can get better or you can get bitter.

617
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,820
And I've known a lot of bitter people through the years,

618
00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:28,640
even Christians who are bitter

619
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,820
and disappointed and disillusioned.

620
00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:33,160
But also I've known people that are better.

621
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,480
I was thinking about Dr. Kiltz.

622
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,060
I was listening to him do his 5 a.m. podcast.

623
00:23:38,060 --> 00:23:40,800
I was not up at five, actually I was, but I was in bed.

624
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,500
But I listened to the replay this morning.

625
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:44,100
He's just high on life.

626
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:47,100
69 years old, on fire, loves God.

627
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:48,560
He's a carnivore, of course.

628
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,600
So I love listening to talk about, and he's a doctor.

629
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,780
And he is like all about faith, all about positivity,

630
00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:56,840
all about living up in a down world.

631
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,640
He is living up in a down world.

632
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,780
So I listened to him this morning while you were getting ready.

633
00:24:00,780 --> 00:24:02,580
I had a few minutes, I was putting him on.

634
00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:04,780
I just laughed the whole time, but why?

635
00:24:04,780 --> 00:24:08,980
Because I'm watching somebody who has taken adversity.

636
00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:10,820
And they've allowed God to take it.

637
00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:11,900
Oh, everybody has.

638
00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:15,020
He's 68, 69 years of age, of course he has.

639
00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:16,560
If you have a heartbeat and a pulse,

640
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,140
you've had adversity of some kind.

641
00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:20,700
But I love what you're saying.

642
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:21,900
I thought about the scripture.

643
00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:24,140
It's actually a song, but it's a scripture.

644
00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:28,780
You've turned my morning into gladness, into dancing.

645
00:24:28,780 --> 00:24:30,840
Yeah, I know what song you're talking about.

646
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,540
Yeah, and I love that because that's exactly what God does.

647
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:38,080
It's like beauty for ashes.

648
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,180
We present these ashes and God just creates beauty out of it.

649
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:43,020
I love that.

650
00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:46,660
In fact, in September here at the bridge,

651
00:24:46,660 --> 00:24:49,800
I'm going to be sharing my testimony

652
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,800
with our church women and anybody else who's here.

653
00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:58,400
I haven't done that here in eight years.

654
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,540
Eight years?

655
00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:01,380
And we have a lot of new people.

656
00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:03,380
But I should name it Beauty for Ashes

657
00:25:03,380 --> 00:25:05,880
because that's really my story.

658
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,480
Beauty for Ashes or Ashes for Beauty?

659
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,580
No, Beauty for Ashes.

660
00:25:11,580 --> 00:25:16,360
I'm looking at you right now just smitten, totally smitten.

661
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:21,360
Because the testimony, because we think,

662
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,760
okay, well, one thing happened to us,

663
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,360
so it's all going to be good from there.

664
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:30,380
No, I've had multiple things, but my anchor was God.

665
00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:35,840
And so that anchor, when you have an anchor of hope,

666
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,920
you can get through anything.

667
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,480
And I mean anything.

668
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,220
And that, you have to have a strong foundation.

669
00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:47,220
I remember us talking about when you first plant a tree,

670
00:25:48,420 --> 00:25:50,360
and we're talking a really small tree

671
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:53,100
that's just going to take years to grow.

672
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:56,060
And a wind comes and it's just going to blow it down.

673
00:25:56,060 --> 00:26:00,240
But as that tree, the foundation of that tree,

674
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,740
the root gets deeper and deeper into the ground

675
00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:08,080
and it begins to grow, when the winds come,

676
00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:10,780
it's not going to falter.

677
00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:15,520
I mean, it is going to, it may be swayed back and forth,

678
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,620
but that is our life.

679
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:23,500
The deeper our roots go down into the foundation,

680
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:27,160
the stronger we are to get through the adversity of life.

681
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,160
And so I've had to endure many, many, many wind storms

682
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,900
in my life, but because I've had a solid foundation,

683
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:39,780
I've been able to get through that.

684
00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:41,740
And that is what we need our listener.

685
00:26:41,740 --> 00:26:44,940
That's why it's so important to get in a Bible believing

686
00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:48,660
church, to listen to Bible believing pastors,

687
00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:53,660
to be around Bible believing and living people around you,

688
00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:57,260
so that you can handle the adversities of life.

689
00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:59,900
You have to have people that will hold your arms up,

690
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:04,100
like Erin and her held Moses's arms up,

691
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,640
because he could not do it on his own.

692
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,900
And you have to have people like that into your life,

693
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:13,040
in your life, so that you can handle the adversities

694
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,680
that are going to come, because they're going to come.

695
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,240
He said, tribulation will come, period.

696
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,780
Those who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus

697
00:27:19,780 --> 00:27:21,480
will be persecuted.

698
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,780
That means there's going to be difficult times.

699
00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:26,160
The rain falls, the scripture says the rain falls

700
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,160
on the just and the unjust.

701
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,720
It hits everybody equally.

702
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,560
In other words, the rain comes, the storms come,

703
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560
everything comes in life, and it comes to us all equally.

704
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,960
The difference is in how we respond.

705
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Exactly.

706
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,800
And when you're a follower of Jesus,

707
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,440
you've got to hope that supersedes.

708
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,080
It goes beyond this stuff down here.

709
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,640
We're doing a series right now in church called

710
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,440
Beyond the Red and Blue,

711
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,980
because people are getting so caught up

712
00:27:50,980 --> 00:27:52,540
in this election year.

713
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:54,520
There's so much more beyond the red and blue.

714
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,080
There's so much more beyond the chaos that's happening

715
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,160
and that we're living in.

716
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,560
And so, I love what you said there.

717
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,660
That's so critical.

718
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:07,260
You even reminded me of there's some high profile pastors

719
00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:09,960
right now that are getting called out

720
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,940
for things that happened years ago.

721
00:28:12,940 --> 00:28:15,600
And that's not an excuse for misbehavior,

722
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,200
but from what I understand in the two that we know about,

723
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,340
they had already repented of all,

724
00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:23,440
they've already walked through things on that

725
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,340
and now it's getting dredged back up to attack them

726
00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:28,120
because they're high profile.

727
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:29,620
And you know what, these are guys,

728
00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:34,060
I actually have more confidence listening to somebody

729
00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:36,120
who's been through some stuff.

730
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,960
And has made poor choices.

731
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Made bad choices, they made the mistakes

732
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,800
and given the same scenarios, we probably would have too,

733
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,900
but they have been redeemed.

734
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:49,340
And now they're preaching, teaching and leading

735
00:28:49,340 --> 00:28:51,340
out of that place of brokenness.

736
00:28:51,340 --> 00:28:52,900
We call them broken healers.

737
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:57,420
Oftentimes the best healers are those who've been sick

738
00:28:57,420 --> 00:28:58,740
with something.

739
00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:01,140
The real legislatures, I'm not talking about

740
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:03,780
some of the bad ones, are the ones who are there

741
00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:05,920
because of a crisis that happened in their life

742
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,260
and they wanna change the laws around those things.

743
00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:13,260
So sometimes it's your scars that actually qualify you

744
00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:16,400
to speak into the pain of life.

745
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,940
But it's wild what's going on right now.

746
00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:21,000
So we've been praying for their families

747
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,200
and holding them up.

748
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,240
And their churches, their elders.

749
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,500
And not judging them.

750
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:25,500
No, because-

751
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:28,700
Again, decades, just three decades ago this stuff happened.

752
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,940
And yet even then they addressed it.

753
00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:34,280
But all of a sudden it's getting dredged back up

754
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,020
by the media and people are jumping on board

755
00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:39,160
and everybody wants to gang up on somebody

756
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,280
who appears to be successful and doing well.

757
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Everybody wants to bring them down

758
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,460
to the old crab and the bucket syndrome.

759
00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:47,700
And if we don't believe people can be redeemed,

760
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:49,400
then why are we even Christians?

761
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,460
There's no hope.

762
00:29:50,460 --> 00:29:51,400
Then there's no hope for anybody.

763
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,340
Any of us.

764
00:29:52,340 --> 00:29:55,160
No hope, because I made mistakes when I was young.

765
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,440
No way.

766
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000
I knew God and yet I ran away to Mexico.

767
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,640
So am I disqualified?

768
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,640
Exactly, I get it.

769
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,440
I got pregnant, am I misqualified?

770
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,920
All of us have made mistakes.

771
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,020
We, I was actually in the middle of the night.

772
00:30:08,020 --> 00:30:09,880
I was up at three o'clock this morning

773
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,720
because we attended a great,

774
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920
wonderful Moms for Liberty event last night

775
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,160
where I got to speak.

776
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,320
And there was two other guys that spoke.

777
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,020
And it was a wonderful time

778
00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:20,600
and just great connection with people

779
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200
who have a heart for what's going on in our schools

780
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,400
and whatnot.

781
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,960
And I was just thinking about, you know,

782
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,500
it's our brokenness and our vulnerability

783
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:30,900
that we minister out of.

784
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:34,200
Now we minister from the place of healing and growth,

785
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,780
but I'm listening to people who've been there, done that,

786
00:30:37,780 --> 00:30:40,580
who've got some, I always say, treadwear on their tires.

787
00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:42,880
I mean, they've been hurt, they've been damaged,

788
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,320
but they've come out of it.

789
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880
And now they've learned how to live up in a down world.

790
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,960
Well, we have to go back to the Bible.

791
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,460
David horribly messed up with Bathsheba,

792
00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:58,100
had her, had her husband, and had her husband killed.

793
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,500
Yeah, that's just the beginning.

794
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,800
But we're like, oh, but that's okay.

795
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,940
Yeah, but someone who had indiscretion,

796
00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:09,000
no matter what it was years ago,

797
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,540
and they can't, they shouldn't be preaching right now.

798
00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:12,840
Why?

799
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,320
If they've gone through the restoration process,

800
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,180
there is a process.

801
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,780
You should be able to preach again.

802
00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:22,920
If you've not had any other indiscretion since then.

803
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,760
Yeah, yeah.

804
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,060
I mean, other than-

805
00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:25,900
It's called redemption.

806
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:27,220
Yeah, exactly.

807
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:29,260
And God is in the business of redeeming our brokenness.

808
00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:32,000
And we have to, that,

809
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:34,940
and I know we have a heart for the,

810
00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:36,740
for people that have been-

811
00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:38,500
Oh, oh, no doubt.

812
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:40,600
No doubt for the people that have been hurt.

813
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,180
Hurt by people that have done this.

814
00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,000
Of course.

815
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,140
But why is it coming up all these years later?

816
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:48,240
Yeah, three decades later.

817
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,720
These guys were in their early 20s.

818
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,380
I mean, they were kids.

819
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:54,660
And I'm telling you, I didn't know anything

820
00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:56,860
till I was at least 38 and 40 years old.

821
00:31:56,860 --> 00:31:58,460
It started, life started to come together and go,

822
00:31:58,460 --> 00:32:01,420
oh, oh, okay, now I'm starting to see things.

823
00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:04,000
I mean, and I'm not downing anybody's in their 20s and 30s.

824
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,000
I'm just saying, I can see how those things can happen.

825
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,240
And I'd hate to be that your legacy is known

826
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,600
by the worst mistake you ever made.

827
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,480
Can we put that on anybody?

828
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,980
Or are we gonna have hope for people?

829
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:19,820
And look at Paul.

830
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:20,940
And for the best of them.

831
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:21,980
Let's look at Paul.

832
00:32:21,980 --> 00:32:22,820
That was Old Testament.

833
00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:23,980
Let's go to New Testament.

834
00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:28,980
Paul was ordering Christians to be killed.

835
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,500
And then God qualified him to preach the gospel.

836
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:35,560
He even said, I'm the chief of sinners.

837
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,800
I'm the worst.

838
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,700
But then you got Peter, your foot and mouth Peter,

839
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:41,860
I mean, who continued to open his mouth

840
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:43,600
at all the wrong times,

841
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,040
abandoned Jesus in his darkest hour,

842
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,800
in his crucifixion,

843
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,580
and then had to be restored by Jesus.

844
00:32:52,580 --> 00:32:54,640
And then he became one of the greatest apostles.

845
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,660
I mean, you have to see that sometimes what is dark

846
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,220
and our lowest points when we rightly respond.

847
00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:06,100
And what I'm saying is we're responding

848
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,760
to the mercy of God.

849
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,400
We're responding to the grace that's found in him.

850
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,340
It doesn't excuse the behavior.

851
00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:16,300
No, we have natural and logical consequences.

852
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:20,340
We have to bear the burden of what we've done and regret,

853
00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:23,440
but we hand it over to Jesus and we say, you know what?

854
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,740
I made mistakes.

855
00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:28,020
I made the bad choices and I'm gonna own that.

856
00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:30,380
And that's another piece that's so critical

857
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:32,980
is to own what you've done.

858
00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:35,820
And that is one of the things I think that

859
00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:37,920
I see such a big difference in people.

860
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Have you ever been around people

861
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,600
who never apologize for anything?

862
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,600
They never own it.

863
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,660
Because they won't own it.

864
00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:44,500
You know what I do with them.

865
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:45,600
And they blame everybody else.

866
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600
And you know what I do with people like that?

867
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,080
I put them in the can't trust category.

868
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,140
Which means I'll never bear my soul to them.

869
00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:56,720
They may be friends or acquaintances,

870
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,180
but from a distance.

871
00:33:58,180 --> 00:34:01,380
And it's the people that own their life.

872
00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:03,420
They own both the good things.

873
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:04,820
Cause you need to own the good things too.

874
00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:05,920
This is what God's done.

875
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,320
Let me tell you about it.

876
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,660
But you gotta own your mistakes as well.

877
00:34:08,660 --> 00:34:11,120
And when I'm around people who own things,

878
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,860
first of all, they're the most joyful people.

879
00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:14,220
They're the most free people

880
00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:17,340
because they know they've been set free.

881
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:18,900
People who won't apologize,

882
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,240
people who won't own their mistakes,

883
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:22,680
never get the freedom.

884
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,600
They never walk in joy.

885
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,680
They're always under it because they won't let it go.

886
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,040
They won't give it over.

887
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,320
And I found that when I confess my faults,

888
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,620
the scripture says,

889
00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:36,120
confess your faults one to another that you may be healed.

890
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,320
When you live that way, there's freedom.

891
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,560
There's freedom in that.

892
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,520
And that's our heart, isn't it, for people?

893
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,560
It is, it is.

894
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,060
Wow, thank you for sharing that.

895
00:34:44,060 --> 00:34:48,360
Well, that's why I have been able to share

896
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,160
my many stories that I've had over my lifetime

897
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,340
because I have owned it,

898
00:34:54,340 --> 00:34:56,800
but also I've given it over to the Lord

899
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,300
and I have not allowed bitterness to take root

900
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:04,340
to where I can't function as a Christian.

901
00:35:04,340 --> 00:35:06,580
I'm a Christian who's an overcomer,

902
00:35:06,580 --> 00:35:09,080
but only because of the blood of Jesus Christ.

903
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,180
That's right.

904
00:35:10,180 --> 00:35:12,620
You're not just a survivor, you're a thriver.

905
00:35:12,620 --> 00:35:14,020
And that's what we wanna see.

906
00:35:14,020 --> 00:35:15,580
That's what living up in a down world's all about,

907
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:18,560
is thriving in the midst of our brokenness

908
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,220
or in the midst of our past and saying,

909
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:25,060
I'm not gonna be labeled or defined by my worst mistakes

910
00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:27,660
because that's not, I love the fact you said earlier,

911
00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:29,740
that's not who I am anymore.

912
00:35:29,740 --> 00:35:30,900
It's not me anymore.

913
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,140
It's not.

914
00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:33,300
I don't even know that person.

915
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:34,280
And for those that are joining us, I'd say the same thing.

916
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,900
You are not who you were five, 10, 15 years ago.

917
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:39,280
You're not that person anymore.

918
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,940
You've grown, you've learned.

919
00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:43,620
But maybe now just by you sharing your story today,

920
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,580
maybe it'll help others just own it and say,

921
00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:48,260
I really do need to own it,

922
00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:50,260
but also need to realize God is good.

923
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:52,520
And he's pulling me up out of that pit.

924
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,420
I don't have to live there.

925
00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:55,820
I don't live back there.

926
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:58,120
I learned from back there, I don't live back there.

927
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,960
Does that make sense?

928
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,800
Absolutely.

929
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,100
Awesome.

930
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:01,940
We've got some people to thank by the way.

931
00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:03,500
And we've had so much going on.

932
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,000
We did the Moms for Liberty event last night,

933
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,300
which the Moms for Liberty group here in Fredericksburg,

934
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:11,100
where we live, they're strong.

935
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:12,140
I mean, these ladies are.

936
00:36:12,140 --> 00:36:13,880
They're mama bears.

937
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,780
This is a very, very tough town to get through.

938
00:36:15,780 --> 00:36:16,920
This is a difficult time.

939
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,720
People think, oh, you live in small town America,

940
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,180
but you gotta realize we live in a very wealthy county.

941
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,480
And there's a lot of progressive thinkers here

942
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,760
that in the progresses can be very dangerous.

943
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,220
I mean, there's some darkness.

944
00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:34,200
We have school books, we have library books

945
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,840
in both our, not all three of our elementary,

946
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,040
middle school and high school filled with porn.

947
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,480
I mean, up to, and we can't seem to get them off the shelf,

948
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,580
but I think there's a movement growing right now.

949
00:36:46,580 --> 00:36:48,940
I think that's gonna happen, but it's a fight.

950
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:51,080
I mean, it is frontline stuff.

951
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,920
And these Moms for Liberty are carrying the mantle on that.

952
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,760
And so I was honored to get to pray last night

953
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,720
for our school board, for our schools,

954
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,660
but also get to share my heart and a little bit of my story

955
00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:04,060
of how I had my awakening.

956
00:37:04,060 --> 00:37:06,740
And then we had some, Pastor Mike Bell,

957
00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:08,760
another pastor here in town who I just love

958
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,200
and adore him and his wife.

959
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,300
He shared a little bit about his own journey.

960
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,540
And then of course, Pastor Vega from Houston.

961
00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:16,800
And he brought it hard.

962
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,200
I mean, he was the main speaker

963
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,180
and he's been going to school boards all over Texas,

964
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:23,220
school board meetings.

965
00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:27,320
And reading and like reading passages

966
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,980
and these school boards try to shut him down.

967
00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:30,860
He goes, so you won't listen to this,

968
00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:32,980
but you want your kids to read it?

969
00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:34,620
You know, what kind of hypocrite are you?

970
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:35,620
I mean, he's strong.

971
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:38,660
I mean, he is one of those challenging kind of guys,

972
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:40,800
but he's very inspiring and encouraging.

973
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,800
So we did that.

974
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,300
Of course, we had a big weekend last week

975
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:44,600
with Patriots and all that.

976
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,540
That was amazing.

977
00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:47,800
So a lot of good things happening.

978
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,840
And by the way, we got a little travel coming up.

979
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,040
Yes.

980
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,380
And our good friends, now Adam and Tina.

981
00:37:53,380 --> 00:37:55,380
Adam is actually in Holland right now.

982
00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:56,740
I know, he's in Amsterdam.

983
00:37:56,740 --> 00:37:58,820
Yeah, no, he's not Amsterdam.

984
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:00,280
I thought he was in Amsterdam.

985
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480
I thought he was, well, he went into Amsterdam.

986
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,820
I think they did their meetup there,

987
00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:08,820
but he's actually in, where Christina lives.

988
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,960
Starts with an R.

989
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,920
Oh.

990
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,760
Rotterdam.

991
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,860
Rotterdam, that's what it is.

992
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,300
Yeah, so he's in Rotterdam with her, seeing his daughter,

993
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:18,260
but he also did a meetup for No Agenda,

994
00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:20,000
encouraging the keeper there while he's there

995
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,940
and been in touch with him every day.

996
00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:25,080
And he's staying in the book, he's on fire.

997
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,640
He's getting to meet a lot of cool people.

998
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,140
And then Tina is here taking care of Phoebe,

999
00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:31,480
her large toddler.

1000
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,320
Her large.

1001
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,040
She's a very large baby.

1002
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,980
Yeah, her monster dog, but she's here doing that.

1003
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:38,620
She was at the event last night too,

1004
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:40,760
so it was good to see her.

1005
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520
But she did say she's lonely, she misses her husband.

1006
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,560
I told her, I said, because y'all just got remarried.

1007
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,400
Yeah, yeah.

1008
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,240
The renewal.

1009
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,060
I said, y'all are still on your honeymoon.

1010
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:51,100
The foul renewal, yeah.

1011
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,440
It's funny, but yeah.

1012
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,440
So anyway, just, hey, give Kareem the keeper a listen.

1013
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,200
These guys are fantastic podcasters and just great people,

1014
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,380
great human beings, and they are great brothers

1015
00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:03,420
and sisters in Christ.

1016
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,740
So give them a listen.

1017
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:08,380
And then also, Adam's man, I love No Agenda

1018
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:10,780
because it's just media deconstruction and saying,

1019
00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:13,920
hey, here's what's behind all of that.

1020
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,560
And I love that he and John DeVorek take all that apart.

1021
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,500
So be sure and give them a listen.

1022
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:20,760
Listen, we got some thanks to give out.

1023
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,600
I'm gonna pull it up right quick.

1024
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,460
And I just wanna start with Mr. Adam Curry

1025
00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:27,140
with a big striper boost.

1026
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:32,140
And he wrote this, he said, KYBO culture shapers.

1027
00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:34,540
Thank you, Adam, I appreciate that.

1028
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:35,880
We are that.

1029
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,380
Thank you for putting out another episode

1030
00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:39,640
during what was a busy week.

1031
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,120
I'll be listening on my way to Amsterdam with that,

1032
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,280
which that already happened.

1033
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,060
And Father Dorff, I love the Dorffle family.

1034
00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:47,920
These are amazing folks.

1035
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,660
He says this, my wife Cheryl and I love

1036
00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:52,060
what you guys are doing.

1037
00:39:52,060 --> 00:39:56,500
TJ the raffle is our oldest of 10 children, one girl,

1038
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:59,560
10 children and they have one girl, poor thing.

1039
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,700
It could be a good thing or a bad thing.

1040
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:02,540
But I think it's a good thing.

1041
00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:03,700
It's a great family.

1042
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,740
Jesus is always meeting M-E-E-T-I-N-G.

1043
00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:09,340
We need to have a little carnivore corner in a minute.

1044
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:12,280
Meet underscores our real purpose to meet.

1045
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,080
So M-E-A-T underscores our real purpose to M-E-E-T.

1046
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Why not something like meet, pray, love?

1047
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,480
They're funny.

1048
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,660
So we had made a comment that we may change this

1049
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:24,660
living up and down.

1050
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:26,560
We're not gonna do that and go that direction,

1051
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,100
but we're gonna have a carnivore corner every time

1052
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,600
because we gotta talk about carnivore.

1053
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,440
It's who we are.

1054
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Let me finish the thanks and we'll do that for a minute.

1055
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,840
Is that okay?

1056
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,100
So he gave us sats as well.

1057
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,140
And then cheese burglar, I love it.

1058
00:40:38,140 --> 00:40:39,680
Remember the cheese burglar?

1059
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,680
Says I found living up thanks to Kareem the keeper

1060
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,780
plus no agenda.

1061
00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:46,080
Started with episode one late January.

1062
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There always seems to be some part of your message

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that was relevant in my life.

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Always a positive effect.

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My late mother used to say,

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pray for the strength to get you through all that is life

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and the rest will take care of itself.

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Now understand, thanks for everything.

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Many blessings to you both.

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Calvin, Calvin, cheese burglar.

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I love it.

1072
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Thank you.

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Thanks for the sats and just for the note.

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We really appreciate you reaching out

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and letting us know you're listening.

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And we wanna encourage you on your journey

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as you continue on.

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And then we have my thrill, the learned.

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Love the handle here.

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It's been a while and it's wonderful

1081
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but you two have seen big opportunities

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from our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Love that you visited my town of Murfreesboro.

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So he's from Tennessee.

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I however go to Franklin Road Baptist Church

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an independent Baptist ministry with huge missionary outreach

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with a traditional warm Andy Griffith like

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West Virginia small town feel.

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Yeah, that would be Murfreesboro.

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Maybe all would one day have a connection with us.

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Lord willing.

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By the way, are you familiar with Ray Comfort?

1093
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Yeah, we remember who Ray Comfort is.

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Hey, my thrill to learn.

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It's so good to hear from you brother blessings to you.

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And we have one more from Sir Brian with an I

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is from a couple of weeks ago.

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Before streaming bridge on Sunday,

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I went to an in-person 830 service at a local church.

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Way to go, Sir Brian.

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The sermon was about sharing your stories

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and connecting with others.

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After the service, I met the pastor and said,

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my friend, Pastor Jimmy always says connection is protection.

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He goes, I love that.

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And I'm stealing it starting next week.

1107
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Hey brother, you can have it.

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We pastors share our material.

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So yeah, it's public domain.

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Take it please and run with it.

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And he says, so I wanted to let you know

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that you're trending.

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Hope to see you all again soon.

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KYBO, hey, appreciate you my brother.

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Appreciate who you are and appreciate what God

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is doing in your life.

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Let's do a carnivore corner real quick.

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All right, real quick.

1119
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I'm wearing a shirt.

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What does it say?

1121
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Healing humanity, the power of a proper human die.

1122
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I'm gonna put a picture of this shirt on the newsletter.

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Okay, there you go.

1124
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Yeah, so what is that all about?

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It's about the movie that we were just filmed in.

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But it's about carnivore and about healing our bodies

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through nutrition and carnivore, keto-vore, keto,

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those three things, which is a huge part of our life,

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which we can't do this podcast without bringing up health

1130
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because our health has changed drastically in the last year

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because we started the carnivore diet a year ago.

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Me, I'm a little bit more keto-vore.

1133
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I'll add some things, but it's literally changed our life.

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People are coming up to us at church.

1135
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And last night at the mom's event.

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And at the mom's event, who've heard that we were on it

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through various platforms and it's changed their life.

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We talked to someone recently who had Crohn's disease.

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No, the great houses.

1140
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Oh, the great house.

1141
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Had Crohn's disease, someone in the family

1142
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and been on it a year, totally healed.

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And so I love that.

1144
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She said she's on the road to healing.

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On the road to healing.

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And I love that.

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She's never had any breakthroughs with that disease

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until carnivore.

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And so anyway, if you're interested in carnivore diet,

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man, somebody you should listen to is Dr. Robert Kiltz.

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You can just look him up on YouTube.

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It's K-I-L-T-Z.

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Or you can listen to Dr. Ken Berry, another great one.

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Dr. Anthony Chafee, a new friend of ours, Carrie Mann.

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We love Carrie Mann.

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And Adam Lacey is another.

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These guys aren't doctors, but they are on the journey.

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They've had so many of their own, from depression

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to brain fog to physical ailments, cured, healed.

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And they're continuing on that road

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and that journey of recovery.

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And by the way, we're on day 349 today.

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That is 11.6 months.

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So our carniversaries coming up.

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It sure is.

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Our one year carniversary.

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What I love about it is, you know, we feel so good.

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And our heart is for people that are listening

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to get their health in check.

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That's right.

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There are foods that are bad for us

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that are causing all kinds of illnesses in our bodies.

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Inflammation. Inflammation.

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We lack energy.

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We lack muscle tone.

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We lack the ability to get through life.

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And our immune system is so depleted.

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Because of bad nutrition.

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And so we made a choice

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and we're not saying everybody has to do this,

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but everybody should look at what's good for them.

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And the research we've done over the last year

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has caused us to go towards this.

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And I believe everybody should start.

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I mean, we need the energy to get through this world today.

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Absolutely.

1187
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And because it can cause major depression.

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This is what I love about the carnivore for us

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and for others that we've been around,

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that have been huge influences in our life,

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is that the depression has gone away from those people.

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I haven't had severe depression,

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but nutrition can have a huge impact on your life

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to where you can literally walk

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in total peace and joy and not live in that depression.

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Because of, and not have to take meds.

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That's the whole point is we don't wanna have to take meds.

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So we've changed nutrition to give us,

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to embody our life with peace and joy.

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You mix God and good nutrition

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and you've got a really good life.

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That's a one-two punch, isn't it?

1203
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Yes, and you can get through the adversities of life

1204
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when you're eating healthy.

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When you're studying health and that's what we're doing.

1206
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I wanna have a question for you.

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How has doing carnivore changing your way of eating,

1208
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how has that impacted your confidence?

1209
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Just your overall well-being and confidence.

1210
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That was kind of what I was leading up to

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because when you feel good

1212
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and people tell you you look better

1213
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:01,260
because you're brighter, you might be thinner.

1214
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:03,360
Not everybody gets super thin on it,

1215
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but most people do.

1216
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,600
Well, you told me I look amazing today.

1217
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So I just gotta say that out loud.

1218
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I'm just like, thank you, baby girl.

1219
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We need to get a hotel room right now, just kidding.

1220
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,840
I'm just saying.

1221
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,140
Wow, no editing here.

1222
00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:17,540
But the thing is, it does give you the confidence

1223
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when you feel good.

1224
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When you don't feel good,

1225
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you have no confidence in anything, not even God,

1226
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because you're just like,

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you're so down and depleted from confidence.

1228
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And when you begin to feel good,

1229
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even if you, what's crazy is some people don't know

1230
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how bad they feel till they feel good.

1231
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That's it, yeah.

1232
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And that was kind of where you were at before.

1233
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And when you started to feel good,

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you're like, wow, I didn't even,

1235
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it's kind of like the sabbatical.

1236
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We didn't know how tired we were till we took the sabbatical

1237
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and we're like, ah.

1238
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It's changed our life for that reason.

1239
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And so the confidence comes in.

1240
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I'm sorry I interrupted.

1241
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No, it's okay.

1242
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Something that's happened to me is that

1243
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when I go to grocery stores,

1244
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especially in the grocery store,

1245
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our basket looks weird.

1246
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It's got a bunch of eggs.

1247
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It's got a little bit of cheese.

1248
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It's got heavy cream and lots of meat and bacon.

1249
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Lots of bacon.

1250
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That's our jet fuel.

1251
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And so that's basically it,

1252
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other than household products you're cleaning with

1253
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or whatever, but it's mostly that when we go to the store.

1254
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And I look around and I'm not judging.

1255
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This isn't a judging thing.

1256
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It's an observation thing.

1257
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:27,740
Cause I never noticed this before,

1258
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but I notice now what people are putting in their baskets.

1259
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And of course, knowing what we know now about food

1260
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,820
and about the, what's called the sad,

1261
00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:40,820
this standard American diet and the pyramid,

1262
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the food pyramid is horrible.

1263
00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:46,360
It is like, it is a death trap.

1264
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And people are, I mean, it's taking people out.

1265
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More cancer is on the rise.

1266
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,340
I mean, everything is on the rise right now,

1267
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all due to damaged mitochondria.

1268
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And that's what inflammation does.

1269
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And it leads to cancer.

1270
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And so you don't have to be overweight to have cancer.

1271
00:49:01,540 --> 00:49:03,580
It's just damaged mitochondria.

1272
00:49:03,580 --> 00:49:05,480
So anyway, all that's happening.

1273
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,720
So what I notice is how when people are heavily inflamed

1274
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and they lean over their baskets

1275
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and they literally are leaning on their shopping cart

1276
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,920
as they're going to the store,

1277
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,820
grabbing Rice Krispie treats off the shelves

1278
00:49:19,820 --> 00:49:23,860
and Captain Crunch and just all this terrible food.

1279
00:49:23,860 --> 00:49:25,800
And we're beating our children.

1280
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,800
I feel bad for what I've done to my children in the past.

1281
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,040
I know we've had this conversation.

1282
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,340
If I had children again, which God forbid,

1283
00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:36,280
because I'm older.

1284
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,180
But I would do things so differently.

1285
00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:41,020
I would probably not put them in public school for one.

1286
00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:42,420
That'd be one, yeah, big one.

1287
00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:45,020
But I would definitely watch what I'm giving them.

1288
00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:46,760
We wouldn't give them a phone screen either.

1289
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,660
We just didn't know what we know now.

1290
00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:52,060
And the more we've studied, the more we've learned.

1291
00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:56,160
And the more we've, you know, we just,

1292
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,640
now do we have a treat every now and then?

1293
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,040
Absolutely.

1294
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But we're probably 99% carnivore or Ketovor.

1295
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Typically my treat is more Ketovor.

1296
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,820
It's more like I'm gonna have some fruit or something.

1297
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,040
Or sometimes I'll have some mashed potatoes,

1298
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,820
a little bit of mashed potatoes just to give me that.

1299
00:50:19,820 --> 00:50:21,360
I put so much butter and heavy cream.

1300
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,560
There's more of that than there is potato.

1301
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But that's on occasion.

1302
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But I just, I can tell my body when I can do that

1303
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and when I can't.

1304
00:50:34,140 --> 00:50:36,440
And most of the time, because things are,

1305
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,580
I mean, a lot of people don't realize

1306
00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:40,800
if they would get on it for 30 days,

1307
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then they could see what they could add back to

1308
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,040
that it's gonna be okay for them.

1309
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,380
And some people do that.

1310
00:50:46,380 --> 00:50:48,020
I'm not real tolerant towards gluten and things like that.

1311
00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:48,840
You can't.

1312
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,120
It makes you sick.

1313
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,960
I don't play with it.

1314
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,280
So I'm more carnivore.

1315
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,160
Where I can play with it a little bit.

1316
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,380
But I also recognize,

1317
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for the long run, I have to stay carnivore.

1318
00:50:59,660 --> 00:51:01,960
I can play with it every now and then.

1319
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,600
You really don't have the luxury of that.

1320
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,560
I don't even do that.

1321
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,400
You can't.

1322
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,700
Because I feel so good.

1323
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:08,200
Why would I wanna put something in my body

1324
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,040
that's gonna make me sick?

1325
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,800
And you have IBS or had, excuse me, IBS.

1326
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,940
And so when you do something, you're sick.

1327
00:51:15,940 --> 00:51:16,780
It'll flare up.

1328
00:51:16,780 --> 00:51:17,980
With me, I don't have to.

1329
00:51:17,980 --> 00:51:21,080
So you have to do what your body tells you to do.

1330
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,080
And so we're encouraging you, get your health in check.

1331
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,360
Do a 90 day experiment.

1332
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,180
Experiment.

1333
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:32,600
What's 90 days of your life if it changes your life?

1334
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,900
This is one of the things that,

1335
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:35,060
I'm gonna say this before we,

1336
00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:36,760
and let's end with this.

1337
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,740
But a few years ago, there was someone in our church

1338
00:51:39,740 --> 00:51:42,600
and she told me about the Whole30 program.

1339
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,200
And she said that she was gonna start it.

1340
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,240
And it's basically an elimination diet.

1341
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,480
You don't have sugar.

1342
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,740
You don't have any carbs.

1343
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:54,020
You just eat certain things for 30 days.

1344
00:51:54,020 --> 00:51:56,380
And you kinda reset your body.

1345
00:51:56,380 --> 00:52:00,780
And I remember watching her get more confidence.

1346
00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:02,320
She lost weight.

1347
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,620
She felt better.

1348
00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:05,920
But the problem with that kinda diet

1349
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,700
is then when you start,

1350
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:09,400
and you're really trying to see what it is

1351
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,700
that's causing the inflammation.

1352
00:52:10,700 --> 00:52:15,360
But then most people end up adding everything back in

1353
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,640
and they're worse off than they were before.

1354
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,040
I think Whole30 is good if you can sustain it forever.

1355
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,140
And maybe add back just one or two things that you,

1356
00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:27,840
but what happens is people get to see it as a diet.

1357
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,640
Where the carnivore's not a diet,

1358
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,180
it's a way of eating.

1359
00:52:31,180 --> 00:52:32,320
That's the difference.

1360
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,380
That's what I was about to say.

1361
00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:34,980
So I appreciate you saying that.

1362
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,320
If you don't fix what's causing you to eat bad,

1363
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,960
if it's comfort food or it's become an addiction,

1364
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,760
like sugar especially and starches and carbs,

1365
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,700
if you don't fix that, you won't stay on it.

1366
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:50,300
You will stay on any diet.

1367
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:52,800
And so when we jumped in carnivore,

1368
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,900
we'd already been doing keto off and on for five years.

1369
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:56,540
We understood what it took.

1370
00:52:56,540 --> 00:52:57,680
We understood the value,

1371
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,140
but we wanted to take it up another notch.

1372
00:53:00,140 --> 00:53:02,180
And I think our first conversation was,

1373
00:53:02,180 --> 00:53:03,520
we'll do it for what, 30 days?

1374
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,420
Yeah, during our sabbatical or 60 days?

1375
00:53:05,420 --> 00:53:07,180
And I was kind of objecting to it

1376
00:53:07,180 --> 00:53:08,020
because I'm thinking-

1377
00:53:08,020 --> 00:53:09,320
You were having a harder time with it.

1378
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,860
I can't just eat meat and eggs and butter.

1379
00:53:10,860 --> 00:53:12,560
There is no way.

1380
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,760
But when I did it-

1381
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,120
What do I snack on now?

1382
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,320
You catch me all the time.

1383
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,800
This is what I, you catch me in the kitchen all the time.

1384
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,620
Butter.

1385
00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:22,000
You eat butter like it's one out of style.

1386
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,900
I'll take a knife and just take a big old chunk of butter.

1387
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:25,400
But I also have to say,

1388
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,700
and let's, you know, we've had our labs,

1389
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:30,840
I've had my labs run.

1390
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,740
And my doctor says, I am perfectly fine.

1391
00:53:34,740 --> 00:53:36,580
My labs are really good.

1392
00:53:36,580 --> 00:53:39,380
And I do, I have my labs run every four to six months,

1393
00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:40,220
just to make sure-

1394
00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:41,480
Marcy, your doctor's saying,

1395
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,680
whatever you're doing, keep doing it.

1396
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,920
And she knows you're doing carnivore,

1397
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,080
she knows I'm doing it, she's for it,

1398
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,580
which I love, not every doctor is.

1399
00:53:48,580 --> 00:53:52,160
And that's the sad thing is they don't know nutrition.

1400
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,000
Right.

1401
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,320
But anyway, I think it's something that we need to,

1402
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,200
we need to look at our health

1403
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,100
and we need to think about how can we do,

1404
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,500
live this life and live for God in the long run.

1405
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:06,340
There you go.

1406
00:54:06,340 --> 00:54:08,580
And that's, you gotta get your health in check.

1407
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:10,880
So speaking of keeping your health in check,

1408
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,740
we're about to do a sabbatical reboot.

1409
00:54:12,740 --> 00:54:13,580
Yes.

1410
00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:15,480
So last year during our sabbatical,

1411
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,620
in consultation with our Sabbath coach,

1412
00:54:18,620 --> 00:54:20,720
our sabbatical coach, he said,

1413
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,160
next year from now on,

1414
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,460
you should take a month off every summer and do a reboot

1415
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:28,700
and revisit this, so you stay fresh.

1416
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:30,920
And what I found, so we're about to do that in July.

1417
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,640
And what I've found is that when I know respite is coming,

1418
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,800
when I know a rest is in sight, I can run hard.

1419
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,000
So I found that we are running hard right up to July.

1420
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,840
And then it's like, okay, time to rest.

1421
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Time to rest.

1422
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,120
I think that sabbatical last year

1423
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,080
is the best thing we ever did.

1424
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,320
So we got some travel, we're coming up,

1425
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,680
we're gonna go to Colorado,

1426
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,160
looking forward to being in the mountains

1427
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,880
because coffee always tastes better

1428
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,480
even in the summer in the mountains.

1429
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,060
So I'm excited about that because I do love my coffee.

1430
00:54:58,060 --> 00:55:00,820
And then we're gonna go out to Naples, Florida.

1431
00:55:00,820 --> 00:55:01,660
Yes.

1432
00:55:01,660 --> 00:55:02,960
And just get some beach time.

1433
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,800
So we get the mountains and the beach.

1434
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,040
Mountains and beach, so yeah.

1435
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,860
I don't know which I'm more excited about.

1436
00:55:06,860 --> 00:55:08,040
I'm excited about just-

1437
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,100
But we're going to two places we've never been.

1438
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:12,200
So I'm excited about getting away with you.

1439
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,300
I told you this morning.

1440
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:14,140
You did.

1441
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:16,940
I like, I like, I love travel.

1442
00:55:16,940 --> 00:55:18,480
That's all.

1443
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,680
I love everything about it.

1444
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Even going through TSA, especially now we're TSA pre.

1445
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,480
I don't mind it anymore.

1446
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,260
But just being with you and driving out of town,

1447
00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:28,480
going to the airport.

1448
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,620
Which we're together every day at work.

1449
00:55:30,620 --> 00:55:31,820
But there's something about getting away.

1450
00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:33,460
Yeah, something about driving off the field.

1451
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:35,660
This is what I love about,

1452
00:55:35,660 --> 00:55:38,400
I love because I get you all to myself.

1453
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,960
When we're at church or we're at home,

1454
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,640
we're, you're divided.

1455
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,840
Attention is divided.

1456
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,680
We're public figures.

1457
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,800
I mean, that's what we do as pastors.

1458
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,080
And so I get you all to myself.

1459
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:50,900
That works both ways, babe.

1460
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:51,740
And that makes me very happy.

1461
00:55:51,740 --> 00:55:52,580
That makes me happy too.

1462
00:55:52,580 --> 00:55:53,880
31 years of wow.

1463
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,220
I love you, 31 years of wow.

1464
00:55:57,220 --> 00:55:59,060
Well, let's land the plane on this show.

1465
00:55:59,060 --> 00:56:00,680
It's so good to talk to everybody.

1466
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,280
And thank you for joining us today.

1467
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,780
We want to encourage you.

1468
00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:06,100
You can indeed live up in a damn world.

1469
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,260
What's the final word, baby?

1470
00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:08,100
Yes.

1471
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:09,600
Get your health and check.

1472
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,620
Get your health and check.

1473
00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:12,260
Get your health and check.

1474
00:56:12,260 --> 00:56:15,440
We need it to survive in this world.

1475
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,260
Amen.

1476
00:56:16,260 --> 00:56:17,100
God bless you.

1477
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:17,940
We're out.

1478
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:18,780
We love you.

1479
00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:41,980
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