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Welcome to Fit to Be Real and a little extra.

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I'm pretty excited about this episode because I think we're in the thick of it.

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I would have to agree with you.

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It's about burnout.

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I think burnout means that you just become delirious and that's what we are today.

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Yay! Let's talk about it.

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I'm Victoria.

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Hey, guys.

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All right. Hold on.

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Hey, guys. I'm Carly.

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Oh, my God. Hold on.

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Why are you doing it from your diaphragm?

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Because I'm trying different ways to do it to see if I can change it.

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Let's be natural.

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Like it's so ingrained in my brain how to say it now that I can.

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Hey, guys.

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I'm Carly.

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Did you get confused?

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No, no, no. Ready set?

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Last time. Best time.

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Hey, guys. I'm Carly.

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Hey, guys.

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There we go. I'm Carly. I'm here. I'm doing this thing.

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Welcome to the burnout.

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Yeah.

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We're talking signs and symptoms so you can kind of be self-aware that you are in one.

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Because maybe you don't know.

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Like maybe you think this is just what life is and we're here to tell you it doesn't have to be that way.

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That's horrible if you think this is what life is.

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And well, when you live in it long, I mean, I know, I know, I know.

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I should be holding up a mirror as we're doing this today.

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And we're going to talk about how to get out of it.

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And from that awareness, you have some tips and tools to get yourself out of it and regulate your stress and your life.

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And we're also going to talk about the difference between stress and burnout, which I actually didn't realize are two very different things.

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Neither did I. Yeah.

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Yeah, that's that's new.

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Raise your hand.

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If you've been personally victimized by Regina George and burnout, I'm raising my hand for both.

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No, for real, though, raise your hand if any of this makes sense to the path that you're on, because this means you're on the path of a burnout.

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Okay, Garl, you better raise your hand.

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I'll do it for everyone.

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If every day is a bad day.

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Well, no, no, no, okay.

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I raised my hand.

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That's sad.

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That's sad.

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If caring about work and home seems to feel like a waste of energy because it's too overwhelming.

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Not home, but work for sure.

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So like work life balance.

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Daily exhaustion.

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Majority of your day is tasks that you feel are like mind numbing or dull or overwhelming and just like way too hard to get through.

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I feel like nothing you do makes a difference.

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It's just kind of keep piling up the overwhelm.

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Yeah, the piling up for me.

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Feel like you're not appreciated and nothing you do is going to be appreciated.

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1 million percent.

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Let's call HR.

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We don't have HR.

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If you raise your hand for any of those, even if they're in a smaller scale way, like Carly like to dissect all of those, which is super helpful.

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Thank you so much.

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It doesn't have to be to the extreme of 100 percent. Absolutely.

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But if you raise your hand for any of that, then guess what?

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It's very, very possible that you are on the path of a burn out way to be living your life.

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Yeah, we don't want that for you.

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We don't want that for you.

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I don't want that for me.

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And I'm definitely there's parts of this that make total sense to me.

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And there's parts of like every day is not a bad day.

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No, no, no, not a bad day.

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I think that's the extreme of this.

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But I'm for sure a burnout.

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So it's just excessive and prolonged stress.

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That's like what gets you to a burnout and it could be work.

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It could be creative juices that you're completely burnout, whatever your path is.

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But it brings you to being overwhelmed and emotionally drained, which I've never raised my hand higher.

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And like unable, it says unable to meet constant demands.

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So I feel like that is that could be a home life thing if you have children.

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There's, you know, you're on the demand at all times, no matter whether you like it or not.

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That's a very that's actually really healthy.

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We should talk about that.

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And it just like feels burnout is defined as just feeling like you have nothing else to give.

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Like you are maxed out.

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Your cup had run over.

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Nothing to give.

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And you're pouring from an empty cup.

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That's the thing I've heard a lot this year.

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That's like a phrase I've heard a lot.

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The pouring from an empty cup.

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And like you can't you cannot pour from a cup to someone else's if yours is completely defeated and depleted.

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You cannot help somebody in an airplane if you don't put on your face mask, your oxygen mask first.

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You'd you definitely put your face mask and then put the oxygen mask on.

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I'm probably passed out.

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They're physical symptoms and emotional symptoms and behavioral symptoms to a burnout.

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Raise your hand.

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If you're tired or drained.

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If your immunity is low, so like you frequently can get colds and sicknesses and whatever that is, like you get, you're always congested.

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Because yeah, just being run down, not enough sleep will make you sick.

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That's called lowered.

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I raised my hand.

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If you get frequent headaches or muscle pains and not from doing a workout and being sore like that.

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It's not really me.

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Is this about me?

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It's not about you, but I really like that that's where it's going for you.

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I'm going to be the every man today.

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Change in appetite and that could be in both ways, like emotional eating or not eating at all, stuff like that.

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That is one million percent me.

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I feel myself craving foods like sugar and salt when I am at my lowest amount of energy when you're tired.

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And then you've already hit this, but change in sleep pattern.

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How did I get here?

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Like those two are two are physical options.

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Physical symptoms to a burnout.

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If you feel any of those things, I haven't been sleeping.

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And that comes from like when you can't turn your brain off.

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And how am I going to get them all done?

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There's not enough hours in the day.

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And I think that's what we're here to talk about.

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There are enough hours in the day because you need to figure out how not to do that.

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I'm raising my hand because that's a symptom I wasn't aware of.

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If you feel like there are not enough hours in a day.

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Because she's a hustler, as we've said before.

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I'm a hustler, baby.

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I'm trying to think of how many episodes I can say that in.

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All of them.

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11 out of 11 11 out of 11.

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Work smarter, not harder.

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I know it's just so hard to work smart.

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Because that's not going to happen.

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If you have these symptoms.

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If you are a list maker.

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If you feel helpless or trapped or defeated and these are all really.

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Extreme words, I think to feel on the daily all the time every day, but just at moments

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that overwhelming times at your job or at home and you just, you know, basically you

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Detachment that you are completely alone in feeling this way or in the world at all.

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And then you isolate yourself.

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Like there's so much to deciding.

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Maybe they're just perpetually burnout.

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Like now I'm I have to think about that.

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You think about your whole life.

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Decreased satisfaction or like sense of accomplishment.

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enough or worth it because there's so much to do like you couldn't possibly do it all

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Like that sentence.

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Like getting that sentence out at all.

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I great things do.

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Why am I here?

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So this is the last type of like listing that we'll do for right now, but there's behavioral

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So the reason why we're even listing all this is so that you're aware and that maybe you

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think of things in a different way of, oh, wow, very much sounds like me or somebody

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But maybe I could stop it before it gets there.

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Like I always just say, oh my God, I'm so stressed out.

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Maybe I'm not stressed out.

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Maybe I'm burned out.

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And those are two different things.

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So let's let's get to that now since you brought that up and then we'll do the behavioral symptoms

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So there is a difference of stress and burnout.

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And this is brand new to me.

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I was completely surprised in reading this.

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Stress is when things feel like they're too much.

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It's too much.

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The pressures are very high mentally and physically.

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And it feels like you can't get anything under control.

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But if you could just organize it, it'll be OK.

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This is this is what I do on the daily.

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You look at the list of things to do and you're like, oh my gosh, what minutes do I have to

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get these done that aren't work minutes and work like things that I'm already responsible

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If I can just organize and get situated and make this will go here and this will go here

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It'll be all right.

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Like you tell yourself that all the time.

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That stress, right?

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That is 100 percent just stress.

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Yeah, it's like stressing out over a project.

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And once the project's done, you feel relieved.

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You do.

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You feel like your shoulder is completely right.

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That stress, right?

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Yeah.

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Burnout is not enough.

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So if stress is too much, then burnout is the complete opposite.

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Like you feel empty mentally and physically, you're exhausted and getting to the end, like

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looking at that list in the morning, getting to the end of the list and wondering when

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you're going to get it all done.

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There's no hope.

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It's not a feeling of like, all right, well, if I do ABC, indeed, that it's going to be

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OK, even though I'm super anxious about it.

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There's no hope when you're in a burnout.

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Like, you know, it's not going to get done.

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It's not going to get done well.

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And you don't have the capacity to feel like it is.

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To see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's a good way to do it.

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Yeah.

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So that's the difference.

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And I do they when they're mapped out like this, it's so different.

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Yeah.

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What I was reading was that stress eventually becomes physical.

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So like you carry stress in your shoulders, you carry stress.

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You know, in your muscles, you carry stress in your back, you carry it in your, you know,

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in your head with headaches and stuff and burnout is just the feeling of nothing.

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Yeah.

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Nothingness, basically.

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You have no feelings about it, anything, because you just don't care.

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Stress is anxiety.

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Burnout is depression.

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Yes.

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Stress is emotional overactivity, like highly anxious, right?

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Overly.

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And burnout is emotionally stunted.

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It's everything you're saying.

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I'm just fully mapping it out.

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Yeah, I did not know that.

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Stress is primarily physical damage.

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I'm amazing.

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And burnout is primarily emotional damage.

298
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Yes.

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Stress is energy loss and burnout is loss of ideals and hope.

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Yeah, burnout sounds horrible.

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I mean, stress is horrible, but stress sort of seems positive right now as opposed to

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burnout.

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Yeah.

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Because there is a light at the end of the tunnel and if you can just get there, the

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stress will be over.

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Sometimes that stress is never over though, because you're constantly worried about the

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next thing.

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Well, if that stress is never over, then it goes into a burnout.

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Like it doesn't just like.

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Piled up.

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It's like a pile up into anxious stress.

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It definitely eventually turns into depression.

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Right.

314
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For sure.

315
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Now, everybody has a level of anxiety.

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Everybody has a level of depression in you.

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It truly science fact.

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Everybody has that capability.

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It's how you manage and regulate to either stay like stay in the middle of the extremes,

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like one side or the other.

321
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So some of the behavioral symptoms.

322
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Yeah, circle back.

323
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Yeah.

324
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But but but but.

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Withdraw responsibilities, which makes sense to depression, right?

326
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Like you can't.

327
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You just can't do it.

328
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Yeah.

329
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You've already said this, but isolation.

330
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Completely isolate yourself from your responsibilities.

331
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When the people in your circle, like everything is just too much.

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This association.

333
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Yeah.

334
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Using food, drugs, alcohol, whatever that is to cope, yeah, that goes to burnout.

335
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That's not necessarily a stress reaction.

336
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Trying to get burnout.

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Oh my God.

338
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Why are you here?

339
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Lashing out on others via like your frustration, but you're taking it out on everybody else.

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That is a behavioral symptom.

341
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And then skipping work or not caring enough to show up late or to leave early because

342
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it's just it's not the cards for you.

343
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Yeah.

344
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Those are all behavioral.

345
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Yeah.

346
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Well, they sound horrible.

347
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Let's lighten this up a little bit.

348
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Cool.

349
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Cool.

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Carly is definitely more of the burnout.

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Her emotional capacity is zero.

352
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She has absolutely no sensitivity.

353
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I am a highly sensitive person.

354
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I am an HSP and Carly is a great match.

355
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Dead.

356
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Carly is dead.

357
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Carly is Jack the Pumpkin King.

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Dead inside, but she sings a pretty song, you know?

359
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Victoria does.

360
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She's like, you have no sympathy for anyone.

361
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If you have an injury, you're weak.

362
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Do you need to cry?

363
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You're weak.

364
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That is quite literally how Carly gets by.

365
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And I think it's because you are so burnt out that dealing with whatever it may be, if

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you crack that surface, you are going to crack wide open.

367
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You know.

368
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And then, Victoria knows, she's like, I have no, I do have feelings, but like, I wasn't

369
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going to say like I have no feelings.

370
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I do have feelings, but if that door or that flood gate opens, it is not going to be good

371
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for me.

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So instead of like doing it a little bit at a time, I just go one and done and I am down

373
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for the count for a little while.

374
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She's a HSP baby.

375
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In all aspects.

376
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So I don't like to break those cracks very often.

377
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Yeah.

378
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So let me just, let's just put that up.

379
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Everything you just said is wrong.

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Everything you just said in life on how you handle life is you've not correct way to do

381
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it.

382
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Oh my God, no.

383
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Don't do that.

384
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Yeah.

385
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And I'm only saying that and I'm partially making fun of her, but partially like Carly

386
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uses this as her therapy because she won't actually go to therapy.

387
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I will.

388
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I will.

389
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By the way, I'm just burnt out.

390
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I don't have any time.

391
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I don't have $5.

392
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Yeah, that's true.

393
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So here's, okay, to burn out.

394
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I don't have any time for it.

395
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,000
Here's something I told myself for years and you can talk to mom about this because mom

396
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tried to get me in therapy.

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I feel like the first time was in high school and then in college and I was always like,

398
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I don't have time for it.

399
00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,560
Blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

400
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Giving all the excuses as to why not.

401
00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,960
And it was because the main reason was society of that like therapy means there's something

402
00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,960
wrong with you.

403
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,960
Right.

404
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,920
It's really, you know, it's Carly's thought process, right?

405
00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,000
Therapy means you're weak and there's something wrong with you and you have to talk it out

406
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,400
to a stranger and all the scary things, blah, blah, blah, blah.

407
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So I avoided it like the plague for years.

408
00:17:53,600 --> 00:18:04,480
So if it's something like therapy and I say, just do therapy for five minutes.

409
00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,640
Go talk to someone for five minutes and you're like, I don't have five minutes.

410
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,160
I have five minutes.

411
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,800
That means you need an hour.

412
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,800
Right.

413
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,320
If you feel like you don't have time for five minutes, then you really need an hour.

414
00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,440
Oh my gosh.

415
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,480
If you can't meditate for five minutes, then you should probably be setting aside an hour

416
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of meditation in your day.

417
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,640
You lost me at meditate.

418
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:31,320
Oh, um, it's, it's, no, I get it.

419
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,320
I get it.

420
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,760
When do you, I get it.

421
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,520
I hear everything you say.

422
00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,880
I'm absorbing it.

423
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,080
I just need to put it into action when I have time.

424
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,480
No, no, that is no.

425
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,120
And everyone out there listening, listen to me.

426
00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:50,120
Do not listen.

427
00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:51,120
Oh, trust me.

428
00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:52,800
They're listening to you, not me.

429
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,880
Trust me.

430
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,080
Do garlic.

431
00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,920
The ways to regulate stress and burn out our self care, which we've done a lot of tips

432
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,400
on and you totally believe in all of these things.

433
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,400
I do.

434
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,400
I do.

435
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,400
I believe it.

436
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,400
I believe to get through.

437
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,480
She's putting her hand up in the sky and she's saying, I believe.

438
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,960
Um, but even if you're putting your hand up in the sky and you're saying, I believe,

439
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,080
belief means nothing if you're not putting action to it.

440
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,080
Right.

441
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,080
I believe.

442
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,080
There are tips.

443
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,080
Yeah.

444
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,440
There are tips of ways to turn things around for yourself.

445
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,920
One of them, tip number one, there's only five of them.

446
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,920
Okay.

447
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,920
So bear with us here.

448
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Tip number one is to turn to others.

449
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Okay.

450
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,040
Carly's smiled like the Grinch picture the Grinch.

451
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,120
Now put blonde curly hair on the Grinch.

452
00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:42,600
That's what Carly just did to me.

453
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,600
Wait a second.

454
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,960
I do want to say I did ask for help this week.

455
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,560
I asked for help and it was very hard for me and it was received very well.

456
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,560
I don't believe it.

457
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,560
To who?

458
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,560
To Jacqueline.

459
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,640
I asked her to help us teach an extra class that we're teaching this week.

460
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,200
I asked her to for help.

461
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,200
She said yes.

462
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,120
And she said, why don't I just do the whole thing for you?

463
00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:06,640
Because I know you guys have been working yourselves to death and I was like, wow, I should ask

464
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,640
for help more often.

465
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,160
I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's fine.

466
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,160
We got it.

467
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,160
Yeah, God forbid.

468
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,160
Yeah.

469
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,160
But it was hard for me.

470
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,160
I asked for help.

471
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,240
It was received well.

472
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,240
I might be asking for more help in 10 years.

473
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Very proud.

474
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,240
Thanks Jacqueline.

475
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,400
Very proud of you.

476
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:30,200
So yes, turn to others and it doesn't necessarily mean even though that was a really good and

477
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,960
huge for Carly, huge way to express that, it could just mean to go like talk and like

478
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,080
vent.

479
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:41,880
It doesn't necessarily have to be about asking for help, but that is a huge, huge part of

480
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,880
turning to others.

481
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,880
So it's social.

482
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,520
It could just be someone to listen to you for five minutes.

483
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,160
It could be a community of people.

484
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,600
It could also be limiting the negative people in your life, which we've talked about in

485
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,920
other episodes before, but that's a way to turn to others.

486
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:03,680
Tip number two, reframe the way you look at work, because I think a majority of what burns

487
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,360
people out is their work-life balance.

488
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:11,680
So you work too much or what you're doing at work isn't fulfilling or they're asking

489
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,320
so much of you that you bring it home.

490
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,800
So like your career and what you do for a job has a lot to do with burnout.

491
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,040
They're just connected.

492
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,520
So the way that you look at work is what the difference would be.

493
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,640
So like you find value in a different way or find the balance of work and life in a

494
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,640
different way.

495
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,040
Or maybe you aren't someone who has a lot of work.

496
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:42,360
Friends make friends, like make your environment a little bit lighter for yourself.

497
00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:43,360
And maybe that's hard.

498
00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:45,880
Like making friends is hard, especially as an adult.

499
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,880
Yeah.

500
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,880
Friends as an adult.

501
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,120
It's it's no new friends.

502
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,760
Just like making friends as a kid.

503
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,760
It's scary.

504
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,760
Yeah.

505
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,240
Well, because we're all afraid of rejection.

506
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,240
Right.

507
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,880
So it's even scarier making friends as an adult.

508
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,760
And then take time off.

509
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,200
Oh, OK.

510
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,760
Take time off.

511
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,200
This doesn't apply to business owners.

512
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:15,360
But take time off, which relieves some of your stress in the workplace.

513
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,360
Those are some good tips.

514
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:23,240
What I will say when I was researching burnout for stress is burnout, they say, you know,

515
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,200
take time off, like go on a vacation, but just like we did, we went on vacation for

516
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,160
three days and you'd think that when we came back on Monday, we'd be like rejuvenated,

517
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,000
energized.

518
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,480
And it actually says if you're in a burnout, you won't be because three days is not going

519
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,000
to fix the monumental stuff that you have in your mind or you piled up.

520
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000
And guess what?

521
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000
It didn't.

522
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,880
We went away for three days and and we actually felt I needed another week of vacation.

523
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,880
Yeah.

524
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,960
And not just because like we were up late or whatever like that.

525
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,760
It was, oh, my gosh, now we're going back to it all.

526
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,440
And I don't have I can't get it done.

527
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,920
I couldn't get it done three days ago and I can't get it done now.

528
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:08,120
And that to me screamed, oh, yeah, I am in a burnout because I just went on a cruise

529
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,800
and I feel worse coming back.

530
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,800
Yeah.

531
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,800
Yeah, that's true.

532
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,720
But if you take like anything, if you take micro time off, if you take like a day here

533
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,360
and there in the week, then your stress levels and everything lowers so that it doesn't do

534
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,360
the build up.

535
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,360
Everything in moderation.

536
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,360
Right.

537
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,720
Doing one big trip once every 10 years.

538
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,720
Yeah.

539
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,720
Is that.

540
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,720
Yeah, it's very different.

541
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,000
It's just like, you know, going to therapy one time every six months and thinking it's

542
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,160
going to fix all your problems.

543
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,480
No, you can't talk about that.

544
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,480
OK.

545
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,480
Never mind.

546
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,120
Tip number three.

547
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,480
Re-evaluate your priorities, Carly.

548
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,680
Setting boundaries, which we've talked about before.

549
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,560
It's super hard to do, but really important.

550
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,400
The tech break, which we talked about before, which is also very important.

551
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,960
It all goes together.

552
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,520
Getting some more creativity into your life, whatever that is, whatever creativity is for

553
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,520
you.

554
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,480
Everyone's creative in a different way, but bring that into your life.

555
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:16,600
Take away the humdrum of like wake up, coffee, work, stress, pick kids up from school, get

556
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,520
kids where they need to go, make dinner, go to bed, do again.

557
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,320
Like, but that to me sounds like a great day.

558
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Oh, my gosh.

559
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Have some relaxing time set aside, though, that you've scheduled that in.

560
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,400
We've talked about all this stuff before.

561
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,520
So start doing it and then sleep, prioritize your sleep.

562
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,640
That's something I don't do because I end up staying on the couch way too late.

563
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,640
Yes.

564
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,680
But at the same time, it's hard for you to actually do because you lay in bed thinking

565
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,760
about all the things you have to do tomorrow and then stress out about that, which makes

566
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,760
you not sleep.

567
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Right.

568
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,280
But the little things that you change throughout the day will help the sleep in the end.

569
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,640
So like deciding I'm going to change my sleep that no, nothing's going to change.

570
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,440
My brain will continue to go on.

571
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,520
But if I take a break here and there throughout the day and I reset myself for the 10 minutes,

572
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:15,080
we'll talk about it a little bit later on how to do these tiny things to help yourself.

573
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,760
Then the sleep begins sleep.

574
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,760
Yeah, I love that.

575
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:26,400
Tip number four, make exercise a priority.

576
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,520
Whether you're a fitness person or not, make exercise a priority.

577
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,640
And this is what I was just kind of alluding to.

578
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,160
It could be a 10 minute walk at your lunch break.

579
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,520
You have 30 minutes for lunch, which I think everybody should have way more than 30 minutes

580
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,520
for lunch.

581
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,560
But if you have that, then you take 10 minutes of that, get outside, do a stroll.

582
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,000
It doesn't have to be a power walk.

583
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,320
It can be a pretty girl walk and if you don't want to do a hot girl walk, just take a little

584
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,520
pretty girl walk.

585
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,400
Get rid of that visual.

586
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,040
That's quite a visual if you ask me.

587
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,040
But she's not wrong.

588
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:10,000
She's not wrong because that 10 minute pretty girl walk can boost your mood for two hours

589
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000
in the sun.

590
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,960
That's crazy hours and help you sleep.

591
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Grant Vicki is a perpetual insomniac for all intents and purposes.

592
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,800
And sleeping has never been something that came easy.

593
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240
And there's if you look at her, she's got an I'm asked.

594
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,320
She's got the lavender.

595
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,800
She's got acupuncture needles coming out of the wazoo.

596
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,480
And she's in her own special cocoon trying to get one good night of sleep.

597
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:42,840
Recently, she is the queen of I read in an article once like that's her her line.

598
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:48,640
But if you take a walk and she can definitely correct me, but I venture to say it's between

599
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,800
10 and 30 minutes.

600
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:56,240
If you take a walk before noon in sun or an overcast day where the sun, you know, some

601
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,040
of those days where the sun's still like there, but it's not completely black and dreary, you

602
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,600
will sleep better at night.

603
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,240
And if you make it a daily thing, she is sleeping like a sleeping beauty.

604
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,320
She does it every day, every single day.

605
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,120
And she'll do it after she prioritizes her workout at Seafit and just take a walk before

606
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,200
she gets in the car and then goes about her day.

607
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,240
But she's sleeping and prioritizing that is such a big deal.

608
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,880
But that 10 minutes of getting exercise in not only helps your body, it also helps your

609
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,880
sleep.

610
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320
So like everything is connected is basically what I'm trying to say.

611
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Yeah.

612
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,360
Tip five, support your mood with a healthy diet.

613
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:36,560
So what you eat matters.

614
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,760
Oh my gosh.

615
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,840
How many more ways can we say it?

616
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,840
Minimize refined carbs and sugar.

617
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,600
So all of the white breads and all of the processed sugars.

618
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Makes you tired.

619
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,600
Don't do it.

620
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,440
Just banter you.

621
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,640
Reduce some caffeine intake, Carly.

622
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,640
Nope.

623
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,720
No, you should reduce some caffeine intake, Carly.

624
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,240
I'm going to be real with you all.

625
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,440
I will do a lot of these things I will not know I won't do that.

626
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,640
I will do it, but I won't do that.

627
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,040
And then preservatives reduce those and reduce hormones in food.

628
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,200
So really look at the poultry that you're buying at the store.

629
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,120
Make sure it doesn't have those added hormones in them because they do.

630
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:27,120
They really, really do.

631
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,120
They're doing that now.

632
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:29,120
It's horrible.

633
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,080
Avoid nicotine if you're a smoker.

634
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,560
Like think about your choices.

635
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,440
You know, just like think about it.

636
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,440
Avoid alcohol.

637
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,040
I love that things say like coping mechanisms.

638
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,400
It's what was it from earlier?

639
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Yeah, it's like drugs, alcohol.

640
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,480
That's the same thing.

641
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,480
Yeah.

642
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,920
The alcohol is a drug.

643
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,160
It is a poison.

644
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:55,160
It is more if not the same as addicting to heroin.

645
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Like it's just allowed.

646
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,800
The difference is it's allowed.

647
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,280
It is a drug.

648
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,600
Right.

649
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,800
It's allowed and just do it in moderation.

650
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,480
We're not telling you not to drink.

651
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,000
No, I'm just I'm stressing the fact that like it is kind of surprising when everyone's

652
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,320
like drugs or alcohol.

653
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,320
No, drug.

654
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,600
It's an alcohol or the same thing.

655
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,560
So just avoid it as best you can.

656
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,800
If you're in the middle of a burnout, notice what you're doing with it is really all it

657
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,800
is.

658
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Right.

659
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:28,080
We are not telling you to do anything other than I'm telling everything to Carly.

660
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,120
Eat more omega three fatty acids.

661
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,240
Love a good avocado.

662
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Yes.

663
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,240
That is that the one you know?

664
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,240
And fish oil.

665
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,240
Yes.

666
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Yes.

667
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,240
Salmon, herring, mackerel, anchovies, sardines.

668
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Oh, yeah.

669
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,240
Those are my favorite seaweed.

670
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Carly likes seaweed.

671
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,680
I love seaweed.

672
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,920
I have seaweed salad at least once a week.

673
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Black seed and walnuts.

674
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,440
They're great omega three fatty acids that helps with boosting your mood and just keeping

675
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,960
everything happy and healthy.

676
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,080
And as a side note, it's amazing for your immune system.

677
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,080
Right.

678
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Because if you're burnout, your immune system is low.

679
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,840
Remember when Carly was like, no, my immune system is fine.

680
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,040
I'm always congested and I'm really tired all the time and I'm like always sick because

681
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,800
I have kids and like my body just doesn't fight it.

682
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,960
But here's why.

683
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960
I want to talk about one thing.

684
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,080
Wait, you got more?

685
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,080
No, Carly.

686
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,080
It's your turn.

687
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Okay.

688
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,760
So, thanks for us.

689
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,760
Here's the thing.

690
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,680
And I think a lot of us have the same issue.

691
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:42,040
It doesn't matter what career you're in, whether you own a business or not.

692
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,960
You're always on call.

693
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,400
We are not doctors.

694
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Clearly.

695
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,000
I don't know if that's clear.

696
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,080
I don't think you have to say that louder.

697
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,360
All right.

698
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,080
We're always on call.

699
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800
And because of technology, you're always on call.

700
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,640
You meaning you all.

701
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840
And that is really hard right now.

702
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,880
So people expect you to be on at all times of the day.

703
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Accessible.

704
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,880
Accessible.

705
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,800
I will get an email at 11 p.m. on a Sunday night and I respond.

706
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,800
That's ridiculous.

707
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,200
I know it's ridiculous, but I am in the mentality.

708
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Maybe it's from being a theater, being in theater, musical theater that if I don't do

709
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,200
it, somebody else is going to get the job and we need that job.

710
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,680
So they're like, we're replaceable.

711
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,840
Somebody is replaceable.

712
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,320
You just are.

713
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,440
And if I don't respond, is that person going to contact somebody else and see if they can

714
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,320
get what they want from another business?

715
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,920
So I better do it now.

716
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Or if you text me about a work issue, even though I say, you know, email, we have somebody

717
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,080
that deals with that, I will respond right away.

718
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,600
Because if I don't, somebody else will because I'm replaceable.

719
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840
So I have that mentality constantly.

720
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Right.

721
00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:03,320
And what will help with that is that you are going to say something like, it's therapy.

722
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Not that.

723
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,480
No, I know.

724
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,600
I think we all know we're not replaceable.

725
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,600
You are not replaceable.

726
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,600
Right.

727
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,600
I think we all know that.

728
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:16,720
But in this world with fast, instant technology, well, if you're not going to do it, somebody

729
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,720
else is going to do it.

730
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,720
I'll find somebody else.

731
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,400
It's very hard to get over that.

732
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:26,360
And I think that creates the burnout in any career that you have that you are constantly

733
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,240
accessible because of our phones.

734
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640
And that's a hard thing to get away from.

735
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,560
I miss the Nokia block phone where you could just play Snake.

736
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Yeah.

737
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:43,040
And you had to type a three times or the number one for the letter A, you know, like I, I

738
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:50,560
miss that because I could walk away from it and not have the obligation to respond and

739
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,120
think, well, if I don't respond right now, like the amount of energy we put into what

740
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,160
other people think about our responses and our timely responses or not so timely responses

741
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,560
is such a waste of time.

742
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,560
I know.

743
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,160
But I completely understand what you're saying.

744
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:10,120
But I am here to say, you know, that inner work that you do for your own self worth and

745
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:17,240
your own self value helps with that replaceable feeling even in the workplace, because you

746
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,920
are absolutely not replaceable.

747
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,320
There's no one there is no one like you, Carly.

748
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Although I think I created one.

749
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,680
You one out of three.

750
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,680
You're not replaceable.

751
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,480
And if they do so, go elsewhere.

752
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,520
There's someone else in the line that's better suited.

753
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Right.

754
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920
So yes, should you respond to the work emails?

755
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Absolutely.

756
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,720
I get that feeling at 11 p.m.

757
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,880
I must do this.

758
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,960
I must do this now.

759
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,960
They must know.

760
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,320
No, you're tight.

761
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,320
You're off the clock.

762
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,320
You're off the clock.

763
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,480
There is a little bit of a silver lining to this quiet quitting thing that people are

764
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,480
doing.

765
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,480
Oh, we're talking.

766
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,480
That's my next thing we're talking about.

767
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,480
Great.

768
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Let's talk about it.

769
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,880
I'm about to quiet quit you.

770
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Let's talk.

771
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:06,120
Quiet quitting that you're the one who told me about quiet quitting.

772
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,800
I didn't even know that was a term.

773
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,080
I'm going to be honest with you when I first heard it and told you, I was very judgmental.

774
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,480
My God, she was so mad.

775
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,960
I was angry.

776
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,200
I was like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

777
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:25,400
And after reading and living my life and then thinking about quiet quitting, I was like,

778
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,800
it's not it's not all that bad.

779
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,800
No.

780
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,800
Quiet quitting is not depleting yourself at work, doing what's expected, sometimes less

781
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,680
and not taking on any more responsibility than your job requires.

782
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,800
It's basically clocking in at nine, clocking out at five, not going over and above, not

783
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,800
going over and above.

784
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,720
And now I think there are levels.

785
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:48,720
Yeah.

786
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,880
I I'm not saying that I wish I quiet quitted every day.

787
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,920
Clearly, that's not in the cards for us.

788
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:59,520
I don't want to feel like you do anything quietly, to be honest, to be completely honest, but

789
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,600
I would be a total loud quitter.

790
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,520
I'm quitting.

791
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,440
I would make it known as I walked out of the office every day.

792
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,000
And especially as I just said in this day and age, you are accessible at all times.

793
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,280
We can't quiet quit.

794
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,680
I was judgmental because I was like, that's lazy.

795
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,880
That is so lazy.

796
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Why would you do what is required of you and not extra?

797
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,760
Why wouldn't you want to go the extra mile?

798
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,760
Why would you not?

799
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,920
Because if you don't hustle, somebody's going to hustle harder.

800
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920
So yeah, you quiet quit at five.

801
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,520
I'm going to hustle and I'm going to get promoted.

802
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Right.

803
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:39,880
But I also think that you are paid to do a job, that job.

804
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,880
Right.

805
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,760
A lot of the extra stuff is on you.

806
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,840
And there's something about the quiet quitting that I just I like.

807
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,400
But the part of the quiet quitting that I think I say to you all the time is, no, you

808
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,760
don't have to do that right now, Carly.

809
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,400
No, you don't have to do that right now.

810
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,400
No, you they can wait.

811
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,280
No, they and I'm constantly saying that.

812
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,280
Oh, I know.

813
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,280
I've never read a text.

814
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,280
Why did you respond?

815
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,280
Don't respond.

816
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,720
They emailed you or DMed your personal account.

817
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,080
Don't respond on that.

818
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,280
That is inappropriate.

819
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,680
You do not have to meet them where they're trying to meet you.

820
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,320
You do it the way you want to do it.

821
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,320
Right.

822
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080
And I think that's setting the boundaries, setting 100 percent.

823
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,080
Like the work boundaries leads you to a burnout.

824
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:30,920
Because if you have no boundaries, yeah, then you're going to burnout and this quiet quitting

825
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:36,360
has a very clear boundary, which I think that's why I said I think there's a happy medium

826
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,440
of quiet quitting and leading to burnout. Yeah.

827
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:47,680
And the hard part is trying to, you know, just sort of quit. Not like quiet, but not

828
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,520
loudly, just like, meh, I'm done. Like an average sound, an average tone. I'm right

829
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,800
in the middle, appropriate level. But that is don't judge a book by its cover, because

830
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,520
when I heard of quiet quitting, I was like, that's just people being lazy. And I'm like,

831
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,200
oh, I would love a little bit more of that of just clocking out at a certain time.

832
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,400
But you can, that's up to you. I know that like it's up to you. That's the thing. All

833
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:19,640
of this is about your choices and how you would like to go about either change, shifting

834
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:26,520
things or staying the same. It's the choice that you get to make. If you don't want to,

835
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,360
I'm learning. This is something that I'm doing the work for. If it's something I do not want

836
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:38,760
to do and I know my limits, I know my boundaries, I know if I over exert at this point, it doesn't

837
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:45,320
benefit me or anyone else in my circle or my world. So I have to make the hard decision

838
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,920
to say no, to stick up for myself, to stick up for what I want to do or don't want to

839
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,400
do and follow through without the guilt. Right. And maybe at the time, I mean, right

840
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,360
now I do have the guilt when I make these decisions, but then it dissipates. And hopefully

841
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:06,480
at some point that will go away. The guilt part, I mean, but it helps everybody. It

842
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:12,600
helps everyone. And I get to drive my own, my own path. I get to be the in the driver's

843
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:21,200
seat. What is it? It's the world. If you look at the world as a play, right? There's a script.

844
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:27,440
There's actors. There's characters. There's a director. You stop being a character in

845
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,200
your own story. Yeah. In your life. Be the director, the writer of the story. Get out

846
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:39,200
of that role and become the one who makes all of the decisions and realize that you are,

847
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,480
that's the real role. That's the real purpose that you have. And it's such a hard thing

848
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,840
to do because we are, we especially are generation. The younger generation is a little bit different.

849
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,680
The quiet quitters of the world right now are the younger generation. And our generation

850
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:01,800
did not follow those rules. Yep. We were told we don't get to set the rules. Right. We don't

851
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:08,640
get to be the director of our own story. And so cutting those conditions now in the 30s

852
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,680
and 40 year olds and the 50 year olds of the world. Well, that's harder because our minds

853
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,200
are already trained to not do that. Condition. But we're learning. And Victoria is the first

854
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:23,320
person to say, you know, make a decision and don't feel guilt about it. You feel guilt.

855
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,320
You're making yourself feel guilty. Yes. Yes. You are making yourself feel guilty. The decision

856
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,120
is not right. So once you can get rid of that guilty feeling, that's on you. Right. It's

857
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,040
just a lot easier said than done. But if you do that more often, I mean, the power of no

858
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:47,040
is something that I may never take a hold to, but I try every day. No, I think you could.

859
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,480
I really do think you could. I mean, losing grip of your control is a big part of burnout.

860
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:58,760
It's a big part of anxiety and stress. And that that comes from, yes, you needing to

861
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,600
be in control is is part of why you are in a burnout. I am specifically talking to Carly

862
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:11,320
here. So if there's resonates for you to then then open those ears. But losing grip of the

863
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:17,680
control that you can control at all is really what I'm talking more to. Like you you don't

864
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,360
really have control of anything. Right. Correct. Because it's everywhere all over the place

865
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:30,760
100 percent. So losing the it has to be this way and my way or the way that I'm used to

866
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,160
and understanding if it goes a different route. Here's here's how I can manage that and like

867
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,960
it's all good and it'll be OK. And and it's going to be different. It's not what I expected.

868
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:50,480
All right. Here we go. Like that changes. That changes the game. So the way to regulate

869
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:59,560
and recover have to do with three hours. Did you read this? I sure did. Recognize reverse

870
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,680
and resilience. Recognize is to watch for the warning signs. So all of the symptoms

871
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:12,200
and signs that we're talking about that could lead you into a much deeper burnout. Be aware.

872
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,760
It's following your gut instinct and kind of perking your ears up to all of this. So recognize

873
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:30,240
what's going on. Reverse is undo the damage and seek help. OK. Seek help. Seek help.

874
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,960
Oh yeah. No no no. Now I will. I definitely will. That changed it. Great. Thank you.

875
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:43,880
You're welcome. Resilience. Self care physically and mentally create that resilience to getting

876
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,560
into these stages. So it's rest. It's self care. Anything that is self care for you.

877
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,400
Whatever self care is. We've done a bunch of conversations on self care alone because it

878
00:41:53,400 --> 00:42:00,080
is so so so important. Micro breaks throughout your day whether it's a tech break a

879
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:07,960
zone out noise break from the people in your house the workplace the situation you're in

880
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:14,920
whatever it is micro small it all adds up creating a better work life balance for yourself

881
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:23,960
quality of life. That's a very hard one. It's a big one. Big one. But it is extremely important.

882
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,520
It's really fun for us to work together and then live life together. There's no balance.

883
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:35,640
I take lots of breaks from you. Yes you do. Meditate. It's super hard. Meditation is really

884
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,040
really hard and I would actually love to do an entire episode on meditating and talking

885
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,840
about it and the benefits and stuff. I do it every morning five minutes five minutes

886
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:53,720
I put a timer on and I focus on my breath and I try my very very best. I cannot stress

887
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:56,800
the importance of meditation and meditation comes in a lot of different forms. We'll do

888
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:04,520
an episode on it. Professional support is a therapist is a counselor is a community of

889
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:10,480
professional certified people to help you in whatever way shape or form that professional

890
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:16,320
support means to you. So like not me even though I'm a professional and I support you

891
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:27,280
crabs not the best person. What are you a professional in burning out. Just call her

892
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:35,400
Lumiere. She's got a candle at all ends and they are tapped out but she's going to start

893
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:44,520
practicing all of these things. Yes I will practice what I preach. Real tip of the day

894
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:52,240
I did not tell Carly what I'm going to call this. It's called if you don't know now you

895
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:59,720
know what I want you to do. If you need to go back and re listen to this episode is I

896
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:06,920
want you to differentiate between stress and burnout in your own life. So get a piece

897
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:14,240
of paper take 10 minutes and write down your stressors your triggers things that you're

898
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:19,360
feeling emotionally physically go through the list of everything we just rattled off

899
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:26,560
is it a stress is it a burnout. Are you highly anxious over things or are you a little bit

900
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:32,800
withdrawn and disassociated because it's all too much. Figure out what it is for you

901
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:39,280
and then you can go through the three hours and regulate and reverse and make some resilience

902
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:47,320
to all of this. And now for your real extra tip of the week it's called bound for boundaries.

903
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,840
What does that mean. She hates when I do that stress. What does that mean a bound for boundaries.

904
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:59,360
It means create a boundary and the boundary that I am asking you to create this week is

905
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:07,720
do not respond to anything work related after 8pm or in bed. So whenever getting to bed

906
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:14,720
is for you put the phone down and do not respond to emails to text messages unless you're a

907
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:20,880
doctor on call nurse on call if you're any job on call. But if you are not no one needs

908
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:29,920
you at 11pm when you're in bed. So put it down. Don't take it to the sheets and bound

909
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:39,120
yourself some boundaries. We want you to remember that you are always fit to be real

910
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:50,440
and always allowed to be a little extra. For legal reasons we have to tell you that this

911
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:55,960
podcast is meant for entertainment and educational purposes only. We are not health care professionals

912
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,160
for all of your health wellness fitness and self care needs please refer to the medical

913
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,120
professional in your life your primary care physician your therapist a certified coach

914
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,880
whoever it may be and then let us know what they say because I guarantee we need to know

915
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:26,920
it too. Okay. Okay bye.

