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Welcome to Fit to Be Real and a little extra.

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Welcome to our tell all episode of the history of wrong guys.

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You wanted the tea.

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And Victoria usually does not give out this information, so she's decided to put it on a podcast.

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Yeah, actually you decided in the last episode and said I had to and that's how it happened.

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It's a form of therapy.

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Sherry told me yesterday after listening to the podcast from last week, she said,

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the kettle was dry.

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There was not a spill the tea.

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I was like, it's coming.

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It's coming.

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The kettle was dry.

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You put me on the spot and I feel like this might be funny.

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So yes, your relationships are funny.

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I went through everything to timeline it out and like try to remember.

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I'm also changing names and I was like, wow, I've I've been through a lot.

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And so have I because I went through it too.

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That's why every one of them left.

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Kidding.

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Sort of.

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This all begins in 2012.

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So I graduated college in 2011.

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And I didn't date before then.

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No, I that was the year I got married.

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I'm sorry.

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It wasn't the year you got married.

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I left my graduation from my college.

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I left the stage and got in the car to go to Carly's wedding.

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So yes, in any case, I didn't have time.

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You didn't have time and you again were in the musical theater department.

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So the pickings were slim.

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The pickings were gay.

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The pickings were very gay.

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The pickings were gay.

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We love the gays.

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I dated them all.

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So my first experience was off of match.com.

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But remember, if you listen back to some of our other episodes, match.com was different.

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Yeah, it was like the first big launch of online dating.

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And it was one of the only apps or wasn't even an app at the time.

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You had to be on a desktop and people were writing full emails.

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Like you really get a good grasp of people.

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So I met a guy we're going to call Benny.

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Oh, OK.

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But he was a construction type guy.

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I know who you're talking about.

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With lots of daddy issues.

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Oh, Benny and mommy issues and step daddy issues.

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But he was the type of guy.

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It was fun because he was super sweet.

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But he he wasn't that like put on a suit, go to work guy.

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We went camping.

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Yeah, we did, you know,

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Victoria dressed in a lot of camouflage during this relationship.

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I did.

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John Deere was the output of choice.

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Yup.

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And I was like, what are you got some turquoise cowboy boots I've been trying to sell for years of anybody wants them.

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But yeah, so the long and short of this one is that I was also starting my first like professional show.

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I was doing hairspray at the media theater.

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And that was like such an experience.

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It was awesome.

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But it was also tainted by this relationship to a degree.

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Because driving to Kentucky for Billy's wedding.

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I found a little thing we like to call Suboxone.

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You know what Suboxone is?

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I did a lot of research at the time, but I've kind of blocked it all out.

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So Suboxone is the little like pill or chewable thing you take to help wean you off of heroin.

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Oh my gosh.

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Or hard drugs.

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I mean, I knew about the hard drugs, but I don't know what Suboxone.

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I didn't know what Suboxone was.

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It's like what you it's how they help you.

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So I found them in like the hotel motel and had no idea what the heck.

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So basically he was a lie extraordinaire.

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And he was really, really good at being an addict.

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And that's what he was.

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And I didn't know.

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And I fought it in my brain and I fought it.

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I fought mom.

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I mean, I think when you when we found out we were like, oh no, this has got to stop.

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And you were like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Well, I thought I believed him.

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Turns out he was not only stealing money from me, but then he's decided to steal from a casino in Delaware and he got arrested.

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Clearly we had already been terminated by that point.

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But I do remember my birthday that year.

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I was headed to a show to do hairspray and I had to sit on a phone for a family intervention.

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And they all were trying to help him get into like rehab and stuff.

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And he continued to try to send me letters from jail for a while.

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And I asked that to stop.

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I was living in New York.

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You were like, please stop sending me letters from jail.

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I have recently found that he's doing wonderfully.

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He's married.

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He has a new dog and hopefully things are good for him.

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He stole your debit card and used it at Wawa.

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And wow, I forgot.

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Remember that?

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And we were like, Victoria, he stole your debit card and used it like and stole money from you while you guys were dating.

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You were like, no, not he couldn't be.

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Then who?

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We were like, it's him.

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It's Benny.

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I didn't want to be told.

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He was also like always at mom's house and like semi would stay there sometimes.

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So he was like living there, but not really.

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He has an apartment in his own place, but mom had a bad vibe and continuously tried to tell me about it.

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And I was just fighting that because I already knew.

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Oh, I mean, I didn't want to hear it.

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Then we move on to Chip.

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Chip.

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Oh gosh, who's Chip?

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Chip lived out in Westchester, New York.

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So not in Manhattan proper, which is where I lived.

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And we met on match.com as well.

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And this was a preppy guy.

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So this is very different than Camo.

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He was bougie.

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Money was an interesting topic, even though he was like presented himself as a really nice guy and had nothing to do with that.

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He's what made New York kind of fun though for me because I went to a lot of clubs at night and I never did the club scene before or after this relationship.

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And that was a brand new experience.

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And I kind of had, I was the first time I had fun.

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It wasn't just like working in New York.

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We had fun.

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We would do like, we went to the zoo up in the Upper East Side and we would walk around Manhattan and we would go to different places.

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Like it was kind of that Hallmark New York experience.

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Very briefly I got to experience that and then I never did again.

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He was also opening a fitness business.

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And I helped him with, he would like send me things to proofread and ideas and should I buy this or should I buy this?

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So like I was there for all of his, you know, starting his baby project of this business, which I now believe is he sold and started a new one.

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Like he's doing really well, I think.

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Oh, Chip.

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This is also when I broke my hip.

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I broke my hip running for exercise with Carly down the shore first or second day of our vacation and I broke my hip.

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At what?

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24?

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24, yeah.

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Only 24 year old to ever break your hip.

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And I'll never forget we're sitting, mom drove me home to a proper hospital and we're sitting there like waiting for X-ray results and she was like, will she be allowed to have children?

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I'll never forget the slow side eye I gave her of like,

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Are you kidding me?

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Oh my gosh.

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I mean, that's, I'm not that surprised that that was the question she asked, but, but yeah, so I broke my hip.

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Carly had to wheel me with a PCB pipe wheelchair on the beach and she was embarrassing.

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Embarrassing for who, Carly?

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Because you would literally be wheeling me onto the beach going, she's fine.

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She's not even hurt.

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I mean, she's mine.

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It's for show.

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There's no cast.

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I am then packing beach chairs on top of me.

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And then we were like, if you're going to sit there, you're going to hold the rest of our stuff.

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But with that said, when I moved back to New York, still like, wait, wait, wait, Chip showed up.

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To the beach to see how you were.

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Because he, we had called Chip to tell him what happened.

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She broke her hip.

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She can't walk.

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He came to our family shore house to check on you for less than 12 hours.

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Very, very short.

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He came back here to Ocean City, New Jersey, stayed for dinner.

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And left because he had to go back to work and everyone was like, oh my gosh, this guy is like amazing.

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Who does that?

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He's a very good actor.

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He's such a good, like wholesome person, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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So when I got back to New York, still recovering, but got back to work, it was like a different experience, right?

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So breaking anything in New York City is a really hard thing to do to get around and maneuver and be mobile.

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And I remember probably getting into a little bit of, I don't think depression is the word, but I was like trying to grasp on to what life was before.

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So if I'm going to be an adult and be mature enough to look back, I got needy.

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And I needed a lot from him and I wanted him to come into the city more to see me and I couldn't get to him on my own.

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So like that was the only avenue.

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Well, in defense of your neediness, you needed help.

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Sometimes you need help or sometimes it's nice to have somebody else there.

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So I understand your neediness.

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I understand.

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Well, I'm not dating you.

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So that's nice.

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Thank God.

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But I think we are.

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But anyway, you would call me and be like, I just need chip time.

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And I was like, that's chip time.

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Who needs chip time?

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Why can't I be there for chip time?

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And like, basically, he was rekindling a relationship with a girl friend or girl that he had known before.

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And I kind of caught the vibe on this.

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So I did the sneaky, you know, murder, she wrote thing and I went into his emails and I read correspondence and I read that he had an opening business party that he had launched his business that I had helped him with.

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And he did the full party that I knew was going to happen.

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He had already done it and she was invited.

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I saw pictures and she was there.

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He denied that till the day we stopped talking.

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He denied it.

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He actually pre not today or yesterday in my research of remembering all these relationships.

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I looked into an email.

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He loved bombed me till the very end.

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He was a coward.

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Coward would be the word, right?

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So he loved bombing to the very end and was like, and by the way, it was just friends and family invited.

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She wasn't there.

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And I'm like, here's a picture that I saw from your email.

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You got to be kidding me.

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It was shocking.

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He presented himself pretty well.

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But he did.

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He was my first adult vacation with Atlantic City.

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It's the first time I ever did that.

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We traveled to a road trip to Boston to visit his family.

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I was the first girl he ever brought to his family.

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Like, so there's so many things that he was looking for and finding himself in.

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So hopefully he's happily married now.

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Then we move on.

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Yeah, this one's a good one to Timmy.

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Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy.

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What could possibly be said about Timmy?

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Oh, I have some things to say about Timmy.

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Timmy lived in an extension of New York, New Jersey, and I lived in Manhattan.

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However, we had reconnected in our 20s via an Instagram DM.

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I went to grade school with Timmy.

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And on paper, it was like perfect.

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I mean, we were like, this is it.

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Yeah, this is it.

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Yeah, we did it, guys.

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Mom said she prayed that when I went and did a contract of a show called West Side Story in Urshinside,

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she prayed that I would meet someone.

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And then I reconnected with Timmy.

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And she was like, I did this.

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I did this.

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Yeah, Mom, you did this.

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Well, if you did this, shame on you.

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Shame on you.

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So yes, on paper, it was like the perfect Cinderella story type of thing, right?

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It couldn't have been farther from that in so many ways.

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Our families had dinner together.

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Dinners.

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We spent a more real day together.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Barbecues.

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But it was always a little weird.

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Yeah.

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It was very weird.

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I think we are close.

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Yes.

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Timmy got real close with some of his family members.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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The family was uncomfortably close in our opinion.

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I can only speak on what I experienced and what I know.

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And one of the big factors to splitting was that there was a sibling vacation,

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a weekend trip just for his siblings.

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And it was basically his siblings and their partners and not me.

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Right.

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And I was very confused by this.

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And one of the last times he, you know, his parents were in New York.

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I was like, OK, well, I'll come meet you.

284
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And he was like, no, my mom just wants Timmy time.

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Timmy time.

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Timmy time.

287
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Yep.

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Chip time, Timmy time.

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I remember that.

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Timmy time.

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Lots of Timmy time was needed.

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And it was just things that the differences in, even though we grew up in the same town

293
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with similar close family morals, couldn't the differences outweighed anything?

294
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And that very close family relationship that was, you know, rubbing your siblings' feet

295
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on the couch after dinner.

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Don't even try.

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Oh my gosh.

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I sat there and I would be like.

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Skewed.

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What's she doing?

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And all of them, parents alike would be like, what?

302
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Like it's weird.

303
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Yeah.

304
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I was like, kind of.

305
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After dinner was music time.

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He sat in the lounge living room area and you had to listen to music.

307
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And it was, you know, it was nice family moments.

308
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There's nothing wrong with that.

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I was still, remember I'm young at this point too.

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So I also thought this is the end of.

311
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We all thought this was the end game.

312
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We talked about it.

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We had these conversations.

314
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But he wanted me to be his sister.

315
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Yeah.

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He told me I should dye my hair black.

317
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And they were all very thin and trim.

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And I, you know, was not.

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And so it was a lot of these things that made me uncomfortable, but like it was Timmy.

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So, but I do remember crying a lot because we would go out in New York and I would have

321
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won too many or we would be having a good time and it always ended in tears because I was

322
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never, there was something wrong.

323
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You know, oh, I remember.

324
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So I'll never forget sitting in the Starbucks on Baltimore Pike in Pennsylvania for the townies,

325
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you know where I am.

326
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And having this big conversation about why siblings weekend involved everyone outside

327
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of siblings, but me and why in your twenties do you have to go do a sibling weekend with

328
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your two sisters.

329
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And I remember sitting there going, do you even love me anymore?

330
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And he was like, no, I remember this conversation.

331
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No.

332
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And it was craziness ensued.

333
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There was also a weird thing about the woman's place and money.

334
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I'll never forget him coming over at Christmas.

335
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We wouldn't do holidays.

336
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I remember.

337
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No, no, no, no.

338
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He would not come over at holidays, but he came over on Christmas Eve, like morning or

339
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maybe it was Christmas day morning.

340
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I don't even remember.

341
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And he was making jokes about how his mom was just a part time physician.

342
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She wasn't even full time.

343
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She wasn't bringing in the money.

344
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And my mom and I, we looked and we were like, I was there.

345
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What?

346
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I remember that.

347
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I can't even remember what it was exactly said, but it was the most outlandish, sexist

348
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thing I think I've ever heard anyone say in real life, not on like a social media platform.

349
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Yeah.

350
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And it was just alarming.

351
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It was alarming.

352
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And I remember having conversations with him after that being like, I'm never going to

353
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make as much money as you ever.

354
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I'm going to run a business with my sister and we're never going to make money.

355
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We're never going to make money.

356
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You have to be okay with that.

357
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You can't compare and blah, blah, blah, blah.

358
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Yeah.

359
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That didn't go over well.

360
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000
Yep.

361
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,280
There were so many things about Timmy that made us uncomfortable, but we wanted it so

362
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:19,000
badly that we even as a family tried to ignore it.

363
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,000
Well, good riddance.

364
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000
Well, hopefully he's doing well.

365
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000
Yeah, sure.

366
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000
But you know, Brad was a bro.

367
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Bro, Brad lived in a mannyunk.

368
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,000
Okay.

369
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,000
Oh, Brad.

370
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Brad.

371
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We saw this.

372
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Brad was fun.

373
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Brad was fun.

374
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Met him on Bumble.

375
00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,080
This is when Bumble started to come on the scene.

376
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I'm that old.

377
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,000
I remember when these apps started.

378
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000
Yeah.

379
00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000
Okay.

380
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000
You're not that old.

381
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,000
But with that in perspective of like when these apps were, this was like huge.

382
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,000
We were like, what?

383
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000
You can swipe?

384
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,720
Well, that's when swipe left, swipe right started.

385
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,040
And I was not a part of this yet.

386
00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,040
Not with Brad.

387
00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,520
Cause I would have been like, nah.

388
00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,320
Well, he didn't want, he was afraid of commitment.

389
00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,320
Right.

390
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,520
I told him, I remember sitting at a bar with his friends from college and he was saying

391
00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,120
why he couldn't commit to something like a weekend ahead plan that we were all trying

392
00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,120
to make.

393
00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:14,800
And I looked at him and I went, your commitment issues are boring.

394
00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,800
Yeah.

395
00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,240
And they cheered.

396
00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,920
He was the only and first guy that was ever younger than me that I ever dated because

397
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I can't do that.

398
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,480
Yeah.

399
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,720
I mean, he was a total frat boy.

400
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,720
He was a frat boy.

401
00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,440
He lived with a bunch of dudes and manny on after college.

402
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,440
But gorgeous.

403
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,960
But didn't matter.

404
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,200
Lots of family issues.

405
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,280
All of these people have family issues, which we all do.

406
00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,280
We all do.

407
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:44,640
But I attract, I attract what they, they have been missing and then it falls apart.

408
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,640
Right.

409
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,800
So do as I say, not as I do.

410
00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,280
But we went to Coachella because Andrew's company was spearheading it.

411
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,280
So there was a huge discount.

412
00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,040
I have to say that because that is the only way I could have gone to Coachella.

413
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,000
There was a giant family discount due to Andrew.

414
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000
So thank you, Andrew.

415
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000
No, thank you, Andrew.

416
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,600
Coachella was awesome, super fun.

417
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,600
It's a cool experience.

418
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,800
I'm glad that I did.

419
00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,520
But he was just trying to get to Coachella.

420
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,520
Right.

421
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,600
Like one of the things was the airplane getting, getting to California.

422
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,280
We were sitting at two different seats and it's the first time I ever flew to California

423
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,400
or that long by myself.

424
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,080
Even when I studied abroad in Italy, I went with two friends who were friends at the start

425
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,080
and we sat together.

426
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,800
So it was the first time I was like, ask the people next to you if they would move or vice

427
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,080
versa or whatever.

428
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,160
So he was the row in front of me, but to the right.

429
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,200
So I could see his like through the aisle and he's texted like we're texting each other.

430
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,480
Have you like, I was like, have you asked them?

431
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,480
What's the deal?

432
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,640
I have to do this before he take off and he was like, yeah, just ask them and I was watching

433
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,640
him.

434
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,640
And he did not.

435
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,640
Yeah.

436
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,920
And he didn't even lift his head to look at the people next to him, but was telling me

437
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,920
that he did.

438
00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,200
And that was like, ooh, and that was going to the weekend.

439
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,880
So I was like, that doesn't feel great.

440
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,560
So we did Coachella and it was super fun.

441
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,560
He had friends there.

442
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,640
We met up with friends there.

443
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,000
Like it was, it was a good experience.

444
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,280
I will not take that away, but he did tell me there that he had, he was afraid of commitment.

445
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,520
So I didn't believe that and I didn't care.

446
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,520
Yeah.

447
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,520
Of course.

448
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,720
You heard it, but you didn't hear it.

449
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:21,720
Yeah.

450
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,200
Cause I was still young, stupid and like you're at Coachella, you're having so much fun.

451
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,400
And he was really fun.

452
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:32,280
Like he, he did care about me until he didn't, which is when we got home and I wanted like

453
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,680
a little bit more serious and he was just really, really pulling away from that in all

454
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,680
avenues.

455
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,320
If you remember, I can see myself standing in old seat fit at the window in the back

456
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:48,440
by the door because he was like breaking plans with us that night.

457
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,320
And I was like, what do you mean you can't come?

458
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,520
Like I want to talk to you cause I wanted to either end it or like figure out what's

459
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,520
going on.

460
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,920
And he was like, something came up and I was like, did you just something came up?

461
00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,920
Did you?

462
00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:00,920
What?

463
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,480
I'm laughing now, but it was again, he was in our family.

464
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,480
Like he knew Melody.

465
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,400
Melody was born at the time and Lewis.

466
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,160
So like he had met the kids a bunch of times he's, he hung out at mom's house.

467
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,600
Lewis would call him bad if his name was Brad.

468
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,000
Like he had a name for his actual name and it was like so cute.

469
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000
Yeah.

470
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,000
And he gave me that.

471
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000
Yeah.

472
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000
So like he came to Disney on ice with us.

473
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000
I know.

474
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,440
The thing is these guys would become invested in our families because our family was super

475
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,080
fun and we did things.

476
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,480
And then so when they left, it was heartbreaking to all of us.

477
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,480
Yeah.

478
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,880
Because so happy for you all.

479
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,880
Yeah.

480
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,880
I'm sad that you guys went through that.

481
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,880
It was really hard for us.

482
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,680
Well, I will say Chip called mom.

483
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,680
Yes.

484
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,680
That is one thing I will remember.

485
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,720
Chip, we have to go back to Chip real quick.

486
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:55,840
Preppy New Yorker cheater called mom and broke up with mom and was like, I'm so sorry.

487
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,480
And mom was like, why are you calling me?

488
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,040
And I remember her, I didn't know that happened and she told me she was like, Victoria, that's

489
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,040
a weird thing to do.

490
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,040
It is a weird thing to do.

491
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,040
That's odd.

492
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,160
He had to be liked and needed to feel bad about himself.

493
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,160
Yes.

494
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,240
He did not want to feel bad about himself.

495
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,360
So he made up lies.

496
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:15,560
Then there was Terrell and Terrell's name did not change.

497
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,360
Terrell, it was Terrell because Terrell is a great guy.

498
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,840
We love Terrell.

499
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,160
And I was so sad about Terrell.

500
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,600
Terrell was separating from a marriage.

501
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,760
He had two kids and it was just bad timing and he didn't know what he could do or manage

502
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,720
with kids and a girlfriend and what he really wanted.

503
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,120
And I was just turning 30.

504
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,360
It was like, it wasn't good timing.

505
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,360
It just wasn't right.

506
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,560
It wasn't good timing, but he was the nicest human.

507
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,080
But I loved Terrell.

508
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,760
Terrell was a real and he was beautiful.

509
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,920
Yes, he was.

510
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,120
Mom wasn't super happy because he had two kids.

511
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,120
Yes, I know.

512
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:57,840
When I told mom that I met a guy that was really, really, really genuinely a nice guy,

513
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,640
and then I said he has two kids.

514
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,640
She went, run away.

515
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,200
Those were the words and she said, run away.

516
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,600
And I said, what? and she was like, run.

517
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,920
You'll never be a priority.

518
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,680
You'll never be a priority.

519
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,680
And that's true.

520
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,000
I mean, that's true.

521
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000
It's true.

522
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,400
If you have children, they should be your priority no matter what phase you're in.

523
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,560
But I don't think that necessarily means it would have been a bad relationship if he

524
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,440
could have given whatever he could have given.

525
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,640
And at the time, it just, it was just bad timing.

526
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,640
He was super hot.

527
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,760
Yeah, he was a beautiful man.

528
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,120
And he was kinder than he was beautiful.

529
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:31,120
So that was even better.

530
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:32,120
I'll never forget.

531
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:33,120
We went to R&B night.

532
00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:37,600
I didn't know any of the words, but I danced my little heart out.

533
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,840
It was so fun.

534
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,240
And this next not real relationship, but this next guy, Dustin, was all bumble.

535
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,240
Dustin.

536
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,880
It was really bumble from the way out.

537
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:54,480
I did hinge, but I never really met anybody normal that I could, I could bear talking

538
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,480
to for a while.

539
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,240
Dustin was a not real relationship.

540
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,240
Yeah.

541
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,480
Now, Dustin was what you called an F boy to the nth degree.

542
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,000
And I won't stay too long on Dustin because Dustin wasn't an actual relationship.

543
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Dustin was an experience.

544
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,120
I had a relationship with Dustin.

545
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:16,680
I had a relationship because Carly's bathroom got renovated by Dustin and his crew of misfits.

546
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,600
But yeah, it turned out Dustin also had a full time girlfriend.

547
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,640
And the only story I will give about Dustin that will really represent, I think, who he

548
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:29,600
was was that when I found out about all of this, which was before I thought on the stairs

549
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,600
Christmas 2020.

550
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,560
So that's where we are in the grand scheme of like the years we've made it to 2020.

551
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:40,200
He would call his mom and ask his mom to change the location on the phone that he had in his

552
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280
room because he lived with his mom at the time.

553
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,200
And his girlfriend would check that location.

554
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,640
So it would show that it was at that house and not in Springfield, Pennsylvania or Swathmore.

555
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,480
I lived in Swathmore at the time.

556
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280
And I was like, oh, you're like not a good person.

557
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,280
Yeah.

558
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,560
Like you're a really bad person.

559
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,320
But also he was around our family a lot because he was a charmer.

560
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,560
Oh, he was an F-boy to the nth degree.

561
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,920
He loved, I can't wait for you to explain that to our aunt Vicki when she texts us,

562
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,720
listening to this episode, asking what that is.

563
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,200
That's perfect.

564
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,200
I will tell her.

565
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,880
Vicki, I got you.

566
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,040
But he was with our family all the time.

567
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,600
And Victoria one night literally said, don't learn his name.

568
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,640
He will not be around for much longer.

569
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,840
It was our birthday outing.

570
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,840
Don't learn his name.

571
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,840
He won't be around.

572
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,840
Yeah.

573
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,000
He randomly texted me like last year, last summer, and I never responded.

574
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,680
Well, so they did their little breakup from their non-relationship relationship.

575
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,280
It wasn't even anything to break up with.

576
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560
And I was like, Victoria, he's doing our bathroom.

577
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,560
Can he still do our bathroom?

578
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,080
Because he was our cheapest estimate.

579
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Yes.

580
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,080
Because I was in the hospital recovering from an injury and he would text me being like,

581
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,640
yo, I heard you're broken.

582
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Sucks, dude.

583
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,480
And I was high on fentanyl.

584
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,120
And I was like, what is happening, Dustin?

585
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,560
And he was like, met this chick, might go skiing.

586
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,560
What do you think?

587
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,560
No.

588
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,560
Like that was Dustin.

589
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,360
He was trying to be your friend afterwards.

590
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:15,440
But so Victoria had to see him every single day for 10 weeks while he renovated our bathroom.

591
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,040
And she was like, is Dustin there?

592
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,960
I'm like, Dustin's always here.

593
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,080
She's like, I'll come in.

594
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,440
I made him a lot of sandwiches.

595
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,440
Yeah.

596
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840
He owns me a lot of bread.

597
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,440
And then we've made it to Gunther.

598
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,440
Gunther.

599
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,000
What a name this Gunther.

600
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,600
Gunther was also bumble.

601
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,760
Gunther was the most recent.

602
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,760
We all know Gunther.

603
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,880
We all know the Gunther.

604
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,320
And I found a quote.

605
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000
So I was looking, I'm not going to lie to you all.

606
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,520
I was looking through Instagram to find the timelines.

607
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,560
I have no recollection of time of order of these people or whatever.

608
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,280
And this is the perfect way to describe Gunther.

609
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Even as when they blame you for your reaction to their disrespect.

610
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,520
That was Gunther.

611
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,520
Yeah.

612
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,520
In a nutshell.

613
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,520
In a nutshell.

614
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,320
So all things aside, it was whirlwind.

615
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,680
He loved bombing from the start and I didn't know what love bombing was until I got into

616
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,240
therapy after Gunther.

617
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,040
But that's what it was at the start.

618
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,600
Intense, crazy whirlwind of like excitement and oh my gosh.

619
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,520
And I'm not going to lie to you.

620
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,800
I had that, oh, this is it.

621
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,280
This is the guy.

622
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,680
Because and I stick by that, I'm not going to regret that I felt that.

623
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,880
That's how I felt.

624
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,360
And it was the first time I remember when he rolled up to pick me up off of my family

625
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,920
vacation down the shore.

626
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,360
I remember getting in the car being like, oh, he feels very light.

627
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,480
Like I don't feel real dark around him.

628
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,960
And that was rare for me to feel with any prospect.

629
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,960
So I was, yeah.

630
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,280
Well, he couldn't have been the darkest person ever.

631
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,280
Darkest.

632
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,680
But listen, we loved him.

633
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,760
My kids, all three of my kids loved him.

634
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,680
But they didn't know him.

635
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,680
We didn't know him.

636
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,680
We didn't know him.

637
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,680
Yeah.

638
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,680
We didn't know the real Gunther.

639
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Now, he has a lot of unhealed trauma from childhood that I don't think he will ever

640
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,360
dive into and help himself with.

641
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,120
I think this is a pattern for him.

642
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,000
And I think he's probably doing it to the girl right now that he's with.

643
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,000
But the kids loved him.

644
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,840
He moved in to the house with me because I wasn't living in my apartment and I was living

645
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600
at mom's and he moved in.

646
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,440
All of this was within eight months.

647
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,440
Yes.

648
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,800
He moved in and he became a part of the house.

649
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,600
He became like when the kids got home from school, let's go see Gunther.

650
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,520
Which was also a part of the withdrawal.

651
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:38,640
So when the family stuff started really becoming real is when he started like a dissociative

652
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,080
episode indefinitely of withdrawing, not wanting to talk, didn't want to help with

653
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:50,120
the house, kind of needed an outlet to try to function of understanding that like this

654
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:54,800
was life but also loved it and also was happy with it and told me all these stories and

655
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,840
every time I would bring up how I felt, it was somehow an attack on him.

656
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,160
So the conflict that we had was toxic and it wasn't great because nobody was listening

657
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,480
to each other because it was all emotional and feelings based and yada yada yada.

658
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,560
The fun part of this story.

659
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Is there a fun part?

660
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,000
Because I was there the whole time.

661
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,880
I was literally there.

662
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,880
I don't remember it.

663
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,160
It was like a few times in quotations, well, it was awesome though until it wasn't.

664
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,320
It was awesome and little did you guys know what I was actually going through until the

665
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,800
end because I was dealing with it, tried to deal with it by myself.

666
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,400
Well, I think we knew.

667
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,560
You knew he withdrew but you didn't know the conversation like the fights we were having

668
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,000
and the all out all night long crazy battles and him driving away in the middle of the

669
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,320
night to go sleep in his car, which I don't actually think was true.

670
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400
I think he went to somebody else's house.

671
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,760
So if we broke up in April, we talked, we continued to talk because the goal was to

672
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,840
individually work on ourselves in the hopes that it would come back together.

673
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,520
And if it didn't, it didn't, but we firmly believed that it would because we were going

674
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,520
to do the work.

675
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760
So I was the only one that did the work on myself.

676
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,880
I'm still doing it.

677
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,600
I'm very happy for him or that he existed and happened because it kind of pulled me

678
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,440
into where I am now.

679
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640
So I won't, all of these relationships, I'm not going to regret.

680
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,680
I'm going to stop you right there real quick.

681
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,320
I don't think you would have gotten into yoga had you been with him because he would have

682
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,520
taken up so much of your time.

683
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,120
You wouldn't have felt like you could have taken that time for you to do yoga.

684
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,080
I don't think you would have gotten into it at all.

685
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,240
And I mean, you love it.

686
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,240
I agree.

687
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,240
I absolutely agree.

688
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,360
And I would call him after yoga and he'd be like, how was it?

689
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,160
Those conversations stopped.

690
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,600
He stopped asking and like things started to kind of trickle off because I was asking

691
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,520
him what he was doing to help himself.

692
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,080
And the answer was always, don't worry about him.

693
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,080
I'm working on it.

694
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,080
I'm working on it.

695
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,560
What he was actually working on while he was telling me what to do on how to work on myself

696
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,480
was that he had met somebody else and I had found Bumble Profile.

697
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,800
So it was like a whole hot mess of things.

698
00:29:53,800 --> 00:30:01,520
I did my Murdershire Road investigation and I went on the Instagram of the only source

699
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,160
that he hasn't blocked because he has since blocked me and Carly and Seafit and friends

700
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,160
and anybody else that he was connected with with me.

701
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,000
But I found a loophole and I found in and he as of February, we stopped talking in December.

702
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,120
As of February, he was doing a road trip with a girl who was claiming that it was the love

703
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,320
of her life.

704
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,800
So I don't really know the timeline, but manipulation is the number one, I think.

705
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,640
I've met some really good liars.

706
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,600
You, yeah, you really good liars.

707
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,360
I can't even explain it.

708
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,160
It's like they find you and you find them and then it's good for a while and then it's

709
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,320
not good for a really long time.

710
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,920
But Victoria is the type of person.

711
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,920
I just said this to somebody the other day.

712
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,600
She goes down with the ship.

713
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Victoria is loyal till the very end.

714
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,480
You said it a couple months ago on the episode.

715
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,480
Oh yeah.

716
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,360
But she is.

717
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,920
So like when things are going bad, she doesn't jump ship like a lot of people would like

718
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,400
these guys do.

719
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,000
She is like, no, we're going to fix this.

720
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000
We're going to work through.

721
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,000
That's what you do.

722
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,160
You fix it, but almost to a fault because she's like it's some, a lot of them are unfixable.

723
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:16,200
And the other person needs to meet her halfway and Victoria is the, you know, the pilot.

724
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,560
No, the captain of the Titanic.

725
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,560
No, the pilot.

726
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Oh, I don't want that title.

727
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,560
I don't know.

728
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160
No, no, no, it's a good thing.

729
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,480
You go, you want to take care of that ship and you're not going to jump.

730
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,640
And you want to fix it so badly that when it's going badly, you're like, well, then

731
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,800
I'm going to go down with it because we're, we're all in this together, but the other

732
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,320
one is not meeting you 50%.

733
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,320
There's no reciprocity.

734
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,080
I definitely feel like I'm Jack and there's room on the door.

735
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,080
There's room.

736
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,800
There's freaking room on the door.

737
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Just let me on.

738
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,280
I won't drown, but nobody lets me on.

739
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:58,640
So those are all of the significant milestone relationships that I've had.

740
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,080
And it's been a fun ride.

741
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,080
There's some fun moments between 2013 and 2017.

742
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,880
So Chip and Timmy, there was a big, that was, Chip was 2013.

743
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,520
Timmy was 2016, 2017, but there was a guy that I don't have a name for.

744
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,800
I just called him Small Hands.

745
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,600
And he was the first date that I went on in this timeframe between 2013 and 2017.

746
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,760
I met him at Iron Hill and media and we had talked on, you know, probably match.com or

747
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,760
whatever.

748
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,760
I don't know.

749
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,200
I met him and we sat down and it was the first mistake I made that we were doing dinner.

750
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,480
We did drinks, we did appetizers, we did dinner.

751
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Well, you learned.

752
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,240
I never did this again after Small Hands because we stopped calling him Small Hands.

753
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Because this is what happened.

754
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,240
We sat down at the table.

755
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,040
We ordered, you know, the drinks first and an appetizer.

756
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,920
So I was already locked in an appetizer and we sat down and he was perfectly normal.

757
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,800
Like he was exactly what his picture was.

758
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,920
It was no big deal.

759
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,720
And he was like, all right, I got to bring it up at the start.

760
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,880
I just got to let you know.

761
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,840
They call me Small Hands and he put his hands on the table and he was like, because my hands

762
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,840
are really small.

763
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,840
Oh my gosh.

764
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880
And his hands were really small.

765
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,120
His hands were like, when you hold those little plastic ones in the game, like his

766
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,400
hands were really small.

767
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,400
He brought that up.

768
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,320
It was the first thing and then I couldn't, I didn't know what to do.

769
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Like first of all, I didn't care, but he was so dead set on making this the focal point

770
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,320
of the entire night that I was like, I'm not into this.

771
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,600
And he was so insecure about it that he had to keep bringing it up.

772
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,600
Yeah.

773
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,760
And I was like, oh my gosh, I have to wait for an appetizer.

774
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,240
Then there was Fred.

775
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,240
You don't remember Fred?

776
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Oh my God, Fred on the beach.

777
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Fred on the beach.

778
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,960
Fred on the beach.

779
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,880
Fred was a comic book artist and he was kind of like Superman.

780
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,880
He was built.

781
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Yeah.

782
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160
But he was a huge nerd and I like really liked that.

783
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,160
He was cool.

784
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,160
But he invited himself down to the beach on my family vacation and I didn't know how

785
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,160
to.

786
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,520
I was like, can we just see this theme?

787
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,920
The only time Victoria has time to date is when we're on vacation for two weeks.

788
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,880
She has no other time that all these guys, she's just like, listen, I have two weeks

789
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,320
down the shore and that is it.

790
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,360
So if you can't find a date, you can come meet my family on our first date.

791
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,880
No, Fred wasn't a first date.

792
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,320
It was like a second date and he came into the beach and I made sure we beached on a

793
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,920
different beach than the family because I didn't want to deal with that.

794
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,680
I was 30 of us didn't know if I liked him yet.

795
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:28,360
He lived in the garage apartment above his family's house garage and I couldn't get him

796
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,920
to leave and he came and he got changed in the house and oh my God, there was really

797
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,920
nothing wrong.

798
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,000
I just wasn't into it and I couldn't get him to walk by you guys on the beach chair to

799
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,640
be like, hey, yeah, you good.

800
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,960
You coming back to the family is Fred leaving.

801
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Yeah.

802
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Then there was Joab and I'm calling him Joab because it was a typo on his profile.

803
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,920
I think it was Jacob or something, but I thought, do you remember?

804
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,880
I was like, I'm going out with this guy for the first time, but I think he's like a Mormon

805
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,240
because his name was Joab and I thought it was biblical, but he typoed it and he couldn't

806
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,760
fix it.

807
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,760
Strike number one.

808
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,760
Strike number one.

809
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,840
So the main thing, I think you'll remember this, he had mental health issues.

810
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,840
Yes, I do.

811
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,840
And he was very open about it and it was fine for me, but he was like, you're welcome to

812
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,720
ask me any questions.

813
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:14,720
And I was like, oh, okay.

814
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,600
And it was really the first time I think I heard the word anxiety and some sort of

815
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,600
depression and all these things.

816
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,040
And I was like, oh, cool.

817
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,440
So we did a second date.

818
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,080
I think we even did a third date and I would ask questions.

819
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
And by the third date, he was like, you're aggressive.

820
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,600
I remember.

821
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,800
And he was attacking me because I was asking questions that he openly was telling me I

822
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,000
could.

823
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:43,160
But he started, he twisted it into this defensive mode of telling me how horrible I was.

824
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,600
And I was like, yeah, I don't think we're going to meet again.

825
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,240
I think we're good.

826
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:49,240
I'm good.

827
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:54,760
And he ended up contacting me like a year later when I went back online and I didn't

828
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,760
even respond.

829
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,760
I didn't even respond.

830
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,960
Then there was Cameron, the pilot, the Australian pilot.

831
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:02,960
I remember him.

832
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,920
This was a fun time.

833
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,920
I was into this guy.

834
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Yeah, because he, you know, Hawaii and I gave him my best Australian accent and he was like,

835
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,920
wow, that was really horrible.

836
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,360
And that's what he sound like from Delco.

837
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,800
I was like, what do you mean?

838
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,240
But he was funny, you know, had an accent, which is great.

839
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,480
And he was really cute.

840
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,440
But he faked COVID.

841
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,520
He faked COVID to get out of coming to another date or scheduling something.

842
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,880
You did a couple dates.

843
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,960
We did, we did like three or four.

844
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,520
He was at my condo and we watched SleeBag, which was really funny.

845
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,320
And he was shocked that I thought that was funny because American humor is not the same

846
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,320
as Australian humor.

847
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:51,040
But yeah, he just turned into like every other, yeah.

848
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,160
There was an experience that I had in New York City.

849
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,120
I had two dates in one day.

850
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,120
I remember this.

851
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,120
You baller.

852
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,120
I'll never forget this.

853
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,840
All I have for their names is guy number one and guy number two.

854
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:09,560
But guy number one, I met Midtown somewhere and I had like heels on when, you know, you

855
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,920
would get dressed up and he made me walk a mile and a half.

856
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,800
We walked a mile and a half to the food destination.

857
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,080
Oh, God.

858
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,720
And I was so turned off by him because he was like kind of mean.

859
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:28,720
He was like that typical New Yorker mean, but he wasn't even from New York.

860
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,320
I can't remember anything else about him.

861
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,560
And I remember being like, I'm just gonna get drinks.

862
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,560
Yeah.

863
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,320
Because my feet are bleeding.

864
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,520
And they were, they were actually bleeding.

865
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,080
And I ruined my suede heels that I loved and I wasn't into it.

866
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,840
So I went home and changed my shoes.

867
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,840
I think I put flats on.

868
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,840
I was like screw guy number two.

869
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,840
I don't even care.

870
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,640
I'm putting on Bobo's.

871
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:56,640
And I met him downtown at like an open kind of what they have in Philly with a love chair,

872
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,440
a love park thing.

873
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,880
They had like an open thing that I never experienced in New York outside and it was to get beers.

874
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,400
And he was like a bro and I was like, oh, I'm never gonna see you again, but this is

875
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,400
nice.

876
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,400
This is fun.

877
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,840
And I'll never forget getting myself back to my apartment and being like, no one's feeding

878
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,840
me.

879
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,840
No.

880
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,840
I'm drunk.

881
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,320
I had four, two glasses of wine and two beers.

882
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,000
Like I don't like either of these guys.

883
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,040
I have my feet are bleeding and I gotta go home.

884
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,040
Like what is happening?

885
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,760
I remember being so fed up with that.

886
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,760
We were in like Chinatown.

887
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,960
We were so far downtown from where I live.

888
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,120
And then the last little story that I have who I didn't give a name, but I guess I should

889
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,560
give me like a preppy nautical guy name like Bo.

890
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Bo.

891
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,840
He's a Delco guy who thinks he's Shep from Southern Charm.

892
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,840
Yes.

893
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:51,480
And I originally met Bo in 2015 via cousins of mine and I was still living in New York.

894
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,240
So we talked for like three weeks straight before I even came home at Christmas to like

895
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:56,320
meet him.

896
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,840
And we dated for like a little, how many dates can you put into like a Christmas vacation

897
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,120
time?

898
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,720
And the first one, just like normal, the first date was like so fun.

899
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:10,800
There, wind and dined, laughed, too many hours sitting at the table, waitress hates

900
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,000
you, yada, yada.

901
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,000
And then it never left from his couch in his roommate and just like getting stoned at 35.

902
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,000
And I was younger.

903
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,080
And I was like, yeah, this is not, I'm leaving.

904
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,800
I remember I got up and I was like, I'm good.

905
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Like I don't, yeah, I don't want to do this.

906
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,600
But it's not like this was your third date.

907
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,900
You had gone to his family's house.

908
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:34,840
You had to the pool.

909
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,840
Just later.

910
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,640
So I remet Bo in 2021.

911
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,640
Yes, you're right.

912
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,280
So that was 2015.

913
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Said bye, had some, you know, other relationship experiences.

914
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,000
And then again in 2021, we reconnected.

915
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,120
This is why I don't talk to anybody again.

916
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,100
When you die from my life, you die.

917
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:58,160
And I tried with Gunther to be like, no, I'm going to do it differently.

918
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,360
I'm not going to try to forget and black everything out and move on.

919
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,360
Like this is okay.

920
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,880
This is, you know, healthy and normal.

921
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:04,880
Now you die.

922
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,880
Goodbye.

923
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,000
Bo 2021, nothing changed.

924
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,920
And he was almost 40 now.

925
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,720
And it was again, reconnecting, super fun.

926
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:16,680
It was at quotations, old quotations in media.

927
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,240
And then he just wanted to like get high and get stoned on his couch in the same apartment

928
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,720
that he lived in, how five years earlier.

929
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,880
And I did go to his family beach house.

930
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,920
I drove down there.

931
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,160
I brought my own food.

932
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,960
Cause you were like, I do not trust these guys to feed me.

933
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,960
He didn't feed me.

934
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,960
I asked him for pretzels.

935
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Like you got pretzels or something.

936
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Like you're giving me beer, but like I need a pretzel.

937
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,240
I got to drive home.

938
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:40,320
And I, he really ended that poorly actually.

939
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,920
I really poorly that it was a judge of character.

940
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,920
I hope he's doing well.

941
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,200
I hope everything's well, but he would swipe.

942
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,680
He was like texting on, I'll never forget.

943
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,600
I was sitting on his couch.

944
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,840
He was sick and he was texting with his mom and his mom sending him girls, pictures of

945
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,240
girls of family, friends that like, Hey, what about this girl?

946
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,240
And I'm sitting right there.

947
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,760
I was like, what am I doing?

948
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,760
This is 2020.

949
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,960
I just broke a rib and a lung.

950
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,960
I don't want to be here.

951
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,960
Yeah.

952
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,200
We're going to play a little game.

953
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Cool.

954
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,440
It's called don't hate me.

955
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,440
Oh God.

956
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Speed date me.

957
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,760
Why are you going to speed date with Victoria?

958
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Why do you have cards in your hands?

959
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,200
Cause I'm going to ask you questions.

960
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Oh my God.

961
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,600
And we're going to speed date and speed dating.

962
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:26,120
You have to do things really fast because then you got to move on to the next person.

963
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,120
I declined.

964
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,120
We want to do all these.

965
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Oh, that's cute.

966
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,120
Okay.

967
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,200
What is one new thing you'd like to try?

968
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Sleeping.

969
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,360
What does being a good person mean to you?

970
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Reciprocity, honesty and basic kindness.

971
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Well, those are the hard questions.

972
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Now we're going to get to the fun questions.

973
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,600
Sweet.

974
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,120
Who are three people you want on your team if there was a zombie apocalypse?

975
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,120
Mike Bouter.

976
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,120
He's like our uncle.

977
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:04,760
He's going to kill you for saying that.

978
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,760
The rock.

979
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,760
Yes.

980
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Dwayne The Rock Johnson.

981
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,160
Matt Reif because he's funny.

982
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,880
He's a comedian and if I'm going to die, I might as well laugh.

983
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,880
Okay.

984
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,880
I get you after that question.

985
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,880
That was a good one.

986
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,880
What would your rap name be?

987
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,200
I'm kind of disgusted right now.

988
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,200
What would my rap?

989
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,120
What would your rap name be?

990
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:30,000
I can't do Lil Weezy because he exists but I weaselot, you know?

991
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,600
Lil therapy.

992
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Lil boundaries.

993
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Lil boundaries.

994
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,120
Lil boundaries.

995
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Who would play you in a movie?

996
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,800
I don't know.

997
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,800
Hermione Granger.

998
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,800
Yes, perfect.

999
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Or Julia Roberts.

1000
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,800
Oh.

1001
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,800
Very different.

1002
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,800
I don't know.

1003
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,800
My favorite actresses.

1004
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,800
I don't know.

1005
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,360
I would have to have a dream job if money didn't matter.

1006
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,960
If money didn't matter, see Fit Fitness.

1007
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,400
I would walk my dog for a living and money didn't matter, nothing.

1008
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,420
What season fits your personality?

1009
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:08,620
I'd be a landscaper in a gardener actually.

1010
00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:09,620
We moved on.

1011
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:11,120
This is speed dating.

1012
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,120
God damn it.

1013
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,480
I've never done speed dating.

1014
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Which landscaper?

1015
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,480
Great.

1016
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Which season fits your personality?

1017
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,880
You're aggressive.

1018
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,360
Fall, autumn.

1019
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,360
Okay.

1020
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,700
One answer is suffice.

1021
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:27,220
Would you rather date someone you met online or go on a blind date?

1022
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:28,220
No.

1023
00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:29,220
Okay.

1024
00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:32,620
Would you rather date someone you love or date someone who loves you?

1025
00:43:32,620 --> 00:43:33,620
No.

1026
00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:34,620
Okay.

1027
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:38,940
Would you rather be the funniest or smartest person in the room?

1028
00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:39,940
Funniest.

1029
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:40,940
Funniest.

1030
00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:41,940
Yeah.

1031
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:42,940
We hate smart.

1032
00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:43,940
Yeah.

1033
00:43:43,940 --> 00:43:46,180
Would you rather have a rewind or pause button in life?

1034
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:47,180
Pause.

1035
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:48,180
Pause.

1036
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:49,180
Yeah.

1037
00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:50,180
That sounds good.

1038
00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:51,900
Who's the worst boss you've ever had?

1039
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:52,900
I'm not the boss.

1040
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:54,220
That's the part.

1041
00:43:54,220 --> 00:43:59,740
What's the first concert you ever went to?

1042
00:43:59,740 --> 00:44:00,740
The Monkeys.

1043
00:44:00,740 --> 00:44:04,540
What's the worst job you've ever had?

1044
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:07,700
Carly is my boss.

1045
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:08,700
So true.

1046
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:10,840
Thanks for letting me go away this weekend.

1047
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,340
What show on Netflix did you binge watch embarrassingly fast?

1048
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:17,340
The Righteous Jeff Stoice.

1049
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:18,340
Oh my God.

1050
00:44:18,340 --> 00:44:19,340
It's so good.

1051
00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:20,340
So good.

1052
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:21,340
Last question.

1053
00:44:21,340 --> 00:44:22,340
What's your favorite seafood sister?

1054
00:44:22,340 --> 00:44:23,340
Pepper.

1055
00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:32,540
That was the most important one.

1056
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:35,060
Is that what I have to ask when I go out on a date?

1057
00:44:35,060 --> 00:44:36,060
Yes.

1058
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:37,620
I'm not going to anytime soon.

1059
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:38,620
Guess what?

1060
00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:39,620
I'm single.

1061
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:40,620
You're single.

1062
00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:41,620
You won.

1063
00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:43,620
This podcast doesn't help that.

1064
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:45,620
It really doesn't help that.

1065
00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:50,620
Now I'm out there even more for people to be like, oh, I'm going to be single.

1066
00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:52,220
People will be like, oh, I don't know you.

1067
00:44:52,220 --> 00:44:53,420
Oh, let me search your name.

1068
00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:54,820
Oh, let me listen to her.

1069
00:44:54,820 --> 00:45:00,500
Wait, the best part is that I am an open book and she is super private and I love this

1070
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:02,180
episode for that reason.

1071
00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:06,260
And I feel like after this, you're going to therapy.

1072
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:07,980
I am at one o'clock today.

1073
00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:12,500
Well, you gave our real extras a lot to think about today.

1074
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:18,380
Honestly, listen, if you're young, if you're in the dating scene, this can happen anywhere.

1075
00:45:18,380 --> 00:45:26,340
Like online dating isn't the reason why I've met these people, these humans of sorts.

1076
00:45:26,340 --> 00:45:33,540
And get yourself out there, do your own screening or vetting and just go with what feels right.

1077
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:37,420
However, I will say all of these felt right in the beginning and they turned out to be

1078
00:45:37,420 --> 00:45:39,660
horrible, not great relationship people.

1079
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:44,460
I won't say they're not bad humans or they're not good humans, but they weren't right for

1080
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:45,860
relationship at the time.

1081
00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:51,020
So I don't know, go with your gut, but like, don't.

1082
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:55,540
I have no relationship or dating advice other than you can't regret anything.

1083
00:45:55,540 --> 00:46:00,780
You have to just move on, move forward and take whatever that lesson was.

1084
00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:04,380
Half the time you don't know what the lesson is until it's way too late and it's so far

1085
00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:05,380
down the line.

1086
00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:08,660
It gives you that ah-ha of like, oh right, that was their purpose in my story.

1087
00:46:08,660 --> 00:46:09,660
Got it.

1088
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:10,660
Yeah.

1089
00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:11,660
So cool.

1090
00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:15,420
Well, I promised a tell all.

1091
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:16,420
And that was a tell most.

1092
00:46:16,420 --> 00:46:17,420
Tell most.

1093
00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:18,420
That was a tell most.

1094
00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:22,700
We don't have time for a full tell all, but those were the highlights, right?

1095
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:24,020
Yeah.

1096
00:46:24,020 --> 00:46:28,660
And uh, yeah, nobody come up and talk to me about this.

1097
00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:31,060
I really don't want to hear what you think about it.

1098
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:35,660
To be honest with you, when I'm about to go teach you a class on stage, I don't want

1099
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:36,660
to talk about this beforehand.

1100
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:38,260
It's okay, I'll bring it up.

1101
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:39,260
No worries.

1102
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:45,380
Oh, remember you're always fit to be freaking real and always allowed to be.

1103
00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:55,380
Be a little extra.

1104
00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:58,580
For legal reasons, we have to tell you that this podcast is meant for entertainment and

1105
00:46:58,580 --> 00:47:00,380
educational purposes only.

1106
00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:04,740
We are not healthcare professionals for all of your health, wellness, fitness and self

1107
00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:05,740
care needs.

1108
00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:09,740
Please refer to the medical professional in your life, your primary care physician, your

1109
00:47:09,740 --> 00:47:13,460
therapist, a certified coach, whoever it may be.

1110
00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:17,660
And then let us know what they say because I guarantee we need to know what to.

1111
00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:18,660
Okay.

1112
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:43,660
Bye.