1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,240 You've joined us today. 2 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,440 We are living up in a down world, 3 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,880 at least trying to because the world's pretty heavy, 4 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,720 isn't it, baby? 5 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Yes, and the weather doesn't help anyone. 6 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,140 It's rainy outside. 7 00:00:41,140 --> 00:00:44,020 Rainy and wet and damp and... 8 00:00:44,020 --> 00:00:45,620 I guess that's typical of spring. 9 00:00:45,620 --> 00:00:47,220 It is, but it's very green. 10 00:00:47,220 --> 00:00:50,520 We're finally, last year it was so dry. 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,520 Our trees are blooming. 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Big time, I mean, like overnight, 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,960 all of a sudden they're just beautiful, actually. 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,800 Yes, it is. 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,260 It does have a little Seattle vibe right now 16 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:01,100 because it's that misty. 17 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:01,940 It does feel that way. 18 00:01:01,940 --> 00:01:03,340 Yeah, it's cool, that misty rain. 19 00:01:03,340 --> 00:01:05,400 I never wanted to live in Seattle. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,000 Me either, but we need the rain. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,140 It's all good and you know how it is. 22 00:01:09,140 --> 00:01:12,740 We hit June and sometimes the water faucet just turns off. 23 00:01:12,740 --> 00:01:14,740 Most of the time it turns off. 24 00:01:14,740 --> 00:01:16,580 Over the last few years we've been in drought. 25 00:01:16,580 --> 00:01:18,480 So hopefully, prayerfully, 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,020 and I've heard that we're supposed to have good more. 27 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:23,360 It's supposed to be better this year. 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,680 Yes. 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,420 So, you know, it's always that La Nina, El Nino. 30 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:27,860 I can't ever keep it straight. 31 00:01:27,860 --> 00:01:29,620 So there's always some reason. 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,400 Global warming. 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,220 Global warming. 34 00:01:32,220 --> 00:01:33,060 There it is. 35 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:33,900 Climate change. 36 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:34,740 Wrong. 37 00:01:34,740 --> 00:01:35,560 Buh. 38 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Don't even go there. 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,440 Yeah, I know. 40 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,260 Don't get me started. 41 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:41,100 All right, so yeah, we're glad that you're with us. 42 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:43,680 We're on episode number 58 43 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,100 and man, just rolling right along. 44 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:47,320 We're two days off, 45 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:50,340 but we've decided it looks like for us, 46 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:51,980 Thursdays are gonna be a better day. 47 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:53,240 Do you agree with that? 48 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,080 I think so. 49 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Because it all depends on the construction 50 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,620 that's going on around here. 51 00:01:57,620 --> 00:02:01,120 We had to, we have air conditioning guys 52 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,200 putting a new air conditioner in our sanctuary 53 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,560 in our student room, 54 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,860 which we're right next to the student room. 55 00:02:08,860 --> 00:02:12,360 And they've been up on the roof making so much noise. 56 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,840 We could not do it before. 57 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,600 We finally had to today say, 58 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,640 could you just give us 30 minutes? 59 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:18,840 Just give us 30 minutes. 60 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,440 We're gonna try to record Tuesday 61 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,780 and it sounded like they're playing hopscotch 62 00:02:22,780 --> 00:02:24,440 on top of our roof. 63 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,020 My fear is that they're gonna come through our roof. 64 00:02:27,020 --> 00:02:28,760 I mean, they're not on the roof of the building. 65 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,220 They're on the roof of our office, like literally. 66 00:02:31,220 --> 00:02:34,080 Cause we created a storage room over our office, 67 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,520 like decked it out and everything. 68 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,120 So we have stairs that go up on top, 69 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 which is great unless they're up there dragging 70 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,460 duct work around. 71 00:02:42,460 --> 00:02:45,660 It sounded like a bunch of elephants playing, 72 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:46,840 hopscotch up there. 73 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,200 So it's been hard to work. 74 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,380 I mean, yeah, I've left every day just with my head pinging 75 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:54,380 because of just so much noise. 76 00:02:54,380 --> 00:02:55,480 It's progress. 77 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,980 It's gotta be done. 78 00:02:56,980 --> 00:02:59,220 But it put a big kink in us trying to record. 79 00:02:59,220 --> 00:03:01,140 There was no way we could record the podcast. 80 00:03:01,140 --> 00:03:03,520 And next week they're doing all the drywall. 81 00:03:04,420 --> 00:03:06,620 Now those guys, they come in and they get it done. 82 00:03:06,620 --> 00:03:07,880 It's not the same team. 83 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,160 I know, but they're good. 84 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Oh. Yeah. 85 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,660 So anyway, we'll see. 86 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:14,800 So we can't guarantee when our next podcast 87 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,100 is gonna come out. 88 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:18,400 Cause we're subject to all of this that's going on. 89 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,260 So it is what it is. 90 00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:23,260 I would say the end of April will be done 91 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:25,040 with all this over here. 92 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,300 April. 93 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:28,540 Well, I mean, I'm just giving it extra weeks 94 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:31,440 cause I know how it is with contractors. 95 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,780 It does take a little time. 96 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:36,220 But the big stuff, the banging, all that stuff, 97 00:03:36,220 --> 00:03:38,720 that's gonna be done like in the next few days. 98 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,160 So I mean, the big stuff. 99 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,760 We can work around some drills and sheetrock, 100 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,200 guys doing drywall and stuff. 101 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,460 That's not a big deal. 102 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:49,360 But anyway, if you do hear a bang or whatever 103 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,000 somebody walks in, it just is what it is. 104 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,300 We're in the middle of construction. 105 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:56,660 So we've got yellow tape on stuff, everything, 106 00:03:56,660 --> 00:03:58,400 caution, construction zone. 107 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,900 It's like, so we're in the middle of that. 108 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:02,500 But again, it's progress. 109 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:03,480 It's all good. 110 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,640 It's just, it's kind of like when they do the interstate, 111 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,880 they do road work. 112 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,580 Everybody hates it while they're doing it. 113 00:04:09,580 --> 00:04:11,020 And they're always complaining. 114 00:04:11,020 --> 00:04:14,120 But when it's done, you got four lanes instead of two. 115 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,260 I mean, it's smooth, everything's clean and neat. 116 00:04:17,260 --> 00:04:19,720 I mean, everybody's, I'm so glad they did that. 117 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,020 They were complaining for three years. 118 00:04:22,020 --> 00:04:23,760 Or five years, however long it takes. 119 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,200 So anyways, kind of that for us. 120 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,640 So glad you joined us today. 121 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,000 We want you to be encouraged. 122 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,300 And we are, I mean, we're having a, 123 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,440 it's just been an amazing few weeks for us 124 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,480 in the things of the kingdom of God. 125 00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:40,220 God's just doing amazing things, 126 00:04:40,220 --> 00:04:41,820 connecting the dots for us, 127 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:46,120 connecting us with people that we just never knew, 128 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,480 never thought we'd be connected with. 129 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,520 We got invited to go to Mar-a-Lago out in Florida. 130 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,420 Which is Thursday, which is why we can't record next week. 131 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:56,660 On Thursday. 132 00:04:56,660 --> 00:04:58,200 We'll have to do what we can 133 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,800 to try to get it done Tuesday or Wednesday. 134 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,440 So it's gonna be one of those. 135 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,260 We can. 136 00:05:02,260 --> 00:05:03,600 I don't think so with the... 137 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,000 I'm gonna be, I'm the living up... 138 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:05,980 You can be positive. 139 00:05:05,980 --> 00:05:10,180 I just know if there's only one guy doing the drywall, 140 00:05:10,180 --> 00:05:11,740 there's a lot of drywall. 141 00:05:11,740 --> 00:05:12,780 We'll see. 142 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:14,020 We'll see. 143 00:05:14,020 --> 00:05:14,920 I'm gonna say we're gonna get it done. 144 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,080 We will figure it out. 145 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,720 Well, if not, it's because we're at Mar-a-Lago at an event 146 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,320 that we did get invited to and we're very excited. 147 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,820 We're only gonna be gone one night. 148 00:05:25,820 --> 00:05:27,820 It's a quick trip. 149 00:05:27,820 --> 00:05:30,660 Who wants to go to Florida for one day? 150 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:33,560 Do you want me to turn it down? 151 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,900 No, no, I'm glad. 152 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:37,600 It's just, if it wasn't Easter, 153 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,940 we would just plan to stay over for several days 154 00:05:40,940 --> 00:05:44,240 and enjoy the beach and the beautiful weather there. 155 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,080 This is a quick trip. 156 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,520 We fly down on Thursday. 157 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,480 We'll be going with the Currys. 158 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,320 No. 159 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,460 No, just Tina. 160 00:05:52,460 --> 00:05:54,380 Adam is doing his No Agenda show, 161 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:56,520 so he can't go with us, but Tina will be with us. 162 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,560 We'll be going with the Youngs. 163 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,760 And Dawn and yeah, just several people. 164 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Lara Logan, her husband Joe. 165 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,660 So we'll all be kind of traveling sorted together. 166 00:06:05,660 --> 00:06:08,700 We're all being in the same plane and heading that way. 167 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:10,840 And it's kind of, I think we're all sitting together. 168 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:11,680 Well. 169 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,500 Have a table or whatever. 170 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:13,340 Yes, yes, we're at the same table. 171 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:14,940 It's gonna be a wild ride. 172 00:06:14,940 --> 00:06:18,480 So we leave Thursday, the event, it's a black tie event. 173 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,780 So we're like, I'm in a tuxedo. 174 00:06:19,780 --> 00:06:22,780 We get in at 2.30 and we have to be at the event at six. 175 00:06:22,780 --> 00:06:25,280 So yeah, so we'll just have a quick turnaround 176 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:30,060 and throw on our tuxes and dresses and then get there. 177 00:06:30,060 --> 00:06:31,760 And it'll be a whirlwind night. 178 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,560 I mean, Trump's gonna be there. 179 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,860 I mean, it's gonna be Vivek Ramaswamy. 180 00:06:36,860 --> 00:06:38,360 If I have to said that anywhere near, right? 181 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,260 Vivek, right? 182 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:40,200 Or Vivek. 183 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,260 I've heard it umpteen different ways. 184 00:06:42,260 --> 00:06:43,540 General Flynn will be there. 185 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:44,940 Yeah, Michael Flynn will be there. 186 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:46,040 It's gonna be interesting. 187 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,980 And it's a premiere of a couple of shows, 188 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:51,080 two shows back to back, two movies 189 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,980 developed by the same people. 190 00:06:53,980 --> 00:06:56,480 And it's gonna be interesting, fascinating. 191 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,680 We'll talk more about it when we get back, 192 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,860 but I don't wanna drag it out, 193 00:06:58,860 --> 00:07:00,480 but it's gonna be interesting. 194 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,620 But those are the kind of opportunities. 195 00:07:01,620 --> 00:07:04,020 Things are just coming up to us that are, 196 00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:05,320 we don't generate the waves, 197 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,600 we just catch them when they come. 198 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,920 And so as waves are coming by, 199 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,400 we're just riding them and enjoying revival. 200 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,100 We're in revival. 201 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:14,900 Full blown, God's showing up, 202 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:18,000 lives being changed, people being saved, 203 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,080 people coming alive, they're awakening. 204 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,180 Always say, we're not awoke, we're awake. 205 00:07:23,180 --> 00:07:25,520 That's the name of a message. 206 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,740 I see it, I see it. 207 00:07:26,740 --> 00:07:28,080 Awoke or awake. 208 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,780 Actually, the Sunday after Easter, 209 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:31,620 I'm gonna do a message called Awoke. 210 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:32,460 You're gonna do it? 211 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:34,260 Awoke, not awake. 212 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:35,080 No. 213 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,260 No. 214 00:07:36,260 --> 00:07:37,720 Awoke or awake. 215 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Yeah, it's a question. 216 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,160 Awoke or awake. 217 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,300 Yeah, my bad. 218 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:42,620 Which you're not awoke. 219 00:07:42,620 --> 00:07:44,400 Let's just clear that up right now. 220 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Not at all. 221 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,660 Not at all. 222 00:07:46,660 --> 00:07:48,800 So anyway, so that'll be after Easter, 223 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,700 then Easter's coming up. 224 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:50,940 That's always huge. 225 00:07:50,940 --> 00:07:52,900 It's a Super Bowl for churches. 226 00:07:52,900 --> 00:07:55,480 And you're gonna take a little different spin than normal. 227 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Yeah, I'm doing a message called Hidden in Plain Sight. 228 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,520 And I'm gonna talk a lot about Jesus, 229 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,080 how after he was crucified 230 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,280 and then he was resurrected between that and the ascension, 231 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,320 he made all these appearances to people 232 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,560 and they didn't recognize him. 233 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,860 There were people who walked with him for three years. 234 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:14,500 And they didn't recognize him. 235 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:16,400 He was hidden in plain sight. 236 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,440 But I'm also a little more fraught out of that 237 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,160 into the platform of there's a lot of stuff going on 238 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,840 in our world that's hidden in plain sight. 239 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,240 That's nefarious, dark, cultural attacks, 240 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,240 political warfare, psyops, psychological warfare. 241 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:33,640 There's a lot of things happening 242 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,020 and the enemy is also hidden in plain sight. 243 00:08:36,020 --> 00:08:38,980 And I'm gonna do my best to expose him on Easter 244 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:40,660 in front of a lot of new people who'll be there. 245 00:08:40,660 --> 00:08:43,560 We're expecting, we're praying for a thousand people 246 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:45,160 for Sunday, that Sunday. 247 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,360 We've been running between six and 650. 248 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,260 So we believe that's a reasonable BHAG prayer goal. 249 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:54,840 And if you're wondering what a BHAG is. 250 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,940 I think you need to change it to BHAP. 251 00:08:56,940 --> 00:08:58,640 BHAP, we can do that. 252 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,400 But I said BHAG, because that's a known thing, 253 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,040 not by everybody, but some people know. 254 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,440 I never heard of it until you brought it up. 255 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,280 And people come up to me and go, 256 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,040 oh yeah, I remember talking about BHAGs. 257 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,380 It means big, hairy, audacious goal. 258 00:09:10,380 --> 00:09:11,720 So a BHAG is a big, hairy. 259 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,920 But if we're gonna use it in the context of prayer, 260 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,620 it needs to be BHAP. 261 00:09:16,620 --> 00:09:19,420 BHAP, big, hairy, audacious prayer. 262 00:09:19,420 --> 00:09:21,900 Cause that's what we're talking about, not just a goal. 263 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:24,300 Now I'm gonna change the cover art for this episode. 264 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:25,500 I just did it. 265 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:26,400 Well then change it. 266 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,240 I can change it. 267 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,240 I think it needs to be changed. 268 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,080 BHAP. 269 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:29,900 BHAP. 270 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:30,740 That doesn't. 271 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:31,580 BHAG sounds- 272 00:09:31,580 --> 00:09:32,400 That's like be happy. 273 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,340 Well, but someone told us HAG had a bad connotation. 274 00:09:36,340 --> 00:09:41,340 Some school, some cultural, it's a derogatory term or something. 275 00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:43,380 Okay, BHAP. 276 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:44,220 BHAP. 277 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:45,820 Big, hairy, audacious prayer. 278 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:46,660 Prayer. 279 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:47,480 There you go. 280 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,320 Boy, we're doing that. 281 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaking of BHAPs, 282 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,520 let's talk a little bit about what our topic is today. 283 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,900 Cause we feel very strong that we wanna encourage you 284 00:09:57,900 --> 00:09:59,400 in your prayer life. 285 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,200 A lot of people struggle with having a prayer life. 286 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,440 Why do you think that is? 287 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,280 I mean- 288 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,900 They, a lot of times we get, 289 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,680 we have a prayer need. 290 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:13,920 We bring it before God. 291 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,680 He doesn't answer it the way we want it. 292 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:19,580 So we give up on prayer. 293 00:10:19,580 --> 00:10:20,960 I'll never forget. 294 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,960 And you told this story in church on Sunday, 295 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,560 but I'm gonna tell my perspective. 296 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,320 We had a woman in our church, 297 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:35,340 very highly intense woman who had so much faith 298 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:37,640 to believe for anything. 299 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,740 I mean, I had never met anybody with more faith 300 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:43,000 than this woman named Kathy. 301 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,980 And she began to have some symptoms, 302 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,520 health issues in her body. 303 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,580 And someone, she was a principal of a school 304 00:10:52,580 --> 00:10:54,480 and someone in the school encouraged her 305 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,660 to go to the doctor, 306 00:10:55,660 --> 00:10:58,080 and she just kept praying and praying and praying. 307 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,720 Cause she's a woman of faith. 308 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,460 She finally ended up going to the doctor 309 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:04,100 and they found out that she was riddled with cancer 310 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:04,920 all over her body. 311 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,940 It had just, I'm not sure where it started, 312 00:11:10,940 --> 00:11:13,140 but it ended up in her whole body. 313 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,740 And she, I don't know that she could have taken treatment 314 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:20,040 at the time because it was too far gone. 315 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:20,880 I think she was- 316 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,040 I think that was my understanding. 317 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,720 In the late stages of stage four. 318 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,540 Yeah. 319 00:11:24,540 --> 00:11:26,620 And, but she would come into church. 320 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:30,520 We watched her just become emaciated. 321 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,300 I mean, she was not the woman we knew 322 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:36,820 who was vibrant, beautiful, just, 323 00:11:36,820 --> 00:11:39,500 but her faith never waned. 324 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,800 That was the most beautiful thing I ever seen. 325 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,800 She, as a woman, we watched her body disintegrate, 326 00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:50,640 but her faith just rise. 327 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,880 And which I hear that happens a lot 328 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,320 with people who are about to pass, 329 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,960 but her faith was that God was gonna make her well. 330 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,800 And her faith was strong even before this happened. 331 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,000 She was always a warrior. 332 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,040 Always a warrior. 333 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:04,860 Strong in God. 334 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:05,700 Yes. 335 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:08,080 And so she would come into church. 336 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,120 She finally got to the point where she was in a wheelchair 337 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,800 and she would come in 338 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,820 and we would immediately want to pray for her 339 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:16,480 and we would pray. 340 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,480 But then the tables turned 341 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,160 towards the last probably six months of her life 342 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,820 where every week she would come in 343 00:12:22,820 --> 00:12:24,600 and she'd say, I don't need prayer. 344 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,500 I want you to pray. 345 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:27,120 I want to pray for you. 346 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,120 And so she would pray for our staff pastors all the time. 347 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,540 I mean, just consistently 348 00:12:35,540 --> 00:12:37,140 because she said, no, I'm good. 349 00:12:37,140 --> 00:12:38,320 God's got this. 350 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,280 God's gonna heal me. 351 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,840 And that was really remarkable to me 352 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,960 that she could have so much faith for other people. 353 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,140 And she believed that God was gonna heal her. 354 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:52,720 So she didn't want prayer anymore. 355 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,800 She wanted to pray for us. 356 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,540 Well, I think I know why God wanted her to pray for us. 357 00:12:59,540 --> 00:13:02,200 If you really think about what happened 358 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,800 because a few months later she passed 359 00:13:05,780 --> 00:13:07,880 and that was one of the hardest funerals 360 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,060 you've ever had to do. 361 00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:12,000 I remember, I don't think I could go. 362 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,560 I think I got sick. 363 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:14,400 Is that the one that I got sick? 364 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,320 I think you're right. 365 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,160 You weren't there. 366 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,200 I don't recall. 367 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,880 There was a couple of funerals that I could not attend. 368 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,880 But I remember us just talking about it as a couple 369 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,320 about God not healing her the way we wanted. 370 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,320 And it literally, it caused us to regress in our faith. 371 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:40,240 Yeah, let's tell it like it is. 372 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,080 It wrecked us. 373 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,000 It wrecked us. 374 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 It shipwrecked our faith for a season. 375 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,040 You told the church it was a few weeks, 376 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,940 but it was a lot longer. 377 00:13:47,940 --> 00:13:48,780 I think- 378 00:13:48,780 --> 00:13:50,960 I wouldn't in the weeds with the details on timing. 379 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,960 I just remember it devastated us. 380 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,640 Because we were so disappointed in God. 381 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,120 We got to the point where we didn't even wanna pray 382 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,200 for healing because- 383 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,640 Or for anything in terms of anything that's bigger 384 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,560 than what's around us in the natural or that we could do. 385 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:13,280 Anything beyond what's natural. 386 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,480 We were afraid to pray for anything supernatural, 387 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,040 anything big. 388 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,240 So, BHAP was out of the question. 389 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,000 Big, hairy, audacious prayers weren't even in the equation. 390 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,800 And we didn't have the faith to believe. 391 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,240 And I think looking back now, hindsight is 20-20, 392 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,600 looking back now, that's probably why 393 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,640 God had her pray for us. 394 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Probably right. 395 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Because that was gonna happen to us. 396 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,600 But thank God we came out of that. 397 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,460 And what happened is we realized she did get healed. 398 00:14:46,460 --> 00:14:47,920 She is whole. 399 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,160 She's better than she was. 400 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Because God healed her just not in the way we wanted. 401 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,200 We wanted her to be here for her family. 402 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,980 We actually saw her family spin out. 403 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:00,680 They literally walked away- 404 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,520 Yeah, it was terrible. 405 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,340 From the Lord. 406 00:15:02,340 --> 00:15:04,240 I'm praying they came back. 407 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,200 I don't, we don't know. 408 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,920 We've left since then. 409 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,960 But I think the thing that I've learned 410 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,400 throughout that experience is that, 411 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,400 and you say this a lot, 412 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,760 we pray like it depends on us, 413 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,480 but we believe like it depends on God. 414 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,320 Because it does. 415 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Because it does. 416 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,540 And I think that's why we could start praying 417 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:33,000 for people again and start believing for people. 418 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,220 Because even though we're praying, we want them alive. 419 00:15:37,220 --> 00:15:39,960 We want them alive on this earth. 420 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,200 We have to leave it in God's hands. 421 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,920 And I do hate it when people say, 422 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,320 well, God just needed them more than we did. 423 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,720 God needed another angel in heaven. 424 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,560 That's not- 425 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,380 It's not even- 426 00:15:50,380 --> 00:15:51,220 It's not even scriptural. 427 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:52,060 That's theologically whacked. 428 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:53,360 Yes, it's not biblical at all. 429 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,320 It's a sentiment. 430 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,160 It's a sentiment. 431 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,560 We say things sometimes to try to make us feel better. 432 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,880 But I don't want to feel better. 433 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,600 I want to be accurate with truth. 434 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,360 So in biblical truth, and it's not that- 435 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 His ways, the Bible says his ways- 436 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,560 I was literally thinking that line. 437 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,600 Really are higher than ours. 438 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Yeah. 439 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,440 And so we can't determine everything 440 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,640 about what God thinks or says. 441 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,680 All we know is what we have in the word, 442 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,200 but his word says his ways are higher. 443 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,080 Think about it, Annette. 444 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,520 That's absolutely true. 445 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,440 I was thinking the exact same line. 446 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,360 So great minds think alike, all right? 447 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,960 And you're beautiful today, by the way. 448 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Oh, thank you. 449 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,040 So I was actually thinking though, 450 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,320 in terms of, Ka, I distracted myself 451 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,160 with your beauty right there. 452 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,000 Oh, stop. 453 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:40,820 Just totally threw me off. 454 00:16:40,820 --> 00:16:42,480 Oh, stop. 455 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,240 Gosh, I can't even remember what I was going to say. 456 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,600 Literally, I got distracted. 457 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,440 You're gorgeous. 458 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Oh my gosh. 459 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,100 Yeah, I'm sorry. 460 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:49,920 No, don't do that. 461 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,400 You're so funny. 462 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,760 But his ways are- 463 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,080 I'm trying to help you with your thought process. 464 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,440 Yeah, maybe I'll recover it, maybe not. 465 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Oh my gosh, you're so funny. 466 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,760 But I think I am so glad 467 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,600 that we were able to come to that realization 468 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,840 that we could pray again, 469 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,560 we could believe, we could believe in faith. 470 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,880 So many people do. 471 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,040 I've heard this before in the past. 472 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,240 You didn't have enough faith. 473 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,080 That's why- 474 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,920 Oh, that's a horrible thing. 475 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,720 You didn't get healed, or the person you prayed for. 476 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:21,560 That's just dumb. 477 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,080 Again, unbiblical. 478 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,920 Jesus does talk about ye of little faith, 479 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,520 but it's in a whole different context. 480 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,640 That doesn't mean we have to have, 481 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,240 I mean, he says we only need faith of a mustard seed. 482 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,040 The fact that we even pray to God is faith. 483 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,860 Exactly. 484 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:42,560 Because you're believing that there's a God to pray for. 485 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,720 Somebody's listening, right? 486 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,540 Exactly. 487 00:17:44,540 --> 00:17:48,000 So to me, that's off too. 488 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,640 But one of your points that I love that you made 489 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,440 is God did not design prayer to put a burden on us. 490 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,280 He designed prayer to take the burden off of us. 491 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,280 And a lot of times we pray out of this, oh God. 492 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,360 You know- 493 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:07,560 Burden, we're laboring. 494 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,400 We're laboring. 495 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,520 Struggling in prayer. 496 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,360 Or- 497 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:11,200 Wrestling with God. 498 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,520 I keep having to pray for the same thing. 499 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Well, if we give it to God, then it's not a burden, 500 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:17,820 because it's his burden. 501 00:18:17,820 --> 00:18:19,680 So what we do is we remind God. 502 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,120 This is kind of the way I pray. 503 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:24,320 I remind God of my prayers. 504 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,920 I thank you, Lord, that you know what I've been praying for. 505 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,480 I'm praying right now for certain family members 506 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,520 and our family that have walked away from God, 507 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,960 that need God. 508 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,560 And so every day, it's not a burden to pray for them. 509 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,920 It's a privilege, because he takes the burden from me 510 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,760 so that I'm not overextending myself 511 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,960 in long bouts of prayer over it, because he's got it. 512 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,280 And I know he does, and I know he's gonna come through. 513 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,760 That's so good. 514 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,680 I was thinking of a scripture I read this morning. 515 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,440 I was reading in Psalm 139. 516 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,240 That was just really, really washing over. 517 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,600 It says, you search out my path and my lying down 518 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,880 and are acquainted with all my ways. 519 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,440 And he says, even before a word is on my tongue, 520 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,640 behold, oh Lord, you know it altogether. 521 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,480 Wow. 522 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,320 See, he knows our prayer. 523 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,160 Before I even say it. 524 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 He knows our needs before we even ask. 525 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,640 What a powerful statement. 526 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,200 Before it's even on my tongue, before I even say it, 527 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,000 he already knows that. 528 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,560 You know it altogether. 529 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,400 But it doesn't mean we... 530 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,240 That just hit me hard this morning. 531 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,640 It doesn't, and some people take that, 532 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,720 well then I don't need to pray if he already knows. 533 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,080 No, we pray for ourself. 534 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,920 We pray... 535 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,760 Of course. 536 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,360 Because it's part of our relationship with God. 537 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:41,480 It's a conversation. 538 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,440 Prayer is a conversation, not a monologue. 539 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,480 It would be like me saying, I'm never gonna tell you 540 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,800 I love you because you know it. 541 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,560 So why would I tell you? 542 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,360 And then I would start to not know it. 543 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:53,520 Exactly. I would start to wonder, 544 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,440 okay, wow, she's not even said anything. 545 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,440 Because a relationship is not a monologue. 546 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,360 And so to me, you have to have a dialogue 547 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:07,120 between the person that you have the relationship 548 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:07,960 within yourself. 549 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,780 So think of it this way. 550 00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:12,200 Prayer should not be a weight that you're carrying around. 551 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,920 Remember he says, come to me all who are weary 552 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,480 and heavy laden, I'll give you rest for my yoke is easy. 553 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,440 And my burden is light. 554 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,240 But we turn it into this ball and chain. 555 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,600 I'm somehow carrying the weight of the world. 556 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,200 So I'm praying for the nation. 557 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,440 I'm praying that our nation, that God will right the ship. 558 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,120 I'm praying that no longer will wrong be right 559 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,520 and right be wrong and up be down and down be up. 560 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,200 Because everything's upside down right now. 561 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,360 Absolutely. 562 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,520 But I don't labor in it as though I'm carrying it 563 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,480 or that it depends on me. 564 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,600 This is where trust comes in. 565 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,560 I feel like when I'm praying a prayer like that, 566 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,160 instead of carrying a burden, 567 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,040 I'm just simply aligning with the revealed will of God. 568 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,200 Because don't you believe that it's his will for our nation 569 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,320 to walk in accordance with the biblical foundations 570 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,800 with which our founding fathers founded the nation? 571 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,200 Founded it on the word of God, 572 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,160 founded on conservative biblical morals, principles, values? 573 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Of course, I mean, God's mentioned four times 574 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,600 just in the declaration of independence 575 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,100 was a very short document, all about his providence, 576 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:24,100 all about his as our creator and these unalienable rights 577 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,340 that we have, all of that is there, 578 00:21:27,340 --> 00:21:30,780 which means when we pray for our nation to be made right, 579 00:21:30,780 --> 00:21:33,200 or we pray for a person to be made right, 580 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,720 or we pray for the salvation of somebody, 581 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,200 we can trust that that is his will. 582 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,040 We're in alignment with him. 583 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,400 And that brings confidence, 584 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,060 but it also takes the burden off. 585 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:47,600 So how do you handle people who say, 586 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,480 but I'm an intercessor? 587 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,200 Yay, we love intercessors. 588 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,280 So how can I not have a burden for what I'm praying for? 589 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,200 Well, it depends on what you mean by burden. 590 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,040 There you go, that's what I want you to bring up. 591 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,400 If you're looking at the definition of burden, 592 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,840 that it is a weight. 593 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,680 It's like a pack mule carrying, 594 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,800 they weigh this animal down or a camel, 595 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,640 they weigh them down and they're bearing the burden. 596 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,000 But I think in biblical intercession, 597 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,280 we're not bearing the burden, 598 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,720 we're simply offloading the burden to God. 599 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,560 To God. 600 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,800 We stand in between the issue and God, 601 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,280 that's to intercede means to be in the middle, enter. 602 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,600 Enter in the middle. 603 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,760 And so we're in between, so we take that, but we offload it. 604 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,880 We don't carry it, we don't keep it. 605 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000 We simply present it to God and then we let it go. 606 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,120 And I think that's one of the things I've seen 607 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:40,920 where people can't let it go. 608 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,520 That's a more character issue than a personal issue 609 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,720 and a mental issue than it is, that's the mind war, 610 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,320 than it is an actual issue because that's not 611 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,280 what we see in scripture. 612 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,480 He says, bring it to me and then let it go. 613 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,880 And then it even says this, 614 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,720 that the Holy Spirit makes intercession for us 615 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,360 before the throne of God. 616 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,440 And with groanings too deep for, I mean, 617 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,960 he's saying, he's got this. 618 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,760 He's interceding, he's our intercessor. 619 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,120 And so what happens is, we feel responsible for things. 620 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,480 We're fix it people, all of us are, we wanna fix stuff. 621 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,520 So we think we need to bring our burden to God, 622 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,280 then tell God how to fix it. 623 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,240 Because not only do we pray, I brought this up on Sunday, 624 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,000 not only we pray to God and say, 625 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,600 Lord, we present this to you, then we say, 626 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,760 and here's how you should fix it. 627 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Here's my criteria for the answering of this prayer. 628 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,160 Because we know best. 629 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,000 And then what happens when it doesn't happen 630 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,840 the way I aligned it out to God. 631 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,240 Then we're disappointed in God. 632 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240 As though he failed us. 633 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,360 Or he didn't answer, or he doesn't hear our prayers, 634 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,200 which is false. 635 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,440 So we've gotta get to the point as believers 636 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,440 where we can trust him and we can pray to him. 637 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,600 We can pray on behalf of other people, 638 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,720 on behalf of ourself, and then let it go and say, 639 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,440 God, okay, this is yours. 640 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,520 Now it doesn't mean we don't keep praying, 641 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,360 because it says pray and keep praying. 642 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:11,520 Oh, absolutely. 643 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,120 Yeah, can I read the scripture? 644 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,320 Pray unceasingly, yes. 645 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,600 This is out of Matthew chapter seven, seven and eight, 646 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,200 verse seven and eight, out of the amplified version. 647 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,760 Keep on asking and it will be given you. 648 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,400 Notice, keep on. 649 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,240 Keep on seeking and you will find. 650 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,280 Keep on knocking and the door will be open to you. 651 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,800 For everyone who keeps on asking receives, 652 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,120 and he who keeps on seeking finds. 653 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:40,120 And to him who keeps on knocking, the door will be opened. 654 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,600 But that's also in context to receiving the Holy Spirit, 655 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,440 right? 656 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,280 There, actually, there's different versions 657 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,800 of this in the gospel. 658 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,280 One is that your heavenly father 659 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,440 knows how to give you good things. 660 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,520 The other one is the heavenly father 661 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,680 knows how to give you the Holy Spirit when you ask. 662 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,440 So there's several different implications to that, 663 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,320 but the principle is the same for everything. 664 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,560 We're to ask and keep on asking, not keep on knocking. 665 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,600 Seek, keep on seeking. 666 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,920 But it doesn't mean we're seeking 667 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800 as though we don't believe God's gonna do it. 668 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,880 This is how Jesus taught us to pray. 669 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,400 He says, when you pray, say, and this is what you do. 670 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,120 And so to me, it's like, let's lean into that, 671 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,240 but it doesn't mean that I carry the weight 672 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,360 and the gravity of it. 673 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,600 We're not, we're not beasts of burden. 674 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,160 There's nowhere, no one ever said in their life, 675 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,760 hey, grab that sheep over there. 676 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,720 We're about to go up a mountain and I need that sheep 677 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,720 to carry all of our equipment. 678 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,560 You know, sheep are not pack meals. 679 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,720 Sheep are actually quite fragile. 680 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,160 And I know that by experience 681 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,200 and being around sheep personally, not just church people. 682 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,720 I mean, real sheep, literal sheep. 683 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,880 They're fragile animals. 684 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,560 People that aren't in church that are hearing this 685 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,840 don't understand what you just said. 686 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,480 So the Bible refers to believers, followers of God, 687 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,920 followers of Jesus as sheep, a flock of sheep 688 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,920 over and over and over. 689 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,840 And I'm an under shepherd. 690 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,520 Jesus is the great shepherd, but I'm a shepherd 691 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,840 because I'm called a pastor. 692 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,200 That's my role. 693 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,000 And so I shepherd a flock here in Fredericksburg, Texas. 694 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,080 And so, but never once ever will you hear anyone 695 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,400 ever in history say, okay, we're gonna make this trek 696 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,240 up through the mountain. 697 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,040 So get the sheep together 698 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,440 because they're gonna bear the weight of it. 699 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,280 They can't. 700 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,120 They can't, no. 701 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,240 And by design, I mean, 702 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,080 the sheep is not a weight-bearing animal. 703 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,240 That's a great illustration. 704 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,000 Think about us. 705 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,800 We're not called to bear the weight. 706 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,720 That's why we're, he says that, 707 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,560 let me put it this way to you. 708 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,160 It says, be anxious for nothing. 709 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,920 This is in Philippians chapter four, verses six and seven. 710 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,960 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything. 711 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,160 Someone say everything. 712 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,800 Now you're being a preacher. 713 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,480 I have to, because I want to reiterate that word, 714 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,280 everything, not some things. 715 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,320 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything, 716 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,480 by prayer and supplication. 717 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Supplication is a fancy word for a petition. 718 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,520 You put it before God. 719 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,040 With gratitude, with thanksgiving, 720 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,640 let your requests be made known to God. 721 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,800 He just says, bring it to me. 722 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000 And the peace of God, this is verse seven, 723 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,680 which passes all understanding will guard your hearts 724 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,920 and minds through Christ Jesus. 725 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Here's another way to say that. 726 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560 If you will pray about everything, 727 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,200 you'll be anxious for no thing. 728 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,040 I love that. 729 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,320 And who doesn't want to offload anxiety? 730 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080 Come on, we live in a world of stress. 731 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,080 It's unbelievable how many people are on anxiety, 732 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,000 anti-anxiety medication. 733 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,360 Devastating. 734 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,080 It's really affecting, I mean, 735 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,080 most teens these days are on anti-anxiety medication. 736 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,720 And we just have such a lack for understanding 737 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,720 who God is and what He wants to do in our lives. 738 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,440 And how He feels about us. 739 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Listen to this out of Psalm 145. 740 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,480 The Lord is near to all who call on Him, 741 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,760 to all who call on Him in truth. 742 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,040 Verse 19, He fulfills the desires of those who fear Him. 743 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,280 That means reverence, who reverence, who see Him in awe. 744 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,000 He hears their cry and saves them. 745 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,560 That's how God feels about us. 746 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,320 But we're afraid to approach Him 747 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,640 because He's like the great Oz in the Wizard of Oz. 748 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,920 Fearful, flames, fire, booming voice. 749 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:35,760 And at the end of the day, 750 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,440 when Toto pulled the curtain back, 751 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,400 Oz was nothing more than a man opera. 752 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,200 I mean, he was just, he wasn't that. 753 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,080 That's not God. 754 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,440 God loves us and God cares. 755 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,640 And He wants us to bring our prayers to Him, 756 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,720 bring our requests. 757 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Not in fear. 758 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,160 It's that peace that surpasses all understanding. 759 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,280 It's a promise. 760 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,280 He wants to, for us to accept His gift, 761 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,680 His gift of salvation, His gift of peace, of hope, of joy. 762 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Yeah, beautiful. 763 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,960 So one last point before we go, 764 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,080 because we're only on the plane, 765 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840 but people don't spend time in prayer. 766 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,160 And here's why. 767 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440 It's because they don't believe it really works. 768 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Well, and that's the way we had become. 769 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Yeah, we fell into that. 770 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,840 We fell into the trap. 771 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,880 For a while, first season, 772 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,080 because we were angry. 773 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,040 And that's again, another reason why people 774 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,160 don't spend time in prayer. 775 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,360 They're angry with God. 776 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,240 They're disappointed. 777 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,120 Right, disappointed. 778 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,400 That's a great word. 779 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440 I would even, anger may be true, 780 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,960 but I would think disappointment 781 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,240 and disillusionment are more accurate. 782 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,320 We just disappointed because we prayed 783 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,080 and nothing happened. 784 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,720 Or we thought nothing happened. 785 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,080 I love the story you told about Daniel. 786 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Tell that story because that was powerful. 787 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,720 All right. 788 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,560 Powerful. 789 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,480 That's based on this point. 790 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Your prayers move and shift things 791 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,520 in the heavenly and spiritual realms on earth 792 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,440 as it is in heaven to reflect back 793 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,280 to the Lord's model prayer. 794 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,880 And where Jesus said, your kingdom come, 795 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,120 your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 796 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,360 So Daniel was a prophet and his nation at that time, 797 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,440 his people, God's people were in captivity. 798 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,760 They were under oppression. 799 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,120 You think it's bad here? 800 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,600 This is just nothing compared to what they were going through. 801 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,320 Many of them were enslaved. 802 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,240 They were taxed 80 to 90% of their goods. 803 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,080 I mean, it was- 804 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Oh, they were socialist country. 805 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,080 Exactly, worse. 806 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,200 More like Mao, Trans Maoism. 807 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,440 But anyway, it was terrible. 808 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,480 And he's crying out to God for a vision 809 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,960 and God gives him a vision. 810 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,280 And he was praying. 811 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,080 He'd been praying and fasting for 21 days, 812 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,080 three weeks and nothing. 813 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,840 So he's crying out on behalf of God's people. 814 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Crickets, he thinks God's not even listening. 815 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,520 Exactly, where is God now? 816 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,600 When we need you the most, you're not there. 817 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,080 And a messenger, the Bible calls it a messenger. 818 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280 Well, the same word used for angels, 819 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,560 same word used for messenger. 820 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,400 That's what it means. 821 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,920 An angel is a messenger from God. 822 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,520 So an angel of the Lord came. 823 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,880 So this guy shows up and Daniel goes into a wild description 824 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,160 of what he looks like in the verses, 825 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,360 but he shows up and what happens is he says, 826 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,600 Daniel, your prayers were heard the first time you prayed. 827 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,520 Wow. 828 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,880 The first time. 829 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Three weeks ago. 830 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,560 Not three weeks. 831 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,320 21 days ago, your prayers were heard. 832 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,000 He says this, let me just read it to you 833 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,240 out of the book of Daniel. 834 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,080 Then he continued, the messenger, he said to Daniel, 835 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920 do not be afraid Daniel, since the first day 836 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,800 that you set your mind to gain understanding 837 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,360 and to humble yourself before your God, 838 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,560 your words were heard. 839 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,200 Man, we need to lock that in. 840 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,200 That really just rang like a symbol in my ears. 841 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,920 You mean like a bomb just went off? 842 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Like a bomb went off. 843 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,320 Thunder in your soul. 844 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,480 Because we can read scripture. 845 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,240 We've read through the Bible many times. 846 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,360 But there's sometimes when something just comes up 847 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,240 off the page that you've read it a million times, 848 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,760 but you didn't really let it see. 849 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,800 There's a word for that. 850 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,480 It's called revelation. 851 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,800 And boy, when you said that, it was like, wow. 852 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,400 He says, from the first time you set your mind 853 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,360 to gain understanding, to humble yourself before your God, 854 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,720 your words were heard. 855 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,560 I love that. 856 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,200 That just resonates with me. 857 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,360 And I have come in response to them. 858 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,960 So he shows up, this messenger, 859 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,200 but he tells him something interesting, the next verse. 860 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,960 But the prince of the Persian kingdom 861 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,120 resisted me 21 days. 862 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,000 The prince of the Persian kingdom is a demonic force 863 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,680 over a region. 864 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,520 Biblically, it's called a principality. 865 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,400 A principality is over cities. 866 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,680 They're over regions. 867 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,080 Demons, angels, there's hierarchies of authority. 868 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760 If they believe there's a God, but not there's a devil, 869 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,440 they're totally misled. 870 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,120 They're not just missing 50%. 871 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,480 They've already lost the war. 872 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,400 If you don't believe that's real, 873 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,520 that demons are real, that there's a real Satan, 874 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,160 who I've named, nicknamed Nefarious, 875 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,600 if you don't believe that, you've already lost. 876 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,320 You're already in defensive mode. 877 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,720 You're already being whooped. 878 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,640 So it says the prince of the Persian kingdom, 879 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,840 this is this principality, this massive demon, 880 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,160 resisted me 21 days. 881 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,080 I mean, mind-bending. 882 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Then Michael, uh-oh, you know who Michael is? 883 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,720 Michael is one of the angels 884 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,200 that attends to the presence of God. 885 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,800 He's perpetually within God's presence. 886 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,640 I mean, like close, inner circle. 887 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,920 He says, then Michael, one of the chief princes. 888 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,560 Okay, so we're talking about the highest ranking angel. 889 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,680 I love this. 890 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880 He's not a king, he's a prince, remember? 891 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,840 Jesus is the king of kings. 892 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,160 Right, Jesus is the only king. 893 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Then Michael, one of the chief princes, 894 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,600 came to help me because I was detained there 895 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,680 with the king of Persia. 896 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,680 So this principality was warring to keep the answer 897 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200 and the solution and the answer to the prayer 898 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,400 to get to Daniel for 21 days. 899 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,760 Now later, the story goes on, it's just crazy cool. 900 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,960 And what happens is, is they defeat him 901 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,920 and the answer comes. 902 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,400 I mean, so he gets what he prayed for, 903 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,800 but that's a real clue that when we pray, 904 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,720 we actually start wars. 905 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,800 When you pray, you start a war in the heavenly realms. 906 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,400 Now I don't know if that means if you're praying 907 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,040 for your refrigerator to get fixed, 908 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,880 there's suddenly a war in the heavenly realm. 909 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,400 I have a feeling it's more 30,000 foot prayers 910 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,120 where you're praying for revival for the nation, 911 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,960 where you're praying that justice would be done 912 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,960 in the political realm for election integrity, 913 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,240 that all the darkness in the world would be dispelled 914 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,680 by salt and light, which we're called to be. 915 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 I think when we pray those prayers, 916 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,840 we are praying those prayers right now 917 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,840 and they are b-happ prayers, big, hairy, audacious prayers. 918 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,520 And we wanna encourage you to not be afraid to pray. 919 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,240 I remember this hit me in the wake of dealing 920 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,920 with Kathy's passing and me doing that funeral 921 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,000 and us feeling so defeated. 922 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,200 I feel like the Lord brought a couple of things to me. 923 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,760 One of them was this. 924 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,840 He said to me, and when I say he said, I'm just saying, 925 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,720 I'm extrapolating my interpretation of an impression. 926 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:37,320 So I didn't hear a voice. 927 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,160 I didn't hear, he didn't write this out with a pen. 928 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,040 I'm just saying this is my takeaway. 929 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,880 So I want to be clear about that. 930 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,920 When I say God said, this is what I think he said 931 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,240 and how I interpret it to me. 932 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:51,720 So I'd wanna be clear about that and honest about it. 933 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,120 But I felt like he was saying to me, Jimmy, 934 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,080 what's the worst thing that could happen if you pray? 935 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,920 And I'm just gonna insert this, a behap prayer, 936 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,400 a big, hairy, audacious prayer. 937 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,040 What's the worst thing that can happen? 938 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,680 And I remember thinking, I don't know. 939 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,360 And the word came to me, nothing. 940 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,120 That's the worst thing that can happen. 941 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,240 In other words, if you pray for someone to be healed 942 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,160 and they don't appear to get healed, 943 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,000 what's the worst thing? 944 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,840 In the way you want, yes. 945 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,000 You don't lose, you've lost nothing. 946 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,280 But on the flip side of the coin, what if he does? 947 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,960 But if you're so shy to pray because you've been hurt 948 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,480 and disappointed, disillusioned that you never pray, 949 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000 you're not even giving it a chance. 950 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,880 You're not even giving it a chance to not work. 951 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,240 And so I've learned the hard way, 952 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:50,240 and we've had to navigate this to actually do it. 953 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,040 Step up, pray the behap, big, hairy, audacious prayer. 954 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,880 And we pray like it depends on us, 955 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,040 but we trust like it depends on God. 956 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000 So yeah, there it is. 957 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,840 That's good. 958 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,680 There it is. 959 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,520 Anything to wrap up that? 960 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,340 No, I think that's good. 961 00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:06,180 Hopefully this will help people. 962 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:07,020 I do too. 963 00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:11,080 I think this message, it really, 964 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,040 just hearing it over and over, 965 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,160 because I heard it three times on Sunday. 966 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,840 Now we're talking about it. 967 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,520 And I felt like this is what we were supposed 968 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,440 to talk about today. 969 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,960 And you got a revelation today. 970 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,840 Here we are pastors and we've dealt with disappointment, 971 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,280 disillusionment. 972 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,280 And I can't even imagine people in this world 973 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,200 that have so many needs and they don't pray to God. 974 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,400 They don't feel heard. 975 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,060 And I think we just hopefully dispelled that 976 00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:49,120 with the scripture to show them that God does hear. 977 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,680 I love that God just, right here on the podcast, 978 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,440 God highlighted that for you. 979 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,960 I'm gonna just say them again out loud. 980 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,800 This is the book of Daniel and it is chapter 10. 981 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,600 And it's in verse 12. 982 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,080 Your words were heard. 983 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,980 And I have come in response to them. 984 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,000 The problem is, is when it doesn't get answered 985 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,080 the way we thought it would, 986 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,400 we think it didn't get answered. 987 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,360 And we blame God. 988 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,760 And we blame God, but God is answering it. 989 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,480 Things are set into motion. 990 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,120 A war is happening. 991 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,080 And sometimes we don't connect the dot 992 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,040 between what we prayed and the way the answer came. 993 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,520 Because we say your will be done 994 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,780 on earth as it is in heaven, 995 00:38:32,780 --> 00:38:34,040 but we really don't want that. 996 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,380 We want our will to be done. 997 00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:37,280 But I digress. 998 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,680 That's another sermon for another day. 999 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,520 That's a whole nother sermon. 1000 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,440 That's a whole nother one. 1001 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,840 Hey, we love you guys. 1002 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,960 Thank you for listening. 1003 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,680 We hope you're encouraged. 1004 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,000 Listen, go bold, go big or go home. 1005 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,280 That was my boss, Dave Ramsey saying. 1006 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,680 Go big or go home and start praying some BHAP prayers. 1007 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,240 Okay, I've changed it. 1008 00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:57,400 No longer BHAC. 1009 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,240 No, BHAP. 1010 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:02,980 It's BHAP, which is Big, Hairy, Audacious Prayers. 1011 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:06,200 We need to raise our sights, elevate our faith, 1012 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,720 trust God, pray like it depends on us. 1013 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:09,560 Believe God. 1014 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,600 Believe and trust like it depends on Him because it does. 1015 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,160 And offload the weight of it, 1016 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:21,160 but not be afraid to pray big, bold, audacious, hairy prayers. 1017 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,280 Amen? 1018 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,880 Hey, a couple people to thank. 1019 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,540 First of all, I always want to thank David Wicker. 1020 00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:28,380 I mean, he signed up and he does regular subscriptions. 1021 00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:31,120 We have others too that we so appreciate you. 1022 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,720 Value for value, blessing us. 1023 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,500 I want you to, if you get a chance, 1024 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,960 go to livingupinadownworld.com. 1025 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,080 That's our website. 1026 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,000 I put our daily devotionals on there every day. 1027 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,520 All of our past episodes and most current episode 1028 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,520 of Living Up in a Down World is right there 1029 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,680 on the front page. 1030 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,640 You'll see our Twitter feed, which is now an X feed on there. 1031 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,840 You can sign up, subscribe to the newsletter there, 1032 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,960 and you'll get a newsletter every time 1033 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,260 right before we do a podcast. 1034 00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:02,200 If you're not getting one right now, let us know 1035 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,480 and I'll make sure you're on that list. 1036 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,120 But you can do that right there on the website, 1037 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,200 livingupinadownworld.com. 1038 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,560 One of the things I was reminded of, Annette, 1039 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,880 was this message that we just talked about 1040 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,800 with all the points and in context. 1041 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,360 You can hear me preach that message. 1042 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,960 You can watch me do that by going to bridgefbg.com, 1043 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,400 bridgefbg.com, and go about halfway down that page. 1044 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,760 As you scroll down, you'll see it. 1045 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,240 All the current sermons and messages are there. 1046 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,200 And the one from this week is entitled, 1047 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,200 Mind Wars, Demolishing Strongholds Through Behag Prayer. 1048 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,080 It was Behag then, now it's Behap Prayer. 1049 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,200 And we wanna invite you to do that. 1050 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,840 And yeah, follow us. 1051 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,360 Get involved, get connected, reach out to us. 1052 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,200 Let us know what you think about the show. 1053 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,320 We're here for you, we're praying for you. 1054 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,120 Just one other thing. 1055 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,240 I do have another, let me look it up. 1056 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,160 Here it is. 1057 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,960 So My Thrill the Learned boosted us on Fountain. 1058 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,360 He says, this message of, this is from last week, 1059 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,440 this message of saints that sometimes sins, 1060 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,560 not sinner, that is sometimes a saint, 1061 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,480 is what us modern Christians need to hear. 1062 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,480 Thank you. 1063 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,840 We must conquer this path to failure 1064 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,880 so we can be functional messengers of the good news. 1065 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,880 I've been living free with, 1066 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,200 Send Me, Thrumming Through My Heart song, 1067 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,200 as I pass out salvation tracks 1068 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,040 and post Bible study videos and podcasts 1069 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,280 on No Authority Social. 1070 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,040 That's part of No Agenda there, the great podcast. 1071 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,800 We all have mission fields around us. 1072 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,280 We are due a revival, as Adam pointed out, 1073 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,920 talking about Adam Curry, our friends, Adam and Tina, 1074 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,600 who have a great, great podcast called Curry and the Keeper. 1075 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,600 They just released a new episode just last night, 1076 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,440 late last night. 1077 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,480 I got part of the way through it today. 1078 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,320 Already? 1079 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,080 Yeah, I did, because when I was going over to get our food, 1080 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,080 I was listening to it. 1081 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,200 And then Adam Curry, so appreciate my best friend, Adam. 1082 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,120 By the way, we had a bro date last week. 1083 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,960 Yes, you did. 1084 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,800 That was super fun. 1085 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,680 We went to a very cool restaurant here in Fredericksburg, 1086 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,840 had a great time together. 1087 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,360 Iron sharpens iron in the biggest way. 1088 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,280 So love my bro. 1089 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,880 He has a great podcast called No Agenda. 1090 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,200 He writes this and he boosted us, by the way. 1091 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,800 It was a striper boost, so I got to do a striper boost. 1092 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,520 He said, this is one of my go-to must-listen podcasts, 1093 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,560 no matter what day it comes out, 1094 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,280 because we never know lately. 1095 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,120 So thanks for hanging in there with us. 1096 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,560 We love you guys. 1097 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,560 Thank you for listening today. 1098 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,720 Well, anything you want to say on the way out, baby girl? 1099 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,520 What a blessing it is to be able to do this podcast. 1100 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,960 Hopefully help people out there. 1101 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,880 Yeah, that's our heart. 1102 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,760 We love you guys. 1103 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,640 Have an amazing week and we are out of here. 1104 00:42:40,640 --> 00:43:05,640 I'll see you next time.