WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.859 Welcome back, Frugal Firearms Podcast Nation. 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:07.599 Now we're up to episode 26. Now this is the second 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.460 part of a two -part series with Jeff Goldstein. 00:00:10.619 --> 00:00:14.179 In episode 24, you heard him talk about his high 00:00:14.179 --> 00:00:17.559 -value training opportunities, which can be as 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.800 little as free because he's running this as a 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:23.859 charitable organization. And I encourage you 00:00:23.859 --> 00:00:26.339 not only to go back and listen to episode 24, 00:00:26.579 --> 00:00:29.820 but also to visit him at highvaluetraining .org. 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.240 But now we're going to switch gears and talk 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:35.899 about his brassbuyers .com business, which is 00:00:35.899 --> 00:00:38.679 an entirely different venture that will pick 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:41.060 up all that brass that you have lying around. 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:44.000 Maybe it's in buckets or bags in your garage. 00:00:44.140 --> 00:00:47.380 It's lying across the ground at your range, and 00:00:47.380 --> 00:00:49.659 he'll turn it into money. or he'll turn it into 00:00:49.659 --> 00:00:52.340 donations, or he'll turn it back into brass that 00:00:52.340 --> 00:00:54.700 you can reload. So give a listen to this entirely 00:00:54.700 --> 00:00:58.179 new subject for us. And don't forget, like, subscribe, 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:01.740 and tell your friends about FrugalFirearmsPodcast 00:01:01.740 --> 00:01:30.500 .com. Okay, Jeff, let's talk a little bit about 00:01:30.500 --> 00:01:32.700 your brass fires business that you have on the 00:01:32.700 --> 00:01:37.060 side. As a shooter and as frugal firearms, we 00:01:37.060 --> 00:01:39.459 have talked about in the past and probably need 00:01:39.459 --> 00:01:42.019 to talk about a little bit more frequently, reloading, 00:01:42.019 --> 00:01:45.060 particularly if you have a caliber which is a 00:01:45.060 --> 00:01:48.700 little bit more unusual. Because the brass that 00:01:48.700 --> 00:01:53.670 flies out after every round or if you... You 00:01:53.670 --> 00:01:56.469 have a pistol or a revolver you'll be extracting 00:01:56.469 --> 00:02:00.769 from your cylinder each time. Those range in 00:02:00.769 --> 00:02:05.909 price from anywhere from a dime probably up to 00:02:05.909 --> 00:02:08.349 a dollar or more, depending on the caliber, if 00:02:08.349 --> 00:02:10.590 you're shooting rifle caliber type things. So 00:02:10.590 --> 00:02:14.590 there is definitely value to retaining your brass. 00:02:14.870 --> 00:02:18.889 And as a reloader, you can get into reloading 00:02:18.889 --> 00:02:22.129 for... fairly inexpensively. I mean, probably 00:02:22.129 --> 00:02:25.930 about $150 worth of initial equipment will get 00:02:25.930 --> 00:02:28.409 you into being able to reload a particular caliber. 00:02:29.949 --> 00:02:32.629 And then I see the advantage of reloading is 00:02:32.629 --> 00:02:34.469 obviously, number one, you keep your prices down, 00:02:34.569 --> 00:02:38.610 the price of shooting, and the fact is that you 00:02:38.610 --> 00:02:42.270 can create ammunition at a time when it may not 00:02:42.270 --> 00:02:44.930 be available, like we have seen ammo crises in 00:02:44.930 --> 00:02:48.629 the past. That's one of the big advantages of 00:02:48.629 --> 00:02:51.150 being able to create your own ammunition. And 00:02:51.150 --> 00:02:54.650 when did we cover that? Episode 6. Yes, Episode 00:02:54.650 --> 00:02:57.050 6. Go back, people, and listen to Episode 6 if 00:02:57.050 --> 00:02:59.129 you didn't already. Yeah, and we may talk more 00:02:59.129 --> 00:03:01.349 about it because it's a subject which I very 00:03:01.349 --> 00:03:05.430 much enjoy and constantly I'm trying to improve 00:03:05.430 --> 00:03:09.349 on it. Yeah, so talk a little bit about your 00:03:09.349 --> 00:03:14.310 brass buyers business and how people can acquire 00:03:14.310 --> 00:03:16.870 brass if they have not been saving it or if they 00:03:16.870 --> 00:03:19.969 want to just start off reloading. Jeff? Sure. 00:03:20.129 --> 00:03:23.509 Yeah, sure. Thanks. So totally the opposite end 00:03:23.509 --> 00:03:26.729 of the spectrum from a charity training company. 00:03:27.050 --> 00:03:30.490 So you're right, Ken. Brass buyers came from 00:03:30.490 --> 00:03:36.949 my experiences learning how to reload. i i feel 00:03:36.949 --> 00:03:39.069 like now that i've been doing reloading as long 00:03:39.069 --> 00:03:41.710 as i have um because it's it's decades at this 00:03:41.710 --> 00:03:45.629 point i got into it almost backwards and what 00:03:45.629 --> 00:03:48.710 i mean by that is you know a lot of the forms 00:03:48.710 --> 00:03:52.370 that you might log into to read ask questions 00:03:52.370 --> 00:03:55.969 give feedback whatever people want to reload 00:03:55.969 --> 00:03:58.469 their nine millimeter their 38 special their 00:03:58.469 --> 00:04:02.659 357 or maybe their their 5 .56 rifle or their 00:04:02.659 --> 00:04:06.199 .30 -06 or something like that. The way I got 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:11.479 into it was, so my son has some very unique sports 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.680 and activities. He is this year going to be going 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.160 into his 15th year of competitive go -kart racing, 00:04:18.379 --> 00:04:22.420 which ain't cheap. Is he going to be Formula 00:04:22.420 --> 00:04:25.040 One someday? If he's 15 years, probably not. 00:04:25.339 --> 00:04:28.040 That's just like, you know, if you want to be 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.250 an NFL quarterback. Yeah. you know exactly when 00:04:31.250 --> 00:04:33.589 do you start playing football so no he's not 00:04:33.589 --> 00:04:36.069 going to be a formula one driver you know he's 00:04:36.069 --> 00:04:38.850 more of a mid -pack driver and you know he's 00:04:38.850 --> 00:04:41.029 won a fair amount of races over the years but 00:04:41.029 --> 00:04:43.829 but the reason i mentioned that is the question 00:04:43.829 --> 00:04:46.209 is is how do you pay for that because it's not 00:04:46.209 --> 00:04:49.189 the least expensive thing you could do at one 00:04:49.189 --> 00:04:51.910 point a long time ago we had put one of his go 00:04:51.910 --> 00:04:56.389 -karts up for sale And this guy hits me up and 00:04:56.389 --> 00:04:59.050 says, Hey, would you be willing to trade instead 00:04:59.050 --> 00:05:01.910 of doing cash? You know, and I'm thinking like, 00:05:01.970 --> 00:05:05.170 Okay, here we go. What do you got? He said, I 00:05:05.170 --> 00:05:09.850 have a four inch Smith and Wesson 500. And I 00:05:09.850 --> 00:05:12.209 have a bunch of reloading equipment, I can teach 00:05:12.209 --> 00:05:15.550 you how to make the ammo for it. So fast forward, 00:05:15.689 --> 00:05:19.189 how did I learn how to reload was because I ended 00:05:19.189 --> 00:05:22.490 up with a Smith & Wesson 500 Magnum, the four 00:05:22.490 --> 00:05:27.170 -inch model, and a Lee hand press, some powder, 00:05:27.310 --> 00:05:30.709 some primers, some projectiles, and a person 00:05:30.709 --> 00:05:33.550 who taught me how to reload properly. Because 00:05:33.550 --> 00:05:37.269 you were trading a go -kart. Yes, I traded a 00:05:37.269 --> 00:05:38.610 go -kart. Sounds like a great deal, actually. 00:05:39.290 --> 00:05:42.029 Hey, man, some of those karts are, I don't know, 00:05:42.089 --> 00:05:46.360 I'm not sure. uh so it was a pretty so cash value 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.160 is pretty fair trade but i mean you're right 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:50.959 and carts can be way more expensive than guns 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.740 but uh yeah so i got into reloading 500 smith 00:05:54.740 --> 00:05:59.939 and wesson and you know very safely and and knock 00:05:59.939 --> 00:06:02.560 on wood with no incidents became pretty proficient 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.620 at that and kenya you'll understand this experience 00:06:05.620 --> 00:06:07.660 like a lot of reloaders and i'm thinking well 00:06:07.660 --> 00:06:11.300 this hand presses a lot of effort you know what 00:06:11.300 --> 00:06:14.779 if i get a single stage press what if i get a 00:06:14.779 --> 00:06:19.060 progressive press um and you know maybe i can 00:06:19.060 --> 00:06:23.180 load more 500 magnum if i get a progressive press 00:06:23.180 --> 00:06:25.899 because you know this hand press ain't great 00:06:25.899 --> 00:06:30.560 for loading 500 back so so uh you know and then 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.079 it turned into just like what every reloader 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:34.920 is like what other calibers do i need to reload 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.819 oh i can reload nine millimeter and nine millimeters 00:06:37.819 --> 00:06:41.079 not saving you any money at least you know around 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:43.420 these parts you're pretty much break even with 00:06:43.420 --> 00:06:47.199 factory ammo but it's a fun hobby yeah so um 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.360 where do i get the brass and so where where brass 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:54.660 buyers came from was a range where i was renting 00:06:54.660 --> 00:06:59.740 their facility to do training was also letting 00:06:59.740 --> 00:07:03.279 me like take home some brass but i was only taking 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:07.149 home what i wanted for me uh one of the interesting 00:07:07.149 --> 00:07:09.550 things that made this relationship work with 00:07:09.550 --> 00:07:12.810 this range as far as taking casings home is they 00:07:12.810 --> 00:07:15.050 were a mixed metal range so you could go there 00:07:15.050 --> 00:07:17.310 and you could shoot brass aluminum steel some 00:07:17.310 --> 00:07:20.430 ranges don't let you steal this particular range 00:07:20.430 --> 00:07:23.129 allowed you in fact they rented an ak and you 00:07:23.129 --> 00:07:26.509 paid per magazine and the magazines were loaded 00:07:26.509 --> 00:07:30.620 with steel case so This range had a little bit, 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.540 they're not in business anymore, by the way, 00:07:32.540 --> 00:07:34.899 but many years ago when they still were in business, 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.100 they had this issue where it was very difficult 00:07:37.100 --> 00:07:41.699 for them to offload their buckets of casings 00:07:41.699 --> 00:07:44.899 because it was mixed metal. So if you're a range 00:07:44.899 --> 00:07:47.759 that's strictly brass only, it's not very hard 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.279 for you to take those five gallon buckets of 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:52.740 brass to your local metal recycler and turn that 00:07:52.740 --> 00:07:56.160 into cash that you can, you know. do whatever 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.199 with you know maybe it's profit for the range 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.600 or whatever but when that bucket is full of aluminum 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:05.980 and steel and shotgun uh shells and all kinds 00:08:05.980 --> 00:08:09.040 of stuff uh you can't just take it to your local 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.040 metal recycler they're just going to give you 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:14.800 their basic 10 cents a pound scrap price or whatever 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:19.720 it is and so brass buyers came from you know 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:22.259 hey can i you know take this stuff oh yeah sure 00:08:22.259 --> 00:08:24.160 you can take it hey can i just buy a whole bucket 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:27.120 from you and they said yeah sure take it so i'd 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.060 come home i'd sort the bucket i'd get the steel 00:08:30.060 --> 00:08:32.799 and aluminum out of the bucket i'd sort down 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.080 i'd have my nine millimeter i'd have you know 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:39.440 my 38s and 357s and five five six and then there 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:42.279 was like all this other stuff i didn't need that 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.379 was in there so i was thinking well what do i 00:08:45.379 --> 00:08:48.299 do with it and i i uh started selling some of 00:08:48.299 --> 00:08:51.360 it on gun broker and in fact you can find brass 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.279 buyers on gun broker we have probably like uh 00:08:54.990 --> 00:09:00.429 A -plus rating with 600 -ish very positive reviews. 00:09:00.970 --> 00:09:05.809 And so Gunbroker is an amazing platform for selling 00:09:05.809 --> 00:09:09.809 once -fired brass. But at the same time, you're 00:09:09.809 --> 00:09:12.389 also paying fees, which are totally fair fees. 00:09:12.570 --> 00:09:14.309 They're running the website, they're hosting 00:09:14.309 --> 00:09:17.769 it, this and that. But you are paying the fees. 00:09:17.990 --> 00:09:21.409 And 9mm brass, for example, there's just not 00:09:21.409 --> 00:09:25.039 a lot of profit in it. i had this idea well what 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:29.440 if i started my own website where i could take 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.039 this extra brass that i don't need and i can 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:35.100 sell on my own website and then i was thinking 00:09:35.100 --> 00:09:38.879 what if i could with the exact same website allow 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:42.960 people to submit a request form to sell me their 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.200 brass and the value proposition of this is very 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:51.110 simple you go on the website You pick a selection, 00:09:51.269 --> 00:09:53.330 whether you want cash, store credit or charitable 00:09:53.330 --> 00:09:56.769 donation. Those each have different prices. You 00:09:56.769 --> 00:10:01.029 enter your information and you receive a confirmation 00:10:01.029 --> 00:10:03.889 letter. You ship us your brass at the end of 00:10:03.889 --> 00:10:06.509 the month. We wait up. We send you pictures of 00:10:06.509 --> 00:10:09.889 what we wait up and we mail you a check. Are 00:10:09.889 --> 00:10:13.409 the prices negotiable, or are they fixed by caliber? 00:10:13.690 --> 00:10:16.549 And the second part of that question is, do they 00:10:16.549 --> 00:10:18.190 need to clean it, or can they send it dirty? 00:10:18.889 --> 00:10:21.909 Yeah, so good question. Let me finish up on the 00:10:21.909 --> 00:10:25.629 range story real quick. So what I ended up negotiating 00:10:25.629 --> 00:10:28.370 with this range is, hey, if I would commit to 00:10:28.370 --> 00:10:32.450 buying all of your buckets every month, I'm not 00:10:32.450 --> 00:10:34.450 going to ask you to sign a contract or anything, 00:10:34.610 --> 00:10:37.570 but I'll come once a month with empty buckets. 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.440 Give them to you and you'll give me your full 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.720 buckets and I'll pay you per bucket for your 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.919 mixed metal buckets. Would you commit to selling 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.200 me all of your buckets every month? And they 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.679 said, yeah, we'll do that. It was a way for them 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:53.720 to offload these buckets that were otherwise 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.259 very difficult for them to get rid of for any 00:10:56.259 --> 00:11:00.519 amount of money. And so we negotiated what we 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.279 both felt was a fair price. And I ended up bringing 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.139 home. dozens of buckets per month from this range 00:11:07.139 --> 00:11:10.000 that I had to then extract all the steel, which 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.899 was relatively easy. Steel is easy to get out. 00:11:11.980 --> 00:11:15.279 I have magnets. I have this big magnet broom. 00:11:15.460 --> 00:11:18.080 I would actually dump the buckets out on a tarp 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.980 and run this magnet broom over them. And it would 00:11:20.980 --> 00:11:23.580 just pick up all the steel I could, you know, 00:11:23.580 --> 00:11:26.019 the aluminum. Oh my gosh, that's time consuming. 00:11:26.179 --> 00:11:29.330 So. uh because you're literally like on your 00:11:29.330 --> 00:11:31.230 hands and knees picking that stuff up off the 00:11:31.230 --> 00:11:34.750 tarp but but at any rate that's how we started 00:11:34.750 --> 00:11:37.250 filling up the inventory on the website with 00:11:37.250 --> 00:11:41.429 brass to sell and also at the same time we were 00:11:41.429 --> 00:11:45.269 getting in brass from customers you'd asked about 00:11:45.269 --> 00:11:47.850 price negotiation and stuff like that it's a 00:11:47.850 --> 00:11:51.870 really good question so what we offer today sitting 00:11:51.870 --> 00:11:53.710 here today the day we're recording the podcast 00:11:53.710 --> 00:11:58.059 is we offer a dollar fifty a pound cash for brass 00:11:58.059 --> 00:12:01.240 it can come in in any condition it could be a 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:04.279 range bucket you dumped into a usps flat rate 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:06.700 box although we don't recommend doing that because 00:12:06.700 --> 00:12:08.659 you literally when you fill out a form on our 00:12:08.659 --> 00:12:11.860 website you're checking a box that says i hereby 00:12:11.860 --> 00:12:14.059 state that i am not shipping you any live ammo 00:12:14.059 --> 00:12:17.659 we don't want any of your live ammo um but but 00:12:17.659 --> 00:12:20.200 but hypothetically i mean you could take your 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.419 bucket of of casings and just put it in a usps 00:12:23.419 --> 00:12:25.340 flat rate box and send it to us and that's how 00:12:25.340 --> 00:12:30.129 we get Most of our brass today is in a flat rate 00:12:30.129 --> 00:12:32.470 box. Very few people are shipping it to us any 00:12:32.470 --> 00:12:34.830 other way. It can be indoor range. It can be 00:12:34.830 --> 00:12:37.029 outdoor range. It does not need to be sorted. 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:40.149 It does not need to be cleaned. I'll caveat that 00:12:40.149 --> 00:12:43.769 here in just a second. And it can be any caliber. 00:12:43.950 --> 00:12:47.590 So have we received a large USPS flat rate box 00:12:47.590 --> 00:12:52.669 full of 22LR casings? Yes. And I'll get back 00:12:52.669 --> 00:12:54.769 to that here in a second. But yes, we will take 00:12:54.769 --> 00:12:59.350 those. Have we received very nicely, neatly organized 00:12:59.350 --> 00:13:02.590 in different baggies by headstamp? We have received 00:13:02.590 --> 00:13:07.330 that too. So there is some level of price negotiation, 00:13:07.409 --> 00:13:10.110 but not for common caliber. So one of the options 00:13:10.110 --> 00:13:12.990 on the website is what we call a unique brass 00:13:12.990 --> 00:13:15.169 quote. So if you were to go out to brassbuyers 00:13:15.169 --> 00:13:19.759 .com in the cash for brass section. uh, there's 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.299 a unique quote and there's a, a dropdown list 00:13:22.299 --> 00:13:26.399 of unique caliber. So if you came to me and said, 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:31.559 Hey, I've got, uh, you know, five boxes of, I 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:33.700 don't know what the thing of 303 British or, 00:13:33.779 --> 00:13:37.279 you know, uh, there you go. Yeah. What was it? 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.460 I'm going to, I'm going to get this wrong. Seven, 00:13:39.539 --> 00:13:45.539 five, uh, Swiss or Swiss. Yeah. Sorry. Yep. So 00:13:45.539 --> 00:13:48.519 if you have those, um, you fill out this form, 00:13:50.379 --> 00:13:53.740 And I'll respond within a couple days with a 00:13:53.740 --> 00:13:57.460 price per piece for those. And in some cases 00:13:57.460 --> 00:14:00.559 may or may not help with shipping. So we had 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:04.159 a customer recently hit me up saying have got 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:08.539 200 pieces of 45 cult, which we will custom quote. 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.360 We custom quoted it. The thing is, is what we're 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.399 going to end up paying for 200 pieces wasn't 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.600 going to cover their shipping. Yeah. So we also 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.519 offered to kick in a little to help with shipping 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.840 as well. And, you know, we got it, we counted 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:28.259 it up, and we, of course, sent out a check. So 00:14:28.259 --> 00:14:30.940 there is some price negotiation there. What if 00:14:30.940 --> 00:14:32.600 they don't want to check? I mean, now everyone's 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:34.840 using Venmo and PayPal and things like that. 00:14:35.139 --> 00:14:38.840 Yeah, good point. So we write checks to the mailing 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.879 address of the person who fills out the request 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.649 form on the website. don't have the ability to 00:14:46.649 --> 00:14:50.370 verify that somebody's Venmo account is what 00:14:50.370 --> 00:14:55.049 it is or their PayPal or whatever. So for accounting 00:14:55.049 --> 00:14:58.009 purposes on our side and for trackability, traceability, 00:14:58.269 --> 00:15:00.809 we are writing checks. Does anyone ever say, 00:15:00.950 --> 00:15:04.789 I sent my brass in, you gave me what you're going 00:15:04.789 --> 00:15:07.830 to pay me, and I say, nope, didn't like that 00:15:07.830 --> 00:15:12.149 number. No, you're pre -agreeing. Okay, so all 00:15:12.149 --> 00:15:14.850 the agreement is done ahead of time, and at that 00:15:14.850 --> 00:15:18.009 point, the deal is done just once you weigh it 00:15:18.009 --> 00:15:21.049 and verify and things like that. Yeah, so you're 00:15:21.049 --> 00:15:23.889 pre -estimating on the website. So when you go 00:15:23.889 --> 00:15:26.029 to BrassBuyers .com, you click on Sell Us Your 00:15:26.029 --> 00:15:28.250 Brass. It's going to take you to the Cash for 00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:30.830 Brass page, and there's some options in the dropdown 00:15:30.830 --> 00:15:34.580 there. One of them is Cash for Brass. at $1 .50 00:15:34.580 --> 00:15:36.480 a pound. Just below that, you're going to enter 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.700 the approximate weight of what you're shipping 00:15:38.700 --> 00:15:42.559 to us. So when you then complete the contact 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:44.779 form with your name and email and everything, 00:15:45.100 --> 00:15:49.539 I get an email that shows me approximately how 00:15:49.539 --> 00:15:52.460 much you're going to be sending to me. And I 00:15:52.460 --> 00:15:54.740 compare that when we do our weigh and pay at 00:15:54.740 --> 00:15:56.899 the end of the month, that stuff is all compared. 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:00.000 And actually, It's very important that customers 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.799 are relatively close on the weights because there 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:07.620 have been some occasions where somebody has not 00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:10.220 put enough tape on the box and it has arrived 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:12.879 damaged and clearly stuff spilled out of it. 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:19.500 You know those plastic USPS trays? I've received 00:16:19.500 --> 00:16:25.019 a totally shredded box in a tray with a bunch 00:16:25.019 --> 00:16:27.799 of loose brass in the tray, shrink -wrapped. 00:16:28.169 --> 00:16:32.129 by the postal service delivered to me i've had 00:16:32.129 --> 00:16:34.850 instances where somebody will send two boxes 00:16:34.850 --> 00:16:38.649 and only one will show up and so we'll communicate 00:16:38.649 --> 00:16:41.269 back to the customer we'll ask for tracking information 00:16:41.269 --> 00:16:44.710 there have been some instances where either myself 00:16:44.710 --> 00:16:48.750 or the customers had to open up a claim based 00:16:48.750 --> 00:16:52.940 on a box not arriving it's rare but we do Put 00:16:52.940 --> 00:16:55.620 in the shipping instructions. Be very generous 00:16:55.620 --> 00:16:58.100 with the tape. Use lots of tape. Tape is your 00:16:58.100 --> 00:17:00.659 friend. We use lots of tape when we ship brass, 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.419 and we encourage you to use lots of tape when 00:17:03.419 --> 00:17:06.400 you ship to us. So what happens to the stuff 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:10.039 that you, if it's damaged, you know, dented to 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.299 the point where you can't use it, you already 00:17:12.299 --> 00:17:14.940 mentioned aluminum and steel, has the wrong kind 00:17:14.940 --> 00:17:17.279 of primer pocket. What do you do with that stuff? 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.220 Yeah, so let me just quickly touch on the menu. 00:17:21.339 --> 00:17:23.279 So there's the cash price, there's the store 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.200 credit price that will pay $1 .80 a pound for 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.359 store credit. We also have something called charitable 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:31.640 donation. And what that means is, let's say you 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:33.920 have some brass and you don't really care about 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:38.039 getting a check for 60, 70, 80 bucks or whatever 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:41.019 the check is, but you like to make an end of 00:17:41.019 --> 00:17:43.279 the year donation to your church or your synagogue, 00:17:43.380 --> 00:17:47.039 let's say. you ship us your brass and we will 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.380 make a charitable donation to a charity of your 00:17:50.380 --> 00:17:52.880 choice as long as they're a registered charity 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.259 which i think we all know how to look those up 00:17:55.259 --> 00:17:58.160 we'll make that donation in your name at two 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.839 dollars a pound so if you're looking for a a 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.019 way to make a charitable donation to an organization 00:18:04.019 --> 00:18:06.019 without taking money out of your bank account 00:18:06.019 --> 00:18:08.359 send us your brass and we'll we'll do that for 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.079 you at two dollars a pound when it comes to things 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:16.069 we can't use so I caveated dirty earlier. We 00:18:16.069 --> 00:18:19.529 have received some pretty grimy boxes that were 00:18:19.529 --> 00:18:22.730 clearly from an outdoor range full of dirt and 00:18:22.730 --> 00:18:28.210 gravel. And so we have a cement mixer that we'll 00:18:28.210 --> 00:18:31.309 throw that stuff into and we'll give it a good 00:18:31.309 --> 00:18:34.869 cleaning with some Dawn and some water and try 00:18:34.869 --> 00:18:38.470 and get the dirt and stuff out of it. That will 00:18:38.470 --> 00:18:41.759 definitely affect your weight, but I'll. tell 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:43.680 the customer that ahead of time. I'll send pictures 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:46.660 saying, hey, we can't pay on this exact way. 00:18:46.819 --> 00:18:51.400 The casings are packed with mud. We need to get 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:54.799 the dirt out. That is very, very, very rare. 00:18:54.940 --> 00:18:57.700 I don't want it to sound like we do that all 00:18:57.700 --> 00:19:00.339 the time. That's very rare. And if it's just 00:19:00.339 --> 00:19:03.799 externally dirty, we're not worried about it. 00:19:04.900 --> 00:19:08.240 We're fine. Brass isn't clean unless you clean 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.579 it. But if it's clearly just caked with dirt 00:19:12.579 --> 00:19:15.200 and stuff over the years, I think we may have 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.019 had two instances where we had to really put 00:19:18.019 --> 00:19:20.579 it through the cement mixer for a few hours before 00:19:20.579 --> 00:19:23.819 we were comfortable with the weight. But here's 00:19:23.819 --> 00:19:26.940 why we pay $1 .50 a pound. If you live in a relatively 00:19:26.940 --> 00:19:30.720 urban area where you have easy access to a local 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.640 metal recycler, you can get more money for your 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.299 brass than you can selling it to brass buyers. 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:39.849 um because we're not paying the market scrap 00:19:39.849 --> 00:19:41.930 price for brass and the reason we're not paying 00:19:41.930 --> 00:19:43.849 that market scrap price for brass is because 00:19:43.849 --> 00:19:47.309 we have to process and handle it so the first 00:19:47.309 --> 00:19:50.170 thing is is if we receive anything that's damaged 00:19:50.170 --> 00:19:53.869 that is going to be recycled by us at our local 00:19:53.869 --> 00:19:58.529 recycler we get mixed brass so if you send us 00:19:58.529 --> 00:20:02.009 a box and there's a little bit of 22 lr in there 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.920 we need to take that to our local recycler. So 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.099 we can't do that for breakeven, right? I mean, 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.000 we have the trip to the recycler, we aggregate 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.539 this stuff, we have to take it there. So we, 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:13.920 you know, we need to be able to cover ourselves 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:19.319 for stuff like that. But also, we know our data 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.859 really well. So 45 to 50 % of what we receive 00:20:22.859 --> 00:20:25.539 in a mixed brass box is going to be nine millimeter. 00:20:26.289 --> 00:20:30.410 And then the next call it 20 to 25 % is going 00:20:30.410 --> 00:20:32.269 to be what we'll refer to as two, two, three, 00:20:32.309 --> 00:20:36.789 five, five, six minutes. Right. So somewhere 00:20:36.789 --> 00:20:41.869 between 70 to 75 % of what we receive, or maybe 00:20:41.869 --> 00:20:45.009 call it 65 to 75 % of what we receive is going 00:20:45.009 --> 00:20:47.609 to be nine millimeter or the, the two, two, three, 00:20:47.710 --> 00:20:49.970 five, five, six minutes. Yep. Nine millimeter 00:20:49.970 --> 00:20:54.500 accumulates very quickly around here. And the 00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:56.700 challenge with having a lot of nine millimeter 00:20:56.700 --> 00:20:59.240 once fired inventory is nine millimeter is also 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:02.019 the least profitable to turn around and resell. 00:21:02.019 --> 00:21:04.319 And if you don't believe me, go on the gun broker 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.980 and see how much does it cost to buy a thousand 00:21:06.980 --> 00:21:10.440 pieces of nine millimeter once fired brass. It's 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.420 going to be like probably 30 bucks. How do you 00:21:14.420 --> 00:21:16.519 even know if it's once fired? Also, you don't 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:17.640 know how many times things have been through 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:21.029 the gun, right? No, no, no, we literally don't. 00:21:21.029 --> 00:21:24.450 So we use the term once -fired brass just as 00:21:24.450 --> 00:21:27.849 more of an industry term. We actually do not 00:21:27.849 --> 00:21:30.089 commit that we know anything about the history 00:21:30.089 --> 00:21:33.890 of it. And I submit, nor does anybody else. Sure. 00:21:33.930 --> 00:21:36.890 Nobody knows, yeah. No, you can physically inspect 00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:40.609 it, right, especially after it's cleaned. So 00:21:40.609 --> 00:21:44.029 we do some level of inspection, but... But the 00:21:44.029 --> 00:21:46.569 point I wanted to make about why we're offering 00:21:46.569 --> 00:21:50.509 $1 .50 a pound cash is that 9mm accumulates very 00:21:50.509 --> 00:21:53.730 quickly, and it's just not worth a lot of money. 00:21:53.829 --> 00:21:57.269 And so if you look at the fact that 1 ,000 pieces 00:21:57.269 --> 00:22:00.470 of 9mm doesn't sell for much, and then you have 00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:03.930 your cost. We buy our brass. We're not a range. 00:22:04.069 --> 00:22:07.029 We're not getting this brass at no cost, right? 00:22:07.470 --> 00:22:10.609 So we're paying $1 .50 a pound for it. And then 00:22:10.609 --> 00:22:13.079 you look at the cost to ship it. and you look 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.140 at how much we pay in credit card processing 00:22:15.140 --> 00:22:18.579 fees, these are all real legitimate costs. Sometimes 00:22:18.579 --> 00:22:21.319 what we'll do with 9mm is we'll take half of 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:24.200 our inventory and scrap it because we just don't 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:27.680 have room for it. So we can't scrap it at breakeven, 00:22:27.740 --> 00:22:31.079 right? There has to be some value to us even 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:32.900 to scrap it. So that's the difference between 00:22:32.900 --> 00:22:37.019 our price and the full scrap value price. But 00:22:37.019 --> 00:22:40.079 most of our customers and our repeat customers 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:44.099 at Brass Buyers, Very high. Over 80 % of our 00:22:44.099 --> 00:22:46.519 customers are who actually send it. We get a 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.099 lot of orders where people aren't sure, like, 00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:51.220 is this a scam or what is this? Or do they really 00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:54.619 pay? We have probably about 10 % of our orders. 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:57.299 People never ship the brass to us. But for the 00:22:57.299 --> 00:22:59.440 ones that do, probably about 80 % of our customers 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:01.460 are repeat customers. Why? Because they send 00:23:01.460 --> 00:23:03.799 us brass. We send them mail. We are literally 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.619 reducing their cost to shoot. Well, isn't your 00:23:07.619 --> 00:23:10.259 model, I think you said $1 .50 a pound, but didn't 00:23:10.259 --> 00:23:12.140 you say that it was $1 .80 if it's store credit? 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.839 Yeah, so if you want to convert your 9mm brass 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:17.940 into .223... That's a 20 % benefit because $0 00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:22.140 .30 out of $1 .50 is a 20 % benefit, so you're 00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:25.759 getting a 20 % benefit against replacing the 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:28.880 brass that's now been cleaned and prepared and 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.640 things like that. Yep. and most of our customers 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:36.119 live in rural areas we have a lot of older you 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.059 know retired veterans especially that you know 00:23:39.059 --> 00:23:41.180 they live in a rural area they've been collecting 00:23:41.180 --> 00:23:44.279 their rifle brass for a long time they finally 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:46.839 have a full bucket of it and they don't know 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:48.839 what to do with it they don't have quick easy 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:53.440 access to a local metal recycling company and 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.089 by the time they drive to one uh they might as 00:23:56.089 --> 00:23:59.450 well just ship it to us and so a lot of our customers 00:23:59.450 --> 00:24:03.430 are in uh more rural neighborhoods and i know 00:24:03.430 --> 00:24:05.210 this because i'm mailing them a check so i you 00:24:05.210 --> 00:24:07.829 know i can look up you know oh where is this 00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:10.789 city i've never heard of you know this place 00:24:10.789 --> 00:24:13.849 before and and see where these checks are going 00:24:13.849 --> 00:24:17.049 um also some of the brass as you mentioned don't 00:24:17.049 --> 00:24:21.099 have the correct primer so And there's been some 00:24:21.099 --> 00:24:25.940 308 in Burdan primer that we've been very unlucky 00:24:25.940 --> 00:24:30.000 to receive. We're paying $1 .50 a pound for the 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:31.700 brass. We don't know that it's Burdan primer 00:24:31.700 --> 00:24:36.859 until we inspect it. And to be totally honest 00:24:36.859 --> 00:24:38.700 and fair, occasionally a couple of those will 00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:41.759 slip out the door in an order if a customer contacts 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:44.160 us and says, hey, some of this 308 you sent me 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.579 was Burdan primer. No questions asked. We will 00:24:47.579 --> 00:24:50.460 replace those pieces immediately. We don't even 00:24:50.460 --> 00:24:53.140 want the old pieces back. It's not worth it. 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:57.279 We have made it right on every instance where 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:02.259 there's been an issue related to Burdan primers. 00:25:02.339 --> 00:25:05.220 Because there's no inspection equipment that 00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:08.200 is anywhere near affordable for brass buyers 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.559 to actually be able to inspect for Burdan primer. 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:16.440 These casings have primers in them. So we don't 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:18.259 know what the flash hole looks like unless we 00:25:18.259 --> 00:25:21.079 take a flashlight to it and look. Now, I will 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:24.500 caveat that and say there are some calibers we 00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:29.000 do purposely inspect for Burdan. So when we receive 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:35.759 7 .62x39 brass and 7 .62x51 brass, we will literally 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:39.680 flashlight those to check for Burdan primer because 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:43.410 it's just so common. It's the more common. i 00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:46.509 mean i think isn't it yeah it well interestingly 00:25:46.509 --> 00:25:52.730 we get a lot of boxer primer 762 brass but it's 00:25:52.730 --> 00:25:55.769 certainly more of the rule than the exception 00:25:55.769 --> 00:25:58.950 for those calibers so we do flashlight those 00:25:58.950 --> 00:26:02.450 uh 30 carbine will flashlight but we we can't 00:26:02.450 --> 00:26:04.450 possibly take a flashlight to every piece of 00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:08.519 308 it's impossible yeah And of the two different 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:10.400 primer types you basically talk about there, 00:26:10.460 --> 00:26:11.880 I mean, for those of you who don't reload this, 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.359 there's Boxer Primed, which oddly enough was 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:16.279 invented in Europe and became popular in the 00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.680 United States, and Burdan Primed, which was invented 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:20.779 in the United States and became popular pretty 00:26:20.779 --> 00:26:25.740 much everywhere else. Burdan Primed is very difficult 00:26:25.740 --> 00:26:29.009 to reload. Can be done. There are ways to do 00:26:29.009 --> 00:26:30.450 it. There are tools to do it, but most people 00:26:30.450 --> 00:26:32.710 don't do it. The vast majority of people don't. 00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:36.009 The vast majority of people, probably 98%, 99%, 00:26:36.009 --> 00:26:39.730 will only deal with a boxer primed, which is 00:26:39.730 --> 00:26:41.490 what you could typically find if you buy something 00:26:41.490 --> 00:26:44.509 here in the United States. The other stuff is 00:26:44.509 --> 00:26:48.950 just too difficult, unless it were wartime, without 00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:51.690 rule of law situation, I wouldn't try it. I'm 00:26:51.690 --> 00:26:54.259 not going down that. path of trying to do that. 00:26:55.700 --> 00:26:58.839 It'd be very difficult. I was going to say our 00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.900 business model is very simple. We will buy your 00:27:01.900 --> 00:27:04.660 brass. We will always buy your brass. We get 00:27:04.660 --> 00:27:07.539 a lot of emails and phone calls. Well, what if 00:27:07.539 --> 00:27:09.539 I only have this? Or what if I only have that? 00:27:09.740 --> 00:27:12.460 Or do you buy this caliber or whatever? The answer 00:27:12.460 --> 00:27:18.319 is yes. We buy generally 22LR to 50 BMG. If it's 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.470 a unique caliber, we will custom quote it. If 00:27:21.470 --> 00:27:23.250 you don't like our price, we're not going to 00:27:23.250 --> 00:27:26.410 be mad at you. No big deal. We understand there's 00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:29.170 a particular customer fit for this, but the value 00:27:29.170 --> 00:27:32.289 proposition is simple. If there's a caliber of 00:27:32.289 --> 00:27:34.630 brass you need to buy, we may have it in stock 00:27:34.630 --> 00:27:37.549 for you. Hopefully we do and we can sell it to 00:27:37.549 --> 00:27:40.789 you. If you have brass that you want to sell, 00:27:40.869 --> 00:27:42.650 you've got a five -gallon bucket of brass that 00:27:42.650 --> 00:27:44.609 your significant other is screaming for you to 00:27:44.609 --> 00:27:49.700 get it out of the garage, mail it to us. 30 days, 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.519 you will get a check in the mail to pay you for 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.160 that brass. We have not had any issues from that 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.180 perspective with what our value proposition is. 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.359 You send the brass in, and we're paying you for 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.559 it. So to finish out here, as we close out the 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.039 show, you got any from either of your businesses, 00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:10.980 High Value Training Academy or Brass Fires, particularly 00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:13.960 unique or unexpected stories that you want to 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.960 share? And then along those lines, after you 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.529 finish that part, Where do people find you? Do 00:28:19.529 --> 00:28:21.670 you have a YouTube channel? Do you have any other 00:28:21.670 --> 00:28:24.529 events that are close term that you said this 00:28:24.529 --> 00:28:27.930 year is not already mapped out in terms of community 00:28:27.930 --> 00:28:31.150 events, but those things are coming? Or any other 00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:33.430 comments about your website or anything? The 00:28:33.430 --> 00:28:35.769 floor is yours on that. Sure, sure. Thank you. 00:28:36.089 --> 00:28:38.589 As far as our community events go for high value 00:28:38.589 --> 00:28:41.750 training, 2026 is mapped out right now. All of 00:28:41.750 --> 00:28:44.910 the events through December 2026 are available 00:28:44.910 --> 00:28:47.710 for registration right now on the website. It's 00:28:47.710 --> 00:28:50.289 other things that we want to do that aren't up 00:28:50.289 --> 00:28:53.190 on the site yet. So just to clarify that real 00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:56.230 quick, I do have a great story, high value training 00:28:56.230 --> 00:28:58.410 story. This just happened recently in one of 00:28:58.410 --> 00:29:01.349 our full day classes. So there's a point in class 00:29:01.349 --> 00:29:06.730 where I tell everybody, okay, let's take a 10 00:29:06.730 --> 00:29:10.150 -minute break. This is a good time to either 00:29:10.150 --> 00:29:14.410 go get food or order your food. If you brought 00:29:14.410 --> 00:29:16.950 your lunch, then it's just a 10 -minute break. 00:29:17.069 --> 00:29:19.789 We'll get to lunch when we get to lunch. But 00:29:19.789 --> 00:29:22.269 if you're going to order food or if you're going 00:29:22.269 --> 00:29:24.309 to go out to a restaurant to buy food, this is 00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:27.869 a good time to go do it. So we all place our 00:29:27.869 --> 00:29:31.410 DoorDash order from our phones during that break. 00:29:33.859 --> 00:29:37.619 20 minutes later, DoorDash driver comes into 00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:39.980 the facility. Let me give you an idea of the 00:29:39.980 --> 00:29:42.640 facility too, because I have a feeling that this 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.440 may have been an uncomfortable situation for 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:47.339 the DoorDash driver. The building that we're 00:29:47.339 --> 00:29:51.279 in, I don't know this for a fact, but I think 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:55.160 it probably used to be a school a long time ago. 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.680 It has a wing on it that has legitimate dedicated 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:01.339 classrooms. What a classroom would have looked 00:30:01.339 --> 00:30:03.819 like maybe when... we were in school when we 00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:08.279 were kids there's two floors the primary uh indoor 00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:12.519 shooting range is a double decker with a total 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.559 of 21 stalls uh top and bottom looks like it 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.839 could have been a gymnasium right so i'm just 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.940 guessing that this building may have been a school 00:30:19.940 --> 00:30:22.759 at one point to get to the classrooms you come 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.240 in the side door of this building you walk all 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.400 the way down the hall past the private range 00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:31.079 past the entrance to the main range past the 00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:34.000 retail store past the rental desk you go through 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.819 a separate set of double doors you go down a 00:30:36.819 --> 00:30:38.660 little further and you hang a right and that's 00:30:38.660 --> 00:30:41.980 where the classrooms are so door dash driver 00:30:41.980 --> 00:30:45.099 shows up with one of the students meals and of 00:30:45.099 --> 00:30:48.019 course we're a very charitable organization and 00:30:48.019 --> 00:30:50.019 i offer this to every door dash driver that's 00:30:50.019 --> 00:30:52.970 ever delivered a meal because I know how that 00:30:52.970 --> 00:30:55.029 application works. You can turn it off anytime 00:30:55.029 --> 00:30:58.049 you want. And so I would ask them, hey, you want 00:30:58.049 --> 00:31:00.789 to stay for class? And if they say yes, I've 00:31:00.789 --> 00:31:02.730 never had anybody say yes, but if anybody were 00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:06.210 to say yes, I would hand them the books and they 00:31:06.210 --> 00:31:08.869 could finish up that class. And if they want 00:31:08.869 --> 00:31:10.869 the completion certificate for that class, they 00:31:10.869 --> 00:31:13.710 can come back another time and do the first part 00:31:13.710 --> 00:31:17.910 of the class. No problem. I said to the DoorDash 00:31:17.910 --> 00:31:19.730 driver, hey, you want to stay for class? And 00:31:19.730 --> 00:31:23.190 almost like it was scripted in a movie, he turned 00:31:23.190 --> 00:31:26.230 around, said nope, started walking quickly through 00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:28.390 the door, pulled up his pant leg to show us his 00:31:28.390 --> 00:31:35.369 ankle monitor and got out of there. Oh. So I 00:31:35.369 --> 00:31:37.650 don't I don't know. We don't know who this person 00:31:37.650 --> 00:31:39.150 is. We didn't really talk to him, but I don't 00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:40.410 know if he was allowed to be in the building. 00:31:40.529 --> 00:31:43.529 I don't know anything about it. But we got a 00:31:43.529 --> 00:31:46.930 great laugh out of that after the shock. wore 00:31:46.930 --> 00:31:50.329 off of what we just saw maybe you got a good 00:31:50.329 --> 00:31:53.609 tip out of it not an ankle holster an ankle monitor 00:31:53.609 --> 00:31:57.369 ah yes okay there you go yeah yeah yeah yeah 00:31:57.369 --> 00:32:05.730 um let's see a fun brass fire story um you know 00:32:05.730 --> 00:32:08.750 that's such a behind the scenes business um i 00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:11.869 i guess one of my favorite brass fire stories 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.180 is uh I think I mentioned this earlier but somebody 00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:18.099 hit me up asking like do you guys take 22lr and 00:32:18.099 --> 00:32:22.700 of course we take 22lr um and uh they shipped 00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:26.720 us a flat rate a large flat rate box full of 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.700 22lr like no no padding or anything just you 00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:34.539 know a giant bag of 22lr that took up the entire 00:32:34.539 --> 00:32:38.799 space of the box and I I was just thinking in 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.750 my head that oh they think they got one over 00:32:41.750 --> 00:32:46.490 on us they they you know they uh you know they 00:32:46.490 --> 00:32:48.730 were able to get rid of what was probably just 00:32:48.730 --> 00:32:52.990 garbage you know so um so that was a fun story 00:32:52.990 --> 00:32:56.069 um with brass buyers actually i have more painful 00:32:56.069 --> 00:32:59.089 stories than fun stories because you know me 00:32:59.089 --> 00:33:01.230 and a couple people that helped me out with all 00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:03.970 the sorting sorting brass at those quantities 00:33:03.970 --> 00:33:06.420 is not fun It's not something you want to add 00:33:06.420 --> 00:33:08.200 to your Saturday afternoon, but it's obviously 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.220 necessary for the business. You should call or 00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:19.099 contact Corbin. They have a way of taking 22 00:33:19.099 --> 00:33:25.220 long rifle cases and turning them into .223 projectiles. 00:33:25.700 --> 00:33:28.259 Yeah, that's a good point. We don't have a big 00:33:28.259 --> 00:33:30.440 inventory of them because we tend to turn them 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.230 over. Recycler very quickly. But if you got a 00:33:33.230 --> 00:33:34.750 bunch of in like that, I mean, you might want 00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:36.630 to talk to Corbin and say, hey, you know, people 00:33:36.630 --> 00:33:39.089 are looking for a whole bunch of the cases, you 00:33:39.089 --> 00:33:40.890 know, a thousand cases or whatever you want to 00:33:40.890 --> 00:33:43.650 turn into projectiles, two to three projectiles. 00:33:44.250 --> 00:33:46.309 It can be done. They actually have the tools 00:33:46.309 --> 00:33:50.089 for doing it. There's some fun benefits to brass 00:33:50.089 --> 00:33:54.549 buyers. I have a home build AR in 50 Beowulf. 00:33:54.940 --> 00:33:58.000 Oh, yeah. It's sort of an oddball caliber. There's 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.519 a lot of opinions, pluses and minuses to 50 Beowulf. 00:34:00.660 --> 00:34:03.559 I like it a lot. But what I really like it a 00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.440 lot for is that a lot of the components for reloading 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.099 50 Beowulf are very similar to my 500 Magnum. 00:34:10.179 --> 00:34:14.280 Yeah. So the powder is now the recipes are different, 00:34:14.340 --> 00:34:16.960 but the powder is the same. The projectile is 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.400 the same up to certain grain weights. The primers 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.469 are similar. If you read the recipes, one uses 00:34:24.469 --> 00:34:26.969 a Magnum rifle primer, one uses a Magnum pistol 00:34:26.969 --> 00:34:30.429 primer. You can debate whether those may or may 00:34:30.429 --> 00:34:33.469 not be interchangeable. Certainly, I'm not advocating 00:34:33.469 --> 00:34:36.469 for that, but they're close enough. So when I 00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:40.110 was building some of my ARs years ago, I built 00:34:40.110 --> 00:34:42.389 a 50 Beowulf. When you have a business like Brass 00:34:42.389 --> 00:34:45.429 Buyers, you can accumulate over a long period 00:34:45.429 --> 00:34:49.389 of time, lots of 50 Beowulfs. So I have pretty 00:34:49.389 --> 00:34:54.070 significant... reloaded on my own 50 Beowulf. 00:34:54.170 --> 00:34:56.789 In fact, my story is that I have literally never 00:34:56.789 --> 00:35:01.050 bought 50 Beowulf factory. I've only ever reloaded 00:35:01.050 --> 00:35:03.050 50 Beowulf because I've been able to collect 00:35:03.050 --> 00:35:05.829 enough of it over the years. Yeah, that's good. 00:35:05.869 --> 00:35:08.880 I always wanted to get a 458 SOCOM. In an AR 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.340 platform. That's another one of those odd ones. 00:35:11.900 --> 00:35:14.960 Similar. Well, we'll be seeing those at SHOT 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.860 here very soon. Indeed we will. That is an upcoming 00:35:17.860 --> 00:35:20.699 show. So I want to remind the listeners that 00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:24.659 you can find High Value Training Academy at highvaluetraining 00:35:24.659 --> 00:35:30.920 .org. And you can find Brass Buyers at brassbuyers 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.420 .com. And is there any other outreach that you 00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:38.099 want the listeners to be aware of there in terms 00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:42.559 of email addresses or anything else? So you can 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.820 contact me directly if you need anything related 00:35:45.820 --> 00:35:48.719 to either organization, Jeff at highvaluetraining 00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:52.760 .org, Jeff at brassbuyers .com for training. 00:35:53.059 --> 00:35:57.480 If you have general questions, we have a info 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.780 at highvaluetraining .org. email address that 00:36:01.780 --> 00:36:05.000 you can use you can always reach out and call 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:08.320 anytime admittedly the the five people we have 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:09.940 on the board none of us are good with social 00:36:09.940 --> 00:36:13.579 media if there's anybody out there that would 00:36:13.579 --> 00:36:17.280 like to volunteer their time to a very worthy 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.539 charitable organization to help us with social 00:36:19.539 --> 00:36:22.559 media we would love it and if you're hearing 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.099 this and you would like to make a charitable 00:36:25.099 --> 00:36:28.260 donation to high value training. If you go to 00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:32.360 highvaluetraining .org, right in the top right 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.599 corner, there's a link that says donate to us 00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.619 and we'll send you a thank you letter for your 00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:41.639 charitable donation. Also, high value training 00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:46.460 has a very active Facebook page. And interestingly, 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:48.940 we were able to get high value training. So if 00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:51.900 you go to facebook .com slash high value training. 00:36:52.570 --> 00:36:54.829 You'll find us there. We were kind of lucky, 00:36:54.889 --> 00:36:57.610 I felt like, to get that. Brass buyers, not as 00:36:57.610 --> 00:37:00.250 much. The social media platforms hate brass buyers. 00:37:00.550 --> 00:37:02.730 They have given us our fair share of strikes 00:37:02.730 --> 00:37:05.389 to the point where we have just kind of stopped 00:37:05.389 --> 00:37:09.090 using them. We've received feedback from social 00:37:09.090 --> 00:37:11.590 media platforms. I'm not exaggerating. I'm not 00:37:11.590 --> 00:37:15.590 picking on social media. But we've received the, 00:37:15.650 --> 00:37:18.150 hey, you're in the business of selling what they 00:37:18.150 --> 00:37:23.250 refer to as components. We sell casings, once 00:37:23.250 --> 00:37:27.570 -fired or fired casings. We don't sell primers. 00:37:27.570 --> 00:37:29.849 We don't sell powder. We don't sell projectiles. 00:37:29.989 --> 00:37:33.429 We just sell the casings. But the social media 00:37:33.429 --> 00:37:36.489 platforms do not like brass fires. Well, it's 00:37:36.489 --> 00:37:38.449 a component. I mean, it's a component of a component. 00:37:38.750 --> 00:37:44.289 And today, along the same lines, I got a notification 00:37:44.289 --> 00:37:48.320 from... meal meta that said that our page was 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.440 not being recommended any longer. And it had 00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.599 to do with the post where, and by the way, many 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.780 listeners don't know this yet, but Dan Young's 00:37:55.780 --> 00:38:00.019 outdoor call radio app, we're now broadcast on 00:38:00.019 --> 00:38:02.860 that every Monday and Dan picks a show and then, 00:38:02.860 --> 00:38:05.219 and then runs it in a loop with other shows that 00:38:05.219 --> 00:38:08.860 are all very, very good shows. And I announced 00:38:08.860 --> 00:38:12.219 that as an event, like we're now being hosted 00:38:12.219 --> 00:38:14.929 on this show. And I guess that they saw some 00:38:14.929 --> 00:38:16.429 sort of a problem with that, and I don't know 00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:19.929 what the heck is a problem with that. Because 00:38:19.929 --> 00:38:21.530 we're not selling anything. I'm just saying that 00:38:21.530 --> 00:38:24.510 we're now hosted on another platform. So it doesn't 00:38:24.510 --> 00:38:28.170 take much. So one of the things we've focused 00:38:28.170 --> 00:38:31.909 on with Brass Buyers is our search engine optimization 00:38:31.909 --> 00:38:35.730 for the website, our SEO. You guys can try this 00:38:35.730 --> 00:38:37.809 right now while we're talking. If you go on Google 00:38:37.809 --> 00:38:40.369 and just type sell my brass, what's the first 00:38:40.369 --> 00:38:43.420 website that comes up? I don't know. Can you 00:38:43.420 --> 00:38:47.519 do that? You're an IT guy. You can do that. Yeah. 00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:52.500 I can. I can. Give me a moment here. So our goal 00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:58.000 with SEO was to make it as stupid simple as possible 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.320 to find us because other than word of mouth, 00:39:01.460 --> 00:39:06.260 it's very difficult to advertise Brass Buyers. 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.519 Getting at it right now. Brass Buyers, number 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.880 one. Here you go. Yeah. so you don't even have 00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.380 to know brassfires .com if you just google sell 00:39:14.380 --> 00:39:17.039 my bra you don't even have to say once fired 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.360 brass casings or anything like that if you just 00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.280 google sell my brass brass fires is probably 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.420 the first thing that comes up we have good scores 00:39:26.420 --> 00:39:30.570 for that in our search engine optimization And 00:39:30.570 --> 00:39:33.969 that generates a fair amount of traffic for us. 00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:35.730 You know, it's kind of funny that you just, I 00:39:35.730 --> 00:39:37.670 mean, that's an interesting idea because we do 00:39:37.670 --> 00:39:41.730 follow this site called PodSEO, which allows, 00:39:42.010 --> 00:39:44.329 or PodSEO, I think some people call it, which 00:39:44.329 --> 00:39:48.570 allows you to understand where you are in SEO, 00:39:48.849 --> 00:39:50.670 which if people don't understand what that means, 00:39:50.730 --> 00:39:53.769 it's search engine optimization. And I just put 00:39:53.769 --> 00:39:56.610 in cheap firearms podcast, which I've never done 00:39:56.610 --> 00:39:59.849 before. And boom, we're the first two hits. So 00:39:59.849 --> 00:40:02.050 pretty happy about that. But thank you for that. 00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.190 Thank you for that inspiration there, Jeff. Appreciate 00:40:04.190 --> 00:40:07.489 that. And I know nothing about search engine 00:40:07.489 --> 00:40:12.050 optimization. Our web developer is a master at 00:40:12.050 --> 00:40:15.570 it. And he wants me to be the he's the Jedi master. 00:40:16.489 --> 00:40:18.849 He wants me to be a master at it. You're the 00:40:18.849 --> 00:40:21.730 apprentice. I'm fairly technical, but I'm way 00:40:21.730 --> 00:40:25.070 better with a 9mm than a lightsaber. So, you 00:40:25.070 --> 00:40:27.809 know, I really rely on him to optimize these 00:40:27.809 --> 00:40:29.769 things for us. And if he says, hey, you know, 00:40:29.789 --> 00:40:32.630 I recommend this, my feedback is usually, great, 00:40:32.670 --> 00:40:36.650 do it. You have my blessing. Okay, well, thank 00:40:36.650 --> 00:40:38.329 you for coming on the show, Jeff. Great, really 00:40:38.329 --> 00:40:40.449 enjoyed the opportunity to speak with you, Jeff. 00:40:40.670 --> 00:40:43.929 It's all very good. Yeah, guys, I really appreciate 00:40:43.929 --> 00:40:46.210 it as well. I have to admit, this is the first 00:40:46.210 --> 00:40:49.570 time I've ever done a podcast. Is it? It is. 00:40:49.710 --> 00:40:53.070 But, you know, I'm fairly good at dancing. Like 00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:55.210 I said, I can I can get in front of a room and 00:40:55.210 --> 00:41:00.190 talk. And I'm not shy on a stage. And I love 00:41:00.190 --> 00:41:02.730 talking about the company. So I thought I'd be 00:41:02.730 --> 00:41:07.320 all right at doing this. So high -value training 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.039 and particularly something that's closer to my 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.280 heart, which is reloading and so forth with the 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.480 Brass Buyer site. I would encourage all of our 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.820 listeners to definitely take a look at both of 00:41:20.820 --> 00:41:23.280 those websites and let us know if you want us 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.760 to do more shows particularly related to reloading, 00:41:26.780 --> 00:41:28.780 which is something which I think can definitely 00:41:28.780 --> 00:41:32.559 help drive down the cost of enjoyable shooting. 00:41:32.860 --> 00:41:35.780 Yeah, you know, this has been, you know, an unusual 00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:38.480 show because it's the first time we've done shows 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.820 that have multiple unrelated products with the 00:41:41.820 --> 00:41:44.099 same guests. So that, that made it somewhat different. 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.639 And you know, what's coming next is going to 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.539 be a lot of unrelated products just for, you 00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:52.840 know, reference shot show is now 10 days away 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:56.139 as we record this. So we'll be at industry day 00:41:56.139 --> 00:41:59.199 recovering a lot of stuff in live fire, and then 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.340 we'll be walking our feet off for several days 00:42:02.340 --> 00:42:05.059 at the floor. Trying to find you guys the best 00:42:05.059 --> 00:42:07.400 products. And what else are we going to on the 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.800 night of the 19th, Ken? We'll be heading to the 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.500 Gundy's Awards. Yeah, why is that? Because we 00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:17.000 got nominated. We were nominated for the Gundy's 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.000 Award, which was great. I don't think we were 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.440 the last five people. I think they only let you 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.139 know if you're in the top five. But hey, we continue 00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:27.320 to do this. Maybe next year we'll be in the top 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.840 five, guys. Maybe so, yeah. Out of 35, I think 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.280 it was 35. podcasts that were nominated for podcast 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.159 of the year. The fact that we were nominated 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:39.579 was just by itself. So look forward to that show 00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:41.659 coming up. And, uh, if you've listened to our 00:42:41.659 --> 00:42:44.840 previous podcast, a review of shot show, we will 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.300 not be recording it in my car and you'll understand 00:42:48.300 --> 00:42:50.340 the reference when you get back to that show. 00:42:50.420 --> 00:42:53.400 Indeed. Thanks so much for listening folks. Bye 00:42:53.400 --> 00:43:13.739 -bye. Bye -bye. Okay, no, no, I'm not. No, wife, 00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:15.059 I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to Ken.