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Welcome to fit to be real and a little extra.

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I'm Victoria. Hey guys, I'm Carly. I'm sorry.

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I'm so excited about our guest today I'm looking

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right into his eyes. Yes be a very special guest

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Chief of Police of Prospect Park Dave Madonna

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Thank you so much. Thank you for having me and

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also our friend. I mean, that's your official

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title We have to be like professional about it.

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The last time I was in one of your classes I

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remember we were in a couples class Patty and

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I and I was exercising with a broken back that

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I didn't know about. Oh my God, that's right.

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He didn't know. I kept tripping and I didn't

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know why. And it turns out my back was broken.

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And we had Patty sit on your back. Oh my God.

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Oh my God. We did it. Oh, you were the ones.

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Yeah, yeah. Because you had to plank and we had

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the partner sit on the back and do squats like

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on the, as the other partner was planking. By

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way, that's you. I did not have people do that.

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And then Patty the next week was like, so Dave

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broke his back. I was like, in class. But no,

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thankfully your back was broken before. We just

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made you work out with one. Say it again for

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the people in the back. Wait, Dave, you have

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to give us your best. Hey guys, it's Dave. Hey

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guys, it's Dave. Oh, that was professional. That

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was good. Wait for the microphone, Carly. Why

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did I have to do that? Because that's our schtick.

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He clearly does not listen to podcasts often.

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But here he is, but we love him anyway. We've

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known Dave for I think as long as we've known

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his wonderful wife who's a seafitter for about

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15 years. Who's also creepily sitting in the

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corner of the room today, but she will not be

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seen or heard. Just know that she's here. I walked

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into Victoria's house today and Patti was here

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first and she literally was Dave's security detail.

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She was just checking out the joint, making sure

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it was safe for Dave to come in. And she said

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back off. So that's where we are right now. You

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have been in your career. Obviously, you're the

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chief of police now. But how long have you been

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a police officer? So I just did 29 years. Next

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May will be 30 years. Damn. Spent 24 of them

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with Upper Derby Township. That? I know. It's

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crazy. It's it's it's so I can't even believe

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it to be honest with you. Most cops will tell

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you that their career flies by. You know, it

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seems to drag when you're in the middle of a

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midnight shift or something like that. But once

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you hit that 20 year mark, you're like, where

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did it all go? That is insane, Dave. Yeah, I

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mean, quite frankly, it's I've had such a blessed

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career. I mean, so fortunate to have the career

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that I've had. You know, not a lot of cops. You

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know get to experience depending on the size

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of the police department get to experience the

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things I experienced in Upper Darby a lot of

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time in a detective Division. I was extremely

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busy But you know at the end it was worthwhile

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because I got to be where I am now Yeah, wonderful

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employer. So 24 years in Upper Darby and I'm

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gonna hit six years soon at Prospect Park. Oh,

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wow. I know again flew by Yeah, I feel like you

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just got to Prospect Park from talking to Patty.

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You know, it's funny. It's like the days are

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long in law enforcement, but the years are really

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short. I can imagine that these are long. Dave

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really helped out our brother, who was a police

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officer for 10 years. And while he was a police

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officer, obviously, there are so many things

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that go on that we don't know about. I don't

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want Billy, our brother, to tell us about it,

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but he would. ask you for advice and stuff like

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that, which was really nice, because I don't

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think I know any other police officers. You're

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like one of the few that I know. Yeah. Go you,

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Dave. I mean, who's really the lucky one here?

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You know, he worked for an extremely busy police

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department and probably a lot busier than even

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my busy department used to be. But at that time

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that he was a police officer, when Dave walked

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in, I even asked, Is it OK? I mean, I have all

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these police officer questions I want to ask

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you, but I said, is it OK that we talk about

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you in your job? Because Billy used to feel like

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he had a target on his back. Do you still feel

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that way? Or did you ever feel that way? I mean,

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from time to time, certainly you feel that way,

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depending on what's going on in the nation or,

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you know, recently an Ohio sheriff deputy sheriff

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was just killed by the father of a young man

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that. the sheriff had shot and killed. Oh my

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gosh. So he was definitely targeted, but you

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know, you're seeing there's prevalence. Uh, there's

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a lot more of this going on across the country

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and it can be scary. You know, you have to, you

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have to always have, you know, be cognizant of

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what's going on and you know, it's, it's really

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a heck of a way to live, but that's an understatement.

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It's just part of the job. Well, not only for

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you, but your family. Yeah. I mean, You know,

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I remember our boys would say to us say some

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guy asked me if I knew you or if I was related

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to you and I'm always like Hmm. Yeah was that

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person? Why did they ask? And yeah, no, there's

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a whole thing that goes along with law enforcement

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that people aren't aware of and You know cops

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deal with it. You don't hear a whole lot about

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it But certainly it's something that's you know

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in the forefront of your mind. I Mean I think

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about it. I well I used to think about a lot

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more when Billy was a police officer just just

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the thought like your wife who's in the corner

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because she doesn't like to be without you Dave

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and the thought of having you know when you go

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to when you go to work just making sure that

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you come home every day you know and I remember

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Billy always feeling that way and my sister and

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always feeling that way so I don't know how police

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families do it. Well again that's another area

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that I was very fortunate in so Patty went above

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and beyond. in my career. I mean, getting a call

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two in the morning, hey, we had a homicide come

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in. There's overtime on the table. Do you want

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it? Yeah, go ahead. I got the house. I got the

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home. I have the kids. You go do what you have

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to do. So, I mean, having a wife like that that's

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ultra supportive and able to let you go do the

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job, that's a huge part of the game. Are you

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saying that because she's in the corner? I was

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just going to say... Well, I mean, it doesn't

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hurt that that's blank twice if you feel unsafe.

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No, no. She and I, she and I, she and I have

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spoken about this. So it's nothing she hasn't,

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she has not heard from me before. I mean, I see

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a lot of marriages, cop marriages, and because

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you don't have someone that that's understanding

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or like ready to let you go do what you have

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to do. I mean, I remember leaving my son David's

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birthday party to go tend to something. Yeah.

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So, you know, there are sacrifices you have to

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make. So if you're truly interested in serving

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the public, and I mean, really serving the public,

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there are personal sacrifices that go along with

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that. That's I never thought of it like that.

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Well, if you're not in it. Or you're not looking

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to be in it. That's not yeah It's not something

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I think on the normal civilians like mindset

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of it Which is I think what should be? to a degree

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because maybe it would just have a little more

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understanding of how the whole thing works and

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and You know, it's been rough the past how many

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years So it's, I feel there would be a little

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more consideration on both sides if we could

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all just like take those little things. Cause

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that's, it sounds like a little thing, but it's

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really one of the biggest things to have a support

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system within your own house and to have everybody

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understand. Like if you want to do this and the

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people that do do this career have a lot of sacrifices

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on the other end of it. Oh yeah, for sure. And

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I think, you know, there's a lot of people that

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understand that. in the public. I think there's

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a lot of people that are very supportive, try

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their best to understand what police officers

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go through. And there's some that just don't

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care. Hey, you took the job. You knew what was

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going along with it. Just do the job. And that's

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fair. I mean, you know, I say that to Carly every

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day. You do. You knew what you were getting into.

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Shut up. Just shut it. But there is a reason

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that we have you on today. There's a few reasons.

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This was Carly's big idea from what I was told

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and get your eye rolling muscles ready. Get ready.

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She's got some questions for you. All I know

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is she asked me to come on and she said, would

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you like to come on? I said, yeah, when? Tuesday.

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Okay. This is something that I've been preparing

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for my whole life. And now that I have it on

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microphone for recording, this is what I needed,

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Dave. I need this from you. Wait, you have a

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brother that was in law enforcement. That's what

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perplexes me here. Like, why did you need me

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to come in here and answer these? You have a

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brother that was in a very busy, volatile police

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department. I'm going to tell you the reason.

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OK. He rolls his eyes and tells me to shut up.

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I feel like you won't do that to my face. You'll

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do that as you leave the door. But for video

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purposes, we would love to see it. So feel free

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to do it now. I am a walking hypochondriac for

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murder. Insert cricket sound bite here. I feel

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like somebody's constantly going to murder me.

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And I have these questions, these... It's actually

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we're gonna make it into a game but I have these

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questions for you to tell me if I'm being Irrational

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or this is actually something that I should that

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I am doing and I should continue to do Okay,

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so baseline before I even answer these questions.

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You're being irrational But that's you I knew

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that let's hear the specific questions. There

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might be something there might be some trauma

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unidentified trauma I listen to murder podcasts

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and watch murder shows to learn how to not get

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murdered. It's not working because I don't think

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you, I don't think you even know what shirt was

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Patty wearing? What color was it? C fit shirt,

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obviously black. That was a bad question. That's,

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that's most days. All right. Because you're the

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most amazing police officer I know. You just

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said you only know one. Answer my questions,

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Dave. This is called the segment of the podcast

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is the reason I wanted Dave to come on. This

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is I'm being completely honest here. It's called

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Carly's Corner, Smart or Stupid. I'm really feeling

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manipulated right now. I have to be honest with

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you. But let's talk about you. Why not? My bachelorette

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t -shirt was called it's all about me. Just bringing

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it back to information. I wish I knew before

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I came here today, but we should have provided

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shots. I actually have legit questions, but like

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that I want to know about police, but that we're

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going to get through this first. So you can,

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um, ease my fears. Okay. You have to tell me,

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is it smart or stupid? That I think there is

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a huge possibility my kids will get taken at

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the playground Yes, stupid, but increasingly

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a concern for the public. Stop it. No, no Well,

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look, I'm not here saying first of all this all

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anecdotally, right? I don't have numbers to say

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30 years of experience. I'm just saying it's

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it's probably more prevalent than when I started

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policing and By saying that I mean if it happens

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once a year, that's too much, right? But if you

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zoom out across the country, I mean, there's

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plenty of You know emotionally disturbed people

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Who may or may not be homeless or you know, what

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have you just people that have problems that

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may yeah, I mean It's more of an issue I'm not

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saying you should ignore your kids, you know

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and let them go to the park by themselves at

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a very young age But I am saying Be watchful,

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but not paranoid So you're stupid keep going

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You're leaning towards stupid You're leaning

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towards stupid on that one, but you know, but

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listen it's a concern for every mom so Thanks,

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Dave way to bring it back to smart to logic.

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All right Smarter stupid I call my kids different

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names at the grocery store. So no one will steal

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them. Yeah, that's stupid You do not do that.

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I used to do it when Melody and Louis were little.

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I would call them different names in case somebody

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in Target was like, come here, Melody. So I would

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call them different names. She would answer.

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She was little, two, three, and she didn't know.

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Stupid. I mean, look, I don't ever want to discourage

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anyone from making their kids safe. But you're

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with them. You're watching them. Stupid. This

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is the best day ever, keep going. I tuck my hair

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into my hat when I run so no one will grab my

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ponytail. Dave's looking at the floor. So you're

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thinking that, and I've seen you run, you run

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at a pretty good pace, so you're saying you're

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running the average criminal is going to be running

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behind you close enough to grab your ponytail

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and yank you. The criminal is also a marathon

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runner. So what you just said has something to

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do with my next one. So wait. That's stupid.

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Okay. Um, I feel, first of all, let me say, I

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feel really bad. Shoot. There's my only two options.

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Smarter, stupider. I can't go anywhere. No, no,

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no. There's no middle. There's no, I'm not black

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or white. I mean, I am black or white. Welcome

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to my life. So yeah. All right. So if we're going

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that way, that's stupid. Well, we'll allow that.

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So that my next one is never running around the

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neighborhood the same way twice. I always go

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in different routes because I feel like somebody's

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following me. Hence, they've seen me running.

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I gotta change my route. Or there's not many

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roads to run on. It's so stupid he can't remember

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I Feel no, no just I feel like I need to change

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my pattern so people don't follow me Okay smart

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that you're changing your pattern stupid that

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you think people are following you. It's a little

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egotistical to be honest And I suffer from this

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and it's probably probably from years of law

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enforcement that I feel like eyes are on me But

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I think that's a better reason than you have.

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I think you just think you're randomly going

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to be a victim. I'm a rando victim. I'm not like

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somebody planned it. Right. I want to be planned

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if I'm going to be one. Look, there's plenty

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of weirdos in this world. And unfortunately,

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there's probably more weirdos than people think

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there are, which is it's good that people don't

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know how many weirdos are out there. Yes. Especially

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for people like me. Right. But I would say that's

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stupid. Okay, when someone knocks on my door,

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I make my kids hide in their rooms and be silent.

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What? And I won't answer the door. Like if it's

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like a tree service or a Jehovah's Witness or

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I make the kids run in the room. Carly, you're

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instilling fear in your children for absolutely

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no reason. Stupid. Answer. My professional 30

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year in the police force opinion, stupid. I want

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Dave's answer. That's stupid. That is, that is

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stupid. I mean, you, you know, you want your,

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well, I mean, I'm not a parenting coach or anything

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like that, but I mean, you want your kids to

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be socially involved with, with people. With

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the tree service? I mean, it's not harmful. I

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don't know. What if he's saying he's from Pico

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and he's not, that happens. Right. Do you have

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an intercom you speak through or anything? No,

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I just run. So you can't see through the glass.

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She has ring doorbells that are still in the

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boxes, because God forbid she set them up. That's

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stupid. No, I mean, look, I get what you're saying.

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You know, you don't know who's on the other side

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of that door. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't give

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her anything. No, no. This is rough. How do you

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all tell you? This is rough for me. I hate going

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to extremes. Oh. Yeah. Well, I don't care. But

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if I have to lean one way or the other, I'm just

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going to give it to you. These are extreme. I

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feel like you're going to tell me that I'm smart,

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Dave. I really feel like this one is going to

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be a smart one. So far. So far. My track record

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is not going well. All right. When Victoria was

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dating, I would make her text me what restaurant,

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who the guy was, and what time they were going

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out in case she got murdered. Smart. See? Smart.

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Well, I mean. I could have told you that. I mean,

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I think it's just good to know her. I mean, you're

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preparing for her murder, though, so that's tending

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to, like, you know... Because if that's... That's

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tracking. Yeah. You know, the same way. But no,

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I think it's good that... That's tracking. But

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I think it's good to know where your loved one

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is with a stranger. Great. I have two more. I

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got one smart. Thanks, Dave. When I grocery shop

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at night, I dress as homely as possible with

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no makeup and a hat so no one follows me to my

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car. What I'm hearing about you and stores is

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that you think they are overpopulated with mass

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martyrs, psychotic human beings, and they're

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all just waiting in very public stores for you.

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That's what I'm hearing. That's an ego problem.

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Is it smart or stupid, Dave? Wait, wait, wait.

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I have another question. Do you normally dress

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up? Are you real fancy when you go to stores

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normally? So what's your... But I feel like...

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Like in my nice attire that I'm wearing right

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now. She's wearing Adidas swishy pants I would

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dress like really bad like really bad like you

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would not want me You don't want to steal me.

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That's how I would look at like 9 a .m. I'm not

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gonna dress like that see I'm seeing a common

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theme of paranoia here and I would say that's

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stupid I love that Davis, like, really, he believes

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in me that, like, I'm gonna say something smart,

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but he's disappointed in me because I don't think

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he believes in me. Okay. I mean, I'm having a

00:19:01.619 --> 00:19:03.339
hard time believing these are real things, but...

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No, no. These are things I've been waiting to

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ask a police officer. This is my last one. Go

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ahead, Dave. What were you gonna say? No. I was

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gonna say maybe it's not a police officer you

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should be talking to about this. Ring the bells!

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Ring the bells! Are you suggesting therapy for

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me, Dave? Because Victoria suggests it every

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day. Sure, let's go with that. That's what I'm

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saying. So you do watch the podcast. We talk

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about this all the time. I really need to know

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my last one. Having an in case I go missing file

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at home so people will know where to look, my

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passwords and my personal information and that

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it's probably not Andrew's fault is smart. not

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your husband's fault because you know police

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officers and like any homicide they always go

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to the husband first I want a file that says

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it's he didn't do it trust me don't don't even

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waste your time on him well I mean they could

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say that Andrew himself composed it oh but it

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would be my hand ready but to answer your question

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I think it's I think it's smart that people have

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all that readily available for their next of

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kin or their loved ones. I think it's good to

00:20:18.190 --> 00:20:20.650
have your passwords laying around because as

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someone who's gone through the death of a loved

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one where I was in charge of the estate, it's

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getting passwords, getting things reset, it's

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difficult. So yeah, you're better off having

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that somewhere. So that is smart? Smart. Ish.

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Smart -ish. Wait, we can't go, we're not going

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in the middle. We're black and white here. We're

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black and white. And I'm going to label it in

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case I go missing. Dot dot dot. Don't ask Andrew.

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It's a waste of time. Maybe you should just say

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important documents. Dave, listen, these are

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legit. I mean, there were three that I didn't

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even say because I know that you're going to

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think they're stupid, but I don't even care.

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This is how my mind works. I am constantly looking

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over my shoulder thinking like, who is it? Nobody

00:21:10.049 --> 00:21:12.269
cares about you that much. You told me that before.

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you know i have this saying look in the rear

00:21:14.859 --> 00:21:19.980
view mirror but don't stare that's a good one

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so it's it's okay for you to be aware of your

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surroundings and it's good for you to look back

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every once in a while but when you start to look

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too much and trust me i've kind of been in similar

00:21:29.259 --> 00:21:33.980
situations um you don't want to like you don't

00:21:33.980 --> 00:21:36.660
want to over project that idea that that's going

00:21:36.660 --> 00:21:38.779
to happen to you. Right. So like, when somebody

00:21:38.779 --> 00:21:40.400
comes up to my kids at the playground says you

00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.319
want to play hide and seek, I shouldn't say no,

00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:43.980
because they're human traffickers. Well, are

00:21:43.980 --> 00:21:46.579
they 45? Or are they nine years old? Well, no,

00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:48.539
but some nine years old trying to take them for

00:21:48.539 --> 00:21:52.339
the 45 in the bush. Oh, my God. No, it's like,

00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.920
that's an extreme, extreme idea. It doesn't happen

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in our town. In our town? Yeah. No. Oh, no. Why

00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:02.920
are you surprised? Great. I'm happy to hear it.

00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:06.299
I mean, listen, I As someone who thinks they've

00:22:06.299 --> 00:22:08.299
seen it all I experienced a lot of first -time

00:22:08.299 --> 00:22:11.380
things look at next last week. I know I've never

00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:15.099
seen that so you know, I can't tell you it's

00:22:15.099 --> 00:22:19.299
never gonna happen but You know law enforcement

00:22:19.299 --> 00:22:22.240
sort of like playing the odds, you know, like

00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:26.480
most times that's not gonna happen So it's you're

00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.319
telling me it's most of ninety nine point nine

00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.279
percent of this is in my head I would say so,

00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:34.079
yes. All right. That's all I needed to hear.

00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:38.299
I think it's a hundred. That tenth of a percent

00:22:38.299 --> 00:22:43.539
is too generous. I mean, look, we live in a tumultuous

00:22:43.539 --> 00:22:45.420
time. I mean, we probably live in the best time

00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:48.819
in history, but there's also a lot that goes

00:22:48.819 --> 00:22:51.240
along with that, right? A lot of online predators,

00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:55.220
a lot of... You know and certainly certain news

00:22:55.220 --> 00:22:57.460
agencies will make you very fearful of what's

00:22:57.460 --> 00:23:00.220
going on in the world and kind of really exaggerate

00:23:00.220 --> 00:23:03.140
use lots of hyperbole But I'm here to tell you

00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:05.319
I think most people are still good people. I

00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:08.140
mean majority after 30 years Yeah, most people

00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:11.500
are good people. Yeah, what makes you able to

00:23:11.500 --> 00:23:14.900
cross the street? You know without you don't

00:23:14.900 --> 00:23:16.619
think twice about someone coming and run you

00:23:16.619 --> 00:23:19.759
over you might look left or right and You know

00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.500
just even the simple things we do walking, you

00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:25.079
know, just around and a target or whatever, and

00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.119
no one's really hassling you. Most people are

00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:30.079
good people. Yeah, that's it's hard to think

00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:32.599
like that sometimes. It's very easy, actually.

00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:35.200
Oh, yeah, it's easy. And I have to think about

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:38.839
like that way more. Yes, because nothing's ever

00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:43.160
happened to you. No. All right, you had one stalker.

00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:47.819
Well, there you go. Once enough. Yeah, Dave.

00:23:48.059 --> 00:23:50.630
But what Do we want to get into circumstances

00:23:50.630 --> 00:23:54.549
or is that another podcast? She had a soccer

00:23:54.549 --> 00:23:56.470
her senior year of high school it was bad before

00:23:56.470 --> 00:24:00.049
phones really like the Nokia phone was the that

00:24:00.049 --> 00:24:03.630
was about the limit and it turned out to be a

00:24:03.630 --> 00:24:06.029
Girl she knew in the school and then the school

00:24:06.029 --> 00:24:07.910
kind of dropped the ball and didn't really take

00:24:07.910 --> 00:24:10.049
action even though the police were involved So

00:24:10.049 --> 00:24:13.160
there it was definitely a significant significant

00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.980
stalker case for upwards of the year all the

00:24:15.980 --> 00:24:18.359
whole year of senior year that the whole school

00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.279
is affected by it really. But yeah, no, she's

00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:24.019
never been to therapy. That's true. Yeah, correct.

00:24:24.299 --> 00:24:31.420
I do this every Tuesday. This podcast. That's

00:24:31.420 --> 00:24:34.140
my therapy. You see you just told all your stalkers

00:24:34.140 --> 00:24:44.200
where you're gonna be every Tuesday. No! We gotta

00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.599
change location. You gotta move. You gotta move.

00:24:48.779 --> 00:24:50.900
I hope you don't like it here. This is our last

00:24:50.900 --> 00:24:54.460
episode of Fit to Be Real. On a Tuesday. On a

00:24:54.460 --> 00:24:58.480
Tuesday morning. Thank you for stopping by. I

00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.440
learned nothing from these podcasts that I listen

00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:02.400
to about murder. Just dress homely, you'll be

00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:06.500
fine. Done. If Dave, if you follow me to my car

00:25:06.500 --> 00:25:08.960
when you see me, a giant at night, I swear to

00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:12.819
God. I will take my key out. Yeah. Yeah. Come

00:25:12.819 --> 00:25:15.119
free. Take your key out. Yeah. Cause I heard

00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.079
that's like the best way to. Well, maybe you

00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.160
should train with Dave. Dave is a, uh, you are

00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.259
also, do you still do jujitsu? No, not, not since

00:25:24.259 --> 00:25:32.539
I broke my back and see fit. Now we, uh, we do

00:25:32.539 --> 00:25:34.720
some training at the station and you know, I,

00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:38.460
I involve myself in that and um, You know certainly

00:25:38.460 --> 00:25:40.960
jiu -jitsu is something I recommend to everyone

00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.099
everyone that's interested in defending themselves

00:25:43.099 --> 00:25:46.160
or learning a sport I think the combination at

00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:50.759
jiu -jitsu and Muay Thai or American boxing Unbeatable

00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:54.180
for self -defense Really we have talked to you

00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:55.819
about this before it was probably over a year

00:25:55.819 --> 00:25:57.599
ago But we really now that we're gonna put it

00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.839
out there. We really want to have you in to teach

00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:05.259
a self -defense like masterclass Oh geez, I don't

00:26:05.259 --> 00:26:07.299
know if I'm teaching a master class, but we can

00:26:07.299 --> 00:26:11.059
certainly orchestrate it. Or like teach the person,

00:26:11.380 --> 00:26:13.920
like people like us, so I can walk out of the

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.779
grocery store. The homely, how to defend themselves.

00:26:16.980 --> 00:26:19.799
I really, like for as much as I'm scared and

00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.759
paranoid about it, I wouldn't know what to do

00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:26.799
if something happened. Yeah, I think, you know,

00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:30.440
and look there's a lot of great classes out there

00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.660
for especially aimed at women and self -defense

00:26:32.660 --> 00:26:34.759
and they're all great and I really don't have

00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.859
a problem with them well I do have a problem

00:26:36.859 --> 00:26:39.579
with them the problem is unless you're training

00:26:39.579 --> 00:26:42.059
them on a regular basis you are not going to

00:26:42.059 --> 00:26:44.160
going to remember what's taught in these classes

00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.000
panic sets in The chances of you remembering

00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.299
something that you learned two years prior in

00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:52.940
a self -defense class, it's kind of silly. Now,

00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:55.059
I'm not advocating that every woman go out and

00:26:55.059 --> 00:26:57.960
take, you know, jiu -jitsu or karate or American

00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.579
boxing or anything like that. But I think when

00:27:00.579 --> 00:27:03.240
you go into these classes, the reality is that

00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.700
if you took a self -defense class eight years

00:27:06.700 --> 00:27:09.920
ago, the chances of you remembering and or executing

00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.240
the move properly... Slim to none. That's very

00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:17.079
accurate. Yeah, it gives you a false sense of

00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:18.779
security. If anything else, like if you take

00:27:18.779 --> 00:27:21.640
one class, you think you can be in any situation.

00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.880
Okay, so there will not be a master class hosted

00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.279
by David. Well, there's just gonna have to be

00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.839
an asterisk next to it. Like, you know, you have

00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.039
to do this every, you know, couple weeks for

00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.259
you to really remember practice on your husband's

00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:37.819
daily, you know, or your boyfriend's. I love

00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.359
But Dave was like, no, that's actually not going

00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:42.460
to work. He's like, that's nice. That's not going

00:27:42.460 --> 00:27:44.400
to be helpful at all. And you're right. You're

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.599
definitely right. Because then even in moments

00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.500
that feel like a life or death situation, your

00:27:49.500 --> 00:27:51.420
brain just kind of panics and forgets everything.

00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:55.140
No, I think the better thing to do is call someone.

00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.220
If you're walking to your car in a dark parking

00:27:58.220 --> 00:27:59.579
lot at the end of the night, make sure you're

00:27:59.579 --> 00:28:01.140
on the phone with a loved one or someone that

00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:04.099
you know is awake or that you can wake up. And

00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:07.539
that's probably the best first line of self -defense.

00:28:08.059 --> 00:28:11.099
Like you said, making sure your sister knew you

00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:13.700
knew where your sister was on our dates. That's

00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:17.039
kind of probably the best line, the best first

00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:20.119
line of defense for a woman or for anyone to

00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:21.960
have somebody know where you are. Right. And

00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.059
to make your make yourself aware of your surroundings,

00:28:25.059 --> 00:28:29.920
as you clearly do. And he says with dead eyes

00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.259
straight to listen, I just think there's things

00:28:33.259 --> 00:28:35.579
you can do before you have to worry about, you

00:28:35.579 --> 00:28:38.569
know, punching somebody in the throat although

00:28:38.569 --> 00:28:41.769
I do advocate that and other areas on male attackers

00:28:41.769 --> 00:28:44.609
yeah that's what the keys for she wants to put

00:28:44.609 --> 00:28:46.490
it in her knuckle I don't know what she's opening

00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:50.950
with that key but listen this is coming from

00:28:50.950 --> 00:28:55.829
our mother who you know you know who what was

00:28:55.829 --> 00:28:59.069
it called that was on our key a kubiton right

00:28:59.069 --> 00:29:02.789
oh really she she has one still on her keychain

00:29:03.380 --> 00:29:05.579
Wow, a little coup of time is black. It's now

00:29:05.579 --> 00:29:07.400
silver because it's completely chipped all of

00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.700
its paint for the past 40 years. Uh, but she

00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:11.920
didn't know what to do with it. She just had

00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:13.640
it. She was like, it's my defense. This is what

00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:15.460
you're going to do. She would wave it like a

00:29:15.460 --> 00:29:17.119
wand. You're probably going to end up hurting

00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.599
yourself. Exactly. Exactly. With all due respect

00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.980
to mom, who I love. Well, you also know that

00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:25.640
she'd be the first one to hurt herself. So I

00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.450
have run and videoed as I was running, telling

00:29:30.450 --> 00:29:33.289
Victoria, if I don't make it, this is where I

00:29:33.289 --> 00:29:37.769
am. And broad daylight. Stupid. I mean, oh wait,

00:29:37.869 --> 00:29:39.430
are we still playing? I thought we were still

00:29:39.430 --> 00:29:45.630
playing that game. Are we still playing the game?

00:29:46.069 --> 00:29:47.990
I thought we were still. Ten years from now,

00:29:48.049 --> 00:29:49.130
Dave. I'm going to say something. Dave's going

00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:51.190
to be like, stupid. Like, we're not playing anymore,

00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:53.970
Dave. The game is over. It's never over. No,

00:29:53.970 --> 00:29:56.390
I mean, you know, where are you running exactly

00:29:56.390 --> 00:29:58.670
anyway? Are you running in North Philadelphia?

00:29:59.329 --> 00:30:02.130
Around the police station where she lives next

00:30:02.130 --> 00:30:04.049
to the police station. I mean, I think again,

00:30:04.130 --> 00:30:05.890
I think it's great that you're being aware of

00:30:05.890 --> 00:30:07.849
your surroundings and people around you. And

00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:09.849
I think that's, that's all wonderful stuff. I

00:30:09.849 --> 00:30:12.630
think, you know, but you may be creating somewhat

00:30:12.630 --> 00:30:14.809
of a false illusion that, you know, there's so

00:30:14.809 --> 00:30:17.329
many people coming to get you on a daily basis.

00:30:17.970 --> 00:30:22.049
Um, it just, you know, I'm going to stop talking

00:30:22.049 --> 00:30:26.070
now because someone's giving me the finger. No,

00:30:26.070 --> 00:30:27.769
you're right, Dave. I know you're right. And

00:30:27.769 --> 00:30:31.130
I wanted you to tell me that exactly what you

00:30:31.130 --> 00:30:33.289
said I wanted you to tell me for her to ignore

00:30:33.289 --> 00:30:36.069
it. But you know, it also is easy for me to say

00:30:36.069 --> 00:30:39.329
that right as someone as a man with, you know,

00:30:39.650 --> 00:30:42.150
a larger frame, I'll say, maybe slightly out

00:30:42.150 --> 00:30:45.470
of shape. It's easy for me to say I mean, I'm

00:30:45.470 --> 00:30:48.210
not in your position, you know, I mean, no, nobody

00:30:48.210 --> 00:30:50.089
I have a lot of respect for, you know, women

00:30:50.089 --> 00:30:51.950
that are going out there and doing that, especially

00:30:51.950 --> 00:30:53.250
like late at night, they're out there running

00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:56.059
and hey, you know, more power to you. It's just

00:30:56.059 --> 00:30:57.859
make sure you're aware of your surroundings.

00:30:57.980 --> 00:30:59.779
Well, I do have a couple of questions that are

00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:02.519
legit that aren't. We'll be the judge of that.

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:08.299
This is not smart or stupid. Forever you will

00:31:08.299 --> 00:31:11.019
play that game. Just talking to her. I know this

00:31:11.019 --> 00:31:13.940
is a serious question that I have. If I don't

00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:17.960
know if it's a true emergency, but I don't want

00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.049
to bother 911, who do I call? 9 -1 -1 okay this

00:31:22.049 --> 00:31:25.849
is stupid yeah unfortunately 9 -1 -1 came about

00:31:25.849 --> 00:31:28.349
when we were younger you guys were younger and

00:31:28.349 --> 00:31:31.549
it was always call 9 -1 -1 an emergency and a

00:31:31.549 --> 00:31:33.490
lot of police departments back then had a non

00:31:33.490 --> 00:31:35.769
-emergency number now especially in Delaware

00:31:35.769 --> 00:31:39.470
County there's usually not someone answering

00:31:39.470 --> 00:31:41.730
the phone at a station if you called a non -emergency

00:31:41.730 --> 00:31:45.539
right every call gets dispatched in Delaware

00:31:45.539 --> 00:31:48.099
County through 9 -1 -1. So if you want a police

00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:50.339
officer to come to your door, regardless of what

00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:53.359
it is, you should call 9 -1 -1. One of my pet

00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.740
peeves, people do not call because they don't

00:31:56.740 --> 00:32:00.359
want to quote unquote bother us. It is so that

00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.319
stupid. Yeah, like literally just said, I don't

00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.900
want to bother 9 -1 -1 if I'm like, I saw someone

00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:06.579
looking at my neighbor's window, but I didn't

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:08.420
want to be paranoid and I didn't want to bother

00:32:08.420 --> 00:32:10.599
you. So I didn't call. I mean, I've never heard

00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.380
someone say Shouldn't have called 9 -1 -1. I

00:32:13.380 --> 00:32:15.220
always hear them say I should have called. Yeah,

00:32:15.220 --> 00:32:17.460
that's true. You're right. Good answer Dave.

00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.559
I like that answer I also didn't know that so

00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.299
like it all every call goes through from any

00:32:22.299 --> 00:32:25.400
town in Delaware County goes through one Central

00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.200
place in media and it gets dispatched that police

00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.440
department that you're calling that area you're

00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.940
calling from So that's how you get a cop to your

00:32:33.940 --> 00:32:37.160
door. Okay I'll do that. If you want to make

00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.180
a report to a police officer about something

00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:41.559
that's a non -emergency, I guess you could go

00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:44.259
to the station and just walk in and file a report.

00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.220
Could I text you? Sure. Oh, stupid. Sure, why

00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:52.680
not? David's just going to text me back. Stupid.

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.460
Okay, hold on. These are actual questions that

00:32:57.460 --> 00:33:00.920
I have asked people what you want to know. I

00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.359
don't know if you can answer this though. Let's

00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:06.359
try it. All right. What are the most common crimes

00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:12.000
in our area? And how do we protect? One at a

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.539
time, one at a time. What are some of the most

00:33:14.539 --> 00:33:16.880
common crimes in our area? What should we be

00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:22.160
looking out for? So the most common crimes, let

00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:23.980
me see, there's crimes and there's incidents,

00:33:24.220 --> 00:33:27.099
right? So we go to a lot of neighbor complaints,

00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.529
lots of neighbor, people can't. or have a hard

00:33:29.529 --> 00:33:32.269
time coexisting with their neighbors. A lot of

00:33:32.269 --> 00:33:35.430
retail thefts in different areas. A lot of shoplifting

00:33:35.430 --> 00:33:40.589
going on especially right now. Domestics. We're

00:33:40.589 --> 00:33:43.329
always going to someone's home to like try and

00:33:43.329 --> 00:33:45.009
solve a problem that's been building up for the

00:33:45.009 --> 00:33:47.250
last 20 years and we're supposed to solve it.

00:33:47.250 --> 00:33:52.769
The problem in 10 -15 minutes. So those I think,

00:33:52.990 --> 00:33:55.869
in my opinion, neighbor complaints I'll kind

00:33:55.869 --> 00:34:00.160
of... I'll kind of lump that in with noise complaints,

00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.960
things like that. He's cutting his lawn too early

00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.039
in the morning. He's playing his music too loud

00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:07.279
in apartments. Don't call the police for that?

00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:09.599
Oh, 100. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Absolutely. People

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.679
call for. Yeah. I've gotten noise ordinance.

00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:13.320
But it's OK. That's how we get out there. Right.

00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:15.920
And you're right. So those would, in my mind,

00:34:16.019 --> 00:34:18.539
and I'm kind of just spitballing, those would

00:34:18.539 --> 00:34:21.179
be the big three for me. In our area. So it's

00:34:21.179 --> 00:34:24.030
not human trafficking. That human trafficking

00:34:24.030 --> 00:34:28.710
isn't probably even in the top 50. Okay Great.

00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:33.389
Okay Love it. You already answered this one.

00:34:33.409 --> 00:34:35.150
What is a good safety tip when you're walking

00:34:35.150 --> 00:34:40.610
alone? He did that one and oh Not excluding cameras

00:34:40.610 --> 00:34:43.730
because everybody has a ring camera except me

00:34:43.730 --> 00:34:46.630
and me which I just told my stalker about What

00:34:46.630 --> 00:34:49.829
are the best ways to make your house like less

00:34:49.829 --> 00:34:53.429
of a target? For like burglars and stuff. So

00:34:53.429 --> 00:34:55.869
I mean any home is potentially a target, right?

00:34:55.989 --> 00:34:59.070
I mean um But you know having timers on your

00:34:59.070 --> 00:35:02.849
lights Making sure you give the illusion that

00:35:02.849 --> 00:35:05.190
someone is home or at least nearby And I think

00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:07.829
an important thing people often overlook is your

00:35:07.829 --> 00:35:09.409
dependence on your neighbors, right? That's why

00:35:09.409 --> 00:35:11.489
it's important to have relationships with your

00:35:11.489 --> 00:35:13.610
neighbors. They you know, if you let them know

00:35:13.610 --> 00:35:17.389
when you're not there Even if it's saying something

00:35:17.389 --> 00:35:19.289
simple like hey, I'm running the target you need

00:35:19.289 --> 00:35:21.349
anything so they know you're not going to be

00:35:21.349 --> 00:35:23.769
there That's something I would do. Yeah. Oh jeez.

00:35:23.889 --> 00:35:25.429
I'd be like, I'm gonna tell all the sudden that

00:35:25.429 --> 00:35:29.449
sounds silly now No, but you know, I think you

00:35:29.449 --> 00:35:32.030
know incorporating your neighbors in your routine

00:35:32.030 --> 00:35:34.190
and letting them know where you are So to speak

00:35:34.190 --> 00:35:37.750
especially on vacation. It's an extra set eyes

00:35:37.750 --> 00:35:41.010
and those neighbors will Look for you. I have

00:35:41.010 --> 00:35:44.630
found. Yeah, so I think timers for your lights

00:35:46.909 --> 00:35:49.090
Having people come check in on your house once

00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:52.289
in a while. Yeah, my mom has a really good neighborhood

00:35:52.289 --> 00:35:56.789
for that Do you know your neighbors? No If someone

00:35:56.789 --> 00:35:58.590
wants to break into a home, they're getting into

00:35:58.590 --> 00:36:00.889
the home Okay, I mean there's really no way around

00:36:00.889 --> 00:36:02.730
that but I think we're getting back to the most

00:36:02.730 --> 00:36:04.670
people are good kind of thing We don't have a

00:36:04.670 --> 00:36:09.550
bunch of serial burglars And in my experience,

00:36:09.869 --> 00:36:13.429
burglary has become less and less a crime in

00:36:13.429 --> 00:36:16.969
our area. It used to be really prevalent when

00:36:16.969 --> 00:36:18.809
I first started. When I was a rookie detective,

00:36:19.369 --> 00:36:21.250
I mean, we were going to two or three burglaries

00:36:21.250 --> 00:36:24.849
a day. And it's just really not worth it. Their

00:36:24.849 --> 00:36:27.650
time for a burglar to break into someone's house

00:36:27.650 --> 00:36:30.269
take your jewelry try to sell it somewhere Then

00:36:30.269 --> 00:36:31.789
they have to give their name to the person they're

00:36:31.789 --> 00:36:33.989
selling the jewelry to if it's you know, legit

00:36:33.989 --> 00:36:37.030
place There's a lot that goes into breaking someone's

00:36:37.030 --> 00:36:38.949
house. It's not just a matter of like selling

00:36:38.949 --> 00:36:41.969
it on the black market, you know, like The Delco

00:36:41.969 --> 00:36:44.650
black market wherever that might be So I think

00:36:44.650 --> 00:36:47.190
there's there's simpler crimes that people commit

00:36:47.190 --> 00:36:49.309
that aren't that don't have the punishment that

00:36:49.309 --> 00:36:53.010
burglary has Last summer going down the shore

00:36:53.010 --> 00:36:56.960
Carmela Carmela. She hid some of her jewelry

00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.579
because she was afraid of burglars for the first

00:36:59.579 --> 00:37:02.219
time ever. She was afraid for some reason that

00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:04.920
this vacation, burglars were going to come to

00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.320
the house. She can't find any of it. She burglarized

00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.780
herself. She cannot find where she hid in the

00:37:10.780 --> 00:37:13.199
very special hiding spots, all of her jewelry,

00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:15.039
and she's still looking for them. This explains

00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.179
a lot with someone else that's sitting on the

00:37:17.179 --> 00:37:22.159
counter. Patty? Patty? Patty? How you doing over

00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:27.019
there, Patty? My last one would you enjoy your

00:37:27.019 --> 00:37:35.179
ride along with me? In the police car Yeah, no,

00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.300
I think that would be enjoyable and I think would

00:37:37.300 --> 00:37:39.619
help put your mind at ease too I think so too.

00:37:39.699 --> 00:37:44.000
I think you need therapy afterwards though Maybe

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.820
yeah, I mean, I think I faced worse, but I mean

00:37:46.820 --> 00:37:49.739
sure. Let's give it a whirl He thinks in 30 years.

00:37:49.739 --> 00:37:53.880
He thinks he has faced worse I know I face worse,

00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.340
but this might be up there. All right, Dave.

00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:00.699
I put it out there. I'll text you. Stupid. All

00:38:00.699 --> 00:38:03.840
right. Lastly, we want to get to know Dave Madonna

00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.119
really quickly before we let him go because he

00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.659
is a police officer and he is not patrolling

00:38:08.659 --> 00:38:10.300
the streets right now. And we took him away from

00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:12.579
that. So would you don't patrol the streets anymore?

00:38:13.099 --> 00:38:14.980
You're a detective. Well, I mean, I still go

00:38:14.980 --> 00:38:16.900
out. I mean, I'm in a small community, so I still.

00:38:17.289 --> 00:38:19.530
You know, I think it's really incumbent upon

00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:21.929
any chief to really get out there and be involved

00:38:21.929 --> 00:38:24.090
in your community immerse yourself, you know

00:38:24.090 --> 00:38:27.309
driving around Talking to people waving to people.

00:38:27.309 --> 00:38:30.050
I think that's huge for police officers anywhere,

00:38:30.269 --> 00:38:32.449
but especially a chief I think you really need

00:38:32.449 --> 00:38:35.340
to know your community and So wait, what was

00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:37.300
the question? No, I just don't know if you were

00:38:37.300 --> 00:38:39.880
in the car anymore. No, I get in the car. I mean,

00:38:39.940 --> 00:38:41.800
listen, I have administrative stuff I have to

00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.360
do. There's reports that the state and the FBI

00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.000
need monthly. There's payroll. There's all kinds

00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.000
of like silly stuff I have to do, create policy.

00:38:50.820 --> 00:38:53.199
But yeah, no, I try to get out almost every day

00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.840
and just make sure the community sees me. I see

00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.039
the community. Yeah, I'll give you my house number.

00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:02.119
I couldn't even tell you. The police in Springfield.

00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:07.179
Like, I actually don't know. No, I see them all

00:39:07.179 --> 00:39:10.280
the time. Yeah, we know. We know. You're looking

00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.599
for them. We're aware. We're aware. All right.

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.760
Do your game. I chose my house in, you know,

00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.440
the area of the police. So this is called, it's

00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.019
rapid fire. It needs to be really fast, Dave.

00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:26.880
No thinking. No thinking. This is all about you.

00:39:26.940 --> 00:39:30.340
We want to know. Would you wanna with Officer

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:37.039
Madonna? Mountains or beach? Beach. Going out

00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:41.320
or staying home? Staying home. Rapid fire, Dave.

00:39:41.659 --> 00:39:44.440
Staying home. A drama movie or a comedy movie?

00:39:44.579 --> 00:39:48.380
Comedy. Christmas or Halloween? Christmas. Oh,

00:39:48.659 --> 00:39:50.719
he said Christmas. Hardcore Christmas. Hardcore

00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:55.039
Christmas. Love it. Hort. Hort. Long run or long

00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.739
walk? Walk. Yeah, you have a broken back. Snowy

00:39:59.739 --> 00:40:03.409
day or beach day? Beach day. Coffee or tea? Coffee.

00:40:03.829 --> 00:40:07.789
Pop music or country music? Oh, I hate them both.

00:40:08.469 --> 00:40:12.230
That could be your answer. No, all right. A yoga

00:40:12.230 --> 00:40:15.010
class or a kickboxing class? Now it would be

00:40:15.010 --> 00:40:18.250
yoga. Yeah. Eh, yoga. Yeah. Movies in theater,

00:40:18.329 --> 00:40:21.789
movies at home? Home. Why? Because theaters are

00:40:21.789 --> 00:40:24.170
dangerous? Just asking. I was asking for a friend.

00:40:24.329 --> 00:40:26.829
Is that rapid fire? No. Can I think about this

00:40:26.829 --> 00:40:30.690
one? That's so stupid. Stupid. Vacation abroad

00:40:30.690 --> 00:40:33.599
or a staycation at home? Abroad. Yeah, there's

00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.300
the same question in different forms. Sweet or

00:40:36.300 --> 00:40:46.719
salty? Sweet. Lacomte or lacomte? I love Mike.

00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.039
So lacomte. Dogs or cats? Dogs. Carly or Victoria?

00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:01.519
Victoria. You would know that if you listen to

00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.760
the damn podcast team. No one ever did. If you

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.800
didn't ask me so many stupid questions, I would

00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:11.679
have went with you maybe. I can't end the podcast

00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.940
any better. That was the best ending. Oh my God.

00:41:14.099 --> 00:41:16.920
People have said Pepper. People have said Carmella.

00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.579
People have said a Monday. Like I pick a Monday

00:41:21.579 --> 00:41:26.079
over. This is history. This is history in the

00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.519
making. The first actual choice. I did this to

00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.980
myself. I know I did. But you know what? As his

00:41:32.980 --> 00:41:34.639
consequence, I'm going to go on a ride along

00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.980
with him and he has to deal with me. During a

00:41:37.980 --> 00:41:40.460
like a homicide if she never comes back. It's

00:41:40.460 --> 00:41:42.860
okay. Can you imagine? I left her somewhere without

00:41:42.860 --> 00:41:45.519
her cell phone in the middle of a Neighborhood

00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.480
she's not familiar with. I want to see what happens

00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.780
there. Oh my god. I I this would be a great human

00:41:51.780 --> 00:41:56.099
behavior study At the expense of the people of

00:41:56.099 --> 00:42:02.440
Prospect Park Taxpayers money, dude. Oh My god,

00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:05.599
I'm like crying. This is the best Tuesday I've

00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:11.670
ever had It's no longer on Tuesdays It's gonna

00:42:11.670 --> 00:42:14.150
be she's gonna just do that mind game, you know,

00:42:14.349 --> 00:42:16.929
we're talking me on Tuesdays, but it is oh My

00:42:16.929 --> 00:42:18.469
god, I cannot believe you said a name. That was

00:42:18.469 --> 00:42:21.130
amazing. You said the wrong one, but whatever

00:42:21.130 --> 00:42:27.389
well Thank you. Thank you Before we before we

00:42:27.389 --> 00:42:30.170
leave we're gonna do a little teaser that there's

00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:33.719
gonna be a new podcast In the making, at some

00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.219
point in the future soon that Dave is going to

00:42:36.219 --> 00:42:39.480
host, it sounds amazing. Do you want to give

00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:41.679
a little bit about what you're thinking or the

00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.300
title of it at least to look out for? Well, first

00:42:43.300 --> 00:42:45.760
of all, I have to buy all the equipment. It's

00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.059
the beginning. Let's get there. We're very early

00:42:48.059 --> 00:42:50.599
stages, but, um, yeah, it's something that, you

00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.719
know, I've, I've talked about before and Patty

00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.650
and I have discussed it and, uh, you know, Close

00:42:56.650 --> 00:42:58.389
to 30 years of law enforcement, there's a lot

00:42:58.389 --> 00:43:01.230
to talk about, but not just about law enforcement.

00:43:01.369 --> 00:43:04.630
There's so many things that go into running a

00:43:04.630 --> 00:43:07.150
police department or having relationships with,

00:43:07.150 --> 00:43:10.409
you know, district attorney's office, the media.

00:43:10.670 --> 00:43:13.610
So there's a whole lot that goes into, you know,

00:43:13.889 --> 00:43:16.690
the operation of policing. So yeah, it's something

00:43:16.690 --> 00:43:19.820
I'd like to explore. Yeah. And Dave, we were

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:22.300
talking about this a little while ago, and I

00:43:22.300 --> 00:43:24.900
got so excited because for somebody like me,

00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.000
that is something I would listen to because I

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.260
want to know. I love the ins and outs of all

00:43:30.260 --> 00:43:32.239
that kind of stuff. And I also would want to

00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.400
get information that might help me on my daily

00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.380
walks to not be so fearful. But you can't ignore

00:43:38.380 --> 00:43:40.840
the information you're receiving. You have to

00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.909
believe it. I'm excited for Dave's podcast. You

00:43:44.909 --> 00:43:47.570
know, I often tell my boys life's about relationships

00:43:47.570 --> 00:43:50.909
and I think that's one of the things in law enforcement

00:43:50.909 --> 00:43:53.090
that a lot of cops even don't really understand

00:43:53.090 --> 00:43:54.670
that you get to a certain point in your career

00:43:54.670 --> 00:43:57.809
is you make so many relationships the people

00:43:57.809 --> 00:44:01.469
you serve politicians District Attorney's office

00:44:01.469 --> 00:44:03.789
members of the media There's so many people that

00:44:03.789 --> 00:44:06.530
go involved into making your career what it is

00:44:06.530 --> 00:44:08.590
and it's often overlooked You don't think about

00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:10.590
it as it's happening. But when you sit back and

00:44:10.590 --> 00:44:13.039
look at it You get to know a lot of people in

00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.119
this career. And you have 30 years of people

00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:18.420
that you've met. I can't believe it. I just can't

00:44:18.420 --> 00:44:23.079
believe it. It really blows my mind. You've seen

00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.139
a lot. It just seems like yesterday I started.

00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.000
Yeah. Well, that's good. That means you enjoy

00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.059
your job. I mean, you don't, I'm sure, enjoy

00:44:30.059 --> 00:44:32.420
every day, but. No, there's been days that I

00:44:32.420 --> 00:44:35.800
could have avoided. Yeah. But I mean, for 30

00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:43.380
years. Same. You know You know you think about

00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:46.019
the amount of mistakes you make too to get to

00:44:46.019 --> 00:44:48.079
this point in your career like I'm still making

00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.099
mistakes and I'm still trying to learn from them

00:44:50.099 --> 00:44:55.340
and So, you know With all humbleness I tell you

00:44:55.340 --> 00:44:58.539
that like it's been so rewarding for me the highs

00:44:58.539 --> 00:45:01.000
and lows you put them all together and here I

00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:05.800
am and So very happy Dave, we love you. Thanks.

00:45:05.860 --> 00:45:07.780
I love you guys, too. She even said that after

00:45:07.780 --> 00:45:09.480
you didn't say her name. Victoria a little bit

00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.579
more today, perhaps. Damn it. I was going to

00:45:12.579 --> 00:45:18.659
say. Truly, thank you for taking the time out

00:45:18.659 --> 00:45:21.559
today. This is the first in my career, a fitness

00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:26.300
podcast. I mean, I had a weird week, TMZ, People

00:45:26.300 --> 00:45:31.510
Magazine, and now a local fitness podcast. All

00:45:31.510 --> 00:45:33.590
talking about the Delco Pooper? Is that why?

00:45:33.730 --> 00:45:36.690
We are, in fact. We can end the podcast. We don't

00:45:36.690 --> 00:45:38.429
have to talk about it. We don't have to talk

00:45:38.429 --> 00:45:39.769
about it. Unless you really want to. No, no,

00:45:39.769 --> 00:45:41.849
no. We don't want to. But that is what he's been

00:45:41.849 --> 00:45:44.909
referencing to the recent events. Rapid Fire,

00:45:45.190 --> 00:45:48.630
which was the best? TMZ, People, or this fitness

00:45:48.630 --> 00:45:49.769
podcast where we didn't talk about fitness? This

00:45:49.769 --> 00:45:54.530
fitness podcast. Hands down. Obviously. obviously

00:45:54.530 --> 00:45:57.250
it's fitness life wellness just like functioning

00:45:57.250 --> 00:45:59.230
podcast oh I mean I listen to it every week so

00:45:59.230 --> 00:46:01.630
I know what you mean yeah we know we know you've

00:46:01.630 --> 00:46:05.809
proved that thank you thank you ah well thank

00:46:05.809 --> 00:46:08.590
truly thank you this has been super informational

00:46:08.590 --> 00:46:13.550
thank you for easing some of thank you for responding

00:46:13.550 --> 00:46:24.050
to her that did not happen and definitely we

00:46:24.050 --> 00:46:26.889
will we will keep plugging and promoting as this

00:46:26.889 --> 00:46:30.030
podcast comes to be okay yeah so that we can

00:46:30.030 --> 00:46:34.889
all tune in and if you want a like local mom

00:46:34.889 --> 00:46:38.469
in the area to interview and ask like what their

00:46:38.469 --> 00:46:42.309
fears are find one somewhere else I think I know

00:46:42.309 --> 00:46:44.650
exactly where to go I might have been at her

00:46:44.650 --> 00:46:50.219
house recently with that said remember You are

00:46:50.219 --> 00:46:53.300
always fit to be real and always allowed to be

00:46:53.300 --> 00:47:08.780
a little extra. Done. For legal reasons, we have

00:47:08.780 --> 00:47:10.820
to tell you that this podcast is meant for entertainment

00:47:10.820 --> 00:47:13.860
and educational purposes. Only we are not healthcare

00:47:13.860 --> 00:47:16.260
professionals. For all of your health, wellness,

00:47:16.500 --> 00:47:18.679
fitness, and self -care needs, please refer to

00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:21.179
the medical professional in your life. Your primary

00:47:21.179 --> 00:47:23.880
care physician, your therapist, a certified coach,

00:47:24.179 --> 00:47:26.539
whoever it may be. And then let us know what

00:47:26.539 --> 00:47:28.900
they say because I guarantee we need to know

00:47:28.900 --> 00:47:31.920
it too. Okay? Okay, bye.
