Well, wait a minute now. Let's just stop for
a second. How many guns do you have that you
actually need? Just the one I need when I'm being
attacked. That's right. Welcome to Episode Zero.
That's right, Episode Zero of the Fugle Firearms
Podcast. The podcast that is going to bring you
awareness of the best values across the shooting
industry. Because we all have, what? Expenses.
I'm Craig, and I'm here with my co -host, Ken.
Ken, do you have expenses? Do you spend money
on things? Oddly enough, I do. What do you spend
money on, Ken? Not as much on myself as I would
like or on my hobbies as I'd like. It tends to
be sucked up by things like gasoline, the Biden
economy, my falling 401k value, all of the things
that I thought I had more of and I have less
of now. So do we think that our audience, consisting
of gun enthusiasts, are all people who have unlimited
amounts of money and would spend every dollar
they could on guns? Well, I think people would
like to spend more than they currently spend,
but we want value for a dollar because we know
how hard it is to earn that dollar in the first
place. And because of that, yeah, we're looking
for things that are in the firearms community
that are both useful, interesting, and have a
good value. So that is the show philosophy. And
every episode, our listeners are going to get
exposed to those types of things, those elements
that extract the most shooting fun and shooting
value for your dollar. But it's not all about
shooting. It's about all the things in the industry
related to shooting. It could be knives. It could
be cleaning gear. It could be training opportunities.
It could be websites. It could be anything. that
really enhances the shooter's experience. So
what are we going to talk about today, Ken? Being
episode zero, this is the episode where we introduce
what we're doing. And then as we get going into
the podcast in future episodes, we're going to
have a lot of guests lined up. But today, I think,
let's tell them, we've told them what the purpose
is and the philosophy and what to expect. But
what kind of other things that we, what do we
want to say right up front about that? Well,
is this legal advice, Ken? Absolutely not. So
anything that we say here is our what? Personal
opinion. Our personal opinion only. And if you
need that kind of information that relates to
whether something is legal or not, they should
go to a... Lawyer. And not us. And not us. Exactly.
Because we're not giving legal advice here. And
we're not going to spend a lot of time on that
because it's just our opinion. Now, when people
get back to us, are they going to disagree with
what we say? Some will. They will. It's the internet.
They're going to disagree with us. And do we
like constructive criticism? Absolutely. Do we
like just being trolled on the internet? No.
No, we don't. So anybody who has constructive
criticism will have some opportunities to reach
out at the end of the show. But if you're just
going to troll us, if you're just going to say,
you know, you guys are stupid, you don't have
any idea what you're talking about, you know
what? There's lots of other podcasts out there.
But you know what makes this podcast unusual,
Ken? Well, what would you say, Greg? I would
say that it's because we're focused just on the
value proposition. That doesn't mean cheap. Now
let's talk about what cheap and value are. Ken
and I have known each other for how many decades
now? Almost 50 years. Almost 50, yeah, coming
up on about 50 years. We view value maybe a little
differently. Ken tends to be a little more on
the thrifty side of value. Cheap. Okay, cheap.
And I tend to be a little bit more on the I'll
spend money to get value side. True. But neither
of us have unlimited funds. No. And neither of
us are going to ever have unlimited funds. No.
So because of that, there's a lot of companies
that you won't hear talked about on this podcast,
the ones that don't represent value. We're not
going to dime out companies that we don't think
have value because we're going to give companies
the opportunity to come on and make the case
that they give value. I used to be really big
into trap shooting here, and I always wanted
a Perazzi shotgun. I really did. And Perazzi
shotguns, I think, start at about $15 ,000 to
$20 ,000, and they can go up to a half a million
dollars. Gorgeous. I've seen them. I've even
had the opportunity to hold some of them. Would
love to have them, but they're more artwork than
they are something functional that I would use.
So that would be a company that we probably won't
be hosting on the show. No, we will not have
Perazzi here. Now, does that mean that Perazzi
is a bad value for everyone? If you got the money,
I mean, there are people, I see people, I was
over by the beach just yesterday, and people
were driving up and down the coast, and a Ferrari,
which was a bright red Ferrari, I don't even
know the model number of it, but I'm looking
at it going, it's at least $300 ,000, probably
a $500 ,000 car, and he was driving slow. Why?
I think because he wanted to be seen. And people
want to do that, that's fine, but again, The
person driving the Toyota was, you know, at a
fraction of the cost, was getting by just fine.
But what do I drive? Well, now, that's an interesting
statement right there. You do drive a 10 -cylinder,
naturally aspirated Audi supercar. I do not.
But for me, that was value. It was value, yes.
So, you see, there are different perspectives
on value, and we're not here to say that anyone
else's perspective on value is wrong. But again,
and Ken didn't mention I bought that Audi used,
so I saved a lot of money on that. But we could
both point out that we both own the first vehicle
that we ever bought in our lives. That is a true
statement. Yeah, for you, a GTO, and for me,
a 73 Cuda. Yep, 73 Cuda and a 67 Pontiac GTO.
Exactly. So, in this week's episode, we're going
to be covering a few different items that we
think represent good value. And at the end, we're
going to give you, again, a little opportunity
to reach out, make the show better. There's no
Patreon site yet. There's no advertisements on
the show as of yet. But we are interested in
feedback and we are interested, of course, in
hosting companies that we think represent value
on the show. So without further ado, my first
item up is the LaRue MBT2S two -stage trigger.
Now, I'm a two -stage guy. I happen to think
that trigger for its price point is fantastic.
Out of the box, don't need a gunsmith to do anything
to that. Incredible reset, minimal take -up,
consistent, perfect if you don't mind having
something that's not a drop -in trigger. For
drop -in triggers, I just became aware that TriggerTech
has now come out, and you say TriggerTech, for
those who are familiar with TriggerTech, who
claim to have, by the way, no friction because
they use bearings and not sliding surfaces in
their triggers. Why would TriggerTech be a value
proposition? Because they have a new trigger
that hopefully will get TriggerTech representatives
on the show at some point to talk about their
product, which is a very inexpensive, also a
two -stage trigger, which I prefer. That's a
drop -in that actually is, for them, very, very
inexpensive. Interested in finding out what listeners
use and what they like? Again, I'm a two -stage
guy. Ken, you're a single -stage guy, aren't
you? Tend to be. Again, I'm not doing many match
competitions where you're going to be firing,
you know, four, six, eight hundred, a thousand
yards. I do have a few things that will reach
out that far. But, yeah, I mean, I pretty much
want it to be. consistent, the same every time,
and I want it to be just the same feel. It's
what I grew up with. It's what I have. It's what
I like. Not that I'm saying I couldn't come to
really enjoy a two -stage trigger, but I think
I would have to probably have a higher end, maybe
some sort of a match rifle with glass on it,
scope on it, which probably would cost as much,
if not more, than the rifle itself. then I'd
probably be much more into a two -stage trigger.
Very often that's the case, obviously, with glass,
and unfortunately so. Actually, scopes is going
to be something that we're going to concentrate
a lot on. In my show notes, I have another product
I wanted to talk about in here, which is Athlon
scopes. I'm not going to jump to that right now,
but I am going to go back to your point about
long -range match shooting. You've seen me shoot.
How well do I shoot? You're okay. I'm okay, yeah.
I'm like a three MOA guy. That's kind of a good
day. Oh, good. You hit the center. Yeah, I made
it go bang it or gong it 200 yards. That's me.
But I like the two -stage trigger because I like
the feel of the take -up and pre -staging it.
so that I sort of know the next thing that's
going to happen. The brake. It's going to break.
That, to me, is good. Actually, there was a new
trigger at SHOT Show this year, which is a zero
-brake trigger. How so? How so? Electronic. It
simply uses a strain gauge in the trigger, and
as you pull back, it simply measures the strain
and then releases. when it hits a certain point.
Probably programmable, too. Yes, it is programmable.
And it is not something that I was able to try
when I was there. But, I mean, a zero -break
trigger is an interesting item. That's reminiscent
of, I think, Remington had some electronic primered
firearms a few years ago where they basically,
instead of having a primer hit, you know, you
had a hammer and a firing pin hitting the primer,
it used an electronic signal. which actually,
when you're shooting 1 ,000 yards, even the movement
of a hammer moving forward and hitting a firing
pin can actually cause you to have an adjustment
of a foot or more at 1 ,000 yards. So an electronic
trigger or electronic primer and maybe an electronic
trigger would be very helpful for that. It would
be, yeah. And again, maybe a product that I'll
never own because the truth of the matter is,
How often do we get out and shoot? Now, I'll
tell our listeners another little interesting
point here, maybe not that interesting. We're
not former military. We're not tier one guys.
Our training is what we've paid for, not something
an institution has given to us. And a lot of
it has been just exposure across the industry
for decades. And because of that, you know, our
burn rate on ammunition, which obviously is now
more expensive than any of us would like, sort
of constrains our ability to get out. And that's
part of the reason that was the genesis for this
podcast was trying to get the most out of every
round you send down range, whether that be at
a square range and you're simply punching paper,
whether it's something more dynamic. But if you're
buying things that, you know, if you're the person
who is going to be. quote, an operator, and I
don't mean that in a pejorative sense, or if
you legitimately use your guns every day in the
course of your duties, law enforcement officers,
things like that, there'll be a lot of stuff
in this show that might apply and a lot that
absolutely will not. This is for the guys who
have the guns in the safe that they want. to
make better, that probably sit in the safe most
of the time, that don't come out except maybe
on weekends. That's our target audience. It's
the guys who really want to have something better
that they can afford because they also have to
buy gas and food. Exactly. I mean, that's one
of the big reasons why a number of years ago
I got into reloading. And initially, it was,
depending on what caliber you're shooting, it
really wasn't a value proposition at the time
because the ammunition was relatively inexpensive.
And, you know, with reloading, there is an initial
investment. You know, you've got to buy a press.
You've got to buy dies. You've got to, you know,
there's a whole bunch of things. You can get
into reloading for about $100 on the low end,
you know, to reload. And then you can take it
up to the multi thousands of dollars or more
to really get into high volume reloading. And
I'm still using a, it's a single stage press
with a, with a turret on it. So I basically,
it's a seven position reading. It's a high quality
item and I can reload virtually everything I
have. And there are certain calibers I have to
do that with because I've got some oddball character
calibers that are, When you go out into the commercial
market, there are $7 to $10 a round. I don't
want to spend $7 to $10 a round, but I do want
to occasionally shoot this monstrosity that I
have acquired over the years. You've got to be
a reloader if you're going to do that. I don't
have any of those guns you're talking about.
I don't necessarily aspire to either because
My collection is a lot smaller than yours. For
dear listeners, Ken's collection is substantial,
and mine is less substantial. He spends it on
supercars. I spend it on other things. I spend
it on all kinds of things. But, you know, kids'
education, for one thing. That's true. How much
beer have you had recently, Ken? That's a good
question. Over 60 years of age now, and I have
never once had an alcoholic beverage of any type.
And that's not a religious reason or something
like that. That is a personal decision I made
early in life. And how much money have I saved?
I'm not buying beer or alcohol, lo these six
decades. Sure. And in my garage that Ken has
seen many times, I have a bottle collection of
over 750 bottles. And every one of those bottles
is one that I personally consumed. So, yeah,
there are differences in how we view value. What
product do you want to bring up first? Oh, I
don't know. I've got all sorts of things that
we can talk about. But, for example, I was approached
recently by a friend's wife. He passed away of
pancreatic cancer, quite sad, at the age of 63.
And his wife, now alone in a house and feeling
like she wanted to own her first firearm. And
she was looking for a value firearm. And I said,
okay. I tend to be, for new shooters and for
anybody who's getting into the shooting sports,
I tend to be a revolver guy first. I tell them,
revolver first, and then you want to move on
to something else. I'm highly encouraged. But
the reason I say that is... If it's 3 o 'clock
in the morning, you're waking up out of a dead
sleep, and you grab a 1911 or something like
that, maybe you hit the wrong button, you drop
the magazine out, and it hits the floor or whatever.
They're just more complicated. Or you had to
rack the slide, or you got a failure to feed,
or who knows what. Whereas a revolver, you just
pick it up, and you squeeze the trigger, and
it will go bang. five or six or seven times or
whatever, how many rounds are in it, whatever
caliber. So one of the ones that I had suggested
to my friend's wife was a Taurus, which I think
is a very good value proposition. And again,
when firearms are offered in blue steel or stainless
steel, and the stainless steel is usually $20
or $30 more, I will say always buy the stainless
steel version of the gun. Just for the fact that
it's going to be a slightly lower maintenance.
You don't get to clean it right when you get
back from the range or the bag gets wet somehow,
something spills on it. You're not going to pull
out a rifle or a pistol that's got surface rust
all over it, which can ruin the value of a firearm.
Not that I sell a whole lot of stuff, but you
don't want to ruin the value of it and you want
to keep your firearm. So I tend to be a revolver
guy first and stainless steel. And the one I
suggested was a Taurus Model 856, which was a
six -shot .38 special revolver. Now, how many
people in the audience just grimaced when my
partner Ken just said Taurus? Because Taurus
does have a certain reputation that doesn't necessarily
put them in a good light. But Taurus actually
has turned a lot of things around. In conversations
at the SHOT Show I had, the quality assurance
side of the house has figured it out based on
new management. And they really are, you know,
trying to, they know where their weaknesses are
and they're trying to repair that image. And
they're trying to do so objectively, not just
through advertising or something like that. So,
you know, good on you. And, you know, again,
are you going to recommend that Taurus, the one
that's sitting right in front of you on the table,
are you going to recommend that particular Taurus
to a guy who is going to be out, you know, in
pitched gun battles every week? Probably no.
Okay, but if it's a purse gun or in the safe
next to the bed or something like that, is it
going to go bang when you pull that trigger?
Six times. It's going to go bang when you pull
that trigger. And that's really the important
thing to remember here, which is that if she
was presented with, you told her she had to go
get company XYZ's 1911. you know, tricked out.
And by the way, you have to send it in for a
trigger job and new springs. Race tuning. And
checkering and so on. And you're only going to
be out $2 ,000 on this gun. Would she have a
gun right now? No. This, the value gun here,
it was on sale at the opening of a recent gun
store here in our town here. And it was $299.
And I went down to take a look at it, and I said,
it's great. It's not a high -end Smith & Wesson
or something like that, but at $299 for a stainless
steel .38 special revolver, which will spend...
Probably a couple of weekends a year at the range,
maybe 100 rounds through it, 200 rounds through
it most per year. Is this going to be something
that a woman could rely upon? Absolutely. Become
proficient at? Absolutely. And a value proposition
for her? Because she doesn't have a lot of money.
If you've got a ton of money, you're listening
to the wrong podcast. Yeah. Well, you can have
a lot of money and still find value in what we're
talking about. Because when I mean some of the
things that I'm planning on talking about in
the future are things that you might, you know,
I've mentioned TriggerTech. I mean, heretofore,
I would have thought TriggerTech, no way are
they a value company. I mean, they're a top end
company. Then if I want to spend north of three
bills on a trigger. Maybe I'll consider that,
but I don't want to spend north of three bills
on a trigger because I don't use it often enough
to justify that. And to tell you the truth, being
the three MOA shooter I am, I don't justify it.
So why not get something a little bit more affordable?
Right. You know, one of the things I wanted to
talk about, too, having been to a number of shot
shows, a constant person there is Jerry Michalik.
One thing you might want to tell people who might
not know what the SHOT Show is. You know what?
You're right. The Shooting and Hunting Outdoor
Trade Show, which is an annual event that happens
for decades now in Las Vegas. It used to be in
other locations. But the SHOT Show is essentially
the pinnacle of trade shows in the shooting industry.
It is bigger than the NRA convention in terms
of the number of exhibitors. And this year they've
expanded. the floor space out into, it is at
the Palazzo at the Sands Convention Center and
it has spilled over now into the Caesars Forum
and they've massively increased the floor space
there. It is a trade industry show and both you
and I are in the trade. It's not a public show,
so it's not a buyer's show unless you're buying
large quantities of something. But at the same
time, it does give you exposure to all the industry
insiders. So walking around the SHOT Show for
the purposes that I was there, some of the tangential
conversations I had, Jerry Michalik was there.
And Jerry, if you don't know who he is, he's
a fun and really wonderful guy. And by the way,
his daughter. Lena has really come into her own
and is standing on her own two feet and not just
riding her dad's coattails in terms of being
a legitimate shooting personality, shall we say.
Jerry is known for his ridiculously fast and
controlled shooting. Preeminent shooter. Probably
in the country, if not the world, of A. In some
ways, I mean, I think his competitive days are
well behind him. But, you know, he's still very
much an influencer. He came up a few years back
with a compensator for 223. And I know some people
might say, why would you comp a 223? Well, I'll
tell you one reason to comp a 223. Ken and I
both live in California. And California views
what dimly? Flash hiders. Because flash hiders
are evil. They're actually safety equipment,
but they are, yeah, according to that. No, but
no, no, no, they're evil. Evil. Evil. Evil, so
says our leadership in Sacramento. Right. But
the compensator's not. So if you want to have
a muzzle device on the end of your AR, compensator's
perfectly fine. Yeah, or even on some... Some
bolt -action guns, a lot of firearms these days
are coming with threaded barrels, and you can
place compensators on almost anything, and it
actually does increase the pleasurability of
shooting almost any caliber. Not for the people
next to you, it doesn't. Well, it depends on
what it is, but that's true. They do have those
redirect -forward ones and different styles and
so forth, but yeah, it's just true. Absolutely,
and in fact, in the case of Jerry's compensator,
I ended up having the opportunity to talk to
him about the design because it's very unique.
It doesn't have holes on the top. And you think,
well, how's it going to press the barrel down
if it doesn't have holes on top? What it has
is one of the ports is cut differentially where
it is narrower on the top than it is on the bottom.
And that creates the downward pressure. Trapezoid.
Not exactly a trapezoid, but a differential cut
in one of the vents so that it does create downward
pressure because there's more metal on the bottom
of the thing than there is on the top. So I asked
him, you know, how did you come up with this
design? By the way, there are objective tests
out there that show that Jerry Michalik's compensator
is one of the most effective on the market. You
don't have to have something that looks like
it came off a video game. or out of a sci -fi
movie to have an effective compensator. So how
did he do that? He said he used the paper test,
and he had told me that a few years ago when
I went to one of the shows, and I didn't understand
the paper test. What does that mean? Well, I
ended up talking to him again this year and asked
him, you told me the paper test, Jerry, but what
did you mean by that? He said, oh, I took a piece
of notepad paper, and I held it in front of the
gun, and I kept... changing the design until
the paper wouldn't rip, until it was basically
right, not exactly up against the muzzle, but
close to the muzzle. And when it didn't rip the
paper because of the venting gases to the side,
he goes, I knew I had the right design. Oh, and
you know how he did it? He started off the design
using 10 -22 bull barrel blanks that he cut up
and then milled and then just tried different
designs. Very inexpensive comp as comps go. There
are some cheaper. Some are very effective. Some
are not. But the Jerry Mitchell Compensator,
highly recommended. Very easy to clean because
the vents are very large. It doesn't have lots
of little holes in it that get plugged up with
carbon and things like that. It just looks great.
What's another thing you want to discuss? Oh,
interesting question. I don't know. I have a
bunch of odd things I could bring in and talk
about. Bring us something odd. All right. Those
of you who watch Quigley Down Under. who basically
watched what an 1874 Buffalo rifle was capable
of doing. I recently acquired one. Mine is an
Italian copy of it, but it's considered very
good. And it's not in the original .45 -110 caliber
or .45 -120 caliber. And what that means is .45
is the diameter of the bullet, .45 inches basically.
And then originally a .110 or a .120 would be
110 grains of black powder. Mine is also in a
black powder cartridge, but it's the .45 -70,
which is a .45 caliber with 70 grains of black
powder. And the .45 -70 is one of the few rounds
which basically successfully made the transition
from the black powder era, which pretty much
ended about 1900 and made it into the modern
era with the development of smokeless powders.
And the 4570 today is capable with modern powders,
modern chemistry, modern smokeless powders, of
well exceeding the capabilities of a 45110 black
powder or a 45120 black powder. And so anyway,
I have it with the double set triggers and the
octagon barrel. And it's an 800 -yard rifle.
You're basically lobbing it in because it's going
to come out the muzzle end probably somewhere
around the 1600, depending on if you hot load
it, maybe up to 2 ,000 or so feet per second.
And you're going to be lobbing a very heavy 500
-grain and anywhere from 350 to 550 -grain lead
projectile in a fairly large arc. over a distance
of 800 to 1 ,000 yards, but actually they do
work. And there have been some phenomenal shots
that have been made and have been verified. There
was one that was done actually with an original
1874 back in the day, and I think they measured
the shot at something like 1 ,800 yards. You
can actually look that up. 1 ,800 yards. 1 ,800
yards, yeah. Probably didn't have a lot of kinetic
energy left at that point, I would imagine. Yeah,
it was enough. That was a battle that occurred.
And you can read about it. I could look it up
for you if we needed to. What did you spend on
this rifle, though? I got it. Because we're talking
value here, right? So what's the value proposition?
I did. A value proposition, it's a copy. It's
not an original. It's a copy. And I was able
to pick it up for a reasonable price of under
$1 ,000. And the advantage is the fact that it
was done with modern steel and modern brass,
and it's a modern reproduction. So basically,
it's a brand new gun with better quality parts,
better... Case hardening better everything. It's
beautiful. Wood's gorgeous. Everything's gorgeous
about it. This is one of these situations of,
did I need it? No. Well, wait a minute now. Let's
just stop for a second. How many guns do you
have that you actually need? Just the one I need
when I'm being attacked. That's right. That I
need to defend myself or my family. But no, this
was a bit of a splurge, but it was something
I wanted to acquire. If you've watched the Quigley
Down Under movie, you kind of get to appreciate
what Tom Selleck did there in the movie. I actually
saw the original Quigley rifle that he used in
the movie at the National Firearms Museum a number
of years ago. That was at the NRA Museum just
outside of Washington, D .C. When I visited,
they had the rifle there. I think it's since
been moved, possibly even auctioned off to somebody.
I think it was actually auctioned off to someone
and got many thousands of dollars for a very
good cause. But anyway, great fun. Mainly it's
something you take to the range and you will
all of a sudden draw a huge amount of attention
from people who've never seen one and are very
interested in wanting to shoot one. And that's
one of those guns that I have that has no practical
purpose, but the value to me is more experiential
on what people are going to... It's a talking
thing, something we can talk to and make friends
with. People come over. Yeah, and that's a value
all to itself, really. The ability to generate
and maintain relationships is important. The
last one I'm going to talk about today, and by
the way, I don't think we mentioned this. This
is episode zero, after all. Our goal here is
to try to keep this show always under an hour,
because maybe you have other podcasts you want
to listen to, or perhaps you just have other
things to do, because after all, you're probably
still earning money. just like Ken and I still
are. But we do want to keep this to, you know,
notionally in the 40 minute to one hour time
period, and certainly not more than that. And
we're coming up pretty close on that number right
now. But I did want to bring up another site
that I think is worth jumping into. For those
who are looking for sort of the clearinghouse,
at least I think it's the best clearinghouse
of gun cost information, there's a couple of
them. There's guns .deals. Also has an app that
you can get that's very handy. It looks and behaves
a lot like wiki arms that allows you to put in
a model or a parameter or a manufacturer or just
simply look at the latest updates. and find good
deals across the industry for any given model.
And then it provides links and rankings of each
of the, by cost by the way, of the thing you're
looking for no matter where it is. So just from
a philosophical point of view, am I the kind
of person who would say do that and don't support
your local dealer? No, I wouldn't say that. But
a lot of times the gun that you really want isn't
in stock locally. A lot of times, the wait list
might be very long to get the thing you want.
But maybe that thing is in an adjacent state.
Maybe it's on the other side of the country.
And you still don't forget patronizing those
FFLs by using those local people to do the transfers
for you. And I think that that's an important
part of their business model and one that should
be facilitated. You shouldn't have to feel that
just because your local store doesn't have gun
XYZ with ABC, extras on it that is the exact
model you're looking for that you can't have
the thing you want. Use the power of Gun .Deals
or WikiArms to be able to go out and find that.
Another site that I want to bring up that kind
of goes to the center of the value proposition
is Dvor .com. If you're familiar with Dvor, and
Dvor is D -V -O -R. So Delta Victor Oscar Romeo
dot com. They're a sort of a subsidiary, if you
will, of Optics Planet and their sites where
prices are lower on Devor. The downside of Devor
is you better know what you want because they
don't accept returns. So this isn't the Amazon
Prime model of I got it. I didn't like it. I
sent it back. This is the model of you got it
and you're keeping it. Or if you're selling it
on the secondary market. And they also pretty
much never offer free shipping except a couple
times a year. And the shipping is a flat $10
per order, irrespective of what you order. But
DeVore .com is something that you should be aware
of to go out and find deals. And they post new
categories of deals all the time. And when they
sell out, don't despair because you can put in
a request for something and then you can get
notification when that item comes back online
again. And in fact, they'll send you an advance
notification that it's going to be coming up
in a few days. Got any other products for us
today, Ken, in today's episode? Nothing specific,
but I got some good ideas for upcoming episodes.
Okay. So we're going to cover that later. So
what do we do going forward? Again, this is,
by the way, a collector's edition of this episode
because it is episode zero. And how many podcasts
have you listened to that have an episode zero?
You can reach both Ken or myself. We're just
sharing a common email address to keep it simple,
so we both keep an eye on it. And it's frugalfirearmspodcast
at gmail .com. Again, frugalfirearmspodcast,
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this posted to all of the various aggregators
for podcasts, so you should be able to find it
on Spotify, iTunes, and elsewhere. If you are
interested in commenting on the show, we kind
of laid out our rules on that at the beginning,
that we're looking for constructive input, constructive
criticism. We're also looking for potential guests.
We're looking for potential advertisers. But
right now, there aren't any of those. So it's
just for your enjoyment. But if you are representing
a company or a service, perhaps training, perhaps
other types of things, ancillary to the firearms
industry, and you're interested in being on the
show, the show is definitely being structured
around the idea of having guests every week.
So with that, we'll go ahead and sign off and
look for you. Next time, thank you for listening.
Thank you very much.