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This is Annette, Jimmy and Chevy coming to you from the

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home, our studio. We are on episode 33. We are living up in

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a down world. We want to welcome you to our podcast today.

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Yes. We had to switch it up today because I wanted, I think

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I needed to do the intro just for a change. And I'm glad you

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did because it sounded so refreshing hearing your voice

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first. Thank you since you love my voice so much. I do love

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your voice. Well I'm so glad. I like it when we're on the

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phone together and you're just talking. I love it. Really?

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Yeah, I love it. I'm learning to love. Unless I'm in trouble.

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Oh well that's true. That's a whole other story. And then

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you're in the doghouse. That's another, hey that's an insult

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Chevy. He didn't appreciate that comment. Well it's been a

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crazy week. Wow has it? Well it's our last week in

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sabbatical. I know so it's kind of weird isn't it? So in my mind

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Faith said are you excited about coming back? And I said well

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yes and no. She goes I get that. I get that. I said yeah I'm

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excited to go back. I'm really excited to go to church and see

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people. But it's been so refreshing. I don't know I don't

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want to lose this. Our buckets are full. Our buckets are very

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full. And overflowing. Yes absolutely. What are they

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overflowing with? What would you say just out of the top of

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your head? Gratitude, peace, joy, love, contentment. Oh my

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goodness powerful. Naomi wrote me and asked me what I've

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learned. I said it's not what I've learned it's what I've

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received. There it is. And those are the words that I sent to

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her because I felt like that's where I'm at. And I don't want

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to lose that and I don't think we have to. No I agree. I think

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it's just we're resetting ourself. And when you reset

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yourself you have a new standard. Exactly. And I believe that's

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where we're at now. We're going to have this new standard. In

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fact you even said today when I go to church on Sunday I'm just

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going to preach. I'm not going to do welcome announcements.

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I'm not going to do offering. I'm not going to do communion.

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It's just going to they're going to continue doing what they've

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been doing and you're going to come in and preach. That's

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resetting. That's hard for a pastor. That's resetting for the

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team too because they got to step up. Sometimes leadership

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whether it's a company or an organization or a church needs

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to step aside for a season so that others can step up and

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shoulder the weight, carry the government so to speak on their

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shoulders the weight of it. And then they learn, they grow, they

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expand. Exactly. And then when leadership comes back in they

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can continue to carry that and run with it because they're now

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conditioned to it. And that's really what I see happening here.

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So what it has done for you and I takes more of the load off of

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us, spreads it across the team and they also get to explore

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their skills and competencies and get to expand their capacity.

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And so I'm excited about going back to almost a different

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church. And it's so strange. I mean we go back on Sunday but

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you have to get ready for Sunday. So your sabbatical is just

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almost really over before Sunday because you do have to spend

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time studying. True. And even though you have a lot of

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overflow because of what's happened, you still have to write

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it down. You still have to get the notes to the team. There's

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a lot to do. Yeah, here we go again. We're back in. And you

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know while part of me will miss the freedom that we've had and

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just being able to offload weight and responsibility, another

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part of me is ready. It's like I'm ready to step back in. When

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I played sports growing up, which I played everything growing

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up, I never wanted to be second string ever. I signed up to

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play. I want to play. So I'm the same way in my adult life. I've

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never wanted to be second string in anything. I want to play the

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game. I want to be in the game. And so it's going to be nice

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stepping back in. That really bodes well with my personality.

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But so much of what we've learned out of this overflow we're

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talking about, our buckets are filled, our tanks are full.

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Really what we've done, I would say this because I heard

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Pastor Bill Johnson say this recently. He talked about Sabbath

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in the New Testament is every day. It's like every day we

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labor out of the posture of rest and the position of rest. We

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enter into that rest now as New Testament Christians. And so

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I've really adopted and adapted that into my heart to where now

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when we step back into the fray of life, I don't see it as a

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gerbil wheel now. I see it as laboring out of the place of

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rest, Sabbath-ing every day. Sabbath is a lifestyle, not just

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a practice. And it is a practice and should be.

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We'll continue doing that on Mondays.

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But in terms of mentality and how you approach things, we

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approach from a Sabbath mentality.

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It's a huge shift for both of us.

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It really, really has.

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Yeah. What else?

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What a gift.

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Oh, I know. I was sharing with a friend today. I have a friend

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in Arizona, Pastor Dennis Lee, and Pastor Dennis is about to

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start his sabbatical. He's never had one before. He starts

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on September 17th. So I just shared some things with him and

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said, you know, before we started, we visited with a

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pastor, Pastor Matthew or Pastor Matt, who said to us with

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great regret and remorse, I squandered. I squandered the

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gift. I squandered the sabbatical. And that really

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imprinted us so that our whole mentality, how many times have

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Exactly. Well, we didn't.

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Over and over. No, we've stayed focused and we have entered

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daily practices of our renewal and getting our buckets

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refilled with the presence of God and hosting the presence of

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God and walking with Him. So I appreciate Pastor Matthew, even

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though it was out of his pain, he shared a key for us to say,

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we will not squander it. So I shared that with Pastor Dennis.

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I said, man, whatever you do, I said, we even changed our phone

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numbers that we'd had for what, 11, 12 years?

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Yeah, a long time, over a decade.

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Yeah, so over 11 years. And what it did, it created silence.

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It created automatic silence because nobody could call us.

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We had a handful of people we connected with throughout this

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time, which was wonderful. But the fact that we had that piece

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and our phones were just blowing up constantly, we, way too many

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people had our phone number and that's not going to happen this

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go around. So we have new numbers and that was, I told him, I

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said, you should change your phone number.

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Or get a burner phone.

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Or get a phone that, yeah, and put your phone away.

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Because he might not want to change his number.

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He may not.

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I mean, I think I was ready because we've had our phone

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number from Nashville for so many years. And I felt like this

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kind of, you know, a lot of people think that when a pastor

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takes a sabbatical, that they're not going to come back.

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That's true.

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And I thought this actually says we are.

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So I'm getting excited.

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We're at so much so that we changed our number to a local area code number.

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That's right. We're here.

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And so I felt like that was kind of part of that.

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Kind of symbolic, isn't it?

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Or a gesture.

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Definitely.

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Yeah. It works both ways.

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I like that.

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And it's been good actually.

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I actually can remember it, which is huge.

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Should we share it on the podcast?

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Oh, okay. You're right.

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That's the whole point.

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Kind of defeat the purpose. I'm kidding.

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No, I can't quote it, which I'm excited about. It's a miracle.

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So what a great week we've had.

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Now we're moving into sort of a transition.

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I did something yesterday for the first time.

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I know.

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For the first time through the whole sabbatical.

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I've not even peeked at our church services online.

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And you watched Pastor Eddie Freeman's message because we heard something.

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We got feedback.

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People were like, oh my gosh, this was amazing.

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And I was like, okay, I have to at least hear it.

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And I was cool with that.

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But I didn't watch any of the rest of it.

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All I watched was him.

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I was at the gym and I had it in my ear.

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To me that was the same as listening to Gateway or whoever.

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And so, yeah, it was phenomenal.

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He did a phenomenal job.

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Ended up preaching the message that impacted him the most in his life,

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which impacted us.

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And impacted us from Pastor R.T. Kendall.

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R.T. Kendall that preached at their church a few weeks ago.

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And he preached it from his perspective.

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He didn't take all of his notes, but he used some of his insight.

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But it was amazing.

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It really was.

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That's the only thing I've listened to.

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I can't wait to listen to it.

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I know it was because you were telling me about it.

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But I'm looking forward to listening to it myself.

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We're going to go back and listen to all of them.

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Well, what I did yesterday, I watched the opening, the credits, so to speak,

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on the podcast, on the video, the broadcast.

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And I just was so proud.

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And then I watched just clips.

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I didn't actually watch the whole thing, but I just skipped around.

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And it made me so proud of our team.

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I was watching them step up because they've had two months to do it.

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So they've really gotten good at it.

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And it made me happy because I already felt it took more weight off my shoulders.

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Stepping back in, it was like next Sunday, and I'm not playing guitar next Sunday.

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So we will literally show up, love on as many people as we can,

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because I can't wait to be like a family reunion,

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and just teach and preach the Word, which I'm so excited about.

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I have to tell you something that Faith told me this morning.

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Because I told her, you know, I said we were about to get ready to go to the gym.

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And so I said, I need to get off the phone because I've got to go get ready to go to the gym.

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And I said, yeah, it's going to be quite interesting because we're in a routine.

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And you know what she said to me, this was so interesting.

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I didn't even tell you this.

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She said, well, I just want you to know that we've built in so many things in the week

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that you'll be able to work out every day.

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I'm just like, what?

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What have they built in to where we can go work out?

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What has our team done since you've been gone?

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I know.

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What does that mean?

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I didn't even expound on it because we're not supposed to talk about church.

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I can't wait to find out.

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She just wanted to share with me that that was not going to be something

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that we were going to have to worry about.

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I'm like, okay.

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I have to say it out loud.

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We are so blessed by the people we work with.

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Wonderful.

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For those of you who may be joining us for the first time,

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Annette and I are lead pastors for it's called Bridge Church,

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Fredericksburg, Texas.

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And we've been there about seven and a half coming up on eight years.

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No, not eight years, it's about seven and a half years.

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We've been there and we are so blessed to serve with this church and serve this body.

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We actually relaunched the church from Oak Hills, so no need to go into all that detail.

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But we've been there seven and a half years and we could not be happier

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and be more in love with a group of people than this church.

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They really are our spiritual family.

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So we've missed that.

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I had to mourn and grieve a little bit of that loss.

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That was the adjustment during the beginning of the sabbatical.

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Anyway, having said all that, we're excited to come back.

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We're a little nervous.

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It's kind of going to be weird walking back in there for the first time.

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I know.

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It really is because you just don't know what to expect.

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A little bit strange, but I'm excited anyway.

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My excitement way overweighs the weirdness.

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So you've had quite...I mean, God has been speaking to you in so many ways

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throughout the sabbatical.

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Me too, but I love hearing you expound and share on what He's been speaking.

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I know this morning, He led you into Ephesians chapter one and blew your mind.

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I have two different devotions I do in the morning.

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One of the devotions I did, He was talking about wisdom.

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I thought, oh, surely He's going to use that verse as part of the devotion.

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This was Bill Johnson's The Way of Life devotion, which is phenomenal on Bible...

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Uversion.

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He didn't use that scripture, but I really felt like the Lord said,

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go find that scripture.

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So I went...I knew it was in Ephesians that was talking about wisdom

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and understanding, your eyes being enlightened.

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And I just...I started reading and I couldn't quit reading Ephesians.

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I read the whole chapter of Ephesians this morning.

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I just...and I have another...right now I'm kind of reading the Psalms.

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I felt like the Lord has led me to read the Psalms.

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of the Psalms, but I really, really...something He wants to glean out of that.

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is he's praying over them that they will receive wisdom and revelation.

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And do you want me to read some of this?

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Sure, yeah.

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This is so good.

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Share what God's showing.

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So he says...and I'm going to read Ephesians 1, but he's thanking God for them

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like he always does.

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He's just...he was an amazing apostle.

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in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.

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Okay, so that jumped out because I was listening to another teaching recently

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talking about our image and how we have a hard time receiving love because of how

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And so I was thinking about, you know, we've talked about me having issues with

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That...there's still...there's a lot of...

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Can I say something?

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So the power of reframing something.

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So if you say...so words matter and definitions of words matter.

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So if you're talking about body dysmorphia, it kind of limits the scope of that.

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But what God is doing, he's working on the whole person, right?

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All three parts, which are?

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I mean, all three.

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he loves us, I was thinking back of how...you know how John, the disciple,

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always referred to himself as whom God loved, whom God loved.

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I'm the disciple whom God loved, you can take it as, wow, he's pretty boastful.

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What, does he not believe God loves any of the other disciples when he's talking

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with them about it?

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back was that he had finally gotten a revelation of God's love.

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to continue that revelation.

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Beautiful.

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So again, in reading this, that just really stood out to me.

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So can I repeat what you just said?

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Sometimes it's good to hear something over.

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Even before God made the world, God loved us, chose us in Christ to be holy

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and without fault.

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Yes, which is without blame.

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In his eyes, without blame.

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Oh, my goodness.

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Blameless.

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That is massive.

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Yeah, that's thunder in my soul.

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Let me go to this other Scripture.

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I love this.

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God has now revealed to us, this is verse 9, his mysterious will regarding

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Christ, which is to fulfill his own good plan.

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At the right time, he will bring everything together under the authority of

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Christ, everything in heaven and on earth.

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from God, for he chose us in advance and he makes everything work according to

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his plan.

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He chose us in advance.

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There again is showing how much he loves us that he actually chose us in advance.

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Okay, I see what you're doing.

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And now the Gentiles have also heard the truth, the good news that God saves you.

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When you have believed in Christ, he identified you as his own.

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I love that.

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Ah, he's identified us as his own by giving us the Holy Spirit whom he promised

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long ago.

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I keep changing this so it's moving my words.

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It's because our notes are connected.

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Okay, I'm going to go to...

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I know our notes are connected, but you can't do that anymore.

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I'll stop.

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Because I don't know where I'm at now.

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Verse 13 is what you just did.

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Okay, let's see.

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The Spirit is God's guarantee that he will give us the inheritance he promised.

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He has purchased us to be his own people.

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He did this so we would praise and glorify him.

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Okay, stop right there.

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Praise and glorify.

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Okay, he made us in his image.

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He purchased us as his own.

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But there's a caveat there.

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There's something weird to do and it's to glorify and praise him.

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Okay, this is where I have a hard time.

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Sorry, I was touching this.

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This is where I have a hard time with people who say I don't like worship.

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Okay, this is what we're created for.

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Created to worship God.

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To praise him and to give him glory.

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And that, boy, that scripture, it stuck out to me this morning.

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So let's sit on that for just a moment.

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So I came to Christ a little bit later in life as a 19-year-old and instantly,

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everything in me wanted to know the Bible.

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I wanted to read the Bible, so I started reading it totally unguided.

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I just started, picked it up and started reading.

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No clue, but there was something in me.

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There was a voracious hunger for the Word of God.

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Because God put that in you.

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Because it's in me.

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As a follower of Christ, I get to know him by knowing his Word.

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And if it's not in you, it makes you wonder.

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Bingo.

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So I just devoured the Word of God.

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The other piece was I wanted to worship.

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I wanted, it was innate.

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It's inside us.

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We're created in the Imago Dei, the image of God,

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and something in us wants to worship him, autopilot.

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I mean, and then when you become a follower of Christ, it's like, there it is.

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There's this desire and this release.

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I have a massive concern as a pastor of 38 years, leading churches all over America.

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I have a massive concern about people who have zero desire to worship God.

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Right, but they'll go to a football game.

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Oh, and lose their minds.

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And lose their minds.

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Or a concert.

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Not everybody's the same.

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But if you don't even have a desire for worship and you don't even want to come during the worship time,

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you want to wait and come to church during the sermon or whatever, it just, I question.

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Do you really have a deep love for God?

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Do you, no, let me put it this way.

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Do you understand God's love for you?

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Because when you understand God's love for you, it changes everything.

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Another way to say it is, do you know him?

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Do you know him?

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He knows you, but do you know him?

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you wouldn't be able to hold back worship.

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Yes, right.

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You'd become one of those people.

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I'm going to go on to number six, verse 16.

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I have not, this is Paul again, talking to the church at Ephesus.

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I have not stopped thanking God for you, which I love that.

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I pray for you constantly asking God, now this is what he's asking God,

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the glorious father of our Lord Jesus Christ, to give you spiritual wisdom and insight

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so that you might grow in your knowledge of God.

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Okay, that's our life scripture.

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You and I have talked about this.

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Used to be that I may know him, Philippians 3, 10, and the power of his resurrection,

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blah, blah, blah.

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This one, I think, is more powerful because when we gain wisdom and understanding,

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we have it all.

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Think about that.

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We have it all because he says we have the mind of Christ,

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but we have to tap into it, and that wisdom and understanding comes with that.

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That's what every believer should be praying is for wisdom and understanding.

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Now, I don't just pray that spiritually.

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I pray for us doing this keto, this diet that we're doing.

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It's not even a diet.

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It's just our new life's...

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Carnivore.

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Yeah, or excuse me, carnivore, yes, keto-vore.

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We literally have been praying and asking God to give us wisdom and understanding

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because we don't want to do something that's just a fad.

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A lot of people do that.

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They go from diet to diet.

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We want to do something that's going to be best for our health.

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So we're using this in every area of our life.

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But also, you and I talked about, obviously, having the issues that I've had

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with body dysmorphia.

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I want wisdom and understanding, so much of how much God loves and cares for me

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that he wants me to not care about those things.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Yes, and that's where reframing comes in.

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What reframing does, it's like taking a frame off of a picture,

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because it looks one way, and you put a different frame on it,

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then the picture looks different.

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It freshens it up or it changes it.

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And I love that because I love interior designs.

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which is so common, I think everybody has it to a degree.

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Well, think about it.

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Because we live a life of comparison.

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Well, think about it.

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We live a life of comparison.

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And let's just say we have a group picture made, and you show me a picture.

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Who's the first person I'm going to look at?

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Myself.

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I'm going to see.

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not a great picture.

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It's a terrible picture.

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But it's all about me.

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What is wrong with us?

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We're very me-centric.

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Ego-centric.

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Very me-centric.

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That's where we need to be.

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And I feel like that's one of the things that He's really been showing me

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through this sabbatical.

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Let me go on to this.

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He says in verse 18,

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I pray that your hearts will be flooded with light

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so that you can understand the confident hope

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He has given to those He called.

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His holy people who are His rich and glorious inheritance.

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Again, we are called.

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We are chosen.

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Gosh, if we could all get a hold of that,

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it would change how we do anything.

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You know what I'm saying?

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We live so under the fray instead of over the fray,

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like you say, quite a bit.

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Above it.

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This is where living up in a down world comes in.

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This is why we have to fill our things with things that God says about us.

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We're chosen.

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We're called.

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We're holy.

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We're loved.

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We're blameless.

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All of those.

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And they're all true.

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And yet the world will tell us the opposite.

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The world will say, you don't measure up

493
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000
because you don't look like this billboard

494
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000
or you don't look like this magazine cover.

495
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000
Or you don't look like all the Instagram pictures that you see

496
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000
or whatever social media is dishing up that week.

497
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Right.

498
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000
And you know, back, we talked about this earlier today.

499
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,000
Back in the days when they didn't have TV, internet, the whole bit,

500
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000
they didn't have to compare themselves.

501
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000
Now, and they did.

502
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Yet they did.

503
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Yet they did.

504
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000
It's an old condition.

505
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Yes.

506
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000
But look at our world.

507
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000
We're constantly comparing ourselves.

508
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
Our heart is assaulted daily.

509
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
But you know what?

510
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Who we should be comparing ourselves with is God

511
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000
because He's our standard, not people.

512
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000
But how many times do we compare ourselves with other people?

513
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000
Am I good enough?

514
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Am I pretty enough?

515
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000
Am I broad enough?

516
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,000
Is my voice good enough?

517
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Okay, I'm learning, Adam Curry, I'm learning

518
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000
because I need to start to love who God made me

519
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,000
and not try to change it.

520
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Oh, I'm going to cry.

521
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Because I feel like I'm getting a revelation of that.

522
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Beautiful.

523
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,000
And again, these are those nuggets of understanding

524
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000
and wisdom and revelation that God is bringing to us.

525
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
And you know what the thing about this?

526
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000
He gives this to us every day.

527
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000
We just don't tap into it.

528
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000
It's a gift.

529
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000
It is.

530
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000
It is a gift.

531
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Can I share something?

532
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,000
Because what you said really sparked something

533
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
and it's out of Psalm 139.

534
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Yes.

535
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000
So listen to this.

536
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000
This is how God sees you in me.

537
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000
It says this, Psalm 139 verse 13,

538
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000
for you formed my inward parts,

539
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,000
you covered me in my mother's womb.

540
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,000
I will praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.

541
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Marvelous are your works.

542
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000
And that my soul knows very well.

543
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,000
My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in secret

544
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,000
and skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

545
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Your eyes saw my substance being yet unformed.

546
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,000
And in your book, they all were written the days fashioned for me.

547
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000
When as yet there were none of them.

548
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000
The last verse.

549
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,000
How precious also are your thoughts to me, O God.

550
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
How great is the sum of them.

551
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,000
That's how God sees you and sees me.

552
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,000
Exactly.

553
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,000
And it's almost like if we have such an issue

554
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000
with how we see ourselves,

555
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000
then we need to constantly,

556
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,000
it's like we need to have that scripture in front of us at all time

557
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
so that we can get a revelation.

558
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Because revelation is only going to come

559
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000
through constant reminder of what God says.

560
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000
It's not going to come just through osmosis.

561
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000
It's going to come because we're looking at the Word.

562
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Yes.

563
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
That's why we have to stay in the Word.

564
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000
If there is ever a time in history that people,

565
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,000
the people of God, people who are exploring God and seeking, so to speak,

566
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,000
if there was ever a time in history for people to get back to the Bible,

567
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000
it's now.

568
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Get in the Word.

569
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000
I cannot say it strongly enough.

570
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
You need to get in the Word.

571
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
You need to get in the Bible as much as you're on screen time

572
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,000
which is you're scrolling Instagram and doom-scrolling other things

573
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000
like X and Facebook and all that.

574
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000
You need to be in the Word.

575
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,000
And if you're doing those things in a disproportionate amount

576
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000
to the time you're spending in God's Word,

577
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000
yet you say you're a follower of Christ, then there's a problem.

578
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Your tank is getting filled, but with the wrong things.

579
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Right.

580
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000
And what will happen is you'll begin to believe the lies

581
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000
that the enemy will tell us.

582
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000
Because he's an opportunist.

583
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Exactly.

584
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
And a liar, the Bible says.

585
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000
And we're not telling people to be legalistic.

586
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000
No, not at all.

587
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000
But, you know, because I can get in the Word through song, too.

588
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,000
I can listen to it.

589
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Worship.

590
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Worship.

591
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
I love music that has the Word in it.

592
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Our contemporary Christian music is amazing.

593
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Yes.

594
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000
K-Love Radio is fantastic.

595
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000
But what are we dwelling on?

596
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Exactly.

597
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
What are we dwelling on?

598
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Yeah.

599
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000
So let me go through here.

600
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Verse 19, I also pray that you will understand the incredible greatness

601
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000
of God's power for us who believe in him.

602
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,000
This is the same mighty power that raised Christ from the dead

603
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:51,000
and seated him in the place of honor at God's right hand in the heavenly realms.

604
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Now he is far above any ruler or authority or power or leader or anything else,

605
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,000
not only in this world, but also in this world to come.

606
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,000
God has put all things under the authority of Christ

607
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000
and has made him head over all things for the benefit of the church.

608
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
And the church is his body.

609
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,000
It is made full and complete by Christ who fills all things everywhere with himself.

610
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,000
I think the Scripture that really stood out to me is I also pray that you will understand,

611
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,000
this is verse 19, the incredible greatness of God's power for us who believe in him.

612
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Beautiful.

613
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000
God's power.

614
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000
For us.

615
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:36,000
For us to change us, to enlighten us, to give us wisdom, to heal people,

616
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,000
to bring miracles about, to bring people to salvation that we've been praying for.

617
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,000
That's the power of Christ, not in us, but in him.

618
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000
To heal hearts.

619
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000
Yes.

620
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000
To mend hearts.

621
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Yes.

622
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Strongholds that are attached.

623
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Because so much of what we do in this life comes through the lens of the grid of trauma

624
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000
and the grid of pain.

625
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
I've experienced all that.

626
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Almost everywhere.

627
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Right.

628
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
But I would dare say to a degree.

629
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000
I literally trauma so much that, yes.

630
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
But what it does, it taints.

631
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
It does.

632
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,000
Now you see everything through that filter and it actually changes the actual,

633
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000
instead of seeing what's true, you see a distortion.

634
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Right.

635
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
And so until...

636
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
So you have to change that filter.

637
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
So this has to get healed over time.

638
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
And we were talking in the car coming back from the gym,

639
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,000
we got about a 20-minute drive and I made this comment.

640
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000
I said, it's interesting because it's like peeling a layer.

641
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Like an onion.

642
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000
The other day I cut up an onion for our dinner and I was...

643
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
I accidentally kept grabbing layer by layer going,

644
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
I keep pulling the layers apart.

645
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:48,000
But it reminded me of how we learn and process information that as we grow in maturity in Christ,

646
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,000
as we grow as followers of Jesus, it's like peeling layer back, layer back, healing happens.

647
00:30:53,000 --> 00:31:00,000
And then sometimes we fall as we think, we had a moment at the altar with God or prayer and I'm healed.

648
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
And then a trigger comes up and, oh, I'm not healed.

649
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000
All it is is another layer.

650
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000
You are getting healed, but it's layer by layer by layer by layer.

651
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
And sometimes it's year by year by year.

652
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Exactly.

653
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Sometimes there's a miracle and then sometimes it's slower.

654
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000
And yet the miracle can be the process too.

655
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000
It's both, it's a miracle whether it's in a nanosecond or it's years.

656
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
But we celebrate the wins as we go.

657
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Exactly.

658
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Beautiful, Annette.

659
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Love what you're sharing here.

660
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:41,000
Well, and so to me, the issue that I have had ongoing with body or image dysmorphia, as you put it,

661
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,000
if I could just get a continual revelation of God's love for me, those things won't matter.

662
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
And that's what I'm striving for.

663
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:57,000
If you're going to strive for anything, don't strive to look more beautiful, to be thinner, to be, you know,

664
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:07,000
a better person, strive to be, to have that revelation of God's love so that everything will flow out of that.

665
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,000
So let me flip the coin here.

666
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,000
Let me just flip the script, so to speak.

667
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
That doesn't mean you don't take care of yourself.

668
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Exactly.

669
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000
You work on yourself and you improve yourself in your education.

670
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
Again, mind, body, spirit connection.

671
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000
Right, right, totally.

672
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000
You know, that we're tripartite.

673
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
We're three parts, mind, body, spirit.

674
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
So during the sabbatical, I've been focusing on mind, body, spirit.

675
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Exactly.

676
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
You and I have been having conversation of conversation.

677
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,000
It's not one without the other.

678
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Exactly.

679
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Everything gets impacted and affected.

680
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,000
So what we're not saying is just give up and say, well, forget it.

681
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000
I'm just, I'm, this is, I've got high blood pressure.

682
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000
But what is your motive?

683
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,000
And I've got all this stuff.

684
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
I've got all this physical issues.

685
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,000
There you go.

686
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:52,000
To be fit for the kingdom so that we can continue to do what we're doing, not so we'll be prettier

687
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000
or thinner or whatever.

688
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000
And I like to say it like this.

689
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000
It's living by the way God designed us to live.

690
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,000
He designed our bodies to function a certain way, our minds to work a certain way, and

691
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
our spirits to operate.

692
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:10,000
So as we grow and mature, we want to continue to explore through His Word and through living

693
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,000
this life with Jesus in relationship what that looks like and how that applies on an

694
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,000
ongoing basis.

695
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Yes.

696
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,000
So for us, we've made some serious lifestyle decisions to say, I'm not going to partake

697
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000
of that anymore.

698
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000
I'm not going to have that anymore, but I am going to have this because it's healthy

699
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000
for my body.

700
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000
And we're doing the research.

701
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000
We're doing that with our minds and our wellness in every area.

702
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000
A friend of mine used to call it total life victory.

703
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Oh, yeah.

704
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Remember that?

705
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Pastor Linden.

706
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Linden.

707
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000
He used to talk about total life victory.

708
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Oh, that's what we should change our podcast to.

709
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Total life.

710
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000
I love that.

711
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Well, that's what living up and down world, it's the same.

712
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000
I know.

713
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000
It is.

714
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000
It's just different words.

715
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000
But he used to talk about total life victory and the mind-body-spirit connection.

716
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Now so was it on track with him for that.

717
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
And we want to encourage you.

718
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:01,000
We're not saying don't give up on your body image and all that, but we got to get the

719
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
horse in front of the cart and sit in the cart in front of the horse.

720
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Yes.

721
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Because look at all the energy we have now.

722
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000
I know.

723
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000
We're buzzing.

724
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
And that's because of what we've done with our food.

725
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000
And you've got to do what God tells you to do, not what we're doing.

726
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000
That's right.

727
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,000
We would never tell you what to do.

728
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
No.

729
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,440
But the thing is, now we have so much energy, we're going to have the energy to do what

730
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,000
God's calling us to do in times of revival.

731
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Absolutely.

732
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
And mental focus.

733
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Yes.

734
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,000
I want to think better.

735
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000
We don't have the fog.

736
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000
I want to stay sharp, brain fog gone.

737
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,200
COVID did a number on us with all the brain fog.

738
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Cultural trauma.

739
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Yes.

740
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,600
And now we're resetting our self, our mind, spirit, body.

741
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Yeah.

742
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,520
Not just through diet, but through mind and through the Holy Spirit.

743
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,320
So this is a tripartite approach, mind, body, spirit.

744
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,520
And I love, we should just pull that total life victory.

745
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,520
I love it.

746
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,520
I know.

747
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,520
We really do.

748
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Okay.

749
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,160
Last thing I would like for you to share, and we wrote this down on our note, is what

750
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,560
you've gleaned this revelation from the Lord's Prayer.

751
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,160
Yes.

752
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,080
So I've been going through the Lord's Prayer and using it as a template because Jesus said,

753
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,440
when the disciples said, teach us to pray, he said, do this.

754
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,680
So that's how you pray.

755
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,280
He said, here's a template.

756
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Here's a pattern.

757
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,760
So I go through that every day.

758
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,120
I've been waking up at five or six and for about an hour laying in bed.

759
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,080
I don't get out of bed.

760
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,160
Most times I did today, but mostly I don't, I'll do it before I even get up.

761
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,560
I have this prayer time with the Lord and I start with, you know, I break down each

762
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,560
part of it.

763
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,240
So I'm just going to fast forward though to the part you and I talked about today.

764
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:48,200
And it was this, give us this day our daily bread.

765
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,120
And the revelation that went off in me, and the word revelation, this means greater understanding,

766
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,040
it's to peel the layer back.

767
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,960
So what was revealed to me as I thought about that, meditated on, is first of all, it's

768
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,960
a daily prayer.

769
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,800
Give us this day our daily bread.

770
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,840
I never thought about it that way.

771
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,840
It's a daily prayer.

772
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,160
It's a daily thing, but also it's a current thing.

773
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:17,040
So daily, and it harkens back to the Israelites when they were during the Exodus, when they

774
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,400
left Egypt and they were in the desert, they were crying out for food and God said, I'm

775
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,900
going to feed you supernaturally.

776
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:29,520
He dropped manna, which is a flaky crusty kind of...

777
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Talk about bread since we're not doing bread.

778
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,160
Oh yeah, we're not doing bread.

779
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:39,000
But anyway, it's a bread type substance and God supernaturally dropped it out of heaven.

780
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,760
But he told them, only gather enough for you and your family today.

781
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,760
Don't store up.

782
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Because he wasn't going to give them day old bread the next day.

783
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,080
And what would happen is if they tried to like sneak some extra helpings, because what

784
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,080
if God didn't show up tomorrow, it would have worms in it.

785
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,080
It would just go sour.

786
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,720
That's how I have to think about bread right now.

787
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,040
Moldy bread, right.

788
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:11,240
And so they were only able to depend on God for what was in the now, in the present, what

789
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:12,240
was current.

790
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:18,600
Well, I was thinking about that as I was praying one morning at 5.15 and it occurred to me

791
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,920
and I said it out loud under my breath because I'm going to wake you and chavvy up from bed.

792
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,480
But I said, Lord, I don't want yesterday's manna.

793
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,120
I want what's current today.

794
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,680
I need a word from you today.

795
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,240
I need to hear from you.

796
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:32,240
I need to walk with you.

797
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,960
I need to know you better.

798
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640
I want to have an ongoing conversation today.

799
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,480
I want to practice your presence today because I don't want day old bread.

800
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,200
And what do they do with day old bread at the store?

801
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,040
They discount it and put it on this little rack at the back of the store, you know, 70%

802
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,480
off day old bread.

803
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,480
I remember…

804
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,880
And it's never as good as the fresh bread.

805
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,160
It's never as good as fresh bread.

806
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Remember when we lived in Abilene?

807
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,120
There was this place.

808
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,440
We drove by it every day.

809
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,440
It was torture.

810
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Mrs. Baird's Bread Bakery.

811
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,840
Huge facility.

812
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,400
And anybody within 15 miles of that place could smell fresh bread.

813
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,440
It was brutal.

814
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,440
It was brutal.

815
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,440
You drive through this cloud.

816
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,440
It's funny how it smells so good.

817
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,440
It's an aroma cloud.

818
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,200
But then when you got it from the grocery store because it wasn't fresh that day, it

819
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,200
didn't taste as good.

820
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,200
But it smelled good.

821
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,200
It was brutal.

822
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,200
It was torture.

823
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,600
But I thought about that today and it was like, you know, that's current.

824
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,600
That's out of the oven.

825
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,080
It's hot out of the oven.

826
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,080
But that's how I want words from God and wisdom.

827
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,080
You're talking about wisdom.

828
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,080
I want wisdom that's fresh for today.

829
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:37,640
And we talked about when we do the newsletter, we talked about, let's put what our topic

830
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:44,200
is, we can't because when you do the newsletter, typically Saturday or Sunday, things change

831
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,520
with us daily.

832
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,360
We get a new and fresh manna from God every day.

833
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,320
And so we have to…we just can't do that.

834
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,680
I mean, if God directed us to do that, we would.

835
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,680
But we really feel like it needs to be fresh off the…out of the oven.

836
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Out of the oven.

837
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Yeah.

838
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Oh, I don't want to talk about that.

839
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Because we're living off today's manna.

840
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,080
That's what that is.

841
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,800
And so we kind of…we live our life that way.

842
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,960
You do that with church sermons.

843
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,960
I do.

844
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,760
A lot of times you'll get up that morning and God changes everything.

845
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,040
You're like, sorry.

846
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Pretty common.

847
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,040
Yeah.

848
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,360
I'm not…I can't do this series that I had planned.

849
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,360
I still study.

850
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,360
I still prepare.

851
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,560
I do all the work up front and then I'm always open to fresh manna.

852
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,560
Absolutely.

853
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Yeah.

854
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Still like the day old stuff.

855
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,560
No.

856
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,560
I hope you're encouraged.

857
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,560
Anything else on that?

858
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,560
No.

859
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,560
That was so rich.

860
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Thank you for sharing.

861
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,560
No, that was so good.

862
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,560
I'm just glad that I'm…

863
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,560
Powerful.

864
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,560
…can hear from God.

865
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,080
I think there's one tidbit you missed that was so good.

866
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,840
When you shared it with me, it went off like a bomb.

867
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,840
Okay.

868
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,840
What did I share?

869
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,840
It was that John…

870
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,840
No, I said that.

871
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,240
…it took years for him to come…

872
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,240
Oh, yeah.

873
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,240
Well, you need to camp on that a moment.

874
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,240
Yes.

875
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,240
Okay.

876
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,400
…and then 60 years before he wrote the book of John.

877
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,760
And so 60 years from the time he was…

878
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,280
With Jesus.

879
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,640
…with Jesus saying, you know, he sees everything Jesus does.

880
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960
He's there with all the miracles.

881
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:15,560
But did he have a revelation of God or was it when he wrote it 60 years later, was trying

882
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,000
to remember everything that happened and then put whom Jesus…

883
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:26,840
We heard one person, one pastor say, it took him 60 years to finally have the confidence

884
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,920
and the revelation that I am the one who God loves.

885
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,200
He wasn't saying he didn't love others.

886
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,680
He was saying it for himself.

887
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,680
…self because he gained the revelation.

888
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,320
I'm the disciple who Jesus loved.

889
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,840
Oh, I don't want it to take 60 years.

890
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,760
I don't want it to take 60 years.

891
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,880
And we are definitely growing, but it's a reminder to grow into it.

892
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,880
There you go.

893
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:53,560
It may have taken 60 years for us to really feel that and know his love.

894
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,560
Such a good word.

895
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,040
You know, you walked in the room this morning holding a Bible in your hand and I thought,

896
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,120
oh my gosh, Katie bar the door.

897
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Get a room.

898
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:11,640
I mean, when you are so filled with God's heart and word, I love you always, period.

899
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,240
But there is something that happens that makes you even more beautiful than you already are

900
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,720
because you already are to me, you're God's daughter.

901
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,320
But when you walk in the room with a Bible and I can see…

902
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,240
I know you almost dropped what was in your hand.

903
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,240
I was like, wait.

904
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:28,240
I was like, oh, here it comes.

905
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,240
She's got a heavy heavy.

906
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,240
Well, and it's just that I have my phone, but I had my Bible.

907
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:38,480
And that was another thing we talked about is really, you really have this conviction.

908
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,480
I do.

909
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,320
And want to talk to the church about bringing your Bible.

910
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,320
Bringing your Bible to church.

911
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,320
But it's hard.

912
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,320
I appreciate phones.

913
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,160
If we have it up there, we can't get it quick enough.

914
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,160
We're going to have to have both.

915
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:53,320
But my thought on that is there's something that's tactile about holding a Bible.

916
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,680
Now I've got an iPad mini, which is book size, which I really like.

917
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,420
And I do a lot of my reading and study off of that because it's handy and I can get

918
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:03,420
different translations.

919
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:05,480
I can jump into Greek words.

920
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,240
But during the sabbatical, I've just gotten back into the habit of picking up my Bible,

921
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,280
the one that's got my notes in it, my highlights in it.

922
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,440
I jot things in the margin.

923
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,760
It to me, I don't see it as a holy book to not be used.

924
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,760
It's a workbook.

925
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,760
Right, exactly.

926
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,760
It's a book of life.

927
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,760
It's a manual.

928
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,760
Some people feel like it's so holy they won't even...

929
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,760
I mean, write in their Bible.

930
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,440
No, you need to write in that bad boy so you can remember what God spoke to you on that

931
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,440
moment.

932
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,320
Well, I've taken one of your older Bibles that you have written in.

933
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,880
I kind of wanted it back different times.

934
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,880
No.

935
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,880
I had good notes in it.

936
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,520
Because I like seeing what you're gleaning out of and what your understanding and revelation

937
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,520
is.

938
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,520
So no, it's mine.

939
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,520
It's mine.

940
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Hey, so let's take a moment and thank some folks.

941
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,440
First of all, I want to say thanks to everybody, don't we?

942
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Yes.

943
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,440
We want them to subscribe.

944
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:55,840
You can go to our website, livingupinadownworld.com, and you can subscribe and join our mailing

945
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,840
list.

946
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,080
And all we'll do is send a weekly email newsletter.

947
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,080
It's very short to the point.

948
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,080
Throw a few pictures.

949
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,360
It's more of a reminder that, hey, we've got our podcast coming.

950
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,360
So be sure and join us.

951
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,600
But we'd love for you to become part of our community just simply by doing that.

952
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,920
And that list is growing.

953
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,240
We've had several more this week.

954
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:19,880
And then we also, we have people who bless us through what is called Value for Value.

955
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,120
And all Value for Value is, it's recognizing value in something.

956
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,920
Like if someone's doing something for me and I see value in it, like a server at a restaurant,

957
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,760
you know, they're doing something and I can tell they're going an extra mile and they're

958
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,360
really, they're providing a beautiful service.

959
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,600
And I want to compensate them accordingly because they've earned it.

960
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,940
It's like, yeah, value for value.

961
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:45,000
And so if what we are doing is encouraging you and helping you in your journey of faith

962
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:51,120
and in this life and living up in a down world, then we would simply ask, return the value.

963
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,280
And there's different ways to do that.

964
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
On our newsletter, we have a PayPal account.

965
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,200
You can send in value to help us with that.

966
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,800
That helps us keep this thing going.

967
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:08,600
And also you can go listen to us on the website to support Podcasting 2.0, which is Value

968
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,600
for Value.

969
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,960
Fountain is one that we use all the time and we like that.

970
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,200
And we like to boost our friends, Adam and Tina Curry.

971
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:22,420
We love, love, love their amazing podcast called Curry and the Keeper.

972
00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:25,200
We recommend that you go and listen to that.

973
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,120
They've been out of our lives for a few weeks.

974
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,120
They've been on vacation.

975
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,120
A huge trip.

976
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,480
Well, we're having dinner twice with them this week.

977
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,640
So we've got to make up for lost time.

978
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,920
Got to catch up and we've missed them.

979
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,880
And so we're excited they're back in town.

980
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,880
We stay in touch with them the whole time, but it's different via text than going to

981
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,880
have dinner together.

982
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,880
So super glad.

983
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,400
But anyway, check out their podcast, Living Up in a Down World.

984
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,120
No, he's our executive producer.

985
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,200
But Curry and the Keeper and then also his podcast with John DeVorek.

986
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,200
No agenda.

987
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,240
So check those out and support them as well.

988
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:01,240
So again, thank you.

989
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:02,640
And just a couple of shouts.

990
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Just want to say thank you.

991
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,880
I'm going to pull this up.

992
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,960
Got a beautiful couple of letters.

993
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,480
Man, I just love it when people sign stuff.

994
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,480
KTLD.

995
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Remember what that meant?

996
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,480
Keep the lid down.

997
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Keep the lid down.

998
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,800
You've got to get that soundtrack from Adam.

999
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,920
Got a nice note from Andy Crow.

1000
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,920
I'm not going to share what he is.

1001
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,600
A little more private in nature, but Andy, I'm praying for you, brother.

1002
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,520
I did send you an email back just to encourage you and thank you for letting us know and

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how much you appreciate the podcast.

1004
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It means a ton to us.

1005
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So thank you, Andy.

1006
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I just want to give you a shout out.

1007
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Also Shelly.

1008
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Shelly wrote back.

1009
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Shelly's been a listener and she wrote a beautiful...

1010
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Listen to this encouragement.

1011
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,080
Hi, Pastor Jimmy and Dame Annette.

1012
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You both came to mind the other morning as I was reading and in the spirit of not withholding

1013
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,320
encouragement, I wanted to send you a little.

1014
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I was reading in John 4 where Jesus met the Samaritan woman at the well, asked for water

1015
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and offered her living water.

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She was surprised and taken aback by what he knew about her.

1017
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And later in the chapter it says she went and told everyone what he had said to her.

1018
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He told me everything I've ever done.

1019
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As the chapter continues, my favorite verse is verse 42.

1020
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They said to the woman, it is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have

1021
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heard for ourselves and we know that this is indeed the savior of the world.

1022
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And she writes this, this is beautiful.

1023
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:30,160
When I read this story, I saw it in a new light and you and the Currys came to mind.

1024
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Podcasting isn't really the place that most would expect to hear about God or the gospel,

1025
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but by sharing like you are on a weekly basis, your words might be meeting that Samaritan

1026
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person at the well.

1027
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By sharing from your experiences, your pain and what God has done in your life, I believe

1028
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and pray that many more people will be able to say what those in the town did.

1029
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It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard it ourselves.

1030
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What you say and how you encourage matters.

1031
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,840
And I praise God that you guys continue to share weekly.

1032
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,960
God is doing an incredible work in the world right now despite all the bad things that

1033
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are happening.

1034
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,320
I pray he continues to use you all.

1035
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Thank you for being available and surrendered.

1036
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,960
It makes a difference, Shelly.

1037
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,200
What can we say to Shelly to just say thank you?

1038
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Words aren't even enough.

1039
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,200
I know.

1040
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I know.

1041
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That's beautiful.

1042
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,200
That level of encouragement.

1043
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,200
We've had lots of boosts.

1044
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Can we have someone from Japan write us?

1045
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,040
When was that?

1046
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,040
That was a while back.

1047
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:37,720
No, it was first of the week right after we did our podcast last time because we mentioned

1048
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that we would be going to Japan, possibly doing a live with the Currys.

1049
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,320
You're right, I thank you for reminding me.

1050
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,320
She lives in Japan.

1051
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,320
I'm like, oh my gosh.

1052
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,320
How cool is that?

1053
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,320
I do have a beer.

1054
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,720
Hopefully there's other listeners from Japan and we can be able to visit with them in person.

1055
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:56,320
Do a meetup in Japan.

1056
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,320
Yes.

1057
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Yeah, I'm pulling it up right now.

1058
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,280
Sorry, thank you for reminding me of that.

1059
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,520
That was, you know, I've got Japan on my mind because Tina said when she got back we were

1060
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going to start planning it and we need to start planning it now so we can put money

1061
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,280
aside to go.

1062
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,320
So, let me, oh here it is.

1063
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,320
Yep.

1064
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,320
Oh yeah, here it is.

1065
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,960
So, let me get where I can actually, I've got my other iPad up here.

1066
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So here's a couple of boosts.

1067
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First of all, I want to say a big shout out to Adam Curry for giving us a Striper Boost.

1068
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I'm not even going to hit the button, but Adam, thank you.

1069
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,920
He wrote this, listening while in Europe was like being transported back home.

1070
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,520
Welcome back y'all.

1071
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,440
And whatever PJ had done with the sound, don't change a thing.

1072
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,440
Five stars.

1073
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Again, coming from our executive producer.

1074
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That's huge.

1075
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Who is a broadcaster extraordinaire.

1076
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,800
That's huge compliments.

1077
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,000
So I'm hoping we're good to go.

1078
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Thanks my friend.

1079
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And then yeah, her name is Mysterious Ways.

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She says this, news that you may be joining Curry and the Keeper on a Japan adventure

1081
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,360
made me realize that I can't sit on the couch any longer without supporting.

1082
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:04,200
It's not much, but I'm honored to donate my first 1000 sats to this blessing of a

1083
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,200
podcast.

1084
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,560
Where I may lack in donation amount, I'd be happy to make up for it.

1085
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,520
On a no agenda Curry and the Keeper living up in a down world mashup meetup while you

1086
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were here.

1087
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God has made Japan my home for the past 18 years and he constantly amazes me with the

1088
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plans he has.

1089
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Now I said she, it could be a guy, so I don't know.

1090
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Just Mysterious Ways.

1091
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,200
So Mysterious Ways, thank you for the boost, but even more for the encouragement and we

1092
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will take you up on that meetup mashup.

1093
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,680
That would be so much fun.

1094
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,120
Tell us where in Japan.

1095
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,120
Yeah.

1096
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,840
We can start planning.

1097
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,400
Again, thanks for the boost.

1098
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,540
We love all of you.

1099
00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:42,540
Thanks for the encouragement.

1100
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We've got some great letters and what not and we are so thankful.

1101
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So from Pastor Jimmy and Daymanette and Mr. Chevy, we are out of here.

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We love you.

1103
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,520
Have a great week.

1104
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Any last words?

1105
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,800
No, just thank you for listening.

1106
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We so appreciate all of your support.

1107
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Amen.