WEBVTT 00:00:02.310 --> 00:00:06.889 Hi gorgeous beauties, welcome to another episode 00:00:06.889 --> 00:00:10.509 of the Startup Stories podcast. You, my dear, 00:00:10.710 --> 00:00:15.570 are one of many powerful everyday women of the 00:00:15.570 --> 00:00:19.510 world, so I hope that you really appreciate the 00:00:19.510 --> 00:00:24.250 value and significance of who you are. If you 00:00:24.250 --> 00:00:26.510 think you're just like a nobody, well I'm just 00:00:26.510 --> 00:00:34.060 a nobody, but yet I'm so... um necessary to like 00:00:34.060 --> 00:00:37.399 the cogs in the wheels in the systems so just 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:39.820 take a minute to really appreciate yourself maybe 00:00:39.820 --> 00:00:42.960 give yourself a hug and just be like yes woman 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.899 yes you matter you're valuable you're worthy 00:00:46.899 --> 00:00:51.619 on top of and surrounding all of that and i am 00:00:51.619 --> 00:00:55.179 just ever so honored and pleased to serve you 00:00:55.179 --> 00:00:57.479 and bring you incredible guests and we're gonna 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:02.090 party hard with sasha Elizavsky today. Sasha 00:01:02.090 --> 00:01:05.670 and I are like new online friends, but our hearts 00:01:05.670 --> 00:01:09.090 and souls go way, way back. And we're going to 00:01:09.090 --> 00:01:12.269 have such a fun party conversation talking about 00:01:12.269 --> 00:01:15.890 her journey and lessons and life applications 00:01:15.890 --> 00:01:22.159 at present. And We're going to try and wrap it. 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:23.640 I'm saying this to Sasha. We're going to try 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:25.659 and wrap it around the top of the hour, love, 00:01:25.739 --> 00:01:29.439 because I've got to wake up my daughter. You've 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:33.480 got to go and be a badass. And I say that lovingly 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.819 and jokingly, listeners, because Sasha and I 00:01:35.819 --> 00:01:37.739 did a workshop together and we were just like, 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.760 we couldn't stop and we shouldn't have to. So 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.560 watch out if we decide to do some sort of VIP 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:49.560 thing. Exactly. Right? Exactly. But let me just 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.459 do my proper introductions and welcome Sasha 00:01:53.459 --> 00:01:56.659 to the show. She's beautiful and ready to serve 00:01:56.659 --> 00:01:59.260 and share. So you know the drill, you guys. It's 00:01:59.260 --> 00:02:01.099 the Startup Stories podcast where the ambitious 00:02:01.099 --> 00:02:04.420 everyday woman is heard, held, and served in 00:02:04.420 --> 00:02:07.319 life and business. Relatable stories to keep 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:09.680 you sane, grounded and growing as you expand 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.580 yourself and deliver your purpose to the world. 00:02:12.900 --> 00:02:15.080 And if you're watching on video, I'm kind of 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.439 excited that I have this new background. Fun 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:20.659 anecdotal story. My mom said my background was 00:02:20.659 --> 00:02:24.759 too distracting and I was like, resist. And then, 00:02:24.780 --> 00:02:27.539 hey, why don't we try something else? So I'm 00:02:27.539 --> 00:02:29.139 trying out this background. I kind of love it. 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.099 It looks good. And it's the same wallpaper that 00:02:31.099 --> 00:02:34.169 I actually have. So enough about all of that 00:02:34.169 --> 00:02:39.050 nonsense. Sasha will tell us what the acronyms 00:02:39.050 --> 00:02:41.930 mean, but she's a human resources professional. 00:02:42.250 --> 00:02:45.830 And she is now, I love this, this dropped to 00:02:45.830 --> 00:02:49.270 me this morning, Sasha, the entrepreneur for 00:02:49.270 --> 00:02:53.669 the employee. Yes. Entrepreneur for the woman 00:02:53.669 --> 00:02:57.710 employee. Right. For female employees in corporate 00:02:57.710 --> 00:03:04.590 looking to. level up like we say we want the 00:03:04.590 --> 00:03:07.770 things we think we're ready and then when they 00:03:07.770 --> 00:03:12.050 come to us on a platter of silver or slightly 00:03:12.050 --> 00:03:16.189 tarnished or gold or whatever we're like I'm 00:03:16.189 --> 00:03:21.490 not sure right so that's why life coaches that's 00:03:21.490 --> 00:03:24.129 why career professionals like Sasha that's why 00:03:24.129 --> 00:03:28.080 too hold you accountable to yourself, to your 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:32.960 dreams and to the resistance, hold you through 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.259 the resistance of actually becoming that next 00:03:36.259 --> 00:03:38.520 version of yourself, that next transformation. 00:03:38.580 --> 00:03:43.340 So Sasha has got this beautiful and steadfast 00:03:43.340 --> 00:03:46.539 career in human resources, HR and recruiting, 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:50.240 a master's in HR development certification as 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.370 an intuitive life coach. And like, I'm just covered 00:03:53.370 --> 00:03:55.409 in goosebumps already because I know and love 00:03:55.409 --> 00:03:58.469 Sasha's heart. But you picture these two different 00:03:58.469 --> 00:04:02.629 systems coming together in a holistic approach, 00:04:03.009 --> 00:04:09.030 right? To really hold you and to prepare all 00:04:09.030 --> 00:04:13.719 of you, mind, body, spirit. for the raise for 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:18.759 like the 15 to 50k salary jumps, career moves, 00:04:19.019 --> 00:04:22.860 but also capacity of self to step into that. 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:27.199 So let's bring her on here because there's just 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.740 so much to dive into. And I don't want to be 00:04:29.740 --> 00:04:31.620 the only one talking. So welcome, my darling. 00:04:32.840 --> 00:04:35.160 Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:37.300 for having me. That was a beautiful introduction. 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:41.800 And, you know, one of the things that I do want, 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:43.920 how I want to distinguish myself is, you know, 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:47.120 I'm not just like a career coach, like not just 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:50.220 going to help you, you know, do your resume or 00:04:50.220 --> 00:04:53.459 get that raise. Like, you know, there's a lot 00:04:53.459 --> 00:04:55.240 that comes with that. And, you know, when they 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.420 say when you teach a man a fish, right. So if 00:04:58.420 --> 00:05:01.920 I teach you how to. see the power in yourself 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:04.379 and I teach you how to set boundaries and I teach 00:05:04.379 --> 00:05:13.019 you how to um like in a very gutsy confident 00:05:13.019 --> 00:05:16.699 and you know we talked about the word manipulative 00:05:16.699 --> 00:05:20.800 but like in a very like cunning fox kind of way 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.139 if I can teach you how to do that uh while growing 00:05:24.139 --> 00:05:29.550 in corporate um you won't need someone to do 00:05:29.550 --> 00:05:31.790 your resume to get put your resume together you 00:05:31.790 --> 00:05:33.829 won't need someone because all of that comes 00:05:33.829 --> 00:05:36.889 with it right yeah um it really really all starts 00:05:36.889 --> 00:05:39.209 with confidence and how you um sell yourself 00:05:39.209 --> 00:05:42.589 um and how you make it like how you allow yourself 00:05:42.589 --> 00:05:44.449 to grow in corporate right because corporate 00:05:44.449 --> 00:05:47.149 is a soul -sucking place so but anyway thank 00:05:47.149 --> 00:05:50.670 you for having me not anyway like it's great 00:05:50.670 --> 00:05:57.189 because when we're seeking this growth It applies 00:05:57.189 --> 00:06:01.550 unilaterally to everything in life. So it's not 00:06:01.550 --> 00:06:05.529 like if you don't have a job and I, again, I'm 00:06:05.529 --> 00:06:09.490 going to really normalize and hold safety around 00:06:09.490 --> 00:06:13.629 being an entrepreneur and an employee. But when 00:06:13.629 --> 00:06:17.089 you're seeking growth, all of what you just talked 00:06:17.089 --> 00:06:21.790 about, Sasha, is very transferable because we 00:06:21.790 --> 00:06:27.139 are having to become. stronger increase our mental 00:06:27.139 --> 00:06:31.500 fitness our spiritual fitness to hold that space 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:35.459 and that growth of self and what you just described 00:06:35.459 --> 00:06:38.600 is it transcends anything that could be captured 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:42.220 on paper because it's your essence right and 00:06:42.220 --> 00:06:45.899 so it's like how did Mel Robbins become Mel Robbins 00:06:45.899 --> 00:06:49.939 part and parcel as a natural outcome of who she 00:06:49.939 --> 00:06:55.459 is matched with a willingness to take on more 00:06:55.459 --> 00:07:02.540 responsibility to take on more um what like what's 00:07:02.540 --> 00:07:04.720 another way of describing that like because it's 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:09.120 not all just responsibility but like um power 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:13.920 um yeah and and let me just say let me let me 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:19.399 just go back to because yeah the the the transition 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:24.600 between employee and entrepreneur, right? Like, 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.160 you know, I know most of your audience is, you 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.639 know, entrepreneurs and my audience is employees, 00:07:29.899 --> 00:07:31.899 but let me tell you something. I can tell you 00:07:31.899 --> 00:07:33.339 right now that the woman that had the hardest 00:07:33.339 --> 00:07:35.220 time negotiating their salaries in corporate 00:07:35.220 --> 00:07:39.120 will probably have the toughest time with their 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:40.980 money mindset when they become entrepreneurs, 00:07:41.180 --> 00:07:43.420 because these are the ones that you have to convince 00:07:43.420 --> 00:07:45.480 them. You are worth that much. You know that, 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.139 right? You can charge, you can ask for that. 00:07:48.590 --> 00:07:51.550 Right. Don't let anyone tell you what you're 00:07:51.550 --> 00:07:53.949 worth. You can sit there and say, this is what 00:07:53.949 --> 00:07:55.370 I like. The worst thing that they can say is 00:07:55.370 --> 00:07:57.509 no. And then they move on and whatever. But the 00:07:57.509 --> 00:08:00.370 people that have the hardest time, I know because 00:08:00.370 --> 00:08:03.290 I was that person that had the hardest time with 00:08:03.290 --> 00:08:05.589 negotiating their salaries tend to be the people 00:08:05.589 --> 00:08:08.540 that have a hard time. you know, setting their 00:08:08.540 --> 00:08:11.040 prices, like holding to their prices. They're 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:12.579 the ones that like struggle with, like, should 00:08:12.579 --> 00:08:14.660 I give a discount? Should I, they're the ones 00:08:14.660 --> 00:08:16.180 that I struggle with that. So yeah, there is, 00:08:16.180 --> 00:08:18.339 there's a lot of transferable, a lot of like 00:08:18.339 --> 00:08:22.959 commonalities. Even though we, you know, we serve 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:28.560 different, different audiences, the, the, the 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.600 struggles can be very much the same. Yeah. Yeah. 00:08:31.779 --> 00:08:34.779 Yeah. You know, because we're looking to be, 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:39.840 to achieve our potential. To see how far we can 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.399 take ourselves at the end of the day, right? 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.899 And that comes from within. It doesn't come from 00:08:45.899 --> 00:08:48.340 an external circumstance. And then it comes again 00:08:48.340 --> 00:08:51.779 with that loving the word willingness to hold 00:08:51.779 --> 00:08:54.379 everything that comes with it. Because it is 00:08:54.379 --> 00:08:58.399 more in the sense of more responsibility, more 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:04.399 money, more... accountability commitment like 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:07.519 all these things right it's it's my favorite 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:11.279 analogy lifting heavier sets of weights and and 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.440 powering through that and then acclimatizing 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:19.200 building that resilience to hold through it because 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.620 it's not going to be without roller coasters 00:09:21.620 --> 00:09:25.179 or other things happening. Sometimes things culminate 00:09:25.179 --> 00:09:28.240 all at the same time, like the awesome job offer, 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.759 maybe an issue with a child, maybe a new relationship, 00:09:31.899 --> 00:09:34.799 maybe a transition in a relationship or, you 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:38.100 know, like things will, the storm, and then you 00:09:38.100 --> 00:09:41.019 come through the other side into a new space. 00:09:41.179 --> 00:09:43.899 So we've already kind of sneak peeked into some 00:09:43.899 --> 00:09:47.370 of your story. that you worked in corporate and 00:09:47.370 --> 00:09:49.629 now that you're on the other side as an entrepreneur. 00:09:49.789 --> 00:09:52.649 So just tell us a little bit more about you and 00:09:52.649 --> 00:09:55.149 your story, you know, your journey to get here 00:09:55.149 --> 00:09:59.049 and what that was like, what you grew through 00:09:59.049 --> 00:10:04.070 to land in this beautiful new place. Yeah, so 00:10:04.070 --> 00:10:07.029 I decided to be an entrepreneur at a very interesting 00:10:07.029 --> 00:10:11.029 time. It was around the time that I decided that 00:10:11.029 --> 00:10:16.059 I wanted to be divorced. and yeah exactly it 00:10:16.059 --> 00:10:18.320 was around the time that I decided to be divorced 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:21.100 but also it was around the time that I realized 00:10:21.100 --> 00:10:24.559 I was starting to get stronger as a person I 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:27.480 I transparently I was a broken person with a 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:30.980 lot of trauma um when I met my husband and so 00:10:30.980 --> 00:10:36.360 like as time went on I started to you know um 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:40.220 realize that you know I had to take accountability 00:10:40.220 --> 00:10:44.360 for a lot of the things that I was bringing into 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.860 my life so for example um I had I was one of 00:10:47.860 --> 00:10:49.980 those that had like you know boyfriend after 00:10:49.980 --> 00:10:52.159 boyfriend one was worse than the last right and 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.580 so by the time I got to my husband he was very 00:10:54.580 --> 00:10:57.200 different in a lot of ways but similar and others 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:01.700 and I you know um my mom she was a narcissistic 00:11:01.700 --> 00:11:04.120 person so like I was very comfortable with certain 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:09.539 things and so um by the time I like I got to 00:11:09.539 --> 00:11:12.019 this point, I had gone through some therapy and 00:11:12.019 --> 00:11:15.139 I realized that I had to fix myself in order 00:11:15.139 --> 00:11:17.200 to stop bringing these types of characters into 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.940 my life. And also to stop accepting mediocrity 00:11:20.940 --> 00:11:23.580 and corporate as well. Because I realized that 00:11:23.580 --> 00:11:25.240 I was going for the things that I felt the most 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:27.730 comfortable with because. I felt like if I went 00:11:27.730 --> 00:11:30.149 for the tougher jobs, the more responsibilities 00:11:30.149 --> 00:11:32.470 or the more like they're not going to pick me. 00:11:32.490 --> 00:11:34.590 Why would they pick me? You know, like I'm not 00:11:34.590 --> 00:11:36.269 I'm not at that level yet. They're looking for 00:11:36.269 --> 00:11:38.529 something bigger and better. And I wasn't that 00:11:38.529 --> 00:11:41.610 I was self -rejecting from all the greatness. 00:11:41.649 --> 00:11:44.509 And so I was settling for mediocrity. Let's just 00:11:44.509 --> 00:11:47.549 put it this way. And so when I decided to be 00:11:47.549 --> 00:11:50.669 to start my business, it was at that point where 00:11:50.669 --> 00:11:52.970 like I started shifting in my mindset where I'm 00:11:52.970 --> 00:11:56.419 like, wait a minute. you know if corporate doesn't 00:11:56.419 --> 00:11:58.159 you know one of the things that I said to myself 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:00.799 is like I never want to get like I had just gotten 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.200 laid off because of COVID too so I said to myself 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.019 I never want to put myself in a position again 00:12:05.019 --> 00:12:07.200 where corporate can just like lay me off and 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.139 I have nothing to myself because I was already 00:12:09.139 --> 00:12:12.700 planning on leaving my marriage so I said I need 00:12:12.700 --> 00:12:16.559 to build um start building a portfolio of income 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:19.940 like I need to start like building money some 00:12:19.940 --> 00:12:22.740 way somehow so that if one drops I'm still making 00:12:22.740 --> 00:12:25.700 money somewhere else and and also it was my way 00:12:25.700 --> 00:12:29.240 of saying to my ex -husband that like you know 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:34.080 if I can make it you know um like I could I you 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:36.220 know he would he would say things like you'll 00:12:36.220 --> 00:12:38.440 never make it yeah you need me you're nothing 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.039 without me whatever exactly so he would say things 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.450 like that and you know, I, it was like my way 00:12:44.450 --> 00:12:46.649 of saying, I'm going to conquer it. I'm going 00:12:46.649 --> 00:12:50.149 to do this. Right. I'm going to like, there's 00:12:50.149 --> 00:12:52.669 no one that's and, and transparently the first 00:12:52.669 --> 00:12:55.590 time I started my business, the first time the 00:12:55.590 --> 00:12:58.450 end of 2023. And at that time I was still working 00:12:58.450 --> 00:13:01.470 on my confidence. So like the, the, the intention 00:13:01.470 --> 00:13:04.289 was there, but I still had some things to work 00:13:04.289 --> 00:13:09.570 through. And then I got laid off again from my 00:13:09.570 --> 00:13:13.070 corporate job in 2024. um, last year, March. 00:13:13.149 --> 00:13:14.590 And that's when I realized I was like, wait a 00:13:14.590 --> 00:13:17.529 minute. I said, I wanted to start my business 00:13:17.529 --> 00:13:21.990 so that I can, you know, um, you know, not put 00:13:21.990 --> 00:13:24.289 myself in a situation where I have nothing and 00:13:24.289 --> 00:13:27.370 it happened. So I took the summer off to, to, 00:13:27.429 --> 00:13:29.309 to be with my kids because my daughter also had 00:13:29.309 --> 00:13:32.070 some anxiety issues. And, um, you know, so I 00:13:32.070 --> 00:13:34.049 said, let me be present for my kids. But as I 00:13:34.049 --> 00:13:37.370 was being present for my kids, I was like, in 00:13:37.370 --> 00:13:39.860 my mind, I was like, you know, building myself 00:13:39.860 --> 00:13:41.740 up and building myself up and building myself 00:13:41.740 --> 00:13:47.440 up. And this time around, um, as I was, you know, 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:49.120 as I'm starting my business again, this year, 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:53.019 I started again, like Q4 of last year. Um, it's 00:13:53.019 --> 00:13:56.179 a completely different field. Like I, it's almost 00:13:56.179 --> 00:13:57.980 like I'm looking back at the person that I was 00:13:57.980 --> 00:14:01.000 and I'm like, who is that person? Yeah. And I 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:04.620 like that. Right. Um, you know, it was just a 00:14:04.620 --> 00:14:09.059 series of like, okay, I, you know, I need to 00:14:09.059 --> 00:14:12.080 make it. There's no other option, right? Like 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:15.799 I need to, now I'm a single mother. And transparently 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.580 when I was getting a divorce, I, my divorce was 00:14:18.580 --> 00:14:22.980 finalized in 2021. As a corporate professional, 00:14:23.220 --> 00:14:27.940 I ended up getting my first job. So like I was, 00:14:27.940 --> 00:14:30.259 I was unemployed when I was going through my 00:14:30.259 --> 00:14:34.360 divorce because of COVID. I was 2020. I finalized 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:38.129 my divorce in 2021. Um, but in my divorce is 00:14:38.129 --> 00:14:42.129 finalized April, 2021 by like May, I ended up 00:14:42.129 --> 00:14:44.750 getting my first job, like in corporate after 00:14:44.750 --> 00:14:48.750 my ex -husband with, I mean, I negotiated, you 00:14:48.750 --> 00:14:50.730 know, a huge salary. It was something like 15 00:14:50.730 --> 00:14:52.509 or 20 K or something like that, that I negotiated, 00:14:52.789 --> 00:14:57.850 but it was because I said to myself, like there, 00:14:58.009 --> 00:15:01.320 you know, the worst they can do is say no. Um, 00:15:01.740 --> 00:15:03.840 I just psyched myself up. It was like a, like, 00:15:03.940 --> 00:15:05.480 I just blurted out the number. Like I was just 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:07.100 saying to myself, like, all they're going to 00:15:07.100 --> 00:15:09.139 do is say, no, it's not, you know, the word no 00:15:09.139 --> 00:15:12.039 is not a, a bullet is a two letter word. It's 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.080 a, it's nothing. Right. Like I just kept saying 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:17.659 to myself, no, is not a bullet. No, is a two 00:15:17.659 --> 00:15:20.100 letter word. It doesn't define me. If, if they 00:15:20.100 --> 00:15:22.179 don't feel like I'm worth it, then fine. I choose 00:15:22.179 --> 00:15:25.019 to either stay or go, but you know, it doesn't 00:15:25.019 --> 00:15:28.129 define me their rejection. Right. So. I just 00:15:28.129 --> 00:15:30.169 said, I want this much. And they were like, okay. 00:15:30.690 --> 00:15:33.990 And I said, that's it. That's it. It's not always 00:15:33.990 --> 00:15:36.490 going to be like that. Right. Because it's awesome 00:15:36.490 --> 00:15:39.389 when it is. Yeah. Oh, awesome. When it is. And 00:15:39.389 --> 00:15:41.889 what's, you know, a few things to pull out of 00:15:41.889 --> 00:15:46.970 this is trying something. And then you didn't 00:15:46.970 --> 00:15:49.429 give up. Like it stayed in your heart and you 00:15:49.429 --> 00:15:53.690 came back to it. And again, the deep encouragement 00:15:53.690 --> 00:15:57.149 to all the people listening that what's in your 00:15:57.149 --> 00:16:01.250 heart is there for a reason. And it may come 00:16:01.250 --> 00:16:05.070 in a season. Now we're in a Dr. Seuss rhyme. 00:16:05.909 --> 00:16:11.220 Yeah, exactly. Right. But stay with it. don't 00:16:11.220 --> 00:16:14.220 give up on your dreams because the timing isn't 00:16:14.220 --> 00:16:18.120 always up to you, but being prepared when timing 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.080 comes along is. And so I'm getting goosebumps 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.399 again. People talk about manifestation or God's 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.529 will. There's, there's. supernatural forces at 00:16:30.529 --> 00:16:34.710 work but you're not a leaf in a windstorm you 00:16:34.710 --> 00:16:39.110 are responsible for preparing yourself and taking 00:16:39.110 --> 00:16:44.309 actions to align to those great works and this 00:16:44.309 --> 00:16:47.529 is what you've laid out here is that the pull 00:16:47.529 --> 00:16:51.590 in your heart was I'm ready to heal from deeper 00:16:51.590 --> 00:16:56.129 I'm starting that in my home with this relationship 00:16:56.129 --> 00:17:00.389 which obviously ties into multiple other relationships 00:17:00.389 --> 00:17:04.529 and versions of Sasha that existed always. And 00:17:04.529 --> 00:17:08.049 I've had a moment like that. I left a bad relationship 00:17:08.049 --> 00:17:11.130 as I neared 30. I met him at the end of high 00:17:11.130 --> 00:17:16.349 school until like 28, 29. And I remember that 00:17:16.349 --> 00:17:21.630 moment of being like, more, like done. And it 00:17:21.630 --> 00:17:24.190 was just... it was just like douchey, right? 00:17:24.289 --> 00:17:27.470 It was low level, like just, and I was tired 00:17:27.470 --> 00:17:31.269 of living in that because it held me down and 00:17:31.269 --> 00:17:34.609 it held me back. Right. And when you're meant 00:17:34.609 --> 00:17:38.529 for more, you can only tolerate so much before 00:17:38.529 --> 00:17:43.809 the will strengthens and the willingness we're 00:17:43.809 --> 00:17:46.210 talking about just a few minutes ago to just 00:17:46.210 --> 00:17:50.150 see. And that's like you're saying in, in propositioning. 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:54.299 the salary, you're just seeing, you're just experimenting 00:17:54.299 --> 00:17:56.579 and throwing stuff out there. And it's very, 00:17:56.619 --> 00:17:59.960 very powerful to say that no is not a bullet, 00:18:00.019 --> 00:18:03.099 especially if you're just starting out either 00:18:03.099 --> 00:18:05.339 seeking a career change, because Sasha, obviously, 00:18:05.339 --> 00:18:07.960 you can share this with your audience, or, you 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.380 know, seeking more of something in your life. 00:18:11.779 --> 00:18:17.230 No happens. We say no to things. We say no to 00:18:17.230 --> 00:18:20.869 things, to a lot of things, to a lot of people, 00:18:20.990 --> 00:18:24.730 men, women, other whatever is that have asked 00:18:24.730 --> 00:18:28.609 you out, you know, food menu items, clothing, 00:18:28.990 --> 00:18:37.089 hotels, like everything. So that is such a phenomenal 00:18:37.089 --> 00:18:41.490 foundation to move from where you're willing 00:18:41.490 --> 00:18:44.930 to get a no and you know that no don't mean. 00:18:45.939 --> 00:18:50.160 Nothing. Exactly. And, you know, and that's what 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:52.440 it's important with auto rejection, too, because 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:54.500 like I said, like, you know, the second time 00:18:54.500 --> 00:18:56.480 I ended up doing it, like fast forward a little 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.440 bit, I ended up one of my colleagues referred 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:02.259 me to another job while I was in this job. I 00:19:02.259 --> 00:19:05.079 was I became a recruiter. Then she referred me 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:07.960 to a project manager with a lot more on the base. 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:10.420 But I knew as a project manager that I can ask 00:19:10.420 --> 00:19:12.759 for a little bit more. And so I did. I went I 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.059 think I asked for something like 15 or. another 00:19:15.059 --> 00:19:18.240 15 or 20 K, but, uh, and I ended up like, it 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.900 wasn't the same, right. It wasn't like, oh, okay. 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:22.619 It was more of a negotiation. I negotiated. It 00:19:22.619 --> 00:19:24.779 was, it took me like two or three times for us 00:19:24.779 --> 00:19:27.420 to get the number. Right. Um, but the point is 00:19:27.420 --> 00:19:30.869 that I was like, not auto rejecting myself. I 00:19:30.869 --> 00:19:32.690 wasn't saying, well, they're going to say, no, 00:19:32.890 --> 00:19:35.150 they're going to, you know, what if they, because 00:19:35.150 --> 00:19:37.170 when I was a recruiter, that's when I really 00:19:37.170 --> 00:19:39.430 realized that coaching is what I wanted to do, 00:19:39.470 --> 00:19:42.369 because I spoke to so many women, especially 00:19:42.369 --> 00:19:45.910 my minority women who were so socially conditioned 00:19:45.910 --> 00:19:49.029 to being the good girl, the good girl that just 00:19:49.029 --> 00:19:51.910 accepts, like, you know, just, I would have to 00:19:51.910 --> 00:19:53.349 coach them and say, I would take my recruiter 00:19:53.349 --> 00:19:55.410 hat off because obviously I worked for the company. 00:19:55.470 --> 00:19:58.069 So I, you know, but I would take my recruiter 00:19:58.069 --> 00:20:01.589 hat off and say, listen, you know, I, I need 00:20:01.589 --> 00:20:03.410 you to do a little bit more research on this 00:20:03.410 --> 00:20:06.210 role. Right. And I also need to need you to look 00:20:06.210 --> 00:20:11.509 at like, you know, because I can tell what a 00:20:11.509 --> 00:20:13.910 woman felt about herself when she opened her 00:20:13.910 --> 00:20:15.589 mouth and said, well, I'm looking for this much. 00:20:15.630 --> 00:20:17.329 And I can like with her body line, which she 00:20:17.329 --> 00:20:20.109 would say, I'm thinking like she would do a whole 00:20:20.109 --> 00:20:22.609 lot of that and dancing around the topic. And 00:20:22.609 --> 00:20:24.970 I'm like, girl, just spit it out. You know, and 00:20:24.970 --> 00:20:27.150 I made them comfortable enough to tell me. And, 00:20:27.150 --> 00:20:28.630 you know, there were many times where I took 00:20:28.630 --> 00:20:31.130 my my recruiter hat off and I would coach them 00:20:31.130 --> 00:20:33.730 on like, you know, this is how you want to present 00:20:33.730 --> 00:20:36.250 this. Right. The confidence, the confidence of 00:20:36.250 --> 00:20:41.069 owning the request. Exactly. Like I've been seeing 00:20:41.069 --> 00:20:43.970 these. I just saw a video about a woman interviewing 00:20:43.970 --> 00:20:50.380 a man using questions that women get asked. And 00:20:50.380 --> 00:20:52.460 the men were highly uncomfortable in what you 00:20:52.460 --> 00:20:55.660 just described there. And everybody is a little 00:20:55.660 --> 00:20:57.660 bit different, so we don't want to overgeneralize, 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:01.279 et cetera, the disclaimer. But imagine a man 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:04.859 being wishy -washy and like that, right? And 00:21:04.859 --> 00:21:07.700 what's the difference? It's that, well, women 00:21:07.700 --> 00:21:12.519 are awesome, awesomer. Exactly. And we don't 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:17.099 like to receive as much as we love to give, right? 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:23.480 Exactly. But how do you get to more than if you're 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.240 self -limiting, like you're saying, right? So 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:32.079 what started, like, it's such a tangible. that 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:33.920 illumination, if you will, of like the spark 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.380 of the fire growing, leaving the husband, pursuing 00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:40.700 the career, and now, you know, stepping into 00:21:40.700 --> 00:21:43.720 this next version and the Sasha that you are 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:47.099 today and continuing. Now you're kind of like 00:21:47.099 --> 00:21:49.660 in a momentum role, right? It's like, oh, baby, 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:53.859 I ain't stopping, right? Yeah. So another thing 00:21:53.859 --> 00:21:56.299 that, another thing that motivated me was like 00:21:56.299 --> 00:21:58.880 I said, my kids, because like I said, corporate 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:02.000 America is not meant for mothers and it's certainly 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.000 not is, is not meant for single mothers. Right. 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.619 So as a single mother, I have been working from 00:22:07.619 --> 00:22:10.819 home since 2016, since my daughter was born. 00:22:12.140 --> 00:22:14.880 But I, we're in a market now where everybody's 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:16.700 like return to work, return to work, return to 00:22:16.700 --> 00:22:18.759 work. And so when I got laid off last year, I 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:21.069 vowed to myself, I was like, you know, first 00:22:21.069 --> 00:22:24.390 of all, the market has been crappy. So even if 00:22:24.390 --> 00:22:27.769 I, you know, even if I saw roles that were hybrid, 00:22:27.849 --> 00:22:30.109 they wouldn't even call me back or in -person 00:22:30.109 --> 00:22:32.289 roles. But, you know, I said to myself, like, 00:22:32.369 --> 00:22:35.869 what do I want? Right. Because I don't want to 00:22:35.869 --> 00:22:38.609 be chosen just to be just because that's a that's 00:22:38.609 --> 00:22:41.960 a thing that women. go through in their job search 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:43.900 right like when they're looking for jobs they're 00:22:43.900 --> 00:22:48.339 ready for a job and the the delight of being 00:22:48.339 --> 00:22:51.359 chosen by a company overpowers or the fact like 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.319 oh my god they like me that they're not really 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.220 like almost like when you're dating you're not 00:22:56.220 --> 00:22:58.019 really seeing the red flags because you're like 00:22:58.019 --> 00:22:59.799 oh my god he likes me he likes me he likes me 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:01.599 so you're just excited about that you're not 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:04.559 seeing the red flags but a lot of times like 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.799 when we're in these toxic work environments we 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.579 could have seen that if we just asked the right 00:23:08.579 --> 00:23:11.059 questions if we could read between the lines, 00:23:11.099 --> 00:23:14.279 if we were a little bit hyper, if we did the 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.799 due diligence of asking them like, okay, you 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:22.079 know, what is, you know, what are the, like, 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.779 how can I say? What was the one question that 00:23:25.779 --> 00:23:29.660 I asked that I told one of my, you know, what 00:23:29.660 --> 00:23:32.839 are the, what is the culture like for women, 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.000 you know, parents or something? I don't recommend 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:38.829 people. talking too much of their personal business 00:23:38.829 --> 00:23:40.230 because we're looking at biases, right? From 00:23:40.230 --> 00:23:43.910 an HR standpoint. But yeah, so I realized, I 00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:48.650 said to myself that I sat down and I wrote down 00:23:48.650 --> 00:23:50.750 my non -negotiables just like I did for dating. 00:23:51.069 --> 00:23:53.630 My non -negotiables of like, this is what I need 00:23:53.630 --> 00:23:55.769 a work environment to be. This is what the company 00:23:55.769 --> 00:23:58.450 needs to be for me. This is what my terms needs 00:23:58.450 --> 00:24:00.690 to be. This is what my salary needs to be. And 00:24:00.690 --> 00:24:02.910 once you have down your non -negotiables, it's 00:24:02.910 --> 00:24:07.140 hard for a job. to make you sway. Once you're 00:24:07.140 --> 00:24:09.539 very, very clear on this is what I need to be 00:24:09.539 --> 00:24:11.880 happy because I wasn't happy when I took these 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.559 jobs that didn't have these things, right? So 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.940 one of the things for me was I needed to work 00:24:18.940 --> 00:24:23.900 from home and I also needed a leader that wasn't 00:24:23.900 --> 00:24:27.240 micromanaging. Like if my, thank God, my last 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:31.460 boss was, she was the one that made this like 00:24:31.460 --> 00:24:34.859 possible for me in my mind that. You know, she 00:24:34.859 --> 00:24:37.000 never checked in on me. She just said, is the 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.720 work done? That's it. I would deliver whatever, 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:42.539 you know, I would deliver things on time. But 00:24:42.539 --> 00:24:45.140 she was never like, oh, you can't log off at 00:24:45.140 --> 00:24:47.220 two o 'clock to pick up your kids and take them 00:24:47.220 --> 00:24:49.240 to Taekwondo. She's like, you're a salaried employee. 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.940 Just manage your time. Like, as long as you get 00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:54.079 things done, I don't care what time you log off. 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.220 So I would log off when I had my kids because 00:24:56.220 --> 00:24:58.500 I have 50 -50 custody. I will log off on my days, 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:01.960 you know, at, you know, two o 'clock. go pick 00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:04.099 up my daughter, go pick up my son, take them 00:25:04.099 --> 00:25:06.539 to their activities. And then later on when they 00:25:06.539 --> 00:25:08.380 were in bedtime, I would log in and do a little 00:25:08.380 --> 00:25:11.559 bit more work. Right. So, so I need that too. 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:13.740 Cause if a company is telling me I need to stay 00:25:13.740 --> 00:25:15.579 on the computer from nine to five, that's also 00:25:15.579 --> 00:25:17.319 not going to jive well with me. Right. So now 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:20.640 I ask questions about that. Right. Well, when 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:22.700 I was considering going back to corporate, but 00:25:22.700 --> 00:25:26.259 this is what I tell women all the time. Definitely 00:25:26.259 --> 00:25:28.500 have your list of non -negotiables for everything, 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.000 for your business, like what you, what you want 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:34.119 to feel like, the types of clients you want and 00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:37.240 what do you want? Like, as long as you have your 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:39.599 list of non -negotiables, it's going to be, and 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.660 you stay, you stay stuck with them and you say, 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.480 this is what I actually need to be happy. It's 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.279 going to be harder for you to sway from that 00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:48.779 and for you to accept their minimum. Right. So 00:25:48.779 --> 00:25:50.900 to answer your question, like what, what else, 00:25:50.940 --> 00:25:54.759 like, I guess motivated me is, is my kids. You 00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:58.220 know, my kids really, really cemented into me 00:25:58.220 --> 00:26:00.960 that I need to be present and that I don't want 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:02.640 to be in a corporate environment where they're 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:04.140 like, oh, you have to be on the computer from 00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:05.500 nine to five. It's not going to work for me. 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.920 Like my kids have activities. And no, I'm not 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:10.460 going to pay someone to drive my kids to their 00:26:10.460 --> 00:26:12.200 activities. I want to be there. I want to cheer 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.279 my kids on. Yeah. You know, being a mom, this 00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:20.519 is like, it's the most important. cliche but 00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.700 it's like it's the most important job your kids 00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:25.779 are under 10 my kid is under 10 like you want 00:26:25.779 --> 00:26:28.900 to be there with them now is the time to be there 00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:34.460 with them right and until they leave us I know 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:44.000 it's it also shows them a beautiful family lifestyle 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:48.319 right and that they can count on you and very 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.039 empowering that you can design your life the 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:56.960 way that you want it to flow right and I love 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:01.779 the juxtapositions of finding this in corporate 00:27:01.779 --> 00:27:05.220 because we often hear that on the flash sale 00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:08.150 of the entrepreneurial world And again, you guys, 00:27:08.170 --> 00:27:10.490 I work a full -time job, got kids all over the 00:27:10.490 --> 00:27:14.430 place and running this online business, but doing 00:27:14.430 --> 00:27:20.410 it in my schedule, in my... my decisions for 00:27:20.410 --> 00:27:23.970 me. And that is where the real power is. And 00:27:23.970 --> 00:27:28.349 that is where you are truly in control in managing 00:27:28.349 --> 00:27:31.950 yourself. So I love that you're encouraging women 00:27:31.950 --> 00:27:35.029 in the corporate workforce to do that, because 00:27:35.029 --> 00:27:37.890 it is a difficult system. And I would not be 00:27:37.890 --> 00:27:40.549 surviving life right now, if not for the employer 00:27:40.549 --> 00:27:44.109 that I have, which is largely women led phenomenal 00:27:44.109 --> 00:27:48.880 women. phenomenal women a lot of us have um enough 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.619 of us have kids in the same age range like single 00:27:51.619 --> 00:27:54.259 digit still you know when doing the school runs 00:27:54.259 --> 00:27:58.940 and stuff and that same um Trust in competence. 00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:02.259 So trust in competence. We want our employer 00:28:02.259 --> 00:28:05.420 to trust in our competence. We also need to fully 00:28:05.420 --> 00:28:08.839 trust in our competence. Exactly. How we're delivering 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.039 and of what more we can have. And I tell you, 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.740 Sasha, even just being in your space has got 00:28:14.740 --> 00:28:18.440 me thinking about pushing a little bit faster, 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:23.119 stronger. for like a higher level position, creating 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.799 a higher level position at my workplace, because 00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:27.980 like, I'm looking around at what I'm doing and 00:28:27.980 --> 00:28:32.259 it's way above pay grade, right? Well, that's 00:28:32.259 --> 00:28:36.519 another thing, right? Is that as women, we, that 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:41.400 people pleasing aspect, you know, we, so I'm, 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.839 you seem like you love your job. So I'm not really 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.880 talking about you. What I'm talking about is 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.470 the women that are like, you know, they're, preying 00:28:49.470 --> 00:28:52.609 on a shiny star that their leaders like they 00:28:52.609 --> 00:28:56.589 get this job and they spend their entire life 00:28:56.589 --> 00:28:58.910 pretty much 50 to 60 hours a week performing 00:28:58.910 --> 00:29:03.609 and saying like you know i i you know i have 00:29:03.609 --> 00:29:05.210 to be the first one to leave and the last one 00:29:05.210 --> 00:29:07.490 to stay and i have to go above and beyond with 00:29:07.490 --> 00:29:09.950 this and go above and beyond and and they're 00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:12.630 they're hoping on a star wishing upon a dream 00:29:12.630 --> 00:29:16.339 that they get a promotion and they get like a 00:29:16.339 --> 00:29:17.980 salary raise like this. They think that that's 00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:19.859 going to be an automatic thing and it's not. 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.400 And so what it drives is - See me, see me, see 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.579 me. Exactly. What it drives is resentment because 00:29:25.579 --> 00:29:27.619 that's where you get the disgruntled people because 00:29:27.619 --> 00:29:29.079 they're like, well, I did this and I did all 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.500 that and I get nothing because they come in with 00:29:31.500 --> 00:29:34.220 the expectation. They say, if I just work hard 00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:37.380 enough, they'll see me. And that's not, that's 00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:39.079 just going to drive you to burnout and resentment, 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.079 you know, because that's not the way it works 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.039 in corporate. In corporate, if you haven't noticed 00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:47.759 yet, it's the people that built the best relationships. 00:29:48.700 --> 00:29:52.920 It's the people that knows people. This is why 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:55.279 sometimes when I hear people say, well, I can't 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:56.980 believe they hired that girl and she gets paid 00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:59.119 way more than I do. And I'm like, yeah, because 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.500 she negotiated her salary and you didn't. Yeah. 00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.359 She just went, let's just be frank. She just 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.779 went for more. Um, you know, so, so like, let's 00:30:08.779 --> 00:30:11.200 take accountability for ourselves. And like I 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.180 said, you sound like you love your job. I'm talking 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:15.019 mostly about the women that are like, you know, 00:30:15.019 --> 00:30:19.859 they're like, you know, I, I, I've heard it all. 00:30:19.900 --> 00:30:21.940 I've seen it all. And I, and I, and I, and I 00:30:21.940 --> 00:30:24.200 really, my heart breaks for women because it's, 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:27.380 it's like, it's the same thing. This is why I 00:30:27.380 --> 00:30:30.579 do holistically because usually The same woman 00:30:30.579 --> 00:30:33.160 that have a hard time with like setting boundaries 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.759 with men, you're usually going to see it in the 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.799 workplace. Like, this is the woman that is like, 00:30:38.019 --> 00:30:40.640 you know, I cook for you. I clean for you. I 00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.480 do this for you. I do that for you. And like, 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.859 you won't give me a ring. You won't propose to 00:30:44.859 --> 00:30:46.680 me, but they're doing the same thing at work. 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:50.460 They're expecting to, you know, when that should 00:30:50.460 --> 00:30:52.980 have been, you shouldn't be performing. That 00:30:52.980 --> 00:30:55.279 should be something like, if you walk, like you 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.720 deserve that. You would have had that in the 00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.259 bag from the beginning. Like you would have set 00:30:59.259 --> 00:31:01.339 yourself up to say, this is what I'm going to 00:31:01.339 --> 00:31:03.740 get. And if this is not what is happening, I'm 00:31:03.740 --> 00:31:06.779 gone. But we keep trying a little bit harder, 00:31:06.900 --> 00:31:08.099 a little bit harder, performing a little bit 00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:10.880 harder. And like I said, we end up burning out 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.099 and resentful because we're not on the same page 00:31:14.099 --> 00:31:16.220 with these people that we are. You know what 00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:19.259 I mean? So yeah, there's so in local government, 00:31:19.380 --> 00:31:22.880 we tend to say if you don't let it break, it 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:27.170 can't be fixed. Right. And I do love my job, 00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:30.150 but I also am ambitious. And anytime I have worked 00:31:30.150 --> 00:31:32.470 in local government, I've been able to grow the 00:31:32.470 --> 00:31:35.589 service portfolio and have those same intentions 00:31:35.589 --> 00:31:37.970 here and having those conversations. So even 00:31:37.970 --> 00:31:41.309 when you love your job, be encouraged to still 00:31:41.309 --> 00:31:45.890 ask for more because it is available and you're 00:31:45.890 --> 00:31:50.809 well positioned to achieve it. And then this. 00:31:51.609 --> 00:31:54.130 What I say to women, I'm so sorry not to cut 00:31:54.130 --> 00:31:56.609 you off, but what I say to women is don't go 00:31:56.609 --> 00:31:58.430 in there with the thought is I'm going to become 00:31:58.430 --> 00:32:01.009 irreplaceable. You have to become promotable. 00:32:01.170 --> 00:32:03.950 There's two different things. Two different things, 00:32:04.009 --> 00:32:06.670 but sorry, go ahead. Yeah, well, talk about that 00:32:06.670 --> 00:32:17.759 because in this endeavor, you are taking internal 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.660 responsibility to drive an external result okay 00:32:22.660 --> 00:32:27.000 yep internal responsibility drive external result 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.299 instead of please see me please see me please 00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:32.240 see me i love that what you said sasha praying 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.940 on a chinese star like girl yeah yeah exactly 00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:39.660 there god is for your knees life is for your 00:32:39.660 --> 00:32:43.730 feet get up and get going Exactly. And work it, 00:32:43.789 --> 00:32:46.450 right? Because exactly, people get things they 00:32:46.450 --> 00:32:50.009 want by asking and asking and asking and or building 00:32:50.009 --> 00:32:53.210 a business case to validate it. Like when you 00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:55.670 talked about the project management role and 00:32:55.670 --> 00:32:58.829 wage, that is a business case and negotiating 00:32:58.829 --> 00:33:03.930 deliverables and time and results that they can 00:33:03.930 --> 00:33:08.839 then. qualify for payment, right? Like a total 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.960 negotiation, it's really a back and forth. And 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.599 it's easy to quit in that because it gets scary, 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:17.440 daunting, or you're not sure what the outcome 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.900 is going to be. But get to the outcome, whatever 00:33:20.900 --> 00:33:24.039 it is, because when you get the experience, and 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:26.960 practice, and then you get to build that power, 00:33:26.980 --> 00:33:29.799 you get to keep that fire stoking and growing, 00:33:30.099 --> 00:33:32.519 right? And that's what's really going to lead 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.440 to the change. It's not Like in transformation 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.500 and life coaching and everything, we talk about 00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:40.539 what happens on the outside when we've transformed, 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.880 but the real work and, you know, huge premise 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.480 of powerful link is what's actually going on 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.839 inside. Like, let's go behind the scenes. I don't 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.140 care about your 10 ,000 clients and $5 million 00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:56.720 from one post. I care about what happened to 00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:58.940 get you there and what you went through to get 00:33:58.940 --> 00:34:01.079 there. And the only way to do that is to lift 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:06.960 the weights. yeah what what else do you want 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.199 to share with us to like based on what you've 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.500 seen and based on your lived experience of going 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:17.960 through that work now um you know it sounds like 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.079 you've you've really stepped into a solid version 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.119 of yourself you've done some great healing and 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.880 now you're just like ready to go forward marching 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:31.460 forward I don't want to say force, but I want 00:34:31.460 --> 00:34:33.880 to say like lovingly bring other women along, 00:34:34.340 --> 00:34:38.460 right? Yes. Yes. So I'm actually working on a 00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:41.199 few cool things. So first of all, I have my free 00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.199 newsletters called the corporate glow up. And 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:48.980 it's where I help corporate women. I say, you 00:34:48.980 --> 00:34:52.820 know, get the paycheck they want, the peace of 00:34:52.820 --> 00:34:55.969 mind they want. um, without having to work, you 00:34:55.969 --> 00:34:58.010 know, a day or the title that they want without 00:34:58.010 --> 00:35:00.590 having to work a day past a minute past 5 PM. 00:35:00.710 --> 00:35:03.369 So we're not performing, we're not compromising, 00:35:03.369 --> 00:35:06.289 you know, we're not saying, okay, like if I work 00:35:06.289 --> 00:35:08.429 60 hours a week, that means I won't see my kids. 00:35:08.469 --> 00:35:11.050 Like, you know, we are, you know, getting what 00:35:11.050 --> 00:35:14.909 we want, um, without compromise, but in a, you 00:35:14.909 --> 00:35:17.429 know, unapologetically, but also feminine way, 00:35:17.489 --> 00:35:19.449 if that makes sense. Like there's like a, there's 00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:22.690 like a little bit of a balance there. Um, So, 00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:26.349 yeah, so I that's where I give weekly tips on, 00:35:26.389 --> 00:35:32.530 you know, building that building that confidence, 00:35:32.690 --> 00:35:35.349 building that portfolio, that executive presence. 00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:39.309 Yeah. But also I'm actually working on something 00:35:39.309 --> 00:35:41.730 really exciting. I don't know if you've ever 00:35:41.730 --> 00:35:45.409 heard of Lean In. Yes. Lean in. So like, I'm 00:35:45.409 --> 00:35:47.429 actually considering starting my circle. So that, 00:35:47.449 --> 00:35:50.170 that might be something that like, you know, 00:35:50.170 --> 00:35:52.849 sign up for my corporate newsletter, the corporate 00:35:52.849 --> 00:35:54.369 glow up, because I'm, there's something that 00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:57.829 might, I might be announcing pretty soon where 00:35:57.829 --> 00:36:01.090 I'm like a mastermind or something more like 00:36:01.090 --> 00:36:06.110 a, a group where we're having weekly theme topics. 00:36:06.130 --> 00:36:08.269 Like we're talking anything corporate growth. 00:36:08.309 --> 00:36:12.530 Right. And it's a weekly, it's like a group of 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.960 powerful women that we get together and we talk 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.480 about, you know, like growing in corporate, right. 00:36:19.539 --> 00:36:22.360 Once a month. So that might be something that, 00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:25.039 you know, that is, is, is in the works, but definitely 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.940 for sure to stay on top of that, join my newsletter, 00:36:29.139 --> 00:36:31.280 the corporate glow up where I share all these 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:35.320 details. Yeah. Amazing. I can see in you, Sasha, 00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:41.559 the passion and the proficiency. You know your 00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:46.380 industry, right? And I just am so grateful that 00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.980 you believed in yourself enough, which was just 00:36:49.980 --> 00:36:52.280 a little bit at the beginning, you guys. It's 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.539 just a little bit at the beginning because you're 00:36:54.539 --> 00:36:58.579 creating a new thread of evidence as to trusting 00:36:58.579 --> 00:37:01.480 yourself by following through. Like you said, 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:05.460 Sasha, I had to make it work. This was the way 00:37:05.460 --> 00:37:08.780 forward and I had to do it. Fine, to prove it 00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:12.619 to him, to prove it to them, for my kids, whatever 00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:16.800 the motivation was, it became who you are and 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.940 it became self -belief that you can do things 00:37:19.940 --> 00:37:24.219 that you dream about. That's how you make your 00:37:24.219 --> 00:37:27.820 dreams actually come true, is by taking the imperfect 00:37:27.820 --> 00:37:31.210 actions. and growing that belief and growing 00:37:31.210 --> 00:37:35.110 that trust. And then now, because you've done 00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:37.469 it, you know how possible it is. And it's so 00:37:37.469 --> 00:37:40.909 encouraging and so healthy for corporate environment 00:37:40.909 --> 00:37:43.570 to start to have this shift. Because I tell you 00:37:43.570 --> 00:37:46.909 again, like at my workplace, women leaders, it's 00:37:46.909 --> 00:37:51.090 a totally different vibe. And it's not, it's 00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:53.510 just, yeah, it's just more holistic. This is 00:37:53.510 --> 00:37:58.519 a more holistic future. a better place to be 00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.519 empowered and make change and it's available 00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:06.719 you just have to be willing to do the heavy lifting 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.619 right to push through and then you get to have 00:38:09.619 --> 00:38:13.340 this and and like I mean when you have those 00:38:13.340 --> 00:38:15.059 breakthroughs with the women it's you're not 00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:18.519 just getting them more money you're you're expanding 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:23.000 their heart yeah right yeah that's the life coaching 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.340 piece it's awesome Yeah. Whatever, whatever we 00:38:26.340 --> 00:38:28.400 go through as far as like confidence or negotiation 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.460 or setting that, that transcends into every, 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.199 this is why I say I work holistically. I don't 00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.360 just work on the career part because like, I 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.039 find that women that struggle in one area of 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.900 the life, it transcends into others. And so, 00:38:41.900 --> 00:38:45.500 you know, whatever we go through, whatever we, 00:38:45.539 --> 00:38:48.420 this is something that can help shape you in 00:38:48.420 --> 00:38:50.880 every area of your life. You know, it's not just 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.900 like a resume. It's not just interview skills. 00:38:53.769 --> 00:38:56.050 you know, we get to the root of the things, you 00:38:56.050 --> 00:38:58.170 know, we get to the root of, I'm definitely not 00:38:58.170 --> 00:39:00.469 a therapist or anything like that, but, you know, 00:39:00.469 --> 00:39:03.010 we, we definitely get to the bottom of like, 00:39:03.130 --> 00:39:07.329 okay, why, you know, what is it that, that I'm 00:39:07.329 --> 00:39:11.670 doing now that can help me do things a little 00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:15.010 bit different, right? Because we can't. keep 00:39:15.010 --> 00:39:16.889 doing the same thing except different results, 00:39:17.070 --> 00:39:18.829 right? So if we're doing the same things, okay, 00:39:18.889 --> 00:39:21.829 how do we change it? What are we doing that can 00:39:21.829 --> 00:39:24.449 be fixed? It's an opportunity. And how do we 00:39:24.449 --> 00:39:27.329 optimize it so that we can get different results 00:39:27.329 --> 00:39:29.829 and better results? But yeah, thank you so much 00:39:29.829 --> 00:39:32.510 for having me. Oh my God, thank you. So we'll 00:39:32.510 --> 00:39:34.489 put in the link to the newsletter. We follow 00:39:34.489 --> 00:39:37.440 you on LinkedIn. You're on Facebook too? You're 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.840 on Instagram? I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram. 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:42.960 I'm definitely more active on LinkedIn though. 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.500 But yes, I'm on Instagram. Instagram and Facebook, 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.360 it's Sasha the Career Coach. And Facebook, LinkedIn 00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.980 is, you know, Sasha Lazoski. But yeah, thank 00:39:54.980 --> 00:39:57.199 you so much for having me. Thank you too. And 00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.559 watch out guys, because we're going to run you 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:03.900 over with our empowerment. Thanks, Sasha.