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This is Jimmy Internet and we want to welcome you to the

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Welcome you to Living Up in a Down World and we are at episode number 50.

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We are so excited to be with you. It feels like it has been such a long time.

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It has. It's almost a year. That's a song about Boston, by the way.

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What? Feels like a long time. No, no, no, no, no.

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Oh, yes, yes, yes. Feels like a long time?

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Hello. What song? Tell me which song that is.

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Okay, I'm going to Google it. I guess I don't know that one.

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Yeah. Are you sure? Yes.

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Okay. I'll look it up in a minute while you're talking or something.

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By the way, you're ravishing tonight.

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Aw, ravishing? Ravishing. Gorgeous.

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Wow, what a word. Absolutely gorgeous.

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Wow. Your hair looks great. Your headphones look amazing on your head.

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Wow. Wow, yeah. I'm gorgeous, aren't I?

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You're in podcast mode. At least I have makeup on.

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You've got a microphone in your face. Yes.

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And we're at the church in our studio.

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We're at the Living Up studio or the BCF studio or whatever.

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We decided to come back in on a Thursday night to do this.

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I know. We've had a convergence, four or five months,

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since we got off sabbatical, which ended in late August.

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September 3rd. It ended the beginning of September, right?

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I have to tell you though, when I was visiting,

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we had Tina and Adam at our house the other night.

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Yeah, great time. And I spent a lot of time with Tina.

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Well, and I spent some time with her today and she said,

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Adam really wants you all to go back to every week because he feels like you're losing momentum.

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And I said, we probably will.

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We just have to get back in a rhythm with all the construction.

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I know. And then we had guys here all day in our office.

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We were going to record this morning. And we couldn't.

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And I walk in and there's a dude sitting on our couch like he made himself right at home.

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He did. Did he have some coffee in his hand too?

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I know. I was like, dude, what are you doing in my office slash studio?

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He's just waiting on Pastor Russ to help him.

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Oh, I know. I'm just kind of sitting here, but we're just waiting. I'm like, dude.

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Well, we're hardwiring the office studio.

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It's part of the, it's got to be done.

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There's so much that we're doing. And we got acoustic panels in today that are beautiful.

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They're amazing. This room is going to be dead air, dead space.

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Well, and every time we think we're done, we're like, no, we need this.

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Well, we found out when you build out a studio, it's a bottomless pit and a black hole.

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I'm kind of upset. I'm upset though.

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Because I wish we would have made it bigger.

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But because we put this wood paneling on here, we can't do anything about it.

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And it would have been great if we could have gone another five feet.

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It would have been, could have been, should have been. It's working though.

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And it's fabulous, really. We're so, so thankful that we get to do this.

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And our daughter who runs all of our production, she's kind of invaded our office now.

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She's a kid in a candy. Yeah, we can't get her out of here.

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It's like she moved back home from college. Oh wait, that did happen.

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She's back with us again. They always come back.

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No, I'm just, I'm even looking around right now. Just so thankful. It's just, it's amazing.

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So we were going to record this morning. I was uber stoked. I was ready.

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I had like three cups of black raffle coffee. I was so ready.

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And then, oh, oh, the guys are here putting in the, I'm like, what?

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And I thought, oh, this will be an hour. They left at 3.30.

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All day long. And they're still not finished. They have to come back.

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On Monday. So anyway, all smiles. Yay. Hey, this stuff's got to be done though.

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But anyway. Well, this started off as a green room.

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Then it turned into an office, then a studio. And it's just...

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And now it's got a full kitchen and bar over here. Oh my God.

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I know. It's a coffee bar. We have a coffee bar. We made a coffee bar.

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We made a coffee bar. We put a refrigerator in here for our drinks.

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We could live here basically. We just need a shower.

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I told Pastor Russ, if we put a shower in this place, I'm here.

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Look how much money we could save. Oh my God. Honey, we did that before.

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We lived in a church before. Remember? We could take one of these couches back

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by a, what do you call those, those couches that have the beds in it?

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I don't remember. Sleeper sofa. Yes, we could buy one of those.

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Yeah. Put a... Honey, yeah. No. I just so agree with everything.

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Think of the money we could save. You're so funny.

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What about the bathroom you're about to redo? In the kitchen you're going to...

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I have a bathroom I just redid here. I know. No, I am. I know.

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Lord. So, big celebration. We hit a mark. We hit a milestone.

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What? Episode number 50.

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Do you think 50 is the milestone or is 52? No, 50. I mean like when you turn

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the big 5-0, Hawaii 5-0. Hello. I mean 5-0, I don't have a grip.

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I thought you were going to play Hawaii 5-0. Well, that's before the next

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So I went home. I had to study. I had to study for the message on Sunday,

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which I'm totally stoked about the new series. I am too. It's called Mind Wars.

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Winning the battle of the mind. Boy, do we ever have wars in our mind.

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Every day. I can't wait for Sunday. All three services.

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We've had three services. Yeah. Three times. It's a lot harder than we thought.

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Wow. Boy, add another hour and 15-minute service tacked onto the tube.

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I had no idea it was going to be that hard. I'm glad I'm in the best shape of my life.

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Yes. I can't imagine. And you know, I was telling people today,

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it's not physically hard because we're in good shape. We have a lot of energy.

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It's mentally. Yeah. Yeah. It's a brain drain. Because you're with more people

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I know. It's crazy. Build it. They'll come. You may have to go to four.

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Let's not talk about that right now. I'm already PTSD. So I'm good.

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I'm so happy though about it because it is so fun. Let me put it this way.

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When you think God has said something to you, but I've never heard an audible voice.

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I don't get it clear like that. Some people do. Some people do.

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And I just say, wow, now how? I have an impression. I have an impression.

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Yeah. I'll have an impression or a thought or I'll hear something

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multiple times from different sources. And you'll go, wait, I know. I didn't think that.

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Right. It's too smart. It's definitely not me. But what happens is then when you

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lean into it, into obedience and it works and it's confirmed that it was the Lord.

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Man, there's nothing like that.

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Well, it's crazy because our elders were like, well, people are asking,

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You say to them, we're making room. Well, after the first Sunday and we gained 150 people.

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Well, we set a record. They came to us and said, we made room.

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We did it. Yeah. We get it now. Thank you. Thank you for trusting us.

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Because, you know, it's hard on them too. It is hard on everybody because it's a lot more.

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And they're older than we are. And so it is hard. That's why they're elders. Right.

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But yeah, I mean, it is. It's taxing. But man, what a blessing.

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We're getting so many new people. And of course, what Annette and I do is

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in between the services, we bounce out into, we have this place called,

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we call it the Connect Center. It's this big foyer that's really cool.

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It's got screens and tech and greeters and resources and stuff.

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It's a big resource thing. But we go out there and we just meet everybody we can.

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We turn it into a party. And so from the moment we get here,

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we don't turn it off until we drive out of the parking lot.

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And there's very little downtime. There is.

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Because we only have time to go to the, you know what, the Little Wrangler's Room.

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We've only built 15 minutes in and we really need to build 30 minutes in.

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Oh, no doubt. Because 15 is not enough.

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The thought of doing that right now is insane.

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We may have to change our times.

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I know we may have to look at it, but that's, yeah. I mean, yeah.

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Faith just walked in. Hey, Faith, how's it going?

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Do you think we need to change our times and add 15 more minutes to our in-between time?

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She's like yes, because she does production. So there's a lot of things she has to do to get ready for that.

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Because there's not enough. You know what I'm most worried about? The parking lot.

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I know. People coming in. We only have one way to come in and out.

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I know. And the city will not let us add another way.

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The city will not let us add a parking exit. It's like really? Come on, guys.

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It's hard. But anyway, so yeah, first world problems, right?

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It is what it is. First world problems.

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It could be a lot worse.

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But we're thankful because even though there's always complications is what we do,

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the blessing of it is we're able to reach more people.

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And the bottom line is my goal has never been to grow a big church.

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But I had a pastor challenge me last year because I made the comment,

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I said, I've never aspired to be a mega church pastor or grow a big church.

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And he just literally looked at her. I was on the phone with him.

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He said, what if God wants to grow a big church? He put you in your place.

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I felt like I got checked into the glass in a hockey game.

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The reason why you say that is because you don't want to be...

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You're not the kind of pastor who is all about the numbers at all.

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You're more about mega people.

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You want people to come to know Christ, to walk with Him,

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to live in a life of hope and victory, not perfect life because nobody has that.

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And so that's not on your radar.

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Where are there a lot of pastors?

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It's all about how many people they have in their church.

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And we're really not...

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And the bottom line is just because we have more people coming doesn't make us successful.

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What makes us successful is if we have people that are becoming disciples,

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they're following Jesus, they're becoming apprentices,

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where they're an apprentice of Jesus, they're following Him.

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They have an actual relationship with Jesus.

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Right. If they're just keyed up over the church

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because we've got the latest whiz-bang technology and LED screen and band and all that stuff,

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if they're coming for that, it's the wrong reason.

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Bye, Faith. She just slammed the door. She did that as a kid.

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Okay. Do you know what I've realized? What?

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We drove all the way back here from the church and we could have brought Chevy.

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Oh, we were not thinking.

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Our whole day got messed up when the next stream guys started messing with the office.

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We could have brought him and he could be sitting in the lap.

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I know. And he would be too.

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Okay. Let's make a pact. Next time we have a podcast.

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Next week?

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We have... Maybe next week.

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I vote next week. We should do this every week. I don't like this two-week thing.

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Okay. We'll try it. I think my schedule is a lot less cluttered next week.

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So I think I'll be able to do that.

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I think that what we're doing is too important.

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And the reason I say that is because of the emails and letters that we're getting from people.

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Not only that, people that stop us in church or at the grocery store.

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That we don't even know have been listening to us.

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I know. It's really strange. But here's what's weird about podcasting.

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So when I'm preaching, I get immediate feedback.

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People say, yes, right pastor, stay on that. You better preach or amen.

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Like Mel and Adam.

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Yeah. Mel screams out, Jesus.

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Yeah. Adam and Mel, they keep me going.

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Bring out the book. Now bring out the mirror.

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Adam with his big arms up in the air and worshiping God and Mel getting excited.

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And people yelling out, bring out the book.

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So you get instant feedback, which keeps you energized.

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And you get, man, you know, if you hit it, you know, you can come back next week and preach.

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It'll be great. Exactly.

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The podcast is different. It's like dead air.

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Crickets. You've got to...

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Here. No, no. Wrong one. Crickets.

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Maybe that's what's supposed to be happening.

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I got to let the boys settle in like hooligans or something.

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But this is what happens sometimes.

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It's like, hmm. But you know what I found out?

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What did you find out?

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They're contacting Adam and Tina and saying, what is going on? Are they okay?

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Are the prudes okay?

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We're okay.

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We're great, actually. We're so...

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Okay, you all have to understand, we have another full-time job, both of us.

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And it's running a church that's growing, which is exciting.

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It's kind of what...

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It's what you aspire to as a young minister going through college and grad school.

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And all of a sudden, you know, you get in out in the real world

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and you get your first church and it's a flop or a failure.

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Which we had that.

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Yeah, you learn how to shrink a church real fast

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because really what happens is you realize you don't know what you're doing.

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None of us know what we're doing.

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It takes years of this to really find what works and find what helps people.

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And some bangs and bruises.

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Yes.

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I mean, really.

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We have real-life stories of things that have happened in church

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that you would think should not happen in church because it's church.

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It should never happen.

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People are people.

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And so we have bumps and bruises, but we did not allow...

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We did not let that allow us to...

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I know.

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We didn't walk away.

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I know.

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We said, no, we love the people.

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We love the bride.

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We do.

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She may have a few bumps and bruises, but she's still beautiful to Jesus.

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So she's beautiful to us.

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And we love what we get to do.

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Yes.

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Segue a little bit.

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I'm going to...

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What are you doing over there?

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So I'm going to say something just a little bit different

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because I want to talk about your video testimony.

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But before we do that, I've got to talk about our dinner with the Currys.

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Okay.

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So we don't have as active a social life as the Currys.

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Oh, they're every night.

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We can't do that.

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But we're with people all day long.

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So when we come home, it's like the thought of going out and being with people.

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I mean, that's what we do all day.

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So it's a different social life.

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Ours is during the day.

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Theirs is at night.

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But we try to get together once a week, once every couple of weeks.

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But man, life happens for both of us.

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And so it's been a while since we sat down.

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How long has it been?

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I don't know.

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A couple of weeks.

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Yeah.

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Has it been that long?

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Well, I don't know.

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I mean, Adam and I talk by text every day.

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We kick off our morning talking.

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Yeah, we talk and her and I do too.

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But anyway, it's different than when you actually get to sit down.

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So we had them over at our house.

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We go to their house a lot.

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So we had them over at ours.

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And I rock some steaks on the Pellet Grill.

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What else is new?

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That's every day.

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Makes me salivate.

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But I love our conversation about God.

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Me too.

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Every time I always say that mine and Adam's topics are God the world and other things.

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And it's mainly God.

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And we always end up back at God.

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We start at God, we end up back at God.

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And that's what I love about our relationship.

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That's the value about having friends that are godly.

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That are disciples.

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And that are true disciples, not people that just go to church.

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Or don't just use the name Christian.

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Yes.

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You literally talk about things in the Bible that you're learning.

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That is such a valuable asset.

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It's hard to find people like that.

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You're right.

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That want to spend time with us because they might feel intimidated.

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Not by me, but by you.

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Because you're the pastor, you're the preacher.

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But when you do find those, it's like gold to me.

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So I so enjoyed our time.

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Every time we get together, I leave invigorated.

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I leave energized.

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Well this time you didn't leave because they were at our house.

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That's true.

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But I went to bed energized and just elevated.

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That's what good friends do.

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I'm just so proud of those guys.

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Every time we talk and I hear stories of what's going on.

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Tina's been dealing with some health challenges.

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She talks about that a lot on Curry and the Keeper.

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Which by the way, you need to be checking out.

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If you follow us but you don't follow them, we want to recommend,

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listen to Curry and the Keeper, two of our dearest friends.

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It's like a variety show.

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Oh yeah, no doubt.

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We're all on a journey together.

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Not just the podcasting thing, but just life.

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Doing life together.

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Dealing with challenges.

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Right now she's got some health challenges.

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You've had some off and on here.

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And then me and Adam are just, we're kind of like Energizer bunnies.

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We just keep on going.

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It's not fair. Why is it always the women?

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Why?

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Well I don't know.

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But here's what I would say is that when you're going through those kind of things,

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it's good to know you've got friends that will come around you and support you.

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It's true.

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And I want to walk with you and do what we can to help.

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I woke up at 3, a little after 3 this morning.

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That was my life for two nights last week.

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My gosh, I'm so sorry.

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It's been my last two days.

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I was 4 o'clock yesterday.

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I think it's because I'm so excited about life.

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I'm just straight up.

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So you can't wait to get up and get started.

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I can't wait to get up because I love...

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And you did at 4.41. You were out the door.

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My morning time with Jesus is getting longer and longer because it's not just because I...

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I don't just do like a U-version Bible check, the box.

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I mean I love God's Word and I love to write my daily devotional.

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All that's really important to me.

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And the more I walk with Him and the longer I grow and walk, I want more time with Him.

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And if I have to...if I've got to be at the office and we've got a lot of things,

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we had meetings this morning, you know, and then took a delivery today.

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And we had a lot of things moving parts where had I not have gotten up early,

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I wouldn't have had that time.

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And I need it. I need it. I need it to live.

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It's like oxygen to me.

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It is. It is.

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But anyway, just wanted to...

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Big shout out to Adam and Tina and just how proud we are of them.

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I call them our kids.

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I do.

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I do it all the time.

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Well, we are older than them.

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Just barely.

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Well, but we are older than them.

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We are.

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And therefore, they're our kids.

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And so I'm just...well, and I mean more spiritually than anything.

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I'm just so proud of their growth.

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And so, Curry and the Keeper, check them out.

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You can pick them up on any podcast platform.

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And you will be blessed.

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You will be encouraged.

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And that's how I got to know them.

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We started listening to them before we knew them.

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Yes.

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And then by the time we met, I felt like I already knew them.

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That's true.

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Because they hang it all out there.

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And so anyway, give them a listen.

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So we had a great time.

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We had stakes.

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And then we had conversation that just was just off the...just off the chisang.

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It was amazing.

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So anyway, love those guys.

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Had to bring that up and just shout out for them.

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So we were blessed.

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And we talked about this on our last show, didn't we?

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That we'd gone to the studio.

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Yes.

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Yeah, but we didn't have a finished product.

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We didn't know where it was.

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So Annette and I were invited by Israel Media Ministries.

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It's a ministry we've just started supporting, and it is a media ministry.

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I mean, it's all a lot of online pieces, a lot of video, music, and recording.

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And they do a lot of amazing creative projects.

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They're taking the Hebrew Bible and they're illustrating it so that people like us who are not Hebrew can actually see it, read it, and get something out of it.

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Amazing, amazing ministry to Israel.

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And Zaev, who leads that ministry, he's the founder, he's from Jerusalem.

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He grew up in Jerusalem and now he lives in the States.

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And maybe relocating to Fredericksburg, Texas.

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Sounds like it.

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God's drawing him here.

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At least within the next couple of years.

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Sometimes people tend to come here.

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And so yeah, we'll see what's going to happen with that.

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But anyway, he invited us.

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He does a series called Freedom in Yeshua.

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Is that what it is?

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Freedom in Yeshua.

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I don't remember the name of it.

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It's really cool.

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It's a, we would say freedom in Jesus, but you know, Jewish folks are going to say Yeshua.

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Jesus.

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And so we went to a studio, San Antonio WIT Studios, which was amazing, very professional.

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And Annette told her story.

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Started off, I'm Annette Pruitt and this is my story.

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And then she just unscripted launched into her story.

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And it was, it was dynamic.

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For me, what was remarkable is that...

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And you've heard it a million times.

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A lot.

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Kind of like you've heard all my messages or you've heard all my little isms, my pastor J isms.

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But what was cool about it was even though I've heard it all those times, just hearing you and it being in a different setting, being in a professional studio,

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and just with all the technology, which I was geeking out over, I cried.

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I mean, there were several times I teared up hearing you talk about your dad.

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Which is unbelievable because when I was telling my story, I was trying to be very deliberate in how I was communicating.

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And I was also very composed.

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I didn't cry.

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I didn't respond.

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I wasn't really emotional.

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Not, not too emotional.

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I mean, I was trying to keep myself together so that I could tell this story with poise.

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But then when I...

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And you did.

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But when he sent us the rough cut of it with the vignettes in it and the music and it literally, when I saw it, I broke down as if I was watching someone else play out my life.

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And it hit me hard.

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We were in the kitchen.

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I was crying.

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You started crying.

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You were holding me.

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I've never had that happen.

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That was beautiful.

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But the quality of this video was, it was almost like I was watching a dateline.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, it's totally professionally done.

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Yes.

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And it was a great experience being in the studio like that.

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It's our first time to do something specifically like that.

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And before we get too deep into it, I want to direct people where they can go to watch it.

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And so if you subscribe to our newsletter, which you can go to livingupinadownworld.com, and I'll put that link on there.

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I'll add the link.

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Oh, that's a good idea.

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I'll get Faith to add the link to our website.

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But you can go to livingupinadownworld.com and subscribe to our newsletter.

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It's simple.

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It's free.

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You just subscribe.

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I'll put you on the email list.

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It's a short newsletter.

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It's short.

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Very little information.

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It's basically a reminder and some pictures of what's going on.

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What's going to happen with the next episode.

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Yeah, it's just to remind you we've got an episode about to release.

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So I just do one a week or one every two.

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It depends on when we're recording.

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So we don't inundate you with all this.

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Yeah, we're not going to smother you with stuff.

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We're not like that.

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We don't have the time to do that.

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Right.

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So anyway, I'll put the...

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We'll get that on the site.

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The link to the video.

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The link.

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And it will also be in the next few.

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I'll just add it as a permanent piece to the newsletter.

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So when you get the newsletter, you'll have it on there.

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And I wasn't sure if I really wanted you to do that.

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Well, I didn't do it on the basic... on the typical social media platforms.

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I let them do it on their YouTube channel.

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Yeah, so it is on YouTube.

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Yeah, you can go to YouTube.

475
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,000
And if you'll go to Israel Media Ministries, that's their page.

476
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,000
.com

477
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000
No, no, no.

478
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000
No, that's Israel Media Ministries on YouTube.

479
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,000
Oh, YouTube.

480
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Just do the YouTube search.

481
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000
And it'll take you right to their page.

482
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
And you'll see Annette on there.

483
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,000
And it's called From Despair to Deliverance.

484
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Yeah, but you'll see it.

485
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000
Which he named it after hearing my story.

486
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000
It's powerful.

487
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:46,000
Well, what was remarkable, okay, so you and I cried watching the playback on it, the rough cut.

488
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000
I haven't even seen the full cut yet.

489
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000
I have not been able to...

490
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000
Wow, you've been busy.

491
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000
I'm afraid I'm just going to be in a fetal position.

492
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Yeah, you're going to fall apart.

493
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000
I need to look at the real thing.

494
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,000
I need to watch the real cut.

495
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,000
So what was remarkable is the guy that's the audio tech at the studio, he's the studio manager as well.

496
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000
It's his studio.

497
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000
But they just use a random studio.

498
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Right, they just hired out the studio.

499
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000
It's not something that they go to regularly.

500
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
Well, I look over to that dude, he's crying.

501
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000
I look over, you're making a lot of noise with your microphone.

502
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,000
I'm sorry.

503
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
Moving stuff around.

504
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Sorry.

505
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000
Sorry.

506
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000
I'm going to have to tie your hands together.

507
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000
I know you are.

508
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Wait, you're moving your hands a lot too.

509
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Under the table.

510
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000
I'm not touching anything.

511
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000
Okay, whatever.

512
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000
Anyway.

513
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000
So I look over and say, Ev is crying.

514
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,000
I mean, everybody, we're all crying listening to you tell your story.

515
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000
And so I love that they went ahead and produced yours first.

516
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000
They're doing mine as well, so it'll probably be next week or so.

517
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,000
But I was thrilled that they jumped on yours and got it done.

518
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
So I want to encourage everyone.

519
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,000
First of all, I'm super proud of my wife because she was a pro.

520
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000
And it was from the heart.

521
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000
It was real.

522
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000
It was.

523
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000
And it wasn't rehearsed.

524
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000
No.

525
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000
I didn't have anything in front of me.

526
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:11,560
He said, this is the way he put it, just act like we're sitting having coffee or you're

527
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,720
having coffee with a friend and the friend says, hey, tell me your story.

528
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,200
Tell me about your life and just tell it.

529
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,800
And so I wasn't nervous.

530
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,000
I was nervous before.

531
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000
And then once I sat down, I was like, easy peasy.

532
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000
Well, it's camera action and you were just like off to the races.

533
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000
Now I'm more nervous about it.

534
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,000
I don't know.

535
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:37,600
Just what, just having watching it, having watched it the other day, just it really got

536
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,600
to me.

537
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,000
Well, I'm going to ask you to do something right now that I'm interviewing you.

538
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,880
And so, so I got to hear it.

539
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,400
I got to see it.

540
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,440
And a lot of people who follow our podcast maybe have gone back to the first few episodes

541
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,600
when we shared, you shared that story.

542
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,600
I did.

543
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,920
And so I'm going to ask you to share a shorter version of it.

544
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,440
Just maybe what's standing out to you just today, maybe different tomorrow, maybe different

545
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,440
yesterday.

546
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,440
Okay.

547
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,840
And this is the way I'm going to start it because I had a woman approach me yesterday

548
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,920
that I ran into.

549
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:20,880
Don't know her real well, but I've had occasional talks with her and she informed me that she's

550
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,960
been listening to our podcast.

551
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:31,520
And she said, I remember a podcast you did last year, because we've been doing this for

552
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:37,920
a year, but this was early on when you shared your story about how there was so much violence

553
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:45,440
in the home that while things were going on in the background, you were at the window

554
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,880
of your bedroom as a child.

555
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:55,440
Because it all started, I mean, it all really, the violence started when my sister was born

556
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,520
and her and I are 13 years apart.

557
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,400
Then it continued into my childhood.

558
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,360
And I remember there was a time when I would stand by the window and pray.

559
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,920
I didn't really know God.

560
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,400
I didn't know, but you know, you just sort of like hoping that a policeman would drive

561
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,320
by and you could just raise up your hands and say, help me.

562
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,900
And she said, I remember hearing that.

563
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:29,720
And she said, it struck me because I live that same life as a child.

564
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,760
And she said, and I'm never told a soul what was really happening at home.

565
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,160
She connected with your story.

566
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,960
She connected with your pain.

567
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:49,240
And I think that there are hundreds of thousands, if not across the world, millions of females

568
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,800
who were victimized, who were abused, who were traumatized.

569
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,640
The stats, remember when we did the life enrichment center, it was one in four.

570
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200
I think it's way higher than that now.

571
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,440
That was back in the early 2000s.

572
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Three in four.

573
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:12,040
I mean, there's hardly a human being I've met through the years that haven't eventually

574
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,000
said to me, pastor, I've never told anybody this, but I was molested when I was a kid

575
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,520
by a neighbor or by an uncle.

576
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,280
I mean, it's just, it's so prolific and so rampant.

577
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,760
The condition, the broken condition of humanity, it doesn't mean humanity is evil.

578
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,280
It just means they're broken.

579
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Well, think about this woman.

580
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,880
Broken people break people.

581
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,880
That's right.

582
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,060
This woman is in my generation.

583
00:28:35,060 --> 00:28:39,560
And our generation kept quiet, which is why I didn't share with people what was really

584
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,080
happening at home.

585
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,480
And what was happening is my dad was an alcoholic.

586
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,080
There are functional alcoholics where they can function just fine, that their personality

587
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,960
doesn't change, but they drink a lot.

588
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,320
That doesn't mean it's okay, obviously.

589
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,920
My dad was not one of those.

590
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,320
My dad was Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde.

591
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,120
And he drank heavily, when he drank beer, he was fine, but when he drank heavily and

592
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:13,360
added the hard stuff, he turned into a monster.

593
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,160
And every expletive came out of his mouth.

594
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000
He was physically violent.

595
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000
He was mainly towards my mom.

596
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,760
But what happened with me, which was so crazy, and my mother shared me with this before,

597
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:35,120
because I remember talking to her saying, I live with such fear, and I can't get over

598
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,660
this fear.

599
00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:40,480
And she shared with me where she thought it entered.

600
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,840
The root of fear comes somewhere.

601
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:50,200
It comes from some kind of trauma that has happened in your life, that promotes fear

602
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,200
into your life.

603
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,840
And she said, when I was six months old, which I would not remember at all, but when I was

604
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:02,440
six months old, I'm laying in a crib, my dad comes home, he gets angry at my mom, I'm in

605
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,480
a crib, and he gets a gun and puts it to my head.

606
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:13,840
As a six month old, and tells my mom he's going to kill me, probably her and himself.

607
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480
He was in a drunken rage.

608
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,400
And luckily, I mean, we know the story, obviously he didn't do that.

609
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:27,520
But then when I was six years old, which I do remember, very vivid memories of walking

610
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:34,840
in as my parents, I could hear my dad yelling at my mom, and my sister, who was, you know,

611
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,000
like I said, she's 13 years older, so she's like 19 years old.

612
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:45,520
And I see them in the bedroom, I can still remember the colors in the bedroom.

613
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,360
I remember the smell.

614
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:54,760
I can remember everything, and I walk in and he's got a gun, a rifle pointed at them, and

615
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,720
then now at me, because I walk in right where they are.

616
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,120
I'll never forget that.

617
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,200
Yeah, that you can you cannot unsee that.

618
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,200
I can't.

619
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Or unexperienced that fear and that trauma.

620
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:13,280
Yeah, so the fear I had of him was, it was, I mean, it was trauma and force.

621
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,640
I mean, it was just, I lived with fear all of my life of him.

622
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,640
And when I would call him when he was, he would be working, and I would call and say,

623
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,760
Dad, are you coming home tonight?

624
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Because I knew if he was coming home, we were going to watch TV, he was going to just drink

625
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,600
beer, he would be fine.

626
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,960
But if he said he was going to the country club, that meant he was going to gamble, he

627
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,000
was going to drink heavily with his friends, play cards, come home and all hell would break

628
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
loose.

629
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,480
So I literally would call quite often at night just to find out what was going to happen

630
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440
so I could prepare myself.

631
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,560
You know, I'm young doing this.

632
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,860
And it was so hard.

633
00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:58,760
So I did everything I could to get out of the house, every rebellious act you can do,

634
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,080
which I did many things.

635
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:10,360
And when I finally was able to get out after years of many wrong choices and challenges,

636
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,360
and then I get married to someone who I think, okay, he doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke,

637
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,080
he doesn't do drugs, never has.

638
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,080
He goes to church.

639
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:24,100
He goes to church, we pray together, he goes to a Bible study with me every week.

640
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:26,780
And then we get married.

641
00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:29,400
And it changes.

642
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:36,800
And he had a violent rage in him that actually brought out in me as well.

643
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,400
And a lot of it was because I had trauma in my life that I mean, I didn't know what to

644
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,440
do with my rage.

645
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:52,720
And he had it but it was so bad that the physical and the emotional mental anguish that he caused

646
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,640
was horrific.

647
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,920
But I literally thought, this must be how marriage is.

648
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,720
And it took me 13 and a half years to get out.

649
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,880
I don't know which was worse.

650
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,800
The way my husband and I, our relationship or at home with my father.

651
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,200
Because with my husband, we were still going to church.

652
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,520
We acted like, you know, we acted more like we were brother and sister than we did husband

653
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,520
and wife.

654
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,320
But we live the life that most people live when they come into church.

655
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,720
You don't know what's going on in people's homes.

656
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,720
It's true.

657
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:36,360
Because with my parents, my dad was, you know, agnostic and never went to church.

658
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,360
And he drank.

659
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,240
There was, you know, he had a lot of substances where my ex didn't have any of that.

660
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,040
And so I literally don't know which is worse.

661
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:52,000
All I know is when I got out, it's a miracle I would remarry honestly, especially a pastor.

662
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Because I didn't try I was talking to this person yesterday and I said it took me two

663
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,640
years to trust Jimmy, two years.

664
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:09,320
And she said, when you said that in the earlier podcast, that helped me because I went through

665
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,320
the same thing.

666
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,240
And I thought, what is wrong with me?

667
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:19,480
And she said, and when you said it took you two years, it was like, good, I'm not crazy.

668
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,960
And I said, well, think about it.

669
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:27,000
If you've had all that trauma all your life and you meet someone, you don't trust.

670
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,320
You feel like, okay, are they going to turn like everybody else has in your life?

671
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:41,660
And you do begin to question motives and acts and what's what's going to end up happening.

672
00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:45,440
And I remember many times I thought, okay, this is too good to be true.

673
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Jimmy's there's got to be something in him that's not right.

674
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,800
I couldn't find anything.

675
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,800
I still don't, honey.

676
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,260
I literally still don't because you're you're different.

677
00:34:56,260 --> 00:35:00,360
You're not normal for my normal, my old normal.

678
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,840
I'll just put it that way.

679
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:08,480
You really are set apart from most of the men that I've had in my life.

680
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,520
I'll just all the men I've had in my life.

681
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Thank you.

682
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,520
Very kind.

683
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,520
And I mean that very kind.

684
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,760
And I know you're not perfect because none of us are.

685
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,640
You wake up on the wrong side of the bed every now and then, but not as often as I do.

686
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,000
You've had to put up with a lot with me because of the baggage I've had.

687
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:33,760
But I would say over the last probably 15, 20 years, I've a lot of that baggage has just

688
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,920
dropped off.

689
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,920
It has.

690
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,400
It's been progressive and incremental.

691
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,720
It wasn't like all at one time.

692
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,720
Sometimes people think that healing is a moment.

693
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,640
And truly healing is a process.

694
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,640
It's a journey.

695
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,080
You have to trust the process and realize that God has you on a journey.

696
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,680
You're healed and being healed.

697
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Yes, absolutely.

698
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,800
In His eyes, you're whole.

699
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,400
He sees the end from the beginning.

700
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,400
He does.

701
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,760
But from our perspective, we're still in the process and we're stuck on linear time down

702
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,760
here.

703
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:08,200
And you know, I want to say this to the audience, to the people that are listening.

704
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,480
It's okay to not trust at first because there is this kind of a sixth sense we have and

705
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,480
it's good.

706
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,480
Yeah, it's a safety check.

707
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,480
It is.

708
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,480
And that's okay.

709
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:24,040
It's just not okay if it continues and yet there's nothing that is causing that.

710
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:30,200
And for me, it took about two and a half years with you because I kept thinking, okay, something's

711
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,200
going to happen.

712
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,200
He's going to hit me.

713
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,040
He's going to call me the B word because I heard that all the time.

714
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,680
And I've never heard that come out of your mouth ever.

715
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,960
You've never, ever called me a name.

716
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,120
I don't believe.

717
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Do you remember ever calling in 31 years of marriage?

718
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,200
No, I don't remember it.

719
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
I don't think you've ever called me a name ever.

720
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,540
And so, but I was, that was my whole life, my dad and my ex.

721
00:36:56,540 --> 00:37:04,840
And so it took me two and a half years to trust and really trust that God really had

722
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,160
you for me.

723
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,920
So I want to move this along to what I loved about the video, the interview that you did

724
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,760
was the way you ended it with, well, not just the story about your dad, but the very end

725
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,040
when you said, you said, God is good.

726
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,120
And they even highlighted that on the screen.

727
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,840
God is good.

728
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,840
And there's hope.

729
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,840
There's always hope.

730
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:34,360
And to talk about the goodness of God and how that began to, on your journey, began

731
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:40,040
to get you incrementally healed to where you began to actually be able to receive love.

732
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,960
And once you really be able to receive it, then you're now able to give it.

733
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Well, and I think it really began to happen once I began to trust and then I could lay

734
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:56,560
down anything that was hindering me from trusting and begin to rely on God.

735
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,960
For one, you taught me so much in the word.

736
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:05,600
It was like going to seminary being married to you, honestly, just because you lived the

737
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,360
life of the Bible.

738
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,200
You didn't talk about it in the pulpit.

739
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,400
You actually lived it.

740
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:17,680
And that was something new to me because of what I had grown up with, with my ex and other

741
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680
people in my life.

742
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,060
So you began to show me who God was.

743
00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:27,640
You began to show me who I am in God, my identity.

744
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,400
That changed everything.

745
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,840
When that changed and I began to see the grace of God, which my name, Annette, actually means

746
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,840
full of grace.

747
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,840
I love that.

748
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,840
I love that.

749
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Who knew?

750
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,840
I did.

751
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:46,160
So much grace because of all the horrific mistakes I've made.

752
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:51,440
I needed grace and yet I'm full of it because he gave it to me.

753
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,440
It's beautiful.

754
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,000
I just had a thought.

755
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:03,880
Speak to those, speak to people who are saying, but how?

756
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,440
How did you have a breakthrough?

757
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,200
How did you get through to the other side?

758
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,200
First off, you've got to know who Jesus is.

759
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,660
You've got to get to know him.

760
00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:16,940
You cannot just go to church and expect it to happen.

761
00:39:16,940 --> 00:39:18,680
You need to get in his word.

762
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,880
You need to find a friend that can help you, some accountability, someone that you can

763
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:29,480
get in the word with together, someone stronger than you that can help divide the word because

764
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080
it can be complicated for just anybody.

765
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,160
I mean, there's so much we're still learning and you've been to seminary, you were in school

766
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,160
for what?

767
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,160
10, 12 years.

768
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,160
It's a long time.

769
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,000
And you're still learning.

770
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000
That's what I love.

771
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,000
Always.

772
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,600
This week we learned something new about discipleship versus Christianity.

773
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,480
And so the thing is, is you've got to get in that relationship.

774
00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:00,600
The closer you get to him, the more you know his character and you can walk in the fruit

775
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,240
of the spirit, which is joy, love, peace.

776
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:07,960
You can go on self-control, patience.

777
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,360
You can walk in those things and then you can have that hope.

778
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,480
That hope comes when you begin to fill yourself with the things of God.

779
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,760
But that means you need to let go of the things that are hindering you from that relationship

780
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,760
with God.

781
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:27,640
The way Jesus said it, he said three words to the disciples that he was calling.

782
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,880
He said, come follow me.

783
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:35,320
And then the Bible says that Peter and Andrew, who were brothers, it says they left their

784
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,760
nets.

785
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,040
That was their livelihood.

786
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,040
That was everything.

787
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,080
It's like leaving your job going, come.

788
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,240
And your wife going, wait, wait, how are we going to live?

789
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:46,240
I'm following Jesus.

790
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:47,880
I'm going to trust God.

791
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,920
And that's what it means to become a disciple, is to leave our nets.

792
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,320
And so I've watched you through 31 years of wow.

793
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,120
I've watched this progression.

794
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,480
You've changed so much.

795
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:06,560
I've seen so much growth that used to you couldn't hardly even take a hug from me.

796
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,560
No.

797
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,320
You would stiffen up like a board.

798
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,160
This person that I talked with yesterday, I said, can I hug you?

799
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,560
And this is what I've been doing lately.

800
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,720
I'm not just hugging people.

801
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,080
I'm asking because not everybody's ready for a hug.

802
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Because I know for me, I wasn't for what?

803
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,120
A long time.

804
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,640
Until just about two years ago, basically.

805
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,240
And now I'm like, can I hug you?

806
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,240
I just want to hold you.

807
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,880
It's like your love language now and before it never was.

808
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,080
No, we talked about physical touch.

809
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Your kids would say the same thing who are my stepkids, but they would say, yeah, mom

810
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,680
never.

811
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,680
Mom doesn't touch.

812
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,680
She doesn't.

813
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,680
And boy, have I changed.

814
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,680
You are now.

815
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,680
My gosh.

816
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Which tells you when you really want something, God can move.

817
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,760
Especially if it's, I was reading some scripture yesterday in first Corinthians and how much

818
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,080
he wants to give us the things that are in his will.

819
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,120
If it's in his will, he's going to give it to us.

820
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:09,240
If we ask, if it's not, you know, I mean me asking for a new car, I don't think that's

821
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:10,240
in his will.

822
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:13,680
There's nothing in there that says, oh, you get a new car.

823
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,880
It's going to make you happy.

824
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,880
No.

825
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,720
But if I say, God, I need your love.

826
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,960
He is going to pour it on.

827
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,760
God, mold my character.

828
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,280
He is going to pour it on.

829
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:32,200
And he will use people that have the love of God that will love you through thick and

830
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,200
thin.

831
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,200
He'll use hard things.

832
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,200
And he'll use hard things to craft your character.

833
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,560
And I believe that's what he's doing and he continues to do it.

834
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,560
It's beautiful.

835
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,440
Well, let me just say this.

836
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,120
After this experience with this video and being able to really share once again, knowing

837
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,440
that it's, of course, when we did the video, I didn't know what was going on YouTube.

838
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,000
I thought it was just going on a website.

839
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,400
You did not tell me.

840
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:07,440
But after watching it in the professional, this professionalist of that video, I realized,

841
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,040
okay, Annette, it's time.

842
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,040
It's time for more.

843
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,960
It's time for you to step out.

844
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,120
So I'm moving into women's ministry in our church.

845
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,960
I'm going to speak a little bit in March, in September.

846
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,880
I'm giving my whole testimony.

847
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,560
I'm ready to go full force where I used to be, where I haven't been in many years.

848
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:35,240
And I've been kind of holding back, kind of waiting for God to give me the okay.

849
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:38,520
And I feel like I got the green light.

850
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Yeah, we both did.

851
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Definitely.

852
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Definitely.

853
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:48,560
I don't want to get into my retirement-ish years like 75, 80, whatever this ends up being

854
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,880
for us, and looking back and saying, I regret that I didn't say this.

855
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,960
I regret that I didn't stand up for this.

856
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,720
I wish I would have said what I felt, what I believed about my God and what I believe

857
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:03,720
God wanted.

858
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:10,120
I wish I would have spoken out against unrighteousness and sin in our country and unrighteous laws.

859
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:16,920
And I should have spoken out against abortion rights and the taking of babies.

860
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,160
Exactly.

861
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,640
Or transgender issues.

862
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,760
I had emotions and I kept them to myself.

863
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,760
I had what I believe is godly wisdom and I kept it to myself.

864
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,880
I will not be that person.

865
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,360
I will not go out and leave anything.

866
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,960
I will leave nothing on the table.

867
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,440
Yes, He's given you a voice and we're supposed to be spokesmen for Him.

868
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,160
So He's given us a voice.

869
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,920
We meet Adam and Tina Curry who happen to have invented the podcasting.

870
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Hello.

871
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,440
And now we're using our voice.

872
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,880
Just looking at the rss.com analytics, we're all over the world.

873
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,200
I mean all over the world.

874
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,680
And we're about to do this via video as well.

875
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Yeah, that's what I'm super…

876
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,160
Not today.

877
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,160
I'm pumped about that.

878
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,360
Our studio is still a chaos because we're hanging our final.

879
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:14,040
We got eight more sound panels and we've got this high speed internet thing coming

880
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,560
in that we've got to deal with, the ethernet and all that.

881
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,960
So maybe the next week or two.

882
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,840
Yeah, in the next two weeks we'll go video.

883
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,680
So it'll be also be an audio podcast just like you're hearing right now.

884
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,960
But we'll also have the video version of it that we can put on.

885
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,480
And podcasting 2.0 is what Adam was telling me.

886
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,120
There's great platforms now that support video.

887
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,400
So we'll be able to do that and he's going to hook us up.

888
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,280
But who would have thought, you know, we…

889
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,800
I remember turning in our 50s and I made a comment to you.

890
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,800
You may not remember this.

891
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,800
And I remember saying…

892
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,800
I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday.

893
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,720
But what I remember distinctly saying to you is I have something to say.

894
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,080
Because I think when I was younger I didn't feel like I was legit.

895
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,080
That's true because you always said…

896
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,080
You're copying and parroting.

897
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,920
When I get older people will want to hear what I have to say.

898
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,880
I always felt like I was parroting other people.

899
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,880
You know, that's…

900
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,320
I'm just saying that because they said it.

901
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,320
You had to own it.

902
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,920
You have to find your own voice in what God's putting in you.

903
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,280
And it just takes time to get there.

904
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,000
And so once we got there…

905
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,080
So now we're sitting here with two microphones speaking to the world right now.

906
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,320
So yeah, it's wild.

907
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,120
In a million years I never would have thought we would be doing this.

908
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,120
And here we are.

909
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,360
And I'm looking at you across this table with this gear here and I'm just…

910
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:36,680
I'm giddy that we get to do this together because God called us together.

911
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,040
It's not Jimmy or Annette.

912
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,880
It's always Jimmy and Annette.

913
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,160
And that's the way it will always be.

914
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Because God called us together into this.

915
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,280
Tina said to me yesterday or the day before she was like,

916
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,560
I cannot believe you're going to do video.

917
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,800
You never want to do video.

918
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:57,200
I'm like, well, it's going to be hard because it is hard for me to want to be on camera.

919
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:03,480
But if it gets it out to a different segment of folks…

920
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,480
It will.

921
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,200
Then I've got to do it.

922
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,640
I've got to bypass who I think…

923
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,320
But what I look like or what I sound like.

924
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,320
We got to get over that.

925
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,320
That's part of it.

926
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,320
Those are things we got to get over.

927
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,320
Because all I've been saying is God use me.

928
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,320
Use me.

929
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,320
There it is.

930
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,320
Use my voice.

931
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,240
Because He's not audibly going to speak to everybody, but He is going to speak to us

932
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,800
and have us speak.

933
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,800
Absolutely.

934
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,800
And so…

935
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,320
So we've got something to say and we're saying it right now to the world through podcasting.

936
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,640
Thank you Adam Curry, the pod father.

937
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,640
So carnivore journey.

938
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,480
We haven't been on here in a while.

939
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,960
So man, this is day 205.

940
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,280
205 days straight carnivore.

941
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,280
Wow.

942
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,280
Yeah.

943
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,880
I mean, I still can't believe we get to eat like this.

944
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,760
And we do it without complaining.

945
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,760
I don't complain.

946
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,760
There's nothing to complain about.

947
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,760
The only thing I complained about today is someone wonderful sent us a butcher box meat,

948
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,400
but it was chicken.

949
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,760
And that's not… it's carnivore, but carnivore is more fatty.

950
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,760
We need the fat.

951
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,760
I do more meat.

952
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,760
And I was like, oh…

953
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,880
But it was a beautiful gesture.

954
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:11,880
Yes.

955
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,320
I had someone in church approach me who listens to our podcast and said, I'm doing it.

956
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,280
I'm starting it tomorrow.

957
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,920
I'm going carnivore all the way.

958
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,360
I said, wait a minute.

959
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,080
You need to go keto first.

960
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,680
She goes, I've already been doing keto.

961
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,680
It's beautiful.

962
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,680
I'm ready to go carnivore.

963
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,160
And y'all have inspired me.

964
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,160
So that's good.

965
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,160
You look stunning.

966
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Thank you.

967
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,160
And everybody keeps saying you're shrinking.

968
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,160
I am.

969
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,480
I can't get into a lot of my clothes.

970
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,480
All my new jackets…

971
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,960
I shrunk into my clothes.

972
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,920
They fit better than ever.

973
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,520
Everything was getting a little tight around the belly there last year.

974
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,520
And now they're all…

975
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,520
You can't…

976
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Everything's loose.

977
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,760
You're going to need new jeans before you know it.

978
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,520
Hey, I got one more belt hole that I can…

979
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,880
I still have one more.

980
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:53,880
I can do it.

981
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Well, I bought all these jackets over the summer thinking, well, I will never lose.

982
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,320
You know, I'll be…

983
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,400
No, they're all too big.

984
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,440
I'm going to go get them taken up.

985
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,400
So for those of you who are listening and don't know what the heck we're talking about,

986
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,400
carnivore is simply…

987
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Basically, it's B-B-B-E.

988
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,480
It's bacon, beef, butter, eggs, water.

989
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,480
That's basic carnivore.

990
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,520
That's pretty hardcore.

991
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,800
I add a little pickles.

992
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,800
I like my pickles.

993
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,560
You like your pickles.

994
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,400
And we do like our Lily's chocolate, which is a keto-friendly chocolate.

995
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,920
And that's kind of our snack every now and then.

996
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,800
It's our little indulgence, I guess.

997
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,720
But other than that, it's strict meat.

998
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:35,720
A little bit.

999
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:36,720
I'm hardcore.

1000
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:37,720
Yes.

1001
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:41,160
I'm very committed to this because I've never felt better in my life.

1002
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,440
So anyway, so we started…

1003
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,480
I've only got one video up.

1004
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,640
I've been waiting for the studio to get put together.

1005
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,240
Every time we think it's done, it's not done.

1006
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:51,240
We're so close.

1007
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,960
I'm looking around at all this gear and all these lights.

1008
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,040
So many pretty lights.

1009
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,480
So we got this amazing gear.

1010
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,000
So we're so close.

1011
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,760
We're dialing in cameras, just getting camera settings.

1012
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,200
We had to buy more cameras.

1013
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,000
Yeah, we're three cameras deep now.

1014
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,400
We have three video cameras and two regular cameras?

1015
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,120
No, no, no.

1016
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,640
I thought we had…

1017
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,640
No.

1018
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Okay.

1019
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,640
Our phone didn't count.

1020
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,640
No, I'm talking about what we bought.

1021
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,640
I don't know.

1022
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,640
No, that's other cameras for other things.

1023
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,640
I'm confused for other things.

1024
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,640
Okay.

1025
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,640
Yeah.

1026
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,280
I just know all I do is write checks for cameras.

1027
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,400
So anyway, just so you all know, we're 205 days in and we just recommend it.

1028
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,040
If you're interested at all, I want to recommend you listen to a couple of people.

1029
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,120
You can go on YouTube.

1030
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,120
It's very easy.

1031
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,920
There's a guy named Dr. Ken Berry.

1032
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,920
B-E-R-R-Y.

1033
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,600
Yep, Dr. Ken Berry.

1034
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,440
He's probably kind of the guru from the medical.

1035
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,440
He's the guy I listen to.

1036
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Yeah.

1037
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:53,320
He's a medical industry, was 20 years family practice in Tennessee, and he is by far probably

1038
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,520
one of the most outspoken.

1039
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,040
And now one of your dear friends, Adam Lacey.

1040
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Adam Lacey, Carnivore Today on YouTube.

1041
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,080
He's become a dear friend.

1042
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,040
We're about to do a video with he and Kerry.

1043
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Yeah, he and Kerry Mann.

1044
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Kerry Mann of Homestead Howe is also another big outspoken influencer in the carnivore

1045
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,060
space.

1046
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:16,720
They're traveling here this May, and they're going to come to our studio and our church.

1047
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:20,120
They're going to interview us for a movie, a documentary that's being made about the

1048
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,120
carnivore life.

1049
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,720
If we were even considering quitting, we couldn't do that movie.

1050
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:30,400
So we have a lot of motivation anyway, just the energy level.

1051
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,920
So here's what I had a new thing come to me this week.

1052
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,160
I don't know if I have any time on it.

1053
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,480
I'm just going to introduce it.

1054
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Your why has to be bigger than your why not.

1055
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,760
I like that.

1056
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,280
Instead of your why, your why has to be bigger than your why not.

1057
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,680
Because the why not is that little voice that says, why not have that?

1058
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,680
Why not?

1059
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,680
That's not going to hurt you.

1060
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,520
Why not indulge in that?

1061
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Why not?

1062
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Everybody else is.

1063
00:51:52,920 --> 00:52:03,440
That rings true with our relationship with God too.

1064
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200
So your why has got to be bigger than your why not.

1065
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,240
That came to me this week.

1066
00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:59,240
Thank you, Holy Spirit.

1067
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,160
Kerry Mann Everything.

1068
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,720
How about we pick that up in the next podcast?

1069
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,840
Because we can really riff off of that.

1070
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,840
Mary B Yeah, we sure can.

1071
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,320
Kerry Mann Hey, we love you guys, but I do want to have

1072
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,320
a couple of thank yous.

1073
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,320
Not a lot.

1074
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,520
By the way, value for value.

1075
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,140
If you're on Fountain, you can always share such hoesies.

1076
00:52:18,140 --> 00:52:21,320
If you like what we're doing, man, just share some value with that.

1077
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,560
And we've got several shout outs to give.

1078
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,720
Adam Curry with 77,777 satoshis.

1079
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:32,240
By the way, satoshis are a very small denomination of Bitcoin.

1080
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,800
And so we call that a stropper boost.

1081
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,080
And Adam wrote a note on a booster gram.

1082
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,600
He said, so good to have the gang back together again.

1083
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,280
Loving the sound of the new digs.

1084
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,800
He's talking about the production here in the new studio.

1085
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,040
Can't wait to see it on video.

1086
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,440
Same with us.

1087
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,480
Mr. Adam the Podfather, Curry.

1088
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,680
Also Sir Brian with an I, who I love that guy.

1089
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,680
I love him.

1090
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,680
Mary B He's a good guy.

1091
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Kerry Mann He really is.

1092
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,600
And I'm just seeing growth in him and good things.

1093
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,040
He's on his journey of faith.

1094
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,080
He's growing.

1095
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,760
Sir Brian with an I sent us 3,333 sat.

1096
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,000
Sir Brian, thank you so much.

1097
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,640
We love you.

1098
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,800
And he lives in Austin.

1099
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,580
He's just not too far from us.

1100
00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:17,400
He said, I loved Pastor Brian's sermon this past Sunday.

1101
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,120
By the way, our new associate pastor, Brian Mandale, preached for his first time in nine

1102
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,120
years on Sunday.

1103
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Mary B And you would have thought he preached every week of his life.

1104
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Kerry Mann He crushed it.

1105
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,120
He hit a grand slam.

1106
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,120
Mary B He did.

1107
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Kerry Mann And I'm telling you, I would encourage you, go to our website, bridgefbg.com.

1108
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,720
That's Bridge Church in Fredericksburg, Texas.

1109
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:40,480
And on the front page, scroll down and you'll see the sermons.

1110
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,760
And you should listen to Pastor Brian.

1111
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,880
He said, I love Pastor Brian's sermon this past Sunday.

1112
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,920
Have him fill in any time you need to play hooky.

1113
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,920
Mary B Which is going to be once a month.

1114
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Kerry Mann Absolutely.

1115
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,280
I'd love to meet him.

1116
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,720
His testimony really resonated with me on so many levels.

1117
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,760
It's like he wrote it just for me.

1118
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,180
But I always feel like Pastor Jimmy is speaking directly to me as well.

1119
00:54:01,180 --> 00:54:04,560
God bless the Pruitts, the Mandales and all of God's children.

1120
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,240
KYBO, that's keep your buckets overflowing.

1121
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:09,240
He says, mine is.

1122
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:10,840
Mary B I'm waiting for the jingle.

1123
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,840
Kerry Mann I know.

1124
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,840
Again, time.

1125
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,840
Mary B You have it, don't you?

1126
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,000
Kerry Mann I gotta spend time.

1127
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,000
Mary B Do you have the jingle?

1128
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Kerry Mann I do.

1129
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,000
I've gotta upload it.

1130
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,000
Mary B Okay.

1131
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,000
You're doing it this weekend.

1132
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,800
Kerry Mann I had to replug in everything right now.

1133
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,800
Mary B Okay.

1134
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,800
Well, you're gonna do it.

1135
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,800
Kerry Mann We're putting all this together.

1136
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:26,800
Mary B The jingle's great.

1137
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,800
Kerry Mann We're almost there.

1138
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,800
We're so close.

1139
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,560
And this is from Helena Ingram who goes to our church.

1140
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,560
She wrote, Hey y'all, or hey y'all, who's very Texan.

1141
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,200
Hey y'all, or Tennessee.

1142
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,200
My husband and I go to Bridge Church.

1143
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,480
We appreciate y'all.

1144
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,740
Just listened to November 14th, 2023.

1145
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:44,740
So good.

1146
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:49,880
I just finished becoming a Christian health practitioner and I'm riding my Habakkuk 2-2.

1147
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,360
That's right, the vision making plane.

1148
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,800
This podcast meant a lot as I try to make clear my why.

1149
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,560
And she wrote Jesus in all caps.

1150
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,840
So that others hear God's message through me.

1151
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,440
You have encouraged me to keep at it.

1152
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,440
Thank you, Helena Ingram.

1153
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,440
Mary B Oh, I love that.

1154
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,840
Kerry Mann Helena, thank you for taking the time to send us a note.

1155
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,200
That means so, so much to us.

1156
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,160
Also, big thanks going out to Hi Jinkster.

1157
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:20,320
We know who that is, aka a friend from our church named Jill, but she blessed us with

1158
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,600
a wonderful donation this last month.

1159
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,160
Thank you so much, Jill.

1160
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Again, that's value for value.

1161
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,640
We appreciate what we're doing here and you're showing it by giving value.

1162
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:37,520
We have PayPal link on our newsletter and our website.

1163
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,320
So livingupandadownworld.com.

1164
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,320
Check it out.

1165
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,560
And then our dear friend, David Wicker, who just cracks me up all the time.

1166
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,060
He goes by Sir, by his grace.

1167
00:55:48,060 --> 00:55:49,960
He wrote us a note and said, Hey y'all.

1168
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,080
And he got us two cool t shirts.

1169
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,280
I think this is his wife's company.

1170
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,280
It's her nonprofit.

1171
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,280
Really cool.

1172
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520
He says, Hey y'all, what a crazy, beautiful life.

1173
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,600
Amen, brother.

1174
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,880
So stoked y'all turned down the enemy's whispers and pressed on with living up.

1175
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,320
He's referring to when we were kind of like, should we keep doing this?

1176
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,320
Yes.

1177
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,160
And he wrote John 10, 10 y'all.

1178
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:16,600
He says, we get, we get, no, he said we, we got this because he's got us.

1179
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,920
KYBO, keep your buckets overflowing.

1180
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,680
Sir, by his grace.

1181
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,240
PS, please plug pushbackforliberty.com.

1182
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,280
So I'm pushing it right now.

1183
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:33,720
Sir by his grace, pushback for, and four is actually the number four, pushbackforliberty.com.

1184
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:34,720
Check it out.

1185
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:35,720
They got these great stickers.

1186
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:36,720
He sent me a whole pile of them.

1187
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:41,400
It says Psalm 91, which is one of our favorite Psalms, preserve our liberty.

1188
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:46,040
And what this organization does, like I said, his wife has put this together as they teach

1189
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:52,260
you how to go into, into get involved, get engaged in your community, get engaged in

1190
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:59,320
your schools, not just take it lying down, but how can we actively with a Christ, you

1191
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:06,160
know, faith based approach, engage culture, engage unrighteousness, speak into the world.

1192
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,440
Nobody else is speaking out.

1193
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,640
We need to be speaking out.

1194
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,640
Sure do.

1195
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,640
And so anyway, check it out.

1196
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,560
I checked out the websites.

1197
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,560
Fantastic.

1198
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,880
And again, that is pushbackforliberty.com.

1199
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,880
Thanks for the stickers and thank you for the cool shirts.

1200
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,520
All right, team, that's it for today.

1201
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,360
Man, that blew by fast.

1202
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,360
It did.

1203
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,000
Well, we're at almost an hour.

1204
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,640
Yeah, yeah, it was fun.

1205
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,640
58 minutes.

1206
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,280
I'm going to say this out loud for the whole world here.

1207
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,960
I miss doing this every week.

1208
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,960
I do too.

1209
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:35,960
I love what we get to do here.

1210
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,640
I was just this week that the enemy was really trying to keep us from doing this with all

1211
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,640
these distractions.

1212
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,640
No kidding.

1213
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,640
All this stuff came up where it's like we kept getting him to push her back.

1214
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,640
It's too important.

1215
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,640
It is way too important.

1216
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,160
All right, kids, we are out of here.

1217
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,820
We love you guys so much.

1218
00:57:51,820 --> 00:57:54,600
Living Up in a Down World, we are Jimmy and Annette.

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Go check out our website, livingupinadoworld.com.

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Next week we're bringing Chevy.

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Oh, Mr. Chevy will be on the show next week.

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Yes.

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Now he'll be asleep in your lap, but he will be here.

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He will be here.

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We'll send you a picture to prove it.

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All right, guys, we love you.

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We are out of here.