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Wow!

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We made it to 60.

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We made it to 60.

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I like an even number like that.

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It's almost like we should celebrate it.

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It's what it feels like to me.

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Like this is like a milestone of some kind.

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It's crazy.

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We've been gone for a while.

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You've been gone for three weeks.

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We need to celebrate.

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Okay what do you want to celebrate?

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I mean all they lack is some painting and put the carpet in but nobody's doing anything

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Faith has been sharing her office with us for months.

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It's been a rough on that front.

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It's just we haven't really had our office yet.

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He is curry.

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Curry and the keeper.

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But he said something and I was able to respond in a way that I felt like God told me to respond

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He said, I miss you being on the show.

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You really need to be on the show, Annette.

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Jimmy can do it or we can do it more sparsely is because I really felt like the Lord said

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Annette, you preach every week.

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Some weeks you don't because we have Pastor Brian preaching now.

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I don't have that opportunity is like you do at church, but through our podcast.

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back on your podcast because this is where your voice is heard.

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last few weeks because I'm, you know, in my prayer time, I'm asking the Lord, you know,

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And he keeps saying, you've got a podcast Annette, here's your purpose.

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This is, it reminded me of what God had been dealing with me about.

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if we have to do it the next day, but then post it later, we can do that.

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Everything's disruptive, disrupted and disruptive.

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I think we were on the show saying, finally we have an office.

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Faith came in here.

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So it has been insane.

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So this is the first day we've been back where all the offices are almost finished.

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Doors are on them now and stained.

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We've got carpet coming for those offices as well.

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and there hasn't been all of Faith's video equipment in here on carts and laying around everywhere.

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Pretty remarkable that we finally got to this place.

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It feels very peaceful right now.

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I'm actually very chilled right now.

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Who are you chatting with? Tina?

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No, but you know what? I just got a red alert.

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So for those of you who've been following and who hasn't in America,

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the bombings, everything that's going on with Israel and the terrorist Iran bombing.

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Oh my gosh.

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Saddam Moran School.

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Annette has this app that we were advised to get or at least one of us

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where whenever there is the penetration of airspace by a rocket, you get an alert in real time.

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And I saw you looking at your watch.

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I know. I know.

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We're hoping there's nothing to that.

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I didn't hear anything about the red alert.

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That red alert app was just nonstop.

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I mean like red alert, red alert, red alert.

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We don't have television.

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We have a television, but we don't have TV channels.

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We got on CBN to be able to see what was going on in real time.

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Oh, our hearts were just broken.

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I reached out to a friend of mine, Rabbi Evan Moffitt from Chicago.

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He has a congregation in Chicago.

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He's been carnivore for two years.

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We are 285 days now.

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who's carnivore today on YouTube.

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So anyway, we just had this great...

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I reached out to him and said, praying for you, brother, praying for Israel.

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We stand with you.

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Congregates, people from our congregation are there now.

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Our former church, there were people there on staff that were there trying to get out.

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which would have been Sunday in Israel.

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Hopefully they got out.

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Hopefully they did.

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He said that he was going to relay our prayers to them.

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They wanted to be encouraged.

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These evangelical Christians are praying for them.

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and we stand by Israel.

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Not very many Christians understand, explain why we're to pray for Israel.

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It's not an option.

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It's not a...if you feel like it, it's a command in Scripture.

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All who love it within their walls will be prosperous.

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I mean, we're supposed to pray for them.

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Then you go into the New Testament, into the book of Romans, which is really the hallmark book

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regarding how we're to be for Israel and how God is still for Israel,

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even though their eyes have been blinded for a season, they're still God's children.

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They're still God's chosen people.

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where some believe erroneously in bad theology that the church has replaced Israel.

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It's the apple of his eye, and that is not the truth.

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We've been added in.

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We're Gentiles who've been added in, grafted onto the vine, as what Romans says.

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We've just been grafted in.

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And you look at the Scriptures, it says, to the Jew first and to the Gentile, or then to the Gentile.

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We support them financially.

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We, as a church, we sow into them.

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We pray for them almost every Sunday without fail.

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That's on me.

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I carry that burden.

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And so, yeah, we're all about them.

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So, when they are under attack, we feel like our brothers and sisters are under it.

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That's family to us.

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It's like family.

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And so, it's very, very important.

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It's very important that we support Israel.

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In fact, I'm going to look up that verse, if you don't mind, babe.

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No, go ahead.

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Psalm 12, actually, I had it up.

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Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

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This is Psalm 122, 6.

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Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

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May they be secure who love you, peace within your walls, and security within your towers.

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For my brothers and companions' sake, I will say, peace be within you.

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For the sake of the Lord our God, I will seek your good.

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So, that's the command from Scripture.

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And so, we take that very seriously.

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The Scripture also says that those who bless Israel will be blessed.

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And so, we just stand on that and trust that.

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And God has blessed us because of our love for them, we believe.

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So, anyway, that's the importance of it.

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And so, yeah, just to see you.

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Yeah.

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So, you look on your face.

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I only got one red alert.

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Okay.

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I don't have my phone, but it came up on my watch.

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So, it always comes up every time a rocket has penetrated airspace.

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So, yeah, hopefully that came to nothing and whatnot.

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We look at the news later.

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Hopefully so.

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So, yeah.

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So, what else have you been up to?

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You've been busy.

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Well, I've been busy.

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I've been…

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Some travel.

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I've had some travel time, and we're about to do some more traveling.

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We're leaving next week for Nashville, going to a culture and Christianity conference,

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which I'm excited about.

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And then we get back, and then we go to Wisconsin to Liberty Pastors School.

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And then we get back, we go…

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That's crazy.

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Back to Nashville, to K-Love, to the awards show there with the Currys.

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They'll be attending with us.

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Then we get back, and we go to Colorado for a week.

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And then we get back, and we rest.

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We've got a lot going on.

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We have a lot.

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But it's good.

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Everything we're going to are things that are adding to us and equipping us and educating

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us.

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The culture and Christianity…

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I'm so excited about that conference.

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I'm probably more stoked about that one than any of them, and thank goodness it's next

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Friday, a week from Friday.

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And Eric Metaxas is going to be there.

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It's at Allen Jackson's Church in Murfreesboro, which is an amazing, amazing church there

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in Tennessee.

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And Kaylee McEnany, Kirk Cameron, there's many, many people that are influential.

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Yeah, I would call them culture shapers.

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Yes, definitely.

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And they're believers, followers of Jesus, who are saying what we're saying.

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Enough is enough.

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This world is…

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Our nation has been on a terrible slide, downhill slide, since this present administration has

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been in charge.

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It has been a…not just a slide, it's been falling off a cliff.

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It's falling off a cliff.

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Morality, moving away from God and Christianity, persecuting Christians, actually.

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We're being persecuted in the U.S.

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Oh, yeah.

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We never thought that it would get to this point this quick.

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Yeah, not in our lifetime, anyway.

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And since Biden has taken the helm, we are…they're trying to take God out of every aspect.

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They already started in the schools years ago.

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Now they're taking it out everywhere, the courtrooms, the schools.

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They're trying to obliterate the churches.

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I mean, literally, it's unbelievable what we're going through right now.

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Yeah, never thought we'd see this in our lifetime, or at least in America.

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Not in America.

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Considering how our church, our nation…

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Is founded.

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Is founded.

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Not was founded, is founded.

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And we're calling people back to our foundations in Christ, foundations upon the Word of God.

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And what's happened is, is our voice has been removed for the public square.

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And I've been reading, doing a lot of history reading.

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Can you believe I'm reading history?

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God has done such a work.

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I prayed for revival and spiritual awakening, and God woke me up.

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He woke me up.

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Because you were praying for it, for the church, for the world, and then God did something in you over the summer.

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Wow, yeah.

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Well, you know, you had a message, preached a message two weeks ago called Awake or Awoke.

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Awoke or Awake.

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Awoke or Awake.

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And it was very enlightening.

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Our church, especially Second Service, because it's the fullest service, really just…

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There was so much participation in that message.

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And you have had some interesting conversations with people that are woke recently.

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And I want you to share, because you shared what happened when you were spending some time with a certain person.

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We will not name this person at all.

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And you came back and you were talking to the pastoral staff, and you shared a statement about having compassion versus empathy.

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And it literally, every one of us in the room when you were sharing this had this aha moment.

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We were just like, what?

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We have never heard anything.

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In fact, Pastor Russ said, where did you get that from?

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And you said, it just came to me as I was talking to you just now.

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And we were all shocked.

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It's like that wisdom of a young person when they say something that you're just like, what?

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Only a 70-year-old would say something like that, but a 12-year-old, but you, not that I'm comparing you like you're 12 or 70, but it was so…

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I have never heard you talk like that.

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And it was, I believe it was the anointing of God.

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Can you share that, what happened, because you were talking with this person who thinks the world is just going great, that there's really nothing wrong with the world other than the Christians, and yet you're talking to a Christian.

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So, share that conversation.

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I won't go deep into that conversation, but what it was, it was just a reminder to me that we all come to circumstances, situations, Scripture, truth, our version of truth, with different perspectives.

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We come informed by different life experiences, informed by what we've been through, trauma, no trauma, healed trauma.

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We all look at things different, and so I'm sitting with another Christian, and we're having this conversation, and we're having sharp disagreement.

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And you love this person.

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Oh, love, love this guy.

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But we're on opposite ends of the spectrum.

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And this is beyond red and blue.

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This isn't about politics.

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It's about ideologies.

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It's about how we see…

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It's about worldview, how you see the world, the big word in the 80s and 90s.

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It's also a paradigm.

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It's a biblical worldview.

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Right, exactly.

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And yet, you all can both be Christians and have a totally different biblical worldview, how you see Jesus.

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That's what threw me off.

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Yeah, he was bemoaning the fact that a lot of evangelical Christians are just so simplistic.

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You know, the Bible says this, you just throw out a Scripture, and you think that should carry weight.

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And I'm saying it should.

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Yeah, it's the Word of God.

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We don't make the Word of God work for us.

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We are for the Word of God.

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It's His Word.

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Because who's in charge, us or God?

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I mean, who knows better?

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Who's the boss?

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Right.

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And at the end of the day, that's what you come back to.

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Who's my boss?

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Well, my boss, aka Lord and Savior, is God.

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It's Jesus.

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It's the Holy Spirit, you know, the Trinity.

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And so, for me, while for him, that just sounds too simplistic.

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And what he was explaining to me was that he's got friends that are transgender, friends that are gay.

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And I'm like, well, I know people, too.

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I've got friends that are gay.

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Exactly.

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So, okay.

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And family.

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Yeah, and family.

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So, we both have this situation, but we're coming at it from very different ways.

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What it dawned on me while we were talking, and this isn't a knock or a negative.

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No.

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It's an observation.

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Yes.

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He is extremely empathetic, and I'm a recovering empath.

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So, people that are listening to us right now, you may be empathetic or be an empath.

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And that means when you sit down knee to knee with somebody and they start to explain their situation,

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even if it's something you completely do not agree with, because of your empathy, you begin to feel what they feel.

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You feel their pain.

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You feel their trauma.

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Which is not a bad thing at all.

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No, no, no.

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Actually, it's not if it's managed well.

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Right.

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Empathy is one of those strange emotions that can actually override common sense.

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It can override your belief system, because feelings are very powerful.

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You know, it's like with children.

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We're not teaching kids to think critically anymore.

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We're teaching that we're going with what they feel.

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We're just going to affirm their feelings.

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We're brainwashing them that if you feel that, then you must be that.

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Right.

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If I feel like I'm a cat today, then I must be a cat and I'm going to, you know,

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the teachers are now going to put out cat litter boxes, which they are in schools.

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It's happened, yeah.

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Which to the normal person, that sounds absolutely crazy.

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But to some people, it's totally fine.

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Right.

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I don't get that.

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So empathy, back to empathy.

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So empathy is very subjective.

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And I wrote this, so I would rather read it, because I think I'm more clear with this.

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So hopefully...

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Because this was part of your post today.

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Yeah, this is a...I write a daily devotional, and this is today.

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And you can go to LivingUpInADownWorld.com.

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No, LivingUpInADownWorld.com.

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Sorry, I say that so fast.

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I know.

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It's natural.

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LivingUpInADownWorld.com and click on the blog, and it'll take you to all the devotionals there every day.

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Today's title, Truth Tellers Needed.

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There's a vast difference between empathy and compassion.

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Empathy is subjective and enters into and gets lost in the emotion of another, thereby losing objectivity and the ability to speak truth when needed.

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Compassion, on the other hand, is objective and has the ability to separate a needed action or response from the subjective feelings that may arise.

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Compassion addresses a situation or need directly and articulately.

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Jesus understood the difference.

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He could be moved in his gut with compassion, yet still speak the truth in love.

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We would serve others well by choosing compassion over empathy.

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Our culture needs compassionate, objective, unrestrained truth.

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Which means...put it...okay, bullet down to what that means practically.

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Practically speaking, if I'm sitting knee to knee with somebody, and let's say they're trans, they're transgender,

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they've gone through all the stuff, and everything in me says, this is wrong.

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As I read scripture, as I see this violation of natural...

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Because scripture says what?

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So as I see this violation of natural order...so you go to Romans chapter 1 and see...you created them female, he created them.

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I mean, how we were created, how we're built, our physiology, our psychology, everything is built to be complementary to one another in every way, physically, emotionally, everything.

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So then we want to violate that. We want to...we decide...

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We decide.

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We decide...this is back to Tower of Babel stuff...we decide how we want the world to see us.

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So we start calling ourselves by other pronouns or other names, and we expect everybody else to lean into that.

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Well, so if I'm sitting knee to knee with somebody and I'm empathetic, I'm a hyper-empath,

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that means everything I say I believe can get overridden by my emotions in the moment.

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So as they're telling me the trauma that...and this is what was explained to me with this other case.

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You know, she was so traumatized. Well, she's a he now.

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She was so traumatized as a child, so traumatized by an older brother, so traumatized by men.

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So that when she got older, she decided she wanted to be a man instead.

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So all that to say...so as he's listening to that, that overrides everything he would ever think about that.

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So if he had a biblical view, his empathy took over that view to where now he's taken the Bible

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and got out of the equation, and now he's empathetic to her situation.

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It's because he's feeling what she's...

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He's feeling that.

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...she, whatever, is feeling.

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Instead of having compassion for the person, not putting down the person.

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We're not saying you put down the person, you tell them they're wrong.

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No.

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But having compassion and disagreeing with their decision, but loving them in it.

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So the difference is this. Empathy is subjective.

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That means whatever the moment calls for, you tend to mold into that, and then it shuts you down.

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You won't speak truth to that individual.

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See, we've been shut out of the public square.

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So an empath has been convinced that if I say what I really think and believe, it's going to hurt their feelings.

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I'm going to add to their trauma.

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Okay?

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So we shut down.

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So empath won't address anything.

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They avoid conflict.

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Which is how you used to be for years.

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Oh, I'm a recovering empath. Big time. Big time.

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I totally get it.

493
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,160
This is why I know this, because I am one and was.

494
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,160
I'm getting over it.

495
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,160
I'm growing out of it.

496
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,160
Finally, compassion is different.

497
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Compassion is objective.

498
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,160
Compassion can rise above the emotion in the moment.

499
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,160
They don't get lost in the emotion.

500
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,160
The emotion doesn't ever...

501
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,160
They feel sympathy.

502
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,160
They feel compassion for that person.

503
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,160
It may move them, but it doesn't...

504
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,160
But it doesn't cause them to override what they believe is truth.

505
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,160
Objective truth.

506
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,160
Absolute objective truth.

507
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,160
So by not doing that, they can actually still speak into that situation,

508
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,160
because they're not so lost in the emotion.

509
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,160
Does that make sense?

510
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,160
The emotion becomes like a whirlwind you're caught in.

511
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,160
And once you're caught in that emotional whirlwind, you can't get out of it.

512
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,160
To me, if you...

513
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,160
Let's think this through.

514
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,160
If you have true beliefs, I mean, you dig down and you have these beliefs

515
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:58,160
that are down to the root, you won't be swayed one way or the other, correct?

516
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,160
I love the term believing believers.

517
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,160
Yes.

518
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,160
You have to ask yourself, am I a believing believer,

519
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,160
or do I believe as so long as it serves me?

520
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,160
There you go.

521
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:14,160
Because the world's changing, but the Bible and God has never changed.

522
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,160
He's the same yesterday, today, and forever.

523
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,160
You don't take away from the Bible and you don't add to it.

524
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:27,160
But if we're wavering in our beliefs, do we really know God?

525
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,160
Because that means I don't think we really know what the Word says,

526
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,160
or we wouldn't waver so much, because this is what we hear a lot.

527
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,160
Well, you know, we're in a different world now.

528
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,160
Things have changed.

529
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,160
We've progressed.

530
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,160
What does that say?

531
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,160
God hasn't progressed with us?

532
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,160
We're putting God in a whole different plane, a whole different level.

533
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,160
He's the same.

534
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,160
We're the ones who are changing.

535
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,160
We are becoming more evil, honestly, if you think about it,

536
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:07,160
because we're allowing the times of history, which is repeating itself,

537
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,160
to dictate our beliefs now.

538
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,160
So do we really have an anchor?

539
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,160
You know what I'm saying?

540
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,160
I know exactly what you're saying.

541
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,160
Because when you have an anchor, your beliefs don't change.

542
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,160
The world's changing, but you stay solid to that.

543
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:31,160
Now, that doesn't mean we just discount everybody who doesn't have the same beliefs.

544
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,160
We love them.

545
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,160
We pray for them.

546
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,160
And if God gives us an inroad in their life, we will say the truth.

547
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,160
It doesn't mean we say that to every single person we come,

548
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:53,160
because I do believe there's a time to stay silent unless you've been invited in.

549
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,160
But there's a time where God says, no, you go do that.

550
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:03,160
But you have to have a relationship with God and have to know when to speak truth, right?

551
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,160
Absolutely.

552
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:11,160
But what's happened is the world says, you don't believe in me, so you hate me.

553
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,160
That is furthest from the truth, in fact.

554
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,160
Well, actually, the world says you don't agree with me.

555
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,160
If you don't agree with me, you...

556
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,160
If we disagree, we have to hate each other.

557
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Yes.

558
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:27,160
You got a letter recently from someone because you spoke with this message, Awoken or Awake.

559
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:35,160
You actually spoke against DEI and someone called you a hater.

560
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160
You didn't even say anything to that effect.

561
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Yeah.

562
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,160
But because they disagreed with what you were saying, they assumed you hated.

563
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Yeah.

564
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,160
They don't know you at all.

565
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,160
Yeah.

566
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,160
It bothered me.

567
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,160
Yeah.

568
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
But again, we're coming at something from different perspectives.

569
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Totally.

570
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,360
And the individual is...what she did is she went on our Facebook page and apologized to

571
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,360
everybody who...

572
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Was listening to her.

573
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,560
...who heard that message because it was a message of hate.

574
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,160
And there was nothing hatred in there at all.

575
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,160
No.

576
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,160
But she interpreted it that way because we disagree, which is so woke.

577
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,160
It is.

578
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
I mean, that's as woke as it gets.

579
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:24,120
That is wokeism, the virus of wokeism, where if we don't agree, that means you hate me,

580
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,680
and I have to hate you because the culture has brought this in.

581
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,600
This is so satanic and demonic.

582
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,960
Let's get back to where it really starts.

583
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,960
Right.

584
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,200
This is not people.

585
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,400
This is people being used as pawns in a much larger war.

586
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Exactly.

587
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,960
In a much larger scheme.

588
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,040
It's dark, it's demonic, it's satanic, but it's also been prophesied that these times

589
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,720
are gonna get bad.

590
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,280
It's been prophesied scripturally...

591
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,280
And they are.

592
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,800
...that it's gonna get dark.

593
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,620
And we're seeing darkness descend upon our land, upon the world, upon the globe.

594
00:30:56,620 --> 00:31:00,240
If you have a pulse, I don't know how you could disagree with that.

595
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:06,000
So we are seeing signs of the times, biblical prophetic signs, that something's up.

596
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,220
And this is when the Scripture says, don't be asleep.

597
00:31:10,220 --> 00:31:12,800
Don't be caught sleeping during the day.

598
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
I call it being asleep in the light.

599
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,080
We cannot be asleep when it's light.

600
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,280
We have to be awake.

601
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,520
And so I believe that part of what God had given me, gosh, two, three, four years ago

602
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,040
was to start praying for spiritual awakening.

603
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,040
Right.

604
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,000
I've been using that verbiage for a long time.

605
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,480
Well, let me go back to the story of the gentleman that you were talking with about compassion

606
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,120
and empathy and talking about this transgender person.

607
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:49,160
And he, who says he's a Christian, said, but Jesus had empathy and compassion.

608
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:56,200
He was nice, so he would be okay with this person being a transgender, gay, married to

609
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,840
a person of the same sex from birth.

610
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,640
I don't even know how to say all that.

611
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,840
But he says Jesus is okay with that.

612
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,840
Yeah.

613
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,860
Again, it goes back to your worldview and to your biblical view of Christ.

614
00:32:11,860 --> 00:32:18,800
And so I see that and I say, well, actually, Jesus spoke very strong into the culture.

615
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,440
He goes, oh, no, no, Jesus didn't speak to culture.

616
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,440
He spoke to individuals.

617
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800
I'm like, no.

618
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,800
He spoke to kings.

619
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Yes.

620
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,800
He spoke to leaders.

621
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Yes.

622
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,800
He spoke to religious leaders.

623
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Yes.

624
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,800
This is all culture, by the way.

625
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,640
He turned over the tables in the temple.

626
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,600
He drove out the money changers.

627
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,920
So he wasn't always just this nice person on the earth.

628
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:49,080
There were times when he had to exercise his authority out of anger.

629
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,360
It's a righteous anger.

630
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,880
It's a righteous anger.

631
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,880
There's a righteous anger.

632
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000
There is a righteous anger.

633
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,160
And it's when you see the principles of a larger kingdom than the kingdoms of men being

634
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,840
violated.

635
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,340
And at that point, there's a call for righteous indignation, righteous anger.

636
00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:12,880
And so to say that Jesus just walked around carrying lambs over his shoulder is a misnomer

637
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,640
of who Jesus was.

638
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,120
I love what Adam Curry says.

639
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,240
I'm just going to say it like he said it.

640
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000
He said Jesus was a badass outlaw.

641
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080
I love that because he was.

642
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,320
He didn't conform to the culture.

643
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,840
He was not weak.

644
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880
He wasn't a conformist.

645
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,160
He was a revolutionary.

646
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,920
I mean, not a rebel, but a revolutionary.

647
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,720
He brought a revolution.

648
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,220
He helped us see things through a different worldview, a different lens.

649
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:49,800
And so when people tell me that, my empath meter goes off because what they're saying

650
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,460
is we got to be non-confrontive.

651
00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:56,680
We have to stay out of conflict.

652
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,960
And we just need to be quiet, keep our head down, and the government and those in power

653
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,720
will just ignore us.

654
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,720
They'll just go on by.

655
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:10,560
And I think about what happened with Bonhoeffer in the 1930s in Germany when the Christian

656
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,360
churches, when they heard the Jews going by in the trains, and the trains ran right by

657
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,120
the churches in the town.

658
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,660
The trains ran right through the towns.

659
00:34:20,660 --> 00:34:26,600
And they were loaded down with thousands upon thousands of Jewish people who had been rounded

660
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:33,240
up, who had been roughed up, beaten, tortured, thrown into cattle cars, and were being taken

661
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:36,600
off to Auschwitz when they were being taken off to the gas chambers.

662
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,160
And they didn't even know to the extent what was going to happen to them.

663
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,160
No, they had no idea.

664
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,160
They were separated from their families.

665
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Oh, their families were separated, children from parents.

666
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,880
It was horrific.

667
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,480
And it was demonic and satanic and dark.

668
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,680
And it was the brainchild of Adolf Hitler.

669
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,960
So when that happened, the churches, as those trains were rolling by, would turn, would

670
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:06,660
sing louder and make more noise to drown out the screams of the Jewish people as they rolled

671
00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:08,200
on by.

672
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:15,440
And that, to me, is indicative of what I see happening now, because we're so empathetic

673
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,200
that we're going to tell somebody, it's okay for you to be that way because you had trauma.

674
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,800
It's okay.

675
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,840
Everybody's got an excuse for bad behavior.

676
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,560
I've been mistreated, so this is the way I am.

677
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,560
But here's the thing.

678
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,240
As Christians, I know that God is a Redeemer.

679
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:34,240
He's a Restorer.

680
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,920
I had a lot of trauma growing up.

681
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200
A lot of trauma.

682
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:46,520
And it continues with issues with my children and what happened in our lifetime.

683
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,720
But you know what?

684
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,800
God restored that.

685
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,880
He healed us because we went to Him instead of going to the world's way of doing things.

686
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,520
If anybody should have turned out gay and transgender, it would have been me.

687
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:08,320
And I allowed Jesus to restore me, to heal me.

688
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:15,760
I mean, not that people aren't, but so many people have voices telling them, you should

689
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,160
just do this, you should do this instead of going to God.

690
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:25,040
Now maybe they have, and things have happened in their lives, and they ended up going that

691
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,040
way.

692
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:33,120
I still believe that once you bring God into things, He can, but it takes work on our part

693
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,120
too.

694
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,120
It takes work.

695
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,280
I don't, this grace movement, we are saved by grace.

696
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,480
We don't have to work for our salvation.

697
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,880
But there is work to do.

698
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:55,160
I have work to do on myself to make sure that I am a righteous, holy person.

699
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,880
He sees me that way, but there is still work I have to do.

700
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,600
It doesn't mean I can just go do whatever I want and God is going to cover that sin.

701
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,600
No, there is work.

702
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,640
But you know what?

703
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:13,880
I was able to get help from counselors and pastors and people to help me get through

704
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:19,240
all of the issues that I was going through, all the trauma.

705
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:23,960
And so I, you know, and I am still a work in progress.

706
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:33,120
It's not, we live in a fallen world and we are always going to, we could revert, I don't

707
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,920
want to say always, we can revert back to our old ways easily.

708
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:45,680
But when you stay connected to the vine, to Jesus Christ, when you stay connected, it's

709
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:52,440
a lot easier to follow the right path than when you get away from God, get away from

710
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:58,160
His Word, you will turn and go to the path that the world is following, right?

711
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Dr. Rice Brooks made a great quote.

712
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,720
I shared this in the last show where he said, for every step you take away from the cross,

713
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:10,040
there will be a crowd of people patting you on the back and cheering you on.

714
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,440
And it's true because people want Christians to fail because they feel bad about themselves

715
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:21,240
or they just think you're self-righteous and magnanimous and you're morally superior.

716
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,960
And so when a Christian falls, they're cheering you on.

717
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,040
They're like, oh yeah, see, we knew it wasn't true.

718
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,720
And they will applaud every step you take away from the cross.

719
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:37,220
But this is the time when the world waxes worse, when the world goes into these kinds

720
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:41,320
of places, this is where we, this is when we stand up.

721
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,160
It really is the church's finest hour.

722
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,160
This is our opportunity.

723
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:51,560
But too many people don't stand up and they're, so the world sees Christians as weak.

724
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,280
That's why the world won't turn to the church.

725
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,620
It won't turn, they won't turn to God because they see weakness.

726
00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:02,240
Every believer, I totally agree with that.

727
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:07,400
Every believer has to make a decision and it is, do I want to be liked or do I want

728
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,400
to be respected?

729
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,940
There you go.

730
00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:14,440
And I made up my mind that I'm done with being liked.

731
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Liked is overrated.

732
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Likes on social media are overrated.

733
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,380
They don't mean anything at the end of the day.

734
00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:23,120
It's just a thumbs up, hey, way to go.

735
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,160
But I want to be respected.

736
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,720
But more important, I want to please my God and my King.

737
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:28,720
There you go.

738
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:29,720
That's the key.

739
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:30,720
That's all that matters to me.

740
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:34,040
Are we going to please the world or are we going to please God?

741
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Exactly.

742
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:42,000
And what that means is that God will put things on my heart and in my mind to do that will

743
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,120
make me look crazy to the world.

744
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,920
It'll make us look ridiculous.

745
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:55,280
To take a stand for the unborn, to take a stand against LGBTQ+, to take a stand against

746
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:04,020
neo-Marxism and socialism and communism and everything that's trying to be infused into

747
00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:06,580
our culture right now, we look archaic.

748
00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:08,360
We look out of touch, out of step.

749
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,120
We're not progressive anymore.

750
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,440
But at the end of the day, I can sleep.

751
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,280
At the end of the day, I can go to bed at peace knowing I said what needed to be said.

752
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,660
And I did it not just...

753
00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:23,020
We speak the truth in love, Ephesians 4 says, but not just that.

754
00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:26,180
We speak the truth because of love.

755
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:30,640
Because I've been loved and someone spoke truth to me, got my attention.

756
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,880
And I'm like, I need to consider that.

757
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,820
So at the end of the day, if you're a believer, you've got to make a decision.

758
00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:39,920
Do I want to be liked or do I want to be respected?

759
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,020
And then the second, really the most is this.

760
00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:47,360
Do I want to please God who is my King and my Lord?

761
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,880
Because we've stopped talking in the American church about the Lordship of Christ.

762
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,220
He's the boss.

763
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:55,220
We're not.

764
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:59,080
And the moment we think we are, we move right back to Genesis 11.

765
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,000
That's what I was looking at while you were talking.

766
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,200
Genesis chapter 11, the Tower of Babel.

767
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,120
And it was the idea that we're smarter than God, we know more than God.

768
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,400
In fact, we're going to build a tower all the way up to heaven.

769
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480
We're going to usurp God.

770
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:19,560
The World Economic Forum just basically had a conversation like that and they said, we

771
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,560
don't need God, we're going to do it better.

772
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,700
They said, we're going to do human engineering instead of theological engineering and spiritual

773
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,120
engineering and spiritual engineering.

774
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,080
So, we can handle it ourselves.

775
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,440
And they basically thumbed their nose at God and said, we got this.

776
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:42,600
And yet, I feel like God is waking us up going, you've got to be different than even...

777
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,040
I mean, the churches are asleep, Jimmy.

778
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,040
They're asleep.

779
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,200
We used to be.

780
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,320
We had people leave the church because we were asleep.

781
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,620
Now people are coming back because they're going, finally, you're awake, but I've been

782
00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:56,160
praying for you to be awake.

783
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,640
And I'm glad.

784
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,440
I wish more would come back that left.

785
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,820
And we didn't change because of them.

786
00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:11,000
Their prayers were heard and God woke us up and said, wake up to what's really going on

787
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,440
in this world and you be the church that's different.

788
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:23,240
And so, we're partnering with other churches right now that are speaking up, speaking the

789
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:24,720
truth in love.

790
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:28,680
Again, we have to say, this isn't a hate fest.

791
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,960
We don't hate anyone.

792
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,200
We love everyone.

793
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,320
We have compassion.

794
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:39,280
We have empathy, but it's safe.

795
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:45,040
We're not allowing it to overtake our beliefs because once we do, we really didn't believe

796
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,540
it in the first place.

797
00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:54,280
It's like if you go to the altar and say, I want to be saved, and then the next day,

798
00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:00,960
you already change your mind and do something that's totally against God.

799
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,240
Did you really believe it?

800
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:06,160
No, because it didn't really take root.

801
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:12,440
If the devil can talk you out of it that quick, then you probably didn't get fully saved,

802
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,040
but it is a process.

803
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:21,720
And that means when things come against you after you do become saved, you don't acquiesce

804
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:22,720
to that.

805
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:28,160
You find those eagles that can help you get to the place where you need to be.

806
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,160
You know what I'm saying?

807
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,160
Yes.

808
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,920
And too many of us just acquiesce to the world like the world knows, like celebrities.

809
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,920
They know everything.

810
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,180
We're going to follow those celebrities because they know more than anybody.

811
00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:43,180
Look at them.

812
00:43:43,180 --> 00:43:44,180
They're stars.

813
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:45,180
What?

814
00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:48,400
What is going on in this world?

815
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,740
Everybody wants heroes.

816
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:50,740
Everybody wants heroes.

817
00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:54,640
So it's time for Christians to stand up and be counted.

818
00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:00,240
Everybody else is letting their voice be heard, speaking their truth, speaking their agendas.

819
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:03,080
And we're the quiet ones because we're so empathetic.

820
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,680
We have no backbone or spine.

821
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,860
Here's what I'm excited about.

822
00:44:06,860 --> 00:44:10,640
There are pastors and churches waking up right now all over.

823
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,600
I think the enemy has overplayed his hand.

824
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,600
He's poked the sleeping giant, and the sleeping giant's waking up.

825
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,280
And I'm going to do my part to wake up as many friends that are in ministry and pastors

826
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,880
as much as I can until my dying breath.

827
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,040
We've got to speak up.

828
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,460
We've got to stand out.

829
00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:31,820
We have a mandate from God, from Jesus himself.

830
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:37,320
First of all, in the Lord's prayer, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is

831
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,320
in heaven.

832
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,160
Matthew chapter 28, the great commission, which we could also call the great omission

833
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,240
in many cases, and that is where to go therefore and make disciples of all the nations.

834
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:48,560
That is a command.

835
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,080
That's not an option.

836
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,200
That's not like if you feel like it or if you got your act together or if your kids

837
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,280
are grown up and out of the house or if you don't have to go to 15 baseball practices

838
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,880
this week with all five of your kids being a soccer mom or a baseball mom.

839
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,160
No, it's the call for every believer to stand up and to be counted.

840
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,480
And the thing that we're afraid of is that this might cost us something.

841
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,240
John Hoffer wrote a book called The Cost of Discipleship.

842
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:22,400
While grace is free, there's a price to be paid to speak up and speak out in this world

843
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,020
on behalf of Jesus Christ.

844
00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,800
Many people have died.

845
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Thousands of people will die today for the cause of Jesus Christ around the globe.

846
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,240
It's happening right now.

847
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,320
Martyrdom is still a thing.

848
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,720
So how do you handle...

849
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,800
This is going to be heavy, and this is probably the last thing we need to say, and then we

850
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,120
need to call it quits today.

851
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,640
And we'll probably get some mail on this.

852
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:53,640
How do you handle when you have a family member like a brother, sister, or a daughter, son

853
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,640
that is either homosexual or transgender?

854
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,760
How do you handle that in truth and in love?

855
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,620
The best thing you can do is pray.

856
00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:04,920
That is number one.

857
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,720
Don't ever go anywhere without praying.

858
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:08,720
Ever.

859
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,440
Don't step into any space without prayer.

860
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,640
Don't step into any space without putting the armor of God on.

861
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,400
And you never put that person down because for one, it's not them.

862
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Yeah, exactly.

863
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,520
It is not them.

864
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,480
They are a victim in a very real sense.

865
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Now, when I say a victim, I mean to a system.

866
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,280
They still have to be accountable for their decisions.

867
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,280
They've made decisions.

868
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,880
They got them there, but they're playing into a virus.

869
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,460
The Bible calls it the spirit of the age.

870
00:46:38,460 --> 00:46:43,460
The spirit of the age right now is that virus that wants to separate families, wants to

871
00:46:43,460 --> 00:46:45,560
break up the nuclear family.

872
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:53,040
It wants to confuse gender, thereby making for a weak culture and easily dominated and

873
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,000
controlled people.

874
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,760
So all that's going on right now.

875
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,940
And so we have to, and one of my monikers and thing I've said for a long time is don't

876
00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:05,840
go where you're not invited.

877
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,400
But I think sometimes we think because no one's saying anything that there's no invitation

878
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,400
there.

879
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,960
The invitation in terms of family, I mean the invitation is the relationship.

880
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:23,040
The fact that I'm in a relationship with a family member, I have to go in at the level

881
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,320
that that relationship can handle.

882
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,080
That might be treading very lightly.

883
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,280
Or it could be going in because I love you.

884
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,640
You've got to say this because I love you.

885
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,340
And if I don't, then I don't really love you.

886
00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:40,440
The bridge is out, you're heading towards it, and if I don't warn you about it, you're

887
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,440
going to run off the cliff.

888
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,240
Again, you're just, you're disagreeing too with their decision or with their way of life,

889
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:49,080
but you're not being unloving about it.

890
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,880
I think that's the problem with Christians.

891
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,560
There's so many that are hateful.

892
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,560
Yeah.

893
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Oh gosh, no kidding.

894
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,520
That, you know, put up the signs, you're going to go to hell and all that.

895
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,840
I mean, give me a break.

896
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,080
That's not love.

897
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,040
That's just not love.

898
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,920
There's a way to handle these situations that is totally in love because it's the love of

899
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,140
God that's in you that's going to draw people.

900
00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:23,520
It's when you put people down and you use scripture to make a cause and you're doing

901
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,240
it out of anger versus love, that's when you lose people.

902
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,280
And I don't like any of that.

903
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,920
None of that.

904
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,960
I think everything should be out of love.

905
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,960
That's the thing.

906
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:43,040
If someone listens to one of your messages and they take, they are filtering it through

907
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:50,520
what they've seen or heard other Christians do that are acting in the opposite of love.

908
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,640
And that's what happened when this person wrote in last week, I believe, because you've

909
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:01,400
said it over and over and over in the pulpit, over and over, how much you love and we love.

910
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,120
We have grandchildren that are walking in that lifestyle.

911
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,280
And do we ignore them?

912
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,640
Do we do everything we can to stay away from them?

913
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,640
No.

914
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,400
We're right in their orbit.

915
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,480
They know where we stand.

916
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,880
We don't even have to say because they know because they know who we are.

917
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:30,160
But we can love them, have a conversation with them, a normal conversation about life,

918
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,200
and be okay.

919
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,580
But we can disagree.

920
00:49:33,580 --> 00:49:35,720
We can agree to disagree.

921
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:36,720
Correct?

922
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:37,720
Yeah, absolutely.

923
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:38,720
Yeah.

924
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:39,720
The goal is not to win an argument.

925
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,360
We're not here to win a debate.

926
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,360
We're here to win hearts.

927
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,280
But what do we do every day?

928
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,280
We pray.

929
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,280
God, intervene.

930
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,280
Yes.

931
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,920
Show them the love you have for them.

932
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Because once we understand the love He has for us, it can really change everything.

933
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,440
It's true.

934
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,440
It can help us love ourselves.

935
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,440
You know what I mean?

936
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Yes.

937
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:08,040
So anyway, I think we need to end on that because I wanted people to hear that part

938
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,560
of because there's so many Christians out there that are so hateful.

939
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
And we don't ever want to come across that way.

940
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,840
We always want to have…

941
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:24,200
I mean, we allowed someone in our home for months to stay with us that was gay, that

942
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,200
had AIDS.

943
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,200
Oh, another one just went off.

944
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,760
And that we nurtured him.

945
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,160
But what did we do?

946
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,560
Did we say, well, we don't agree with your lifestyle?

947
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,560
We don't know.

948
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,040
I took him with me to where I went.

949
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,480
We loved him.

950
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:44,880
And he ended up giving his life to Christ and died six months later.

951
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,800
If we wouldn't have acted as a Christian, who knows where he would be right now?

952
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,800
You know what I mean?

953
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:58,440
He did what God showed us to do for this man.

954
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,320
And I'm proud that we handled it the way we did.

955
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,960
He never felt judged.

956
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,480
Never, never.

957
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,680
We need not shy away from these conversations though.

958
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,760
They tell you there's two things you should never talk about with family, religion and

959
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,760
politics.

960
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,880
But you know what we need to be talking about?

961
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,440
Religion and politics.

962
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,440
Time is getting short.

963
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,820
If we really believe time is short, then we need to be talking about religion and politics.

964
00:51:23,820 --> 00:51:25,720
Because there is a rapture coming.

965
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:27,480
We're pre-rapture pastors.

966
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:34,920
We believe in pre-trib pastors that the rapture is going to happen before the tribulation.

967
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,640
I believe we're about to be in tribulation.

968
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,560
Of course, that could still be a hundred years from now.

969
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:47,320
I believe it's more imminent based on the signs of the things that are happening in

970
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,760
this world and the things that Jesus said for us to look for.

971
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,120
And he says, occupy till I come.

972
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,800
He is coming back.

973
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:06,840
Our job as pastors, no, our job as Christians is to talk about God as much as we can so

974
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:12,560
people can see there is a loving God that loves them and wants to save them for what's

975
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,920
to come.

976
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Because if we think hell is bad, tribulation is going to be really bad.

977
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,400
And I want to avoid that at all costs.

978
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,960
We need to save that for another show.

979
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,960
We do.

980
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,960
That should be next week.

981
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:29,040
So family, we love you guys, but we do have some kudos that we want to share.

982
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,680
We covered some heavy topics today.

983
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,680
This is big stuff.

984
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,200
But you know what?

985
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,880
The love of God compels us.

986
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And the love of God is what leads us to repentance.

987
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,560
So we want you to be encouraged, not discouraged by this.

988
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,600
I've got some things to share.

989
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,920
We had some boosts this last week.

990
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,520
Adam Curry coming in with a striper boost, of course.

991
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,160
77,777 sats.

992
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,200
He says, Pastor Brian sounded like he's been podcasting all his life.

993
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,700
Loved hearing both of you together.

994
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:05,520
That said, nothing and no one can truly substitute for Dame Annette.

995
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,520
Isn't that sweet?

996
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,520
He said that.

997
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Adam Curry, I love you, brother.

998
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,520
I do too.

999
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,520
I love you, bro.

1000
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,680
He and Tina are our favorite people in this whole wide world.

1001
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,280
Besides our family, obviously.

1002
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,400
So Iris, you remember Iris?

1003
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,380
She is Dutch, and she's a sweetheart.

1004
00:53:23,380 --> 00:53:25,680
She wrote 50,000 sats.

1005
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Beautiful.

1006
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,320
Thank you for your inspiring podcast.

1007
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,800
You guide my thought processes and often help me to deepen my faith.

1008
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,200
So it really was time to boost again.

1009
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,720
And then she says, a word I cannot pronounce, grochies.

1010
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:42,560
It's a Dutch greeting from Iris.

1011
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,920
Iris, thank you so much.

1012
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,920
We love you.

1013
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,100
Good to hear from you.

1014
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:48,320
Thanks for the boost and the note.

1015
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,480
Boober posted a thousand sats.

1016
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,480
Great episode.

1017
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,160
Does Pastor Brian have his own podcast yet?

1018
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,160
I need to share it with Brian.

1019
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,160
I know.

1020
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,160
I think it is good for him to come on here with you every now and then.

1021
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,160
Oh yeah, yeah.

1022
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,160
We've got a lot to talk about.

1023
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Yes.

1024
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,400
We have an uplifting message each and every week.

1025
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,600
Remember that every morning is Easter morning.

1026
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,120
From now on, this was one of my late wife's favorite sayings and songs.

1027
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,120
Robert Ludwig from Nevada, Iowa.

1028
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,440
Robert, thank you so much, brother.

1029
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,040
You're such an encouragement.

1030
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,640
And then Cady Kitt boosted a thousand sats.

1031
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,760
She just said, thank you with praying hands.

1032
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,600
Thank you, Cady Kitt.

1033
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,440
And the last one is My Thrill the Learned boosted a hundred sats.

1034
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,800
It says, I have two links to help supplement this topic.

1035
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,080
One from Dr. Tony Evans and then John Barnett as well.

1036
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,080
Thank you, brother.

1037
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,440
Blessings to all of you.

1038
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,680
Thank you for operating in the spirit of value for value and helping us continue to do this

1039
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,160
program.

1040
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,040
That just tells us that what we're doing helps you and encourages you and you return the

1041
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,040
value.

1042
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,480
Do go to livingupandadownworld.com.

1043
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,360
We would love to hear from you.

1044
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,500
Subscribe and then also send us a note.

1045
00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:58,500
Do a review.

1046
00:54:58,500 --> 00:54:59,500
It's always super helpful.

1047
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:02,500
And we really, really appreciate it.

1048
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:05,500
Well, Daymanette, anything else on the way out?

1049
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:06,500
I think I've said plenty.

1050
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:07,500
Hey, this was your day, your show.

1051
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:08,500
And I love having a free second of it.

1052
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:09,500
Oh, thank you.

1053
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:10,500
It's your show, too.

1054
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:11,500
I love you, baby girl.

1055
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:12,500
Love you, too.

1056
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:13,500
Y'all have an amazing week on purpose.

1057
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:29,600
We are out.