WEBVTT 00:00:02.189 --> 00:00:06.830 Hello, my gorgeous, amazing, incredible, fantastic, 00:00:07.490 --> 00:00:10.509 powerful everyday women of the world. Welcome 00:00:10.509 --> 00:00:13.289 to another episode of the Startup Stories podcast, 00:00:13.589 --> 00:00:16.010 where the ambitious woman, where the ambitious 00:00:16.010 --> 00:00:19.429 everyday woman is heard, held, and served in 00:00:19.429 --> 00:00:22.230 life and in business, in her heart, in her soul, 00:00:22.589 --> 00:00:27.100 in her community. Everywhere! Because it's so 00:00:27.100 --> 00:00:29.320 much bigger than just living in any one part 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.100 of who you are and what you want to experience 00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:34.939 in this time on earth. As you know, bringing 00:00:34.939 --> 00:00:38.280 you very relatable stories to keep you sane, 00:00:38.780 --> 00:00:41.100 grounded, and growing as you expand yourself 00:00:41.100 --> 00:00:44.100 and deliver your purpose to the world. And I'm 00:00:44.100 --> 00:00:49.649 very excited, as always! today to bring you a 00:00:49.649 --> 00:00:52.509 beautiful guest, a fellow Canadian hailing from 00:00:52.509 --> 00:00:56.030 the other side of the country in my birth town, 00:00:56.530 --> 00:01:00.329 Montreal, where I arrived through the portal 00:01:00.329 --> 00:01:04.250 to this world. So Urmi Hussein is joining us 00:01:04.250 --> 00:01:08.069 and why I'm excited is obviously the conversation 00:01:08.069 --> 00:01:11.799 that we're gonna have. But also because she found 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:17.760 me and she directly reached out to book podcast 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.680 recording and there's already a lot of alignment 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.140 in our two worlds, right? Like this women in 00:01:23.140 --> 00:01:26.980 leadership that you're a part of is a whole new 00:01:26.980 --> 00:01:29.719 community that I've never heard of. So I'm excited 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.239 to know you and continue our relationship beyond 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:35.480 the podcast and explore that stuff. But you guys, 00:01:35.739 --> 00:01:38.870 what's really wonderful And here's where the 00:01:38.870 --> 00:01:43.209 feels already start, is that Rumi is here to 00:01:43.209 --> 00:01:47.069 share and to serve from her heart to yours around 00:01:47.069 --> 00:01:51.730 the woman that she is choosing to be now in order 00:01:51.730 --> 00:01:55.730 to encourage and be evidence to you that your 00:01:55.730 --> 00:01:58.030 heart's desires are possible now and they're 00:01:58.030 --> 00:02:02.230 not based on any external condition or outcome. 00:02:02.489 --> 00:02:04.650 It's a choice that you make. In her own words 00:02:04.650 --> 00:02:08.050 she just said in a bit of the preamble that she 00:02:08.050 --> 00:02:12.370 was inspired by celebrities and she decided that 00:02:12.370 --> 00:02:14.969 she could be like that too and I'm adding now. 00:02:15.210 --> 00:02:17.650 You can do it now in so many different ways. 00:02:17.830 --> 00:02:20.469 So welcome to the show and thank you for coming 00:02:20.469 --> 00:02:23.110 here to have this conversation. Thank you. Thank 00:02:23.110 --> 00:02:26.629 you for having me. You're so welcome. So why 00:02:26.629 --> 00:02:29.789 don't you open up with telling a little bit about 00:02:29.789 --> 00:02:33.650 who you are and what your life contains and then 00:02:33.650 --> 00:02:36.590 we can delve into the passions of your heart. 00:02:37.770 --> 00:02:42.310 Yes. So my name is Rumi. I am Indeed, based in 00:02:42.310 --> 00:02:45.030 Montreal, in the other side of the world from 00:02:45.030 --> 00:02:48.150 where you are. And I like to consider myself 00:02:48.150 --> 00:02:51.729 a woman who wears many hats, with many passions, 00:02:52.090 --> 00:02:54.210 many hobbies. I always say that, you know, there 00:02:54.210 --> 00:02:55.930 is the nine to five, but then there is the five 00:02:55.930 --> 00:02:59.719 to nine. In my five to nine, I do a lot of these 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:03.139 things, such as, you know, I like to give back 00:03:03.139 --> 00:03:06.199 a lot to the community. So I do a lot of volunteer 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:10.159 work, mainly in relation to women's empowerment. 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:15.240 I do a lot of female mentorship. I mentor a lot 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:19.439 of women. I'm also a published author, speaker, 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:24.639 YouTuber. blogger, and part of this women in 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:27.080 leadership organization. I'm part of the Victoria 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.159 chapter as the social media lead. Yeah, beautiful. 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.979 And that was like such a beautiful anchor to 00:03:32.979 --> 00:03:35.939 connect us locally on my end. And then it's kind 00:03:35.939 --> 00:03:38.060 of fun that I can throw back that I was born 00:03:38.060 --> 00:03:41.759 where you live now. And like, you know, at these 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:44.099 ages and stages to come and find each other through 00:03:44.099 --> 00:03:47.710 something like the show. So that is a lot of 00:03:47.710 --> 00:03:53.509 hats while working a full -time job in like a 00:03:53.509 --> 00:03:57.550 very, I'm going to say demanding industry, right, 00:03:57.550 --> 00:04:03.030 in the financial sector. So I love, I just love 00:04:03.030 --> 00:04:05.469 when I have guests who are a lot like me because 00:04:05.469 --> 00:04:07.689 I have a nine to five job too. I work in local 00:04:07.689 --> 00:04:09.550 government. I deal with neighbors who complain 00:04:09.550 --> 00:04:15.870 about each other. That's fun. But while I'm there, 00:04:15.949 --> 00:04:19.790 I get to express myself through my work as well. 00:04:20.670 --> 00:04:24.250 And then I just, I choose to make time for these 00:04:24.250 --> 00:04:26.350 other things. So why don't you share with us 00:04:26.350 --> 00:04:30.310 like, you know, how, but it's not really how 00:04:30.310 --> 00:04:33.490 it's who, what kind of woman do we choose to 00:04:33.490 --> 00:04:38.050 be in order to be able to create those things 00:04:38.050 --> 00:04:39.990 that we're not waiting for them to come at a 00:04:39.990 --> 00:04:43.459 certain time. Yeah, so basically I chose to be 00:04:43.459 --> 00:04:47.199 a very multi -talented person. This is how I 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.019 would define it. I want to be a woman that not 00:04:50.019 --> 00:04:53.000 only wears many hats but has multiple talents 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:55.860 and a lot of the things that I mentioned I didn't 00:04:55.860 --> 00:04:57.779 know any of it, you know, like when it comes 00:04:57.779 --> 00:05:02.139 to doing YouTube, blogging, creating your book. 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:06.220 and stuff like that. I had no knowledge of it, 00:05:06.779 --> 00:05:10.220 literally no knowledge of it. I had to use YouTube 00:05:10.220 --> 00:05:12.399 to find out how to do a lot of these things. 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.759 I had to research some of these things, but I 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.720 had this end goal, which is I wanna be all of 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:20.000 these things and I wanna learn all of these things 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.399 because I didn't wanna just be a corporate girl. 00:05:22.819 --> 00:05:25.399 I wanted to be a bit more than that. And especially 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.680 after reading many books, I feel like what happens 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.019 with us is that we tend to typically work a nine 00:05:32.019 --> 00:05:34.540 -to -five job and then that's it. This is how 00:05:34.540 --> 00:05:37.100 we find meaning to our life. But I feel like 00:05:37.100 --> 00:05:38.819 then you come to a point where you're like, okay, 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.339 this feels very meaningless. You feel there is 00:05:42.339 --> 00:05:44.540 a void and you want to fill this void with something 00:05:44.540 --> 00:05:46.360 a bit more meaningful where you feel like, okay, 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.040 there must be a purpose in my life. And there 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:51.519 was this book that I read, which is called the 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:52.959 Igikai. I don't know if you're familiar with 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:57.079 the whole concept of the Igikai, which is basically... 00:05:57.719 --> 00:06:00.040 Yeah, it's a Japanese concept that tells you 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.759 about your reason of being. And after reading 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.620 the book, I feel like I had, you know, a call, 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.720 I feel like, okay, I think I have this interest, 00:06:08.980 --> 00:06:12.180 this passions and it's it's up to me to basically 00:06:12.180 --> 00:06:15.120 untap in all of these things and to explore them 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.480 and see where they bring me. And so I feel like 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.680 a lot of these things that I do like blogging, 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.180 YouTube, they all started from my own curiosity. 00:06:22.180 --> 00:06:25.259 And then I realized that this is the path I want 00:06:25.259 --> 00:06:29.959 to continue on. It is a lot of, you know, demand, 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.019 especially if you work in like a nine to five 00:06:32.019 --> 00:06:34.730 job, because you have to find the time. But it's 00:06:34.730 --> 00:06:36.930 also about managing your time properly, being 00:06:36.930 --> 00:06:39.449 good at time management, being good at organizational 00:06:39.449 --> 00:06:42.790 skills, having have everything, you know, planned 00:06:42.790 --> 00:06:44.689 for you during the week. And if you're able to 00:06:44.689 --> 00:06:46.689 stick to the plan, then then you are able to 00:06:46.689 --> 00:06:48.730 accomplish all of these things. And one thing 00:06:48.730 --> 00:06:50.589 that I can definitely say is that doing all of 00:06:50.589 --> 00:06:53.310 these things, they bring you a lot more accomplishment 00:06:53.310 --> 00:06:56.470 and fulfillment than just your nine to five job. 00:06:56.709 --> 00:07:04.569 Yeah. And it's so beautiful to also live in what 00:07:04.569 --> 00:07:09.009 is possible even if you have a job because you 00:07:09.009 --> 00:07:11.490 know I used to think that having a job was a 00:07:11.490 --> 00:07:13.790 limitation and a lot of my entrepreneurial friends 00:07:13.790 --> 00:07:15.990 don't have jobs they just have their businesses. 00:07:16.610 --> 00:07:20.550 I've grown to embrace both. I love having both. 00:07:20.569 --> 00:07:24.649 I love having this robust life that offers the 00:07:24.649 --> 00:07:28.730 multifaceted things that keep me really feeling 00:07:28.730 --> 00:07:32.720 alive. And what I really want to pull out, as 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.779 you said it so beautifully, I don't just want 00:07:35.779 --> 00:07:38.839 to be a corporate girl. There's more to this 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:43.000 life. And you don't have to choose one thing 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.060 over the other. I think we froze. You don't have 00:07:47.060 --> 00:07:49.800 to choose just one thing over the other. You 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:54.660 can have it all and you can do it now by being 00:07:54.660 --> 00:08:01.949 intentional. You just okay, I was about to message 00:08:01.949 --> 00:08:05.990 you There we go, okay. Sorry glitches glitches 00:08:05.990 --> 00:08:08.769 happen. We're used to them here at powerful ink. 00:08:09.089 --> 00:08:13.069 So we're me was saying how There's the intentional 00:08:13.069 --> 00:08:17.529 choice to live the life that you want to live 00:08:17.529 --> 00:08:23.629 and If you're yearning for it, then seek it until 00:08:23.629 --> 00:08:27.490 it starts to come into your day to day and don't 00:08:27.490 --> 00:08:33.000 be limited by the current structure or format 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.919 of your life. Like you said, it would be so beautiful. 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.279 I didn't want to just be a corporate girl. And 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:42.720 you don't have to be. Even if you have kids, 00:08:43.220 --> 00:08:46.740 even if you have other commitments, aging parents, 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.000 people that you're depending on you, there, here 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.940 it comes. There's always time for your soul to 00:08:54.940 --> 00:09:01.320 be expressed in your life. Yes, definitely. And 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:06.000 this is also one thing that I try to tell other 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.460 people, other women. And I feel like there is 00:09:08.460 --> 00:09:11.759 a lot more women who are doing that. They are 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:16.659 really taking They're using their time to do 00:09:16.659 --> 00:09:19.740 other things. I think maybe you might not be 00:09:19.740 --> 00:09:23.659 running a business or maybe you might not be 00:09:23.659 --> 00:09:25.960 writing a book, but you're part of communities. 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.620 And I think that too is very important. There 00:09:28.620 --> 00:09:30.320 is a group, Women in Leadership, but there are 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.659 so many other groups out there. I am part of 00:09:33.659 --> 00:09:36.379 running groups just for women. I'm part of book 00:09:36.379 --> 00:09:40.019 clubs. Those are things that really nurture your 00:09:40.019 --> 00:09:42.899 soul. Just being part of a book club where you 00:09:42.899 --> 00:09:45.340 are sharing your ideas, where you're talking 00:09:45.340 --> 00:09:47.159 about the books that you love, where you're hearing 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.179 from other people and the book that they love. 00:09:49.340 --> 00:09:51.740 Those are really important because social connection 00:09:51.740 --> 00:09:54.000 is equally important. It's part of your investing 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.000 in yourself. It's important for your mental being. 00:09:57.340 --> 00:09:59.299 It's important for so many things. It's not just, 00:09:59.379 --> 00:10:02.039 OK, I'm just socializing. It's really about you 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:05.679 learn from other people. And so I do really think 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.159 that I do see a little bit of more of a shift 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:12.840 where people, especially women, are really They 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.480 really want to work on themselves and they don't 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:17.659 want to be just associated with the job title. 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:19.600 There is a lot more than that. And they want 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.500 to be associated with different things. They 00:10:21.500 --> 00:10:25.720 want to be seen as multifaceted. It's not just 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:29.100 I'm a housewife. It's not just that I work in 00:10:29.100 --> 00:10:32.039 this place. I'm also a lot more than that. And 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:33.919 I think that there are many ways that women can 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:38.820 do that. So this is such a already a broader 00:10:38.820 --> 00:10:43.559 opening to the whole woman and the whole life 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:48.539 that she lives. But we're not here to just invest 00:10:48.539 --> 00:10:50.799 in ourselves to grow a business that makes a 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:53.220 gazillion dollars and reaches every single human 00:10:53.220 --> 00:10:58.559 on the planet. It's the impact of where you move 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:02.059 in your town from your home to the grocery store 00:11:02.059 --> 00:11:05.679 to the school to the library to the running groups. 00:11:06.220 --> 00:11:10.360 All these places are places of impact and in 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:13.720 yourself are different places that need to be 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:17.279 filled and they don't all need to be about proving 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:21.399 or striving or achieving can do them just for 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:25.179 the beauty of doing them and get that like soul 00:11:25.179 --> 00:11:30.389 sunshine. feeling. Yeah, I just pursuing for 00:11:30.389 --> 00:11:34.429 joy. That's it. That's it. And I think you said 00:11:34.429 --> 00:11:37.610 it really nicely. It's, it's just for that pursuit 00:11:37.610 --> 00:11:41.990 of joy. And you said impact, you know, I think 00:11:41.990 --> 00:11:44.649 everyone wants to make an impact in in this, 00:11:44.850 --> 00:11:48.210 in this lifetime. And you all want to inspire, 00:11:48.450 --> 00:11:51.789 we all want to leave a mark. And I think this 00:11:51.789 --> 00:11:54.669 is it, you know, it's never it's not always about 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.860 You know, making a lot of money, being rich, 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.379 I think it's able to change someone's life, which 00:12:00.379 --> 00:12:02.879 could be through an action. It could be through 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:06.379 a message. It could be through a smile and you 00:12:06.379 --> 00:12:08.940 see the benefits of it afterwards. You're like, 00:12:09.059 --> 00:12:11.440 okay, today I feel like I made a difference in 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.039 someone's life. So what did this journey start 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.399 to look like after you read that book? And if 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.940 you guys don't know about Ikagi, Google it, because 00:12:19.940 --> 00:12:22.399 I was looking around for me because I have a 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.740 graphic of it, but it's on the bulletin board 00:12:24.740 --> 00:12:28.899 downstairs. Yeah, yeah. So another synchronicity, 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.039 but it's three circles that align sort of the 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:36.659 trinity of self to have a meaningful life. And 00:12:36.659 --> 00:12:40.259 if you're not sure what that is, you know, don't 00:12:40.259 --> 00:12:42.480 give up on yourself is just all I want to say 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:46.019 here, but I want you to take us through how you 00:12:46.019 --> 00:12:48.200 started to shift the way that you were showing 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.740 up in your day -to -day after that book landed 00:12:50.740 --> 00:12:54.820 so deeply. Yeah, so actually I read that book 00:12:54.820 --> 00:13:00.559 a couple of years ago and it was a very interesting 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.679 book and there was also a documentary not exactly 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.080 about the Iggy guy, but it was about Basically, 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.299 the book, it's about a group of people that these 00:13:09.299 --> 00:13:11.820 are like Japanese, these are Japanese people 00:13:11.820 --> 00:13:15.200 who live in Japan. And it talks about how they 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.879 are reaching their Igikai. And they live in this 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.279 island and they call it the Blue Zones. I don't 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:22.919 know if you're familiar with the whole concept 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:29.139 of the Blue Zones. So basically, they're talking 00:13:29.139 --> 00:13:32.120 about how The people who live in the blues and 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.440 have a certain kind of lifestyle where basically 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.820 they enjoy themselves. They're in the present. 00:13:38.620 --> 00:13:40.639 They, you know, they, they, they, they take on 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.240 their hobbies and they do a lot of manual work. 00:13:43.259 --> 00:13:46.440 So they talk about some of them doing gardening, 00:13:46.700 --> 00:13:50.799 some others doing sewing and some other growing, 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.600 you know, fruits and vegetables and, you know, 00:13:53.740 --> 00:13:55.840 uh, in a farm and things like that. And it was, 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.720 it was very like explained in a very simple manner, 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:03.029 how doing just something very basic, it can have 00:14:03.029 --> 00:14:06.250 a meaningful impact in your life and it can be 00:14:06.250 --> 00:14:09.429 a long term happiness. And so after reading the 00:14:09.429 --> 00:14:12.389 book, I was like, I want to do something like 00:14:12.389 --> 00:14:15.350 that too. I was like, me too, I want to achieve 00:14:15.350 --> 00:14:17.870 that. And it was already seeing how I was doing 00:14:17.870 --> 00:14:19.830 some of these things, to be honest, you know, 00:14:19.889 --> 00:14:23.460 like I always followed my heart. I always followed 00:14:23.460 --> 00:14:27.100 my intuition. I always did whatever I felt like 00:14:27.100 --> 00:14:28.440 doing. You know, if there's something that I 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.120 wanted to start, I would do it. And for me, the 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.559 process was really a step -by -step thing, meaning 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.940 that, you know, I'm curious about creating a 00:14:36.940 --> 00:14:40.500 website. I'm going to go ahead and do it. So 00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:43.440 I would do that. And then let's say I was curious 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.659 about creating, I don't know, a YouTube video, 00:14:45.820 --> 00:14:49.299 then I would go ahead and do it. A lot of these 00:14:49.299 --> 00:14:51.620 things were unknown to me. I had no one to help 00:14:51.620 --> 00:14:55.299 me. I did not, you know, had any editing materials. 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:59.980 No, no, no way. No way. And I just learned from 00:14:59.980 --> 00:15:02.379 it. There was like a trial and error and it was 00:15:02.379 --> 00:15:04.179 a learning curve. You know, every time there 00:15:04.179 --> 00:15:07.679 was a way for me to improve myself, like even 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.259 with videos, even with like creating ebooks. 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.600 And that's how it started. It was a very slow 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.500 process where it started with like with one step 00:15:16.500 --> 00:15:19.799 at the time. And just to see where it would lead 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:24.039 you without necessarily having an agenda or an 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.080 expectation of something else coming out of it. 00:15:27.100 --> 00:15:29.580 That's it. We had no expectation of where this 00:15:29.580 --> 00:15:32.659 was leading me. It was just, let's see. Let's 00:15:32.659 --> 00:15:38.019 see where it goes. And somehow everything just 00:15:38.019 --> 00:15:42.139 was puzzled together for me to then... create 00:15:42.139 --> 00:15:44.440 what it is right now, my personal brand, you 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:46.259 know, like I think when people look at me, they 00:15:46.259 --> 00:15:48.460 already can associate me with different words, 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.279 you know, as multifaceted and multidimensional, 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.240 multicultural, you know, all these things. And 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.659 this was at the end, my end goal, but it was 00:15:56.659 --> 00:15:58.460 not something that I knew I was going to do. 00:15:58.500 --> 00:16:01.240 It just came on later on when I started to develop 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:06.360 a bit more this whole branding. So that is like 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:12.720 the pursuit of freedom. and of impact for the 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:16.340 sake of curiosity. And I love that because it 00:16:16.340 --> 00:16:20.059 reduces this attachment or this scarcity chasing, 00:16:20.460 --> 00:16:25.700 you know, it's just for to see where it leads 00:16:25.700 --> 00:16:28.539 and to see what comes of it and how you change. 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.059 And so then, say, what was your first video or 00:16:33.059 --> 00:16:38.139 blog based around? And how did your kind of heart's 00:16:38.139 --> 00:16:43.399 message start to be revealed? My first video, 00:16:43.700 --> 00:16:47.340 it was a 10 minutes video where I'm recording 00:16:47.340 --> 00:16:51.539 on this computer. I'm just staring at it. no 00:16:51.539 --> 00:16:54.320 microphone or anything. And I'm just saying a 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:56.039 bunch of things. Like, basically, I was giving 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.059 tips on how to pass an exam in finance. And I 00:16:59.059 --> 00:17:00.940 was just seeing a bunch of things. And then I 00:17:00.940 --> 00:17:02.820 was like, okay, I think I make sense. And then 00:17:02.820 --> 00:17:05.579 I uploaded it. And I got 10 ,000 views. I was 00:17:05.579 --> 00:17:09.339 like, there's no editing, there's no nothing. 00:17:09.420 --> 00:17:12.059 And people liked it. I was like, okay, I guess 00:17:12.059 --> 00:17:14.319 I can take that as the first sign of something 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.599 that I'm meant to be doing. And so after getting 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.440 that feedback through the likes and people commenting 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:22.279 it, I was like, okay, This is it. This is it. 00:17:22.380 --> 00:17:24.140 I'm going to keep continue doing this. And this 00:17:24.140 --> 00:17:25.319 is what I've been doing. Like I've been doing 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:28.160 videos and I incorporate interviews with other 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:31.079 people, but like I've upgraded since then. Like 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.259 I have a microphone now, for instance, I also 00:17:33.259 --> 00:17:36.059 have a software tool to like edit stuff and that 00:17:36.059 --> 00:17:38.599 I had to learn it. And so there was always a 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.960 learning process. That's so beautiful. And like 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.599 what a turnaround from one 10 minute video was 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.029 pretty amazing. And now fine tuning into the 00:17:50.029 --> 00:17:53.130 personal brand around female empowerment, right? 00:17:53.250 --> 00:17:55.950 So a much broader message that led to publishing 00:17:55.950 --> 00:17:59.069 a book, self -published, did you say? Yeah. Self 00:17:59.069 --> 00:18:00.769 -published book. Well, why don't we talk a little 00:18:00.769 --> 00:18:02.710 bit about that? Because here is what's happening, 00:18:02.750 --> 00:18:05.569 you guys, if you're not picking it up. Rumi was 00:18:05.569 --> 00:18:08.289 placing breadcrumbs, right? And or following 00:18:08.289 --> 00:18:11.390 them kind of happening synchronously at the same 00:18:11.390 --> 00:18:13.869 time. She's kind of going here and things are 00:18:13.869 --> 00:18:15.769 happening. She's leaning into it and going there. 00:18:16.269 --> 00:18:19.769 And just very open to the point where in a few 00:18:19.769 --> 00:18:22.789 years time, she's built a very successful personal 00:18:22.789 --> 00:18:26.130 brand is now speaking now can, you know, hang 00:18:26.130 --> 00:18:30.130 her one of her hats on her book and delve into 00:18:30.130 --> 00:18:33.970 with great credibility, other environments of 00:18:33.970 --> 00:18:36.829 influence to continue to reach people and get 00:18:36.829 --> 00:18:41.710 that message. And that probably wasn't the vision 00:18:41.710 --> 00:18:45.910 that you had when you started. No, not at all. 00:18:46.109 --> 00:18:49.670 Not at all. And even the whole personal branding 00:18:49.670 --> 00:18:54.750 thing, there was really not much that I knew 00:18:54.750 --> 00:18:57.029 about it. Like, literally, I didn't know even 00:18:57.029 --> 00:18:59.549 what the word personal branding meant. Like, 00:18:59.549 --> 00:19:01.670 I think I had this notion that branding is all 00:19:01.670 --> 00:19:04.490 about selling a product, like all the companies 00:19:04.490 --> 00:19:07.329 do, you know, like Apple selling Apple iPhones 00:19:07.329 --> 00:19:09.569 and, you know, selling the cars. This is what 00:19:09.569 --> 00:19:14.170 I used to think. But then I realized that You 00:19:14.170 --> 00:19:18.309 know, there is something that each person can 00:19:18.309 --> 00:19:21.390 give and it doesn't have to be always a product. 00:19:21.710 --> 00:19:23.930 It could be you as a person, you know, you as 00:19:23.930 --> 00:19:26.869 a person bring knowledge value to people and 00:19:26.869 --> 00:19:29.609 you could be a brand too. And that's how I realized 00:19:29.609 --> 00:19:33.289 the whole importance of personal branding. And 00:19:33.289 --> 00:19:37.190 I unintentionally built it. Because I think someone 00:19:37.190 --> 00:19:39.809 once told me, Oh, yeah, I think people like you 00:19:39.809 --> 00:19:41.630 because you know, as soon as they Google you, 00:19:41.789 --> 00:19:43.309 they can see all the things that you do. I'm 00:19:43.309 --> 00:19:46.029 like, Google me. And then I started to Google 00:19:46.029 --> 00:19:51.109 myself. There's so much about me out there. But 00:19:51.109 --> 00:19:53.930 I was happy of what I was seeing, because everything 00:19:53.930 --> 00:19:57.630 was aligned with what I wanted people to know. 00:19:57.900 --> 00:20:00.279 You know, everything was aligned. You know, this 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:02.420 girl, she likes public speaking, she's in finance, 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:04.740 she does things in relation to women's empowerment, 00:20:04.940 --> 00:20:07.059 she's a self -published author. And so I feel 00:20:07.059 --> 00:20:10.759 like everything was aligned and I was able to 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:14.119 show also my authentic self out there. And I 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:16.519 realized that personal branding is even more 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:18.819 important when you're working in the corporate 00:20:18.819 --> 00:20:23.160 job, when you have a corporate job, because you 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.460 can change companies. But your personal branding 00:20:26.460 --> 00:20:29.359 will always be there with you. You will always 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:31.839 carry it, no matter where you go. It's portable, 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.160 you know? And especially when you work in the 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.940 corporate world, when people are looking up for 00:20:37.940 --> 00:20:40.700 potential candidates to hire and they're uncertain, 00:20:41.220 --> 00:20:43.440 I'm pretty sure everyone is Googling you, not 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:45.960 just on LinkedIn, everywhere. And I think seeing 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:48.500 that you have these extra things really help 00:20:48.500 --> 00:20:52.480 to make a final decision. Yeah, it sets you a 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.059 bit ahead of others when you show great commitment. 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:01.859 And so then is your personal brand compatible 00:21:01.859 --> 00:21:07.200 with your nine to five, or is it not at all different? 00:21:08.779 --> 00:21:11.440 It's totally different, but I'm able to use some 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:14.400 of the skills that I have that I gained through 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:18.660 my five to nine in my nine to five. Yeah. And 00:21:18.660 --> 00:21:23.160 I'm very curious about a thread that I feel like 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:27.299 I'm hearing in between here around you keeping 00:21:27.299 --> 00:21:30.599 yourself, I'm going to use the word clean, from 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:34.059 the influences of the internet to sort of dictate 00:21:34.059 --> 00:21:37.079 you need to where you should or do this in order 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.200 to get that. Like, you know, did you start to 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:44.920 work with coaches or really stay true to your 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.099 own, yeah, nice to your own path? Yeah, my own 00:21:48.099 --> 00:21:50.680 part, no coaches, no nothing. No, no, no, no, 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:55.059 no. It's my own thing only do it yourself type 00:21:55.059 --> 00:21:59.299 of thing. Because I feel like when you have a 00:21:59.299 --> 00:22:03.259 coach, because I was I many people thought that 00:22:03.259 --> 00:22:06.380 I was a coach myself. And I was like, No, I'm 00:22:06.380 --> 00:22:10.539 not. Because I think with coaching is great. 00:22:11.700 --> 00:22:14.960 Because they help you to achieve your goals. 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:20.000 and get to your destination but it's not always 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.240 what you want to do I feel like you know I think 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.779 sometimes you want to you want to have that freedom 00:22:24.779 --> 00:22:27.440 of choosing and you want to have that freedom 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:30.559 of making an error and you don't want to have 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.519 Commitment. Sometimes I would say, you know, 00:22:34.579 --> 00:22:36.160 like if you want to be like, okay, I don't want 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:37.799 to do this anymore. You don't want to do this. 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:40.220 I feel like if you have a coach that I hope who 00:22:40.220 --> 00:22:41.980 helps you to reach it and then you decide to 00:22:41.980 --> 00:22:43.740 give up, I feel like you would feel bad about 00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:46.079 it. You know, it's like you're betraying yourself. 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:50.279 And so no, no coaching, no nothing. I learned 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:53.359 everything through books, YouTube, reading stuff, 00:22:53.819 --> 00:22:56.240 observing other people. Well, and then doing 00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:59.059 it. Yes. And then doing it. Right. We're not 00:22:59.059 --> 00:23:03.029 just sitting back Netflix. Netflix, binging our 00:23:03.029 --> 00:23:08.950 desires for life. We have to take action and 00:23:08.950 --> 00:23:14.250 imperfect action, of course, in order to see 00:23:14.250 --> 00:23:18.009 a result and then use that as data to adjust 00:23:18.009 --> 00:23:20.410 and keep moving. How did it feel? What did it 00:23:20.410 --> 00:23:22.730 do? Did I like it? Would I do it differently? 00:23:23.549 --> 00:23:27.160 Now, I'm a coach. and a lot of listeners may 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:31.900 or may not be and I love this perspective because 00:23:31.900 --> 00:23:37.539 it sends a message that and it's so cliche but 00:23:37.539 --> 00:23:42.980 if it's meant to be it's up to me and let that 00:23:42.980 --> 00:23:46.539 really be an empowering statement to hold deep 00:23:46.539 --> 00:23:50.119 in your heart listeners so that you don't again 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:53.319 you don't need an external circumstance or person 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:58.220 to take you along you can very lovingly and consciously 00:23:58.220 --> 00:24:03.799 choose that journey but it is possible because 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:06.819 if it is going to happen this one of my analogies 00:24:06.819 --> 00:24:09.220 no one can lose the weight for you you have to 00:24:09.220 --> 00:24:13.920 do the heavy lifting right yeah go ahead go ahead 00:24:14.009 --> 00:24:18.750 Yeah, and this is the thing. I am my own coach. 00:24:20.470 --> 00:24:24.009 Yeah, I am my own coach. And I think not everyone 00:24:24.009 --> 00:24:27.950 can do that. Like, I think for you to be your 00:24:27.950 --> 00:24:33.490 own coach, you need to be disciplined. I think 00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:37.369 it's the discipline and I think for me it was 00:24:37.369 --> 00:24:39.410 never hard to be a disciplined person like I 00:24:39.410 --> 00:24:41.869 was always when I was in university even after 00:24:41.869 --> 00:24:44.369 when I started to work and I was doing all this 00:24:44.369 --> 00:24:47.390 designation in finance like I was always very 00:24:47.390 --> 00:24:50.369 disciplined, very consistent, I have a clear 00:24:50.369 --> 00:24:52.849 goal in my mind and I'm doing the same thing 00:24:52.849 --> 00:24:55.289 even here like even the fact that I'm let's say 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:58.779 creating YouTube videos, I could just give up 00:24:58.779 --> 00:25:01.420 on it. You know, I could, but then I think about, 00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.420 okay, but why did I start this, you know? And 00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:07.380 so I'm very disciplined. I stick to the plan. 00:25:07.420 --> 00:25:11.119 I'm very consistent. And I've seen how it's hard. 00:25:11.299 --> 00:25:13.440 This is why, like, even with podcasting, I've 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.539 seen so many people that they start with their 00:25:16.539 --> 00:25:19.839 show. And then I think after a season, they're 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:21.400 like, okay, I'm done with this. I can't take 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.319 it. I can't take it anymore, you know? And it's 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.329 sad. because I always feel like you're betraying 00:25:27.329 --> 00:25:30.369 yourself doing that yeah that's how I see it 00:25:30.369 --> 00:25:33.970 yeah you're letting go of a dream that was very 00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:38.930 real yes you could pivot but the disservice is 00:25:38.930 --> 00:25:42.019 sometimes when we start something It's not about 00:25:42.019 --> 00:25:45.039 us at all. We're just the vessel in order for 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:47.539 that message to come through. And if you're going 00:25:47.539 --> 00:25:50.480 to birth things, you have a bit of a responsibility 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:55.380 to see them through. People need you to go first 00:25:55.380 --> 00:25:58.960 so that they can go first for somebody else and 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:02.079 for themselves. Yeah, yeah, that's that's how 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.200 I see it. You know, like if you create something, 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.839 you have to stick to it until the end. Yeah. 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.670 And, you know, give it enough time as well. to 00:26:11.670 --> 00:26:16.990 exist and become something, you know, like, I'm 00:26:16.990 --> 00:26:19.630 like, I'm doing okay with the podcast, but I'm 00:26:19.630 --> 00:26:22.990 still in such the baby stages year two, haven't 00:26:22.990 --> 00:26:26.150 had 100 yet probably will this year, but it's 00:26:26.150 --> 00:26:28.369 still ongoing. But what I'm finding even in this 00:26:28.369 --> 00:26:31.960 conversation is I have zero desire to ever stop 00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:35.839 because I'm constantly blown away by the beauty 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.619 of the conversations that happen and how they 00:26:38.619 --> 00:26:41.579 feed and change me, which allows me to then go 00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:46.160 out and continue that ripple effect through this 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.559 one modality, never mind the other ones that 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.079 I use. Yeah, and that's also the other thing. 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:57.920 It's that If you give up on something, you know, 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.099 that you have started, then it makes you the 00:27:00.099 --> 00:27:03.220 same as other people as well who give up on a 00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:07.319 project. And I don't like to be someone who gives 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:10.599 up. I don't like to be like that. Like I want 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:14.019 to be someone who goes, I want to actually, I 00:27:14.019 --> 00:27:17.220 want to be considered an achiever who likes a 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:21.259 go -getter. There you go. And so I always think 00:27:21.259 --> 00:27:26.279 about that word go -getter. Yeah, because it's 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.140 feeding you, right? And it's growing your life's 00:27:30.140 --> 00:27:33.440 impact. That word really landed hard. And you 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.700 guys, she put it together in the preamble as 00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:39.480 the humanitarian impact that she's here to do, 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:44.859 which is such a broader vision to have than doing 00:27:44.859 --> 00:27:48.009 something in order to get. You know, when you 00:27:48.009 --> 00:27:51.309 have a pure intention like that, you're going 00:27:51.309 --> 00:27:54.089 to have a return on your investment air quotes, 00:27:54.490 --> 00:27:58.589 but it's it's so much bigger than monetary like 00:27:58.589 --> 00:28:01.789 you were saying. And then, of course, it's going 00:28:01.789 --> 00:28:05.049 to increase your desire to stay in it and keep 00:28:05.049 --> 00:28:08.490 creating more of that impact. Yes. And you said 00:28:08.490 --> 00:28:10.589 it right. You know, investing in yourself. That's 00:28:10.589 --> 00:28:13.609 exactly what I do. I invest in myself. I invest 00:28:13.609 --> 00:28:17.150 my time. in myself, in learning things, in being 00:28:17.150 --> 00:28:20.430 able to create things. Because, you know, there's 00:28:20.430 --> 00:28:22.730 all the investment part where you invest money, 00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:24.690 you know, in the markets, you want to make money, 00:28:24.710 --> 00:28:26.269 but there is a lot more than that. You know, 00:28:26.349 --> 00:28:29.569 there's also investing in yourself because you 00:28:29.569 --> 00:28:31.970 or me, like each person in this world should 00:28:31.970 --> 00:28:36.490 see themselves. as an asset, something to nurture, 00:28:36.690 --> 00:28:39.109 something to put the money and time and effort 00:28:39.109 --> 00:28:41.990 in. That's why I never feel bad when it comes 00:28:41.990 --> 00:28:47.049 to, let's say, trying a yoga session with a group 00:28:47.049 --> 00:28:49.569 of people and maybe you have to spend $50 in 00:28:49.569 --> 00:28:52.950 it because there are many benefits out of it. 00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:56.430 There's community, you network with people, you're 00:28:56.430 --> 00:28:58.430 socializing, you're moving your body. There's 00:28:58.430 --> 00:29:00.950 so many. things that you wouldn't get if you 00:29:00.950 --> 00:29:03.329 were just alone, you know? So that's one thing, 00:29:03.430 --> 00:29:07.170 for instance. Like even recently, I went to this 00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:12.390 workshop, which is a latte art workshop. I don't 00:29:12.390 --> 00:29:14.109 know if you're familiar with it. So basically 00:29:14.109 --> 00:29:16.069 what you do is they teach you how to make designs 00:29:16.069 --> 00:29:21.049 on a latte. So it was my first time. And yes, 00:29:21.069 --> 00:29:22.849 of course, everything comes, you know, it's not 00:29:22.849 --> 00:29:26.410 for free. But I was like, I loved it. I honestly 00:29:26.410 --> 00:29:28.700 loved it. I was like, this is This is amazing, 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.559 you know, and so you learn things about yourself 00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:33.559 to things that you're not good at things that 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.480 you're good at and things that you know, you 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.299 never know can happen. Maybe I will become a 00:29:37.299 --> 00:29:40.400 barista one day. I don't know. I hope so. You 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.759 know, so like there's you can you get to discover 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.960 yourself as well by doing by trying different 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:49.059 things and exploring yourself. I'm melting listening 00:29:49.059 --> 00:29:54.319 to this because it's so accessible. That's the 00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.980 whole point. It's so accessible. And I just need 00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:59.859 to restate for the listeners so that you hear 00:29:59.859 --> 00:30:06.720 it again. You are an asset. You are here on purpose. 00:30:07.299 --> 00:30:10.859 You have a good heart and you have an impact 00:30:10.859 --> 00:30:15.259 to make. We all have different levels of impact. 00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.359 That's beyond our control. We're not all going 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.759 to be pink. We're not all going to be Oprah or 00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.980 Mother Teresa. And we're not all going to be 00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:28.759 Jane and Betty and Tom and Sam who work in various 00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.740 businesses and stores and roles in our communities. 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.769 We're going to be exactly ourselves. we can continuously, 00:30:37.890 --> 00:30:40.730 this is beautiful, we can continuously create 00:30:40.730 --> 00:30:45.509 a growing impact. There's actually no limit between 00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:49.349 ourselves and, you know, pick your favorite celebrity 00:30:49.349 --> 00:30:54.029 or unknown impact maker. There's no difference 00:30:54.029 --> 00:30:57.210 other than continuing to choose and somewhat 00:30:57.210 --> 00:31:02.299 relentlessly pursue that. right? Until it happens. 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.940 But again, just the beautiful simplicity that 00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:09.740 we can do that in our day to day. And how much 00:31:09.740 --> 00:31:12.519 is available? Like what? Nine -ish billion people 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.720 on the planet right now living nine -ish billion 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.940 different comparable, but different life experiences. 00:31:20.779 --> 00:31:25.759 A latte art class. Like how hilarious and wonderful 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:31.009 and free, right? Just free. Like, it doesn't 00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:33.049 even have to be a series, just go and do it to 00:31:33.049 --> 00:31:37.329 do it. My claim to fame will share, I did hockey, 00:31:37.490 --> 00:31:41.329 I did women's hockey, mom hockey. It was a freaking 00:31:41.329 --> 00:31:45.309 riot, and I discovered a different part of myself 00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:47.609 than in you was there, because I love kickboxing. 00:31:47.890 --> 00:31:52.670 It was very like, let all of that pull out, right? 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.019 I want to destroy the bag, the kicking bag. But 00:31:56.019 --> 00:31:59.039 in the hockey, something I'm like, I'm athletic, 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.359 hockey, oh my God. And we had a hoot for six 00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.920 weeks. All these moms played our little hearts 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.259 out, laughed our butts off, went for beer and 00:32:08.259 --> 00:32:11.720 food after, lived in that community. Now I get 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.500 to hold that experience forever. I don't have 00:32:14.500 --> 00:32:17.150 to keep it up. That's the other piece of this 00:32:17.150 --> 00:32:21.950 is like doing it. I love this as a as a patch 00:32:21.950 --> 00:32:26.390 on the quilt as you build your life. Right. Yes. 00:32:26.450 --> 00:32:28.509 Yes. It doesn't have to be like you joke. Maybe 00:32:28.509 --> 00:32:30.910 you'll become a barista, but you can just go 00:32:30.910 --> 00:32:35.490 and do this and then let it go and carry on to 00:32:35.490 --> 00:32:38.890 do something else too. Yes. So here's the other 00:32:38.890 --> 00:32:43.150 thing that we share. I do boxing. I do boxing 00:32:43.150 --> 00:32:49.410 and And that too was, I don't know how to explain 00:32:49.410 --> 00:32:52.549 it. Like, cause I tend to work out a lot. Like 00:32:52.549 --> 00:32:56.029 I do running, I do HIIT workouts, bootcamp and 00:32:56.029 --> 00:32:57.769 stuff like that. And then one day I was like, 00:32:57.930 --> 00:33:01.710 okay, let's go and try boxing. I'm telling you, 00:33:01.789 --> 00:33:04.660 I just fell in love with it. I just fell in love 00:33:04.660 --> 00:33:06.680 with it. And then every time I'm around, I tell 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.440 people I do boxing. They're like, wow. I mean, 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.720 it's what you choose to do with your time, you 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.279 know, at the end of the day, you know, you're 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.339 just making a conscious decision of using your 00:33:17.339 --> 00:33:21.960 time towards something. So I also do boxing and 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:27.440 it's a very amazing experience. It is. And like 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:32.339 for me, it releases so much what my body's holding. 00:33:32.660 --> 00:33:36.799 Yeah. And that's what I love. And if I can find 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.799 the right environment, because this one class 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.480 I took, like I literally wanted to destroy the 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.319 punching bag, but I couldn't because a darling 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.880 older woman was holding it and like, I don't 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.920 want to hurt her. But but you know, you think 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.700 about what we're holding, and it needs to come 00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:57.019 out so that and I would have never known. Same 00:33:57.019 --> 00:33:58.660 with hockey, I would have never known if I didn't 00:33:58.660 --> 00:34:03.839 try. And now I'm very connected to something 00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:07.519 that feels so good for me. And we don't know 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.639 what we're missing if we don't try it for whatever 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:14.300 it is, for whatever it is at all. So Remy, I'd 00:34:14.300 --> 00:34:18.480 love to know then, you know, how much you notice 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.659 the changed woman that you are and where you're 00:34:21.659 --> 00:34:28.780 leading her to next. I definitely see myself 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.480 Much more empowered confident and knowledgeable 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:39.380 Someone who's not afraid to say no or afraid 00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:41.980 to say yes, you know, it depends on the situation 00:34:41.980 --> 00:34:48.460 but always very, very open to trying different 00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:51.079 things. If there is an experience to try, I'm 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.659 the first one who doesn't say, no, I don't want 00:34:53.659 --> 00:34:55.679 to do it. I'm not sure this and that. I'm not 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.460 that kind of person. I'm like, let's do it. Let's 00:34:58.460 --> 00:35:01.239 go and try it. So I'm very adventurous in that 00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.599 sense. And I definitely want to have or want 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.860 to keep this side of me because I feel like by 00:35:07.860 --> 00:35:11.829 being adventurous and by staying curious, I was 00:35:11.829 --> 00:35:14.849 able to evolve into this kind of person that 00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:17.369 I am today. And I can see the growth. You know, 00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:19.289 they say, you know, you're not the same person 00:35:19.289 --> 00:35:21.570 as you were 10 years ago. I often reflect on 00:35:21.570 --> 00:35:25.150 that and reflect on that. And it's true. I'm 00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:28.409 not the same person. I'm much more knowledgeable 00:35:28.409 --> 00:35:31.590 and I'm much more confident who's really not 00:35:31.590 --> 00:35:36.050 afraid of trying things. And how has that changed 00:35:36.050 --> 00:35:39.469 in like your your immediate world and relationships? 00:35:40.139 --> 00:35:46.320 I would say much better because I feel like I'm 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.559 perceived in a different way too from people, 00:35:49.699 --> 00:35:52.400 you know, like people, like, let's say like my 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.340 niece or, you know, like people around me, they 00:35:55.340 --> 00:35:58.619 can, they say it, oh my gosh, you know, my aunt, 00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:02.960 she does so many great things. And so, you know, 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.460 I feel like I'm able to inspire even the next 00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:09.190 generations, you know, like, This is what I want 00:36:09.190 --> 00:36:11.829 to do. Like I want other people, especially girls 00:36:11.829 --> 00:36:16.510 around me or women around me to live boldly their 00:36:16.510 --> 00:36:22.050 life and to aspire to be something bigger and 00:36:22.050 --> 00:36:25.730 to do different things. And so I can see how 00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:29.309 people around me are perceiving me. I can see 00:36:29.309 --> 00:36:33.670 how it's making them think. But I also feel like 00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:37.219 around me and around the people that I work with 00:36:37.219 --> 00:36:41.300 every day, I'm able to be myself. Yeah. And I'm 00:36:41.300 --> 00:36:45.260 not afraid of saying things. Yeah. So this kind 00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:48.659 of encapsulates this idea of really feeling safe 00:36:48.659 --> 00:36:52.400 to be who you really are with yourself. Yeah. 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.699 And then to let the world respond to you the 00:36:55.699 --> 00:36:58.360 way that they will hopefully in a positive way. 00:36:59.690 --> 00:37:02.650 but that it really starts with you and you hold 00:37:02.650 --> 00:37:08.630 that. And I love this evolution because, you 00:37:08.630 --> 00:37:14.250 know, getting bigger and being more you is kind 00:37:14.250 --> 00:37:18.130 of like a, it's in a spiritual way. And so it 00:37:18.130 --> 00:37:21.289 doesn't necessarily mean that you or I in two 00:37:21.289 --> 00:37:25.070 years time have upgraded our house. Now go for 00:37:25.070 --> 00:37:29.019 regular hair blowouts now. have fake eyelashes 00:37:29.019 --> 00:37:32.500 or a personal trainer or a personal chef, which 00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:36.440 actually would be super wonderful. I have somebody 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:41.960 doing food, but you know that it's not. I always 00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:43.800 kind of have a bit of a hard time. So maybe you 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.039 can help me articulate this element of being 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.760 more, but it's really like just being, I don't 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.139 know, shining brighter or some cliche of that 00:37:54.139 --> 00:38:00.280 kind. I would say feeling internally rich. Beautiful. 00:38:01.219 --> 00:38:07.159 Yes. This is because I'm a finance person. All 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.800 I think about like being rich, internally rich. 00:38:10.019 --> 00:38:12.760 There you go. You know, that's yes. Internal 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:17.840 satisfaction for ex internal. How's my saying 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.780 going now? Internal expansion for external satisfaction. 00:38:22.570 --> 00:38:25.829 It's one of those two internal satisfaction anyway 00:38:25.829 --> 00:38:30.510 When you feel good inside when you feel full 00:38:30.510 --> 00:38:35.670 inside Even when crap happens in life You won't 00:38:35.670 --> 00:38:39.309 necessarily fall apart Right because you're you're 00:38:39.309 --> 00:38:48.349 really serving Not just in a moment in in in 00:38:48.349 --> 00:38:55.150 a way of keeping yourself satiated and rich so 00:38:55.150 --> 00:39:00.010 much more than any materialistic type of outcome. 00:39:00.670 --> 00:39:04.230 That's it. That's right. Exactly. Yes, definitely. 00:39:05.610 --> 00:39:10.969 Beautiful. Well this has been a very rich conversation. 00:39:11.769 --> 00:39:14.489 Just so much beauty and like we're new to each 00:39:14.489 --> 00:39:17.230 other and and just being able to navigate that 00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:20.869 and make it so real. So Urmi, will you have some 00:39:20.869 --> 00:39:22.889 fun with me here at the end and challenge our 00:39:22.889 --> 00:39:27.090 listeners to go out and try something new? I 00:39:27.090 --> 00:39:30.199 don't care what it is. Go and do something new 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.800 and then reach out to Urmi or to me and share 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.039 what it is. Send this podcast to your best friends. 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.480 Say, accountability challenge. We're taking this. 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:42.719 Tango class. Well, I have two left feet. Well, 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.340 too bad because me and Urmi are waiting for us 00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:47.739 to tell them that we did something different. 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.480 So take charge of your life and go out there 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.019 and play. Do something and then make it real. 00:39:53.059 --> 00:39:55.380 Come back to us and let us know what it was because 00:39:55.380 --> 00:39:57.760 we want to hear. We want to celebrate that with 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.460 you. And then we want to keep the wind in your 00:40:00.460 --> 00:40:03.619 sails to keep you going. Yes, definitely. There 00:40:03.619 --> 00:40:05.780 is a quotation I want to read because this is 00:40:05.780 --> 00:40:11.820 on my phone. It says, all done so it says the 00:40:11.820 --> 00:40:16.840 cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:26.119 seek yes read it again it says the cave you fear 00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:32.440 to enter holds the treasure you seek guys if 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:38.579 you want it go freaking get it yes If you actually 00:40:38.579 --> 00:40:43.059 want it, do it. Yes. Do it for yourself, not 00:40:43.059 --> 00:40:46.699 for anybody else. Do it for yourself to get that 00:40:46.699 --> 00:40:50.920 reward because you, you, you'll be like, why 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.820 didn't I go in there sooner? Why didn't I do 00:40:52.820 --> 00:40:57.179 that? Just take a step. So we can't wait to hear 00:40:57.179 --> 00:41:00.400 what you guys do. Anything big or small. There's 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.090 no. There's no hierarchy, there's no judgment. 00:41:03.489 --> 00:41:05.989 It's to enter that cave, enter that cave and 00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:08.030 come back and share it with us. And I'll share 00:41:08.030 --> 00:41:10.449 Urmi's socials and all of that so you can find 00:41:10.449 --> 00:41:12.230 her and they'll be in the show notes. And if 00:41:12.230 --> 00:41:15.170 you have any other closing remarks, we'd love 00:41:15.170 --> 00:41:18.650 to hear them. I wish I had more, but I don't. 00:41:18.869 --> 00:41:20.829 Well, that one was pretty profound. Like I've 00:41:20.829 --> 00:41:24.769 got cheers and chills, so. I think we can, we 00:41:24.769 --> 00:41:26.809 can sit in that. How long are we going to stand 00:41:26.809 --> 00:41:29.269 outside that cave staring at it going, I want 00:41:29.269 --> 00:41:32.329 it, I want it, but I'm too scared to go in. Yes. 00:41:32.570 --> 00:41:36.369 No, yes. No, no, no. I agree. I agree. Now, like, 00:41:36.409 --> 00:41:38.949 I feel like this quote, I listened, I listened 00:41:38.949 --> 00:41:44.869 to this in a podcast. And when I heard it, I 00:41:44.869 --> 00:41:48.780 was like, interesting. Interesting, because everything 00:41:48.780 --> 00:41:51.380 is dark, right? Every single cave you wanna go 00:41:51.380 --> 00:41:54.400 in is dark. And once you go inside, you never 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:55.960 know, there might be a lot of things that you 00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:58.719 can find, you know, you can find gold. Yeah, 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.239 absolutely. Gorgeous. Awesome. Thank you. What 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.139 a conversation. I'm like, I'm just thriving. 00:42:05.420 --> 00:42:07.679 So we'll be in touch and have a great rest of 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.719 your day. Thank you. Thank you.