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Hello to the beautiful, the exquisite, the powerful

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everyday women of the world. Welcome to the Startup

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Stories podcast, where the ambitious everyday

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woman is heard, is held, and is served in life

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and in business, bringing you relatable stories

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to keep you sane, to keep you grounded. and to

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keep you growing as you expand yourself and deliver

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your purpose to the world. Every time I read

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that intro, I feel it a little bit deeper, ladies,

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a little bit deeper. And I hope that it helps

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for you to normalize your experience and reduce

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any pressure, competition, and scarcity that

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you might feel inside. Because here at Powerful

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Ink, we do not hijack the nervous system. We

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calm it, we hold space, and we just be. We just

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be, baby, because that's all we got to do, isn't

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it, Jackie? It is. It is. It's all you can do.

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It's all you can do. It's all you can do. Hey

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guys today I trolled the internet and I picked

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up another hot lady. I'm so glad you did. I'm

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so glad you did. I met Jackie a while ago but

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you know my style I'm just like who's out there

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and in the meantime lots of other guests are

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coming into the space too but it's super fun

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when I stalk somebody into being my friend. Oh

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my gosh. Monica Geller and me so... I don't know,

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friends reference, right? You'll have to Google

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the friends reference episode between Monica

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and Phoebe if you don't know what that means.

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But anyway, today, the beautiful, the delightful,

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the vivacious... Yeah, Jackie Mott is joining

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us and she's a fellow Canadian, which is important,

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lives about halfway, two thirds across the country

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in Ontario. And so I found Jackie on the old

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Facebook and just started a conversation with

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her and we... we've just connected on such a

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deep soul level and it's been so wonderful. And

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then as I get to know her more and we're going

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to dive into her story and who she is and what

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she's here to do, it's just a very beautiful

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and relatable experience where even if her story

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is not what happened to you, you'll find pieces

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of it that relate to your life. The takeaway

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that I want you to think about as we go into

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this conversation and I introduce her is where

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in my life am I holding myself back? Where in

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my life am I holding myself back? Could be something

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small like in the kitchen. Where am I not cooking

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a little bit more intentionally, a little bit

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more excitedly, right? Am I just doing pasta,

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sauce, meat? Or am I experimenting a little bit

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because getting chills already, this is where

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we really create ourselves. We're not here to

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create ourselves only through our business success.

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We're here to blend it all into every fiber of

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our being. everywhere we touch and that doesn't

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mean we have to be a master at everything. It's

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just a note and a highlight of encouragement

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to play in your life and push things a little

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bit further than they might be in whatever area.

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And this preamble to bring Jackie in because

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her story is like beautifully heartbreaking and

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wonderful. And Jackie's going to tell us that

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she wouldn't trade it for the world, but hot

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damn was it la poops when she was going through

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it. So her husband, 27 years of marriage, you

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know, beautiful child between them. And then

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27 years in. Bye bye. Thank you, ma 'am. So long.

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See you later. and Jackie was like WTF what just

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happened and found herself at her own ground

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zero and so what do you do when you're faced

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with such a harsh circumstance like that and

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it does affect you know here we talk a lot about

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external circumstance internal capacity but in

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this situation it's definitely hits your internal

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capacity and there's nothing so what do you do

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well you take one step then another right and

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you start to pull yourself up out of the rubble

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and this was Jackie's gateway to freedom to really

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see where she had been blocking herself and now

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she can live out loud and fully and wholly and

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from a highly empowered state and it doesn't

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mean she's the next Oprah although she'd be a

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great one. But this is now where she can create

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a life that she never thought was going to be

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possible. And now that her and I have joined

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forces too, we will not stand, sit or lay back

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and let you do the same. So Jackie, let's get

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into it, baby. Hello. Hello. Please talk now.

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That was, that was intense. Holy cow. Okay. I've

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got nothing to live up to here. Nothing. I was

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like, Sam, I'm ready. I am so excited that Mia

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did find me. I just have to tell you, it was

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amazing when we actually were able to finally

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connect and have a conversation. There was just,

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you know, one of those, as she says, the soul

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connection, that feeling of, okay, this person

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is meant to be in my world. And it doesn't happen.

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all that often, at least that deeply. I mean,

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so I have a theory that I'll share with you right

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off the hop is that we, I have about three circles

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in my world that people fit into. There are like

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the intimate circle, the closest people, there

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are about maybe five people in that realm. And

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that is because those are my ride or die people.

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Those are my people who showed up and proved

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to me that they had my back, proved to me that

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they were there no matter what. And then there's

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sort of the middle circle where we have all those

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other people that we're close with. We care about

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them. We care about them deeply. And yet they're

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not quite at... Now they could move into the

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inner circle. They could. And maybe it's time,

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maybe it's something needs to happen to show

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their true colors. It's hard to say, but we want

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to keep them close, but they're not quite in

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that like intimacy with us yet. And then there's

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the outer circle and that's sort of everybody

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that we know and people that we care about, people

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that we want to keep in our world. And yet, you

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know, maybe they're not really the right energy

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or the right fit for us, but we care about them.

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So Mia right now, I think she's edging her way

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in that inner circle, just so you're aware where

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she's where she's fitting in my world. She's

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sort of edging her way in. And I am so excited

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about that because I see what she is doing in

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this world. I see how valuable the work that

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she is doing is because not everybody is going

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to necessarily be the best Oprah. right? There's

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only one Oprah, right? And that's great. We need

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Oprah. We also need everybody else. We also need

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everybody else. And what would it feel like if

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we could start to embrace our lives and engage

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our lives with passion and excitement and like,

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whatever that is, I don't know if there are small

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kids around, they are great examples of this,

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right? What if we could change a dirty bum with

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laughter and joy and, you know, engaged, engaged

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with that child or with that adult that we care

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for, or with nature, or with whatever, cooking.

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It doesn't matter what it is. What if you could

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engage in your life in a passionate, ignited

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way? And I'm just here to tell you it's possible.

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It is absolutely possible. Yeah. So paint the

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picture for I'm like weeping already. A picture

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of us sucked right in. live engaged in your life.

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How were you living before? And who were you

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even 10 years ago? And, you know, and then we'll

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go through that and we'll come out and say what

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things started to change to really try and make

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it tangible. Because I'm not encouraging Big

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life events to happen in people's lives. Like

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the whole point is that we can do that right

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now listening to this podcast if you're Washing

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dishes and they're kind of clunking around, you

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know, you could turn up the volume and slow down

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the washing Just be here a little bit deeper

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right instead of having a 27 year relationship

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pull the rug out or you know other event other

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event type of thing so that that's the big piece

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because if we build that foundation when something

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happens as the saying goes when life gets lifey

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we'll be stronger to face it we'll be more resilient

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and that doesn't mean it's not going to suck

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it just means that we will do a more peaceful

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it'll be a more peaceful journey. It will still

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be painful, it will still have lessons, it will

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still have growth, but will be just a little

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bit more kind of like prepared or like stronger

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to walk into it. Okay, so first thing that I

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think I want to just say on that note is there

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are lots of things that happen in this life that

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we can't predict. And if you've been hit by one

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of those things, it's okay. It's okay to fall

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down. It's okay to struggle to get back up. It's

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okay. Okay, so if you're in that place right

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now with all of the love in my heart, take care

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of you and do what you need to do in this moment

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to get back on your feet. That's the first thing.

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Okay, and if that means that you need to rage,

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if that means that you need to scream, if that

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means that you need to hit a pillow, that means

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that you need to cry, if that means that you

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need to go and sit in nature for a little bit,

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do it. do it, because one of the things that

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I recognized as I was going through this process,

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and there's a lot to this story, so hopefully

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we can get everything in in this hour that I've

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got with you. But if not, then I'll come back.

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She'll be in the summit in November, guys, so

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stay tuned. One of the things that really became

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clear to me, and this actually was before the

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marriage ended, it was, I was doing a lot of

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writing. I lost my sister in a car accident about

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15 years ago, I think. And, um, I was doing a

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lot of writing because that's how I process and

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I'm pretty good at it. I'm pretty good at it.

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Well, book number one, international bestselling

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book. Um, so. I was doing a lot of writing and

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one of the things that hit me at one point was

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there is only one person on this planet that

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you will have with you from the moment you are

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born until the moment you die, right? One person

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and that's you, one. You are the person that

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you have so it is essential for us to take care

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of ourselves well. You know, you hear people

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talking about put the mask on first, right? it's

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essential that we take care of ourselves. What

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happened as a result of... So I'll just sort

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of give you the backstory really quickly. I became

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a mom at 17, lived on welfare with my son for

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I don't know how many years, probably five or

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six years before I was able to get an education.

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In the meantime, I met my former husband and...

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we started to build a life together and went

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back to school, got my college diploma, blah,

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blah, you know, all of that kind of stuff. Started

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a business. Started the business because I didn't

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know what else to do. My son had some challenges

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and keeping him in school or keeping him in like

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solid childcare became really difficult. So although

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I'd gone to school and gotten this education,

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I wasn't able to keep a job. between appointments

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and, you know, dealing with the circumstances,

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I wasn't able to keep a job. So I decided to

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start a business and wow, just, I had no idea

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what I was doing. I didn't know people who were

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in business. It was just like, okay, I've got

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this skill. I can do bookkeeping. I can do bookkeeping.

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And this was like a while ago, right? Before

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the internet was so prolific, right? 2020, yeah,

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25 years now. So I, I'm sorry, 2000. It was the

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year that it was the year that we got married.

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Um, anyway, so 25 years ago, I started this business

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and I'll tell you what, like face meet earth.

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It was insane because I didn't know what I was

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doing. I didn't know how to sell. I didn't come

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from that background. Right. And I had the skill

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set. So the beautiful thing was to keep trying

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and trying and trying. So started it here, then

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moved to another city, started it there, same

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result, then moved to Alberta, which is another

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province here in Canada, not far from Mia. The

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Canadian Texas. So we moved to Alberta and that

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one was the third time was a charm. Okay. And

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I learned so much in the process, but I also,

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and this is where I think this whole thing began,

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was making that move across the country with...

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My husband at the time, my almost grown son,

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a big dog named Missy and what we could carry

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into vehicles. That was we had no jobs waiting.

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We had a hotel room with a kitchenette waiting

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on the other end because I had come to a place

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where I understood that something had to change.

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And that was the thing that for some reason felt

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like it was the right move. And it was. because

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what happened was all of a sudden this Jackie

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person who had, you know, ruined her life at

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16 when she got pregnant. And, you know, all

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like, just forget it, Jackie, all of your dreams,

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all of your goals, all of your happy blah, blah,

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forget it. I had lived into that. And when I

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went to Alberta, all of a sudden they had people

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going, wait a second, you packed up two vehicles

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and moved across the country. How brave are you?

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Right. And so that feedback started to make me

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think about myself in a different way. Right.

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And I started to think, wow, you know, what if

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they're right? What if I'm not a failure? What

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if I'm not a loser? What if I'm not a, you know,

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what if I didn't ruin my life? What if I, what

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if there's still time? What if I could still

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become? Right. And that's where it starts to

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get really interesting. playing with those ideas.

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And at the time, I mean, I thought I had a solid

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marriage and I thought that we were good, right?

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I was building this business. We were accumulating

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some money for the first time in my life. We

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weren't living in abject poverty, you know, and

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it was like, Oh my God. So that was, I think

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the turning point for me. At a certain point,

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I got sick. We decided we were going to move.

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It was always in the cards that we were probably

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going to move home. But I got sick and it was

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necessary for us to make that decision earlier

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than anticipated. And about a year or so after

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that was when my sister had her car accident.

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So you had to move home in order to be there

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for that, right? Well, you know, in order to

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have time with her before. in order to have time

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with her before it happened. And then, you know,

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and I mean, there's a whole story that goes along

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with that. I don't really want to go too far

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into that right now. But the story was obviously,

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this was unexpected. This was a knock me flat

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moment. And one of the things I remember very

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clearly was thinking to myself like, I've lost

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people before. I've lost people before and I

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have never felt like this. I have never felt

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like I can't get back up on my feet. I've never

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felt like I can't function. I've never felt like

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just so lost and empty. And so the result was

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where the marriage I think started to fall apart.

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My ex -husband came home one day and to be fair,

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I had not been honest with anybody. I had not

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told anybody how badly I was struggling with

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my grief or what was actually happening inside

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me. But he came home one day and I was in my

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office sitting at my desk working away because

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that day I'd been able to find my focus, right?

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And it was so wonderful because I was... struggling,

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but I was accomplishing something. Right. And

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he came into my office and I'm like, what are

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you doing home in the middle of the day? And

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he goes, oh, I lost my job. Now, if you've ever

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seen that movie Titanic, like this is how this

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is how that moment felt for me. Every time I've

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seen that movie, it's like the moment that she

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pushes Jack off of the the door or whatever she's

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on in the ocean and he just sinks. That was the

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moment because I was struggling so much just

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to keep my head above water and to keep functioning

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and keep showing up and keep taking care of him

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and our son and the house and the dogs and my

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clients and show up and I had no idea how to

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do that but in that moment I felt very much alone

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and I felt like I went under. And he was unemployed

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for about a year and a half after that. By the

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time he found work again, we were struggling

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with some debt. And I mean, there's a whole other

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story there, right? Because debt and stress,

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financial stress is... really hard on a marriage,

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but it's also really hard on us in our beings

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and our bodies. It's really hard on us. So there

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was this stress of like, okay, I can't find my

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feet again. I don't know what like, what the

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hell does life look like without her? What does

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it look like to never have a Christmas with my

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sister again? You know, all of that kind of all

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of that kind of stuff. So I started going to

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the beach and I started listening to music in

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partly an effort to crack myself open because

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I recognized that I had gotten really shut down.

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you know, especially after the loss of the job,

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but I recognize that. And also what happened

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in the meantime was that people, you know, I'm

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pretty well connected in my community and people

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kind of like me, you know. So I'm going through

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this grief journey and people are saying to me,

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oh, could you come and speak for my group? Could

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you come and talk about what this has been like

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for you? She was also, by the way, she was also

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well known in the community. So I started to

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speak. And then one day this, this thing happened

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and, you know, isn't that always the way one

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day something happens. And I met these, these

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women and they were running this. monthly group

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thing called Mo Mondays. I'm not sure if it's

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everywhere, but in Ontario, it was really big

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in London for a while. And I had met them. I

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loved their energy. Same sort of, you know, like,

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oh, this person's meant to be here. So I was

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talking with them one day because I was going

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to these things and I loved it. The format was

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basically this. You have a life changing event

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that happens. So you share three things that

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you learned. You share the story, but you share

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three things that you learned as a result of

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that story. And excuse me. And, um, so I, I was

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just loving all of these, like people, some of

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them I knew really well, some of them I barely

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knew some of them I didn't know, but they were

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getting up there and they were sharing from a

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vulnerable place, something that had happened

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to them and what that had created for them. So

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I remember saying to one of them one night, Uh,

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you know, I, I just love this so much and one

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of these days I'm going to get on that stage.

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Ah, so you were just going, you were just going.

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Yeah. Yeah. One of these days I'm going to be

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on that stage. And the ironic thing was that

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I, I was terrified of public speaking at that

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time. So small groups were okay. You know, five,

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10 people, that was fine. But once you got into

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like hundreds of people, forget it. Yeah, sure.

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So. I don't know maybe two weeks later I get

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a call from one of them and she go right she

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goes um so one of our speakers had to cancel

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something came up for them and they had to cancel

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for our next show which is in two weeks and uh

00:23:18.740 --> 00:23:20.259
we have a spot to fill we'd like you to fill

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it and I was like yes yes yes I'll do it yes

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yeah because I've also learned that most of the

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time when you get that yeah There's a thing.

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There's a thing that can be really, really good

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for you if you allow it. Yes. Yeah, so I started

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to frantically write and I was writing writing

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writing writing because I was trying to figure

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out my three things and So I was writing this

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whole thing about this grief journey and what

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it was like to lose my sister and what what you

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know what I learned in the process getting getting

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prepared because I've got to be on a stage in

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front of hundreds of people in two weeks and

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I've got to come up with a talk and most people

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have months to prepare for this and I've got

00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:08.039
two weeks to do it anyway, so I'm like frantically

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writing And one day I had this moment where I

00:24:13.500 --> 00:24:18.839
hit my own grief and that hadn't happened yet

00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.579
because I was so busy taking care of everybody

00:24:21.579 --> 00:24:27.539
and everything that I had not yet hit this place

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where I recognized that I had lost my big sister.

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You know, I'd lost the one who had danced me

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around the living room on her feet and taught

00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:40.519
me how to drive and taught me how to apply eye

00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:43.579
makeup and helped me take care of my son when

00:24:43.579 --> 00:24:50.460
he was small and all of these things. And, oh

00:24:50.460 --> 00:24:54.539
my God, it hurt, but it cracked it. Like it cracked

00:24:54.539 --> 00:24:59.079
me wide open and all of this pain poured out.

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Also, one of the really great things for me was

00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.200
writing. And so whatever your thing is, like

00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:06.980
maybe it's baking, maybe it's writing, maybe

00:25:06.980 --> 00:25:08.720
it's speaking, maybe it's singing, I don't know

00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.000
what it is. Because each of us, there will be

00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.539
a different thing that we can do to help us process.

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So if you don't know what that is, find it. Journaling

00:25:18.859 --> 00:25:23.160
can be a really great place to start. Find it.

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So that's what happened. They hit this grief

00:25:26.500 --> 00:25:28.700
place. And I already had my three things, by

00:25:28.700 --> 00:25:30.900
the way. When I hit that grief place, I already

00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:33.220
had my three things. I knew exactly what I was

00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:36.359
going to say. Well, that night comes and I get

00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.980
up on that stage and, you know, knees knocking.

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But the most beautiful thing happened was as

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.599
soon as the spotlight hit me, I felt like I was

00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:49.480
home and I wasn't trying to be anybody that I

00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:54.339
wasn't. I was sharing my story from the place

00:25:54.339 --> 00:25:58.299
in my heart that it was real. and it was true.

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And the audience was with me every single step.

00:26:03.660 --> 00:26:07.299
It was amazing. It was like, I am looking out

00:26:07.299 --> 00:26:09.220
because people tell you, right? People tell you

00:26:09.220 --> 00:26:11.960
what to do from stage. They go, okay, so don't

00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.960
focus on one person. You've got to scan, right?

00:26:14.980 --> 00:26:18.140
And you've got to engage people and maybe focus

00:26:18.140 --> 00:26:20.619
on one person in a moment, whatever. There are

00:26:20.619 --> 00:26:24.250
techniques for this, right? So I'm, I'm doing

00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:27.549
all the techniques and I'm, I'm talking about

00:26:27.549 --> 00:26:31.809
this very personal, very painful moment in my

00:26:31.809 --> 00:26:35.230
life. They were crying. They were laughing. They

00:26:35.230 --> 00:26:38.089
were, you know, they were with me. They were

00:26:38.089 --> 00:26:42.809
absolute with me. And I finally got to the place

00:26:42.809 --> 00:26:46.369
where my second thing and I had said, okay, so

00:26:46.369 --> 00:26:49.430
I'm, I'm a believer in God and I had said, there

00:26:49.430 --> 00:26:54.630
is no way. that I am going to share that, that

00:26:54.630 --> 00:27:01.089
part that is so raw and so ouchy. There is no

00:27:01.089 --> 00:27:05.269
way that I am going to say that from that stage.

00:27:06.710 --> 00:27:11.849
And I got my second point out and then my mind

00:27:11.849 --> 00:27:13.990
went completely blank and the only thing that

00:27:13.990 --> 00:27:19.839
was left was that. And I'm so glad because I

00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.880
had people coming to me months and months and

00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.440
months later saying thank you for sharing that

00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:29.579
because your willingness to open that up allowed

00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:31.960
me to deal with my grief about my father that

00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:35.849
I lost 30 years ago. you know, allowed me to,

00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:38.710
uh, I was hearing from people that I knew that

00:27:38.710 --> 00:27:41.369
somebody came to me and they, I'm like counselors,

00:27:41.369 --> 00:27:43.289
right? They couldn't tell me who it was and that

00:27:43.289 --> 00:27:47.109
was okay, but somebody came to get help because

00:27:47.109 --> 00:27:50.890
of what you said on that stage. And I was like,

00:27:51.490 --> 00:27:57.670
what? Like, I'm just a bookkeeper, right? I'm

00:27:57.670 --> 00:27:59.990
just a bookkeeper and a wife and a mom and a

00:27:59.990 --> 00:28:04.220
dog owner and a, like I'm, huh? Yeah. So that's

00:28:04.220 --> 00:28:07.359
where it started to get really interesting. The

00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.299
piece about the marriage. Let's pull out a few

00:28:10.299 --> 00:28:15.180
pieces here. Sure. In this. So I want you guys

00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:18.680
to really hear what's happening in Jackie's life.

00:28:18.859 --> 00:28:23.400
It's happening over a longer period of time and

00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:29.220
it's building into something. And as life is

00:28:29.220 --> 00:28:33.250
advancing over time, Jackie's starting to respond

00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:36.490
to things a little bit differently, starting

00:28:36.490 --> 00:28:38.990
to think about things a little bit differently,

00:28:39.630 --> 00:28:43.269
which then allows her to see opportunities that

00:28:43.269 --> 00:28:48.410
she might not have considered before and is opening

00:28:48.410 --> 00:28:54.069
her up to more, maybe, well, let's try. Well,

00:28:54.069 --> 00:28:59.160
what could that look like? Rather than The the

00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:03.000
very painful initial story of I ruined my whole

00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.200
life There's nothing left and like she was still

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:10.539
a baby herself as a teenager, right? And so we're

00:29:10.539 --> 00:29:14.259
these are all just such Everyday examples of

00:29:14.259 --> 00:29:17.819
where we might be holding ourselves back from

00:29:17.819 --> 00:29:22.059
ourselves with some bullshit limiting belief

00:29:22.059 --> 00:29:27.950
excuse not to and so when Jackie was saying well

00:29:27.950 --> 00:29:30.890
what if this and maybe I'm not bad it's one of

00:29:30.890 --> 00:29:35.630
my favorite and easiest kind of coaching tools

00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:39.049
or even just self -reflection as a side by side

00:29:39.049 --> 00:29:42.609
where you have your current belief and then well

00:29:42.609 --> 00:29:45.069
what else could be possible because there's like

00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:48.789
nine billion plus people on the planet so whatever

00:29:48.789 --> 00:29:51.450
precise reality you're living in is not the only

00:29:51.450 --> 00:29:55.470
reality that you have available to you if nine

00:29:55.740 --> 00:30:01.240
nine billion minus one other people have done

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.599
things slightly different than you right and

00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.819
that's not a comparison that is what is possible

00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:10.920
what is possible and then that the things that

00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.079
we go through are sometimes and most often meant

00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:21.000
for much greater God uses us to help reach others

00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.549
and that's such a poignant and like you know,

00:30:25.789 --> 00:30:27.470
laugh out of my chair, because of course he would

00:30:27.470 --> 00:30:30.069
do that. Oh, you don't want to say that? Poof!

00:30:30.289 --> 00:30:34.289
And he like waves his magic wand. And then he's

00:30:34.289 --> 00:30:35.849
like, what are you going to talk about now, huh?

00:30:37.029 --> 00:30:41.329
And you're like, ah! This is one of my, and Lord

00:30:41.329 --> 00:30:43.650
forgive me, but one of my kind of sarcastic and

00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:45.250
hilarious things. It's like, it can be a pain

00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:47.650
in the butt to follow Jesus because then you

00:30:47.650 --> 00:30:50.109
couldn't do the things you don't want to do.

00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:54.880
but he equips you to do them. And then look at,

00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.759
look at where it took Jackie, not only for your

00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.880
own healing Jackie, but then to touch other people's

00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:07.900
lives. And then in that you realize you're so

00:31:07.900 --> 00:31:13.180
much like, how much is possible for you as a

00:31:13.180 --> 00:31:15.140
result of that. This isn't relating to bookkeeping.

00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:17.480
This isn't to land coaching clients. This isn't

00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.480
to like, rah rah how you went from you know 250

00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:25.059
,000 in debt to a million in the green in the

00:31:25.059 --> 00:31:29.359
bank. This is just heart to heart sharing for

00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.440
your healing and for just the reason that you

00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.299
said yes to that speaking invitation and the

00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:39.960
timing of that was meant to now take us into

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.039
this next part of your story because you haven't

00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.160
your husband hasn't left you yet at this point.

00:31:44.900 --> 00:31:47.519
No. No, we were still together at this point,

00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:51.259
but what had started to shift in me and I'm going

00:31:51.259 --> 00:31:56.339
to share with you one of the. One of the hardest

00:31:56.339 --> 00:32:00.559
pieces of releasing my marriage and releasing

00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:06.799
him was a sense of guilt because now this thing

00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:11.279
has happened, right? So I've I've had this. momentous

00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:15.299
moment on stage. And I've had this thing happen

00:32:15.299 --> 00:32:17.940
where my sister is now gone, and that's caused

00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:20.720
me to re -examine my life. And am I happy? And

00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.299
what am I doing? And what could I be doing? And

00:32:24.299 --> 00:32:27.640
to your point, Mia, one of the things that I

00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.220
love to talk about is mindset. I mean, that's

00:32:30.220 --> 00:32:37.720
really my shtick, right? And we think that we

00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:41.039
know everything. Our brain is an amazing, wonderful

00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.420
machine. And it tells us what is possible. It

00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:48.160
tells us what we can have. It tells us there's

00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.119
all this conditioning inside us that says, okay,

00:32:51.259 --> 00:32:52.980
Jackie, you're just a bookkeeper. Jackie, you

00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:55.119
ruined your life at 16. Jackie, you blah, blah,

00:32:55.339 --> 00:32:56.680
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.759
Right? But here's the thing. Our mind is very

00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.779
limited because it's limited to the information

00:33:03.779 --> 00:33:08.059
it already has. And as Mia said, there are 9

00:33:08.059 --> 00:33:11.039
billion people on this planet. How many places

00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.180
have you never seen? How many experiences that

00:33:14.180 --> 00:33:16.279
have you never had? When you start to play with

00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.880
this, like, wow is something. And I love just

00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:25.440
maybe, just maybe because there's no pressure,

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.440
right? And then I can, I can play with it and

00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.579
I can be like, Ooh, what might that be like?

00:33:32.299 --> 00:33:34.779
What might it be like to go and work on a beach?

00:33:34.910 --> 00:33:40.869
Right? Like just somebody pampering me all day

00:33:40.869 --> 00:33:46.150
long. What might that be like? So getting into

00:33:46.150 --> 00:33:51.789
the really crazy time. So it was nine days before

00:33:51.789 --> 00:33:54.009
my tax deadline, still doing bookkeeping and

00:33:54.009 --> 00:33:58.630
taxes. And we had had a separation a couple of

00:33:58.630 --> 00:34:01.190
years earlier for a few months, but then he came

00:34:01.190 --> 00:34:04.490
back. And he said to me, because by then I'd

00:34:04.490 --> 00:34:06.329
started coaching, you know, like people were

00:34:06.329 --> 00:34:08.409
like, Oh, I want to work with you. Oh, I've seen

00:34:08.409 --> 00:34:10.889
you speak. Oh, you know, I want to, how can you

00:34:10.889 --> 00:34:13.369
help me? And so I'd started coaching and I was

00:34:13.369 --> 00:34:19.010
speaking and he said when he came home that,

00:34:19.010 --> 00:34:25.690
um, that he couldn't get behind that work. So

00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:30.039
If I wanted the marriage, then I needed to let

00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.639
that go and focus on the accounting. And I did.

00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.940
And I'm not going to say that I regret that because,

00:34:36.940 --> 00:34:39.860
you know, I don't regret much. You know, it was

00:34:39.860 --> 00:34:41.900
the decision that I made at the time. I did lose

00:34:41.900 --> 00:34:46.760
a lot of momentum. Right. And it's okay. It's

00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.559
okay. Because, you know, momentum, you can build

00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.940
it again. I mean, here's the thing. If you have

00:34:52.940 --> 00:34:59.590
built it once, you can build it again. Okay?

00:35:00.030 --> 00:35:06.670
So sometimes the timing is not right now, but

00:35:06.670 --> 00:35:10.090
if you've done it, if you have the skill set,

00:35:10.170 --> 00:35:14.789
if you have the God given gift to do something,

00:35:16.409 --> 00:35:18.730
it may go away for a little while. You may make

00:35:18.730 --> 00:35:20.929
decisions that might take that a bit off track

00:35:20.929 --> 00:35:25.269
and that's okay. It's okay, because you will

00:35:25.269 --> 00:35:28.449
find your way back. Those things that are meant

00:35:28.449 --> 00:35:32.809
for us are never gone. They are never gone. It's

00:35:32.809 --> 00:35:37.130
so important to sit in that, you guys, because

00:35:37.130 --> 00:35:40.510
otherwise you're always activating and hijacking

00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:43.389
your nervous system in scarcity and survival

00:35:43.389 --> 00:35:46.840
mode. this is a big piece I swear I'm living

00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.139
through it now of just being okay with what is

00:35:50.139 --> 00:35:53.280
and what's happening is like I'm showing up way

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.820
more comfortable yeah because now it just is

00:35:56.820 --> 00:35:59.579
it is like hanging out with friends when I'm

00:35:59.579 --> 00:36:03.800
out there offering my my coaching services audience

00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.280
or not I'm just like this is where it's coming

00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:11.519
from and it is pressureless and there is a an

00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.440
expected result, but there's no like Amazon 24

00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:20.719
hour delivery guarantee. And normalizing that

00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:26.239
and creating that safety in your body is so crucial

00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:31.579
to sustaining it. And like Jackie's saying, to

00:36:31.579 --> 00:36:35.119
waiting for when it comes around again. And in

00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:39.380
this case, you were shown Something very big

00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:43.599
like like a day in the life of Jackie Five years

00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.400
from now or whatever the timeline is Right. And

00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:50.000
so now you have evidence in your life. Your brain

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.460
has this more information That is in the database

00:36:54.460 --> 00:36:59.340
that you can access again So yes, I love that

00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:01.960
because you don't have to do everything right

00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.019
now. We You know, we take each day as it comes

00:37:07.019 --> 00:37:10.079
but we can take a little bit for granted that

00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.780
there are more days to come too. Okay so keep

00:37:13.780 --> 00:37:16.900
us going because that's that is really powerful

00:37:16.900 --> 00:37:19.579
of sitting in the moment and what's really great

00:37:19.579 --> 00:37:23.780
here too Jackie is you you came back to all of

00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:26.500
that so now you're living evidence to all of

00:37:26.500 --> 00:37:32.010
the listeners and that you can rebuild momentum

00:37:32.010 --> 00:37:35.110
and that really allows that scarcity mindset

00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:41.289
to drop away and be safe with what is. Yeah and

00:37:41.289 --> 00:37:44.449
one of the things when we're talking about lack

00:37:44.449 --> 00:37:48.190
or scarcity one of the things that I oh god I

00:37:48.190 --> 00:37:50.550
just love you gotta get the book because it's

00:37:50.550 --> 00:37:53.429
all in there but one of the things I really love

00:37:53.429 --> 00:37:56.929
to say is like you've always had enough. Yeah.

00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.980
You've always had enough and I know that you've

00:37:59.980 --> 00:38:03.019
always had enough because you're still here,

00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.260
you're still breathing, you're still with us

00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:10.320
and you're with us on this podcast. Right? So

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.039
you've always had enough. Now, maybe it's time

00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.300
to start thinking about what would I like? What

00:38:17.300 --> 00:38:21.460
would I enjoy? You know, maybe enough isn't enough

00:38:21.460 --> 00:38:25.880
anymore. Right? So, and it's okay if it takes

00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.900
you time. It's okay if you have to step out.

00:38:31.179 --> 00:38:36.780
The guilt that I dealt with was because I knew

00:38:36.780 --> 00:38:41.679
that something was shifting and I had so much,

00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.940
it was a very codependent relationship. And I

00:38:44.940 --> 00:38:48.420
had so much invested in him, in the relationship,

00:38:48.900 --> 00:38:52.000
all of my goals, all of my dreams, all of my...

00:38:51.630 --> 00:38:55.030
plans for the future were all tied up in this

00:38:55.030 --> 00:38:59.469
marriage and making him happy, you know, and

00:38:59.469 --> 00:39:03.690
being the perfect wife, which I wasn't, but you

00:39:03.690 --> 00:39:06.409
know, that was, and that was also another stick

00:39:06.409 --> 00:39:08.190
that I would beat myself over the head with,

00:39:08.190 --> 00:39:11.190
right? I'm not the perfect wife. Well, who is,

00:39:11.630 --> 00:39:16.329
who is, right? So it was actually a blessing

00:39:16.329 --> 00:39:20.849
and it took me a long time to get there because

00:39:21.579 --> 00:39:24.800
I was just feeling guilty and I was feeling obligated.

00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:28.139
I was feeling like, okay, I took these vows,

00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:33.400
but man, what would my life be like? What could

00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:39.159
my life be like? And understanding on some really

00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.300
deep level that he simply couldn't go with me,

00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.570
whether he may want to or not. he wasn't the

00:39:47.570 --> 00:39:51.389
right person to accompany me on this leg of my

00:39:51.389 --> 00:39:55.929
journey. He had been valuable to me for, obviously,

00:39:55.969 --> 00:40:00.610
for a long time, right? In some ways, and one

00:40:00.610 --> 00:40:05.090
of them was providing me the safety and the feeling

00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:09.829
of security in my life because he was my husband,

00:40:09.849 --> 00:40:14.269
right? And so that created this false sense of

00:40:14.269 --> 00:40:17.820
security, in all honesty, but This security that

00:40:17.820 --> 00:40:21.699
I had allowed me to then explore and blossom

00:40:21.699 --> 00:40:26.440
into who I was becoming and heal those things

00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.800
inside, or at least start healing. I mean, I

00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.119
don't believe healing is ever like one and done

00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.480
thing. I think it's a journey, right? But starting

00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.099
that healing starting that emergence starting

00:40:38.099 --> 00:40:42.400
that you know Blossoming into and exploring these

00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.820
like oh, I'm just a bookkeeper But man, I did

00:40:44.820 --> 00:40:48.099
that holy crap really that happened because of

00:40:48.099 --> 00:40:49.800
something that I said on a stage. Are you kidding

00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:54.099
me? Um, so all of that, anyway, so nine days

00:40:54.099 --> 00:40:57.880
before my, my tax deadline, um, I came upstairs

00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.960
and, uh, he was up earlier than I was. He was

00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.360
sitting in the living room and I made myself

00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.960
a coffee. I had a client coming in an hour and

00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.760
a half. So I had an hour and a half to start

00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:11.760
my day, make my coffee, have my shower, all of

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:15.119
the stuff, right? Brand new client coming in

00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.000
an hour and a half. And, um, so I, I said, good

00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.019
morning, gave him a kiss. hug, opened up the

00:41:22.019 --> 00:41:25.739
blinds. And I was like, okay, so we haven't really

00:41:25.739 --> 00:41:28.599
had a lot of time together lately, you know,

00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:30.800
because it's been really busy. How do you feel

00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:33.840
about going to a movie tonight? Oh, well, you

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.239
know, the hockey game's on tonight. And I went,

00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.579
okay, so I'm feeling really disconnected from

00:41:42.579 --> 00:41:44.699
you. And I really would like to spend some time

00:41:44.699 --> 00:41:48.340
together tonight. And his response was that He

00:41:48.340 --> 00:41:51.500
wasn't happy. He hadn't been happy. He hadn't

00:41:51.500 --> 00:41:54.219
wanted to do this that particular day, but since

00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:59.420
I'd brought it up, he was done with the marriage.

00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:03.760
And he was gone. He was packed and gone within

00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.460
about two hours. So while I was meeting with

00:42:06.460 --> 00:42:12.780
this new client, he was packing. and gone, the

00:42:12.780 --> 00:42:15.739
moment that that person went out the door, he

00:42:15.739 --> 00:42:19.460
showed up at my office door and the car was packed,

00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:26.739
he was going. So, yeah, like my entire life blew

00:42:26.739 --> 00:42:33.130
up in minutes. in minutes. And there was a real

00:42:33.130 --> 00:42:35.789
journey to that healing. And I still, in all

00:42:35.789 --> 00:42:37.570
honesty, I still feel like sometimes I'm going

00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:40.650
through pieces of that, right? Because it hit

00:42:40.650 --> 00:42:43.570
so many different things. I found out that there

00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:49.650
was another person a few weeks later and that

00:42:49.650 --> 00:42:55.489
hit every, right? Right? Like, not enough, not

00:42:55.489 --> 00:42:58.030
good, no matter what I did. No, I'm piece of

00:42:58.030 --> 00:43:01.989
crap. It's that rich. Wow. Like it brought up

00:43:01.989 --> 00:43:06.949
all of my, I call them demons. I call these voices

00:43:06.949 --> 00:43:08.889
in the back of my head. I call them my demons.

00:43:08.889 --> 00:43:11.849
And I say that I dance with them sometimes. Right?

00:43:11.909 --> 00:43:14.030
So when my demon starts to tell me I'm not good

00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:16.809
enough, when my demon starts to tell me that

00:43:16.809 --> 00:43:20.309
I'm not pretty enough or skinny enough, or, you

00:43:20.309 --> 00:43:23.610
know, or what, anything, I'm not funny enough.

00:43:23.710 --> 00:43:26.409
I'm not smart enough. I'm not like anything enough.

00:43:26.730 --> 00:43:30.659
Right? Not the truth. That's why I call it a

00:43:30.659 --> 00:43:34.260
demon because it is not truth, right? I did not

00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:38.320
ruin my life when I was 16 years old. I did not

00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.719
ruin my life by marrying the person that I married.

00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.960
I did not ruin my life. Darlings, your life is

00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.280
not ruined. You may be going through some temporary

00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:52.480
crap. You may have made decisions that have made

00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:58.079
things more challenging. You know, I was an A

00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.019
plus student. I was an honor roll student when

00:44:00.019 --> 00:44:03.760
I, when I got pregnant and when I think about

00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:09.440
that girl and what she bought into the, the stories

00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.239
that she bought into. And I think, ah, ah, my

00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.860
heart breaks for her, you know, because the truth

00:44:16.860 --> 00:44:18.639
is the matter. Like what, Oh, what did she do

00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.440
wrong? Oh, there's a baby coming. Oh no. Oh no.

00:44:22.579 --> 00:44:26.940
There's a, there's a beautiful creation. gift

00:44:26.940 --> 00:44:32.300
from God showing up on this planet. Oh, no. Right?

00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:38.179
Stigma, stigma, stigma. If, if I had had a different

00:44:38.179 --> 00:44:40.099
point of view that I could have bought into,

00:44:41.099 --> 00:44:43.760
I mean, yes, things are definitely more complicated,

00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.380
but there is no reason in the world why I could

00:44:46.380 --> 00:44:52.519
not have gone on to do everything that I thought

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.800
that I wanted to do. There's no reason in the

00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.840
world. Right, so this is this is the stuff. This

00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.179
is this believe all things are possible because

00:45:01.179 --> 00:45:05.460
our beliefs shape our reality They shape what

00:45:05.460 --> 00:45:07.659
we believe that we can do or what's available

00:45:07.659 --> 00:45:09.920
to us. What does it mean to love or be loved?

00:45:10.019 --> 00:45:12.780
What does it mean to be successful or failure?

00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.500
What does it mean? What does it mean to have

00:45:15.500 --> 00:45:17.980
money or not have money? What does it mean? And

00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:20.519
that's all living back there. And we can change

00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.599
that. And that is the really exciting thing that

00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.900
came out of all of this, like, holy crap, what

00:45:27.900 --> 00:45:30.380
does it mean that he's now found another person?

00:45:30.980 --> 00:45:33.559
What does it mean that I wasn't enough to keep

00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:36.940
him satisfied and at home? What does it mean

00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:39.940
that I have now been left? And when you talk

00:45:39.940 --> 00:45:45.119
about debt, holy crap, the financial mess, what

00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.420
does it mean? what does all of this mean? I thought

00:45:47.420 --> 00:45:50.099
I would lose my house. I thought that I would

00:45:50.099 --> 00:45:51.920
become dependent on my mother for the rest of

00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.920
my life. I thought, I thought, I thought. And

00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:57.940
like you think about that and you're like, okay,

00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.960
but you, you had a bookkeeping business. You

00:45:59.960 --> 00:46:03.539
were successful, right? Why would you think that

00:46:03.539 --> 00:46:05.199
you were going to become dependent on your mother?

00:46:06.019 --> 00:46:09.360
Like, where does that come from? It comes from

00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:15.400
here. Like you said, the brain as a database

00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:21.179
only sees and processes what it has. And the

00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:26.159
unknown is literally unknown. But if you can

00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:30.440
play in that maybe space or the side -by -side

00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.420
alternate reality game. Then you can start to

00:46:34.420 --> 00:46:36.699
bring that in and I think that's the power of

00:46:36.699 --> 00:46:40.300
visualization not as something frou -frou but

00:46:40.300 --> 00:46:46.159
of a climatizing your physiological self feel

00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:52.559
and and be in a situation different than the

00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:56.849
one that you're actually living and then you

00:46:56.849 --> 00:47:01.329
normalize that you familiarize that and it becomes

00:47:01.329 --> 00:47:05.170
part of your database even though it hasn't happened

00:47:05.170 --> 00:47:08.710
and you know manifestation prayers answered preferably

00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:14.449
thank you and working towards that with a conviction

00:47:14.449 --> 00:47:19.550
and a certainty that maybe it is possible and

00:47:19.550 --> 00:47:23.849
in all of this you said at the beginning like

00:47:23.849 --> 00:47:28.460
engaging in your life a little bit more. So we've

00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:32.460
heard of being present, oh look at my computer

00:47:32.460 --> 00:47:37.380
and how silver it is. Also like you are the steward

00:47:37.380 --> 00:47:41.840
of your thoughts because you are a soul living

00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:47.659
in a body and if you can observe your mind and

00:47:47.659 --> 00:47:51.630
its thoughts and let your soul kind of go around

00:47:51.630 --> 00:47:55.329
that, then you steward your thoughts, which believe

00:47:55.329 --> 00:47:59.809
such a great title for a book all about the actual

00:47:59.809 --> 00:48:04.550
way that you do this in your day. Right? Like

00:48:04.550 --> 00:48:07.690
again, guys wearing the best day ever t -shirt,

00:48:08.010 --> 00:48:12.230
copy number two, three of these t -shirts and

00:48:12.230 --> 00:48:13.809
then I'll stop wearing the same stinky t -shirt

00:48:13.809 --> 00:48:17.429
every day. Anyway, this is how you have your

00:48:17.429 --> 00:48:21.190
best day ever, every day. Like I kind of have

00:48:21.190 --> 00:48:23.250
given an example and then we'll give it back

00:48:23.250 --> 00:48:25.269
to Jackie to kind of round off because her and

00:48:25.269 --> 00:48:27.849
I, oh my God, we need to do like a day long workshop

00:48:27.849 --> 00:48:33.070
or something around all of this deep, deep conversation.

00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:36.130
But the thing is, it's just happening in the

00:48:36.130 --> 00:48:39.469
day to day. It is like Jackie still has her job

00:48:39.469 --> 00:48:42.230
as a bookkeeper, her business, right? She's launched

00:48:42.230 --> 00:48:45.130
her coaching career. She's become a bestselling

00:48:45.130 --> 00:48:48.500
international author. But she's still Jackie.

00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:51.780
She still has her son. She still has her friend.

00:48:51.860 --> 00:48:54.679
She still has her life. It's not like she's jet

00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:57.500
setting with diamonds, you know, on the daily.

00:48:57.619 --> 00:48:59.980
Like we're still just the women that we were.

00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.039
We're just more of her because we're practicing

00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.219
and implementing this into the day to day. So

00:49:08.219 --> 00:49:11.420
I just want to give a hopefully a very relatable

00:49:11.420 --> 00:49:16.730
and boring example of what all of this means

00:49:16.730 --> 00:49:20.849
I have a dumb but important job, right? When

00:49:20.849 --> 00:49:23.789
neighbors complain about each other, I come in

00:49:23.789 --> 00:49:27.869
and sort them out. And it's hilarious to me because

00:49:27.869 --> 00:49:35.510
I am like such a youthful and colourful person

00:49:35.510 --> 00:49:40.889
who has to do this very serious and authoritative

00:49:40.889 --> 00:49:45.909
type job. So I always have this duality of...

00:49:45.739 --> 00:49:48.099
you know, two different personalities that have

00:49:48.099 --> 00:49:50.860
to coexist. So instead, I mush them together

00:49:50.860 --> 00:49:55.139
and I get some semblance of a decent bylaw officer

00:49:55.139 --> 00:49:58.679
out of it, because I was, I was compartmentalizing

00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.239
them. And the context here is just that is this

00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.079
mindset, where you let your soul lead as what

00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.820
else is possible. Well, I have to be like this,

00:50:08.860 --> 00:50:11.340
and I have to be serious, and I have to that.

00:50:13.539 --> 00:50:18.380
At work, I allow myself to be expressed professionally.

00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.420
I'm representing my local government, so I am,

00:50:23.420 --> 00:50:26.059
you know, sort of like an ambassador and I am

00:50:26.059 --> 00:50:29.480
branded under their culture, but I am still Mia,

00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.800
the beautiful, sparkly human, and I can have

00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.860
some fun with it. And I have a lot of autonomy

00:50:35.860 --> 00:50:40.039
over how I run that service. And there are days

00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:45.610
where the complaints are so... mundane and petty

00:50:45.610 --> 00:50:51.230
that I get frustrated. So now I allow that frustration,

00:50:51.429 --> 00:50:54.170
like Jackie was saying, let yourself go through

00:50:54.170 --> 00:50:58.710
it, express those emotions, and then come back

00:50:58.710 --> 00:51:01.230
around. And for me now, I'm like, well, how can

00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:05.110
I have fun with this? How can I engage and create

00:51:05.110 --> 00:51:08.369
meaning for myself in this and make it interesting

00:51:08.369 --> 00:51:13.670
by shifting my perspective? I am not in the business

00:51:13.670 --> 00:51:16.269
of behavior change. You are in the business of

00:51:16.269 --> 00:51:18.530
your own behavior change, which is like, you

00:51:18.530 --> 00:51:20.530
know, great catchphrase for what Jackie and I

00:51:20.530 --> 00:51:23.710
are talking about here. So if I can't change

00:51:23.710 --> 00:51:25.590
how somebody else is going to behave, including

00:51:25.590 --> 00:51:27.909
my child every morning on the way to school or

00:51:27.909 --> 00:51:30.570
at bedtime every night, bless her sweet little

00:51:30.570 --> 00:51:32.789
heart, wouldn't trade her for the world, then

00:51:32.789 --> 00:51:35.650
what am I going to change about myself? And how

00:51:35.650 --> 00:51:38.309
am I going to make this better and more peaceful

00:51:38.309 --> 00:51:43.420
and enjoyable for myself? And so very wonderfully,

00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.840
like I honestly, guys, I hate returning voicemails

00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:52.079
at work. I dread it. But then every once in a

00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.739
while I get given a gift and I returned a voicemail

00:51:55.739 --> 00:51:57.980
with a woman and I'm going through the list and

00:51:57.980 --> 00:52:00.280
I'm like, okay, here we go another one. Hi, someone's

00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.699
calling back. How can I help you? And it was

00:52:03.699 --> 00:52:06.400
a complaint about noise and you just, you never

00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.219
know what you're walking into. And this is where

00:52:09.219 --> 00:52:13.179
when you apply the thought stewardship, you can

00:52:13.179 --> 00:52:15.119
have little blessings like this. So I just want

00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.219
to keep reminding of the context while I share

00:52:17.219 --> 00:52:20.920
this delightful story. So I call this woman back,

00:52:20.980 --> 00:52:24.659
she's complaining about noise and there's construction

00:52:24.659 --> 00:52:28.460
happening very close proximity to her home and

00:52:28.460 --> 00:52:32.199
it's rattling the bed. She's telling me this.

00:52:32.429 --> 00:52:34.809
She's like, is there anything that can be done?

00:52:34.849 --> 00:52:37.050
Because it really rattles the bed. And then there's

00:52:37.050 --> 00:52:39.730
like this very, it felt like a very conscious

00:52:39.730 --> 00:52:42.409
pause between the two of us. And then she goes,

00:52:42.769 --> 00:52:45.030
I mean, I know some people would pay good money

00:52:45.030 --> 00:52:49.329
for that. This little fellow to my chair. And

00:52:49.329 --> 00:52:53.429
I was like, oh. And now we're howling on the

00:52:53.429 --> 00:52:57.090
phone. Thank you for saying that because I was

00:52:57.090 --> 00:52:59.309
totally thinking it. So we're like, we're staying

00:52:59.309 --> 00:53:01.230
in the professional capacity, but we're being

00:53:01.230 --> 00:53:04.309
real with each other. And that was it. That just

00:53:04.309 --> 00:53:07.909
erased all of the other garbage that was holding

00:53:07.909 --> 00:53:11.210
on in the day, right? So sometimes somebody can

00:53:11.210 --> 00:53:14.699
help shake you out of it, but You have to be

00:53:14.699 --> 00:53:16.739
a little bit soft inside like Jackie was saying

00:53:16.739 --> 00:53:18.659
about the cracking of the grief. You have to

00:53:18.659 --> 00:53:20.659
be a little bit soft and when you go through

00:53:20.659 --> 00:53:24.000
something and you hold yourself you can apply

00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:30.679
it everywhere. Everywhere. I joke a lot about

00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:35.699
folding laundry but I have been doing conscious

00:53:35.699 --> 00:53:39.599
thought stewardship that when I fold and it sounds

00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.260
so cheesy but like I'm really grateful to have

00:53:43.260 --> 00:53:48.780
the hat laundry. I have too many clothes so if

00:53:48.780 --> 00:53:51.820
I don't like folding laundry my choices are get

00:53:51.820 --> 00:53:57.119
rid all your clothes girl or enjoy having what

00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.480
you have and it's so simple and sometimes I get

00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:04.099
a bit frustrated with like all the cliches of

00:54:04.099 --> 00:54:10.840
it but this is how we really Like what Jackie

00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:15.380
reprogram build build ourselves build ourselves

00:54:15.380 --> 00:54:20.000
into a state of it's always been enough But now

00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.800
how can I turn that enough into more? service

00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:29.960
and Even return in my own life Yeah, I have a

00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:31.920
phrase that I use when I talk about this stuff

00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:35.440
and it's the subliminal soundtrack So I talk

00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.320
about it from a place of rewriting the stories

00:54:38.429 --> 00:54:42.230
Right. Rewriting the belief systems to support

00:54:42.230 --> 00:54:45.530
us. You know, one of the most important jobs

00:54:45.530 --> 00:54:50.250
that I've ever done is being a mom. And I was

00:54:50.250 --> 00:54:52.510
thinking actually just this morning with my first

00:54:52.510 --> 00:54:54.449
cup of coffee, I was outside, I've got this patio

00:54:54.449 --> 00:54:56.289
spot and I was sitting out there and I was thinking,

00:54:56.849 --> 00:55:00.650
what am I most proud of? What am I most proud

00:55:00.650 --> 00:55:04.250
of in my life? And first and foremost is the

00:55:04.250 --> 00:55:06.190
human being that I've become. because they think

00:55:06.190 --> 00:55:09.070
that that is absolutely essential. If you're

00:55:09.070 --> 00:55:12.389
not the kind of person that you like, then you

00:55:12.389 --> 00:55:15.150
got to do something about that, right? If you

00:55:15.150 --> 00:55:19.010
can ground yourself in, you know what, I'm a

00:55:19.010 --> 00:55:23.150
solid friend. I do the best I can with pretty

00:55:23.150 --> 00:55:26.670
much everything that I do, even if maybe some

00:55:26.670 --> 00:55:31.389
days it's not everything. If it's all I have

00:55:31.389 --> 00:55:33.389
to give, then it's all I have to give. I do the

00:55:33.389 --> 00:55:36.510
very best I can. I show up in the best way that

00:55:36.510 --> 00:55:40.190
I know how. I do my very best not to cause harm

00:55:40.190 --> 00:55:44.789
to anyone. I'm very proud of those things. My

00:55:44.789 --> 00:55:46.989
career, my work, yes, I'm proud of that stuff

00:55:46.989 --> 00:55:51.030
too, but at the same time, it's more about who

00:55:51.030 --> 00:55:53.690
am I in this world and what kind of an impression

00:55:53.690 --> 00:55:58.030
am I going to leave on the lives that I am? Part

00:55:58.030 --> 00:56:03.130
of or that I've touched right my son He is the

00:56:03.130 --> 00:56:07.289
the biggest best job That I have ever done in

00:56:07.289 --> 00:56:09.630
my life now. He's a grown man now. He does still

00:56:09.630 --> 00:56:12.550
live here because Stuff happened pandemic all

00:56:12.550 --> 00:56:19.250
of that other stuff and He's a good guy, you

00:56:19.250 --> 00:56:23.550
know, so There are some people, I think that

00:56:23.550 --> 00:56:25.130
like, if you're, if you're talking about jet

00:56:25.130 --> 00:56:27.090
setting and I don't even know if I'll ever want

00:56:27.090 --> 00:56:29.570
to do that. Like I know that that appeals to

00:56:29.570 --> 00:56:31.429
some people. I'm not sure that that really appeals

00:56:31.429 --> 00:56:35.929
to me. Having said that I'm open. I'm open to

00:56:35.929 --> 00:56:39.030
trying it. Maybe. I mean, that pampered on the

00:56:39.030 --> 00:56:41.750
beach thing sounded pretty good. It's possible.

00:56:42.269 --> 00:56:46.210
So, um, but I think that the, the stuff that

00:56:46.210 --> 00:56:48.670
we don't understand is that the biggest impact

00:56:48.670 --> 00:56:53.250
sometimes that we make is just in doing those

00:56:53.250 --> 00:56:59.650
things that we do. We show up as whatever partner,

00:57:00.010 --> 00:57:02.869
mom, whatever job, because each of these are

00:57:02.869 --> 00:57:05.050
roles, right? And we show up in those roles.

00:57:05.750 --> 00:57:10.159
And if you do your best, if you do the best that

00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:12.539
you can, you know, Ian and I have talked a lot

00:57:12.539 --> 00:57:17.179
because he's now a grown man. And it was so amazing

00:57:17.179 --> 00:57:19.340
because, and it was, I think shortly after the

00:57:19.340 --> 00:57:21.880
marriage ended, he came to me one day and he

00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.019
said, you know, I was just thinking mom, and

00:57:24.019 --> 00:57:30.079
like you were 17 years old, you know, and it

00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.039
was amazing because I think that the healing

00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:36.780
or the whatever that was going on around the

00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:42.619
life change caused both of us to be kind of reflective.

00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.539
And he said, I've been thinking about this a

00:57:45.539 --> 00:57:50.900
lot. You were 17. And he had been carrying around

00:57:50.900 --> 00:57:54.260
anger. I hadn't done enough. I hadn't whatever,

00:57:54.460 --> 00:57:56.159
said the right thing at that moment or done the

00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:57.960
right thing at that moment. By the way, there

00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.760
is no perfect mom. There is no such thing. So

00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.639
just throw that out the window and do the best

00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.599
you can. That's all that's all you've got. Um,

00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.900
but he said to me, you know, you were 17 years

00:58:08.900 --> 00:58:17.920
old and Wow, right? Like look what you did and

00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:20.480
you know, and he knows some of the challenges

00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.280
and and all of that stuff, but like just that

00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.960
one piece, what did you know at 17 years old?

00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:30.420
He says i'm like I'm 20 almost 20 years older

00:58:30.420 --> 00:58:34.119
than you were when you had me And i'm not sure

00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.659
that I could have done any better than you did

00:58:36.659 --> 00:58:41.019
You know, so it's those moments and and if you're

00:58:41.019 --> 00:58:44.739
in a place where somebody offers you love like

00:58:44.739 --> 00:58:49.000
that Offers you understanding compassion forgiveness,

00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:53.539
whatever That thing is I would really really

00:58:53.539 --> 00:58:56.539
really encourage you to hear them and acknowledge

00:58:56.539 --> 00:59:03.679
and Allow it. Allow yourself to receive that,

00:59:04.019 --> 00:59:09.219
right? Because I absolutely believed that I had

00:59:09.219 --> 00:59:14.079
not done some of the things that I would do now,

00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.719
right? If I became a mom now, I would do things

00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.019
completely differently. But you're a completely

00:59:19.019 --> 00:59:21.840
different person. Yeah. And what I'm hearing

00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:26.619
in this is it's safe to be who you are. It's

00:59:26.619 --> 00:59:27.920
safe to be who you are, as long as you're not

00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.880
a huge dick, intentionally running around hurting

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:35.420
people. Just don't be a dick. Most of us are

00:59:35.420 --> 00:59:38.460
not the bad person that we think we are, right?

00:59:38.860 --> 00:59:43.880
And like, in sharing, it's in the day to day,

00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:45.920
like that hilarious phone call. I'm going to

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.139
be talking about that forever. And it was so

00:59:50.139 --> 00:59:55.519
just blended in. But because I showed up, you

00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.019
know, in integrity, in service, proud to be the

00:59:59.019 --> 01:00:03.079
woman that I am at work, at home, etc. I got

01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:07.500
that gift. And it may not lend me a $10 ,000

01:00:07.500 --> 01:00:10.300
client or pay off my debt overnight or any of

01:00:10.300 --> 01:00:13.059
those sensational things, but it went in my heart.

01:00:13.579 --> 01:00:16.539
My heart's glowing brighter. as a result of that

01:00:16.539 --> 01:00:20.420
and then that feeds my soul to keep showing up

01:00:20.420 --> 01:00:24.179
for little beautiful drops of experiences like

01:00:24.179 --> 01:00:28.940
that that then lead to whatever else and whatever

01:00:28.940 --> 01:00:32.139
else and whatever else right and that's the whole

01:00:32.139 --> 01:00:36.909
thing and I love that you say you know most moms

01:00:36.909 --> 01:00:39.429
will say my kids are what i'm most proud of but

01:00:39.429 --> 01:00:46.829
Jackie you make such a powerful point about being

01:00:46.829 --> 01:00:50.469
most proud of yourself and then immediately on

01:00:50.469 --> 01:00:53.409
your heels hopefully of your children too right

01:00:53.409 --> 01:00:56.650
because you are let's bring it all back to the

01:00:56.650 --> 01:01:01.530
beginning you are who you're always with always

01:01:01.530 --> 01:01:06.690
always you invest in you and in your time We

01:01:06.690 --> 01:01:10.630
have talked about so much, such deep spaces.

01:01:11.090 --> 01:01:13.510
We didn't really get a chance to the next chapter

01:01:13.510 --> 01:01:15.449
of where Jackie's at, but I think it's kind of

01:01:15.449 --> 01:01:17.789
evident that now she's living in her best life

01:01:17.789 --> 01:01:20.789
and there's just going to be more of that to

01:01:20.789 --> 01:01:23.699
come. It doesn't mean there's not enough of it

01:01:23.699 --> 01:01:28.420
now. Now it's just parties on. The party's on,

01:01:28.860 --> 01:01:31.519
baby. And let's go. So Jackie and I are going

01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.039
to stay in each other's space. We're going to

01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:36.360
continue to show up for you all and do fun things.

01:01:36.619 --> 01:01:38.860
And I'm going to encourage you to go and follow

01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:41.519
her along on her socials. She's got her website.

01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:45.300
She's on YouTube, Facebook and Instagram. Jackie

01:01:45.300 --> 01:01:49.099
Mott mindset empowerment. And all those links

01:01:49.099 --> 01:01:53.159
will be in the show notes. And she's working

01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.440
on her YouTube channel and whatever else is coming

01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.599
up. So you just get in her space and stay there.

01:01:57.840 --> 01:01:59.980
And let's all go out and get that book. Maybe

01:01:59.980 --> 01:02:03.380
we could do a book club on Jackie's book. I would

01:02:03.380 --> 01:02:07.360
love to do that. That would be fun. Yeah, and

01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.179
do that. So anything that you want to say in

01:02:10.179 --> 01:02:12.699
closing to our listeners, to me, to yourself?

01:02:13.500 --> 01:02:17.119
Well, to you, thank you. Thank you for stalking

01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.380
me into being your friend, because I'm very thrilled

01:02:19.380 --> 01:02:25.619
to be in that circle with you. And just do the

01:02:25.619 --> 01:02:29.119
best you can, right? To the listeners, just whatever

01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.460
it is, do the best you can. And that's enough.

01:02:32.659 --> 01:02:34.860
Whether people want to tell you that it is or

01:02:34.860 --> 01:02:39.280
not, that's their stuff, right? Just show up

01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:41.739
in the best version of you that you can. And

01:02:41.739 --> 01:02:45.269
if you need help, You know, people like Mia and

01:02:45.269 --> 01:02:47.769
myself, and there are lots of people. If we're

01:02:47.769 --> 01:02:49.750
not the right line, well, I would have to guess

01:02:49.750 --> 01:02:51.849
that we're the right voices for you because you're

01:02:51.849 --> 01:02:56.070
here. But if we're not, find the right voices,

01:02:56.650 --> 01:03:00.750
right? Follow me. Check in with me. If you've

01:03:00.750 --> 01:03:03.110
got a challenge, please reach out. Please reach

01:03:03.110 --> 01:03:05.630
out. I'm happy to have a conversation and see

01:03:05.630 --> 01:03:08.190
how we can, and believe it or not, some of this

01:03:08.190 --> 01:03:12.139
stuff is really very quick. Yeah, yeah. Beautiful.

01:03:12.300 --> 01:03:13.940
Awesome. Well, thanks so much, Jackie. Have the

01:03:13.940 --> 01:03:16.260
best day ever. Thank you, you too.