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This is Jimmy and Annette and we are super excited to be with you.

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Oh I always need to mention Mr. Chevy because he's with us as well.

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He is.

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In his total, I'm looking at, I'm sorry, I'm looking at the look on my dog's face.

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He's looking at me like this is my favorite place ever to be.

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He's totally chilled out.

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He was super excited.

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I set this up like two hours ago.

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And then we stopped because I said, wait, I heard a sermon today that you have to hear

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by Willie Robertson.

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Yeah, Willie Robertson.

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From Duck Dynasty.

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And I said, let's stop and go watch this.

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And you know what?

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I mean, I was just watching you cry just now.

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You were sobbing.

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I was like, okay, when we start this podcast, I need, I need you to be a little up instead

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of down.

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No, I'm totally up because it was so powerful.

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But you were up, but it was just, you know, when you're crying, you just, it takes it

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all out of you and you were bawling your eyes out.

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I turned and looked at you and you were just bawling.

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You said, are you asleep?

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I said, no, I'm crying.

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I saw your eyes shut and I thought he's asleep.

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But now you were, your eyes were shut because you had tears in your eyes and it was moving

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to watch Jimmy.

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It was so moving.

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That's what I love about you.

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I love your sensitivity to the spirit.

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It is, it is, it's, it's very sexy.

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I'm just saying.

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Well, I have to say that.

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Pause, edit.

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I'm just kidding.

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I mean, it's what woman does not love to see a sensitive, caring, loving husband who is

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so sensitive to the spirit that he cries.

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I mean, you cry a lot, not just at hallmark shows.

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I, you know, I know you do that commercials, but you really do cry when you hear the word

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of God spoken and it really resonates with you.

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And that, that's amazing.

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Thank you.

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That's why I married you.

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I mean, wow.

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Thank you for saying that.

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You know, there was a time in my life I couldn't cry.

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I know, I know.

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It was very broken and very hard and angry.

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This young person, new Christian, young baby Christian.

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Remember church, Sunday night church.

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People used to do Sunday nights.

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I like Sunday night, but it really was cool.

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I liked it too, um, cause you just kind of went really casual and there was just a sweet

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spirit is more about the fellowship and connection.

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Missed that.

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Um, so I was there on a Sunday night and the pastor, um, just started to had a microphone

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start passing around and say, Hey, does anybody have a testimony?

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I've been at those services.

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They are people started sharing it as other people were sharing about their faith and

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what God was doing in their life.

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I just begin to weep and I hadn't weep.

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I hadn't cried in two years.

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I had to be like 21 by that point.

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She said they went through a divorce.

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I was shattered by it, but you know, I'm a guy, so I didn't act like I was shattered

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So it's all cool with me, you know, but inside I was devastated and, um, didn't talk about

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Your parents got a divorce when you were in high school, high school.

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I mean, well, it dawned on me.

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I've never, I haven't been tender because I was so angry.

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I had the shield just held.

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It was a shield around my heart and in my mind, even I love God, man, I was growing

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in Christ, love God.

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So these people start sharing their testimonies and these are all old, young.

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I mean, just multi-generational and I'm listening and all of a sudden something happens.

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There's a, something breaks in me because I'm hearing about what God's doing in other

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Now he's moving in mine too big time, but I'm listening to other people and for whatever

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reason it struck a chord in my heart.

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It's like a dam breaking and all this water behind it.

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It's been waiting to be released and I just began to sob.

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It was embarrassing kind of, but, but it was beautiful too.

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I call it, it was brutal, brutal at the same time.

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It was brutal and I just was a cleansing for you.

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She even remembering that's making my heart.

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So, um, I actually stood up and said, can I have the microphone?

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They brought it over to me and I gave a testimony.

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I said, ever since my parents divorced at that point, three, three years ago, I haven't

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cried a tear until tonight hearing all you amazing people share about your walk with

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And even while I was talking, I could barely get the words out and I was just so thankful

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that my heart was tender again.

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I've been married to you for 30 years.

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Very tender, very tender.

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And you know, I never apologize for it.

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I'm not ashamed of it.

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I am grateful because when you've not been able to feel and when you've been numb and

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then God opens your heart again to be tender and trusting and open, there's nothing like

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It's life changing, totally life changing, changing.

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Before we talk about change, that's going to be one of our topics today.

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We, we want to talk about the power of a changed life.

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We use the words transformed.

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That means the form is trans.

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It's changed.

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Of course, trans is a big word right now, but we're talking about the good way.

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We're talking about the transformation of a human heart that gets touched by the spirit

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of God.

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But before we get dive into that, we are going to dive into it.

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We have other things I want to cover first.

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First of all, we want to welcome you to the show.

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We are Jimmy and Annette.

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We are pastors at Bridge Church in Fredericksburg, Texas.

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We've been here about seven and a half years at this point.

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And we want to welcome you to living up in a down world.

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That is our heart.

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That is our passion, not only for us, but for you.

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I mean, we've got, if you've been with us on this journey, we're in, can you believe

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it episode 24?

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That's mind boggling.

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There it is.

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24 episodes.

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And so we've told some of our stories about just what God has done and some of the hard

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stuff, trauma, what we've had to overcome, pain, suffering, all these things.

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And yet we always end it with a, but God Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.

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Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.

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All the King's horses, all the Kings men couldn't put Humpty together again, but God can.

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That's really our heart.

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And that's why we call this living up in a down world, because we want to help you in

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spite of what is going on in this crazy world.

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It does feel like chicken little was right.

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The sky seems to be falling.

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I know, but you know what?

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I'm not fearful.

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No, I'm not either.

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Because I still know who I am and I know God.

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I know even if something did happen, I know where I'm going.

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It's a better place.

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I just refuse to live in fear.

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I just refuse.

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I just can't do it.

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Girl, I'm so with you.

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And when it begins to come in, because you know, the enemy's real.

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I just, I just tear it down with the word of God.

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How does that work?

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Well, I mean, you speak the word of God, but you got to know what the word of God says.

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When you speak the word of God to the enemy and you just, you just speak back what God's

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word says to him and he has to flee.

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And you know, I just, I have to, that's something I've had to work on most of my Christian life.

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I hear you.

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I mean, because of those echoes, those tapes, it's like tapes run in your mind from the

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past until you, you're no good.

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You're a loser.

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This isn't going to work out.

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You're not going to make it.

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And so those tapes and those are lies from the enemy.

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Those are absolute lies.

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And so you got to replace those tapes.

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You got to, you got to overwrite the tapes.

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You're back in the day with cassettes, right?

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You'd have your favorite mix tape, right?

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You're rocking to the, to the seventies, your mix tape.

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You know, you got air supply and little river band and all this stuff going, I know I'm

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I'm thinking high school.

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You got your favorite mix tape and then you accidentally record over it and you're like,

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oh my gosh, I can't believe I lost that.

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That was like my favorite mix tape.

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We got to rewrite and overwrite the tapes that the enemy keeps bringing up.

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Don't you remember what you did?

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Don't you remember what a terrible mistake you made?

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Oh, you're so bad.

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You're not changed.

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You're no different.

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Word said, yes, you have to.

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That's what brings change.

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So we're here to help you do that.

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That's our passion for you.

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God has done so much in our lives, but we're still on the journey.

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I mean, we're, we're kids at this thing, right?

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We're only absolutely young, always in progress, always, always ever learning, ever grown.

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We won't have attained it until we're with Jesus.

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It's right.

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It just, we won't, but we, but we're here and we have an assignment here.

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And I, that's brings me to exactly where I want to talk to our listeners about because

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our assignment in doing a podcast, this isn't work for us by the way it's work.

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But if it's not, if it's something fulfilling and you love it and you can't wait to do it,

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then it's not work.

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And we love this because we know that man, because of just God's providence and, and

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podcasting being an option and opportunity.

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Thank you, Adam Curry and your friend that developed this, what 19 years ago, because

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this platform has been created, I believe by God's heart.

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It's an avenue to get God's word out to the world.

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And that's our heart.

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I looked at a, on rss.com, it's our hub, you know, where everything goes through.

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They have an analytics page and it shows that our podcast is going all over the world.

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And so for those of you that are listening, wherever you are, I'm not talking about America,

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I'm talking about the world.

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We want you to know something.

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God loves you.

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He has an amazing plan for your life.

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We want to encourage you in that and help you live up in a down world.

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I do love the newsletter that you got out yesterday because I saw that you took a picture

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of our little studio here with the cross in the background and you had it highlighted.

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That was beautiful because you really set it up that this is the whole point of the

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This is our why.

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This is not just about you and I, although I mean, God's using us and our stories, I

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believe to help people, but all our whole point is to point people to Jesus.

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If we don't, then we've, then we're not, we're not fulfilling the purpose.

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I believe that God has for us is about bringing a message to people of hope, a message of

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life.

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And you do it every Sunday.

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I don't have that opportunity like you do.

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So this is my opportunity to do what I believe God's called me to do.

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I love it girl and my goal is to tee up the ball, hand you the driver swing for it.

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Just, just give it a, just rip grip it and rip it girl.

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If you, if you remember for years, I ran a women's ministry for years and years and years,

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and I've just not had that opportunity here, even though it's our church, it's just, um,

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the opportunity hasn't presented itself for me to do that.

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And so it's really good for me now looking back, I didn't want to do this because I,

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I didn't know the purpose of this when we first began and God began to just infuse purpose

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into this way.

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I see it is you have a voice and you have something to say and God has provided this

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platform for me to hopefully set you up.

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I'm just turning knobs and sliding stuff and stuff like this.

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Oh wow.

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I'm applauding for you.

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Oh, is that what you're doing?

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Oh, I appreciate it.

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Actually, this is more about, yeah, that's it.

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That's it.

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That's my heart for you.

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But really it is.

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I so want you to have this platform.

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And so anyway, let's dive into what we're going to be talking about today.

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Again, thank you for listening.

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Thank you for supporting.

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We'll talk, we'll get some shout outs here at the end, but, uh, I gotta talk about one

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thing though that was really special for me this last week.

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It's going to sound weird.

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And uh, so Adam and I, Adam Curry, who's become just one of my truly dearest friends on the

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planet.

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He's probably one of the best friends you've ever had since, since I've known anybody else.

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Cause I've had some amazing people in my life.

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God's been so gracious, but there's something, something amazing.

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It's happening here and I don't want to get all weird about it, but that sounds really

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rude when it's talkless away, but we had a bro date.

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I know a bro date last week.

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We gave Tina and I a chance to have retail therapy.

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Oh my gosh, this is going to get expensive.

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I know that, but I gotta tell you, we went out and we just made, we went to this great

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restaurant here in town.

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We live in Fredericksburg, Texas, which is like amazing place to live.

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We love living here.

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And so we went out to this great steak house.

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It's relatively new.

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I think the second time I've been there and we just had an evening of conversation and

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great food and just this exchange of life between healthy men, who are confident in

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who they are, who are growing in their faith, growing in their friendship and this exchange

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across the table.

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And I gotta say, I noticed, I don't know if Adam noticed this or not, there were people

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all around us listening.

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They were totally eavesdropping.

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Oh, I love that.

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We were talking about God.

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We were talking about world events.

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We were talking about technology.

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We were talking about podcasting.

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We were talking about all these amazing things.

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And I noticed, and he may or may not have, but I noticed people were listening.

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Yeah.

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Well, there's also a light that shines through both of you because you have Jesus in you.

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So when you're, wherever you are, people are going to be drawn to that light.

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So I believe exactly what you said, that people were, they wanted to listen to you because

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you have something to say and maybe they weren't sitting at your table, but I believe God was

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in that conversation, in that restaurant where they could hear what you were saying.

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I believe that.

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No doubt.

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Just by two guys going to a restaurant is a witness to the world.

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We're not weird.

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We're not gay.

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I mean, we're just dudes.

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We're bros, brothers.

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And we're doing life together and we're iron sharpening iron and we're growing.

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And I think it's the coolest thing.

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And so we're like, dude, this has got to be a regular thing.

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Although we've got to put a cap on the girl's spoon, but it's going to be a regular thing.

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It's okay.

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It wasn't that bad.

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I know.

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And while me and Adam are doing a bro date, what were you and Tina?

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Well, we were just girl shopping, you know, lock and Tara over in San Antonio.

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Yes.

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And it was good.

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I mean, I always enjoy spending time with her because like I said, iron sharpens iron

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and I'm doing a Bible study with her every week.

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That's cool.

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Call the God I never knew, which is Holy spirit.

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Pastor Robert Morris.

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Right.

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So we have, we just have, you know, we've, we've only known each other less than a year.

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So we're both in our, you know, sixties, which I hate saying.

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So we have a lot of catching out to do.

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I know.

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I need to embrace this.

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I know.

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So we have a lot of catching up to do.

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And so it's amazing.

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Our conversations have been so amazing because we're seeing, they're seeing how God was in

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their relationship from the beginning.

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They met eight years ago.

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They've been married four.

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But how God instigated all these things to happen to get them to where they are today.

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You have a great story.

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What a great story.

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And so your story, which was great because this weekend when we had Pastor Brian, a former

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youth pastor and his wife from Nashville here, we had huge conversations this weekend with

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them.

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And I loved hearing Adam's story and Tina's story about how they came to know Christ.

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It's all about the shoes.

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It started with the shoes, Tina's shoes.

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She rocks some amazing shoes.

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Oh my God.

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There's your trick.

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But you know, but the story, not their story of how they met, but the story of how they,

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how they came to terms with they need Jesus.

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And to hear that story again, which is why I love when we introduce them to other people,

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because they get to share that over and over and over.

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I will never get tired of hearing their journey of faith.

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I will never either.

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It's beautiful.

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There's something compelling and powerful about a testimony of people who have come

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from a place of just not, not being against God at all, just not knowing Him and getting

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to know Him.

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But what's beautiful about their journey is they decided to do it together.

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Yes.

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That's powerful.

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Her and I were talking about that on our walk today about how powerful.

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Naomi had said the same thing to her.

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And when she was visiting with her yesterday at church, she said, most couples don't come

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to that realization together.

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And I know that from experience from church.

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Typically it's the female and the male is follows along or does eight feet behind.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Their story is so powerful because they were together on this.

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And you know, to me and Tina and I were talking about this too.

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The older you get, the more set in your ways and where you don't think you need a savior.

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When you're young, you know, you hear music and you get kind of low.

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It's a, it's a, it can be a draw to you and you get, you hear a sermon and you cry.

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But when you're older, it's, it's harder for older people to come to know Christ.

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They're sad.

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They're sad.

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They're sad in their ways.

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They've lost their dreams.

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They're disappointed and disappointment, disillusionment to a degree where they blame,

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they could, right.

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Right.

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A little harder.

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They don't have that.

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Correct.

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It's beautiful.

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And I'm never going to get tired of it.

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Exactly.

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There, if you think about it, Jimmy, you know, what we talked about that we're going to talk

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about a little bit is a, as a changed life.

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Yeah.

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They're the epitome of a changed life, not a life that changed, right.

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But a changed life.

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Cause there are great people before Christ entered in.

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And yet when the Holy spirit came and they accepted Christ, there was just their trajectory

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accelerated exponentially.

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And so to watch that and I feel like we've got a 50 yard seat at the game.

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Yes.

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We're 50 yard line.

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I don't know what that means.

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Cause I don't watch football.

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That's when you're the best seat in the house.

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I know I'm kidding.

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But getting to watch that and, and my heart and I know yours is, is to this fire that's

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burning in them is to keep pouring.

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We're the cheerleaders on the sideline.

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Totally.

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If you want to use football.

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Oh wait, no, that's, that's gay.

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Okay.

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Well, well I'm the cheerleader on the sideline.

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I think of Will Farrell and Sarah.

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Oh my gosh.

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Of course you would.

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Of course.

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I'm not a cheerleader.

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I'm coach.

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Coach.

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You're the coach on the sideline and I'm the cheerleader because I'm, I'm just watching

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their story play out.

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We get the privilege of watching the story play out every day.

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And then to, okay, cheer them on.

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Right.

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Yes.

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But also to coach and to say, man, you're doing so good and so proud of you.

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Keep doing it.

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Keep doing it.

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Absolutely.

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Keep running through the tape.

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Keep those legs.

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Tell us what books you're interested in reading because some people might send them a book

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that might not be the, they mean well, beautiful people supporting them more new age crew,

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you know, or something.

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So we were, that's how we coach them.

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So the heart of what we're talking about is not just about Adam and Tina, but it's the

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power of a change in life.

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So speaking of cool people and change lives, Renee, Dan and Renee Seacrest, we went out

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with them.

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Oh my gosh.

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Just the coolest people.

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Dan is, uh, uh, he worked for a Boston market for years.

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He was one of their, one of their top guys in Boston markets.

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I used to love that place by the way that we loved it when we were in California.

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We ate there all the time.

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You don't hear about it.

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Yeah, not so much, but he's moved on and he's doing a lot of other things.

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Semi retired doing consulting, just the coolest couple who loved Jesus passionately, who,

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who were, who love us, which was so evident.

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I love our relationship with him.

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He came and talked to me at church and just thanked me and said, we had such a wonderful

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time with you guys.

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We went out to dinner in Bernie, Texas, by the way, it's not Bernie as in B E R it's

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a German name.

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B O E R N E I Bernie, just any, any, you're right.

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German.

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And, uh, we had this amazing steakhouse with them.

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But again, it was another evening of iron sharpening iron, building one another up,

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sharing our stories, sharing our lives of transformation.

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By the way, he's a killer musician as well.

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He's on our worship team, great bass player, great keyboardist, but also just a great man

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of God.

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I'm watching God grow him exponentially.

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Yes.

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That's it.

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That's that was wonderful time.

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Wonderful, wonderful time.

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Brought them back to the house, just rocked some amazing desserts from high street cafe

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out of comfort, Texas.

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Okay.

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I'm kind of deserted out.

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That sounds kind of crazy.

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But wow, we've had all these guests we've had all week.

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It's been one dessert after another.

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So as we enter into our sabbatical, we probably need to enter into a fast, you know what?

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Bad word.

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I know, but I am considering that I am so much more spiritual than I know.

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I know.

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But I think it might be good for us.

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But anyway, I just want to give a shout out to Dan and Renee because they are just precious

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people.

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They listened to our podcast.

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Yeah.

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She's listened to every one of them.

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Oh my gosh.

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Said I just started listening.

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I love these guys.

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And, uh, so yeah, they're quality quality.

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You're wonderful.

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Great people.

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Yeah.

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So thanks for an amazing, amazing evening.

499
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720
And let's talk a little bit about Brian and Naomi Mandel.

500
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,680
I mean, you talk about some cool people.

501
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,680
Yes.

502
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,200
He was our, he was our youth pastor for years in Abilene.

503
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,360
Then when we moved to Nashville, we brought him there and they've just, um, so he's been,

504
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:23,640
so he was a youth pastor for eight years and then this weird fortuitous situation came

505
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,840
along with what's called the escape games.

506
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,560
I've probably heard of there's 35 locations.

507
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,880
They're in very prime, prime property locations all over America.

508
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,040
And he has been the one of the developers of that company.

509
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,200
He's a senior.

510
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,200
Very well.

511
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,960
And, uh, and God's doing some cool stuff.

512
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,960
These guys, they're on fire for Jesus.

513
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,960
They are.

514
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,960
Goodness.

515
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200
Boy, this weekend, Naomi is a rock star.

516
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,520
She just, she, she, it was as if she was in our living room and she had a pulpit in front

517
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,400
of her and she was just preaching to Tina and Adam and they were just lapping it up.

518
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,200
You know what I love about life or friends?

519
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,200
I call them lifers.

520
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,320
There's a few people that fit in that category lifers, lifers are the kind of people that

521
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,200
you might not see them for a few years or talk to them, but every once in a while, but

522
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,840
when you're together, it's like literally right where you left off.

523
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,280
Those are lifers and Brian and Naomi are lifers.

524
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,280
Yes.

525
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,680
It was really cool having them.

526
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,240
We had them Friday noon through last night.

527
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,240
Yeah, exactly.

528
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,760
I mean, and yet I never, man, it was so good.

529
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,400
We talked the whole time about Jesus, what God's up to in the kingdom, right?

530
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,400
Yes.

531
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,400
It was absolutely.

532
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,800
We had Adam and Tina over, so they got to meet them and get some hang time with them.

533
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:46,680
We had our kids over, our daughter, Faith and her new husband, Brandon, so proud of them.

534
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,280
And, and we just had these amazing God conversations.

535
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:57,120
I feel so full because all we've done is had God conversation after God conversation after

536
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,800
God conversation.

537
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,600
And it just, it is, I feel like this is going to be really a bad thing, except I feel like

538
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,160
a tick who is full.

539
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,640
I know when I'm going to pop.

540
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,640
I know.

541
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,640
Didn't see that coming.

542
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,640
I know.

543
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,640
I've heard that somewhere.

544
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,680
You've probably said it in a sermon in the past.

545
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,680
Oh, I'm sure I have.

546
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,360
But I just feel so full of the word and just the love of God.

547
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,600
Just being around people.

548
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,960
I never get tired.

549
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,640
This is how you, this speaking of change lives, this is how you know a life is transformed

550
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,560
is you never get tired of talking about the things of God.

551
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840
And I never tire of it.

552
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,280
Let's have a conversation.

553
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,160
Let's talk about what God's up to.

554
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,160
Amen.

555
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,160
Yes.

556
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,160
Yes.

557
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,160
Hey man, so I got preaching.

558
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,160
You did.

559
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,160
Well, totally not in church.

560
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,160
We're in your, totally.

561
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,720
We're in your little office studio.

562
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,020
So tell us, okay.

563
00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:50,880
So you listen to, we went to this on Mondays.

564
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,960
We practice Sabbath.

565
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,300
We don't take a Sabbath.

566
00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:56,220
We receive a Sabbath from the Lord.

567
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:57,680
It's a gift.

568
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,680
And so today, and we always, one of our things we like to do after a really long weekend,

569
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,600
preaching, teaching, I played on the worship team, two services, two services, and then

570
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,260
we hosted all weekend.

571
00:26:10,260 --> 00:26:11,380
So we were a little tired.

572
00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:12,840
We woke up this morning, right?

573
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Let's be honest.

574
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,000
So you decided to go for a four mile walk through the hills.

575
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240
You and Tina are machines and you are not human.

576
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,880
So anyway, I stayed in my office and played my guitar for a solid hour worship God on

577
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,880
my guitar.

578
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,880
I liked your guitar.

579
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280
I was rocking the strap this morning.

580
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,800
So then we left and went straight to the gym.

581
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,440
Straight to the gym for your second workout.

582
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,440
You're a machine.

583
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,820
And I love to lift weights.

584
00:26:39,820 --> 00:26:42,680
And so that's another one of my favorite things to do.

585
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,600
And so we've been doing this, we met in a gym and doing this for 30.

586
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,360
I listened to about 30 minutes of no agenda.

587
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,760
Adam Curry's amazing podcast and got it.

588
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,000
May have super stoked.

589
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000
So I can't wait to jump in.

590
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,120
I got to listen to all over it, but I'm keyed up about it.

591
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:05,160
So, and then as we're, as we're starting to hit home, I said, what did you listen to?

592
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:11,000
And you said, I listened to Willie Robertson and he was, I've never heard him.

593
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,240
I knew he was a Christian.

594
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,440
I know the whole little snippet.

595
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:20,200
I know about Sadie, his daughter and all that, but I've never heard him personally preach

596
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,160
and it was phenomenal.

597
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,000
And I said, let's, before we do a podcast, we got to go just watch it.

598
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,400
Cause I listen to it online.

599
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,320
We sat down, I put my headphones on.

600
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680
You said, wait a minute, no, we got to go.

601
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,960
We need to go listen to this.

602
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,480
And I was like, ah, I'm ready to record.

603
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,640
And then we go in there and I cried through the whole thing.

604
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,160
And I said, I knew you need to listen to this because it was, he, he, he, it was about a

605
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:50,800
life change versus a, um, wait, hold on.

606
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,560
Say help me say it.

607
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,840
A, a life change versus a change of life.

608
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,840
Okay.

609
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Okay.

610
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:06,080
And so do we have just a life change and we don't have the transformation or are we going

611
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,440
to live a changed life?

612
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,440
That continues.

613
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:16,400
And so that just, it just, again, another thing that just hit me hard.

614
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:23,040
It was like, I want to be known as the one who lives a life that's changed.

615
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,680
I gotta say something.

616
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,200
When you get spiritual, I know what it does to you.

617
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,880
I mean, we're doing a podcast, so be careful what you say.

618
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,520
But I'm just, I just look at you and I, this is the girl I'm married.

619
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,240
This is the girl that I saw, you know, when we first got together and I was like, she's

620
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,600
so hungry for God.

621
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:48,360
So when I hear you talk about the things of God and I just, I honestly, I, I wish and

622
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:54,720
pray that people could have the kind of relationship we have where when we both start talking about

623
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200
the Lord, there's something that elevates.

624
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,200
Yes.

625
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,440
So I had to pause, had to press pause on you.

626
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,880
Sorry to distract, but I'm just like, wow.

627
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520
So why did it make you cry?

628
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,760
Cause you were crying so much and, and I, and we started to talk about it and I said,

629
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,680
no, let's go straight in there and record.

630
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,120
I don't want to talk.

631
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,120
You becoming a podcaster.

632
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,120
Well, I am.

633
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,680
I've learned from the best Tina and Adam, this is what they say.

634
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,120
So tell me what was it that made you cry?

635
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,840
I think part of it is that, uh, when really was talking and he's talking at gateway church,

636
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,840
right?

637
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:40,880
The heart of very affluent Dallas Fort worth, no knock on that just is what it is.

638
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880
Right?

639
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,760
I mean, he's in the heart of that and here he is in a headband.

640
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,640
His hair is all jacked up.

641
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,600
He's wearing the old like Levi's five Oh one jeans and tennis shoes that are no name, no

642
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,100
brand.

643
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,100
He's just himself.

644
00:29:54,100 --> 00:30:01,400
And yet he is talking about being consumed with the love of God for people.

645
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,400
Yes.

646
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,840
And he's telling story after story of just these people who don't know who he is.

647
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,080
Jordan, Peterson met him and said, Oh, what are you doing at the conference?

648
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440
He said, I'm actually one of the keynote speakers yet.

649
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Really?

650
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,200
You know, like looking him up and down, looking him up and down, like you're a speaker, you

651
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,200
know?

652
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:27,200
So I love the fact that this, this family, the Robertson family have received the mantle

653
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,720
that God gave to them in the call to evangelize, to share their faith, to be bold in their

654
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,720
faith.

655
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,720
Absolutely.

656
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,720
We all know it's duck dynasty, right?

657
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,720
A lot of drama.

658
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,720
It's funny.

659
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,840
It's a great hilarious show and they're rough around the edges and yet there's this life

660
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,600
that emanates out of them.

661
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,600
Exactly.

662
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,600
It's light.

663
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,020
And so as I was listening to him tell stories about sharing his faith with people and baptizing

664
00:30:54,020 --> 00:31:00,880
a guy in a cow pond and a stock tank, stock tanks, I didn't know what a cow pond was until

665
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520
he described it as a tank.

666
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,260
That's a manmade little tiny lake or pond and it's for the cattle.

667
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:08,260
It's literally ranch.

668
00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:10,320
That's where they go.

669
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,320
They poop.

670
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,320
They drink water.

671
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,920
I mean, it's, it's the deer come, the cows come, whatever else comes.

672
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,280
So, so I get that because I grew up in West Texas.

673
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
So he baptized someone.

674
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,760
And that guy, it was really shallow and you have to really, really want to do that.

675
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,760
I got a bat.

676
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,760
I got to get you all wet.

677
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680
So 18 degrees outside, 18 degrees outside there on a deer hunt.

678
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,960
This guy gets born again, gives his heart to Christ and says, man, I want to be baptized

679
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,960
right now.

680
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,960
And Willie's like, for real?

681
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,800
Like right now he's a, yeah, he's it's 18 degrees.

682
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,800
This could kill you.

683
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,840
Cause yeah, I know the old man has today.

684
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,560
No, it can literally kill you.

685
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,960
It's hilarious.

686
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,920
But I can totally picture that because growing up where I grew up, we had stock takes that

687
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,160
we had one on our property.

688
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,200
We, we had cows and all that stuff.

689
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,760
And so I know what a stock tank is.

690
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,840
I know what's inside of it.

691
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,840
It's gross.

692
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,320
I've never even been in the presence of a cow.

693
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Yeah.

694
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,320
You don't swim in a stock tank.

695
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,320
I grew up in the city.

696
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320
I don't, I'm not a, yeah.

697
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,640
So this guy wants to be baptized.

698
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,480
He's like, man, I'm ready to be baptized.

699
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,400
I want to, I want to follow Jesus.

700
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,440
The beauty of that struck me because I know what's in the stock, gross.

701
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,440
That's why you're crying.

702
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,440
No, part of it.

703
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,880
I mean, just part of the fact that that guy didn't care.

704
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,760
He just wanted Jesus and he wanted to follow the Jesus and believers baptism.

705
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,360
He said, I don't care if it's in a church.

706
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:37,640
I don't care if it's in a warm hot tub and he saw it and he said, let's just do it right

707
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,640
now.

708
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Right here.

709
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,640
I mean, love that.

710
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,640
That is powerful.

711
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,640
It's the heart.

712
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,640
It's the real deal.

713
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,560
And you're like, well, you know, it's dude in a church where it's really the warm water

714
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,520
and Adam Curry, we have neon lights and fog machines.

715
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,760
I'm just kidding.

716
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,440
So you know, but it's all the convenience is comfort and somebody's waiting with the

717
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,440
towel.

718
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,160
No, this is 18 degrees on a deer hunt.

719
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,560
That was, he says, I want to be baptized right now.

720
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,480
The purity of that cameraman who was with him, he said, of course the cameraman follows

721
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,480
Willie Roberts all the time.

722
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,480
Right.

723
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,080
And he said, well, I'm not going to do it there, but can we go back to the person's

724
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,880
house and let's do it in the bath.

725
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Did it in a bathtub with all the guys.

726
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,880
I just think so.

727
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:30,600
All these dudes watching him in a bathtub in a bath in a bathtub, get baptized.

728
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,880
How beautiful is that?

729
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,880
Absolutely.

730
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,080
You know, all that really struck me, but it also conjured up some, some memories that

731
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,080
I have.

732
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:45,320
So I was youth pastor for many years and because I wasn't raised in church, I didn't become

733
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,880
a Christian until I was 18, almost right.

734
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,760
19 really, really, really more into 19.

735
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040
And so not going to youth camp, not being raised in a church.

736
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,520
I mean, I was really raw and rough around the edges.

737
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,680
I mean, all I ever wanted to do is play, play guitar in a band and be on a stage.

738
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,680
I mean, rock and roll.

739
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,240
I mean, I grew up in classic rock era and now we call it classic rock.

740
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,760
Wasn't in.

741
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,760
So that's all I wanted.

742
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520
And I just didn't have a lot of ambition about life.

743
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,840
And then God grips my heart.

744
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,800
And suddenly, not suddenly, but over a period of time, I find myself being at a Bible school,

745
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,160
learning about ministry.

746
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:30,460
And then now I get invited to be a youth minister at a church and I'm in this beautiful, wonderful

747
00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:36,460
church and Comanche, Texas, of all places, central Texas, little bitty town, central

748
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:37,460
Texas.

749
00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:40,840
And I loved getting to be a part of that church.

750
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,400
And I was there for four years and I was the youth minister.

751
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,360
And then I became the associate pastor later with Pastor Don Longoria, wonderful man of

752
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,780
God.

753
00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:54,840
Still consider him a pastor and a mentor in my life from a distance.

754
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,520
So here I was as a youth pastor, but I was still rough, long hair, plain and...

755
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,520
You're still rough right now.

756
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,520
I know.

757
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,520
I'm playing in a Christian rock band.

758
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,680
We had this great band.

759
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,320
We did all these youth events.

760
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,200
And so naturally, guess what kind of young people, kids in high school were attracted

761
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,840
to me because I'm a guitar, I'm a lead guitar player.

762
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,080
I've still got long hair.

763
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,720
I still wear rock and roll t-shirts.

764
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,160
And here I am in a Baptist church.

765
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,520
Not a fit, but I was a misfit if there ever was one.

766
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,580
But here I was.

767
00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:28,160
And so we did these big youth events.

768
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160
We'd fight the whole community out.

769
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,440
We'd see a lot of kids come out for what we call fifth quarter rallies.

770
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,920
Our band would rock and jam out in the parking lot with big lights.

771
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,520
And it was a magical time, honestly, in youth ministry.

772
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:50,120
And what happened was a bunch of skaters and kids that were jamming on Metallico, the black

773
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,360
album, they were all into it.

774
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040
They were coming to our meetings because they loved the music and then they knew I was rough

775
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,320
around the edges.

776
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,160
We started drawing all these young people that were really rough around the edges.

777
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,200
Of course, our church was like, oh my gosh, these are the wrong kind of kids.

778
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,880
I'm like, no, this is who Jesus is going after.

779
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,280
I still don't understand that.

780
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Why would a church want to turn away people that don't look like them?

781
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,960
In their defense, they just didn't.

782
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,360
Honestly, they didn't know any better.

783
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,360
I know, I just don't get that.

784
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,400
I have great compassion for that and great grace for that.

785
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,840
So it was shocking.

786
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,320
But God was drawing these rough kids, especially the skater crowd.

787
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,520
Man, I love the skater guys.

788
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,520
They were raw.

789
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,520
They were honest.

790
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,520
They were intellectual.

791
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,520
They were sharp.

792
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,560
And I had these great conversations just sitting on the tailgate of a pickup out in the parking

793
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880
lot at night with these guys.

794
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:46,960
And I remember someone let me know, they came by the church and they said, look, this group

795
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,600
of guys, and these are guys that had given their hearts to Christ.

796
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,320
Man, I was helping them, was discipling them.

797
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:59,480
He said, they're over in another town, it's like 20, 30 minutes away, and they're drunk.

798
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,400
They're just smashed to other minds.

799
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400
And it just got all over me.

800
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,760
I jumped in my 72 Volkswagen Bug.

801
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,760
I know.

802
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,040
Had a great cassette player though.

803
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,040
Oh my gosh.

804
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,400
And I drove over to this other town and I found them.

805
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,200
I hunted them.

806
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,800
I prayed the whole way.

807
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Lord God, these guys just gave their lives to Jesus.

808
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,320
And here they are drinking and partying.

809
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,860
And I was that kid too.

810
00:37:26,860 --> 00:37:28,920
So I knew exactly what was going on.

811
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,600
I said, God, somehow help me find them.

812
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,960
And I felt like the Lord led me to drive to the downtown.

813
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,560
There's a drag, you know, every town in Texas has a drag.

814
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,360
I went down on the drag.

815
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Sure enough, I found them.

816
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,720
I pull up behind them.

817
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:50,120
I'm flashing my lights in my Volkswagen and we pull over in a parking lot and I just,

818
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,360
they're all, they're smashed.

819
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,360
And I get it.

820
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,600
I was that kid.

821
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,880
So we get out and I just said, man, guys, I'm not here to berate you.

822
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,320
I'm not here to put you down.

823
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,240
I'm not here to call you out.

824
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,960
I'm here to call you up.

825
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:11,960
And I'm here to tell you, I love you so much that I drove from Comanche to get over here

826
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,640
to just tell you, I love you.

827
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,640
But more importantly, God loves you.

828
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,680
And I just, I broke in front of these guys.

829
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,400
I just started to cry and it wasn't a weird cry.

830
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,240
It was just a, it was pure and it was passionate.

831
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,760
It was from the heart.

832
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,200
And I said, watch these guys break right in front of me.

833
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,680
All three of them, there's three of them.

834
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,640
And man, they were just like repentant and sorry and apologize.

835
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,800
We all drove back to Comanche in a little, little train.

836
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,120
I mean, they were in a car and I was in the car and I said, let's just go home.

837
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,760
And I went home that night and you know what?

838
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,720
Those guys became faithful in our youth group and some of them did, some of them didn't,

839
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:52,180
some of them went on.

840
00:38:52,180 --> 00:39:00,400
And yet I just will never forget the overwhelming feeling that no matter what I've got to drive,

841
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,120
I'll go wherever I need to go to reach these young people.

842
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,120
I'll never forget it because it imprinted my heart and gave me such a love for these

843
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,120
young people.

844
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,920
It imprinted a seed and who knows what who's watered that seed over time.

845
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,160
I will say this crazy enough on social media, every once in a while I hear from one of them.

846
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,160
Really?

847
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,160
It's really cool.

848
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,160
That's awesome.

849
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,200
God's worked and God's done a work in that, in that one young man's life.

850
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,200
And they'll never forget you.

851
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:37,280
I'll never forget the, the Stoney school teachers that spent multiple hours with me every week

852
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:43,120
discipling me, teaching me from the age of 10 till I was about 13 in a church.

853
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,920
I'll never forget them.

854
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:52,200
So you have to ask the question, what motivates a person to give away an evening, a day, an

855
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:58,760
afternoon to sit with another person, to simply say, I'm not here for me.

856
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,160
I'm here for you.

857
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,240
And I'm here because God put this on my heart to be with you.

858
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,880
It's understanding a calling that we all have.

859
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,040
That's a change to life.

860
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,400
That's a change to life.

861
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,400
It sure is.

862
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,400
I know I've noticed a crop in doing this 38 years.

863
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:23,440
I'm not exactly a newbie and I've seen so many people get excited about God, get excited

864
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,240
about Jesus, step over the line, get baptized.

865
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,280
Oh my gosh.

866
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,000
Their front row, then six months later, eighth row, then their 20th row, and then they're

867
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000
out.

868
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
They're out the door.

869
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000
It's like, what is it?

870
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:45,520
Life happens, but they don't have the foundation to withstand when the tornado comes or the

871
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,520
wind blows.

872
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600
I think there's a couple of things going on.

873
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,040
It's not even just that.

874
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Cause a lot of people blame the church.

875
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,960
Well, the church didn't disciple them.

876
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,640
The church didn't take care of them.

877
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,640
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

878
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,960
Wait a minute.

879
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:06,440
When I was a young new Christian, I was so self motivated because I knew God saved me.

880
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,000
You were really saved.

881
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000
It makes you wonder if some were not saved.

882
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,280
That's what I wonder about.

883
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,920
I'm just throwing that out there for thought.

884
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:23,380
I think there are a lot of people who are, what's the right word?

885
00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:28,120
They're in a dangerous place because they think they are and they may not be.

886
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,920
Jesus said that you must be born again.

887
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,640
You must be born from above.

888
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,600
And then he said this, you must be born of the spirit.

889
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,520
This is all John chapter three.

890
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
You must be born of the spirit.

891
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,600
I think there are a lot of people who they get an adrenaline pump.

892
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,560
They get a dopamine dump and they're like, I feel so good.

893
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,480
And then when the good wears off, the adrenaline wears off, the dopamine wears off, the pump

894
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,480
wears off.

895
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,320
Then it's like, wait a minute, this is going to cost me something.

896
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,600
Wait, I got to give up something.

897
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,720
I got to lay my life down for this.

898
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:03,720
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

899
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,080
That's not what I signed up for.

900
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,080
And they bail.

901
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,720
And I'm not mad at those people.

902
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:14,260
I have a massive compassion heart because I'm like, oh, you are so close to the kingdom

903
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:16,040
of God.

904
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:21,720
Because there is a dying to self that has to happen, a giving up of your life before

905
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:27,080
transformation comes, before change, a changed life.

906
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,840
So just from your perspective, Annette, because we come from different backgrounds, similar

907
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,840
but different.

908
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:40,000
We come from the same area, West Texas, but we had vastly different backgrounds and stories.

909
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,400
What does it mean for you?

910
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,160
What does a changed life really mean?

911
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,160
A changed life.

912
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,040
See, when I get up in the morning, the first thing I think about is the Holy Spirit.

913
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,920
So I say, good morning, Holy Spirit.

914
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,200
I want to get in a devotion first thing.

915
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,040
Sometimes I'll get sidetracked because I'm not perfect.

916
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,700
I'm one of those not perfect people, no perfect people allowed kind of in our church.

917
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:09,920
And I'll go, you know, I'll look at an email or something and I have to just sit there

918
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,860
and go, wait a minute, I need to start my day with Christ.

919
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:16,100
And so I do my little devotion.

920
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:21,160
The thing is for me is he's with me all day long.

921
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,240
You know, we have this dialogue that goes on.

922
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,320
You know, we talk to ourself all the time.

923
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,320
And instead of me just talking to myself, I turn that dialogue into talking and conversing

924
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,920
with God because we all do that, right?

925
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,880
We all talk to ourselves.

926
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,880
It's an inner monologue.

927
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,400
It's an inner monologue.

928
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,440
And so now I have this, and I call it dialogue because I'm listening to what he's saying.

929
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,060
So it's not just a monologue to, you know, I'm not just the only, I'm just not just talking

930
00:43:51,060 --> 00:43:52,060
to God.

931
00:43:52,060 --> 00:43:53,060
I'm listening.

932
00:43:53,060 --> 00:44:00,400
And I go through my life really seeking him daily.

933
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,840
And as a Christian, that's what it's all about is to seek him.

934
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,480
He gives us an assignment and it's the person you walk with.

935
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,860
It's the person you live with.

936
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:12,960
It's the person you work with.

937
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,680
It's the person you play with.

938
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:21,240
You know, we have an assignment to be the light so that we're drawn, people are drawn

939
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:22,240
to us.

940
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:26,520
We don't have to go up and ask every single person if they know Christ.

941
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:32,640
We should be, people, we should be so compelling that people want to know what is it that makes

942
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,640
you smile?

943
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,380
What is it that makes you have a good day?

944
00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:36,380
What is it?

945
00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:37,380
You know what I'm saying?

946
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:38,380
Absolutely.

947
00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:39,380
And I love that.

948
00:44:39,380 --> 00:44:40,380
It's wonderful.

949
00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:43,640
There's a scripture that I learned as a young Christian, a new Christian, actually I was

950
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,560
shared the youth minister, Ricky Ketron back in the day said, man, you need to learn this

951
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,560
verse.

952
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,380
And so I looked it up and he shared it with me and I remember laying on my bed in a duplex

953
00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:58,680
in the, in the total tech ghetto of Lubbock, Texas.

954
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,520
It called it the tech ghetto.

955
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,800
Now it's like really nice, but back then it was a ghetto and I'm laying on my bed.

956
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,920
I'm reading this verse out of my first real Bible and it stuck with me and it's it's second

957
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Corinthians five 17.

958
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,560
Oh yes.

959
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,560
I love it.

960
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,840
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.

961
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,720
All things have passed away.

962
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:25,160
Behold all things are new, have become new.

963
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,160
Isn't that powerful?

964
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,160
Yes.

965
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,160
A new creation.

966
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,320
It's an, it's what one person termed a new creation reality.

967
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,840
When I love this goes along with what we talked about last week, which in Jude one, one, we

968
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:44,580
are called that we are loved and we are kept and you literally preached on that this Sunday

969
00:45:44,580 --> 00:45:47,240
because we thought about it every day.

970
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:50,960
You were just like, not, not preach on what I was going to.

971
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,960
This is it.

972
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,560
I have to, I even posted about it.

973
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,720
I did a devotional today, which is on our website, living up and down world.com shameless

974
00:45:58,720 --> 00:45:59,720
plug.

975
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:00,720
Yeah, go there.

976
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:06,440
I have devotional that I brought them every day or on there, but I could not not talk

977
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,440
about that.

978
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,440
Right.

979
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:15,320
It is so imprinted me one of the most powerful scriptures I've read and I can't even tell

980
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,400
you how long it, it, it just, it, it just rings so loud in me.

981
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,320
Every day you shared it with a girl.

982
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,320
You are the catalyst.

983
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,440
Oh, I just remember you're the talent.

984
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,440
I'm just the producer.

985
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,540
No, that's a, that's a Tina Adam.

986
00:46:30,540 --> 00:46:34,760
But it's still the same and I'm tweaking and pushing sliders here and doing stuff, you

987
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,760
know, stuff like that.

988
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:43,160
But, um, you, you shared that with me again after a workout on a Monday, wasn't it?

989
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,800
That's why I like to have a cast after a Monday because I'm rocking out during a workout and

990
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,600
then here you are listening to the word of God.

991
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,800
Maybe I'm a little more spiritual than you.

992
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,800
Oh no, I'm just kidding.

993
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,800
Wow.

994
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,800
Wow.

995
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,800
Okay.

996
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,800
You set off.

997
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:05,480
Well, I just, that's, uh, uh, sometimes I listen to music, but these days, I'm in a

998
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,480
season.

999
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,600
I just have to hear it's the only thing that helps me get up in a down world.

1000
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,600
I hear you.

1001
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,280
But what I love is that you get in the word of God and then you like filter it to me.

1002
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,280
I get the Cliffs notes.

1003
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,000
I tell you all about it in the car.

1004
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,520
And then we watch it and you know, so, and it's, it can be random.

1005
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,000
Sometimes I'll just pull up YouTube and I'll just put a name in and it'll come up and I'll

1006
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,600
listen and it's just what I need in the moment.

1007
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,960
Isn't that what a relationship is about is like God speaks into one of us.

1008
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,280
And then we're like, you gotta hear this.

1009
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,400
You've got to listen to this.

1010
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,400
And I do that too.

1011
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,400
We, it works both ways.

1012
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,120
It's a beautiful exchange.

1013
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,560
And uh, I love that.

1014
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,960
And so when you brought up Jude one and we looked at that scripture, I was, I was, I

1015
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,520
was slaying to you as it did to me slayed by it.

1016
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,520
Yes.

1017
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,000
I mean, and then you told called into this podcast and then he read the book of Jude.

1018
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,480
He was like, Oh my gosh, this and fat.

1019
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,480
Okay.

1020
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,480
That's the whole point of this podcast.

1021
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,480
There you go.

1022
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,120
Point you to the word to Jesus himself.

1023
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,120
And that's it.

1024
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Yeah.

1025
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,160
So let's just go ahead and give up while we're doing this.

1026
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,760
This is our why.

1027
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Our why is that we want you to know the person of Jesus Christ, not religion, not just church,

1028
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,600
but the person of Jesus Christ.

1029
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,720
Go to church.

1030
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:32,720
Exactly.

1031
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:36,200
Does not make you, it doesn't make you a Christian no more than going to McDonald's makes you

1032
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,200
a Big Mac.

1033
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Exactly.

1034
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,040
I loved Big Macs growing up.

1035
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,040
I'm weird.

1036
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,040
I loved them.

1037
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,160
But anyway, I'm suddenly hungry.

1038
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,760
But anyway, we haven't had dinner and it's like eight o'clock.

1039
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,760
Yeah.

1040
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:54,480
So anyway, our whole point of doing this is because we, our heart is to point you to Jesus.

1041
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,320
And I want to say thank you for, they've had many people write in and say, you know what?

1042
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,320
I'm, I'm stepping back into my faith podcast.

1043
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,280
And also because of what Adam and Tina are doing with a curry and the keeper, they, they

1044
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,080
continue to share their faith journey and share what God's doing.

1045
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,320
People are coming saying, you know, I'm coming back.

1046
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,280
I'm so excited.

1047
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,720
This is the whole point of podcast period.

1048
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,000
It started with the God casters.

1049
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,560
It's going to end with the God cast.

1050
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Come on now.

1051
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,760
I mean, God dropped this into Adam's heart.

1052
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,520
19 didn't even know why.

1053
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,200
Didn't know for sure, but look what God's doing.

1054
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,840
So we want to thank you for listening.

1055
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,760
And I just kind of do some shout outs.

1056
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,440
I mean, my gosh, we could preach for hours, but I'm going to do some shout outs.

1057
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,440
Listen to this.

1058
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,440
Some very cool stuff that's happened.

1059
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,440
Listen to this.

1060
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,920
Um, RG at RG BTC.

1061
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,920
Love this.

1062
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,600
God bless you and bridge church.

1063
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,720
Chimin and net boost.

1064
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:57,720
Thank you for the boost.

1065
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:58,720
My friend.

1066
00:49:58,720 --> 00:49:59,720
We so appreciate that.

1067
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,080
We love Satoshi's.

1068
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,120
It's just fun getting feedback.

1069
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,120
Yes.

1070
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,160
Value for value is an amazing thing.

1071
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,160
It's amazing platform.

1072
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960
And it's a way to say, you know what?

1073
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,400
I value what you're doing.

1074
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,680
I value what you're saying.

1075
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,320
I value who you are and I'm going to send some value your way.

1076
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,720
And that could be through Satoshi's.

1077
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:23,160
It could be through simply on PayPal through living up in a world.com or, or, or emails.

1078
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,200
It's just a way of saying thank you for what you're doing.

1079
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,200
So thank you.

1080
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,200
I love this.

1081
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,800
Sir, by his grace says this just keeps getting better.

1082
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:32,800
Loved in capitals.

1083
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,000
I love that.

1084
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:41,480
Loved how biblical show 23 was I'm driving to Idaho from Florida and had a wet few hours

1085
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:47,000
as massive downpours and storms today through Alabama and Mississippi.

1086
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,400
Y'all's shout out.

1087
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,400
Sure pet me up.

1088
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,200
I sure love Roman.

1089
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,200
So do we, my friend.

1090
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:59,880
T Y F Y C thank you for the something boost.

1091
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:07,360
I'm slowed down on the Tina said what it was, but thank you for your calm.

1092
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,360
I don't know.

1093
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,360
I can't remember now.

1094
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,360
Sorry.

1095
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,800
I'm sorry by his grace, but thank you for the comments, brother.

1096
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,880
And the boost blessings to you, Adam, the pod father, Curry.

1097
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,400
I want to always make sure I give him kudos and credits.

1098
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:26,480
He says this, I love it when an episode makes me want to read the discussed scripture right

1099
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,480
away.

1100
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,560
Jude on deck.

1101
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Great episode.

1102
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,120
It gave us an amazing striper boost.

1103
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,920
Adam, I need that file for the, the wave file for the striper boost.

1104
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,840
It's really awesome when you do that.

1105
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,920
Thank you.

1106
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:48,600
And then also Eric for being our second big, our donor through.

1107
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,160
Thank you, Eric, for that gift.

1108
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,160
Thank you, Eric.

1109
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,160
Such a great brother.

1110
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,800
We appreciate you and thanks for encouraging us and supporting us.

1111
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,800
It means a ton.

1112
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,800
It really does.

1113
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,080
It makes what we're doing just so worthwhile and then we can bless it forward.

1114
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,080
Exactly.

1115
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,080
Which is so our heart.

1116
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:10,680
And one more shout out to Mr. Adam, the pod father, Curry for being our founding donor.

1117
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,680
He is.

1118
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,680
Boom.

1119
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,680
He was our first one.

1120
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,680
I know.

1121
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,720
Thanks brother for the encouragement and the support.

1122
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,520
We love you and family.

1123
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,920
We want you to know we love you and our heart for you is Jesus.

1124
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Our heart for you is the good news.

1125
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,760
It's very simple by the way.

1126
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,200
It's simply this.

1127
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,160
Jesus lived the life we should have lived and he died the death.

1128
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,560
We should have died in our place.

1129
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,840
And then after he died, three days later, he was raised from the dead, proving that

1130
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,280
he's the son of God and proving his love for you.

1131
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:52,240
And that he says this, that if anyone would believe in him, he would come into our lives.

1132
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,760
He would forgive us of our sins and he would be with us forever.

1133
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,000
The scripture says we will not perish.

1134
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,880
That is our heart for you.

1135
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,880
God bless you.

1136
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,760
Thank you for listening today.

1137
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,760
We are so.

1138
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,760
Oh my God.

1139
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,760
I love you.

1140
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,760
Hey, blessings to you our friends.

1141
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,760
We love you.

1142
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,760
Much love.

1143
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,760
Have an amazing week on purpose.

1144
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,760
We'll see you next week.

1145
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,760
God bless you.

1146
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:32,240
Bye bye.

