1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Don't get down when you're seeing the worst 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Cause the last will be the first 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 What a day I'm telling you 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 All things will be new 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Living up in a down world 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Yeah we're living, yeah we're living 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Living up in a down world 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Oh 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 This is Gene and Ed 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 We are excited to be with you again 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Finally back into a weekend routine 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,000 This is episode number 51 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 That reminds me of Area 51 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 You know about Area 51? 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Oh yeah, Roswell, New Mexico 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Well, ish 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Ish 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 It's out more... 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 That is close 20 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 I thought it was around Las Vegas 21 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,000 No, it's Roswell 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,000 No, no, no 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,000 No, no, no 24 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Adam the Podfather, Curry will correct this one 25 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Okay, I used to go to Roswell as a child every year 26 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,000 But that's not where Area 51 is 27 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 It is, it's that area 28 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Okay, I'm stopping the podcast 29 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 No you're not 30 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Cause this is bad 31 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 The news has ran off the rails 32 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,000 I'm serious, no I'm not gonna stop it 33 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 But really, it's lost 34 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Okay, I'm gonna look it up 35 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,000 No, Google it 36 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 I'm gonna Google it right now 37 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Chat GPT 38 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Oh my gosh 39 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 No, no, no, I'm kidding 40 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Oh, you know who would kill us 41 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Hey, well, I'm not Tina 42 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Hey, welcome to our podcast 43 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,000 This is Jimmy and Ed 44 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 We are Living Up in a Down World 45 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 And check us out at livingupinadownworld.com 46 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 And Annette is... 47 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Dame Annette is all over Google right now 48 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Roswell, Area 51, Aliens 49 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 No way 50 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Honey, Las Vegas, where in the world are you getting that from? 51 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Well, it does say Nevada right here too 52 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,000 So, because we have a friend who will go in name 53 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Because he's classified 54 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Who worked at the non-existent Area 51 55 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Well, why is it that when we go through... 56 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:05,000 But they flew out of Las Vegas in and out every day to this base that does not exist 57 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 I don't know what I'm talking about 58 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 You don't, girl, but I love you 59 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 And you're beautiful by the way 60 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 No, I'm serious, you are stunning 61 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Oh, wow, sound effects 62 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 No, thank you Adam Curry for the cool sound effects 63 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 So why did I think it was... 64 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Because there is something out there 65 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 No, Roswell is where apparently... 66 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Aliens 67 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000 No, they said... 68 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Well, okay, there's this theory 69 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Or maybe an account 70 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 I don't know, somebody will probably talk to me about it 71 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 But where there was a spaceship 72 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 A UFO that crashed 73 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,000 And supposedly there were actually alien bodies that were extricated 74 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Then all of that was apparently taken to Area... 75 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Well, the non-existent Area 51 76 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 You know, the place it doesn't exist 77 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Right 78 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 So there's a lot of stories around that 79 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,000 But anyway, all that to say, this is episode number 51 80 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Well, I totally messed that one up, didn't I? 81 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Well, I mean, I was trying to be sweet 82 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000 And then you just... 83 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Do we need to cut this and start over? 84 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 No, we're rolling with it 85 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000 This is real life, baby 86 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,000 This is unedited 87 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 This is us 88 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Unscripted 89 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 This is us 90 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Unedited 91 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Hey, we love you guys 92 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Man, we got some sweet notes this week 93 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 And just tons of encouragement 94 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Wait, wait, wait 95 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 I have to stop 96 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Yeah, stop 97 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Today is your birthday 98 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Oh, happy birthday to me 99 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,000 And... 100 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Oh, wait, do you even have... 101 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,000 You know what? 102 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,000 I got rid of my applause button 103 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Because I replaced it with this 104 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 K-Y-V-O 105 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Keep your buckets overflowing 106 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 K-Y-V-O 107 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Do that Mickey bucket 108 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 K-K-K-Keep your bucket 109 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Oh, it's going 110 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,000 K-K-Keep your bucket 111 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Well, I love that because 112 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,000 It's so cheesy, but I love it 113 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 It's Tina and Adam 114 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Right 115 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 I love it 116 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 On that jingle 117 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 But that's your motto in life 118 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 It is so my motto 119 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 So it's very apropos for your birthday 120 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 But I want to give a big shout out to 121 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Sir T.J. the Wrathful 122 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Yes 123 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 He's one of the Dorphil Gang 124 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,000 And just such a cool guy 125 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,000 His songs 126 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Such a great band 127 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000 The songs they sing 128 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 These guys are amazing, the Dorphils 129 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Check them out 130 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 You can find them on 131 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 I know they've got their newest video 132 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 It's a song called They Don't Know 133 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Which is my favorite song that they've done 134 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,000 It's called They Don't Know 135 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 They have a great video of it on YouTube 136 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,000 So check it out 137 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Because it is really good 138 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,000 But Sir T.J.'s one of... 139 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,000 It's a huge fan 140 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Is he the one that did this jingle? 141 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 He did this jingle 142 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 And he did... 143 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 I've got another version of it 144 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 K-Y-V-O 145 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 It's a short version 146 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 So that's a short version 147 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Wow, that is short 148 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,000 So if I just want to do a quick hit 149 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,000 I can do that 150 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 So I was looking for 151 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Because I was like 152 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 It's okay, it's my birthday, right? 153 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 So we need to have some kind of... 154 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 No 155 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,000 No, that didn't do it either 156 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,000 You need to celebrate 157 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 I mean, not everybody celebrates 158 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Alright, it is Jimmy 159 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Pastor Jimmy Pruitt's birthday 160 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Way to go, Pastor Jimmy 161 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 62,000 years of age 162 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 62,000 163 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Oh, 62 164 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Okay, there 165 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,000 You're so funny 166 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Wow 167 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,000 I know 168 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Oh, I'm still on 169 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Oh, you're still on 170 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 How are you going to get rid of it? 171 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 I'm just going to leave it there 172 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 The whole show 173 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 No 174 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 I know 175 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 I have too much fun with these pads 176 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Thanks to Adam Curry 177 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 I nerd out on these 178 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Yes 179 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 By the way, you... 180 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,000 You already said it 181 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,000 I said it already 182 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,000 I've got to say it again 183 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Why? 184 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,000 I think it's the new lighting in the studio 185 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 We're in the Living Up studio 186 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,000 We've got it lit as if we're doing a video podcast 187 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 It is legit 188 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 But we're not doing that yet 189 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 It is lit, alright 190 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 It is lit 191 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 So the lighting, is it taking away my wrinkles? 192 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 What wrinkles? 193 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Oh, very good 194 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 What wrinkles? 195 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 That was a good answer 196 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 So, it's my day today 197 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Happy birthday to me 198 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 So what are we going to do? 199 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 It's only a number 200 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 What are we going to do? 201 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,000 We're going to do our podcast 202 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000 I mean, for your birthday 203 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 We're doing stuff I love to do 204 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 I love to do this 205 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Well, that's true 206 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 I mean, I really do 207 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,000 I miss... 208 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Oh, man, I'm so happy to be back in a rhythm 209 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 and doing it on a weekly basis 210 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Yeah, well, Adam Curry pretty much spanked us 211 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 He's like, you really... 212 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 And he didn't... 213 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 I don't know if he said it to me 214 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 But he said it through Tina to me 215 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Adam really doesn't like the fact that y'all are not doing this weekly 216 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Well, I didn't like it either 217 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Well, you know what we did? 218 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,000 We were changing our staff meeting to Wednesdays 219 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 so we could do this on Tuesdays and then get it out there on Wednesdays 220 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Definitely 221 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 So, we're working on it 222 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 This is way better 223 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 I already feel better 224 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 I mean, when we made this decision 225 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 I felt such peace because I love the people that we're talking to 226 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 I mean, I love the feedback 227 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 We're more fresh in the morning as well 228 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Well, that's true 229 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Yeah, I don't know how Adam and Tina do it at night 230 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 I'm done 231 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Well, we did ours last week 232 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Last Thursday night 233 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 We did do Thursday night 234 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 We did have a lot of energy 235 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 We did 236 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Which was not normal for us 237 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,000 That's true 238 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 But today, it was really... 239 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 It's really good 240 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,000 So, we're just changing our... 241 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 I'm thrilled to be doing it on my birthday 242 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:57,000 We're changing our work schedule so that we can do this for our fun, I guess 243 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Our other work 244 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 That's what we love to do 245 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 This is our second job 246 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Yeah 247 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 You know, job... 248 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Is it a job if you love what you're doing? 249 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 That's true 250 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Does it really work? 251 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 No, we love... 252 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,000 This is a labor of love 253 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Because we love people 254 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,000 We love helping 255 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 And we want... 256 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 We believe it's possible 257 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Jesus taught us how to pray 258 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Remember it in the Lord's model prayer? 259 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 He said, on earth as it is in heaven 260 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Well, now, the way we say it in church is in earth 261 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Well, that's the old King James version 262 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 But you know what? 263 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 I do love that we do that every week 264 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Because it kind of sets up the sermon for us to really hear it 265 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Because we're praying that... 266 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Praying God's will 267 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Yeah, I remember 268 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 And then we're listening 269 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 True 270 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,000 And I remember Dr. Mark Rutland, the way he says it is 271 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 21 seconds to change your life 272 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Right 273 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,000 And so, we've incorporated the Lord's model prayer into our weekly sermon setup 274 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 I do that, I get up 275 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 We pray for the peace of Israel as the Lord commands us to do 276 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Because we're friends of Israel 277 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 And I don't care who doesn't like it 278 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 We're grafted into that vine and Jesus was Jewish 279 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 So, it is what it is 280 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,000 And so, we're going to continue to always support and pray for 281 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 We support them financially through our church 282 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,000 The great ministry called Israel Media Ministries 283 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Who did an amazing job on your testimony video 284 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 I've had a lot of good feedback 285 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Great feedback 286 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 People are really touched by that 287 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 And if you haven't seen that 288 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 You can find that on YouTube 289 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 And all you have to do is go to Israel Media Ministries 290 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 And look for Annette's face 291 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 It's right there at the beginning 292 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 It's one of the first 293 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 It's the last one they did 294 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 They're working on mine right now 295 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 But honey 296 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 I can't wait to hear yours 297 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 You did such a good job 298 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Thank you 299 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Listen, the production guy in the studio 300 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 That was hired to do that video was crying 301 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 I know, I know 302 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 It was very moving 303 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 He was crying 304 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 He was like, wow 305 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Which is crazy 306 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Because I wasn't too, really much 307 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 I was really trying to be focused 308 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 It's beautiful 309 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 I fell apart watching it 310 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 It was real 311 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 You did 312 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Yeah, we were watching it 313 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 And you just seeing it with the music 314 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 And they added these vignettes to it 315 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 And it just brought it all back to you in a big way 316 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 And there's so much more to the story 317 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 But you can only say so much 318 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 It's only a few minutes long, right 319 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 So, like seven, eight minutes long or something 320 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Ten minutes 321 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Yes, yes 322 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 So, go check it out 323 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Israel Media Ministries on YouTube 324 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Check out Annette's testimony video 325 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 This is my story 326 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Powerful 327 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 In fact, it was called 328 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:33,000 From desperation to deliverance 329 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Yes 330 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 From desperation to deliverance 331 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 I had to think about it 332 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Because I hadn't looked at it in the last few days 333 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,000 But anyway, super proud of you, babe 334 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 You're a rock star 335 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Thank you 336 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,000 I appreciate that 337 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Totally a rock star 338 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Yeah 339 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Keep your buckets overflowing 340 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 You do 341 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 So, welcome to the show 342 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Gosh, 62, it's just a number, right 343 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Right 344 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 I feel amazing 345 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 This has to lead right into a carnivore conversation 346 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Short version 347 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 But we had dinner with some friends of ours 348 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Pastor Eddie Freeman and his wife 349 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Jessica 350 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Jessica from Gateway Church up in Southlake 351 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 And he's what we call a relational pastor 352 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Because we're a part of the Gateway Network 353 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 We're not an actual Gateway Church 354 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 But we're just a part of the 355 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 We relate to the bigger networks 356 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 It's a network of about 100 357 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 And probably by now, 170 churches or so 358 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Yes 359 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,000 And we all connect for fellowship 360 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 And resourcing and best practices and all that 361 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 So he was 362 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 They were in town yesterday 363 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 So we had lunch with them 364 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,000 And the carnivore thing came up 365 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Are you thirsty over there? 366 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 I am 367 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Sorry, I had to get a drink 368 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 It's okay 369 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 So we had a carnival conversation 370 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Because we sat down to eat 371 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 And we ordered a double meat burger with bacon 372 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 And sunny side up eggs 373 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Or over easy eggs 374 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 And no sides 375 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And they're like, what is this that you're doing? 376 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 And they said, y'all look amazing 377 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 And so, well, we're 200 378 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Yesterday was 209 days 379 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 It's day 210, but who's counting? 380 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 So 210 today 381 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 I can't believe you're counting 382 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 I'm keeping up with it 383 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 I have a journal every day 384 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 So I just keep it in my journal 385 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 So I know right where we are 386 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Because it has been so impactful for us 387 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 And so life-changing 388 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,000 That it's important to document 389 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaking of documentation 390 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 We're going to be in a documentary movie 391 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Right 392 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Coming up called Healing Humanity 393 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 And it's being produced by Carrie Mann 394 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,000 He is one of the influencers in the carnivore space 395 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 And yeah, they reached out to us 396 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 And so we'll be doing that interview in May 397 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 They're going to come to our studio here 398 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 And we'll do 399 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 I think we're doing 400 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 It'll be a video 401 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 It's moving 402 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 More early June 403 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Because of that weekend in May 404 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 We're going to Nashville 405 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Right 406 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 So it's right on the edge there 407 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 On the edge there 408 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Yeah 409 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 So anyway 410 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Super excited about that 411 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 And excited because 412 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 This has been a game changer for our health 413 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Yes 414 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 So what did we eat last night? 415 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 I mean, this is crazy 416 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 So we had the double burger with bacon 417 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Avocado 418 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 We did do a little avocado 419 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Which is not carnivore 420 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Just to add a little fat 421 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,000 I don't mind having good fat 422 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Every once in a while like that 423 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 I just had like a slice 424 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 It was tiny 425 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,000 But anyway 426 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000 We did that 427 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,000 And so you'd think 428 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Wow, that was a big meal 429 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 So we get home 430 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Oh my goodness 431 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 For dinner 432 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 I did two Chuck-Eye steaks 433 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 And two New York strips 434 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Two New York strips 435 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 I mean it completely covered the platter 436 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 And we ate almost all of that 437 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000 We did 438 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Or did we eat all of it? 439 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Yeah, there was some fat on it 440 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 That you didn't eat 441 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,000 But man 442 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 I was in carnivore heaven 443 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Yes 444 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 But what does that do for our body? 445 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 It's jet fuel for our body 446 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 And when your body only has to process one food 447 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 What? 448 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Nothing 449 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Keep going 450 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 When your body only has to process one food 451 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,000 I mean it's 452 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,000 It's just so much better for you 453 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 You have energy 454 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Yeah, it doesn't take you out 455 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 So anyway 456 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Carvajalini is going great 457 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,000 And so yeah 458 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,000 It's always fun telling people about it 459 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 They always look at you like 460 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 What? 461 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 You mean you can't 462 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 No sugar 463 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 You don't have dessert 464 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Oh well 465 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 What about wine? 466 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Everybody wants to know 467 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Everybody wants to know 468 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,000 What about wine? 469 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Can you have wine? 470 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 You have a brood every once in a while 471 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Something that's 472 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 A little champagne maybe 473 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 That's non-sugar 474 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Just not every 475 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Just not regular 476 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Yeah, not regular 477 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Yeah, just enjoy it 478 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 It's actually better when you have space in between 479 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Right 480 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Anyway 481 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 So yeah 482 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 So man 483 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 God has been up to some cool stuff 484 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 The waves of revival are really starting to happen 485 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 We're seeing massive growth in our church 486 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,000 We're seeing doors open up 487 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 We already talked about going to three services 488 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Which has been exhausting 489 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Okay 490 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 So we didn't know how exhausting this was going to be 491 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,000 And on Sunday 492 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Mentally 493 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Mentally 494 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Mentally 495 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 It's more mentally than physical 496 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Because when we were driving off 497 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,000 You said I am exhausted 498 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 I actually felt good on Sunday 499 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Well I think it's just all the people that were meeting 500 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 And ministering too in between services 501 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 And it was 502 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Yes, I was 503 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 I took a nap 504 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,000 You didn't 505 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 You were wiped out 506 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 I fell asleep 507 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000 We just turned on an HGTV show 508 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 And literally within minutes I was out 509 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 You were gone 510 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000 I just, yeah 511 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 It's more exhausting than I thought it would be 512 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,000 So I started a new series this Sunday called Mind Wars 513 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Winning the Battle of the Mind 514 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 And I'm telling you that 515 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 That was a hard hitter for people because 516 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 People don't really stop to think about 517 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 What they're thinking about 518 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 And it's a quote from Pastor Steve Berger 519 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 From Tennessee who said, this is years ago 520 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,000 He said we have to start thinking about what we're thinking about 521 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Have you ever thought about that? 522 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Wow 523 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 I mean really 524 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Well yes 525 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Just because 526 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 I mean we've talked about this so much 527 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 About the battlefield that's in between our ears 528 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 And that's in our mind 529 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 And how it can affect every area of our life 530 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 There was a book written in 1995 531 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Do you know who wrote that book? 532 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Yes, oh yeah 533 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Joyce Meyer, Battlefield of the Mind 534 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 The Battlefield of the Mind 535 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 That was a huge book for us 536 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Yes it was 537 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 And I think that was one of her earlier big books 538 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Oh yeah 539 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 But to me one of her best 540 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000 And it talks about the war 541 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 The assault on our minds that's coming at us 542 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 When you think about 543 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 I mean if you listen to No Agenda 544 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Which a lot of our friends here are No Agenda listeners 545 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 No Agenda is a fantastic podcast by Adam Curry and John Dvorak 546 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 About they do media deconstruction 547 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 And so if you listen to them 548 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 You will begin to really see patterns that 549 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,000 What we're being fed by mainstream media is a load 550 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 It's just not 551 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 There's little to no truth 552 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Or it's twisted or warped truth 553 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Or it's their version of what they want us to hear 554 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Exactly 555 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 And so there's an assault on our mind on a regular basis 556 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Whether it's through that thing you hold in your hand 557 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Called a phone 558 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Or your tablet or your whatever 559 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 You know your computer 560 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 That's coming at us all the time 561 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Commercials on TV 562 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,000 I mean everything is designed to capture your mind 563 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 And yet we 564 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,000 The Bible says we've been given the mind of Christ 565 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 And so at some point we have to say 566 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Am I going to become the gatekeeper or the guardian of my mind 567 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Or am I just going to be passive 568 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,000 And let down my guard and let everything come into me 569 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 That wants to come into me 570 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 And people don't think about that 571 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000 We don't think about what we're thinking about 572 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Because what was the term that we used to say a lot 573 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,000 When we watched a lot of TV 574 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,000 We'd say I just need to vege 575 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,000 As though we could watch this passively 576 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 And not let it affect us 577 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Yes 578 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Well I remember when we were watching TV 579 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Things started getting worse and worse and worse 580 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 And finally if you'll remember 581 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 One time I decided 582 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Let's start fast forwarding through these parts 583 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 So 15, 20 years ago 584 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 You didn't really think about it that much 585 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000 We didn't have the capability of doing that for one 586 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 We didn't have DVR, that's right 587 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000 But now with everything 588 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 It's gotten so much worse 589 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 What dawned on us one day is that we were fast forwarding through 590 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 More of the show than we were watching 591 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 And I was like, okay, there's a tipping point here 592 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Where it's ridiculous 593 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Because the premise of the shows has changed so much 594 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 And there's so much violence out there 595 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,000 And for me, because I like justice 596 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,000 I like shows, dramas, real life shows 597 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000 I like the datelines and all that 598 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 I really like that 599 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Because I like to see how it gets solved 600 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,000 I like to solve it while I'm watching it play out 601 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Honestly, I could have been an investigator 602 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Oh, you are an investigator 603 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 If I need somebody's cyber stock 604 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 I'd just say, Daymanette 605 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Could you go check out 606 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 As a profession, I really could have gone into that 607 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Because I, or forensic science or anything like that 608 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Because I enjoy that 609 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000 But what it was doing to my mind and my emotions 610 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 It was causing fear, too much fear 611 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 So give some examples of how that manifested in our daily life 612 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 The fear that you're talking about coming in 613 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,000 I would, you know, as soon as it started to get dusk 614 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,000 I would say, we've got to shut all the blinds 615 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,000 And I was just constantly thinking about people lurking outside 616 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 There was just so much fear that just entered my heart 617 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 And it was devastating 618 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 I remember you would be like 619 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Dreams, bad dreams 620 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Bad dreams, you have horrible dreams 621 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000 And then you'd say things to me like 622 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Did you check the doors? 623 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Did you check the doors? And it got to be 624 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,000 At first it was kind of like 625 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Oh, honey, I got this, I got this 626 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000 But then I noticed it moved more obsessive 627 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,000 To where it was like 628 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,000 You were paranoid about it 629 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Well, there were times when the garage door didn't get shut 630 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 So obviously that can 631 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 And then we didn't lock the back door 632 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 But it got obsession 633 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 It became an obsession 634 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 That's understandable 635 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 And that's when I finally said 636 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 We need to do something about this 637 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 So in terms of the battlefield of the mind 638 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 And these mind wars 639 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,000 How has that impacted you from some of the trauma 640 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000 That you experienced as a child and as an adult? 641 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:25,000 How have those things play into the mind? 642 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Well, for one, I have to change the way I viewed what happened to me 643 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Oh, good 644 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Because if I view it as just violence 645 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 And I don't see the compassion that God actually had 646 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 While I was in that situation 647 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Or the compassion he had for the people that were the victimizers 648 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000 It was when I did change my view of contempt 649 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:01,000 For my family members or an ex-husband 650 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,000 To compassion because there is something that had to have happened 651 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:12,000 To them, to get them to the place where violence was caused on us 652 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 And havoc was reaped 653 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,000 How did things that were said to you by what I would call perpetrators 654 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Things that were said to you by someone that you should have been coming from love 655 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Someone that you could trust, that you were safe with, that you were loved 656 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,000 How did what you were called, what you were told, or what was done to you 657 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 How did it impact you in your mind, in your thinking? 658 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,000 It devastated me at the time and for many years 659 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 I remember I was at a movie theater 660 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,000 And I was there with my ex and another couple 661 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000 And we were sitting there waiting for the movie to begin 662 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:58,000 And the wife made a comment to me in front of everyone about my weight 663 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000 She said, oh my gosh, you're so thin and you look so good 664 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,000 And my ex made a comment that stuck with me to this day 665 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,000 And this was, I was probably, I would say 18, 19 years of age 666 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,000 And he said, well, when she takes off her clothes, it just, it all falls out 667 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000 So basically she's hiding her weight 668 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000 And it, I mean I was probably all of maybe 105 pounds 669 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Oh wow 670 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Yeah, I was never that big at that time 671 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000 That's where you are now 672 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Oh, I'm not far off 673 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000 You're real close 674 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Not far off 675 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000 You're real close 676 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,000 But anyway, but the thing is, is it affected me for years upon years upon years 677 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000 And you know, Tina talks about it on her podcast about body dysmorphia 678 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Boy, did I ever have that because of what he said 679 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Those words 680 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000 You and millions of other women 681 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Yes 682 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000 I know, it's so devastating 683 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000 It was devastating 684 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,000 And I had to get to the point where I could be comfortable with myself 685 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000 At a larger weight, which I've never 686 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 I don't think any women, any woman is really comfortable with themself 687 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 I don't know if we ever really get comfortable 688 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Or content 689 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Or content 690 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Because we, magazines, TV, the media has just really 691 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Porn 692 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Yes, porn 693 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000 All of that 694 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000 It's played mind games with us and we feel like we're never perfect enough 695 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,000 But those words coming from a man who supposedly loved me and cherished me 696 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Just devastated me 697 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,000 And it really wasn't until I began a really stronger walk in the Lord 698 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Where I was mature enough to brush it off 699 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,000 I mean, I still remember it, but the pain of it's not there 700 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000 And then I marry you and you just say the opposite 701 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Of course, you've never said a mean thing to me in 31 years 702 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Can I park it right here? 703 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Yes 704 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000 I'm going to segue a little bit 705 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Okay 706 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 How did these mind games, these head games 707 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,000 These negative, stinking, thinking, the zig-zag they used to say 708 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 How did all that play into our early years of marriage? 709 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Because one of the things we wanted to mention and talk about was the power of intimacy 710 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,000 So I'm thinking about how the role that the mind plays in intimacy 711 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,000 So share an example of, do you remember the night we were in bed? 712 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Like right after we got married 713 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Is this going to be R rated or G rated? 714 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000 No, this is safe, safe TV, safe podcasting 715 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,000 So no, it was the night that you accidentally hit me 716 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000 Yes 717 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And what did you do? 718 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Well, I 719 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 You rolled over or something and bumped me 720 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 No, I did, it was something by accident 721 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:48,000 And literally I pulled my arms up as if I was trying to protect myself from what you were about to do to me 722 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 I know 723 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000 I would have done that even on accident to my ex 724 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000 He would have 725 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 So you had a Pavlov's reaction 726 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Yes, and he did too 727 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:05,000 That was so sad because he didn't think you don't hurt a woman or anybody 728 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000 But he reacted 729 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 But obviously he had something going on 730 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000 And we're not here to slam our exes or anything like that 731 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000 This is reality 732 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000 But what I'm saying is I'm sure it was something from his own childhood that caused him to become that way 733 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000 I've thought about that a lot 734 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Yeah, I mean people don't just overnight become evil or mean or 735 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Reactive 736 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Reactive 737 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Raging 738 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 There is something that causes that 739 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Well, I remember that night because I looked at you and I said, what are you doing? 740 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000 And I said, you're not going to hit me back or hurt me? 741 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,000 And you were like, what? 742 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Yeah, that was like days into our marriage 743 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 And I was like, of course not 744 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 That would never even enter my mind 745 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 It was an accident 746 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,000 But the fact, so thinking about head games, thinking about how the mind works 747 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,000 We realized very quickly in our new marriage that we have some things to overcome 748 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 And it took us a couple of years 749 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 For one, I didn't trust you 750 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Because I had no reason 751 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Because I was a scoundrel 752 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000 To trust anybody after what I'd been through, you were not 753 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 But I didn't have, I mean 754 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Because of growing up with my father, growing up with my ex 755 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Men in my life, I always had issues everywhere I worked 756 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000 It was like I had a symbol on my forehead that says victim 757 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Victimize her because she can take it, you know, kind of thing 758 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000 And it was hard because I was always 759 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Well, in a very real sense, you were beat down emotionally 760 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Not physically necessarily, some of that 761 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,000 But mostly you were emotionally and psychologically beat down 762 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 To the point where when we came together 763 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,000 And I realized very quickly, you were very open with me too 764 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Our conversations were straight up 765 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 You needed to know what you were getting yourself into 766 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 And you know what, I knew that 767 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 I weighed the cost, so to speak 768 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 I'm like, there's gold in those hills 769 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000 I saw you, I'm like, there is gold in there 770 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:12,000 How Jesus sees us, which you saw the perfection in me 771 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 That's how Jesus, he doesn't see the sin 772 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000 He sees us perfected, he sees us whole 773 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 I can tell you where it happened 774 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Where? 775 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000 It was when Tony Gibson was leading worship 776 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 At Indiana Avenue Baptist Church on an evening 777 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000 And I saw tears rolling down your cheeks during worship 778 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 So you knew there was a tenderness there 779 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000 I was done, that was it 780 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 That was all I needed to know 781 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 But you didn't know what you were getting yourself into 782 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000 My attitude was, that's all I need to know 783 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 The rest is negotiable 784 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000 We'll navigate life together 785 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 And I was all in, I was in from that moment forward 786 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 But a lot of things were hard for me 787 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Because of, you know, your past can really dictate your future 788 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 There you go, there's the head games again, right? 789 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000 This is the mind thing 790 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 And so when you go into your future 791 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000 You're always looking back at what has happened to you 792 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000 What's reoccurring 793 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000 True 794 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000 And you can tend to stay in those same patterns 795 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Or you can get a new mindset 796 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Which Romans 12, 2 says, change the way you think 797 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Be transformed by changing the way you think 798 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Yes, and so I had to get to that point 799 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Where I had to allow the Lord to change my stinking thinking 800 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,000 To what you want from me as a husband and as a wife 801 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,000 What you want from us is true intimacy, true love 802 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Safe love 803 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Where it's safe, you're not going to 804 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 We're not name calling 805 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,000 We're not forcing one another to partake in intimacy 806 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 At the wrong time 807 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Or you know what I'm saying? 808 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,000 And so that was a learning process based on what my whole past was 809 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 So how did having those mind battles, those mind games 810 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000 How did it impact your capacity for intimacy? 811 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000 I mean you had it, it was there, you wanted to be loved 812 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000 You wanted to love 813 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000 You know it's a desire 814 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000 But you struggled, there was a wall 815 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 I did, it's an innate desire to be loved 816 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Absolutely 817 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000 But then you've got that distrust 818 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,000 You're so afraid to allow yourself to let go 819 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000 It's going to happen again 820 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Yes 821 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000 I'm going to get betrayed 822 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Yes 823 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000 I'm going to get hurt 824 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Absolutely 825 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,000 And so we build up these walls and this resistance to the very thing we need 826 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Which is love and connection 827 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 And to feel safe with one another 828 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 But you know what? I struggle too 829 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 I mean you talk about me like you married the perfect guy 830 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000 I didn't, you married a guy who was damaged 831 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000 I was hurt 832 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,000 I never saw that kind of damage 833 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Well not the same kind of damage 834 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000 I'm a dude too 835 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000 So being a man, it's a different level of impact 836 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000 And maybe it manifests in different ways 837 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 But I always kept this attachment-detachment thing 838 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Where I was attached but I was detached 839 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000 And again of course I was the oldest son 840 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000 I got all this kid syndrome 841 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 I'm pretty independent by nature 842 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Then you factor in that, that my first wife left me 843 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000 Right 844 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000 High and dry 845 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Which I thanked her for 846 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Because I can't understand that 847 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000 It so wounded me though 848 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000 And I just felt completely worthless and rejected 849 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,000 That's where I was like how can she leave this man who is 850 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 I mean okay you're not perfect, perfect 851 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 But you're as close as anyone I've ever known in my life 852 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 About to turn this microphone off 853 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000 I love you so much 854 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000 We do have the door shut 855 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000 And locked 856 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000 And locked 857 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000 But we're at the church 858 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000 We've got a lot happening 859 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 That would be kind of weird 860 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 There's so much going on right now 861 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 You'll probably hear stuff 862 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000 But honestly for me 863 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000 When I'm contrasting you with past men in my life 864 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000 You were perfect 865 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000 So for me it was even hard for me to live up to that 866 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 They made it easy for me to be truthful 867 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 I mean because you had had a run of bad things 868 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 The enemy, by the way 869 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 There's a very real enemy 870 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Friends, family, listeners 871 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000 There's a real enemy 872 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 The enemy of your soul 873 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 And he wants you dead 874 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 He wants you marginalized 875 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 He wants you ineffective for the kingdom of God 876 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000 And so Annette, Dame Annette 877 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000 You had had so many hits 878 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000 So many attacks 879 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000 It's because the enemy knows the potential that's in you 880 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 And that if you were ever to discover it 881 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 It would be Katie bar the door on the things of the kingdom 882 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000 So the enemy tries to devastate, destroy, kill, steal, and destroy 883 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 John 10, 10 884 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000 The enemy comes except to kill, steal, and destroy 885 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Jesus said, I came down 886 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 You might have life and have it to the full 887 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 More abundant 888 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 So we know that to be true 889 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000 So all of you right now that feel like your life has been one 890 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 One devastating moment after another 891 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000 One trauma after another 892 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 One let down 893 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000 One disappointment 894 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000 One discouragement after another 895 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Let me tell you something 896 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000 The higher the capacity of potential in your life 897 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 To make a difference in this world for Jesus 898 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 And for the kingdom of God 899 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,000 The higher your capacity and potential 900 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 The more the enemy tries to destroy you 901 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000 That is absolutely true 902 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Before you ever realize that potential 903 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000 There's the mind war 904 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000 And that's why you have to stay in the word 905 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000 And you have to let the word work in your life 906 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000 There you go 907 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 You don't read the word and then walk away and forget it 908 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 It's like looking in the mirror and forgetting what you look like 909 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000 When you walk out 910 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Bring out the book 911 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Yes, you've got to allow that word to permeate in your heart 912 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000 So that you can walk it out 913 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000 I love the book of James 914 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 It says, don't be hearers only 915 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Be doers of the word 916 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000 And so you have to 917 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000 You can't allow those things from the past 918 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000 To hinder you from your future 919 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 He has a beautiful future for you 920 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 You just have to cooperate 921 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000 That grace movement that says you don't have to do anything is wrong 922 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000 We have to cooperate 923 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000 That takes work to do that 924 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000 We have to do something that some people don't like to use this word anymore 925 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Obey 926 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Obey, yes 927 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,000 We read what God says and we do what we're supposed to do 928 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000 I mean it's really so simple we miss it 929 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000 But in this world and culture we've been trained to resist 930 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Anything that's telling us what to do 931 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000 And it's getting worse 932 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Oh, the resistance is strong 933 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Which means we have to get stronger 934 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Yeah, I love that 935 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000 And the only way to get strong is to get into the meat of the word 936 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000 And become mature believers, not immature 937 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Or unbelieving believers 938 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000 I think that's one of the things we heard from Joyce Meyer years ago 939 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:00,000 There's too many unbelieving believers and we need to be believers of the word 940 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000 And that means every aspect of the Bible 941 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000 So can I quote Romans 12, too? 942 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 And do not be conformed to this world 943 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000 That word conform means to be pressed into that shape 944 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,000 To conform, to become the form of what's being pressed 945 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,000 So do not be pressed, conformed to this world 946 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 But be transformed 947 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 That means to change your shape, the way you look, the way you act 948 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Everything about you is changed, transformed 949 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Transformers 950 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,000 So do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind 951 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000 By changing the way you think 952 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Now let's fast forward 953 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 I think we should go back and talk about our first year of marriage 954 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 And some of the terrible foibles 955 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 I know it got hard 956 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 But let's fast forward to now 957 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Because it's my birthday 958 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Did I mention that earlier? 959 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 So I'm 62 years young 960 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000 It is just a number 961 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000 I've never felt better in my life 962 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000 I feel more alive than I've ever felt 963 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000 I'm more excited about 964 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 I wake up so early in the morning 965 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000 Not because I'm getting older 966 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000 It's because I can't wait to get up 967 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000 You have that outlook on life 968 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Which you literally... 969 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Living up in a down world 970 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000 You're like, I don't want to go to sleep because I'm going to miss something 971 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000 And I can't wait to wake up because I don't want to miss anything 972 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000 FOMO, yeah, hashtag FOMO 973 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000 Fear of missing out 974 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Yes 975 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 But it's because I'm so thankful 976 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,000 So let's fast forward to now 977 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000 We were talking about this today 978 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 So I don't know, for you married folks 979 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Do you all have conversations in the bathroom when you're getting ready in the morning? 980 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000 Everybody does 981 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 I'm in the shower yelling over the shower 982 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000 You got your blow dryer going 983 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 We're yelling at each other like, hey, I think God's saying 984 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Or hey, what do you want to talk about on the podcast today? 985 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Or hey, what about, you know, we're just talking about 986 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000 You got to get a car like that 987 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000 All that stuff, you know 988 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Life happens in the bathroom, in the kitchen, right? 989 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Right 990 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000 And so we're in there 991 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,000 And we're chatting back and forth 992 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000 And I was just talking to you 993 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 And I was just saying 994 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000 How much, how grateful I am for us 995 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000 And how 31 years later, two marriages later 996 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,000 A lot of pain, a lot of struggle, a lot of misfires, a lot of bad choices 997 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 And yet today to look at our lives 998 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 I cannot help but just be grateful 999 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 And so I'm yelling at you over the shower 1000 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000 And you've got the hairdryer going 1001 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000 And I'm saying, I love you so much 1002 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:23,000 And I've never ever in my life had the ability to be as intimate, open, and free 1003 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000 And safe as I am with you 1004 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Never 1005 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000 And it took years to get to that point for both of us 1006 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000 I know 1007 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000 And the reason I felt like that's important to say 1008 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000 Is because some people think, gosh, I've been married five years 1009 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000 I thought it'd be easier by now 1010 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Or they hit that seven year, that seven year boy 1011 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Seven year itch or whatever you call it 1012 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Yeah, they call it seven year itch 1013 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000 But really there is something about that year seven 1014 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Whether it's in a job or where you live 1015 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000 Or the house you're in or the car you own 1016 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Or the people in your life 1017 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000 There is something about the number seven and the year seven 1018 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Which is transitory 1019 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000 I mean it can be a real 1020 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000 You almost have to press through it 1021 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 It either makes or breaks you 1022 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000 And a lot of marriages end at seven years 1023 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000 There's just a switch 1024 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000 That's true 1025 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000 And a lot of people quit their jobs after seven years 1026 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Or they move after seven 1027 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,000 There's just something to that seven year transition period 1028 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000 Oh wait, is that a bad word to use nowadays? 1029 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Have we ruined the word transition? 1030 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000 No, no 1031 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000 So anyway, I don't want to get off on the politics thing 1032 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000 But anyway, all that to say is 1033 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 It was hitting me because I'm thinking 1034 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Hey, it's my birthday today 1035 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000 I mentioned that 1036 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000 So I was in the shower thinking about my birthday 1037 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Going, Kylie, 62 1038 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000 And you were like, what are the things I want to do 1039 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 That are my favorite things to do today? 1040 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Yeah, and I said 1041 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 And you said, I want to do a podcast 1042 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000 I want to do my podcast 1043 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 And I want to hang around with my wife 1044 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000 I want to be with my best friend 1045 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000 And the person that I'm closest to on planet earth 1046 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 But then you set up lunch with someone else 1047 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Hey, you told me to do that 1048 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000 I know 1049 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000 You said go for it 1050 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Because I've been trying to get lunch 1051 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000 But then you canceled because you're like 1052 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000 I canceled because I'm out 1053 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000 I can't do it 1054 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 I really want to spend time with you 1055 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000 I do, and it's just time 1056 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000 And this is important to me 1057 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000 But I want to 1058 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000 So you share a little bit from your perspective 1059 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000 How different it is now 1060 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 And how it was when it began 31 years ago 1061 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,000 As we age and get closer to one another 1062 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000 And that intimacy begins to grow 1063 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000 I had no idea that your love could grow even more 1064 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000 There it is 1065 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,000 You nailed it 1066 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000 Man, I thought 1067 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000 This is what I've heard from people 1068 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000 I didn't think this 1069 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000 But I did hear this 1070 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000 And it's like, how can you be with the same person all your life? 1071 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Aren't you going to get tired of that person? 1072 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000 Yeah, I've heard it too 1073 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000 No, because when it's true love, it grows 1074 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Yeah, it's like carnivore 1075 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 Aren't you tired of meat? 1076 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000 Aren't you tired of steak? 1077 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000 People say that 1078 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000 And I'm like, no, I can't wait for my next steak 1079 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000 I know, it's a terrible metaphor 1080 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 It is, but it's true 1081 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Because that's the number one thing people say 1082 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Are you tired of eating the same thing? 1083 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000 It's like that Huey Lewis and the new song 1084 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000 What? 1085 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000 The Power of Love 1086 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Oh, yes, now I do remember that song 1087 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000 But yeah, it's true 1088 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000 But you're right 1089 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:17,000 But the intimacy, the trust, the safety 1090 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,000 You know me more than anyone else in this world could ever know me 1091 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,000 And you know every flaw in my vocabulary of flaws 1092 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000 You are so funny 1093 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000 You always talk about flaws 1094 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000 It's true though 1095 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,000 You don't have very many flaws 1096 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Every flaw I have is there 1097 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Well, I know everything about you 1098 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000 You know everything about me 1099 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000 And really, and we learn more as we grow 1100 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000 It's interesting, after 31 years and the age we're at 1101 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000 We're still in discovery mode 1102 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000 When I hear people that have been married 50 years, 60 years 1103 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,000 It's just like, wow, that is just amazing to me 1104 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000 And how close they can still be 1105 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000 So can I throw a question out? 1106 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Yes 1107 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000 So if someone was to say 1108 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Well, it's so easy for you guys 1109 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000 Y'all don't have to work at it 1110 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000 What would you say? 1111 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000 As you bump the table 1112 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000 No, sorry, I'm bumping the table 1113 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000 There's still work because everything takes work 1114 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000 What does work look like? 1115 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000 Work is effort 1116 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000 So what does it look like? 1117 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Effort to prefer the other one over yourself 1118 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000 To ask the other one 1119 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Can I get you a drink while I'm up getting myself one? 1120 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000 There's work 1121 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000 Sometimes you don't feel like being intimate 1122 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 And you have to lay that down 1123 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:41,000 And allow things to take place to where you can become intimate too 1124 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000 I mean, there's things that work 1125 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000 It takes effort 1126 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Marriage, two people, it takes effort 1127 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000 So there is an ROI on this, right? 1128 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000 Return on investment 1129 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Yes 1130 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000 We have to sow into each other 1131 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Another person in order to reap something 1132 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000 And we don't do it so that we can 1133 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000 That's the byproduct 1134 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000 That's the blessing of a blessed marriage 1135 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Is that the work we put into it, there's always a return on it 1136 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 It's always a return 1137 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000 The ROI is there 1138 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000 And we want to encourage you 1139 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Because I know we've had rocky points in our marriage 1140 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Where we grew distant 1141 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Especially when it came to raising children 1142 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000 That is the hardest thing in the world to do 1143 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000 If there is ever a stressor on the planet 1144 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000 That can come between you and you don't even realize it 1145 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Because your thought is 1146 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,000 My children in this season of their life 1147 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000 We won't have them forever 1148 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000 They're the most important thing in my life 1149 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 And I disagree 1150 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 And we had to learn this the hard way 1151 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000 What was more important is that our children saw us valuing each other 1152 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,000 So that when they someday find their mates, their spouse 1153 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,000 That they will treat their spouse with the same dignity, respect, and honor 1154 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 That they saw us do 1155 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000 And they saw that in us 1156 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,000 And that was brought up many times how much they saw the love in us 1157 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000 And so that carried on in their own lives 1158 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000 Our son in love, Mark, who lives in Tennessee 1159 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000 He's married to our oldest daughter Alicia 1160 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000 He wrote us this week and said, you're my heroes 1161 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,000 And he wrote the most beautiful thing about you when he saw your testimony 1162 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:26,000 And when your son in law doesn't look at you as the weird in-laws that are nosy 1163 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000 And in their business, but actually says you're my heroes 1164 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Because of your marriage and because of your life and your walk with Jesus 1165 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000 That's huge 1166 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000 That's not to brag on us 1167 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000 It's just we learned the hard way that we have to put in the work 1168 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000 And we have to put in the work 1169 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000 It's work 1170 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000 And it's worth it 1171 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000 And the first couple of years was really tough 1172 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000 Because I brought in teenagers into our marriage 1173 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Yeah, I started with teenagers 1174 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,000 I wasn't doing like, you know, scooping poop off a baby and cleaning things up 1175 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Getting the white stuff off my collar and my shirt 1176 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000 It was hard 1177 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000 No, it was like... 1178 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 And the rebelliousness that was there 1179 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Well, they were hurt, they were damaged 1180 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000 They were 1181 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,000 And it took me years to even understand the ramifications of what took place 1182 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Yeah, totally makes sense 1183 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000 But it's all good now, thank God 1184 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000 And God is good 1185 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000 Our kids are thriving right now 1186 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,000 Even in the middle of the worst times we had, we never let go of God 1187 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000 If anything, we turned more to God 1188 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Yeah 1189 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,000 And too many people, things are going so well, they don't need God 1190 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000 Tina and I were talking about that the other day 1191 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000 How many people don't need God 1192 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Wow 1193 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000 And so they live their lives for themselves 1194 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000 So they think 1195 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,000 Yes 1196 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000 And they're miserable 1197 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000 They may have all the wealth and material things and everything they want 1198 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000 But they're missing that one element 1199 00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,000 And literally that's what brought my mom to her knees when she found Christ 1200 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,000 Was she had the wealth, she had all the material things she could want 1201 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Right 1202 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000 But she was empty 1203 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,000 Now she had a horrific husband 1204 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,000 But in spite of that, she was able to thrive in other areas 1205 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Never had to work 1206 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000 Other areas of her life 1207 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,000 But boy, was she ever empty and she found Jesus 1208 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,000 And so when my dad passed away, she never even remarried 1209 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Because Jesus was enough for her 1210 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 And I loved that 1211 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000 She didn't even have the desire 1212 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,000 She could have, she lived another what 21, 22 years 1213 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000 But she said, I don't need that 1214 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000 Jesus is enough 1215 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000 And I would say this in terms of our intimacy 1216 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,000 The reason why we have been able to press past the pain, the trauma, divorces 1217 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000 Everything we've been through, rejection, whatever the list goes on, failure, all that 1218 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,000 Is because of our walk with God 1219 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Because of our walk with Jesus and the Holy Spirit 1220 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000 Leading us, being our helper, being our intercessor, our advocate 1221 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000 And every day pressing into that 1222 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000 Because you and I both, we have a rhythm 1223 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000 We both get up 1224 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000 I get up a little earlier than you 1225 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 You're getting up earlier and earlier 1226 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000 And then we, you go to your room 1227 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000 I go to my man cave, you go to your she cave 1228 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000 And you get in the Word, and I get in the Word 1229 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000 And then as we're getting ready, things come out 1230 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000 We start talking about it 1231 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000 What did you get? What do you listen to? 1232 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,000 What's speaking to you? 1233 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000 It always comes out in our conversation 1234 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000 Whether while we're cooking, while we're driving to the office, whatever 1235 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000 And then we do that life together 1236 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000 And so, people who are newer to the faith 1237 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000 Are trying to figure out, well, so do you do a devotional together? 1238 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,000 Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't 1239 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000 Sometimes we don't 1240 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000 It just depends 1241 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,000 It depends 1242 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,000 Different seasons 1243 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000 And right now we're not doing anything 1244 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000 And I don't think you always have to 1245 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,000 I don't either 1246 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000 I think you do what's right for you at that time 1247 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,000 And sometimes, you know, we'll go, you know what? 1248 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,000 Let's do this one together 1249 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000 And we'll do it 1250 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000 We did two years of the whole Bible together 1251 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,000 We did, yeah, it was awesome 1252 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000 And then we decided, let's just do some different things 1253 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,000 And what I love about it is we're always sharing together out of our experience 1254 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:21,000 And so, that intimacy with Jesus, that intimacy with God and the Holy Spirit 1255 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,000 It literally spills over and paves the way for us to have intimacy with one another 1256 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Absolutely 1257 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,000 And I think without that, I can't even imagine doing life without that 1258 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,000 I know, I can't either 1259 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000 Because what it does, it gives us a singular focus 1260 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000 We're on the same page, we're going the same direction 1261 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:45,000 But I know also there's people listening whose spouse is not on the same page 1262 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,000 So what would we say to them in terms of what they're struggling with and their walk with God? 1263 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000 How does that flesh out? 1264 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000 Keep your faith, keep your faith 1265 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Keep praying for your spouse 1266 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,000 I mean, we prayed for my dad for so many years 1267 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,000 We didn't see it as soon as we wanted to 1268 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000 But boy, it came to fruition right before his death 1269 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000 Right at the end, my goodness 1270 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000 And we didn't know he was going to die two weeks later 1271 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,000 He didn't know he was going to die two weeks later 1272 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,000 But don't give up, but allow Jesus to be that lover in your life 1273 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:24,000 And too, if you're in a relationship where you're not getting support spiritually from your spouse 1274 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,000 And you want that, you desire that, you want to be on the same page 1275 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000 Don't give up 1276 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,000 Don't give up 1277 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Never give up 1278 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000 Stay the course 1279 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:40,000 Those three words, stay the course, I would say is one of the clearest words from God I've ever heard in my life 1280 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000 And I use it daily 1281 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000 Stay the course 1282 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,000 And pray for them 1283 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:56,000 Can you imagine the impact if believers, believing believers prayed for the people that they're frustrated with or they're disconnected from 1284 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,000 If they prayed for their spouse as much as they put energy into other things 1285 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000 Can you imagine the difference? 1286 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:09,000 Can you imagine the difference if we prayed for our president that he would be saved and transformed by Jesus 1287 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:15,000 As much as we criticize and judge and write post memes about him 1288 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000 Can you imagine the difference that could make? 1289 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000 But I say that about our spouse 1290 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,000 In my first marriage, I believed, I thought we would be okay 1291 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000 I thought we could make it and we'd been married 10 years 1292 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,000 She walked away 1293 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,000 She walked away, I was all in, I was not going to walk away 1294 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,000 Even though it was hard, I was like, no, no, I'm not quitting, I didn't quit 1295 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,000 And I want to encourage you if you're in a hard situation 1296 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000 Unless there's abuse 1297 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:47,000 Unless there's abuse, and there I would get counsel from a trusted pastor or trusted counselor 1298 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,000 Not necessarily your friends because they're all going to just pat you on the back 1299 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,000 But people who can speak truth into your life, I would definitely do that 1300 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:02,000 But if there's not that in it, I would encourage you to pray, pray, stand, believe 1301 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,000 Treat them with the honor and respect that you would like for them to treat you with 1302 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000 Don't bash them over the head with the Bible 1303 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000 Don't try to drag them to church 1304 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000 Don't try to, don't go where you're not invited 1305 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000 That's just one of my life mottoes 1306 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000 Don't go where you're not invited 1307 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000 I noticed you're looking at your watch, you think you're going to land the plane on this? 1308 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000 First of all, we've got some thank yous to say 1309 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,000 And I, man, can I share scripture right before we do it? 1310 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Because this scripture, really, I wanted to share at the beginning, but there wasn't a place 1311 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Proverbs 23 says this, 23, 7 says, 1312 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,000 For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he 1313 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000 We've been talking about intimacy, we've been talking about the mind wars 1314 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,000 What's going on as a man thinks in his heart, which is the mind 1315 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,000 As a man thinks in his mind and his heart, so is he 1316 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,000 And so we want to encourage you to be transformed by the renewing of your mind 1317 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,000 That's at Romans 12 to by spending time in God's Word 1318 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000 It will change your life 1319 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,000 And any way we can help you and encourage you to do that 1320 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Feel free to write us an email, go to our website, livingupinadownworld.com 1321 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,000 There's a place where you can write us right there on the front page 1322 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,000 You can subscribe to our email list and we'll let you know a day in advance 1323 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,000 Or the same day sometimes that we're releasing a podcast 1324 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,000 And you can sign up for that, but you can also write us 1325 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000 We love hearing from you 1326 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,000 It's life-giving, it's never a nuisance, don't ever feel like what you're sharing is too little or too much 1327 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,000 Just feel free to reach out, we want to hear from you because we're here to help 1328 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,000 And so we've got some beautiful thank yous to give out 1329 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,000 And I want to just, and just one other thing I want to just promote 1330 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,000 I want to say bridgefbg.com 1331 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,000 And you can watch or listen to all the messages that I've done over the years 1332 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Bridgefbg.com right there on the front page 1333 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:01,000 Somebody else, another couple that we always want to talk about are our friends 1334 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000 Our best friends Adam and Tina Curry 1335 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Who had they not have encouraged us, we would not have a Living Up and a Down World podcast 1336 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,000 And so just such love from those guys and love doing life with them 1337 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000 And they have a couple podcasts that I want to recommend 1338 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,000 One is No Agenda, and again that's with Adam and his friend John Dvorak 1339 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,000 Where they do media deconstruction, you can find that on any platform 1340 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,000 And man, my favorite all-time podcast, this is really how I got to know Adam and Tina 1341 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000 Is Curry and the Keeper 1342 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,000 And check them out, Curry and the Keeper, they've got curryandthekeeper.com 1343 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,000 Or you can find them on any of your podcast platforms 1344 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,000 We recommend a value for value platform, Podcasting 2.0 1345 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,000 Things like Cast-O-Matic or Fountain 1346 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,000 Where you can actually boost and encourage value for value 1347 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,000 If this podcast is bringing value to you 1348 00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,000 Then you can bring value back to us or to them or whoever you're listening to 1349 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,000 Through sharing, through giving 1350 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000 And so that's our website, livingupandadownworld.com 1351 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,000 Also I do daily devotionals on there 1352 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,000 If you want a daily word, and they're hot off the press 1353 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,000 That's the first thing I do, I get up in the morning, get in the word 1354 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000 And I write a devotional every day, I've done it for over 20 years now 1355 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000 And so just click on the blog tab in livingupandadownworld.com 1356 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,000 And you'll see the daily divos every day, they're very short to the point 1357 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,000 There's always a graphic that I like to do with Scripture 1358 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000 Just to encourage you 1359 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,000 And so if you want to get started on the Living Up and a Downworld Podcast episode 1360 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000 All 51, after I upload this one 1361 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,000 All 51 episodes are right there, and you can do that 1362 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,000 And then be sure and sign up for our Living Up newsletter 1363 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000 And pass this to other people 1364 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,000 If you know, have friends and family who would benefit from these conversations 1365 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000 And us going there on some stuff, yeah, get it out there 1366 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000 Definitely 1367 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,000 Oh, you just... 1368 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,000 No, I just said definitely 1369 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,000 You're supporting me, I love it 1370 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,000 Yes, yes 1371 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000 I love it too, isn't it cool? 1372 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,000 I feel like there's a heavenly cloud over us 1373 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000 We have this amazing drop light over us 1374 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,000 You should take a picture of it, put it in the newsletter 1375 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,000 I will, we'll do that in just a sec, this is very cool 1376 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000 So anyway, I just got it put together, so I'm happy about it 1377 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000 George Kirchner, another one of our favorites 1378 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000 He's a member of our church 1379 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000 He came up to me Sunday and just said 1380 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,000 Precious 1381 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,000 Talked about my video and how much he enjoyed it 1382 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,000 Listen to what he said, he wrote this in on our Living Up Podcast 1383 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,000 Or Living Up Down World Podcast website, there it is 1384 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000 He says, this is for Annette 1385 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000 Just finished watching the video of your testimony 1386 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,000 And I wanted to let you know how touched I was 1387 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000 By the way, the Lord has worked in your life 1388 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,000 Because you were willing to invite him in 1389 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,000 I pray that this video gets spread around 1390 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,000 So that others can hear of God's goodness and love for us 1391 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,000 Thank you for being open and sharing a very hurtful time in your life 1392 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,000 Please rest assured that you will be blessed for your faithfulness 1393 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,000 In his name, George 1394 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,000 I love that 1395 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,000 He's a sweet man 1396 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000 He is such an encourager 1397 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,000 They are precious 1398 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,000 We've got a boostagram from Sir T.J. The Raffle 1399 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,000 He's a big time Noah Jindiguy 1400 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,000 And an amazing musician as well with a striper boost 1401 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:18,000 That's 7,777 satoshis 1402 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000 People have said, what are satoshis? 1403 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,000 It's a denomination of Bitcoin 1404 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,000 And on any of the Value for Value podcast 2.0 platforms 1405 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,000 You can actually send satoshis to say, hey, we value what you're doing 1406 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000 And so, anyway, thank you, Sir T.J. 1407 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000 He wrote this 1408 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,000 Hey, y'all, I've listened to every episode 1409 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000 Love you both and your podcast 1410 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000 I emailed you almost a year ago 1411 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000 And Jimmy encouraged me to endure 1412 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,000 Which I'm determined to do more than ever 1413 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,000 As challenges seem to somehow get bigger 1414 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,000 I can't remember if I've boosted before 1415 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000 So just wanted to send some value 1416 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,000 T-Y-F-Y-E-A-C 1417 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,000 Thank you for your encouragement and your courage 1418 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,000 Again, I love it 1419 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000 We appreciate the striper boost 1420 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000 And then, Annette, I don't know if you know this or not 1421 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,000 We've got a boostagram today from somebody called The Keeper 1422 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,000 Oh, wow! 1423 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,000 Isn't that cool? 1424 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000 50,000 sats 1425 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,000 We love Tina Curry 1426 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000 She's one of our dearest friends 1427 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,000 Our besties 1428 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,000 Besties, that's right 1429 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,000 She wrote Happy Birthday, Pastor Jimmy 1430 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Adam and I love experiencing life with you 1431 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,000 And...I lost my place 1432 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Life with you and Annette, my bad 1433 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000 I was looking at something else 1434 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,000 And by the way, someone here is super happy 1435 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,000 That you're back to Recording Weekly 1436 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000 Who could that be? 1437 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,000 Who could that be? 1438 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,000 Who would be happy about us recording again? 1439 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Oh, Adam Curry 1440 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000 And she says, KYBO 1441 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000 KYBO 1442 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,000 Keep your bucket overflowing 1443 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000 KYBO 1444 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,000 That leaky bucket 1445 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,000 Keep your bucket overflowing 1446 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,000 That's so funny 1447 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000 It's so cheesy, but I love it 1448 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,000 Wow! 1449 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,000 Keep your bucket overflowing 1450 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,000 Now we're turning into a variety show 1451 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,000 No, I know, here we go 1452 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000 From David Wicker, I love David Wicker 1453 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000 He wrote in, he also goes by Sir By His Grace 1454 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,000 He's a big No Agenda, a Kareen Keaper fan as well 1455 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,000 And a listener, and just a great guy 1456 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,000 Great brother in Christ 1457 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000 He said, thank you for the plug 1458 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,000 Now what he's referring to, last week we plugged 1459 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,000 His wife's new effort, nonprofit 1460 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000 Called Pushback for Liberty.com 1461 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,000 And that's Pushback for, with the number 4 1462 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,000 Liberty.com 1463 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000 And what she's doing, she's just trying to equip parents 1464 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000 About what's going on in our culture 1465 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,000 How they can take a stand, resources, links 1466 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000 It's a new website that's up 1467 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000 So we want to encourage you to go check out 1468 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,000 Pushbackforliberty.com 1469 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,000 And so David Wicker, you are welcome for the plug 1470 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000 And you got another plug 1471 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,000 Because we care about liberty too, and freedom 1472 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,000 And he said, brought my beloved Jules to tears 1473 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,000 Jules, bless you, bless you, bless you in your efforts 1474 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,000 To make a difference 1475 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,000 She was so excited and it meant the world to her 1476 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,000 You are such a treasure in the hill country 1477 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,000 And beyond ripple effect 1478 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,000 She's got my favorite name 1479 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,000 Oh, Jules, you've always liked that 1480 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,000 Always, I've wanted to change my name to Jules 1481 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,000 I know, you've always said that 1482 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,000 For years 1483 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,000 Which is bizarro, but it is a beautiful name 1484 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000 But you have a lovely name, Annette 1485 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,000 I like the name Jules 1486 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,000 It's easy to remember, because pretend you're falling into 1487 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,000 Maybe I like the name Jules because I like jewelry 1488 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,000 Indeed you do 1489 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:45,000 Jewelry can be expensive, it can be adorning 1490 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,000 There you go 1491 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,000 I don't know, there's 1492 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,000 It's in Kutraman, it's beautiful 1493 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,000 Yes, I just love it 1494 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,000 It's beautiful like you, for sure 1495 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,000 Oh, you're so sweet guys 1496 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,000 Okay, we must go now 1497 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000 Now the last thing he says is K-Y-B-O on purpose 1498 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,000 On purpose, on my house, we'll do it again 1499 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,000 I'm going to do it again, I love it 1500 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000 K-Y-B-O 1501 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,000 It's a happy tune, makes me want to dance 1502 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,000 But I won't 1503 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,000 What did you say? 1504 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000 Makes me want to dance, but I won't 1505 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,000 No, please don't 1506 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000 I'd probably knock my coffee over again on my keyboard 1507 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,000 My knee is hurting from dancing at the tendon bump 1508 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,000 I mean, literally, I had to quit walking and working out on my knee 1509 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000 For weeks because of dancing 1510 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,000 So no more dancing for me 1511 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,000 I don't think you entered it dancing 1512 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000 You entered it at the gym 1513 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,000 I probably re-entered it 1514 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000 Because I saw you were doing bad form on squats 1515 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,000 I wasn't doing bad form 1516 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,000 Yes, you 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