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Welcome back to another episode of the Nick Amp Podcast. It's episode 26. Thank you guys again

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for tuning in. I can't wait to share this episode with you. This is a very special one to me.

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I had one of my friends on Arturo Carrillo. He's a photographer based out of Dallas, Texas, but he's

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not just a photographer. He's a low light photographer. He specializes in low light.

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He runs a community-based business. It's called The Art Factory. They host workshops

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and they teach people how to do low light photography. It's one of the most coolest

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things I've ever seen. I met up with him last month in Yosemite. He showed me a couple tips

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and tricks about low light photography. I can't wait to share with you our conversation. We talked

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about a lot of things from photography, creativity, finding your voice, connecting with real people,

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and taking relationships offline, and being able to share your voice out and to build confidence

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in who you are as a person to be able to put out your art because your art matters.

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where I'm chatting with Arturo Carrillo. Let's get to it.

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All right, here we are, episode 26 with my good friend Arturo.

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We actually just hung out about a month ago now. Arturo, thanks for being on, brother.

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Thank you, man. It's a pleasure being on here and being able to talk and seeing you again

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after seeing each other in LA for the first time. Or Kelly, should I say.

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Heck yeah, man. So I mean, you're a Texas guy right off the bat. You're from Vegas originally

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in Texas now. What was it like being back on the West Coast after some time away?

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Honestly, it felt like a fresher breath of air seeing what I called home. I mean, it's still

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home to me and it always will be. But going back now that I lived in Texas for about five, six years,

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honestly, I fell back in love with the West Coast and I realized how much I took it for granted

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and everything I was missing out on. And maybe that's just because of my perspective now as a

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creative, being a photographer, videographer, you know, we see things differently. We see things

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through a camera lens a lot of times and being able to take that perspective back home with all

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my experience that I have now, it's like I just want to move back now because there's so much I

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want to do out there. The West Coast is amazing, has all these crazy scenes. And you talk about how

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coming back with more experience of the West Coast makes you see things in a different perspective.

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But let me ask you this, being back in Texas now after being out in the West Coast,

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have you looked at where you live currently any differently after making another trip back from

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the West Coast? Yes. Yeah. I think the more and more I have the chance to travel,

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the more I come back to Texas just because now it's home. Every single time I come back,

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I see it differently and I try and not take the day to day, I guess, space environment, the features,

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the nature specifically in Texas for granted anymore. I think just traveling gives me that

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same fresh perspective that I got on the West Coast allows me to see that same perspective here

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in Texas now. I see it every day, but a lot of people don't. So how can I showcase Texas the way

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I see it with my creativity and allow other people to see it as well? So yeah, I think just

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traveling in general has helped me not take stuff for granted when I'm back home, when I see things

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every day, because it does get kind of repetitive in a way. So being able to step out of that and

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put myself in a creative mindset or even a photographer or even someone considered a local

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now, just seeing things and not taking it for granted anymore and knowing that there's

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opportunities everywhere you go, even though it may not seem like it, especially since you consider

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it home and you see it every day. So you make a good point there, showcasing Texas from your

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creative point of view and people who might not see it, people who may not understand its beauty,

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or another set perspective, you see something every day, it becomes ordinary to you. My perspective,

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I live in a cool area. I have all these cool mountains where people always travel across

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the world to come see these spots. Imagine how I feel about these spots. Sometimes they seem

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ordinary to me. So then you have to break out of that comfort zone, get your mind in the right area.

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Okay, how can we showcase this with our own creative point of view? How can we showcase this

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to make it in a different light? How can we make this look not ordinary? And you do a fantastic job

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creating stories no matter wherever you're at. And I'm curious to know what is the creative scene

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like now being there in Texas? What's it like in Texas, the creative scene? We know the creative

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scene is in LA, all these other areas, but you have built a community in somewhere that, at least

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from my eyes, I didn't realize that there was a place for that there. I mean, actually when I

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first got to Texas, there was a few creative communities that I was trying to maybe get into,

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but I just felt like I didn't fit in. And the longer I stayed here, the more I felt like I

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just didn't fit in because I wasn't finding or the right people weren't coming into my life that

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shared the same passion that I'd had. Yes, we do photography. Yes, we all do videography, but in

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the sense of shooting the same style, having the same ideas. So I think the community was always

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here. I just wasn't looking in the right places. And when I finally found the community, it was

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like a web, like one person led to five people, those five people led to another five people

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individually. So it's like a snowball effect. Once you find a creative, they introduce you to

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another one. And then from there, you find someone else and then someone else. And I was like,

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right, cool. I'm starting to find creatives and people I really connect with on and offline.

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So how can I create a space where we can all come together instead of individually meeting,

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maybe for coffee, maybe for a photo shoot. I was like, okay, cool. How do I bring this all together?

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And still do what I love, which is low light photography. So, I mean, that's how the Art

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Factory was born, being able to provide a space where people can test that, have fun with it,

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kind of experiment and get people together. Because a lot of us show up online for each other.

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And being able to take that offline and connect in person holds so much value. And

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it's like the glue that keeps the community together. It's being able to show up for each

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other in person and being able to share that space to actually create together and not just support

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each other online. So yeah, I mean, it's been a blessing finding the community here and it's only

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growing and I'm excited. I meet like someone new every single day. So yeah, I'm just excited to see

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where it takes me now that I found my community. Now you touched on a few points there and I want

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to concentrate on a couple, unpack some of the topics that you talked about there. And one of

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them to start out with is building this creative community. I have had someone else on who they run

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a creative community slash outdoors community in Utah, based out of Salt Lake and people all over

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the state come together, hanging out all the time, right? And I've just been really curious

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and wanting to pick people's brains who are successfully building these communities,

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what your approach is to building a community. How can someone who lives in Arkansas,

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the first state that came to mind, build a community there? How do they go about it?

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What kind of approach should they be taking? What would you give advice to these types of people?

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I think my number one advice, and I guess if I could do it all over again, would just be to

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invite anyone and everyone to stuff that I want to shoot. So say I have a photo shoot this weekend.

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Hey, so it's so and so come out, hang out, come shoot with me. I'm doing this set. Because

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if you're creating what you love and you're sharing that, it's going to come naturally and

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it doesn't feel forced in a sense where there were some times where, for example, other meetups that

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we do, there were some times where we would kind of force a concept and be like, all right, cool,

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we're going to go shoot this. And it almost felt like a job trying to put this together instead

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of being like, all right, cool, like I want to shoot this. Now, how can I do it so other people

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can join me? So I think if you're creating stuff that you already love, just invite people out,

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ask people to come along. You'll get a lot of no's, but you'll get a lot of yeses too, eventually.

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And I think in a world where we're moving so fast and things are happening, you know, like minute

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after minute, you know, you hear about all these wins, all these success stories, everyone starts

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comparing themselves of, oh, I'm not moving fast enough. But take your time to create what you love

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and invite people out to join you on that journey. And you'll slowly start building that community

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of people who love to do the same things you love to do instead of trying to follow the same path

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instead of trying to force something that you don't necessarily love. And getting a lot of no's

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and it kind of pops your bubble in a sense where it's like, oh, okay, like no one really likes my ideas

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or I'm trying to create some stuff for the community, but they're not liking it. Okay, cool.

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Just do what you love, invite people and you'll slowly start growing it. Don't try to build a fast

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community, try to build a strong community. So I guess that would be my biggest advice is just

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create what you love and invite people to join you along that. So there's a saying, Arturo,

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do the things that you love, join the groups that you want to join, whether it's running,

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photography, whatever, it doesn't matter. We're talking about the creative industry.

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And you're going to find the people who are interested in it. If you want to fight like-minded

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individuals, do what you like to do, put it out there because more than likely this world is bigger

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than you realize. And there's people all around that will be interested in what you like to do.

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So I really appreciate you going into detail about putting yourself out there and actually

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doing what you love instead of trying to fit in, put yourself into this puzzle piece where maybe

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you feel like, Hey, it's kind of cool, but it's not really what I'm interested in, but it's kind

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of feeling the void for the time being. And so I really appreciate you delving into that.

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And another thing I want you to unpack is taking the relationship offline and how that keeps the

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community together. Because a lot of the times you see this, I've seen this and you can tell,

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we had this conversation in the car back in Yosemite. You can tell when someone's being

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authentic or not authentic. And that's something I pointed out to you that even through social

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media and messaging, you came out authentic to me. And how do we translate these online

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relationships to offline and maybe someone's scared to do it?

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So this is something I've been thinking about lately as well and how to better share this

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because I do feel like a lot of people struggle with this is being able to build that strong

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connection offline. And I think where I'm leaning more towards is when you get together,

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don't necessarily get together for the first time to do a photo shoot, get together for coffee,

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go get lunch, go get breakfast, whatever the case may be for you and your situation,

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go do something outside of what brought you guys together and find connections there.

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Because you already connect on a creative aspect. That's why you guys are reaching out. That's

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where you guys want to collab. So if you can find other ways to further strengthen that bond,

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that connection, then you'll find it a lot easier to kind of grow together and not necessarily just

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grow together creatively, but grow together as a person, as an individual. And the bond's going to

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be a lot stronger. There's a lot of people that I've met at the meetups that I've kind of still

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connect with, but that bond of, hey, let's go get coffee, let's go do this. It's not necessarily

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there. And it's something I'm working towards. But I've had individuals where it's like, dude,

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I love your work. You know, so much fun meeting you and shooting with you. Hey, you want to go

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grab a coffee and just kind of talk about some ideas? And I was like, dude, let's do it. Sure.

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Let's run it. And I found that when I do that, those are the people I still talk to to this day

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that I hit up last minute. Like, hey, yo, I got this project I need to do. Like, can you help out?

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And they're usually the ones that show up for me offline in any case, whether it be emergency or

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if it's just a hangout. So yeah, I think finding something that connects you other than creativity

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and the camera, it's going to go a long way for you and that person that you're trying to connect

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with. Arturo, so a lot of people in this online realm, they tend to think that this is reality.

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And if you're following me here, they see everyone on here and they think that is what real life is

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like. And you talk about finding these connections outside of the creative side, the camera,

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because clearly we both have the same interest in cameras, me and you, let's talk about me and you,

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for example, okay. We have connections in that. But if you find connections differently, I see

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what you're saying here. You can foster that relationship. And a lot of people tend to think

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all people are is what they see online. What kind of advice can you give to people to help them

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separate their mindset to realize, yo, this guy Arturo on social media is just a real dude.

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Yeah, he takes these dope photos, but he's just a dude just like me. How can we help those people

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kind of shift their mindset or what would you tell them to approach it? How would they approach this?

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I think when you obviously connect with the people online that you kind of resonate with,

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whether with what they're creating or how they maybe tell stories or maybe something they're

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going through in life. I've always looked at the camera as a tool to help you share

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your personal story and your hobbies and your interests, because that's who you are.

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The camera is in you. Your work is a piece of you that you share, but the things behind the camera,

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the things you shoot in front of the camera are the things that you love that kind of speak to

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your soul. So if you can connect and see that and understand that everyone on social media is putting

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their best foot forward, but you don't really know what's going on behind. So like I said, taking the

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time to go get that coffee, go get that lunch, go hang out, go to the museum, go on a hike,

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go on a road trip like I just did with Juan and Ria. I think I've connected more with them

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in those moments than I ever did collaborating with them on a photo shoot.

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Having the confidence to know that there's a person behind that account. I think so often we put people

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on a pedestal, if it's the numbers or maybe their level of work, the quality of work they're producing.

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Just remember there's a human behind there. We all love to be seen. We all love to be heard.

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So take the time to listen, take the time to see them, show up for them, and you'll find that more

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people will start showing up for you as well. So I think have the courage to reach out and put the

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cameras away and go hang out and do something you love to do. If you guys both love to hike, go hike

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and you'll see that you'll connect on a deeper level. And the topic of creativity won't even be

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there because you're talking about personal stuff at that point. Yes, 100%. And when you talk about

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building that connection network from the camera is huge. And with your building, with your current

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projects, Art Factory, this community that you're building, can you delve into what it's meant to be?

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Where you see it going and why?

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So where it's going, I have a vision of where I want it to go, but I'm not forcing it to go there

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if it's not the route I'm meant to take. I want it to be a space where people can get together

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and connect and share that offline aspect of fostering a relationship. And I've slowly seen it.

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The Art Factory is almost a bridge to connect people.

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How do I say this? I love to connect with people, right? But I've always struggled to find that

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connection when I first started. So being able to facilitate a space where I'm providing that

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connection for someone and two individuals to connect brings me so much more joy than seeing,

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I guess, what photos I took or what photos they took because a lot of people that come to the

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meetups are now working together. I see they share posts, they collaborated on brand work,

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they're hanging out outside of the photography aspect. And

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I pretty much see the Art Factory as a bridge to connect people and facilitate that offline

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connection. And that's the space I want to take it and bring it into a global aspect of, hey,

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for example, I have Nick in California. You know what? Nick, give me a day, give me a time.

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I want you to host an Art Factory meetup so you can bring your community together.

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Let me know what you need, how I can help so I can facilitate that space for you. Because

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the biggest struggles I find is that equipment, models, and

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people are usually the hardest obstacles to overcome. You might not know who to reach out to

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or what equipment to use. So if I can help you as Nick host this event to bring that, why not do

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that? So being able to empower people to create meetups and create a community or even have a

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community there. Not necessarily build it from the ground up, but help improve a community that's

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already there. And that's why I think our core pillars, it's family growth, freedom. It's all

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about the family. It used to be community, but community has been associated a lot with just

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online, your online community. So a family shows up for you for the good and the bad.

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And that's why we ended up switching that pillar to family because we want people to show up for

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each other when things aren't going good. Maybe they're having a hard time landing a brand. Hey,

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let me help you. And growth, obviously when you get together, you know, two heads are better than

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one type of deal. So you know, you can always grow and learn from someone, no matter their experience

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and the way you're doing it. And then finally, you know, you can always grow and learn from

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someone. And then from that growth, you slowly start building your freedom and finding your voice

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and whatever sense the freedom word means to you. So I think that's the direction we're going with,

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and I hope it stays there. I do have a dream of building this oasis with the art factory where

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people come and shoot movie level sets, like production sets

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at the fraction of the cost because who doesn't like shooting cool stuff and being like or feeling

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like they're on a production set. So that's another little goal that I have for the art factory.

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And maybe one day it opens up in Utah or somewhere else, but that's kind of what we're headed towards

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right now.

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Serving other people has to be one of the highest callings, if not the highest calling

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that you can do helping others. And most businesses, groups, brands, whatever you want to call it,

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because if you're just a business, you're not trying to be more than just to make a couple bucks.

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Brands, community, family, most of them do not succeed because they're not focused on their

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audience, their community, their family, their people that they're trying to serve.

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And you talk a lot about empowering them, serving them, helping them, and fostering this community

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within each other, building their voice, finding their voice.

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Where did this come from for you? Did you always have this sense of serving others or was this

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something that developed later? Was it something that you always wanted to do? And I don't mean

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something you always want to do with the art factory. I mean serving, helping. Is this something

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that's always been a part of you?

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I think it has. Just growing up in general, being from a very traditional Mexican household,

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the men are always seen as the breadwinners, the ones that need to go out and provide and help out.

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And I think I take a lot of that and implement it to my ethics and morals that I've grown to

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become and who I am now. And maybe that's the reason why I ended up serving in the military as

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well, is serving the country. And honestly, that's probably one of the reasons why I left,

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because a lot of it was self-serving in my eyes in terms of trying to get to the next rank or

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be better so you can move up in rank. And I think that's probably one of the reasons why I left.

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So you can move up in rank, be better than the next person beside you. And that's just a very

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small aspect. Of course, the military fosters family and it's all about family. We do team

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building exercises and it's always no man left behind or women left behind. So

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I just saw things in people growing up where it's like, I don't want to make someone feel this way

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or I don't want to upset anyone. How can I help you? I was never taught to kind of build myself

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up individually. Yes, I have my individual goals, but I was always taught growing up.

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Like, hey, go help them and they'll help you in return and maybe you'll help each other eventually.

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So I think it's just it comes from tradition in my, I guess, personal sense. And then

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I try, how do I explain this? I try and put myself in other people's shoes or I try to put myself

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in the person I'm talking to and how they see me. And I've known the struggles of being alone.

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When I started my creative community, I was alone. That's why I did a lot of the self portraits that

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I did because when I didn't have the confidence in reaching out or I just didn't think my skills

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were good enough to offer help. And it wasn't until I switched that mindset and I was like,

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you know what, let me just start reaching out and see who I connect with. And then I just

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started reaching out and see who I connect with. And I started finding people that helped me

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grow. And how can I do that for someone else? Because that feeling of having someone to help you

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is just food for the soul. So if I can make other people feel that way, the same way people made me

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feel when they helped me out and made me feel like I accomplished something. Okay, cool. I want to do

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that for others. I want to continue that and help people help other people get there. And

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showing up offline has been that for me has been been kind of the food for my soul of wanting to

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help others is just because I've seen others help me. And the feeling is just there's no other

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feeling from it. So being able to share that and give that to other people is just kind of what

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drives me. That's a good deal. And the reason I brought this up is because from my perspective,

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I feel like you share that perspective in a very interesting time where most people,

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and I don't want to be general here. I mean, there's a lot of good people out there. You just

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have to build those relationships offline. But what we see online, it's a lot of

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building themselves up, serving themselves, not asking the question within,

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what do I bring to the table? Not what do they bring to the table? How can they help me?

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How can I help them? Not just about giving tips, but genuine value that goes beyond the information

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showing up offline is what you said. That goes beyond any little tidbits of knowledge that you

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can give them 100%. That'll change someone's life. And I know you know that. Yes. So to delve into,

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to delve into, keep going into your art factory, you just announced something really big, man.

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I couldn't be more happy for you. The Nikon partnership. Is this a milestone in your eyes

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that has brought some positive outlooks to keep on going? What are your plans for these next

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couple of months that you're going to be partnered with them? What are you looking

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forward to next with this partnership? Oh man. So to talk about a little bit about the partnership,

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I actually signed with the Nikon December of last year. So I ended the year off signing Nikon.

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And to end the year that way, it took me what? It's almost the end of February. It took me two

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months to be able to even conceive it and put it to words to share it with everyone. Because I was

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at a disbelief because to think the company, the camera company that started my journey a long time

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ago was now reaching out to me to do what I love. They weren't reaching out to me to create us a

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commercial or create spec work that they wanted. They wanted me to create work that I wanted to

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create and kind of help empower me to do that. So to be able to sit here and say I'm partnering

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with Nikon doing what I love. Oh yeah. It's still hard to believe sometimes. And I guess when I

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finally announced it to everyone, it kind of solidified that I was like, oh my, like this is

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happening. Like I can't believe it. Even holding the camera like nowadays, it's like how do I

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get someone else to feel this? And how do I share this with everybody in a way where

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it's going to get them to that point? So yeah, just being able to see a creative,

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my creative journey come full circle after such a long time. It's just super fulfilling. Like you

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said, super inspiring. It kind of just motivates me to get out and create. And I'm trying to

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not let it consume me in a way where it's like, oh yeah, look at me. I just partnered with this big

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brand. Look at me right now. So I'm trying to get away from that and humble myself in a way where

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it's like, all right, cool. I was able to take this step and reach the peak of this mountain.

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How do I go back down and bring other people up here to show them and have them feel this

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feeling of feeling like they're on top of the world? So yeah, I mean, it's crazy to me that

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it's come full circle. And I always tell the team, I was like, this is only the beginning.

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And yeah, I just can't wait to share it with everybody. So I guess moving forward, we'll see,

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hopefully, them involved a little bit more with the meetups maybe, depending where that route takes

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me. And just trying to stay humble and see it as not a company, but a person. So like Nikon is the

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name of a person who's helping me out. So regardless of how much or what they're worth or whatever

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the case, however you want to look at it, is just being able not to let it get to my head and keep

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my feet grounded and take that next step to bringing someone else along and having them feel

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the same way I have and helping them kind of come full circle. Like I was able to do this

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past December signing that contract. So yeah. Again, that's a good deal, man. So excited to see

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your next steps in that part of your journey. And staying on the topic of photography, low light,

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which is what you guys at the Art Factory and your team, they specialize in. Now, low light

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photography is not exactly the normal type of photography that you see your average Joe doing,

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whether it's just out for fun, maybe the Instagrammers or classic Instagrammers. You don't see that very

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often. How did you say, hello, low light photography? This is going to be my thing. Was it an accident?

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Was it intentional? Like had this all come about?

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So I would like to say it was intentional, but I've sat with this for a while now, thinking about

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how I got here and why low light photography was such a calling for me. And a lot of people don't

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know this. I still work pretty much a nine to five, you can say I'm up like at five o'clock in the

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morning. I go take care of the family business. I help my dad out with the construction company.

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And by the time I get off, it's four or five PM. So you're talking about a 12 hour day.

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And I'm racing, right? Depending on the time of the year, I'm racing to go to a location so I don't

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miss out on the light and get this beautiful sunset. And half the time I get home, I still have to

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shower, I have to eat. I want to relax because it's been a long summer day, maybe. So by the time I'm

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done and I'm at a place where I can kind of enjoy my hobbies, whether that was go to the gym or create,

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it was already dark. So how do I still create in darkness when I really wanted to shoot the

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sunset? But in knowing that, it was like, okay, cool. I can't do that because I work this job right

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now. You know, maybe I have the weekends where I can take advantage of it. But if I really want to

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grow and I guess level up and just get better at photography and videography, I have to do this

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constantly. I can't just wait for the weekends to create. So yeah, by the time I got off and I was

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ready to create, it was already dark. So I ended up buying lights. I started creating. And the more

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I played with it, the more I found myself like, sunsets are cool and I love them and there's

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something about them that is just so special. But once the sun's gone, the lights are all off

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and you turn your lights on, you're pretty much holding the power of the sun in your hand and

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being able to create scenes and morph them in a way that speaks to whatever emotion you're trying

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to portray, whatever story you're trying to tell. And I found that so much fun. It's almost like

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you're painting a canvas with a brush. It's all right, cool. How do I paint this light onto this

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black canvas to showcase these different features in the photo, in the video? So I think I like to

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say it was intentional because I've always been drawn to continuous lighting. But looking back

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at it, it never was. It was always one of those things where I had to adapt and overcome. And

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that's kind of where my path led me to. And here I am doing low light now. So

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it appears a lot of people who fall into these passions that they have, their callings,

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their hobbies that turn into businesses, whatever they're doing. A lot of the times

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it starts with this problem or situation that they've had to adapt to and learn how to navigate

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around it. And hearing yours falling into something that is a passion or that gives you a

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chance to express your voice, your creativity, your inspiration, the message you want to tell

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other people is truly inspiring because people get caught up in that they can't be taking these

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photos like this landscape photographer all the time because they can't travel because they have

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to work Monday through Friday, or they can't take these portraitures in their fancy studio because

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they don't own a specific white backdrop. I don't know, lights, different things like that. And

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seeing you do that is truly inspiring. You said, I want to do photography and sunset's over. Now

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we have this low light that we can do and experiencing it firsthand over there in Yosemite

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was incredible seeing you guys, how passionate you were about it, creating the light, shaping it,

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shifting it around, putting your heart into it. Cause I could tell you can tell what someone

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knows what they're doing. You truly can. And that energy feeds back off to other people around you.

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So truly amazing, man. And I got a chance to meet your team, every one of them. And they were all

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such great people. How did building this team for the Art Factory come to be? Cause clearly this

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started from you. You found this love for low light photography for having to adapt. And now you have

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these other people who are now also interested in low light. How did you build this team and

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how did it all start in terms of meeting these people?

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Oh man. So Kwon was the first one. It all came, it all started with me, like I said,

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wanting to share this with everybody. So my first thought was, all right, cool. I want to do low

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light, but I can't do it by myself. And I want to give people kind of that feeling of being wanted,

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of being able to showcase their work. So I reached out to Kwon, I was like, hey bro, I'm thinking

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about doing this low light meetups. I want to host you first. Like I want you, I want to help you

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build a low light set that we can share with everybody. And as we talked, as we, you know,

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we got into things and it's like, all right, cool. Like, what do you want to call this type of stuff?

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And honestly, no one part of the team helped me create this name. I had another friend, I don't

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know if you know, LJ, she helped me come up with this name outside of it, just because I talked to

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her about it. And I was like, how do I, you know, what do I call this? You know, I'm hosting Kwon.

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I don't know what really to say. Do I just say photography meetup featuring Kwon? So she helped

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me build the name, but it all started from wanting to host Kwon as a photographer and build a set with

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him to me and Kwon discussing it. Be like, all right, cool. Like, you know, should we make a

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logo for this or what do you want to do? Like, what do you want to keep, you know, keep going

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forward after this? Like, what do you want to do after this? What do you want to feature? And

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one thing led to another. We're like, all right, let's make this a thing. Let's, you know,

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let's not host you anymore. Let's create something together and host other people.

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And so that's where it started. That's where it trickled for me and Kwon. And then needing a logo,

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needing kind of branding, right? To portray your message. I recently at that time, I met up with

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Gabe, I think within two months of speaking online, he sent me a message about a story. So I sent him

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like a voice memo back explaining how I did the story. And one thing led to another. And two

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months later, I was flying out to Florida, staying at his house with his family, spending a week

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creating with each other. And fast forward a bit, me and Kwon had this whole conversation.

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And I was like, yo, I know someone that can create a logo for us. Let's reach out. Let's hop on a call

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with him and kind of discuss things. So we hopped on a call with Gabe. He gave us like this questionnaire

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to answer for branding. Like, all right, cool. I need you guys to answer this question. So I kind of know

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what direction, what you guys are about. And we answered that. We hopped on another call. He created

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this logo for us. It started with my original logo. I don't know if you ever saw the Not Just Start.

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It's like a A with like a top and a circle. So I was able to implement that logo into the logo we

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have now. And the logo is a cactus flower. So me and Kwon being Hispanic, you know, how do we bring

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kind of our culture into it? So we decided to go with the cactus flower. And that's like a story

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for a different day. We can dive into that another time. But Gabe helped build this logo for us.

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And he was doing so much. And I was like, Gabe, do you just want to be a part of the team now?

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Or, you know, are you cool with just hopping on and, you know, helping us create this? And he said,

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yes. And that's how the three of us started. And in the logo, there's a triangle with three corners,

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which it's a corner for each of us. And the whole concept behind the flower was

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petals on a flower sometimes fall, but it's almost infinite. They keep growing. So there's always new

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petals that kind of grow. And I guess that's how the logo is. It's we can keep adding petals and

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adding, I guess, to the flower and having the flower like just look bigger, grow more. And we're

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slowly doing that. Ryo was the next one to hop on the team, the next petal in the art factory,

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helping us with just different aspects, a lot of admin stuff, models. After that, a good friend of

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mine, Andy, we've known each other since high school. He was my ride or die. He's always been

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there for me. Anytime I wanted to go travel, go hiking, go explore the world, he was the one I hit

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up. And we'd always go venture off and see the world together. And he started coming out to this

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meetups, never picked up a camera in his life, was never a photographer, never had the desire

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of being a photographer. But he showed up, flew out every single time to every single workshop.

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And I sat down one day and I was like, damn, like, you're the homie. You know, you're coming out to

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this and supporting me. So damn, I'm getting all emotional now, just thinking about it. But

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having someone show up for me offline, like I told you, was like the biggest thing ever for me. So

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Andy doing that was awesome. So I was like, all right, bro, I want to bring you on the team.

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You know, you don't do photography, you don't do videography, but we'll teach you. I want you to

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feel valued and be a part of the team. You've been the biggest cheerleader we've had so far,

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supporting us. So now we're teaching them photography. We want to teach them videography.

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He's been in charge of a lot of our BTS content that you've been seeing.

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And he's been helping us out with just about anything and everything that he could help out

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with. And we actually have a new member and I guess this is a good way to announce it.

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Tony, he was, after the LA road trip, we had the meetup and we officially invited him to the team.

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And he was one of the first ones that I've kind of, I've mentioned. He invited me and Juan to go

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rock climbing, not do photography, not do anything, just go rock climbing. And we went rock climbing

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and we just connected and we found that we've had so much things alike. We had similar hobbies,

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similar passions outside of the photography world or videography world. And we just connected. So

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he's another one that's been showing up for us a lot and we want to, and we have brought him on

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the team to kind of help grow the art factory. And I think just finding the right people has

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happened because I was able to connect with them outside of what brought us together. So

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yeah, we're just a couple of friends trying to share what we love and hopefully bring more people

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on board and keep growing the pedals on our logo and see where it goes from there.

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Amazing. And I love hearing that how that team came to be. And for the people listening, I'll

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share a little story about me meeting Arturo not too long ago, maybe a month ago in person for the

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first time. I met his entire team at Yosemite, some place that from those of you who are listening

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know that I know it like the back of my hand for me being in Yosemite is like being at home and

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being able to have his whole team come over there and meet everyone. It was a truly cool experience

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being able to see them. They were all just real people and they weren't so focused on the cameras

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at first. They were getting to know each other and having real conversations with real people.

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And throughout that whole evening and adventures through the night, Arturo is building something

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really amazing. So if you guys get a chance to go look it over at his website and what your website

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is again Arturo? It's the artfty.com. So the art factory, but just we abbreviate factory to FTY.

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There you go. You heard it here. So in terms of your road trip you just had, I wanted to recap

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a little bit of it. What did you, where did you go?

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So we started in Texas, myself, Juan and Ria, we drove all the way to Las Vegas to pick up Andy

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and Gabe and we spent a little bit of time in Vegas and then we shot straight to Yosemite.

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We were going to drive the same night that Gabe and I think we had this conversation

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off, but we're going to drive that same night to get there for sunrise, but we realized we were

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going to miss it. So we ended up staying in Vegas and then we took off to Yosemite to meet up with

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you. And after that we shot over to the coastline. We drove down, what is it highway one I believe

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it is. Drove that all the way down to LA, stayed in LA, caught a sunset there at the beach.

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And then, well actually before that we went to Sequoia and then we went to highway one and then

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down to LA. And after that we just shot back to Vegas and we spent some time in Vegas, went to

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the Valley of Fire and then just road trip back. But oddly enough at Yosemite, I don't know if you

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remember Cameron, one of the other photographers that was there, he ended up tagging along on our

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road trip and meeting a stranger on the road you know is sometimes scary and especially

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in Cameron's shoes like having that much confidence in us and I think that comes from just

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connecting as humans you know, like getting to know each other of who we really are and what

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we're about. And he tagged along with us, enjoyed the whole road trip with us and even came out to

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Dallas. He flew but he ended up coming out to Dallas for a few days and then he took off back to

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Australia. But yeah that was kind of the whole road trip, just the main trip was LA, the Cali area

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and then little deviations to go see some national parks and some state parks. So Arturo,

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you had a crazy road trip and you say you have a couple plans to come back out here.

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In the upcoming future, that's exciting. To piggyback off this and transition a little bit,

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I want to know, because just put this in perspective for people listening, this guy is now traveling

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doing road trips. He has these people who live out of state on his team and I want to know how

445
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your creative journey began. I mean you didn't start just traveling, you started traveling

446
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I mean you didn't start just last year. You've been doing this for a few years. I scroll back

447
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on your social media, you were traveling with your dog, taking photos. When did this journey

448
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in photography originate from? So growing up I was always into art in different forms, whether

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that be sketching, painting, sculpting. I was an art major growing up. My whole entire school time

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from elementary to middle school to high school, I always majored and I always loved going to art

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class and it was always a way for me to express myself. Especially being rooted in such a

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Mexican tradition where it's like men don't show emotions. So I kind of used art to be able to

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express myself and kind of show my passions, show what I enjoy to do in life and

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just express myself in ways I couldn't when I was at home in that traditional Mexican household

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because we were always taught to like hold in our emotions as men. So once I joined the military,

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I kind of put all that on hold and it was once again like hey like hold your emotions in like

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you have to be a leader, you can't show weakness and you have to be able to lead these people and

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have them feel confident in your leadership. So I kind of put all those emotions and my passions

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for the arts on hold. So whenever I got out, I was like alright cool like I want to start doing this

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again. I started sketching and that was the extent of it and then one day my parents bought that

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Nikon D3200 and I was like alright cool like let me just borrow it for a trip. I took a couple of

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trips, I was hiking, took some photos, I was like oh this is pretty cool. I started playing with it

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some more. I started going on more solo trips with my dog just because I also love nature,

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I love to hike, I love being outdoors and that was kind of my excuse. I want to go to this place,

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hike and practice my photography with my dog because nature is a vast

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space and you're usually almost always by yourself if you don't go with a group. So being able to

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hide myself in nature and create because I didn't have the confidence to create in front of people

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helped me out a lot and gave me the confidence that I needed to build my skills and like

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where I am at today. So I was able to do that as I traveled and then I moved to Texas.

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I kind of started helping my dad a lot more with the business and like I said that's kind of where

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the lowlights started coming into play. I couldn't travel as much anymore and I still wanted to build

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my skills in photography and develop this and see where this went because it gave me an outlet,

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it gave me a way to express myself so it kind of all led to lowlight and you know it just a few

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years ago we got into this space. If you're a photographer, all right cool, how are you making

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money? How are you feeding your passion? You're either doing weddings, you're doing brands,

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or you're getting like you're an influencer and I you know I've shot weddings, I'm not a big fan.

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A lot of stress and you can't be as creative. I can't put my passion into it. You can

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in a sense but being able to do brand work and finding the brands that kind of aligned

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with what I loved gave me that chance to stay true to myself and what I love to create

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while still being able to bring in income to help kind of fuel and facilitate these other

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passions in photography that I had. So I'm just trying to be more creative and be more

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creative. So I honestly started shifting like I said my mindset to just doing what I love and

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creating just crazy stuff that I enjoy to create and pretty much crossing my fingers and be like

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all right well hopefully other people like it too, hopefully brands like it too and never did I know

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Nikon was seeing my stuff. That was never something I saw or I ever considered. So when they reached

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out because I was doing what I love you know it just it just made me realize like you can fall

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into a space of like brand photography, wedding photography, but if you're not enjoying it

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you're gonna burn out, you're gonna tire yourself out, and you're not gonna go far. So

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yeah I think it stemmed from always being an artist and finding a way to express myself

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and slowly shifting gears to where like all right cool how can I do this more and that's by bringing

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in income with photography but still keeping a piece of me in all my work that I share and

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produce for other people or brands. We touched on something Arturo that I think a lot of creatives,

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artists, they encounter this. They don't have confidence in what they're creating. You mentioned

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how you created in nature, you're hiding yourself in nature creating because you weren't confident

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in your skills and a lot of people have trouble being confident in their skills and building them

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up, taking on these projects whether it's passion projects, client projects, right.

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And then from there they have a hard time using their voice and putting it out there for the world.

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Can you give some advice to these people who do not understand or how to approach building

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confidence in their skills and putting their voice out there?

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Because making art is it's personal when you get to that when you're able to get to the point where

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you can dig deep and put it out there it's personal and putting yourself in a vulnerable state to let

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your work get critiqued. Can you give some actionable advice for these people?

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Yeah I think if you are if you find yourself without that confidence of

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creating maybe in front of individuals whether that be like you go out do some street photography,

505
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you're at a wedding, you're shooting portraits for a grad shoot. I've said this to a lot of people and

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my biggest teacher was all the not failures but lessons I've learned from doing it from putting

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in the work from putting in the sweat and tears and the hard work and the hard work and the hard

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and tears of you know going out to photograph something so putting in your reps just like

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you would at the gym. Put that same mindset to your photography or whatever skill you're trying to build

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00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:16,920
is let's say you don't have the confidence to go out in public go in your backyard go in your room

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take some self-portraits figure out all the nicks and crannies of your camera so whenever you're out

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you already have the confidence of being able to handle this camera and know all the ins and outs

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to apply whatever settings you need for a different environment. So I think if you build confidence in

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little aspects along your journey you'll come to learn that these little pieces of confidence you're

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getting let's say with exposure right go practice exposure for a week. Your shutter speed go practice

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that for another week and see what shutter does for your photos and when you put in those reps to

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all these little things they start building up and they're like they're teaching you like okay you

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know what you're doing now because you put in your reps you put in real world experience of all right

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00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,000
cool now I know what all these settings do all right cool now I want to get in front of the camera

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and pose you know whether it's self-portraits or whether you're doing it with a friend your sister

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your mom your dad your girlfriend your boyfriend whatever whatever the case may be is putting in

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the reps to these little small things that add up to give you that full circle of confidence that you

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need to share it online reach out to a client go shoot a wedding and not be nervous or stressed

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out as much so put in your reps in small things and you'll learn that once you build the confidence

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in that one topic you're trying to figure out move on to the next one build that confidence and it

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just starts piling it up that confidence just starts building and building and building because

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you've put in the reps to learn and not try and maybe cheat the system and and skip ahead and then

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fumble it and then that brings your confidence all the way down because you just fumbled it so

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slowly build your confidence and no one's going to be able to knock over your tower of confidence

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that you have because you've put in the hard work to make a strong foundation

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you made some really good points there and to conclude this to wrap all what you said

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I made a video just recently about keeping your promises to yourself and how that builds

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confidence in yourself and whatever skill you're trying to acquire and I heard someone say once

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about this creative industry building these skills you need to treat it like it's a sport

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train your skills hone it in fuel yourself practice these in order to build that confidence to put

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to go all in and this approach that you have going in your backyard refining your skills to go out

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in public and do this or to put yourself out there these are valuable tips and insights for all of

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those listening and speaking of valuable tips and insights Arturo 18 years old he's a professional

539
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Arturo 18 years old before he enlisted in the military young guy what would you tell

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this guy what would you tell young Arturo before the military would there be any advice that you

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might have for him I would like to say man that's hard that's a that's a very hard one I've had this

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you know I've had this thought before and you know what what could I say what could I do to help

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myself if I was younger the younger version of me and I would honestly just say if it doesn't put a

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smile on your face don't waste your time doing it don't waste your energy on it if this is something

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you go to sleep at or if you go to sleep at night and this is something you think about

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go do it go do it don't wait don't wait for someone don't wait for anybody to start because

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if you're waiting for someone to come along your journey to help you start this you're going to be

548
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:35,400
waiting forever unless you're taking the initiative and pretty much creating your own luck and putting

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01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:43,000
yourself in these situations where you got lucky you can stay home all day and think about it

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all day and think about what you could do or you can go out and do it and you'll slowly learn that

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the right people are going to join your journey and they're going to follow along or they're going

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to help you grow or you might join someone else's journey and help them along and you might end up

553
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leaving their journey and creating your own the biggest thing don't wait if you think about it

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01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:11,560
at night it's because you either want to do it or you're contemplating something but if it keeps you

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up by night then go full in don't don't half-ass anything go go all the way in and give it everything

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you got because the only thing you're going to regret is not going in a long time ago

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now that's a good deal if you're sleeping if you're thinking about it before you go to bed

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those of you listening just take action stop waiting last question of this podcast Arturo

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01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:47,720
2024 is here February is just about over what is the mindset that you're going to continue to take

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:02:02,440
on through the end of the year oh man I think that same advice I gave myself at 18 is put in the hard

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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:10,040
work go do it I might have to sacrifice some stuff this year but if that means being able to

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to kind of bring these other aspects that I want in my life and kind of nurture them and feed them

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and watch them grow I'm gonna have to make some sacrifices so I'm excited to dive in a lot more

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and experiment with the art factory and find different ways of connecting people

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:38,840
and the next big thing for us is photo walks doing photo walks for people bringing in a larger

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larger group of individuals together and having them create in a space together so

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yeah I'm excited to experiment this year with a lot of different things we have going on

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with the art factory and whether it's a hit or a miss we'll learn from it we'll grow from it

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and we'll keep moving forward but yeah I think the biggest thing this year is taking action

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in what we want and putting in the heart of work to get there great great answer great advice

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Arturo really appreciate you coming on man it's always a pleasure having to chat with you

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being able to chat with you I would discuss all these different topics always I'm a student myself

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and I like to get different people's perspectives of all these things because truly we don't know

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it all and for those listening where can they find Arturo on social media where can they find

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the social medias for Art Factory where can we go so for the Art Factory it's the T H E R A R T F T Y

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the Art Factory for my personal one underscore R T W O R O or T W R O W so R2RO just spelled

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like how you literally would say it R2 and then RO with that underscore in the front and then the

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website for the Art Factory the ArtFTY.com slowly switching over to YouTube so we'll hopefully be

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opening on YouTube same Instagram handle for the Art Factory that it is for YouTube but yeah that's

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usually the main platforms where I'm on TikTok here and there but a lot of my stuff is on Instagram

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for myself and the team and I'll link all of his information below whether it's on YouTube or it's

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in the streaming platforms again Arturo really appreciate you coming on man looking forward to

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chatting with you and seeing where you go in the future and I know we'll probably see each other

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again coming soon huh yes we'll see each other in hopefully September when we head back out to LA so

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I'm excited for that let's go man all right guys thanks for tuning in I'll catch you on the next

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one later and that concludes episode 26 man that was a good conversation I really enjoyed that one

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this is why I love having the podcast because you get to talk to real people have real conversations

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and if you want to find more about Arturo Carrillo I'll link all of his information down below his

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Instagram and his website I highly suggest you go follow him and support him and see what he's up

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to day to day he's got a lot of exciting things coming up thank you again for watching and if you

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with me it's @theNickAmp with much gratitude I appreciate you tuning in this episode and I'll

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