Welcome to Fit to Be Real and a little extra.
We are talking family, community, CrossFit,
and we are wildin' out.
I'm Victoria. Hey guys, I'm Carly.
That was horrible.
And on the line, we have a very special guest special.
Yes, and this episode is not one you want to miss.
So he is the man with the moves of a smooth criminal.
He's a history buff.
He was a pro wrestler.
We're going to get into that.
Indiana Jones' stunt double.
Not professionally though, in his head.
With two secondary Ed Masters degrees in history.
Because he's a history buff, you remember.
But that turned into a cheerleading champion
and then a cheer coach to police officer to detective
all while being a part owner of a CrossFit gym
called Butchertown in Kentucky.
And now he is a pilot.
So needless to say, he is the king of leveling up.
And he's our brother.
And he's only like 21.
What's up?
Hi guys, I hope it is as atrocious as hers.
I'm pretty sure it's popular.
Oh yeah, it's popular.
Did our intro suffice for you to be hit everything?
Yeah, whoever your researcher is though got a lot wrong.
We went on Wikipedia.
We do need to clean that up a little bit.
Your listeners understand the truth.
Let's get the truth out.
One, I have one Masters degree.
And that first Masters degree is in curriculum instruction
for secondary ed education.
Not history.
I told Victoria that.
Of course she did.
But I didn't finish from the University of Louisville.
And that was in teaching exceptional children.
Yeah, so neither of my Masters degrees are in history.
So you got that wrong.
What else?
Let's see.
The CrossFit gym I own is not called Butchertown.
It's called Butchertown CrossFit.
Butchertown CrossFit.
She said Crosstown Butchertfit.
No, she didn't.
I'm not a criminal.
No, I.
I mean, yeah, let's just move on.
Let's just move on.
All right.
So let's talk about this.
Everybody knows from the previous episode that you really
started your wrestling career in the backyard with some oil
painting turpentine.
Some fire and a neighbor named Sally.
I'm not a criminal.
Some fire and a neighbor named Sally.
Oh my God.
Where's the dog?
I love Sally.
So talk to us about the wrestling.
Was that when you were wild thunder or triple A?
A radio commercial came on
for a new wrestling school opening up.
I asked Dad.
I said, Hey, Dad, I want to do that.
It was in his old silver, silver hatchback.
You love the detail.
Yeah, yeah.
And I want to do that.
I was like, Oh, I don't know.
Got to talk to your mother, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I was 17 and I went.
I don't know if that's legal, by the way.
So I went and I signed up and I started wrestling school.
And I mean, this was the kind of wrestling where you got chairs
smacked on your back, jumping off the ring in shiny silver pants.
Yeah.
Well, first I was in a blue singlet.
Blue onesie.
Yeah.
In case you guys don't know.
Did not know that.
Yeah. No, yeah.
This was legit like a professional wrestling, you know,
where you learned how to take bumps or falls and you learned
how to choreograph matches.
And yes, I got hit in the head with steel chairs
and put through metal guardrails.
And mom can tell you a story.
I got smashed in the head by this tag team.
Huge men.
They were called the
the wrecking brothers and the wreck wrecking crew.
I don't remember.
But oh yeah, they smashed my front toe lobe with a steel chair.
And mom said she was never going to come back again.
And I don't think she ever watched me wrestle again.
She has some good stories.
Yeah.
From that experience.
That was an interesting life choice.
I learned a lot about that.
Interesting life choice.
Yeah, couple interesting life choices that we're going to talk about.
Like your two secondary ed masters in history.
Yeah, just like all the things I didn't do in real life.
Wait, so you survived.
We survived the fire in the backyard.
I want you to tell everybody how you got into cheerleading
because people don't believe that you are a cheerleader.
Yeah. So I was dating a woman.
A girl in high school.
And she was a cheerleader for Cardinal Harrah.
Go Lions.
So we were going to Temple University together as freshmen.
And I went to go take her to cheerleading tryouts.
I walked in and the coach kind of assumed I was trying out.
And I was like, no, it's kind of not what's going to happen today.
And he who later became a business partner of mine
brought me over to this girl.
She was a junior at the time wearing the sports bride's spankies.
If you don't know what that is, go watch the movie.
Bring it on.
You'll learn real quick.
Oh my God.
I got the door tour.
That's actually a great line. Good job.
And I threw my first stunt and I was hooked.
I was hooked and then, you know, 14, 15 years later,
I was winning national championships and on your first U.S.
Olympic cheerleading team.
I was just going to say that it turned that not try out,
try out turned into being on the Olympic cheerleading team
and also being the coach of the number one team in the U.S.
All those things, ironically, Carly got you got correct.
Oh my gosh, I didn't think you were going to say that.
Because I was at every competition screaming and pounding the stage
and also having anxiety attacks.
I was one for the books.
I was a, I never thought I'd become a cheerleader.
So cheerleading brought you to Kentucky.
Correct.
And then from there, you got into the police force.
And during that time is when Butchertown CrossFit came to be.
Yeah, Yoda, I guess that's one way to put it.
But before you even got to all of that, I mean,
everything that you do is very physical and active.
When did CrossFit start for you?
Because it wasn't in Kentucky.
It was, it was here.
Yeah.
No, again, you guys need to hire a better researcher.
Holy smokes.
I found CrossFit on day one of the police academy.
The police academy that that is that was their,
their training methodology was CrossFit.
Oh, just as a side note, Billy doesn't do anything halfway.
He was, he graduated number one in his class in the police academy
as well.
Cause he doesn't know how to go hard and go home.
He just goes hard.
Yeah.
I hate my life right now.
I hate what's happening.
I hate what I'm listening to.
I hate what's being said to me.
This is horrible.
What are you even saying?
He's number one in his class and he graduated.
Isn't that awesome?
Everybody.
I didn't graduate number one in my class.
I was there.
Well, you mentally were there or not there.
I got the leadership award.
I got the physical fitness award.
I was the president of my class, which is why I spoke.
That was right.
You were the president.
Yes.
I got the top driver.
I got the top driving award and that was it.
Oh yeah.
All right.
Well, you got awards.
Cause he goes.
We'll talk about all your tattoos at a later date, but go ahead.
So you found CrossFit from the police academy.
Correct.
Okay.
They made you know.
That's about the only thing.
That's about the only thing you've gotten right.
But yes.
Yeah.
So it was part of the training.
It was part of the training.
Okay.
Why?
Because it was a way of training like what is it about CrossFit?
CrossFit is extremely functional across all kind of realms of
functionality.
You have to be strong.
Well, you have to be relatively strong for you.
You have to be, have good cardiovascular fitness.
You need to be, uh, you need to have mobility, flexibility.
There's just a lot of broad spectrums of every type of
there's just a lot of broad spectrums of everyday fitness
that kind of CrossFit hits on in its training methodology.
So for law enforcement and first responder
and kind of the military fitness,
which you can't be good at kind of one thing,
you have to be good at all things to get through that.
CrossFit would just be, or is not would be,
is kind of a great program for stuff like that.
That's when you like,
or lack of a better word fell in love with CrossFit.
Oh yeah, no, I'm in a full on relationship with CrossFit.
So what is it, they say that about CrossFitters and vegans
where like you can't walk into a room
with a bunch of CrossFitters and not have them talk about it.
Like what is that about it?
CrossFit is an extremely physical fitness program.
There is a huge mental aspect to it
that kind of works in a cyclical symbiotic way
with your body where I mean CrossFit
is as hard as you want to make it, right?
So even the workouts itself,
like you don't have to go part,
but CrossFit by nature is progressive.
There are many ways you can very easily see
your fitness progress, your physical progress
and your mental progress.
So there's a lot of these baseline workouts that you do
that you redo two, three times a year
to see if your total time goes down or your weights go up
by doing that and you're seeing your progress
incrementally, scientifically by the numbers,
you find a sense of confidence.
You find a sense of progress or success if you will.
And through that success,
you find this new form of confidence
that you breed by doing better and better
that the work you're putting in,
you're actually getting results.
Like, hey, I did this one workout, Fran.
Fran is a very, very, very famous CrossFit workout.
And my time is I think it's two minutes and 43 seconds.
Four years ago, my CrossFit time
was like four minutes.
So two years ago, it may have been 3.30.
So you see yourself getting faster and faster,
which means you're getting fitter and fitter.
And so I own a company now called Rx Performance Training
and my slogan is confidence through strength,
a sense of confidence in ourselves
by our ability to do things that we didn't think we could do.
And I think CrossFit is an amazing program for that.
It shows your progress to you every day.
Every day you get stronger
and every day you get a little bit more capacity,
which an easier way to say capacity would be fitness,
like your lung capacity, your ability to do work.
When people get more confidence in themselves,
they tend to get addicted to that.
So that's why when you get a bunch of CrossFitters
in a room together, all they talk about is CrossFit.
It's just, it brings joy to know that this program works.
We've been, every time we go to Kentucky,
we go to CrossFit and we go to your gym.
And I feel that every time we walk in, people welcome us
and help, hey, like it's daunting walking into a CrossFit gym.
And if you don't use those big, heavy machines
or weights every day, it's intimidating.
Yeah, there's a fear factor to start something new,
especially when it's like kind of proving
what your ability is at the start.
Like day one is always gonna be day one.
And it's obviously not gonna be your day 50,
where you're a little bit stronger.
So there is a fear factor, but the community,
especially at Butcher Down CrossFit,
is so inclusive and welcoming.
Like your range of ages is vast, right?
Yeah, you know, well, first of all,
Carly, your research failed again.
CrossFit doesn't have machines.
Yeah, huh? You have bikes?
I've been on the bikes.
Okay. And rowers are those not machines.
Okay, fine, fine, fine.
I, I, I redact that, I redact that, fine.
I love that you explained the word capacity,
but then you say redact
and you're not gonna explain that word.
I am very proud of the community we built
at Butcher Down CrossFit,
which you could find on Instagram at Butcher Down CrossFit.
Anyway.
As well as RX Performance Training.
Yeah, that is a sports performance company
to which I make athletes better athletes.
So, yeah. Well, didn't do your jack on us.
Hashtag, hashtag confidence, be strength.
Anyway.
Idiot, dork, jerk, wuss.
CrossFit's, oh my God.
Idiot, dork, jerk, wuss.
You just brought out the idiot dork, jerk, wuss.
That's, that, that may be a second podcast.
Anyway.
That might be actually it.
Finish your thought.
CrossFit as a whole globally is known
for its welcoming, wonderful, supportive community.
A lot, and rightfully so,
a lot of people pick gyms based off their community,
the feel of the gym,
the way the community supports and cheers for each other.
You know, one of the greatest things about CrossFit is
the way people cheer for each other
in the middle of a workout.
That is true.
You know, you're, you know,
a couple of heartbeats away from death
trying to finish this workout.
And the person next to you is in the same boat
trying to get out of this drowning vessel of pain.
And they're cheering you on.
Hey man, keep going.
Yeah, we have three more minutes.
Keep pushing, keep you doing great.
You know, you know, CrossFit is about supporting each other.
And Butchertown CrossFit,
I feel is one of the best communities
that I've ever experienced to do that.
Well, that makes a lot of sense about the community of CrossFit.
And as, you know, you can kind of find that
any CrossFit gym that you go to,
I think that's kind of the point.
Yeah, when you come here,
you go to a CrossFit gym around here.
Because once you are a CrossFitter,
I feel like you can walk into any CrossFit gym.
However, the starting is the hardest part.
And that's what people always get intimidated by walking in the first time.
I mean, yeah, lifting weights has a really bad rap.
And it is not.
I get so frustrated on social media.
The perception of women and men
and what they think weightlifting will do to them.
And I don't want to look bulky.
I don't want to look like a man.
That is such an ignorant and uneducated view.
All that is is fear and apprehension.
That's not truth.
If you lift weights, you will not get big and bulky.
And I'm not saying just women don't want to get big and bulky.
There's men, too, that say, oh, if I lift weights,
I look like a bodybuilder.
That's that's ignorant.
And that's uneducated.
That's not what weightlifting does.
Weightlifting, like anything, has different variations.
If I want to be a sprinter, you run to sprint.
You train to be a sprinter.
If you want to be a marathon runner,
you're going to train to be a marathon runner.
And a sprinter's body and a marathon runner's body
are completely different.
But they're both yet still running.
So when we talk about lifting weights and CrossFit,
or just lifting weights in general,
not every time you pick up a weight,
are you going to look like Hulk Hogan?
But there's also different ways that you
can lift to get a nice toned, lean, healthy, fit, strong.
And again, strong doesn't mean bulky, but a strong body.
That whole perception of picking up a barbell or a dumbbell,
it bothers me because it's not true.
Well, I want you to clear something up really quickly,
because we get this a lot.
We are not CrossFit, number one.
But we have weight classes where we lift weights.
The max would be 20-pound dumbbells, right?
OK.
Tell people that they will not look,
I'm doing air quotes, like a CrossFitter
by using at max 20-pound dumbbells.
We're talking about this thing called training volume.
And we're going to talk things about RPE,
rate of perceived exertion, which means the intensity
to which you go.
You're lifting a 20 to 10-pound weight.
I don't know how many times you guys
lift it, lots and lots and lots of times.
You're doing high volume.
If you want to get big and bulky and look like a quote,
I don't like that term, but I'll let it slide.
I did air quotes because that's people's misconception.
Right.
But I don't like the air quote CrossFitter,
because not all CrossFitters look the same.
But you're going to have to lift way heavier than that
for way less reps to get that huge, bulky body.
So I feel like you already kind of answered this question,
because it sounds to anyone who has never
done a CrossFit experience something
that they can go and do and try if they've never done it.
But what would you say to someone
who's a little bit intimidated or maybe
has the want to check it out but doesn't know if they want
to go full-fledged?
Like what would you say to them to get them in the door?
Yeah, so life is too short to be afraid of anything.
Try everything.
This is going to get real deep, but tomorrow's not
promised to anybody.
If you want to do something and try something,
then put your big girl pants on.
Put your big boy pants on and go try it.
There's very few things that are going to kill you
unless you tell me you want to go skydiving without a parachute.
CrossFit's not going to hurt you.
I would suggest researching the gym,
find out who the owners are, the coaches, what style,
they are into.
CrossFit is not cookie cutter.
There are very different types of gyms.
Find a gym, try gyms out.
Because if you find the right CrossFit gym,
you're going to fall in love with it.
Those strangers on day one are going
to end up being close friends.
Those coaches are going to be caught on.
And that culture that that gym creates
is going to be a huge part of your everyday life.
If you don't like it, you won't like it.
If you love it, it'll change your life.
So just don't be afraid of things that are new.
New is great.
What's the gym that you do when you come home to Pennsylvania?
I do. Yeah. CrossFit DelVal.
That is an amazing gym.
That is my second home.
That that is a great place.
CrossFit DelVal or CrossFit Delware Valley.
So let's talk about age in CrossFit just quickly.
You have a group of women at Butcher Town.
They come in together and you call them what?
Or they call themselves the Hens.
They're like, they're the birds. The birds.
The Hens. They're the rooster chickens.
What is the matter with you? The Hens?
The Hens, I knew it was some sort of animal, bird,
flight, whatever.
Oh, God. They are how old are they?
And do they do the CrossFit that everybody else does?
Or do they do their own thing?
First of all, I'd like to throw a hashtag.
Hello to Megan, Jenny, Elizabeth,
Shefra. They do the exact CrossFit we do.
They they do nothing different.
The Hens are a group of wonderful women who do not fear
the physical demands of everyday life.
And they do that because CrossFit has given them
the strength and confidence to do so.
It's a competition within yourself, really.
Every single day.
CrossFit is about the person, not the program.
I say that in every class I coach.
And you have got to really, if you're going to be
a good CrossFit coach, we have to understand that.
You can't push the program, the weight, the movements
on people. You have to push their confidence
and find ways to build their confidence within them.
Because you don't want people to quit.
Quitting is like drug use.
It gets easier every time you do it.
And after the first time you do it, it just gets easier
and easier and easier.
Quitting is a virus. It's a disease.
It's a horrible bacteria.
Can you explain what a wad is?
Well, how X-rayed is this?
I don't know.
Can we be hashtag specific?
Yes. W period.
Oh, period.
D period.
Explain the wad.
Wad is just an acronym for...
You're dumb.
It's an acronym for workout of the day.
And it's just the wad of the day, whatever that daily
workout is.
Thank you for that.
That was wonderful information.
I think if you're ever in the Louisville, Kentucky area
and check out Butchertown CrossFit,
find Coach Bill's classes to take
because his motivation to get you through
is always sound tracked by Broadway tunes.
Yeah.
Or the greatest showman.
This is the greatest show.
Really quickly, can we go through all your tattoos
because we talk about your tattoos in a lot of classes?
You have 40 percent.
40 percent is David Goggins, former Navy SEAL.
40 percent is his thought process of when you think
you are dying, ready to quit, about to give up,
can't move on, can't go forward, gonna lay down and die.
You have only used 40 percent of your physical ability.
You still have 60 percent left to get up, move forward,
keep going, being sorry for yourself, get up and press on.
That's what the 40 percent means.
Impossible is nothing.
I'm not sure if I need to explain that to you.
We got that.
Gotcha.
217.
Oh my God.
The address to which I grew up in.
It's a Chinese symbol.
It means victory.
Although I've been told it might be laundry.
I'm not sure.
But it means victory.
That's for more head state tree leading.
Hashtag go Eagles.
One of my biceps says nobody cares, work harder.
That's it. Nobody cares, work harder.
I have a shield.
We're always with you.
Come home safe to us.
Sure, my kids.
That's right.
I love all of the other titles that Billy holds due to his heart.
His best, biggest and most proudest is being a dad of two incredible, incredible kids.
Little Billy who will always be little Billy and Josie and they are, they're the best.
They're just the best.
But let's move on to a game.
All right.
We are about to play a game that you don't know anything about.
We're not told about this beforehand.
And you have to answer the questions as truthfully as you can.
And quickly.
I don't know.
You can't make me do this.
You're not on fire.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's a quick game.
So the first one that comes to your head.
It's called, I just, I just answered the question as fast as I can.
I'm explaining it to you.
Josh.
Hush you baby.
Okay.
It's called Seafit sisters who WAD you rather?
Oh, who WAD I rather.
Wow.
Clearly you, the researcher put all her effort into creating that one and not researching.
The better dancer.
Oh shit.
This is not going to be good.
Me.
Yes.
You are the better Seafit sister.
Who is better at keeping a secret?
Victoria.
Who would you rather go on a long road trip with?
Victoria.
Country concert.
Victoria.
Who would you rather work out with?
Both of you.
That was nice.
Who would you rather shoplift with?
Oh, Carly for sure.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm sneak.
Well, yeah, because you have no conscience.
Victoria would be sad about it.
I'm most likely to make mom cry.
Oh my God.
Both of you.
No, you, the answer is you.
Who would order weird food at a restaurant?
Carly, like your damn coffee.
Who drinks blueberry cheesecake?
Who would ruin the family traditions?
Me.
Yes.
1 million percent you do every year.
Okay.
Who would be more likely to never lift a finger?
You.
I knew the answers before I even wrote these down.
Who would get another animal?
It depends.
Are you not saying no to your kids and getting another dragon in
the house?
Or is Victoria getting another dog?
So both.
Okay.
Who would most likely be the star of the neighborhood who
everybody loves?
Oh my God.
You.
You said that.
Who would end up in jail?
You.
Who's mom's favorite?
Me.
Who's your favorite?
Andrew.
Oh my God.
Guess what?
You won.
Hi guys.
My name is Billy.
Well, I'm going to be a little bit more serious.
I'm going to be a little bit more serious.
Okay.
Well, this has been very insightful for all of our listeners on
how we grew up.
And also on CrossFit, because it, I think it is very
misunderstood if you're not in it.
If you're kind of on the outside of it and you, you don't do the
education to kind of learn what it is.
So it's been, I think it's been really, really knowledgeable.
So thank you.
You're welcome.
Is there anything you'd like to leave our listeners with before
we go?
A little trinket, a little.
A trinket.
Did you steal it at the store?
I mean tidbit.
Tidbit.
Tidbit, not trinket.
So if I'm going to give a drink it or a tidbit as a parting gift
to your listening audience, I would say finish what you start
quitting, gets easier every time you do it.
And before you know it, you are too afraid to start anything at
the end of every day.
Be thankful you had the opportunity.
That's about it.
And hashtag confidence to strength.
I love that you're an out loud hashtagger.
I think we're outdated until we talk to you.
And then we realize you're more outdated than us.
I'm more outdated.
I'm a trend center.
You're a trend center?
I'm a trend center.
I've set trends of being, it's cool to be a male cheerleader.
I've set trends that it's really cool to wear plaids and
stripes together.
I have set trends that it's okay to quit a job you've had at
38 and start a brand new career.
Start a company with no clients and have to feed a family.
I've set the trend of being a great dancer as a Husky woman.
A smooth criminal.
All that is true.
I actually, uh, mic drop on that.
You, you win the trend setting award.
Thanks.
Well, all of you next time Billy is in town.
Number one, call him Billy.
Number two, check out his tattoos.
Number three, don't do that.
Number three, he always teaches at least one class for us.
So don't be scared.
He sounds scary.
But come on guys.
I'm Billy.
Oh, well thank you for your time and for being our first guest on
the phone.
Well, I was Andrew Graham Bell made it possible.
Thanks buddy.
Hashtag A bell.
Hashtag history major.
Hashtag.
Oh my God.
You said, hold on.
You said hashtag A bell.
She went hashtag.
Oh man.
Wow.
No, I had a blast.
Thanks.
Thanks for having me on.
We'll do it again.
Top cast number two.
Talk about all sorts of stuff.
Maybe.
Time you guys up.
Get on the belly.
All sorts of things that that we can talk about.
Idiot.
What's.
Yeah.
The next podcast we're going to talk about Victoria's choker
necklaces and, uh,
I'm still wearing them.
Her bucket.
And.
Well, guys, it's.
In real.
To be real.
Oh.
Okay.
So hashtag.
Bye.
So we handed off our real tip and our real extra tip to the man,
the myth, the legend himself with his.
Tidbit on his way out and we firmly believe in everything that he said, do not choose
fear, go for what you want and do not quit.
And stay tuned for a bonus laughs episode coming up this week, explaining everything
that we just kind of threw at the end are inside.
Jokes. Trust me, they are worth it. Take the listen for the bonus laughs.
It's a bit ridiculous.
So we hope you had a lot of takeaways from this episode.
I sure did.
I did too.
Yeah.
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