1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,760 Welcome to Fit to Be Real. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,560 And a little extra. 3 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,080 In the longest month of the year. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,080 January. 5 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,080 It has been an entire month, 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,200 but it has felt like an entire year. 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,680 And we haven't had that much sun. 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,160 Well, I think that's why. 9 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,240 But is that normal? 10 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:20,760 Is that like an every year thing? 11 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,160 Or are we just feeling it more? 12 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,200 I don't know. 13 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,360 We particularly haven't had a lot of cold, sunny days. 14 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,120 We've had a lot of just cold, overcast, dreary days, 15 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,200 but not a lot of sun. 16 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,800 And you can tell when the sun comes out 17 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,040 and everyone's like, it's sunny. 18 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,960 Well, everyone's mood shifts. 19 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,800 I know, mine does. 20 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,520 Exactly what we're talking about today. 21 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,520 What? 22 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,120 What? 23 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,600 I can't believe it. 24 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,680 What are we talking about today, Victoria? 25 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,640 Sad. 26 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,360 Aw. 27 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,000 We're so sad. 28 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Seasonal, effective disorder, which lasts longer than January. 29 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Yes, it lasts all of winter. 30 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,640 Yes. 31 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,000 And for some, most of the year. 32 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,600 So we are going to talk about seasonal depression. 33 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,000 This is another name for it. 34 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,120 And the signs of it. 35 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,160 So you can kind of know if you're in it or not 36 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,080 and how to get out of it and just navigate it together. 37 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:23,840 I'm Victoria. 38 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Hey, guys. 39 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,200 I'm Carly. 40 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,160 She may sound happy, but she's not. 41 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,560 I'm so sad. 42 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,720 I'm so sad. 43 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,480 It's just a little comical to me. 44 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,320 I'm sorry if this upsets anyone. 45 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,400 But it's a little comical to me that is called sad. 46 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,680 It's like very to the point and you can't mess it up. 47 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Well, SAD was something I've learned this year. 48 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,120 I always just call it seasonal depression. 49 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,000 So did I. 50 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,160 I'm going to post a link of a quiz 51 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,480 you can take to see if you have seasonal depression. 52 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,840 I took one. 53 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,720 What was your result? 54 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,440 I was. 55 00:01:59,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Yeah. 56 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:00,680 Mine wasn't. 57 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Mine was just grumpy. 58 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:02,920 No way. 59 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,600 It said you don't have SAD. 60 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,440 You're just grumpy. 61 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,720 I would have rather that than I got you need to speak to somebody. 62 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,080 Well, we all know that. 63 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,400 And I was like, well, actually, I'm not that sad. 64 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,400 All the real extras are snapping right now. 65 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Snaps for Carly. 66 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,800 I actually didn't think. 67 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,840 And I'm not going to go by this quiz and say, like, yes, I have it. 68 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,720 Because I actually don't think I do. 69 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,320 I love the winter months because I love my clothes. 70 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,680 And that's an actual thing for me. 71 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,440 That's an actual thing for me. 72 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:44,520 But I didn't answer the questions correctly, I guess. 73 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,280 No. 74 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,040 What's happening now is that you're not agreeing with the answer. 75 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:49,520 Yes. 76 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Versus dealing with it. 77 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,720 So it's wrong. 78 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Incorrect. 79 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,280 I agree with you, though. 80 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,680 I love this season. 81 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,120 I love the cold weather. 82 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,440 I'm a winter, not a summer baby. 83 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,360 I like the winter. 84 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,240 I like to be cold. 85 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,280 I like to bundle. 86 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,640 I like walking out in the cold. 87 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:06,560 Doesn't matter. 88 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,680 I think it has to be in the negatives for me to not go out for a walk. 89 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,720 I know that's cold. 90 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,000 It's crazy. 91 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,400 You look at more than I do. 92 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:12,880 It's not bad. 93 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Yeah. 94 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,280 So that's why I think I don't have seasonal depression 95 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,520 because I enjoy the season. 96 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,720 However, I do all of the symptoms of what 97 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,280 SAD is emotionally. 98 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,760 I have all of those. 99 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:33,240 So it definitely, I think I'm like a testament to how 100 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:39,080 the amount of sunlight affects the circadian rhythms and the body 101 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 and how that directly affects the mind. 102 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,200 However, I love the weather. 103 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Do you like the dreariness? 104 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,320 I don't mind. 105 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:48,760 You don't mind it. 106 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,600 I help people. 107 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,320 I thrive in this. 108 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,640 I love it right now. 109 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,440 It's not a sunny day. 110 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,440 We're recording right now. 111 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,480 It is overcast. 112 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,000 It's pretty cold. 113 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,800 And I think it's great. 114 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:05,960 I do notice, and this was even before we started to talk about doing this episode, 115 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,840 but I do notice that when it is sunny and cold, 116 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,000 I am way more productive than I will be today. 117 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,400 I already know that. 118 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,720 It was sunny maybe two weeks ago, a week ago, 119 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,400 and I got all this stuff done before 10 a.m. 120 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,360 And I was feeling good. 121 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,560 And I was like, I don't even think I'm going to have my midday crash today. 122 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,440 So I'm just feeling really good because the sun is out. 123 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:26,640 Yeah. 124 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,240 And then the next day it's dreary. 125 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,560 And I'm like, all I want to do is get back in bed. 126 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,160 Carly, that's called SAD. 127 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:32,800 But I'm not. 128 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,200 I don't feel bad. 129 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,520 I'm just like, I hate this. 130 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,520 I know that's SAD. 131 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,960 I want to be HAP. 132 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,320 But like, people are wondering, but don't you understand about the whole 133 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,600 episode we're about to talk about? 134 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,720 No, I'm just saying that. 135 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Damn it. 136 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,080 I'm just saying that. 137 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,400 It doesn't get me upset. 138 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,960 Like, I'll get through it and I'm just like, I don't get unmotivated. 139 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Like, I will still do everything that I need to do. 140 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,360 I just am a happier person when it's sunny. 141 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,720 You just said you were going to be less productive today. 142 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,720 You already knew because it's dreary out. 143 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,800 I want to be. 144 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,240 I'm sorry. 145 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,280 Let me rephrase that. 146 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:10,000 I would like to go back to bed. 147 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,520 I won't because I know I have so many things to do. 148 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:18,520 I think SAD gets you to actually not be productive. 149 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,320 I just don't want to be on days like this, but I do what I have to do and whatever. 150 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,320 But it's fine. 151 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,080 We all know you haven't accepted it and it's your cross to bear. 152 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,400 That's OK. 153 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:37,960 So seasonal affective disorder affects about five percent of the adults in the United States 154 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,640 and two to four times more likely for women. 155 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,160 Do you want to know why? 156 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,640 I think this is not part of any of the articles that I read, but because of the light, which 157 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:57,720 is a huge trigger for SAD, it affects hormones and women have way more of a hormonal imbalance 158 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,840 and balance going on in the body. 159 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:05,120 So I think that's why women tend to bear that cross. 160 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,840 It's also where you live and where you live. 161 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:13,560 Well, compared to the amount of sunlight, sunlight plays a big part of it and where 162 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:20,360 you live affects the increased amount of people that get seasonal depression. 163 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,920 I'm going to go out on a limb here and say people in Florida have it a little less than 164 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,440 people in Portland, Oregon. 165 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,600 People in Florida have a one percent. 166 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,840 There's one percent of the people, Floridians. 167 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:33,840 Floridians. 168 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:34,840 But not necessarily women. 169 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:35,840 No, no, no. 170 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:36,840 Are you talking about women? 171 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:41,040 No, I'm just talking in general than people in Portland where it's raining every day. 172 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,640 But I mean, if you're born in Portland, Oregon, aren't you just used to it? 173 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Well, the same with Alaska, right? 174 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:55,440 I believe they have months out of the year that the sun never comes up. 175 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,440 That, right? 176 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Yeah, that I could never do. 177 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,320 But if you're the same thing, if you're born into it, do you know the difference? 178 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,360 Yeah, I don't know. 179 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Most people are affected not just for the five months that it's cold and dark and damp, 180 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,120 but about 40 percent of the year. 181 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,120 That's a lot of the year. 182 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,200 It's a lot of the year to be gloomy and grumpy. 183 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,040 I love that you got grumpy. 184 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,040 It was like, you're fine. 185 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,040 You're just grumpy. 186 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,800 I was like, I don't think I am. 187 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,800 So what is sad exactly? 188 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,120 I'll tell you. 189 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Can't wait. 190 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Here are some of the things you can look out for. 191 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,040 If you're not going to go take a quiz, we'll tell you some of the cues to look out for. 192 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:48,720 It's if you are low energy, you're feeling sad, loss of interest in favorite activities, 193 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:56,520 changes in appetite, different sleep patterns, poor concentration, feelings of guilt, and 194 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,920 thoughts of death. 195 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,160 Those all seem very depressing to me. 196 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,160 And sad. 197 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Yeah. 198 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,640 I think that's why it's called seasonal depression. 199 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Yeah. 200 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Well, the good thing about seasonal depression is hopefully you make it out on the other 201 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,920 end as opposed to a long term depression where it's just a hamster wheel. 202 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Well, so that I think is one of the points of today is kind of identifying it for yourself 203 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,800 and seeing if it's a long term type of situation. 204 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Another way talking to a doctor is a suggestion, whether it is SAD or it's a full blown form 205 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 of depression in another way. 206 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:45,640 It starts around October and it will end sometime in the spring, they say around April 207 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,640 due to the sun. 208 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Sunlight. 209 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Yeah. 210 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,640 Because I don't think it's just sunlight. 211 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,000 No, no, no. 212 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Sun is a trigger because in these months we get less sunlight. 213 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:02,040 So the morning sunrise comes later and the sunset comes earlier. 214 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,600 So because of the less sun, you get less serotonin and it's that chemical. 215 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,240 We're just going to see that. 216 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Yeah. 217 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,120 It's the chemical that is the feel good chemical. 218 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,240 It's what regulates our moods. 219 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,240 Your brain. 220 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Yeah. 221 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:22,320 So when the sun is not providing us the serotonin to feel good and happy, we can kind of dip 222 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,200 into that really melancholy place. 223 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,000 And so the reverse of that would be really interesting. 224 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I know. 225 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Isn't that crazy? 226 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:37,280 It also affects your, all right, Dr. Justin, paging Dr. Justin, it affects your melatonin, 227 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,880 which is what happens when you sleep. 228 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:46,840 And if you're not sleeping well, then you're in a negative for melatonin that you need 229 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,360 to regulate your body's sleep patterns. 230 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,280 So let's just, let's break that down a little bit. 231 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,800 The shorter days is the less sun. 232 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,040 So we get off of our circadian rhythm, which is just that internal clock that we have. 233 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,040 We all have it. 234 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,840 It's sometimes when you don't set that alarm and your body just wakes up because it knows 235 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:03,840 that it's morning. 236 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,680 That's part of your circadian rhythm. 237 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:09,080 And sleep is a big factor, right? 238 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:15,960 So our body's production of hormones, which are the chemical messengers in the body to 239 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,320 tell us what to do, how to do it, when to do it. 240 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,760 And they get affected by it, and one of those hormones is melatonin. 241 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:31,640 So those gummies that people eat, yes, of melatonin is just extra, yes, oh my gosh, extra 242 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,760 help if you need the help, if you need the help. 243 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:41,640 So the levels of melatonin rise in the evening and they get released while we're sleeping, 244 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:47,680 which is why we sleep a little bit deeper or longer or more soundly, whatever it is. 245 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:52,440 And they drop in the morning hours, which is how we wake up and we don't feel so gloomy 246 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,000 and not gloomy, but groggy stuff like that. 247 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,240 So that's all part of the circadian rhythm. 248 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:06,160 So when the seasonal shift happens and we get less of that sunlight, what happens is 249 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,280 we wake up because the alarm goes off at six o'clock, seven a.m., let's pretend like that's 250 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,560 a collective thing. 251 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:17,520 We wake up because our phones are going off, but the melatonin is still being released 252 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,960 in the body, telling us we're sleepy. 253 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,960 We're sleepy. 254 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,240 It's time to sleep. 255 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:31,200 So it's a complete miscommunication and an imbalance between your body and actual life 256 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,200 that's happening. 257 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,160 So that melatonin is a huge factor. 258 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,280 It's quite the opposite of serotonin, right? 259 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Not opposite. 260 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,280 It doesn't make us sad. 261 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,280 It just makes us sleepy. 262 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Right, yeah. 263 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,480 So that's where it all kind of starts for seasonal affective disorder. 264 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,560 That's very good. 265 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:59,840 I enjoyed that description because I even understood it. 266 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,480 Well, I read it enough for me to understand it too because I know melatonin. 267 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,640 I know serotonin. 268 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,080 I know you're supposed to wake up to the sun. 269 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,640 It never really clicked for me. 270 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,120 And it makes so much sense that we're waking up, but our body's still trying to tell us 271 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,760 that it's time to sleep. 272 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,520 So as much as we think it's a mental like, I'm just sad, it's super chemical. 273 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,000 It's a chemical thing that our bodies are doing of wanting to keep us in bed. 274 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,800 Well I was reading a lot. 275 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,600 I went on a lot of blogs to see what people were saying about it. 276 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,360 And a lot of the questions were, how do I know if I'm depressed or I have seasonal depression? 277 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,120 Which is a huge thing. 278 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,320 It was saying, when you go to the doctor, your doctors will primarily say, when did 279 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,200 this start, when did you start feeling like this? 280 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:51,040 And okay, we're going to see about what time this ends or if it ends. 281 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,000 If it doesn't end, it's depression. 282 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,720 It's all about the timing. 283 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:03,040 And you might not even know or realize it until you say it out loud or talk to your 284 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,440 doctor or just saying it to somebody else. 285 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,520 And be like, oh yeah, it did start when it got dark at three o'clock. 286 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,520 It's the worst. 287 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:20,400 But if it's really a time sensitive issue, that's how doctors tell the difference. 288 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,400 So it's not a quick fix. 289 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,560 So basically if you're going to go to a doctor, they're not going to know right away which 290 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:25,560 one it is. 291 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,440 You kind of have to let it play out. 292 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,560 Unfortunately, yes. 293 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:31,560 You probably wouldn't know that. 294 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:34,520 She's never gone to a doctor. 295 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,640 So paging doctor Justin. 296 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Don't quite get it from her. 297 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,280 Well let's just say you took the quiz. 298 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,440 You have seasonal depression. 299 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,800 You are sad. 300 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,160 What do we do about it? 301 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Please tell us, Carly. 302 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,200 Let's talk about how to conquer it. 303 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,920 First, acknowledge it. 304 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,440 Lean into it. 305 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,080 And the first, don't even look at me like that. 306 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,840 I turned away. 307 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Are you listening? 308 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,200 Turn away. 309 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,440 The first one says to feel your feelings. 310 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,440 Lean it. 311 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Basically lean into it and feel your feelings. 312 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Be sad. 313 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,160 It's okay. 314 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,440 Believe the quiz and don't. 315 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,440 No, I just say that it's. 316 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,440 Oh God. 317 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,440 You're so stupid. 318 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Just kidding. 319 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,440 I look, I'm laughing and it's dreary. 320 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,440 It's impossible. 321 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Okay. 322 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Okay. 323 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Please know that this is not an indicator. 324 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,360 You can still laugh and have seasonal depression. 325 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,360 I'm kidding. 326 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,360 I'm sad. 327 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,360 And depression. 328 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,320 Yeah, but on your happy friends, they're most likely very sad internally. 329 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,880 It's true, especially if they make a lot of jokes. 330 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,440 But the number one is feel your feelings. 331 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,320 Really actually listen to your body, listen to yourself. 332 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,400 And it's okay to be sad. 333 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,900 It really is. 334 00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:58,740 Because especially with seasonal depression, know that there's a timeline and you will 335 00:14:58,740 --> 00:14:59,740 come out of it. 336 00:14:59,740 --> 00:15:01,560 So just feel them for a little bit. 337 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,600 And as soon as that sun starts coming out and affecting you, it will be over. 338 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,200 But it's hard, it is hard to see that when you're in it. 339 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,040 The next one, stop looking at me. 340 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Stop looking at me swan. 341 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,760 Name that movie. 342 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Uh, to the Adam Sandler. 343 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,440 Yeah. 344 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,440 But what's the movie? 345 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,440 Yeah. 346 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Big Daddy. 347 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,680 Ooh, tough break. 348 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Billy Madison. 349 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Bill, that's right. 350 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Billy Madison. 351 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,600 The next one is one I don't particularly love, but it's hard to do. 352 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,600 It's staying social. 353 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,920 Oh yeah. 354 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:38,120 It tells you not to become a hermit and sort of be a recluse for the winter and hibernate. 355 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,120 Don't do that. 356 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,120 Yeah. 357 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:47,960 I feel very mixed about that because I do know there is a lot of good from going into 358 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:55,400 this hermit stage of needing to do what you need to do for yourself and maybe not socialize. 359 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Because I do that, you do that. 360 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Oh yeah. 361 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,840 I know. 362 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Well, there's truly a balance there and I don't, I'm going to tell you all right now, 363 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,960 I don't know how to balance that out because I this season went in the hermit way. 364 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Like I was full-fledged hermit. 365 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:16,800 And I probably could have used a little bit more socialization to keep my brain lighter. 366 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,200 Yeah. 367 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,320 You need those fun times to release. 368 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,320 To release. 369 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,320 The serotonin. 370 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Yeah, exactly. 371 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,320 To take away from the light. 372 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,320 To feel good. 373 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Yeah. 374 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:34,720 And which is to exercise and whether that means take a walk daily to get whatever little 375 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,760 sunlight is out there with a friend. 376 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,440 You get a double whammy there. 377 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,360 But it says to exercise, keep moving your body. 378 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,400 I would even say go out in nature. 379 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:51,080 So even if it's cold, get outside the cold air on your skin. 380 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,360 It is a full nervous system like reset. 381 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,960 It's not a magic pill, but you can feel it where you're like, wow, I feel rejuvenated. 382 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Yes, I'm cold. 383 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:03,960 And that's a piece of what I feel so rejuvenated. 384 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,160 But I'm not freezing and I'm outside. 385 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,160 I'm in nature. 386 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,160 There's life happening. 387 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,880 If you, there's something I noticed actually today when I took a walk this morning. 388 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,080 There's not like a leaf on a tree anymore. 389 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,080 Right. 390 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,240 And there's not even the beautiful snow on the trees can look pretty in the snow. 391 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Right. 392 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Even if there's no leaves, there's branches and it's just that snow covers. 393 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,280 It's a bird storybook type of thing. 394 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:33,200 So right now it's brown branches, no leaves, no flowers. 395 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,520 The grass is like brown and patchy. 396 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,240 There's really nothing quote unquote beautiful outside. 397 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,400 However, there are animals running around. 398 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,940 There are birds in the sky. 399 00:17:43,940 --> 00:17:49,080 There is life happening in the winter, the dark. 400 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,240 There's life happening in the dark. 401 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:57,800 And when you get outside and you take that walk, especially with a pup who's super happy 402 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,800 to be outside. 403 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,520 Like sometimes I'll just look down at my dog whose little bottom is going side to side 404 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,180 like, oh, this is the best day ever. 405 00:18:06,180 --> 00:18:11,080 And sometimes you just need that little, it seems silly, but you need that little reminder 406 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:16,880 to be like, yeah, it's, it's just like you said, it's going to be over. 407 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,880 Right. 408 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,960 And there's so much thriving in this season. 409 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,400 I think you have to be in the mindset of that. 410 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,400 Oh, yes. 411 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Like you're in the mindset of looking at something pretty darn dreary and saying, wow, there's 412 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:37,760 life here and the world is still turning even though, you know, I'm sad or whatever 413 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,240 it is. 414 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,400 If you need to do some of these things to get yourself to that mindset. 415 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,400 Oh, yes. 416 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,040 And I'm not even like that every day. 417 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,200 I'm not like that every day at all. 418 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,160 No, you got the grumpy on the grumpy. 419 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,160 But that's true. 420 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,560 I mean, if you go take a walk outside, you're knocking two birds with one stone, you're getting 421 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,360 the exercise, you're getting those endorphins. 422 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:01,480 Endorphins make people happy. 423 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,920 Happy people just don't kill their husbands. 424 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,160 And then you're also getting out in nature. 425 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,480 So it's a Leavie Blonde reference, by the way. 426 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,880 No, that's a new reference. 427 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,880 Andrew's okay. 428 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,360 And believe it or not, the sun is still above those clouds. 429 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:20,640 So you're getting vitamin D, which is helpful for all of the things that we're talking about. 430 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,940 Which brings us to my last two. 431 00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:24,880 This one is keeping a healthy diet. 432 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,720 I mean, it's pretty straightforward. 433 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:33,000 What you put into your body is very important in how you feel. 434 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,240 If you put toxins in, you're going to feel bad. 435 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,320 If you put good, clean stuff in, you're going to feel good. 436 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,960 That's just plain and simple. 437 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,240 It's twofold though, because when you're not feeling happy or. 438 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,880 I guess happy and tired. 439 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,680 When you're tired, you don't eat well. 440 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,680 Right. 441 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,880 That's why one of the symptoms of seasonal affective disorder is change in appetite. 442 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,400 And it doesn't mean that you're not hungry. 443 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,080 It means that you just want the crappy things. 444 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,320 It doesn't mean you're craving a carrot. 445 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,600 Or you want to be happy. 446 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,600 And guess what? 447 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Sugar is a drug. 448 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,840 And it will make you happy immediately and then sad immediately. 449 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,160 So what's the number one thing you do though? 450 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,160 You bake. 451 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,160 Yes. 452 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,160 You bake cookies. 453 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,320 We just baked cookies with the kids the other day. 454 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,400 And yeah, that's what you do. 455 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,760 Except when we were growing up, snow days were for tacos. 456 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,040 It was a snow day. 457 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,320 We were making tacos. 458 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,120 We were always a little off. 459 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:30,120 But that's the best. 460 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:31,120 I wanted a taco this year. 461 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,520 I know during the snow is I want tacos. 462 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,520 We had tacos. 463 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,520 We did. 464 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,520 You texted me instead. 465 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Are you guys having tacos? 466 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,840 And I was like, yeah, dog. 467 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,840 And I said, yeah, dog. 468 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,840 I had a salad. 469 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:47,720 But yeah, so the diet is super important. 470 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,080 And the last thing that it suggests is I want to say it's not dieting. 471 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,080 No, no, no. 472 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,880 Diet what you're eating your lifestyle. 473 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,880 Sorry, that's healthy lifestyle. 474 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,880 I'm sorry. 475 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:57,880 I'm just clarifying. 476 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Yeah, I'm not sorry. 477 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 And bright light therapy. 478 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:08,080 So if you Google or you go on Amazon or you, you know, take a do a little research, there 479 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:14,800 are actual lights that combat seasonal depression, which I didn't know. 480 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,480 And to me, I just said, like, how is that? 481 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,320 That doesn't work because it's marketed, you know, wake up with the sunrise. 482 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:29,120 And it's this light, this artificial light that is simulating the if you were to just 483 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,840 like a movie, open the curtains and there's sunlight coming into your windows. 484 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,280 And that's how you wake up. 485 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,660 Here's why. 486 00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:40,040 You should do it as you wake up and there are alarm clocks. 487 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,000 Excuse me. 488 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,520 There are alarm clocks that simulate a sunrise. 489 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:54,280 Even before, well, I think you can set it to your alarm, but the light is not this LED 490 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,280 light. 491 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,880 It is a light that is specifically for this reason. 492 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:04,520 And about 30 minutes of this exposure helps with the circadian rhythms and that melatonin 493 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,920 release that we were talking about before. 494 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:15,240 So it is all connected to hormones and how the light quite literally needs to be connected 495 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,920 to the body. 496 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,440 It's not just like a gimmick. 497 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,520 Like by this light and you'll be better. 498 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Yeah, I thought it was too. 499 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,360 And I was almost going to get one from mom for Christmas, but I got her an alarm clock 500 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:29,440 last year because she asked for one that had the light on the ceiling. 501 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,400 So she didn't have to look over to the right side. 502 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,960 See man's alarm clock. 503 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,320 Yeah, I should have got her to the light. 504 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,840 No, we don't want her going to the light just yet. 505 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:49,680 So having said all that about seasonal depression, hold on, you also missed that is BLT, bright 506 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680 light therapy. 507 00:22:51,680 --> 00:23:02,240 She is on purpose, I would say, ignoring CBT cognitive behavioral therapy, which is talk 508 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,040 therapy with a therapist. 509 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,240 Oh yeah. 510 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,360 Because nine times out of 10, you say, I hate winter, winter's stupid. 511 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,760 I hate this season. 512 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,400 But if you're going to therapy and you're talking through it, you're going to realize 513 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:20,120 other reasons underlying as to why you think this season is not a season for you. 514 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:25,120 And that's how you work through it and get through it in a timely manner. 515 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:31,120 Sorry, I didn't cognate with that. 516 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:38,640 You know, I didn't skip that on purpose. 517 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,120 Talk it out, talk it out, hug it out. 518 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,000 Don't hug me, don't talk to me. 519 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:51,280 Now having talked about all that, here's where I think I am on the spectrum. 520 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Okay, let's talk about me. 521 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,560 Can't wait. 522 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,480 Because I think a lot of people are going to resonate with what I'm about to say as opposed 523 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,080 to having seasonal depression. 524 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,560 There's a thing called the blouse. 525 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,120 Did you know about this? 526 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,400 The blouse, B-L-A-H-S. 527 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,440 It's when, and it's another word for it is languishing. 528 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,120 Did you see this? 529 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,040 It's the feeling of being between loving life and depression. 530 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,640 You don't have seasonal depression, but you're not loving life right now. 531 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,280 It's like the in between. 532 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,120 You might feel you're not thriving, but you're not sick. 533 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:30,200 You're not depressed, but you're not excited, and you're not falling apart, but you're not 534 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,160 functioning on all cylinders. 535 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,160 It's literally you feel blah. 536 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:42,360 So it's the middleman between depression and enjoying every single day. 537 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:43,600 I think that's what I have. 538 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,920 I have the blouse. 539 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,160 And it's very common. 540 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:58,040 Some signs are lack of motivation, lack of joy, wasting time, and boredom. 541 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,240 So I feel like that's more me, because I'm not sad. 542 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,160 I'm just lack of motivating, lack. 543 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,880 Yeah, I agree. 544 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,120 Sad also doesn't mean you have to be grieving something. 545 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,120 Oh, I know. 546 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,640 Sad could just be blah. 547 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,640 Right. 548 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,640 Right. 549 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:21,280 Stress, some of the causes of being blah are stress and lack of social outlet. 550 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Social, well, I can't talk today. 551 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:29,480 Some of the causes of feeling blah are stress and lack of social outlets. 552 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,920 So one of the things to do is to increase your social life. 553 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Wow. 554 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,000 You're just saying SAD in a different way. 555 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,120 That sounds nicer for those who don't want to attach the word depression to their selves. 556 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:51,400 Well, maybe, maybe this is like a millennial thing. 557 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,160 Sad is more our generation. 558 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,160 More millennials. 559 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,160 I think this is a Gen Z. 560 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Gen Z, that's what I mean, Gen Z. 561 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,200 Except no, this is a boomer thing. 562 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,200 You think? 563 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Gen Zs are like, I'm depressed, let's talk about it. 564 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,200 Millennials are like, I don't really want to talk about it. 565 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,640 And boomers are like, I'm not sad, I just want to kill everyone. 566 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,640 That's true. 567 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,760 So it's a very accurate description. 568 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,760 Thank you. 569 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,080 I think, yeah, this is for the generation who didn't want to connect to emotion and 570 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,320 attach the word depression. 571 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:30,440 If you say depression or toxic or trigger or any of those words that are normalized now 572 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,320 to someone of the older generation, it's like they don't want to touch it with a ten-foot 573 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,320 pole. 574 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,320 I know. 575 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,320 You were born in the wrong generation. 576 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Me? 577 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,320 Oh, no, no, no. 578 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,320 I, yeah, what? 579 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,320 Yeah. 580 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,880 I do love the 1950s. 581 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,000 That was my era. 582 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,040 If I could come back, I'd be born in the 50s. 583 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,720 Let's clarify this again, because we've talked about this. 584 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,720 It's for the clothes. 585 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,880 It's for the clothes. 586 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,560 It's for the probably lack of too much responsibility and less to do. 587 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,520 Women didn't have to have jobs, so she'd have a lot more time to scroll on social media, 588 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,640 but not for all of the problems of the 1950s. 589 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,840 So let's not cancel us just yet. 590 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,920 I agree though. 591 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:19,160 I think you are someone who gets afraid of attaching those words to themselves, because 592 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800 for a long time they had horrible stigmas. 593 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,920 Like depression still has a horrible stigma to some. 594 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:32,640 Depression is a disease that can be fixed chemically with proper medication and proper 595 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,640 medical help. 596 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,760 There's nothing wrong technically with having depression. 597 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,640 But what the media, I think the media and what's put out there so often is all of the 598 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,760 problems and people who aren't dealing with depression well is what gets put out more. 599 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:55,880 I do feel that since COVID, having those feelings and saying it is more normalized. 600 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,880 Accepted. 601 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,880 Yeah. 602 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,880 Totally. 603 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,000 I know we've said that before too, but actually I've been reading that seasonal depression 604 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,080 has skyrocketed since COVID, because a lot of people lived alone. 605 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,600 I mean, how long was COVID? 606 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,600 I mean, 12 years. 607 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,160 12, it's as long as January. 608 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,320 But the blahs, I guess after reading it, it really is the same. 609 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,320 It's the same. 610 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,760 You're afraid to say you're sad. 611 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,080 I think everyone's afraid to say that they're sad, because you don't want to, the purpose, 612 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,080 quote unquote, and I'm quoting this because I don't agree with this, is that you have 613 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,400 to be happy. 614 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,440 Life is meant to be happy. 615 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,680 And that means you can't be sad, but life is meant to find joy. 616 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,520 So you have to go through the emotions of sadness to feel joy. 617 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,720 I was just going to say that one of the things for the blahs, which can also mean something 618 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:54,280 for seasonal depression, is to rediscover new ways to experience joy by building routines. 619 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,000 People that have routines, I feel because I love routines. 620 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,920 I've loved them since grade school. 621 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,440 I like to know what I'm doing. 622 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,520 I like to plan. 623 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,720 I don't like chaos. 624 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,120 I don't like to write it down. 625 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,680 I don't because my brain is just so great that I just know. 626 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560 But routines make me feel happy. 627 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,120 I know what I'm walking into. 628 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,120 Yeah. 629 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,120 I mean, don't get me wrong. 630 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Surprises are one of our favorite things. 631 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,320 But you're talking about a daily regimen. 632 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,320 Yes. 633 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,360 And that is a way to experience joy and keep yourself on a schedule, whether that be a 634 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:35,640 food schedule, an exercise plan, a just daily plan, an alarm clock in the morning to get 635 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,240 you up and get you started. 636 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:44,280 I mean, we both have talked about that this year, whether it was on the podcast or not. 637 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,520 We get up earlier when we don't have to so that we can enjoy to sit down and enjoy the 638 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:55,280 morning and have coffee in solitude versus rushing around, putting it in a to-go cup, 639 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,040 getting everything ready, heading out the door, which is how I did it for a really long time. 640 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,200 Well, I think that's how we grew up. 641 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,800 We rushed a lot. 642 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,080 So I don't like to do that now. 643 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Yeah, but we've made that joyous moment a part of our routine. 644 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Right. 645 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,560 That's what I'm doing. 646 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,200 And that is, yeah, could we get another 30, 45 minutes of sleep? 647 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,200 We could. 648 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Yeah. 649 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,120 But that would rush us and start the day off, frazzled. 650 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,240 So it's how, and that's to me, I'd rather wake up early. 651 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,720 Some people can roll out of bed and go right to it. 652 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,720 I cannot. 653 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,720 I did that. 654 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,160 I've been sleeping for so many years and I hated it because I was like, by the time 655 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,120 I get home, I'm just going to bed to wake up and feel crazed and I'm not really sleeping 656 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,120 well anyway. 657 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:44,360 So once you find that routine and yeah, wake up earlier to have coffee and peace, you can 658 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,960 go to sleep a lot easier. 659 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720 It just feels easier to do. 660 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:55,000 And if you do every tip we've ever told you in the past year, your sleep will be amazing. 661 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,160 You'll stop scrolling. 662 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600 You'll stop wasting your time. 663 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,960 One of these days, I'm going to do them. 664 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,960 Yeah. 665 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,800 We won't hold our breath because we'll die. 666 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,560 But it is all tied to the time you take to do self-care. 667 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,280 And it is also on a timeline. 668 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,120 It will be over. 669 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,480 If we're just talking about seasonal depression, it will be over. 670 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,120 So if you can remember that. 671 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,200 Yeah, just seasonal depression. 672 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,600 We're just talking about seasonal depression or the blahs, it will be over. 673 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,120 There is a timeline. 674 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200 So you have that to look forward to. 675 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,320 It's just how to get through that. 676 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:41,600 So January, February and March are not the longest years that you've had. 677 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,280 We're kind of like, I kind of have to be a plant person for this, I think, but we're 678 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,560 kind of like a plant. 679 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,560 Okay. 680 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,060 If you think of it that way. 681 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:52,160 Because what does a plant do? 682 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600 It shows you it needs to be watered. 683 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,600 And it gets less sun in the wintertime, even if it's an outdoor plant or an indoor plant. 684 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,880 So when your plant starts to droop, you look at it and go, oh my gosh, I have to go get 685 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,880 some water. 686 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,880 And then you water that plant. 687 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,600 And if you walk away for about 15, 20 minutes and you turn back around, it's perky again. 688 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Because all it needs is to be a little bit fed. 689 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:20,940 But it's going to tell you when it's drooping and dreary and needs a little bit of care. 690 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:23,120 We are the exact same way. 691 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:29,320 We just have way more going on in our heads to distract us from making that the priority. 692 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,120 That is the only plant reference I will agree with. 693 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,960 You happen to be sitting in front of my jungle. 694 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,240 And that's what I was thinking about. 695 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,400 And you know what else happens, because I'm looking at this plant over here, sometimes 696 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,120 they turn brown and the leaves die. 697 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,800 But that's a good thing. 698 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,720 And then all you have to do is trim it off and it regrows healthier, bigger, better and 699 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,720 stronger. 700 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,400 I mean, you're making me want to buy a plant. 701 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400 No, you'll kill it. 702 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Just to kill it. 703 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,400 Yeah. 704 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,400 But you know what? 705 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,400 You are raising three little plants. 706 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,680 And they're doing pretty well. 707 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:11,000 God, that little one is really growing on extra speed there, too. 708 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,440 It's like Ivy. 709 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,200 But it's very, it's all about perspective, too. 710 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,680 Because when, just like we said, when you're in it, it's really hard. 711 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,040 It's really hard to see the forest from the trees and see the light when it's a really 712 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,640 dreary January day. 713 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:39,960 But we hope that this however long podcast gives you that little bit of light or comedy 714 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,680 or laughter or happiness that you need to perk up a little bit. 715 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,960 Because I know that music does that for me. 716 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,800 Some other podcasts do that for me as well. 717 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:57,120 And if we can take you away from the dreariness of the years of January, then we're happy 718 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,120 to do that. 719 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,600 So we hope you went towards the light with this one. 720 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Don't stressy. 721 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,200 You're just seasonal depressy. 722 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,560 Tell me you just made that up. 723 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,320 Tell me you just made it up right now. 724 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,200 Oh my God. 725 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,520 I'm so embarrassed. 726 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,760 I'm actually embarrassed of you right now. 727 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760 Don't stressy. 728 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,600 I'm making shorts. 729 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,600 Don't stressy. 730 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,240 It's just seasonal depressy. 731 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:28,720 Flying off the shelves there. 732 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:32,840 I'm so mortified for your existence. 733 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,640 So I accept it. 734 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,760 I think that's the difference. 735 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,240 I accept it. 736 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:39,880 I know you're weird. 737 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,880 I'm healthy. 738 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,240 The healthier you are, the weirder everybody thinks you are. 739 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:47,640 True that. 740 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,640 You're very normal. 741 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,280 I'm a hustler baby. 742 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,240 That means you're unhealthy. 743 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,520 I just want you to know. 744 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,800 Hustlers are super unhealthy. 745 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,800 I'm waning. 746 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,800 Oh my God. 747 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,800 For a little recap. 748 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,800 Recap. 749 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,800 That's a remix. 750 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,800 I know. 751 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,800 Did you see what I did? 752 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,680 Did you see what I did? 753 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,000 That was me off the cuff. 754 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,880 That was me making stuff up. 755 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,880 Get on the cuff. 756 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,000 Get back on the cuff. 757 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Remix. 758 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000 I mean, recap. 759 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,520 God damn it. 760 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120 Recap. 761 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:37,080 Look for cues of your seasonal effective disorder possibilities. 762 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,680 Are you low energy? 763 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,200 Are you quote unquote sad, a little gloomy? 764 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,280 Do you not want to hang out with your friends? 765 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,840 Do you not want to do social events? 766 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,680 Or is your brain a little bit fuzzy for long periods of time? 767 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,080 I'm just describing Carly. 768 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,400 I was just going to say I raised my hand for every single one. 769 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,400 Fine. 770 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,400 Fine. 771 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,400 I accept. 772 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,400 I accept. 773 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,400 Thank you. 774 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,400 Thank the Lord. 775 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,880 I literally was like, hello, Lluia. 776 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,880 But those are the cues. 777 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,640 And if you just feel like you're okay, but you're feeling blah. 778 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,360 Okay, let's tie it all in. 779 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,360 Thank you. 780 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,560 That could be a seasonal effective disorder. 781 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,360 So what do you do? 782 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,880 Force yourself to stay a little bit more social when your friend or your family member texts 783 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,120 you to have coffee. 784 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,120 Go do it. 785 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,120 Just go do it. 786 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,120 And stick to it. 787 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120 Don't bail. 788 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,440 And then maybe the next day you don't go out. 789 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,720 So to find a balance. 790 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,840 Everything is about balance. 791 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:42,520 Talk to a doctor if you want to look into cognitive behavioral therapy or bright light 792 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,920 therapy or medication if it needs to get to that point. 793 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:55,400 And then think about changing your diet or at least eating more of the right foods. 794 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,440 Mediterranean diet, we've talked about it many times. 795 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:06,800 It is just fish, veggies, protein from plants, fruits, olive oil, no processed sugars, no 796 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,680 sugar, no whatever. 797 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,960 Eat healthy. 798 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960 Just eat healthy. 799 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,440 I agree to all of that. 800 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,320 And my biggest thing would be if you make plans a month in advance. 801 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,040 And I know, I know it's hard because a month from now you're going to say, yeah, I want 802 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,040 to do that. 803 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,040 I want to do that. 804 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,920 And then it gets closer and closer and you're like, why did I say yes to this? 805 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,080 I am the complete opposite. 806 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,320 I don't want to make the plan a month before. 807 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,000 I don't want to know it. 808 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,400 And if it comes up in the moment, yeah, sure, I'll do it. 809 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,680 I'll probably be really excited about it. 810 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,080 But making the plan, somebody asking me, hey, what are you doing on this date two months 811 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,080 from now? 812 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,080 I'm like nothing. 813 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,080 I'm doing nothing and I'm going, I don't know. 814 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,080 I don't want to do it. 815 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,080 I'm the opposite. 816 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:56,520 I am very much like, yeah, that sounds awesome in the end of February. 817 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,640 And then the end of February comes and I'm like, oh my God, why did I say yes to this? 818 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040 Either way, I'm both, you're both. 819 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,040 I'm grumpy cat. 820 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,320 Does that mean I'm smelly cat? 821 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,520 Smelly cat, smelly cat. 822 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,800 It's so blah, that cat. 823 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,320 But for real, for reals, for real, for real, for real. 824 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Make the plans, stick to them. 825 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,720 Doesn't have to be a lot of plans. 826 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:34,160 Just pick one, go to it and you, that will help you get out, get socialized. 827 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:40,840 It's hard, sometimes it's uncomfortable, but it will. 828 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,240 What will it do? 829 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,440 Help. 830 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,080 Are you asking for it? 831 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,720 Are you asking for somebody to come see me? 832 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,040 No, just stick to the plans. 833 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,320 Go out with your friends a few times. 834 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,040 Doesn't have to be a lot. 835 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,440 Socialize yourself. 836 00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,440 Stick to it. 837 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,240 Sticking to it is the hardest part. 838 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:07,640 And remember, it is only temporary. 839 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,840 Everything is temporary. 840 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,040 Nothing is permanent. 841 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,760 There is a light at the end of the tunnel. 842 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,920 You will get out of this dark season of no sunlight and it will change. 843 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:23,920 So if you can remember that and also remember that you are always fit to be real and always 844 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:32,520 allowed to be a little extra. 845 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,920 I'm gonna throw some melatonin gummies at you. 846 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,040 I'm honest to God, I thought you were gonna be like, and remember, it's only January. 847 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,920 I was sitting there like this. 848 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,680 Oh my God, that's depressing. 849 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,480 It's four more months. 850 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,880 The ground top of depression. 851 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,520 It's only January. 852 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,720 For legal reasons, we have to tell you that this podcast is meant for entertainment and 853 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:57,520 educational purposes only. 854 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,720 We are not healthcare professionals. 855 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:03,840 For all of your health, wellness, fitness, and self-care needs, please refer to the medical 856 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,520 professional in your life. 857 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,600 Your primary care physician, your therapist, a certified coach, whoever it may be. 858 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,640 And then let us know what they say because I guarantee we need to know what to do. 859 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,640 Okay? 860 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:22,640 Okay, bye.