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This is Jimmy and Annette and of course, Sevvie coming to you from the United States.

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I almost wanted to say live, but we're not live yet.

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This is living up in a down world.

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We're live in this moment.

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We are.

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We're not like dead.

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We don't edit.

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Well, at the very beginning we edited, I think two times, but not anymore.

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So I had a major faux pas at the end of the last show.

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You did.

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And I decided to leave it in.

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You did.

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Because life is messy and I made a mess, didn't I?

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You did.

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I had a glass just like this one.

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I probably should not have brought that in here.

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No.

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I'm going to put it way over here.

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I didn't even bring a glass of water.

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No way.

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I got to have something to drink.

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My throat gets dry.

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But you got the water on the actual...

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No, no, no.

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It got on the...

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Okay, so I've got a Rodecaster Duo and I've got it elevated for that very reason because

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if you ever knock anything over, it won't get on it.

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It just made a mess on the desk.

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It did.

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I grabbed the glass, my hand hit the mute button on the Rodecaster, and we just went

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dead air.

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Yes, we did.

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It was really hot.

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I thought, oh my God.

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But we were at the end of the show and I was like, oh man, we're there.

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So we decided to leave it in because life is messy.

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It is.

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We have had such a wonderful...

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I was going to say week, but it's only Tuesday.

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I know.

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What?

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But it's amazing.

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It feels like Sunday night.

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I know.

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It's been...

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We've had a week and two days.

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It's just wonderful.

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It really is.

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So what's so wonderful?

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Why are you saying it's been so good?

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Gosh, because there's so much growth going on in us, in our church, the people that we're

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And it's just...

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It's fun to do life with people that are on a growth path.

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And we got to spend time with Tina and Adam last night with Craig and Calvin, his son.

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Craig does the artwork for Curry and the Keeper and does he do it for No Agenda as well?

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I think so.

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Yeah, I'm sure he does.

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He and his son are golden.

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Two of the coolest people just to hang out with.

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And they brought us gifts from South Dakota.

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I know.

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She's an artist.

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Is an artist and just brought us...

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She just gave us this amazing, amazing portrait that she did.

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And then her son is a guitar player and you got to spend lots of time talking about guitars.

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You know what happens if you start talking guitar talk.

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You might as well forget it.

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You weren't even in all of our conversations.

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I was like, the adults can hang out over there.

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I'm hanging out with a 17-year-old because we're talking.

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He built a kit guitar like a Les Paul and it's fantastic.

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He did some art on the guitar.

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It was beautiful.

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And then he comes over to the church and he brings us these beautiful wooden bowls that

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his father made.

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He made on a lathe.

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It turns and they're absolutely stunning.

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We're so blessed.

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We really are.

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I mean, first of all, we spent how many hours together last night?

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We got home at what?

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It was late.

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It was so wonderful though.

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But we, it's like no time passed.

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We were in beta mode.

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When your brain goes into beta mode, if you've ever been in conversation and you feel like,

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wow, we're already done and it's been three hours, that's beta mode.

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That's your brain and it's just, and it's really, it's optimum functioning.

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It was like, oh my gosh, it's already nine o'clock.

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What I loved is I was talking to Craig.

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He has been listening to Adam's podcast with John DeVoret for 15 years.

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He said, I've been, I said, you've seen Adam go through this big life journey change coming

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to Christ.

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And he said, I've been praying for him all that time.

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I knew something was going to happen.

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15 years, Craig has been praying for Adam Curry.

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He comes, he sits in the dining room where we're talking for hours and he's just amazed

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hearing us talk about our journeys and especially Tina and Adam's.

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It was, I loved watching him because I was just going, he's greeting from ear to ear

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because this is all he's been praying for for them.

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And he's, he has seen such a huge transformation.

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It was beautiful to watch.

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It was stunning.

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Absolutely stunning.

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It really was.

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And he's like a kid watching, you know, just watching somebody he's admired from a distance

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for a long time.

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And as he said, a few times that they've gotten together, but just to be able to sit in his

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home and hear Adam talk about Jesus, talk about what God's doing and how God's got his

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hand on everything.

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And Tina just starting to tear up because she's talking about her love for Jesus.

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I was tearing up when she did that.

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Tina can make me cry.

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She always makes me cry.

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She didn't even realize how much she makes me cry.

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She just reflects and radiates Jesus, especially when she starts, I'll try to get my English

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correct here.

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I'm in a hurry for no reason.

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We're excited.

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I'm just excited.

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Two, I just killed off a big old steak.

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That's good for me.

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It makes me happy.

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I feel like a lion who just killed a water buffalo.

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When she starts talking about the love, the revelation of love that she's gotten from

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God as a father.

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Because she didn't have that so much at home.

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Your parents were just, you know, they were either there or not.

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And when she discovered the love of God and it became a revelation, the word revelation

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just means to peel back a layer and reveal, right?

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So it was revealed to her by God of how much he loved her as a child, as his daughter.

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Even while she was going through challenges in life.

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He was always there even though she didn't know him.

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felt like they weren't walking with God, but they look back on their life now and they

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see his hand on them on all these hard things and the successes and the difficult times.

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They see that God's hand was on them all the way for such a time as this.

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For the now.

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For the now.

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So when we get to hang out with these guys, which we try to once a week at least get together

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and do life together.

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I mean, we get to hang out at church now that Adam's coming to church.

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Coming to our church.

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We will pastor a church called Bridge Church.

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And check us out online.

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BridgeFBG.com.

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All the messages are there.

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Worship everything.

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And there's a lot of tools on there and resources that will help you.

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But we want to help you.

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But that's where, you know, to see Adam on the front row.

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I think this was his fifth Sunday?

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And to see him, you know, he's what, six-five?

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Nine feet, maybe?

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He's beautiful though.

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And he's very vocal in church.

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You can really hear him.

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Oh, I love him.

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He's got that booming voice.

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He's got the spirit of Mel on him.

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I love it.

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Mel is one of our, every church has a Mel.

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Jesus!

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No, he says Jesus constantly.

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And he's just excited because he's got a real comeback story, you know, because God has

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been doing a great work in his life.

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So every church has a Mel, right?

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Somebody that's a little louder than everybody else.

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He's excited.

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She didn't mean that in a good way.

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I love Mel.

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It's funny.

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He's excited.

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He's excited about Jesus and God's just doing so much work in both their lives.

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Their life has changed trajectories.

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Think about it.

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The last show, Curry and the Keeper, was all about wine and now it's a little bit about

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wine, but it's mainly about their spiritual journey.

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And I love that we get to be part of that.

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And it's so much fun to be part of someone's journey that they're actually moving the ball

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down the field.

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Not, that's something you would say, not that I, but I'm just hearing you saying that.

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It's just fun to watch.

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It's joyful.

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me of how my growth trajectory was real steep.

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I mean, I grew very fast.

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same kind of growth path, super fast, where he's getting a lot of understanding, revelation,

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things are happening all around him.

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He sees God's hand at work and it's just beautiful to sit with both Adam and Tina.

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And just, I love it when we're with other people and they're telling their journey.

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It just makes me feel like a proud daddy, but really more of a proud best friend to

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see my friend thriving.

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And usually new Christians don't become close to us because, you know, I mean, we're the

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pastors.

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And so it's really refreshing to be around people like them who just love Jesus and they're

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growing and it's, you hear them say a lot of the same things they hear in the pulpit.

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It's just, it's beautiful.

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It's okay.

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It's all public domain as far as I'm concerned.

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It is.

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So we have a great show today because we're sitting at dinner going, okay, what are we

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going to discuss today that's going to help people?

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And I just, we have been on this carnivore diet, how many days?

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Oh, we've got it right here.

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I'll pull it up.

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It's like 131 days.

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And we're not going to talk about that diet, but we're going to talk about something that...

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A principle that people have asked, why are you...

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What made you decide to turn to a carnivore diet?

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Well, think about how it came up.

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Adam Lacey.

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Yes, you were on a podcast.

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So I was interviewed by Adam Lacey.

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He's a great guy and he's in the carnivore space on YouTube and he's one of the influencers

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and one in that space.

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And so we connected through a website and I shared a little bit of my journey.

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I was like, would you mind me interviewing you on the show?

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And so I did that last week.

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It aired yesterday at 2 p.m.

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It's under Carnivore Today.

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If you want to watch it, just go to Carnivore Today on YouTube and you'll see a picture

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of me in the net on one of the...

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And it's just sort of this thing's taken off.

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In fact, he just wrote me a few minutes ago, listen to what he said about...

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And let's preface this.

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You're not just talking about carnivore.

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You're talking about our faith in conjunction with carnivore because we don't want to do

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anything and leave Jesus out of it.

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And that was part of why he wanted to interview me.

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How is faith, how's my spirituality and a way of eating or a lifestyle taking care of

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your body, how are those intersected?

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And so that's really the whole interview was about that.

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He just wrote a few minutes ago, he says, Jimmy, our interview is one of my top performing

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videos on YouTube and I have no doubt why.

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And he just said some beautiful things.

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I hope it equates to many blessings for you, much love to you and Annette.

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Can't wait to write him back and just celebrate with him.

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So that thing just took off.

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And what's exciting about it is he asked me a lot of questions.

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I fielded some questions and one of them was, if you were to introduce somebody to the carnivore

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diet journey, what are the first things you would tell them?

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And I said, well, it actually doesn't have anything to do with the diet per se.

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The first thing I would tell them is you need to get your why.

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You need to know why you are doing what you're doing.

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Because if you don't have a why, you will not stick with it.

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That's it.

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And so you and I were talking about that and I said, wait, this goes along with our faith.

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Oh, absolutely.

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So what is your why in going to church?

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What is your why in following Jesus?

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What is your why in having, continually following Jesus and not falling away?

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What is your why?

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That should be universal.

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Oh, yeah, that supersedes a diet or a lifestyle or it's anything you're involved in in life,

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but particularly about following Christ.

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Because there's going to be a lot of things that will try to get to be bigger than your

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why.

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The way it is, your why has to be bigger than your what.

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So the what is the issue you're doing.

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So let's talk about faith.

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Yes.

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We have a lot of people.

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We've received some beautiful notes this week.

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I won't read them all.

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There's just some that are personal and I don't ever want to air those kinds of things,

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but there's some beautiful things that have come through.

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People are really beginning to open their hearts to us and trust us.

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And for those of you who wrote in, I want to say thank you for trusting us.

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And I want to honor that trust and your dignity by not necessarily sharing those online or

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sharing those.

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Especially if it's too personal.

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Yeah, there's some personal things, but I want to encourage what is helping me understand

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is where people are coming from.

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We have a lot of people that are involved and listen to Living Up and a Down world that

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maybe had faith at a younger age in their life or another season of their life and then

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life happened.

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The wheels fell off.

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They went through some hard things.

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And then they grew distant in their fellowship with God.

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Or the quote unquote church hurt them.

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They were damaged.

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So they leave the church because their why was not clear.

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Well there it is.

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So that's what I want to get to is we see a lot of them coming back to their faith either

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through Curry and the Keeper with Adam and Tina and people relating and connecting to

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their journey or our journey, which is a different journey, but at the end of the day it ends

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up being the same thing.

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God saving our lives and then saying, now I have a purpose for you.

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You know, there's a pulse, there's a purpose, right?

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I've got a purpose for you.

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Here's your assignment.

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And so having said all that, we have a lot of people out there I know for a fact that

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are in that place of I love God, but I don't have a why.

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I don't have a, my why is not bigger than the storm that has come along.

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For one, maybe they forgot how they met God in the first place.

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True.

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If you forget your first love, it can take you away from your why.

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When God was speaking through John on the Isle of Patmos in the book of Revelation,

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there's a series of seven letters to seven churches.

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And to one of the churches, he said this, I have this against you.

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He said, you have lost your first love.

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And that's something that we've seen happen through the years.

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Over and over and over with people.

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People who come into either our church or we meet them out somewhere and they're so

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alive with Christ, they're so on fire.

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And then something comes along.

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They get hurt, they get disappointed, they get offended.

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Or a prayer does not get answered.

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They want it to be answered.

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There's the disappointment for you.

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Disappointment.

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Or something happens in their own life, they lose their job or whatever.

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But what we've realized through the years, and even talking about the carnivore journey

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kind of got me talking about this, is that my why has to be bigger than everything else.

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And it has to be bigger than my what.

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The what's will come and go, but the why's got to be bigger.

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Now in faith life, in Christianity, your why has to be bigger than everything.

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It has to be bigger than your failure.

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It has to be bigger than your success.

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It's got to be bigger than your poverty.

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It's got to be bigger than your wealth.

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It has to be bigger than everything.

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Because if it is not bigger than your career, if it's not bigger than your relationship,

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because life happens and relationships can end, even the best, not to scare anybody,

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but the reality is it happened to us, both of us.

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We've been through divorces because our whys were not bigger than our situation, at least

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to our other spouse.

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And in both our cases for the most part.

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So your why's got to be bigger than your what.

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Because if it is not, the storms will come, the winds will blow, and you may be bent,

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but if you're not broken, you can survive the storm if your why is bigger than your

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what.

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And so you have to go back and begin to drill down a little bit and say, so what is my why?

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And that's a question that everybody should be asking themselves.

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And I would encourage our listeners right now, what is your why for following Jesus?

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Because if your why isn't big, if it isn't bigger than your situation, because your situations

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will change, then you may not last, you may not stay the course, you may not be able to

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run the race.

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It doesn't mean you're not saved, it just means you won't live up in a down world.

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You won't have the fellowship with Christ that he wants, that intimacy, because you're

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the one walking away.

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He never ever walks away.

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He won't leave us.

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There's nothing more tragic than seeing someone who names the name of Christ, who's had an

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experience or an encounter with God at one point in their life, but lives a defeated

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Christian life.

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So they wallow in the mire of life.

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They're negative, they're down, they're critical, they're in pain.

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They don't seem to ever be able to live up above the line of this world.

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So they're constantly drowning in the stuff of this world.

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And so that's because they don't have a clear why.

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A lot of times we've had through the years, gosh, we can count them.

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I mean, you need a calculator of how many people have come to us in all the churches

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we've served through the years.

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And they are so excited.

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Oh, Pastor Jimmy, Pastor Nett, this is the greatest church I've ever been to.

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You guys are amazing.

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I love your stories.

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And when I hear people like that, I get nervous for them.

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Because a few weeks later, they're gone.

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Well, and here's why.

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Speaking of why, it's because their why has gotten in front of Jesus.

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Their why is the church.

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Their why is how they felt in that moment.

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Their why is I feel tingly.

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I feel the presence of God.

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Or I love that worship song.

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Or I feel good because I feel like I prayed and I was forgiven of my sin.

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So I feel good.

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And so that becomes their why.

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And the problem is this, or the real issue is this.

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Let me put it this way in simple terms.

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The why is not a what.

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The why is a who.

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Oh, I love that.

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The why is the person of Jesus Christ.

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And it's not you or the church.

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Oh, my goodness.

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When people come and flatter me, I learned a long time ago, do not believe anybody else's

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press about you, especially flattery.

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Because they may mean well.

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And it's always kind.

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And I always say, thank you.

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I appreciate that.

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But here's the thing.

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My concern with that is if they're enamored with me as the pastor, or they're enamored

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with our worship team and our music.

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On the pedestal with them.

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Enamored with the church itself and what they feel when they're in our church.

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That won't last.

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That's too small of a why.

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No, because we'll disappoint you.

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Because we're human.

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It's a little why.

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And we need a large, we need a capital Y.

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A capital W, capital H, capital Y.

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And that is, it's got to be the person of Jesus.

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And so we, I'll often say, and I've had many times from the pulpit say, don't fall in love

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with the bride, the church.

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Fall in love with Jesus.

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Because if you get Jesus, you'll get the bride.

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But if you fall in love with the bride, you may not get Jesus.

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It's not the same.

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they will leave.

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They'll go find another church and they'll do the same thing.

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And they'll cycle.

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frustrated.

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The problem is their why is not big enough because their why is not a who.

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It's a why.

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So it needs to be settled.

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So how do we, I mean, this is talking practical terms.

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If we recognize that maybe that's something that I'm prone to get excited about a moment

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at a youth camp experience or I was at a retreat or I was at church one Sunday.

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Or a concert, a Christian concert.

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Christian concert got me.

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I was crying real tears, you know.

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Is that a big enough why to carry you through the storms?

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Is that a big enough why to take you through a divorce?

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No.

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Is that a big enough why to take you through adultery?

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Or like I said, an unanswered prayer.

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Just the disappointment, disillusionment.

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Is your why bigger than that?

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Bigger than that.

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And so how do we get that right?

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What are you thinking out loud in a conversation here?

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Well, it has to do with, you've got to get to know Jesus.

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It's not about going to church and opening the Bible at church.

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It's about every day, your everyday life.

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I mean, we wake up, good morning, Holy Spirit.

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We go to bed, you know, good night, Holy Spirit.

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Everything we do, the grid is through the power of the Holy Spirit.

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You know what I mean?

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We live our life on purpose, not just however we want to live it.

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There's, you know, take for instance our marriage.

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If I didn't spend any time with you, we wouldn't have any kind of marriage.

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If I just got in the bed with you and slept, but I never said a word to you, I never complimented

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you.

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I never had a conversation.

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I never listened to you.

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We just were in the bed sleeping.

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We went to work and came home.

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There would be no relationship.

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It couldn't sustain.

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Yeah, you're right.

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And so we have to build on that relationship.

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And if we're bored with the Bible, find a translation that is, that you can understand.

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Find a devotion that you can read that gets you closer.

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Get around eagles who soar, who love the Lord, where you can grow.

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If you get around people that don't know God, that's all you're going to, they're going

503
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,320
to pull you down.

504
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,000
You know, that is true.

505
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,720
That's that negative peer pressure.

506
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,520
Peer pressure, we used to talk about it in high school, junior high, right?

507
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,800
Peer pressure, beware of peer pressure.

508
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,840
But the thing is, it happens to us adults.

509
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,040
It can happen to a 70 year old.

510
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,400
Because we're high school, we're still in high school.

511
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,200
We're perpetual kids for real.

512
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,960
We just look older, but inside we still think we can jump and run.

513
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,600
But if you think about it, who you hang around is who you will become like.

514
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:13,000
And so in terms of a why, of course our why is Jesus, but there's what's involved in

515
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,400
maintaining the why.

516
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,400
So what is a what?

517
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,400
One of the what's would be get around people that have gone further down the track than

518
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,400
you.

519
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,120
Find people who are spiritually mature, who are joyful.

520
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,920
Yes, not negative.

521
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,080
Yeah, there's life in them.

522
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,120
They're not complainers and whiners and moaners, grumblers.

523
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:32,640
No, they're people that are living up in a down world.

524
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,520
You find those people and you get around them.

525
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Because there is something happening.

526
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,520
Why I married you honey.

527
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,520
Honey.

528
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,520
It is.

529
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:46,920
Because I had been around most of the men in my life, which started with my father and

530
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:52,240
then my ex-husband, were negative, negative, negative.

531
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,680
And just the world is going to hell in a hand basket.

532
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,680
The sky's always falling.

533
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,680
The other shoe's about to drop.

534
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,680
Yes.

535
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,680
You know all these clichés.

536
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,680
Just always.

537
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,720
And when I met you, it was like, what?

538
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,320
You introduced me to a whole new world because I had become that negative person.

539
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,000
So would you say I was living up in a down world back then?

540
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,600
You've always lived up in a down world.

541
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,200
It's because I got this title in college when I wrote a paper.

542
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,720
I mean, that's how far this thinking goes back as a young Christian and get doing this

543
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,800
assignment and they said you can pick any topic you want.

544
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,800
And you chose that name.

545
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,440
Somehow that just popped into my mind.

546
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,440
Literally, living up in a down world.

547
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:37,280
And I love that because when you've lived in the type of childhood and family life I

548
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,080
had where everything, I mean my dad talked about suicide daily.

549
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,920
He never wanted to live.

550
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,480
And there was an incident where he put a gun to your head as a child.

551
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,480
He did.

552
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Two incidents.

553
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,480
I was six months old.

554
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,480
When you were a baby.

555
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,520
Which my mom told me about that one in the crib.

556
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,520
Six years old.

557
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,520
And I'll never forget that.

558
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,080
Can't imagine what that would do to a child.

559
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,080
Oh, it brings fear.

560
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:05,720
It's a stronghold of fear on your life that took me years and years and years to get over

561
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:12,280
because I didn't know how to...

562
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,840
You don't know what you don't know.

563
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,840
There it is.

564
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,280
And I didn't know how to release that and to get rid of that bondage.

565
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,280
So how did you...

566
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,400
I mean, this helps somebody.

567
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,840
How did you finally get where you could shake that off and get past it?

568
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,440
Well, for one thing I had to get rid of everything in my life that would promote fear in my life.

569
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,880
Which was one of the things that we did was we turned off the TV.

570
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,200
Turned off the TV from things that were all negative.

571
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,200
So let's get transparent.

572
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,200
What were we watching?

573
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,680
All the ID channel was my favorite channel.

574
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,920
The investigate discovery, is that what it's called?

575
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,920
Yes.

576
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520
And it's all about the serial killer next door.

577
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,520
The neighbors, the psychos.

578
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,560
I mean, it was all those shows which are fascinating.

579
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,040
But what I loved about the shows were getting the bad guy.

580
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,880
I wanted justice because I'm black and white.

581
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,920
I want justice.

582
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,280
But on the road to justice, all this fear got introduced.

583
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,280
You became paranoid.

584
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,280
I did.

585
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,280
I was like, we've got to shut our shutters.

586
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,080
Oh, you freak out.

587
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,080
Are all the doors locked?

588
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,080
Have you checked all the doors?

589
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,080
Yes, honey.

590
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,080
Go check them again.

591
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,840
It really, what you have go in your mind, in your eyes, in your heart.

592
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,520
It literally...

593
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,680
It amplified the fear that was already there and was getting...

594
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,680
It triggered it.

595
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,680
Yes.

596
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,680
Even though...

597
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,680
But you couldn't stop watching it.

598
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,680
I mean, you were literally like an addict.

599
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,680
Totally.

600
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,680
Totally.

601
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,560
And so, and then obviously getting in the scriptures that fear is a spirit.

602
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,560
It is.

603
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,320
And we don't have to live in the spirit of fear.

604
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,400
We can live with love and a sound mind.

605
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,680
I just had to rearrange my brain, literally.

606
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,320
And we had to go on a lifestyle, an elimination diet in our life, not just carnivores.

607
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,480
Our life.

608
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,520
What are things that are not adding value to our life?

609
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,920
And we got rid of those things this year.

610
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,920
I mean, okay.

611
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,920
For our listeners...

612
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,920
So talk about the freedom.

613
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,920
Okay, go ahead.

614
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,920
Well, think about it.

615
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:18,960
We're pastors and we were allowing things to come into our life that were not uplifting.

616
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,080
They were bringing us down and bringing fear.

617
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,320
And no wonder we didn't have the fruit from our lives that we craved.

618
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,480
We wanted that fruit.

619
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,120
We wanted people to be drawn.

620
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:31,520
That's a good way to say it.

621
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,840
I think it minimized our potential and our capacity.

622
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:42,000
And I think God is saying, if you will follow me and get closer to me and let go of the

623
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,320
things that you don't need, that aren't adding any value to you, which are not necessarily

624
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,320
sin.

625
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,680
Well, for me, I was thinking, okay, well, this is all restriction and we're free in

626
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,680
Christ.

627
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,680
We can do whatever.

628
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,680
No.

629
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,280
If it's not profitable to me, why would I keep doing it?

630
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,880
And what I found is I have more freedom now with the boundaries we've set into our life

631
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,320
than I ever did before when I said, I can watch whatever I want because it doesn't matter.

632
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,880
It's why we got TV watching things that are immoral.

633
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,840
I mean, oh, well, it's just a little sex scene or a little...

634
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,840
Yeah.

635
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,160
You know how people will say, hey, Pastor Jimmy Net, y'all should watch this movie.

636
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,680
No, there's some cussing in there.

637
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,640
And there's a sex scene and there's some blah, blah, blah.

638
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,640
And then there's this and it goes on.

639
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,640
And we'd be like...

640
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,640
Okay.

641
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,640
So let me ask you a question.

642
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,400
If I gave you a cup of water and I added some dirt in there, would you eat?

643
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Would you drink it?

644
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,880
No.

645
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,920
So we had to really evaluate, okay, you know, we as pastors should be living at a higher

646
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,880
level because we're more accountable.

647
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,880
I disagree.

648
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,880
Okay.

649
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,880
We as Christians...

650
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,880
Okay, you're right.

651
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Christians.

652
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,880
The position is irrelevant.

653
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,880
No, I agree.

654
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,880
I agree.

655
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,480
But there is an elevation because of being a teacher of the world of work.

656
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Well, the Bible does say there is a stricter, higher accountability.

657
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Exactly.

658
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,960
And that's what I'm talking about right there.

659
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:00,960
Not...

660
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,480
Yeah, to say living at a higher level, so...

661
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,480
Okay.

662
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,480
That's what I'm saying.

663
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Yeah.

664
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Because we're accountable for what we teach.

665
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Totally.

666
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,560
And our teaching is not necessarily what we say.

667
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560
That's right.

668
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,560
It's what we do.

669
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,560
It's what we do.

670
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800
And so I think that's so important.

671
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,800
And so we just...

672
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,400
So can we pull it back?

673
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Okay.

674
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Pull it back to the why.

675
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,920
Because we love God.

676
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,920
Okay.

677
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,920
There we go.

678
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,880
Now, cue Bible verse with the dramatic...

679
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Okay.

680
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Wait.

681
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,880
Play some music.

682
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Is there some kind of music?

683
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,880
You've got all these effects.

684
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,880
I know, but...

685
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,880
I've got to find something.

686
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Even if it didn't work.

687
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,880
Here we go.

688
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Oh, wrong jingle.

689
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880
My bad.

690
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880
Wrong jingle.

691
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Wow.

692
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,880
Okay.

693
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,880
So here it is.

694
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,160
Oops.

695
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,480
So Mark chapter 12 verse 30.

696
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,480
Listen to this.

697
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Talk about getting the why right.

698
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind,

699
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440
and with all your strength.

700
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,880
That's called the Shema in Hebrew.

701
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880
I love that.

702
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,880
I love that.

703
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,480
And it's the first command.

704
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,040
Actually, the first command.

705
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,240
So getting your why bigger than your what means you go back to the very first command,

706
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,240
the Shema.

707
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,420
And it is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul.

708
00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:16,720
Your soul is your body, by the way.

709
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,000
Sometimes people think that the soul is the spirit.

710
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,240
It's not.

711
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,120
It's actually the whole of who you are.

712
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,440
It's your mind, body, and spirit connected.

713
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,440
That's the soul.

714
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,480
It's the whole person.

715
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120
So anytime you hear soul, they'll tend to think it's spirit.

716
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,120
We default to that.

717
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,680
It's not actually correct.

718
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,160
The soul is the fleshly earthly self of who you are.

719
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,240
It's who Annette Pruitt is.

720
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,080
It's who Jimmy Pruitt is.

721
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,040
It's who Adam Curry is or Tina.

722
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,040
It's who you are.

723
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,680
So that's the soul with all your heart, with all your soul, your whole person, with all

724
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,840
your mind, with all your strength.

725
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,840
So it's the whole package that loves God more than anything.

726
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,560
And this is what I ask.

727
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,280
If what I'm watching, would Jesus be in the room watching this with me?

728
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520
He might, but he might be weeping.

729
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Or he may be turning tables over like he did one time in the temple.

730
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,580
And so we made that decision.

731
00:31:08,580 --> 00:31:10,760
But everybody has to come to their own revelation.

732
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,760
That's right.

733
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,000
In fact, I would never tell anybody to do what we did.

734
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,400
In principle, I would say maybe there are things that are not getting you to where you

735
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:25,200
want to be, that are holding you back or hindering you like a bungee cord attached to your back.

736
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,480
It just keeps snapping you back to where you were.

737
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480
You can start getting going and then you get pulled back.

738
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,280
And so we would never say, hey, you shouldn't watch what we watched.

739
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,200
You know, you should do it like this.

740
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,640
No, we say this.

741
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Do the next thing Jesus tells you to do.

742
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,640
If you don't receive the revelation, but you just hear it from us, you'll just go back

743
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,320
to your old way of living.

744
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,800
For me, that was me.

745
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,720
I knew God for years.

746
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,560
I mean, I told you a year, but it was probably a lot longer than that.

747
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,160
I just wasn't paying attention.

748
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,400
You felt like God was saying, stop this.

749
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,720
You need to stop this because if you want to get rid of the fear that has been embedded

750
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,600
in your life since you were six months old, then you're going to have to make some changes.

751
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,880
My comfort, my entertainment was so much more important.

752
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,920
And now I've got my why.

753
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,760
I love Him so much that I want to please Him.

754
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Instead of being afraid of making a mistake, it slips.

755
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Yes, because He's not going to thump me off the planet when I make a mistake.

756
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,200
That would be living down in a down world.

757
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800
I'm just afraid that I'm going to make a mistake and blow it up.

758
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,440
He still loves me in spite of me.

759
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,480
That's the thing.

760
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,880
He always wants to take us to a new place, but we have to be open to that new place.

761
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,160
We have to say, Lord, I want to get to this place.

762
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,400
Help me get to that place.

763
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,560
And He will.

764
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:55,000
He'll start knocking things off of your life, taking things away that you thought you just

765
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,000
had to have.

766
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000
And now you don't.

767
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Can I say something here?

768
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000
This is really important.

769
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,080
And just so if you're listening going, I could never give this up.

770
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,400
I could never let go of this.

771
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Let me tell you what God does.

772
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400
He loves you so much.

773
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,020
He doesn't just tell you to just crucify it and nail it to the cross.

774
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:14,240
He actually takes and begins to diminish your desire for it.

775
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,240
That's grace.

776
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,960
That's the power of grace.

777
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,800
And when I talk about grace, I mean God's power, God's strength, God's ability, God's

778
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,320
favor to do what you cannot in and of yourself do.

779
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,320
That's grace.

780
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,320
And that's what He does.

781
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,320
It's power.

782
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,080
When we're in sin and you're a Christian, He gives us the grace to overcome those besetting

783
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,080
sins.

784
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,680
And that, I feel like, is what He did here.

785
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,760
And now I have no desire.

786
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,200
So let me ask a question.

787
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,680
How does a why get a person through a massive disappointment or a storm?

788
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,520
How does that work, practically speaking?

789
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Well, because when you know who loves you no matter what, and you love them, it can

790
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,900
get you through anything.

791
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:01,600
Love is the key.

792
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,880
The board says God is love.

793
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:11,000
And when you get a…it's like what Tina, just talking about the love of the Father.

794
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,640
She was tearing up.

795
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,160
That's what God wants of all of His children is to tear up when we talk about the love

796
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,160
of God.

797
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Because it's so deep.

798
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Because it's so deep.

799
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,440
It's not just, oh, God loves me.

800
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000
It's a true revelation of His love.

801
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,240
That it's not about He's going to thump us off this planet.

802
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,080
It's about He loves us so much.

803
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:39,720
He will allow us to go through things, but try to teach us through those things to get

804
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:40,720
us to the next place.

805
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:41,720
Because we're on a journey.

806
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:43,760
It goes back to Romans 8.28.

807
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,520
It says, God causes all things to work together for good.

808
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,160
He doesn't cause all things.

809
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,920
He causes all things to work together.

810
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,600
For those who are called according to His purpose.

811
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,720
So you know what I'm saying though.

812
00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:01,480
He literally…a situation that could be bad, He'll cause it to work together for your

813
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,760
good.

814
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,080
That's the power of walking with God.

815
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,320
It's the power of grace.

816
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,080
It's the power of knowing Him.

817
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,320
It's the power of having your why.

818
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,320
Your why solid.

819
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,920
But you've got to let go.

820
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:18,000
I'm trying to think of what…if I were talking to people, which I am, but talking to people

821
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,360
that were like, I don't know how to get there.

822
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,000
You've got to let go of the things of the past that are hindering you.

823
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:31,480
Those voices of religiosity from your past.

824
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:38,720
Maybe a church that was very legalistic and put the hammer down.

825
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:47,800
You've got to adjust yourself to do what the Bible really says about who God is.

826
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Think about that.

827
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:55,840
Because so many people grew up in denominations that are just so strict.

828
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,840
And God is not like that.

829
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,920
I mean God is…He's such a loving, caring God.

830
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Where are you going?

831
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,720
I see that you're getting some…your mind is going.

832
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:06,800
I can't help it.

833
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,800
So listen to this.

834
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,440
We talked about this a long time ago.

835
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,560
But when you said what you just said, it brought me back to this.

836
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,360
To those…this is Jude 1.

837
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:22,800
To those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by Jesus Christ.

838
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Just that scripture alone.

839
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000
I want to encourage you.

840
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,200
That is Jude 1 verse 1.

841
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,320
And so look that up.

842
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,280
It's at the end of the New Testament.

843
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,280
Right before Revelation.

844
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,840
Jude 1 verse 1.

845
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,380
To those…and this is in the New International Version, NIV.

846
00:36:38,380 --> 00:36:43,560
To those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by Jesus Christ.

847
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Called, loved, and kept.

848
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,640
If you can get a revelation of that…

849
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,840
I'm bringing you back to that.

850
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,280
Because that's…but here's how it works practically for me.

851
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,080
When I'm having a day where I forget my why, when I'm not leaning into my why, who is

852
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,080
a who, Jesus, I have to go back to God's Word.

853
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,160
I go back to Scripture because Scripture gives me that foundation.

854
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,360
Scripture is an anchor for me.

855
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,320
It's an anchor for the soul.

856
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Where if the waters are choppy or, you know, the storms, the winds blowing hard, I cast

857
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,000
my anchor.

858
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000
I mean that anchor is the Scripture.

859
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,540
It's the Word of God.

860
00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:23,880
And this is one that I go to, to remind myself who I am in Christ.

861
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,640
And so I'll say, in Christ I have been called.

862
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,600
In Christ I am loved by God and in Christ I am kept.

863
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,600
I love that.

864
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Called, loved, kept.

865
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:39,720
If I'd say that to myself about three times in a row, I start to elevate something inside.

866
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:40,720
You stand up taller.

867
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:41,720
Absolutely.

868
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:42,720
You feel stronger.

869
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,800
You receive that strength.

870
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,160
He says the joy of the Lord is our strength.

871
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,880
And so He gives you strength when you start to quote His Word and you get it in.

872
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,440
A lot of times you have to say it quite a bit out loud.

873
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,440
Speak it out.

874
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Declare it.

875
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,440
And then He gives you strength when you start to do it.

876
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520
So that you can then live it out.

877
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,960
If you think about it, I used to love like old war movies and submarines, you know, the

878
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,360
old submarines and stuff.

879
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,920
And in old black and white war movies, they would drop these and they took this in real

880
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,920
war.

881
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,920
The movies were about war.

882
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,200
But they would roll these barrels off the side of the ship.

883
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,420
And what they're called, they're called depth charges.

884
00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:22,440
They would roll this barrel off and splash into the water.

885
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,920
And then it falls down through the water and here comes a submarine, you know, unsuspecting.

886
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,760
And here's this barrel floating down in the water.

887
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,480
And when it gets to a certain depth, it explodes.

888
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,920
And what is called a depth charge.

889
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,200
But I've always had this metaphor, this picture in my mind of those old war movies and these

890
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,800
depth charges that our words are power containers.

891
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,300
Because with a word, you can change an atmosphere.

892
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:53,340
With a word, you can lift somebody up or you can tear them apart, tear them down.

893
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:59,400
And so I find if I believe that my words matter and that my words are power containers, then

894
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,520
I believe that when I speak the Word of God, then the Word of God has power.

895
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,520
It does.

896
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,080
So I can read a verse out loud.

897
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,960
You don't even have to get fancy.

898
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,680
Just read it to those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by

899
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,360
Jesus Christ.

900
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,160
And let that, lean into that as your identity.

901
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,440
I'm called, loved, and kept.

902
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:26,160
But even just saying it right now, just here, you and me and whoever's listening, it builds

903
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,160
me up.

904
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,200
The book of Jude talks about building yourself up on your most holy faith.

905
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,200
And we've got to do that.

906
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,200
It's powerful.

907
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,880
When we have down days, we shouldn't go to alcohol, to the bottle, go to TV.

908
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,440
It's so easy to escape.

909
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,400
Go to something that's going to escape.

910
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,880
We really need to, as Christians, we need to learn to go to God and let His Word bring

911
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,920
life because His Word is life to our bones.

912
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,920
It's to our…

913
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,440
That scripture says it's life and health.

914
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,440
Health to our bones.

915
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Yes.

916
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,440
I want healthy bones.

917
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Yes.

918
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,440
That's why I'm doing carnivore.

919
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,440
I do too.

920
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,440
So this was good.

921
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,440
I love this.

922
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,840
This is one of my favorite topics that we've ever had because it just gives me such life.

923
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840
So let's recap.

924
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Okay.

925
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,000
We're talking about the why behind the what and that your why has to be bigger than your

926
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,000
what.

927
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,000
It has to be.

928
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,280
You're walking with Christ, walking in faith, being part of a church, a community of faith

929
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,440
and believers.

930
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,040
Your why has to be bigger than the church.

931
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,120
Your why has to be bigger than your love for the music of the church.

932
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Or you will walk away.

933
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Or you will fall away when the wind blows too hard.

934
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,320
We talked with a couple yesterday.

935
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,160
Oh, this is good.

936
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,480
That has been away from the church for 20 years.

937
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,480
20 years.

938
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,440
They came to our church for the very first time.

939
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,240
A church in 20 years, a couple of weeks ago.

940
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,960
And they came to us and introduced themselves to us.

941
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,880
And they are just two of the nicest, coolest people.

942
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,160
But they were so hurt.

943
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,200
And I'm like, 20 years of your life.

944
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,880
20 years, but they're not hurt now.

945
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,880
They are on fire.

946
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,840
But they've got to have their why or it'll be just a wonderful church.

947
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:12,520
But we will let them down because someone will say, you've got my seat.

948
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Or anything.

949
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Can I appeal to our listeners?

950
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,040
Yes.

951
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,240
You know, you may have gotten offended in a church.

952
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,320
You may have been abused and are treated terribly.

953
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,320
And there are pastors that have abused people.

954
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,320
Oh my gosh.

955
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,860
There are gazillions out there.

956
00:41:26,860 --> 00:41:28,560
And it's tragic.

957
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,360
And we've served under some hard pastors.

958
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,080
I won't go into any detail on that because I want to protect the guilty.

959
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,440
And so we've served under hard and sometimes abusive pastors.

960
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,480
And when I say abusive, I don't mean any weird stuff.

961
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,480
Not physical, but just...

962
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,480
Spiritual abuse.

963
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,480
Yes.

964
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,480
And controlling, narcissistic.

965
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Narcissistic.

966
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,320
All that stuff.

967
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,440
And so we know how hard that can be.

968
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,760
But here's what happens.

969
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,720
In fact, let me just mention last week's show.

970
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:58,680
And if you didn't listen to last week's show, which is number 43, this is 44, you need to

971
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,360
go back and listen to number 43.

972
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,540
It's what do you do when you get disappointed?

973
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:06,960
What do you do when you're doing the right things and it doesn't work out?

974
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,220
What do you do when you're believing God and it doesn't turn out right?

975
00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:13,240
Because I got fired in a church situation.

976
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,360
And you were doing all the right things.

977
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,360
I was doing the right things.

978
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,880
It was very unrighteous.

979
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,880
It was dark.

980
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,880
It was petty.

981
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,880
It was controlling.

982
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,040
It was narcissistic driven.

983
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,760
And the only reason I survived that is because...

984
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,080
And we stayed in church.

985
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,080
And we...

986
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Yeah.

987
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Never left church.

988
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,960
The only reason that we were able to do that is because our why, our who was bigger than

989
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,600
the situation.

990
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,320
Because we made a commitment to Jesus Christ that no matter what our situation is, whether

991
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:51,560
we're winning or losing, whether we're success or failure, whether we're in the good times

992
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,960
or the bad times...

993
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,040
Wealth or poverty.

994
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,320
Wealth or poverty does not matter.

995
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,040
That is irrelevant to our why.

996
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,840
And our why is anchored in a who and that is Jesus Christ.

997
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,760
So I want to encourage you to get your how, your why.

998
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,040
I'm getting all my words.

999
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,320
I'm so loving this.

1000
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,960
Your who, why, how, everything.

1001
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,960
Get it all.

1002
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Like Dr. Seuss.

1003
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Get your why clear.

1004
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,200
And think about it in this term.

1005
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:29,640
Am I not going back to and giving church another chance because church was my why and my why

1006
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,560
wasn't bigger than the church?

1007
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:39,240
Am I going to hold something that happened to me 20 years ago, 15 years ago, 10, 5, at

1008
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:44,760
a church somewhere else in another city or in another time because that's still bigger

1009
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,160
than my why?

1010
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:53,600
So I want to, and we want to lovingly, lovingly encourage you, get your why clear.

1011
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,280
Write it down.

1012
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,840
What's that verse you quoted earlier?

1013
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,840
Habakkuk?

1014
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,840
It's Habakkuk.

1015
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,840
I have it right here.

1016
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Habakkuk 2.

1017
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,840
Oh, you got it.

1018
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:08,960
Then the Lord replied, write down the revelation and make it plain on tablet so that a herald

1019
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,520
may run with it.

1020
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:18,000
In other words, write down those things, that why that you have.

1021
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Write it down.

1022
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Make it plain.

1023
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,360
He wants you to run with a vision that God's called you to do.

1024
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,400
But if you don't write it down, you'll just forget.

1025
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,760
So can I read it out of a different translation?

1026
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,600
So this translation, this is New King James.

1027
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,760
Yeah, and I read it out at NIV.

1028
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,760
I love this.

1029
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,800
Write the vision and make it plain on tablets, on parchment.

1030
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Write the vision and make it plain that he may run who reads it.

1031
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,400
So whoever reads it sees the vision is clear.

1032
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:54,160
And so my encouragement to you today is get your why clear.

1033
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,160
What is your vision of a why?

1034
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,600
Get that clear.

1035
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,720
And if you as a follower of Jesus, and maybe you're coming back to faith, we've had so

1036
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:06,800
many people write in and say, we're coming back to faith because of you and Tina and

1037
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,200
Adam and you two.

1038
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,200
We're coming back.

1039
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,360
But if you're coming back and you're on that journey back, we want to help you with this.

1040
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,800
Get your why clear.

1041
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Write the vision and make it plain on tablets that he may run who reads it.

1042
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,920
And that will help you as you navigate disappointment, offense.

1043
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Because it's all going to happen.

1044
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,800
It just happens because anytime you're around another human being, as good as they may be,

1045
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,600
they're never a human being will never be bigger and better than the one can live up

1046
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,080
to our own exact.

1047
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,080
Exactly.

1048
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,920
You can't even lower your expectations.

1049
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,920
Yes.

1050
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,480
So give people the same grace you yourself need.

1051
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,480
Right.

1052
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,480
Yes.

1053
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,480
And so anyway, we're 45 minutes in.

1054
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,480
Wow.

1055
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Yeah, we're doing good.

1056
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,480
Well, we're on fire.

1057
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:04,920
This podcast is bringing value to you, I encourage you to go to our website, livingupinadownworld.com.

1058
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Give us feedback.

1059
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,920
Write down.

1060
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Yeah, leave a review.

1061
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,760
Leave a review.

1062
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,760
Value for value.

1063
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,760
Subscribe.

1064
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,760
Treasure.

1065
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,760
Yeah, sign up for our newsletter.

1066
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,160
We take PayPal or Bitcoin.

1067
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,960
But really, it's your words mean more to us than anything.

1068
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Yeah.

1069
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,960
Time, talents and treasure.

1070
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,320
We love hearing from you and just getting feedback.

1071
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:35,640
Give us ideas of things that would help you if we brought the subject up because literally

1072
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,600
we weren't sure exactly what we were going to talk about until we had dinner tonight

1073
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,160
and said, this is it.

1074
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,400
Because we've been talking about our while with carnivore because we're doing a carnivore

1075
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,400
channel.

1076
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,080
But this is more important than carnivore.

1077
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,840
So tell them about our little carnivore channel.

1078
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,840
So yeah, we started our own carnivore channel.

1079
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,200
Can you remember the name of it?

1080
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,200
Pray.

1081
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Nope.

1082
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,200
I know.

1083
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,200
I knew you were going to do that.

1084
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Meat.

1085
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,200
That's why I did that to you.

1086
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,200
I know.

1087
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,200
What is it?

1088
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Meat.

1089
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Pray.

1090
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,200
Love.

1091
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Meat.

1092
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Pray.

1093
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,200
Love.

1094
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,200
I knew you were going to put me on the spot.

1095
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Don't ever do that.

1096
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,200
That was a setup.

1097
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,680
It's basically, there was a book and a movie called Eat, Pray, Love.

1098
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,960
So we named it Meat, Pray, Love.

1099
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,960
And it's on YouTube.

1100
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,960
You can find us on YouTube.

1101
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,120
You can look up the carnivore rev or at carnivore rev or look up Meat, Pray, Love.

1102
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,840
And we're going to be in it.

1103
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,840
You did it yourself.

1104
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,840
I did our first introductory video.

1105
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,840
By yourself.

1106
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Kind of sharing our journey and what it's going to be about.

1107
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,960
And then you'll be coming in with me and because we're learning a new system.

1108
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,960
It's like anything.

1109
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,960
It's brand new.

1110
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,960
So we're newbies.

1111
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,960
And you just did like a 10 minute introduction.

1112
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Yeah, it's just a 10 minute video introducing that.

1113
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,180
But I would encourage you to go listen to my interview with Adam Lacey.

1114
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:47,180
So it's Carnivore Today.

1115
00:47:47,180 --> 00:47:48,440
I mentioned that earlier.

1116
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,200
Carnivore Today on YouTube.

1117
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,360
And you'll find it.

1118
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,360
It's phenomenal.

1119
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,360
Thank you.

1120
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,920
I was pleasantly surprised.

1121
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:02,040
Not that I don't trust that you're going to be great, but it made me say, wow, I need

1122
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,040
to do carnivore.

1123
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,040
Oh yeah, I already am.

1124
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,520
But it was really enlightening.

1125
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,240
And what we're going to do on our channel is we're hoping to interview.

1126
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,800
We know we're going to be interviewing some influencers.

1127
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:21,240
We want to interview some doctors that have influenced us, given us some good information.

1128
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:27,280
But we also, obviously, we're going to infuse our faith in the whole thing because everything

1129
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,120
about what we do has to do with the Lord Jesus Christ, period.

1130
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,400
Total life, wellness, mind, body, spirit, all of the above.

1131
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,680
So listen to this.

1132
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,680
Mr. Adam the Podfather Curry, we got a little...

1133
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,680
Strapper.

1134
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Another one.

1135
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Every beast.

1136
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,680
Strapper Boost.

1137
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,720
He says, hearing Sir Patrick Goble, Duke of the South, words filled my heart with love

1138
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:49,780
and joy.

1139
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:55,360
He has provided me time, talent, treasure to know agenda and me personally, than I could

1140
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,200
ever repay.

1141
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,720
Knowing that he is my brother in the kingdom means we will be having meetups in heaven

1142
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:04,220
together.

1143
00:49:04,220 --> 00:49:08,520
God bless him and my friends, Pastor Jimmy and Dame Annette.

1144
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaking of meetup, we have a meetup in Austin.

1145
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:11,720
Where's it at?

1146
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,240
At a restaurant?

1147
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:15,240
Somebody's bar and grill.

1148
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,240
Oh my gosh.

1149
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,240
I don't know.

1150
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:18,240
You have to know.

1151
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,120
It's a Adam and Tina's thing and they just invited us in.

1152
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,720
It's a meetup with no agenda.

1153
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,200
Curry and the Keeper, living up in a down world.

1154
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,840
So me and Adam went to one of the meetups together to represent.

1155
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Now we get to have the girls with us.

1156
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,600
It's going to be an awesome time.

1157
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,600
And meetup, tell them what that means.

1158
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,920
Well, meetup is where you get together with people who listen to the show and who contribute

1159
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,200
or are involved and you just get to talk in person.

1160
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,960
Get to find out a little bit about their life.

1161
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,600
You get to put a face with the names because I love all the handles are awesome.

1162
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,640
I wish you could remember where we're going to meet.

1163
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,360
Well, ask Tina, text her right quick.

1164
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,360
And while you're doing that, Julie Herbert wrote in, so sweet.

1165
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,360
Oh, I got to pray with her on Sunday.

1166
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,560
Her precious family is going through some hard stuff.

1167
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,600
And she just wrote, thank you.

1168
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,760
God loves me.

1169
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,280
God loves my family.

1170
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,800
And God's got this.

1171
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,920
Absolutely beautiful.

1172
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,680
And that is so, so true.

1173
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,680
So proud of you.

1174
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,280
Also, I'd like to read it.

1175
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,080
We got a new review, a couple of them actually this week.

1176
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,400
And no, a new one this week.

1177
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,520
This is from Martha.

1178
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,280
Martha goes to our church.

1179
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,520
She is a beautiful, beautiful soul.

1180
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,720
Today I was looking for your podcast.

1181
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:26,720
It's not.

1182
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:27,720
I said we had, we're doing it tonight.

1183
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:28,720
It's always Tuesday evening.

1184
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:29,720
Yeah.

1185
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,040
So she writes this encourage five stars.

1186
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,280
Thank you.

1187
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,360
Encouraging and uplifting best podcast yet.

1188
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,360
I haven't missed a one.

1189
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,440
You guys are doing such an amazing work sharing your testimony and your love for Christ.

1190
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,520
This really hit home with me today.

1191
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,560
I love listening to the reviews at the end and how many lives you guys have touched.

1192
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,080
It is so encouraging.

1193
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,000
Keep up the amazing work.

1194
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Love you guys.

1195
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,000
Stay the course.

1196
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Isn't that beautiful?

1197
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,800
That just makes my heart go pitter patter.

1198
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,280
Also have, and I'm waiting for my computer to pull it up.

1199
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,280
On our, listen to this.

1200
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,880
Gosh, we got lots of new subscribers.

1201
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,880
Wow.

1202
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,880
Really?

1203
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,880
I'm loving up in a den world.

1204
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,280
Loving what?

1205
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,280
Living up in a.

1206
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,280
Up in a den world.

1207
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,280
A down world.

1208
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,280
Sorry.

1209
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,120
I was going to say two things at one time.

1210
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,640
You've had way too much club soda.

1211
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,720
This has to do with our carnivore channel.

1212
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:24,720
I know.

1213
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:25,720
Yeah.

1214
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:26,720
That's what it is.

1215
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:27,720
People are jumping on and subscribing.

1216
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:28,720
Wow.

1217
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:29,720
I'm blown away.

1218
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:30,720
Listen to this.

1219
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:31,720
Great.

1220
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:32,720
This is a note that came in from Robert Ludwig.

1221
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,720
I like this guy.

1222
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:34,720
He's written before.

1223
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:35,720
Great brother in Christ.

1224
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:36,720
Thank you, Robert.

1225
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,600
He says, pastor Jimmy and Damonette, I came to your podcast via Curry and the keeper.

1226
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Yay.

1227
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,320
I have a lot I want to say eventually.

1228
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,280
But now, need to keep it short.

1229
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,280
I just started listening eight days ago and just got through the Easter episode.

1230
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,280
Oh my goodness.

1231
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,560
Easter was my late wife's favorite holiday.

1232
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,560
She loved the idea of Jesus coming back and His promise.

1233
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,520
When she was in sixth, in the sixth to eighth grade, her Sunday school class was in charge

1234
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,080
of the Easter service.

1235
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:08,440
They sang a song, quote, every morning is Easter morning from now on, end quote.

1236
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,000
She sang that often.

1237
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,480
After she passed at 47 from leukemia, heartbreakers.

1238
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,320
On the back of the headstone, I had them put every morning is Easter morning, tonight makes

1239
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,720
me want to cry.

1240
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:26,440
For her, it faces the East to catch the sunrise daily.

1241
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Thank you for your podcast and for reading Robert.

1242
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:36,800
My fountain name is Boober that you may have heard on Curry and the Keeper.

1243
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:42,360
Robert, thank you for sharing that piece of your life with us and that beautiful, beautiful

1244
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,360
moment.

1245
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:50,560
I can imagine just the beautiful weight of memories that you have when you remember her

1246
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,200
singing that song.

1247
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,400
God bless you, my friend.

1248
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,680
That's so encouraging to us.

1249
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,520
I just want to say thank you.

1250
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,520
You're a blessing.

1251
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,720
Huge blessing.

1252
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:01,720
Just beautiful.

1253
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:04,840
Then also, I have a card.

1254
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,400
An actually physical handwritten card.

1255
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,840
This is from another one of our favorite people, Renee Sechrist.

1256
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,520
She wrote this a few weeks ago in October.

1257
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,920
I had it laying here because it's not digital.

1258
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,160
I kept forgetting it.

1259
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,360
I want to share it because such a blessing.

1260
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,920
Listen to this.

1261
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,840
She says, I've once shared that I completely appreciate Jimmy's rawness from the pulpit.

1262
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,280
I am that.

1263
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,280
Very raw.

1264
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,280
Raw, real.

1265
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,280
And hopefully relevant.

1266
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,800
It is so authentic and relatable.

1267
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,600
I seriously believe my high school days were very similar.

1268
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,960
It could also be described as lost.

1269
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,440
With all the typical small country town shenanigans.

1270
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,440
Oh yeah.

1271
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,060
I often joke that I went to college to straighten up.

1272
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:54,920
College is where I met Jesus the first time with early morning devotionals at the Wesley

1273
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Foundation.

1274
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Did not even know what a devotional was.

1275
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College is also where I went to my first Christian concert, Michelle Pilar.

1276
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Oh wow.

1277
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That was one of your favorites when I met you.

1278
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We're friends on Facebook.

1279
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Of course you are.

1280
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,160
Me and Michelle Pilar.

1281
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Of course.

1282
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She says, I have been so blessed with several raw conversations with Annette during drives

1283
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to and from San Antonio.

1284
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Which I miss.

1285
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And others scattered throughout here and there.

1286
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We love that family.

1287
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The whole family is golden.

1288
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They are.

1289
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She says, now with the podcast, the two of you together bringing your full authentic selves

1290
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pow.

1291
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Like, you know, when the bold Batman show.

1292
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,480
That's what I was picturing.

1293
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So powerful.

1294
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I'm fairly certain your words are not falling on deaf ears or into the deep black abyss.

1295
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So please keep going as long as our good papa leads you.

1296
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I've heard every episode and have collected so many nuggets.

1297
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,160
I haven't even heard every episode.

1298
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,160
What?

1299
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Well, I know.

1300
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I'm kidding.

1301
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Onward Christian soldiers, many blessings Renee.

1302
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And she says she no longer has your phone number.

1303
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Remember we changed it in sabbatical.

1304
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You need to give her your number.

1305
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,880
Thank you Renee.

1306
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You're a blessing.

1307
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:12,880
I'm sorry I waited so long to read that.

1308
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I literally, it was sitting there and I just, because it's not digital, I kept not noticing.

1309
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So thank you so much.

1310
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,360
And we just want to say thank you to all of you who write, all of you who encourage.

1311
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Tina's not writing me back.

1312
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They must be out to dinner or something.

1313
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I bet they are.

1314
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,960
We can't say where we're having a meetup.

1315
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Go listen to Curry and the Keeper.

1316
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,320
They'll bring it up there.

1317
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,320
There you go.

1318
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Curry and the Keeper, one of our favorite shows.

1319
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,120
Also.

1320
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,120
There's this on tomorrow night.

1321
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,120
Yeah.

1322
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,120
They'll get it produced tomorrow night.

1323
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,240
And then No Agenda with John Dvorak and Adam, the Podfather Curry.

1324
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,640
I'm telling you the world we live in right now, that's a show you need to be listening

1325
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:53,720
to because they are deconstructing all the media lies and the media silliness.

1326
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:55,280
We've learned so much.

1327
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,720
I love having dinner with them and hearing them just give more and more information.

1328
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:04,600
Somebody asked me if I listened to No Agenda because that shows three and a half hours

1329
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two times a week.

1330
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,200
And I said, no, Adam is my best friend.

1331
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,520
No, I said Adam's my best friend.

1332
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,520
I just asked him.

1333
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,520
We were hanging out.

1334
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,520
Give me the notes.

1335
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,520
Give me the down low.

1336
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,520
He does.

1337
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,320
He just and it's such a joy.

1338
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,320
It really is.

1339
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,320
We love our friends.

1340
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,940
Obviously we have so we're so blessed with friends and amazing people.

1341
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,480
Too blessed to be stressed.

1342
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,480
We shouldn't be stressed.

1343
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,480
I know.

1344
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,080
All right, guys, we love you all.

1345
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,080
Thank you for listening to the show and being a part of this.

1346
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,040
We want you to live up in a down world.

1347
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Remember get your why straight because once you get your why who's a who, then everything

1348
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else will work out.

1349
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,400
But what will work out?

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God bless you.

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Have an amazing week on purpose.

