Welcome to Fit to Be Real and a little extra.
How much did you enjoy the episode last week?
You know, just a little intro into our family dynamic,
which you've heard before, he's been on before,
but we had him in the flesh the other day.
But to be as real as we possibly can on this Fit to Be Real podcast,
it was like the week from schedule hell.
Like hell.
Everything just kept going wrong.
Like I got sick.
That was the first thing.
You know, I was so annoying.
It was well, it was our day to record.
And there's no way nobody should have listened to me sound
the way that I sounded.
So we canceled that.
We aimed for Wednesday.
And then Kuka got attacked.
But Carly's dog got attacked by another dog
and it was a brutal attack.
So it was a big deal and it was rough.
So, but that, you know, should have been a lighter day
because it was the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
But it ended up just being, we had guests coming in.
It was wild.
I mean, it was a wild time.
Yes, it was wild.
Thanksgiving was jam packed.
The moment we taught in the morning all the way
until, you know, the end of the night from 5.30 AM to midnight.
Thank you for your time frame.
You're welcome.
And then Friday, we still had guests
and it was scheduled and it was wild Saturday.
Same thing.
I had my high school reunion that I planned.
Carly had a high school reunion Friday at 20 years.
She's so old.
I know.
20 years Friday night that she was in charge of
for two whole months.
And listen, I love a cram.
You guys all know I love to cram.
And what's better than starting a 20 year reunion
two months ahead of time.
And then getting sick.
Yes.
Because then Carly started getting sick on Friday.
Saturday got sicker, but Carly had a cabaret
Saturday night she had to sing.
So it was a day of stress.
Yes.
I think my dad and Victoria want me to go back
into retirement simply because of the stress
that singing brings.
Well, the best was it was like, Carly, do this.
Try this.
She's like, yeah, yeah, I will.
Yeah, yeah, I will.
But like you didn't do anything proactive for yourself.
But that's how I am.
Oh, that is annoying.
That's how I've always been.
But I literally texted dad first thing in the morning
after, before class.
I was like, dad, I can't do this.
Like my voice is shot from not sleeping for five days,
talking over loud music at a reunion, teaching.
And then I said, hey, Carly, just don't do it.
Like it's okay.
The world will turn.
Things will be all right.
No, people were counting on me.
I would never let somebody else down.
And I was singing a duet.
And she sang in other things, her partner.
So it was in any case, Carly's knowing.
And then Sunday was another whirlwind, but we crammed it in.
Crammed it in last minute.
I was very prepared Sunday night to record by myself
for the first time and be like, this is what happens.
And Carly was like, nope, coming over now with Billy.
This is what we're doing.
Hurry up, set up.
I was like, ah.
Billy was like, we have two hours before the Eagles game.
Let's go.
It was wild.
So that's about as real as it gets.
Here's what we're talking about today.
In my sickness, I watched a lot of television,
but I love a documentary.
So I watched a brand new documentary on Netflix.
It's called, by now, the shopping conspiracy.
You know, I love to shop and about to ruin your day.
I didn't know what it was gonna be about.
And it's something I can't stop thinking about.
You can't unsee it.
I can't unsee it.
I can't unhear it.
And I'm gonna rattle off and give you kind of a synopsis.
You still should watch this documentary.
The visuals that they give you help with the numbers,
because the numbers are so big that it's hard to find them.
You can't even really understand.
Like what's a billion?
Who knows?
And hopefully if one person makes some changes
in their behavior going forward,
i.e. Carly's kind of a patient zero,
so hopefully she's one of the people that does it.
I'm patient zero.
Then it hopefully will make some changes in the world.
So let's get into it.
It is interesting.
I actually have zero patients.
I'm Victoria.
Hey guys, I'm Carly.
And I'm about to ruin Carly's day.
I am a shopper.
That's what I do.
It's what I love.
I shop till I drop.
That phrase was named for me.
What if I told you that your shopping is the reason
your children in 2050 may not be alive?
I'm not gonna say that.
I'm not gonna be alive.
That's unfair.
It's unfair.
Their death or your needs
not being met if you make some changes.
That's unfair.
All right, so already you probably turned it off
because that seems to doom gloom.
However, it's super super informative
so we know.
We know but some of you may not know
or not choose to believe
But Carly and I sit here knowing that global warming is a thing.
Yeah.
How we know that is all of our seasons are shiitakeyed.
Confused.
Very good.
Thank you.
Very confused.
We haven't had a snow in a winter month in how many years?
I know.
Snow.
The kids just asked, do you think we'll get our snow suits out?
It snowed one time we went sledding last year, but that's it.
We had one snow day.
That was it.
But growing up, don't you remember it was like the Blizzard of 96?
But also all the time.
Not just one in the winter.
We got a few.
Yeah.
And it was every year.
Yeah.
Having sleds was not a waste of space in the garage.
Having gloves and we had a whole snow suit and all the things.
Now it's, do we really need it?
So whatever your global warming beliefs are, it's a thing.
So believe it or not, shopping is one of the biggest reasons global warming is accelerating
and the world is getting scarier.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So they break it down into four, they do it as if four rules of being a corporation.
So there's a narrator who's talking to you as if you are being hired by this big corporation
and they're going to teach you how to make more, sell more, get more money.
Is it Morgan Freeman?
No, it's like a robe.
It's like Siri.
Ah, darn it.
They break it down.
Sell more is rule number one.
Waste more is rule number two.
Lie more is rule number three.
And hide more is rule number four.
So this is sarcastic.
Yes.
Okay.
It took me a second with the narration for it to be, I was like, wait, what?
And then it made sense.
In my kids' words, this is sarcasm.
Yes, it's sarcasm.
So sell more is number one and they just tell you the numbers.
And so stores make new, you know how you go into the clearance rack and you're like,
oh my God, there's so much on sale and there's so many new things on the shelves.
And sometimes I'm like, but where does it all go?
Like what do you do with the old stuff?
Like Lululemon says that we made too much.
Yes, that's their clearance.
Yeah.
Well, it's because like Gap makes 12,000 new items per year to sell.
12,000 items.
That's whatever Gap makes, belts, clothes, products.
New items.
Yes.
12,000 in 365 days.
Yeah.
H&M makes 25,000 in 365 days.
Zara makes 36,000.
Yeah.
Sheen, 1.3 million items in one year.
That makes sense.
Because it's all trash.
It's all trash.
100 billion items a year, meaning fabrics, plastics, metals are created in the garment
and industry alone.
So in those types of stores, in fashion, in where you're going to go to the mall, 100
billion.
So this is where the visual of the documentary helps because they do it in like, yeah, and
a way where you're like, oh my God.
So then they're like, okay, cool, we made all of these clothes.
Now what?
How do we get them out there?
And a lot of it was interviews with previous Amazon employees and they have since left,
but they're the one that you're talking to.
And there was one woman who was the originator.
I didn't even remember Amazon before, like what it looks like now.
Yeah, no, I just know Amazon as it is today.
So at the very beginning, it was as primitive as you can possibly imagine.
So she was a coder and was in charge of so many departments of Amazon and trying to figure
out how to make things easy for people and then created the buy and one click marketing
scheme.
Oh.
Because that's what the button used to say, buy and one click.
Buy, yeah.
Like I can do this in one click.
That's how easy it is.
And then that's how every store does their online stuff.
One click and you got whatever you want in your cart and all that stuff.
So she was like, yeah, we were making futuristic things and we were like, oh my God, this is
amazing.
And she was talking about Jeff Bezos and they showed him the very beginning.
He looked super normal and he was like a great boss in the sense that he was always asking
for more and being like, cool, well now what can you do?
You're doing great.
So she said they were creating all these things and things were getting easier for people
to do and they were creating more revenue and she was like, nobody was thinking of the
end game.
Nobody was thinking.
Nobody thinks of that.
Nobody ever.
In every industry, nobody thinks of actually what's going to happen 50 years down the line.
That's the problem we're having.
Exactly.
So they were like, all they kept saying was we were thinking of the life of all this stuff.
Nobody was thinking of the death of it.
Right.
How do you kill a product?
Where does it go?
We make all of this stuff.
Where does it go?
Where is it going in the world?
So that was basically, that's basically the whole point of the documentary.
So then they broke it down even more and I just want to rattle these numbers off to
you because it's so, this is where the global warming part comes into it when it comes to
this first rule of sell more.
And she also knows how much I love numbers and math, but they're so big it's hard to
fathom.
So you're just going to be like, wow, things are just getting bigger.
2.5 million shoes are produced are being made each hour.
Shut up.
You shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
Name that movie.
Oh, you shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
Yeah.
I'm seeing all of them.
Wedding crashers.
Yeah.
You're a horrible person.
I know.
I'm just giving the desk.
It's literally the only contribution I have today.
Well, she's going to say it a lot.
68,731 phones produced each hour.
Oh my god, that is insane.
What?
1091.
1091?
Garments.
So, clothing.
Clothing.
Produced each minute.
Now.
Minute.
produced each minute now minute.
And then with all of that,
12 tons, which I can't.
I think of an elephant when I think tons.
I don't know how much an elephant is.
12, 12 of those.
Yeah, 12 tons of plastic produced each second.
Yeah. Second. I mean,
as horrible as that is to think about, I believe it.
I know.
Oh, I couldn't.
I couldn't believe it at first,
because I don't think about it.
When we're clicking on Amazon,
I'm not thinking about how many of those shirts
they have in production.
No. And when you're saying like gap makes 15,000 items a year.
12. But yes.
Okay. Yes.
Yeah.
But what you're really saying is new designs.
Yes.
Per year.
Yep.
So if you're getting confused about that, you're like,
wait, there's like 97 million gaps around the country.
15,000 doesn't seem a lot or 12,000 doesn't seem a lot.
It's because that's just new designs.
Yep.
Then they're making millions, if not a billion,
articles of those designs to go all around the world.
Exactly.
Yeah. Okay.
That is crazy.
And it's just changing a pocket an inch.
Right.
You know, like how things don't really change too much,
but it's a different thing.
How they ended this first like chapter is they were like,
well, you just think, well, I don't want it.
I'll throw it away or I'll give it away or whatever.
Well, where's a way?
Yeah.
That was the that was the premise.
Where is a way?
Where is it?
Away, away.
Sorry, Lin Manuel, everyone in the flesh.
Sorry, I got Moana on the brain.
You're welcome.
Away, away.
Even Lynn sings better than you right now.
My son.
All right.
So now we're on to waste more.
Basically why things aren't produced well anymore.
So like we talk, we've actually talked about this a few times.
Refrigerators now don't hold up the same.
Dishwashers don't hold up the same.
Everything's made cheaply so they don't last as long and they do that on purpose.
Right.
But guess when they started doing that?
1925.
Shut up.
It was something called Phoebe's Cartel.
January 15th, 1925.
Phoebe's Cartel and it was basically a bunch of senior executives
from light bulb manufacturers because 1925, the light bulb was a big deal.
Yeah.
And like everybody needs a light bulb.
Everyone does.
So it was the senior execs.
They made this decision to cut the life short of the light bulb.
Right.
To create more profit.
Because you need light so you need to buy more light bulbs so the shorter they last,
the more you have to buy.
Exactly.
Every light bulb produces 2,500 hours of light.
Okay.
Yeah.
Right.
I've read that on the label.
They changed it to 1,000.
Yeah.
So in 1925, they reduced it that much.
A-holes.
Which equals, yes, that equals like crime.
It's criminal to do that.
It equals like, you know, stick it to the mat.
It equals more waste because you're needing more light bulbs.
You're needing more packaging for light bulbs.
Where does all of it go?
Like, yeah.
So we've been doing this since 1925.
And that to me was shocking.
Yeah.
I would not have thought that.
I would have been like, okay, it started in the 80s.
Right.
Because things that were made in the 50s and 60s are like forever.
They last forever.
I mean, you buy a house in the 50s and it is built on solid foundation and it is, it holds up like not even like houses today.
Oh my God, now.
It's, so I would not think that.
But it started with the light bulb and it's called planned obsolence.
What are we going to make that's not going to last for people to keep buying?
What are we going to make that breaks?
So then there was a whole section on Apple.
Well, we know that.
And people that were, you know, used to work for Apple like coders and stuff like that.
So 2007 was the first iPhone.
Really?
2007.
I know we've talked about this because I totally miss my BlackBerry.
Not the first phone.
The first iPhone.
No, I know.
I know.
I went from BlackBerry to iPhone and I want to go back to the BlackBerry.
And so they, their design was to make a new perfect item every year.
And that's what they, I mean, they're still doing that.
A new phone every single year.
And it's not much different than the old phones.
Right.
Here's the big difference.
There's a man named Kyle Wieners.
What's up Kyle?
No, he's not hers.
He is the creator of iFixit.
Wait, are we putting him on blast right now?
No.
Oh, okay.
No, no, he's in it.
Okay.
He's the creator of iFixit.
They will fix your computers.
They will fix your phones, whatever.
This guy created it.
Like the Geek Squad.
Yeah.
The Geek Squad at Best Buy.
Yeah.
But he, but there's one on Towns Replying by Kitty Kid.
Yeah, he's sort of, I fix it.
Yes.
He's sort of just passed by it.
Well, if you notice, it's a little iFixit.
Right.
Like iPhone.
I fix it.
He's been in lawsuits since the moment he started.
So it's basically, this guy wants to fix your phone.
So you don't have to go buy another one.
Don't create more waste.
Don't create more products.
I can fix your phone.
And it became this widely known company that he has created.
However, the lawyers of Apple or whoever's
really in charge, but he's been in lawsuits with Apple
since the moment he got big because they don't want him
fixing their phones.
They don't want them making better products from like,
yeah, they're one good product.
They want their products to break C by another one.
So what did they do?
They made all of their products more challenging to repair.
Because of this iFixit guy, they made the phones harder.
They made the screws not a regular screw.
It's a star.
So not a regular screwdriver can get in there to turn them
to get into the guts of the phone.
So should we be thanking this guy or being mad at him
for making it harder for everybody?
He's getting it done.
It's just more challenging.
So then, and like the iPod cake, not the iPod, airbud,
airbud, I always call it airbud.
That's the dog.
Airbud is the dog movie that plays basketball.
Constantly looking for my air buds.
Air pod.
And I, you know what?
Now I'm never going to change it.
They're the battery is, you know how you charge the holder
and the earbuds?
You can't get in there.
You cannot get in that battery case unless you smash the
whole thing and it's ruined.
Yeah, you're right.
So you have to buy new ones.
What did they do?
They took the cord away.
They took the whole easiness of fixing like he was like,
I could fix your headphones easily.
Then they took the cord away.
Yeah.
And then they made it into this bar battery operated thing
that is impossible to get into fixed.
So what you're saying is corporations, I don't know why
this is a light bulb for me.
Corporations don't really want to help you and make things
easier for you by saying, oh, this new iPhone is just,
it's got this, this and this.
It's really, really just trying to make things harder for you.
100%.
They are not on your side.
They're not on our side so much so that the next thing that
I'm going to tell you was probably one of the worst things
I took from the entire documentary.
And I mean, half of it's about marketing.
We know that it's all an illusion.
The marketing strategies are to get you as the consumer to
just buy more.
I mean, that's not shocking.
But the corporate waste after holidays and big sales and
they're listing all the, oh, well, there's going to be a sale
for Labor Day.
There's going to be a sale for Memorial Day.
There's going to be a sale for Veterans Day.
There's going to be a sale for Christmas.
And Easter and everything has a sale to make more to buy more.
The unwanted merchandise, which is vast because there aren't
enough people with that much money to buy everything that
they're producing.
We just talked about the numbers of that.
They have legally bound their employees at these stores to
destroy.
And there are some that talk about it in this of like, I
quit because this was a perfectly good whatever that I could,
we could donate.
We could, we could give to just people right outside and
they're, they're ripping Kate's paid bags, ripping them apart
so you can't resell them.
Oh my God.
You can't take them out of the trash.
So there's a girl that went viral online going to these
dumpsters out of these name brand places.
I think she was actually in New York City mainly because
it's like, there's just, it's easier.
That might be a lie though.
I can't remember.
I was on a lot of them.
Moxasalem and she shows online like Kate's paid bags just
ripped apart with knives and that's the employees have to
do it and not just Kate's paid like smaller stores, bakeries.
Why can't you give all that to the shelter?
Right.
Just give it to them.
They have to trash them and what they do is they throw salt
on them.
They throw coffee beans.
They throw everything in the trash and they have to be
recorded doing it.
Like it's so.
Yeah.
Gross.
That's gross and it goes from the top name brands down to
these small, you know, corner store at any city or suburban
place or whatever and that is what got me the most because
not only are you creating all this stuff knowing it's not
going to all be purchased.
It's not like made to buy but you don't want somebody that
is maybe can't afford it in a donation type charity philanthropy
way to enjoy the product you're supposed to be proud of
putting out in the world.
Right.
You have to destroy them because that would be devaluing
what somebody else paid for.
Right.
That would be somebody paid $2,000 for this bag but then
this person gets it for free.
So that bag is not really worth what we all know it's not
worth $2,000 but.
Oh my gosh.
It's worth.
I know.
Maybe.
I know.
Maybe $25 that Kate's paid bag or that Louboutin bag and
those shoes.
I know.
They're not even worth 100.
I know.
So it just devalues it to the corporation if you give it away
or donate it.
Well, so I'm so glad you brought that up.
Yes, I'm so smart.
We're getting into Lime More which is rule number three.
It's about exactly what you just said.
So do you remember going to H&M in New York and being like
here's all my old clothes so you're going to give me a
20% discount.
Yeah.
And I was like, wow, I just feel really good about this.
I'm going to donate my clothes.
They're going to donate it and do it a good cause and I'm
going to get some percentage off of my next purchase because
I love shopping here.
Right.
Where's all those?
Where did those clothes go?
I mean, I thought they were going to the homeless.
No, because you can do it to Amazon.
You can do it to places like H&M.
Even Goodwill.
This is a part of unfortunately.
Goodwill has a little bit more integrity where it is going
to people who need cheaper prices to be able to afford
things for their families.
Wait, I'm going to stop you right there because I just
want to let you all know.
I don't think anybody has spent more money at the Goodwill
than we did over a Halloween in just one shopping trip.
I love the Goodwill.
I think we spent 300 bucks at Goodwill on costumes and then
all of a sudden it was other things and then it was a piece
of furniture and I was like, well, this is hopefully now
I'm rethinking it.
Is it all going to the Goodwill?
Well, what you bought, Dave, because I went to you.
No, no, the money.
I'm not saying this isn't about the money of it.
Okay.
That, yeah, that's most likely going to the Goodwill.
Yeah.
Well, usually some money at Goodwill is staying with Goodwill.
Staying with Goodwill.
The Red Cross is where it's now.
Or what's the other one?
American Red Cross.
That you really shouldn't like.
Yeah.
Donate to.
Green Drop is also good too.
I do Green Drop on the daily.
So Amazon will tell you and each and them will tell you
that they're going to bring these clothes to better places,
right?
It's cheaper to dump into a landfill than to redistribute
them.
So all of them are going to these landfills.
The landfill.
So they're lying.
100%.
And they return 5 billion pounds of landfill waste.
And that's just in the U.S.
That is not overseas.
It's a billion with a B.
That is a billion.
And that's just the United States.
Think about how big Brazil is.
Think about the entire European continent.
5 billion is just the United States.
And that is the number one reason for climate change.
Landfills.
So all of these products and all of our good intention
donations and returns.
Amazon's returns are a part of that donation.
Oh, really?
So those returns don't go back to Amazon to get re-bought?
Not a lot of them.
Not all of them.
5 billion of them are going to landfills.
Yeah.
It's a perfectly good product.
It's just the wrong size.
Or I just don't need it or not as easy as you think.
And that's now what I'm thinking.
Oh, I'll just return it.
But now, where's that return going?
No wonder they just put it in some plastic shopping bag
at Kohl's and throw it in a bin.
How the heck do you read put that on a shelf in Amazon?
It's going into the ozone layer as where it's going.
I'm like, there's no tag.
And there's no box.
Sorry, I threw it out.
It doesn't matter.
Because it's trash.
Duh!
Because it's trash.
As my nine-year-old self would say, doi, doi.
Oh, man, we did say that.
So that goes into Lymor.
So companies like Coke pump out plastic for their products.
And then does commercials about how they're
going to help the environment.
Can you picture those people on a hill in a park drinking
a Coke and then recycling it in the garbage?
The marketing people, they really bring in the environment
to help gain trust from us to buy it.
We're like, oh, yeah, Coke is right.
They're going to recycle how much of their plastic, whatever.
And so me buying it isn't.
It's OK because we're doing good things here.
100% a lie.
Yeah.
And every it's like some green promise in the marketing world.
It's like, we'll do the green promise.
And then that's how they make their commercials.
And it just means that they're going to make it like
they're more hippie-dippy.
Yeah.
You know, hate hippie-dippies.
So that connection, though, it's just it's a lie.
It's a lie.
Know it now.
They seem nice to look at and you're like, all right,
there's good in the world.
It's a lie.
Yeah.
They're saying it's 100% a lie.
So the, you know, the recycle arrows.
Yeah.
Where it's like a little triangle and they're all in the same.
There's usually a number six in the center.
OK.
That's for plastics.
And that, oh, yes, technically means it can be reused.
So you're supposed to recycle that, that particular plastic
piece.
The real meaning will that is that it's going to be collected
and sorted or burned and buried.
What?
So it's going to be collected.
Yeah.
Because you're going to, you're going to quote on quote,
recycle it.
And it's technically by the word recycle, it's going to be used
into another product.
Right.
And so we're not making more.
We're just reusing it.
Reusing sustainability.
Really, what's going to happen is they're going to burn it and
all of those fumes are going to kill the ozone layer or they're
going to bury it.
And then those plastic toxins are going to go into the earth,
which we eat.
Yeah.
And which are in our water system, which means landfill.
Burn it means landfill.
And that's what I mean.
She was like, recycling is a lie.
What am I supposed to do?
I can't throw anything out.
Stop buying.
I know.
Stop buying.
There's a, we're going to talk about what to do with it.
So, you know, I could go in depth of everything that I wrote down
about it because I was like, oh my God, that's such a good thing.
Oh my God, that's such a good thing to know.
Oh my God.
It's too much.
You got to watch it.
I'm going to, I'm going to say so many things, but really should
watch this documentary.
Greenwashing.
That's what it's called.
Greenwashing.
The companies pretend to care about sustainability, but don't
actually care.
So there's natural environments in the ads.
Kids, when they add kids to commercials to talk about environmental
help and recycling and the future exactly and using just the color green.
The color green in a commercial has a different effect on the consumer
than the color red or purple.
I want to say, do they think we're that stupid?
Yeah.
And then also, but we are.
Yeah.
100%.
There's, there's this whole thing about the Amazon, not the Amazon,
Amazon.com, Amazon.com's climate pledge.
And if you look on Amazon, there is a climate pledge.
You can read all about it.
It's a thing, but they tell you what actually happened.
And it was basically this one coder who is in all the interviews being like,
we didn't think about the future.
We didn't think about where all these products were going to go.
We didn't think about how easy it was going to be to buy.
Where, how are these people going to afford anything?
And then she started to get her morals.
Yeah.
She started to fight with the battle of I'm making a lot of money and I'm
doing a really good job at my job and oh my God, what am I doing to the world?
And she started to like ask questions and she started to rally other people
behind her to be like, what, what can we do?
Like, what can we do in these meetings?
What, what can we talk about?
And she would get shut down and she would get shut up.
Yeah.
And they were like, you want to be VP?
Here's a list of rules that you need to follow.
And it was basically, she was like, it was basically a piece of paper that said,
don't speak up.
Yeah.
You must back us 100% no matter what happens, whatever anybody finds out,
you need to back us.
And if you can sign this paper, you can be VP.
So it was all this stuff.
She was planning a boycott and a strike, not a boycott.
She was planning a strike with all these people about pledging for the climate for
let's Amazon, we can change ABC and D.
She's very smart.
She was like, here's what all we have to do.
Here it is.
You don't have to work very hard.
I did it for you.
Here's all the things, blah, blah, blah.
Can we, can I talk to Jeff Bezos?
Can I talk to him?
All of the stonewalling, all of the stuff.
She was like, all right, here's the amount, ridiculous amount of Amazon employees
that are going to strike tomorrow.
And then all of a sudden Jeff Bezos got out and said, we're doing a climate pledge.
Amazon.
And I remember seeing it being like, oh, that makes me feel so much better about Amazon.
They're doing good things.
They're going to do whatever they said they're going to do.
It's a 1% change out of the whole business.
1%.
It doesn't even scratch the surface of change.
Yeah, so it's not doing anything.
No.
So be cognizant of the plastic, be cognizant of the fabric, be cognizant of everything
that you're buying.
And we've talked about it, I think before, I can vaguely remember, unless you and I
talked about it on our own, but like the micro plastics and everything.
No, we talked about it.
Yeah.
Polyester is a huge one.
And that just when you think about it, if it's being burned or buried, it's just going
right into our food.
So whether you're buying it or not, whoever's buying it, it's going in there, it's still
getting into your food and the water system and all that stuff.
And the uprising, this is what got me to, I'm almost on my TED talk, the uprising in
the world of neurological disorders, cancer and chronic disease.
I mean, that's apparent since online shopping has started.
It's so, I mean, yeah, but there's, it's so, you could think of so many reasons.
I wasn't thinking shopping.
No, I wasn't thinking shopping.
I was just thinking more products, more screens, more, you know, plastics being made, more things
like plastics being ingested when women are pregnant, right?
From things like Coke bottles and plastic cups and I thought, but I know I would not
put shopping and that together.
No, I didn't.
I didn't know what this whole documentary was about.
I was like, wow, we need more in the Mexican zone.
You know, when I'm sick, I watch like Notting Hill or Love Actually or Bravo.
I'm not sure I'm like, I'm so sick.
What documentary can I watch?
I love the Billy grow up being informed is grow up healing.
Shut up.
Just grow up.
Number five, control more last rule control more.
So the way the corporations think control more is they try to control within their own
organization. So they're trying to control their employees.
They're trying to control the narrative, what they're putting out into the world for the
consumers and just everyone.
And then they're firing anyone who opposes because they don't want you involved in their
schemes, right?
But then how does control more go into us, go into our own climate pledges?
And that's how they end it where it's like, it's not fatal.
We can change this change it 2050 doesn't have to be the end of what we know.
Right?
They're just, I think they're estimating 2050.
Well, I mean, we're going to be alive.
I know, 50.
I know.
Hopefully.
So.
They we talked about how they never thought of a plan for the end of life of products
in any industry.
There's a coder who was like, I helped code and I have to deal with this now for the forever.
I forget what he coded, but he was like, I helped do that.
And that's on me.
Yeah, because we don't it's not programmed in us to think what happens at the end of
this product's life because you don't think that you don't ever that means no profit.
So the responsibility is on the consumer.
It's on us.
It's not on them because they're never going to take responsibility.
So the responsibility of the global warming and the change of the earth and our futures
and your children's future is on us.
Yeah.
Right.
And we've been drilling that for years.
They've all been saying that about recycling above that.
Don't worry about recycling.
Literally don't worry about it because you're one trash can of recyclables.
It's not that like your one will make a difference.
No, that one really won't.
No matter what, they're not sorting it.
They're burning it or they're burying it.
That's it.
Yeah, because they've lost control.
So what can we do?
We can pressure corporations to change how they do things.
So speak up.
Use your voice.
Go to an I fix it.
Fix your products.
Do not buy more.
I think our dad is like the number one customer at I fix it.
Yep.
He knows them by name and he just anytime he has a problem with a computer or a phone,
he's that's where he is.
But how many times have we rolled our eyes?
Oh, every time.
He's like, go your screen broke here.
I'll bring it to my guy and I'm like, oh, dad, I'll just get a new one.
Well, not anymore.
Yeah.
Truly not anymore.
Fix your electronics.
Fix buying more and fixing more.
I mean, it's just like relationships.
That's the new culture.
Don't fix it.
Just get a new one.
Yeah.
Well, don't do that.
So France, there's a little piece of hope.
France has a law.
It's an actual law that coupleds like think, wow, have to be paper.
Oh, because just think of those coffee cups alone, plastic.
Oh, I know.
I don't think of that.
Well, see, when we go down the shore in the summer in Jersey,
they have a no plastic bag rule.
And to me, I'm annoyed by it.
Yeah.
I have a chance like that.
But at the same time, I'm like, oh, yeah, there's a reason.
There's a reason.
And like paper straws, I hate them.
Buy metal reusable straws, but then reuse them and don't throw them out.
Yeah.
We buy them all the time.
I hate paper straws.
Paper straws work.
They don't work.
I know.
But plastic straws are going to kill us.
Right.
But paper straws should be banned as well.
Just for being stupid.
Especially for hot things.
Oh my God.
So if France can do a law for no plastic cup, we can do like it.
It's doable.
We can do it.
I know.
We're not allowed.
I know.
We can do so many things.
We're just not allowed to do them.
Yeah.
Try to stray from single use products.
Just anything that's a one and done.
Like, curigs.
Oh my God, curigs are going to kill us all.
Yeah.
They've already started.
They've already started because they're just gross in general.
They've killed your insides.
Is that not what you were going to say?
Yeah.
That's it.
Definitely.
That's it.
But they have a reusable buy your coffee grounds, put the grounds in the little curig pod.
Yeah.
Right.
And then you just have to clean the little pod.
Do that.
It takes two more seconds for you saying that like you're one trash cans not really going to help or do anything.
There are so many things that your one thing will help.
100%.
So don't think of that as, oh, my one household is not going to do anything.
So I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.
Right.
No, I that's not.
I'm fired up.
That's not what I meant.
But yes, you're right.
Can I add one?
Yeah.
Cause you're not going to like this next one.
No, you go first.
I'll end on a good note.
Okay.
Buy less.
I'm rolling my eyes.
Obviously.
And then that specific Amazon worker who quit her job due to her morals, she said, leave things in your cart for one month.
And if you still want it and if you still need it in one month, then buy it.
Oh, well, that's my life in a nutshell.
Do you ever see those memes or those Instagram reels of your cart?
I have nine tabs open of different online stores with 300, 400, $500 worth of stuff in my cart that never get bought.
And eventually maybe one of them will.
But I fill those carts up like it's the shopping grocery shopping spree show.
Yeah.
Every single time.
And I have to sometimes I wake up and I'm like, wait, do I package is coming today?
I can't remember if I actually order them or not.
Oh my God.
But I don't, but I if I really, really want it, I will then go back and order it.
Yeah.
But just like, yeah, think of your closet.
If anyone's closet's like Carly's, it's busting at the seams, hangers have four and five dresses draped around them.
Mine too, because my closet is small.
And I do have a lot of clothes that I don't wear.
But now I'm like, where are these going to go if I don't eat them?
I know.
What happens to them if they don't just stay here with me?
So think about your purchases.
Here, wait, I'm going to add mine.
Oh yeah.
What is yours?
My way of helping is to shop small.
Shop small.
Don't go to the big stores because the smaller you shop, the smaller amount of products they buy specifically for that store.
So if you're going to a boutique, they only buy like three of each size.
So once the three of each size is gone, it's gone.
Right.
So shop small and then also reconcine your clothes.
That is my biggest thing that I do is that when I go through my closet once a week and I take things out of my closet to fit more in.
I know that's my problem.
I will go to Plato's closet, which everybody knows of.
I will go to kid to kid for the kids.
I will go, you know, as mentors, I will reconcine.
And sometimes it's a joke because I'm giving five bags of really good clothes and I get, I don't know, $2.50, like $2.50 back.
But it's true.
You know it's going to get resold.
Right.
So that is the difference.
And I definitely say shop small instead of, you know, Walmart.
They show an entire thing.
It was an Amazon worker who hit a camera, I guess in a shirt or something, that at the end of the day, the day,
not the quarter, all day, the end of the day, the amount of rollable bins full of unbought, unreturned, just brand new products,
i.e. $400 Lego sets that were going to get destroyed.
Oh my God, that hurts.
That hurts my heart because I just know the amount that I have spent for this Christmas.
Yeah.
And they're going to, what doesn't get bought that day because they don't want, they don't want to, they do the numbers of how much product they've wasted and how much profit they're making.
I mean, he shows this giant Hogwarts Lego set that's almost $400.
Yes, we have it going to get destroyed because it just was a waste.
Shouldn't have made it, but oh well.
Yeah.
Something that I haven't done in a really long time, but I'm finding myself doing a lot more because, you know,
Crane.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I, yes, I do that alone all the time, but eBay, eBay.
Yeah.
I like, what was that movie, 40 year old virgin?
Yep.
When she had an eBay store and the guy, Jonah Hill was like, I want to buy these and she's like, you can't, it's an eBay store.
That's the fun, one of the funniest movies.
I have bought so many things on eBay this Christmas because you cheaper, cheaper, so much cheaper.
Yeah.
Like I'll get a list of what somebody needs and then I'll go and see how I, that I do love a bargain.
So that's one of the things I do love to do, but so it's a little bit used.
So what?
Right.
Who cares?
I love the scratch and then at IKEA or Best Buy, get a computer with like a little scratch on the screen.
Who cares?
If Andrew could live at a used bookstore, he would live at a used bookstore.
Yeah.
My God, even books.
Yeah.
So not necessarily the happiest conversation, but it is so important because it has so much impact on every single one of us.
There's not one person not affected from the very tippy top all the way down to the bottom.
We are all affected by this and it's something that has become so much more prevalent because of having computers in our hands at all times and easy to shop.
Oh, you need that?
I'm just going Amazon real quick.
Here you go.
And it's what they've done is incredible.
Yeah.
Click of a button.
You have it in between five and 10 p.m. tonight.
Buy in one click.
Mm-hmm.
But what they're doing is actually also killing us.
It's your shopping.
I don't mean you, but like, yeah, you know, our, our shopping is going to kill us.
Right.
Is that the name of the documentary?
No, it's called Buy Now.
The shopping conspiracy because it's all, it's all a lie.
I know.
And it's the visual of it.
I cannot stress is so devastatingly important because the numbers are shocking, but then they do a really good job of letting you know how much that actually is.
And there's, where is it?
Ghana?
Ghana.
In Africa.
Ghana.
Yeah.
Oh, no, I've heard of the sugarhead.
I, like, I don't know, but like,
Oh, I know.
Ghana?
Yeah, like, what's up?
I know Ghana.
She makes clothes.
She does fashion.
They go to the beach to get the clothes because that's where.
Oh, I've seen this.
All of the goodwill clothes go.
She goes, stop sending us.
Stop.
Please stop.
Yeah.
No, I can't make clothes that fast.
And like, we are, we don't have food, but we have these tattered fabrics of clothing trash that are being donated, quote unquote.
And she's like, we're, we're drowning.
We're drowning in donations.
Basically, you think you're doing a good thing and you're really doing the worst thing.
Because they're lying to us.
It's not because we're just throwing it away, but like, I think that's what got me.
What, they were like, where's the way?
Where's the way?
Because what we don't know, we don't know.
We don't think about it.
And we don't ask questions.
Don't want to.
Yeah.
But where is a way?
Where is it?
They show you where it is.
I will.
It's bad.
I don't have a way now to where outfits more than once.
Oh my God.
But that's my vow.
I said it in front of everybody else.
I will do that.
Okay.
I vow to hold you to it in an annoying way.
I just brought you eight pair of shoes that I need you to try on before I donate them, which I'm not going to donate now.
I'm just going to start, I'm just going to stand on the street and see if anybody wants them.
All of your winter coats that you want to get rid of because Andrew is gonna divorce you
Go to Philadelphia and just give them out. Oh, what a good idea and do with kids
Yeah, just give them out because
Nobody cares what they look like they need to be warm, you know, like yeah, there's just so many ways and and do your
Self and your neighbors a justice by looking up the ways because I am so
Upset by this documentary in a I think a good way. I think that's the point of it
Is to get people yeah, they want to get people height a week
Hipes a good word for it. Yeah, I want to hike to uh
I'm I'm the change. I was like I was watching the whole thing going but how can we fix it?
Yeah, what you're saying is so detrimental and and you're also telling me that they're never gonna stop
These you know, Jeff bases never gonna stop making stuff make money
So how do we fix it and they're like you it's it's you stop buying she and stop buying Timo
Oh my god, like just stop buying because
That stuff they make it so cheap so that you buy multiple multiple multiple things
Just don't do him. They haven't mentioned the toxins that are in it. Well the toss it there's an elite. There's a
illegal
Law or a law that you're not allowed to send your hour trash overseas like we're not allowed to do that
Yes, because it's horrible. Well
There's a guy who follows the trash. That's his job. What was he what is his name a waste a
Waste something
Away a waste
Waste and he follows these bins of trash being shipped on boats overseas
From us because it's cheaper for us and these corporations to do it, but it's illegal
So they just slip of the good slip them 100 bucks hundred American dollars. They'll do anything right a bully
So he follows these electronics to this place in some some very small village and
They just have a piece of fabric mask and they're breaking them and he was like what you don't understand
Is that them breaking these little computers?
They are releasing so many
horrible cancerous
Ozone killing gases into their faces and into the world. Yeah, they're just trying to eat that night
They're just trying to have dinner right, you know
So they're just doing their jobs and he's videoing it going this is so illegal
Not what they're doing the fact that we are why they're doing it. Yeah, and it's just electronics
So I've never owned a new iPad. I have only ever owned a refurbished one
so
There are ways that your kid can get I'm quoting a new iPhone or a new iPad
It's just called refurbished. It comes in the same box. It was somebody else's they wiped it. They cleaned it
It's brand new in the box. It's just refurbished
There are ways to do it and then your son and your daughter still have a new electronic thing
But it's not new buy on Facebook marketplace. I was just gonna say do it. Yeah, Louis is gonna have the Christmas of his life
This year because of eBay. Louis. Don't listen to this
Trust me. He doesn't ever. All right. All of that being said
We're gonna we do even though that's depressing. We are gonna play a quick little game
So it's not just like down in the dumps. It's called
Brand me, baby. Oh
My god, you ready? I'm gonna say some facts Victoria is going to guess the answer. Okay, okay
What did McDonald's originally make?
before hamburgers
What did they sell? Oh my god?
Hot dogs. Yeah. No way. Yes. I just picked the opposite
I'm not even gonna give you multiple choice like you literally just have to pick out of the air wait really
Yeah, McDonald's used to just make hot dogs crazy
Ben and Jerry's was originally going to be a what company not ice cream. It used to be a
If you get this I'll know that you read them
cookies no
bagels
Ben and Jerry's was a bagel company. Huh?
I prefer ice cream. Wait the Lamborghini now. Everybody knows what a Lamborghini is car. Mm-hmm
What did they start out making not Lamborghinis?
Which is like the sexiest car in the world?
What did it used to make?
In the car family in the car family, but not a car
I don't know like a tractor. Yeah farm equipment stop. Yeah Lamborghini
Yeah, it's like get your farm equipment from Lamborghini and then it completely switched over. Is that why they're like this is the Lamborghini of I
guess so lawnmowers
I'm amazing
Well, you're lucky. Okay, this mm-hmm one jar of this sweet spread is sold
Every two point five seconds peanut butter two point five seconds. You're close
Sweet Nutella Nutella. No way every two point five seconds Nutella is being sold wait ready
It just sold
It just
It just sold
I get it I love it, but holy, you know, there's no hazelnuts in there
Yes, I know if everything's fake everything I you know is fake
Yeah, what is the what remains the best-selling toy of all time?
What of all time toy one toy mm-hmm one? Hmm in all of the decades
You want me to say it again?
The best-selling toy of all time in all the decades that have ever lived no shopping makes Carly a mean girl
The Barbie you're close but not at all close. Yeah, the Rubik's Cube. Oh my god. Yeah
I guess that makes sense still still if you just think go to five below
There's like five different kinds of Rubik's cubes. I feel like that's yeah now. They're like 20 each
$20 each. I know I feel like that's like I got my kids all these things. They just want to play with the boxes
Mm-hmm, like why do we make other toys? You know?
This one is going to
Crush you
Can't wait how many glasses of Coca-Cola are
They say knocked back every every second every second of the day how many glasses are being consumed glasses
Okay, so like an eight ounce glass mm-hmm every second of the day
Like a six pack six
12 not per person in the world
Why don't you just tell me okay
8,000 glasses of Coca-Cola are being consumed every single second of the day at one time
There are 8,000 people drinking Coca-Cola every second. Oh my god second second
So like a new 8,000 start the second second and right now and right now and right now
Wait your seconds are a little fast
But yes, oh my god. All right last one. I don't like that
What company
Uses over 93 million gallons of milk per year, which is the equivalent of a hundred and fifty five
Olympic size swimming pools what company
uses a hundred and fifty five
swimming pools a year of milk a year
What company so it's got to be a dairy company, right? It's got to be no
It's not a dairy company. Think about think of something else
Go a different route
cereal company no
Starbucks
Starbucks uses
155 Olympic size swimming pools of milk per year
So here's how I think that's a good thing. It helps our farming industry. However, it's almond milk oat milk
Oh, that's all farm. Well, does it say cow or plant just say in general?
Which is those gallons of milk all of its farm in some way
But what I think of is how many like gallons are in plastic plastic container. So hopefully it's it's being distributed in a smarter way
Isn't that crazy? But oh my
goodness
Mm-hmm. I I can't even I don't even like that visual. I hate milk. That's gross
Fun facts with Carly May it was called brand me, baby
I'm branded forever. My heart hurts. It's burning
No, no amount of aqua for will help
so
Thank you for going on this journey with us. However, the journey is not over
So please watch by now the shopping conspiracy on Netflix
Watch it just do it and then and then make a decision from there of what you would like to do to contribute
To all of our futures. Yes
If nothing Victoria said to you today hit home at all and you don't want to make a change at all
Watch the documentary. I mean, I got it. No, it just it really I haven't stopped thinking about it because I've been shopping
It's been Cyber Monday. It's been Black Friday very recently
Well, maybe you should have told me to watch this before I just did four days of shopping
Well, I you're you're a little tougher to change
so I think
It will happen in its own time, but I would have still maybe done it but maybe with more of a conscience
Honestly, this was planned for Tuesday. Oh, that's right. I got sick and I wanted it to come out on Cyber Monday
However, life gets in the way. So here we are. It's after Cyber Monday
We still have a lot of shopping to do if you're anything like me
so make make some
Better decisions make some proper choices cut down on your buying or just do some research before you make any of those decisions
Christmas doesn't have to be
Gluttonous, you know
Carly just agrees
We tried to cut down on our our spending this year. So we also tried to cut down on the time of this podcast
Yeah, gosh darn. I'm allowed to say. Yeah, these are the only people that will listen to me
Because they can't interrupt you exactly
All right, so
Just remember you're always fit to be real and always allowed to be a little extra
but just
Buy enough for what you need. Don't buy extra. Yeah, just be extra in your personality, right?
But you don't need extra be frugal in your pockets and extra in your
Rasmut has yeah, just you got the Riz the razzle dazzle
You got the as Melody would say mom you got the Riz
Yeah, I don't think you got the right. It's not a disease. It's it is for you. I
Think it is for you be extra internally
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