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It is Monday and you know what time it is.

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FRPC is on the air and we're talking football and our guys here.

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The Canadian bomber, the Canadian shot, the Canadian Bill Simmons.

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And for this podcast, the Canadian my Tomlin Nico, me to tell how was your weekend?

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Did you watch any March madness?

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Did your soon to be wife, Shannon, finish the Hogwarts game?

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I need a lot of details because I feel like I haven't caught up to you in about three

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or four days.

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Yeah, going on here at the house.

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What's up?

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Oh, I've been doing pretty well lately.

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Doing pretty well.

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I have had March madness on the TV nonstop over the last few days.

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This is my absolute favorite time of the sports calendar.

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And yes, yes, Shannon has finished up Hogwarts legacy.

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She's running around doing a few final touches on the game, but she's finished the main story

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now.

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And I have to say that I absolutely love the game as as did she.

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It's a wonderful adaptation of the world and it really makes you feel like you're a part

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of it.

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These are some of the conversations that we have offline.

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But I thought that we needed to bring it in the podcast for two reasons.

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One, I haven't talked to my guy in a while.

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And some of you know, I had a podcast that put out yesterday.

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Unfortunately, it is usually on Friday, but we put it out yesterday and it kind of capsulized

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what has been going on with me for like the last three or four days and decisions that

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are being made.

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But we are here Monday.

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And speaking of the madness, we have some madness in the NFL that we need to get.

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First thing that we need to talk about right now, and it's the elephant in the room literally

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and figuratively what do about Jalen Carter and defensive lineman from Georgia in his

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off the field situation, his pro day, his enormous talent that cannot be denied.

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What's our thoughts on him right now?

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What would you do with your big board right now with one Jalen Carter, which I'm a little

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sad that his last name is Carter?

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Oh, well, I think when you look at the Jalen Carter situation there, there, I feel like

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there's some level of less implied malice behind the what happened and the off the field issues.

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So I think there are teams that are going to look at it like a maturity issue rather

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than a bad guy issue that I'm not trying to judge it for myself.

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I don't know the man.

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He could be the greatest student in the world who made a mistake or he could be downright

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despicable.

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But I think that kind of parachutes his draft status a little more than other people we've

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seen in similar situations.

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I think he's going to fall.

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Beforehand, I was fairly convinced he'd be the first non quarterback off the board in

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the draft.

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But now I'm starting to look a little later in that top 10 for him.

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I'm wondering if perhaps when trading back, the Bears targeted that ninth pick as a spot

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that they thought they might still be able to get Jalen Carter and also acquire the windfall

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of draft assets they had incoming from Carolina.

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So currently I say I'm viewing the ninth pick as a bit of a floor for him.

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If he fell to 10 in Philadelphia, that would be absolutely insane, too.

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But that's around the range.

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I'm thinking we're going to be looking at Jalen Carter on draft day.

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So Jalen Carter has wowed us with his talent on the field.

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So impressive physically.

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And there's nothing that you can do with him on the defensive line.

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Here's my problem.

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Bro, you are entering your job interview and you're coming to the job interview in a disheveled

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suit.

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If that basically.

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And also it doesn't look like you kind of really want the job.

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Like stop eating cheeseburgers, bro.

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Nine pounds over your weight.

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The other deal is that he didn't even finish the proceedings on the pro day.

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Not a good look unless he has a promise in the draft.

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I don't know that to be true.

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I have not checked on it.

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I don't know if he just kind of I have a locked in spot.

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I don't know Chicago's that team.

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I don't know what the Raiders are that team.

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These are the type of guys that I start putting little check marks next and I go, this could

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go really well and somebody is going to have a steal or we are going to be talking about

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this guy two or three years from now and going, what a disappointment he has been.

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My question to you is.

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It's going to be culture if he flourishes, correct?

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It's going to be a facility that has a no nonsense tolerance for his type of behavior

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that he is shown over his years in Georgia because if we are thinking that this is the

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only incident, let me kind of run down some of the things I have heard.

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One late to meetings.

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Two late to practice.

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Three not showing a bunch of intensity in practice.

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Four multiple little skirmishes that have happened away from the team.

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I'm not saying he's a bad guy.

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I say he's young.

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But I'm wondering with all of that being said, Nico, what organization personally would you

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want Jaylen Clark to go to to really kind of put his career back on track?

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And I swear to God, if you say the Pittsburgh Steelers, we are going to have a problem.

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No, no, no.

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If you want to talk in terms of maturity, that would actually be playing with Cam Hayward

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would be great for him.

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However, I hear you got a little bit of madness on the mind there because you did say Jaylen

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Clark instead.

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Oh my God, I did.

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I went card or you did.

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Oh my God.

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Sorry.

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Hey, shout out to my guy who tore his Achilles.

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I am a UCLA fan, so therefore a clap all day.

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So yeah, Dalyl Carter.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm Paul.

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Yeah, no, it's all good.

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J. J. Lynn Carter.

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I haven't heard, obviously, as much of this stuff as you have on missing meetings and

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stuff.

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I've heard some people talk positively about him on that side here and there.

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But that being said, everyone wants to talk positively about their prospects at this time

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of year.

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I personally had dismissed the nine pounds overweight at the pro day a little more and

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being unable to finish the drills because of the legal situation that had came up at

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the same time.

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And the fact that he he'd actually been summoned to court and he'd been going through a lot

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of this that involved the death of his friend, even though the way Carter handled the situation

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was awful running away.

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Everything happened still.

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Can we give that a little background so everybody knows what we're talking about?

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OK, yeah, yeah.

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The situation that Jalen Carter got an arrest warrant issued for earlier this month was

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he was involved in a drag racing situation with another player on the team and also a

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member of the team staff.

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Something happened.

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The other member of this team staff ended up crashing and ultimately passing away.

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And Jalen Carter left the scene of the crime.

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He didn't.

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We no one knew until long after this is just now becoming public information.

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And all of this broke in the days leading up to his pro day.

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So I kind of had written that stuff off as someone dealing with serious mental trauma

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at the time, more so than the character issues of not wanting to to try hard.

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Because like as much as you talk about him off the field and not necessarily you, but

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I just as much as you can talk about Jalen Carter off the field and problems he might

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have in the locker room, when you watch him play, he looks like one of the hardest workers

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on the field.

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Even if he's like the run is to the opposite side, he's still working his ass off to make

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it through the block and just get himself into the head of that offensive lineman.

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So I feel like if you get him in the right situation with the right guy, maybe the Eagles

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alongside a guy like Fletcher Cox at 10 would be that perfect situation for him.

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And he'd also be next to a guy in Jordan Davis, who people say great things about off the

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field as well, and also went to Georgia.

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So there's familiarity there as well.

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I think if you're looking at it just as far as the best situation for him as a young man

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is concerned, I would say it's probably Philadelphia.

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I have a couple of things to say one, if you think you can get over on talent alone, you

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are wrong.

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He will have to work harder.

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This is a fact.

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And I need you to take this a little bit more seriously, Mr. Carter.

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Basically, I need you to take your, your now vocation because you're out of school now.

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You are a professional athlete.

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Take your job seriously.

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Now the one team I do not want him to go to and there were rumors and what have you.

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And I want to talk this out a little bit.

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The Las Vegas Raiders are sitting at seven.

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Now would he fit that defense?

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100%.

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Would he be the A typical Raider?

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Turns out to my guy, Jeff Levine, who is a Raider fan, he would be a phenomenal Raider

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because of all the stuff.

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Letting a young man with millions of dollars he has never seen before in Vegas does not

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seem like that would be a good idea.

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He will reference Henry rugs as a template for that situation.

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Also another guy who relied on his talent.

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Another guy who didn't like to practice.

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Another guy who had maybe some issues with his temper at the University of Alabama.

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I don't want him anywhere near Las Vegas at all.

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I just don't think it's the type of place for him, not just organizationally wise, but

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the city, just not the right for that city.

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I'm sorry.

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So yeah, I like Philadelphia, the team that I'm really interested in.

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And I want to get your thoughts because he hasn't done it in a while.

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And the last time he did do it, it was for Georgia player.

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Get your thoughts on the hoodie getting real froggy and trying to move up to get Jalen

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Clark or Jalen.

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Oh my God, Jalen Carter.

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It's that time of year madness.

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I'm telling you.

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I would, I would like it just in terms of player and fit.

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I'm not so sure it lines up perfectly on the, as far as team needs are concerned.

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I think they could use a few other guys, maybe even another receiver, despite the addition

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of Juju Smith this year.

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Don't reach for any of these guys.

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I don't think you necessarily have to reach.

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I think people, if they, if they sit where they are, there's going to be some solid players

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falling into their lap.

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Just just for me, if I'm at 14, I'm the GM, I'm making this call.

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There's not one wide receiver I'm drafting.

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Oh, I would.

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14.

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I would.

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If you're talking like 18, 18 now I'll draft.

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I would very easily take Zay Flowers at 14 and he is the exact type of guy who I think

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would fit perfectly into that New England system.

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He is an incredibly hard worker, great route runner and a guy who, when I turn on the film,

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obviously I'm not trying to say he's going to be this player and he doesn't have the

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strength that this guy has, but he reminds me a lot of Antonio Brown.

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He moves in the same way and beats people in the same way and does have levels of strength.

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It's just not a B level where you can throw a defensive back on his ass with one arm.

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I think that's the, in my opinion, the best receiver in this draft and I think it's an

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almost picture perfect fit for this team in New England, especially considering.

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We got good, we got good news.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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Hold the presses.

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Stop the presses right now.

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Okay.

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Zay Flowers out of Boston college is the number one wide receiver on your draft board.

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Oh yes.

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Yes sir.

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Yes.

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So let's, let's go here.

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Okay.

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We buried the lead.

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This is why pre-production is very important folks.

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This is why it's very important.

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Yes sir.

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Zay Flowers is a five foot nine, maybe five foot 10, what?

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180 at most.

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Combined weights, but he came in a bigger, a little bit bigger than was expected.

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Now Zay Flowers is a, is a monster route runner.

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He is very skilled and he gets in and out of his breaks.

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So it's, it's, it's not even.

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It's funny, but we've been hearing the gentleman out of TCU, Quinn Johnson.

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We've been hearing Addison out of USC.

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A lot of people like in Jigba from Ohio state, but people are really up and down.

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It fluctuates with him.

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They love him because the two Ohio state dudes that were there last year said he he's better

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than.

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He was better than both of them up until this year.

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He, he was like, if you look at where Garrett Wilson was as a sophomore versus where JSN

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was as a sophomore, it leaps and bounds.

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JSN was the better player.

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He was banged up a lot this year and he lost his job to the best college receiver I think

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I've ever seen in Marvin Harrison Jr.

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But he, he's still an incredibly talented player.

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I have questions with him on the top end speed.

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I don't think he can quite get there and he moving as more into more of a slot guy type

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situation.

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I I'm just not sure a guy who can only really be your slot full time is a guy I want to

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invest highly in.

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So you believe that Zay Flowers has the potential to be like a number one.

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I it's it's obviously hard to be your prototypical number one as a five nine slight receiver,

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but we're seeing more and more of it.

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Look at the receivers in Miami in Tyree, Kale and Jalen Waddle.

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He's not quite that fast for four to speed and he came in a little hair over five nine.

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But I, I think he can be almost that level of impact player.

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I think he's an incredible receiver.

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Now you know what this leads to, right?

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Nico for you more work, more work for you, Nico, because people are going to want to

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see like your top ten on your position boards.

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I know that the I will come up with it.

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We'll clamor for that.

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I know the people will clamor for that.

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Yeah, we'll we'll get that out sometime early, early April, I think something like that.

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Maybe the end of March.

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I want to move on and I want to talk about the Aaron Rodgers to the Jets and the hold

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up in a possible.

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Fix to this hold up.

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So what's your first thoughts on Aaron Rodgers, the compensation and why do you think this

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is taking this amount of time?

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We when we last talked about this, we weren't sure necessarily what the hold up was and

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we kicked around the idea of the compensation being part of the problem.

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But over this last week with Aaron Rodgers coming out, I've made my saying explicitly

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I've made my intentions clear and it's to play for the New York Jets.

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I think that's what the hold up is.

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The fact that Aaron Rodgers has came and said I want to play and I want to play for only

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this team has made the Jets say to the Packers, no, we're not giving you a first round pick.

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It's kind of similar to the situation a few years ago when Gronkowski came out of retirement

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and said I'm playing, but I'm only playing for Tampa Bay.

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So the Packers obviously are hesitant to move off a guy like Rodgers without receiving a

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first round pick in return and the Jets don't want to give away everything that they've

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built up.

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I think I've heard this idea kind of kicked around and honestly, I think eventually the

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landing spot is going to be something like this.

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A second round pick this year and then a second round pick next year that maybe has an option

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to become a first rounder depending on how far the Jets make it in the playoffs.

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Hypothetically, let's say if they make it to the AFC Championship game, it becomes a

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first round pick.

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Something like that I think is where we're going to land eventually, but the fact that

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we haven't landed there yet shows that either the Packers are pushing strongly for more.

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There's been rumors that have been disputed, but rumors that they're demanding Garrett

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Wilson in the deal.

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So if anything like that is going on, we might be sitting here for another two months.

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But what I think and hope is going to happen is probably a construction more like what

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we were originally talking.

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I have a thought.

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This is where I become we don't transfer some of this energy a little bit because I'm going

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to be a little bit more like Bill Simmons.

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What about option B staffer to the Jets?

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I think that's what the Jets maybe I'm not 100% sure it is necessarily Stafford, but

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be it Stafford, be it cousins, be it someone else along that line.

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I think that's why the Jets are holding strong right now with their unwillingness to move

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more and saying we'll just go in another direction.

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However, as we both know and acknowledge, getting Stafford and getting Aaron Rodgers

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are not the same thing for this organization.

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Rodgers would shoot them into an entirely new world and they've built the Rodgers offense

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already.

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They've got his receiver, they've got his offensive coordinator.

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They're probably working on acquiring Randall Cobb right now.

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This is the Aaron Rodgers system.

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As much as the Jets are currently trying to play this position like they could go multiple

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ways, they've backed themselves into a corner as well.

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Well, here's what I'll say about this particular situation.

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When you go to the Rolls Royce or exotic car dealership, you don't mess around with the

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price tag Woody Johnson.

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You just buy the item and be done with it.

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Now listen, I'm not saying give up five first round picks or what it would seem to be as

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a super haul for somebody 39 years of age, but he is a former MVP quarterback and we're

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talking about within the last couple of years, go ahead and give up the first round drought

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compensation.

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You're not going to pick anybody better than him in the draft.

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You know, so definitely not.

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Go ahead and get this deal done so that all of us can sleep better because I know that

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emergency pot is going to be hectic with the schedule that I currently have and what Nico

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currently has.

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Well, I think the argument to the contrary of that is if you're making the move to go

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all in for Rogers, you are putting yourself in a very short window.

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There can be arguments over whether it's two years, three years.

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I've even heard some people argue it's one year that he was looking at retiring this

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off season.

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Maybe he'll retire next off season.

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So if you're moving all of that for this very brief window, you kind of don't want to give

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up your other assets because you're going to need to add more to this squad around Aaron

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Rogers.

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This is a great defense last year.

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The offensive line was incredibly injured throughout the season.

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If Mackay Beckton has proven an inability to stay healthy at this point, which he has.

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So you kind of need to make sure everything is fortified to the level that it can get

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you a Super Bowl because that's what you're basically going all in for at this point.

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So I understand the hesitancy on the jet side a little more for that reason.

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There's a fix to this that everybody seems to not have come up with.

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If you are so worried about whether Rogers is going to be like a one year rental because

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he's going to go into his dark room at the end of the year and contemplate his mortality

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when it comes to NFL football, then just take the pit and move it back one year, just move

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it back to the to 24.

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Get your office alignment or whatever else that you have decided that you need as a quintessential

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piece to finish this team that looks like it would if everything goes the way it should.

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This team should compete for the AFC East.

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If everything goes right.

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Don't push the pick back a year instead of 2023, make it a 2024.

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And deal with it then if that's what you're trying to do, because I don't think that Green

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Bay lets them go without a first round pick.

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I just I don't see that.

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Yeah.

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And but I think that's what the conversation already is.

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As far as everything I've heard has not really involved this year's pick.

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It's been mostly around next year's.

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And I think more so they're worried about that maybe for future trades rather than the

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person they're going to select.

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What I thought you were going to say, and now I'm kind of kicking this idea around in

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my head a little bit more is what if the conditions on the first round pick for next year had

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to do with whether or not Rogers retires?

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Bingo.

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I think that might be the final thing to push us over the edge.

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And if anything's going to guarantee you safety, it would be that.

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This seems like a no brainer that they could work these type of verbiage into the contract.

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And I am shocked that the owner or someone who was it?

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Scott Douglas goes to Green Bay.

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Let's not talk to good because who's the president now?

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Who's president up there?

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Oh, I like Mike Thompson is somebody else's Murphy, right?

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I'll get you with the name.

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Go to Green Bay and go ahead and handle this and get this worked out.

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Stop wasting time and posturing.

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I understand that you don't want to get fleeced.

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That's very important.

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Mark Murphy.

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Murphy.

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Yeah.

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So Murphy and just sit down, have a conversation and get this done.

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Do not deal with Brian Gooden Kuss whatsoever.

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Because Gooden Kuss is hate trading right now.

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That's what he's doing.

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He's hate trading Aaron Rodgers.

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Because one, he understands that Jordan Love is now his quarterback.

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One, he just doesn't like Rodgers.

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He doesn't like him.

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He's going to try to get back as much as possible.

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I'm going to try to hurt Aaron Rodgers as much as I possibly can.

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To help him not be able to get to the Super Bowl, because that's the one thing that Brian

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Gooden Kuss cannot have is that dude goes to New York and wins the Super Bowl.

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Because you know what that means?

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He Aaron Rodgers was right.

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And Gooden Kuss cannot have that.

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Cannot.

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So that's my question.

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If for some reason this falls apart.

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Now like you said, you already made the statement.

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This team is set up for Aaron Rodgers.

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This would turn into being the same situation that Denver had last year.

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Basically, yeah.

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Because Denver believed in its heart that it had Aaron Rodgers.

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By the way, my high friends, I know this probably is like the first time you're hearing this.

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Maybe you heard some whispers or whatever, but there were long talks.

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Went down the road with Aaron Rodgers.

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Why do you think Hackett got the job?

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Yeah.

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I think that's been that's been kind of kicked around and reported at this point that they

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were zeroed in on Rodgers and ended up pivoting to Russ.

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And that was a monumental mistake because that team was set up for Rodgers and this

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team is set up for Rodgers.

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And listen, I'm not trying to trade Stafford.

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I love Stafford.

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He got us a Super Bowl, which I will always be grateful for because having luck, having

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the ramp in Los Angeles is a dream come true after them leaving, going to St. Louis.

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But a fifty seven million dollar contract.

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Shoulder and neck issues.

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And you know, this is the time to pivot if you can, because on the horizon is next year.

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Yeah.

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And next year.

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It's all about Caleb Williams.

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Next year is all about for the NFL.

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Caleb Williams, Derek May, the quarterback crew that is coming out next year.

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If we if you guys think you like this class, wait till next year because that class is

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better and it's better at the top end.

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And I think it has actually has more depth than this year's class.

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I think this year's class is fairly deep.

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I like the depth overall.

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That's because you like Anthony Richardson.

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Well, even like in Canada, when I start to think of depth, I think of like guys who are

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going to go outside the first round and like the the Hendon Hookers and Tanner McKees of

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the world.

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I think there's a few guys.

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I'm Malik Cunningham.

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There's a few guys later in the draft this year who are going to start games in the NFL

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at some point in their career.

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And that's just not normally a thing that happens just as long as not DTR.

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Yeah.

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Long as he doesn't start an NFL, we're good unless he's a running back or wide receiver.

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No, I think DTR is going to have a decently long career as a guy who comes on your practice

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squad to emulate Lamar Jackson the next week or whatever kind of quarterback you're going

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to be going up against.

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I think that's kind of like the floor for him, but he could work his way into being

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like a package backup of QB three.

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Yeah, decision making will have to get a lot better for that to happen in the NFL.

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I watched him for a long period of time.

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One of the reasons why I keep my hair short is because I don't want to have to pull it

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out.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't think you're going to really put him in positions where he's going to have

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to make any decisions inside the RPO unless he takes a monumental leap that we can't see

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coming.

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And speaking of uber athletic quarterbacks, the Lamar Jackson drama continues.

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This is as soap opera as all my children.

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What is it?

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What's the other one as a was it?

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They live.

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What about in the beautiful?

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Whatever you want to call this.

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We're starting to hear teams, thoughts on the teams that have kind of peeked his head

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out of the doorway and said, we might be in.

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Oh man.

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I we've already talked about hoodie in this podcast, but I'm just begging that he's not

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the guy who ends up making the move.

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That is the thing I stand most terrified of.

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And to be honest with this team, they're putting together clearly prioritizing run after catch

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players in juju, Mike, a sec.

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It kind of lines up nicely for someone like Lamar Jackson.

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So I feel like they might be in the conversations right now.

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And as I've said, since I first kicked around this idea a couple of months ago, that's the

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thing that terrifies me the most in my heart.

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The hoodie with Lamar Jackson.

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The only thing that will be greater for me personally, and it has nothing to do with

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my team per se, but it just has to do with the aesthetics.

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Could you imagine Lamar Jackson on Crenshaw Boulevard?

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Could you imagine Lamar Jackson on Martin Luther King Boulevard or Manchester?

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Could you imagine my boy rolling through Hoover?

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Could you imagine my guy running, rolling through south of Adams Boulevard in Los Angeles

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getting Tommy burgers, getting your fat burgers, getting so, you know, getting so getting all

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that going on, being straight hood.

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Oh man, I, I would love to see Lamar in LA just for the spectacle of it all.

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Back in the day, I used to, when we were still not sure what team was going to move to LA,

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:33,520
I used to always kick around that the Panthers would be the best team to move to LA because

477
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Cam Newton would have been such a star and Ron Rivera connecting with the Hispanic community

478
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,720
would have been an absolute home run for the situation.

479
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:47,120
Lamar Jackson, I think he captures some of that same energy.

480
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:54,400
I always have thought that the big reason there hasn't been the stronghold of football

481
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:01,120
in LA is because you haven't really had that dynamic guy to just take over the city in

482
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,760
the way someone like Kobe did or Magic back in the day.

483
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:13,840
And if you had a player like Lamar Jackson on the Rams, he could absolutely do that.

484
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:19,360
And we know what the mantra is by less need.

485
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,760
What is the mantra about picks when it comes to less need?

486
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,640
I don't curse on this podcast usually.

487
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,480
So I give it to my boy.

488
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Do not fucking matter one bit.

489
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,200
That's right.

490
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,120
After picks pretty much, we don't care.

491
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,280
Lamar Jackson in Los Angeles, by the way, we got a ton of soul food places that he can

492
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:46,640
grow up on, you know, I'm saying we can get them at the first any church, you know, I'm

493
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,560
saying we can get them up.

494
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,680
We can get him right up at the front with all the stars, magic, everybody.

495
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Yeah.

496
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,080
All the Vika a Fox.

497
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:04,280
He can be sitting right next to Vicka a Fox in first any church if he like.

498
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,960
We can make that happen for him.

499
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,880
No problem whatsoever.

500
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:19,240
And there is nobody in this world at this present time that I would want as a quarterback

501
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:23,080
in Inglewood, California.

502
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,920
The only reason I say it like that is if you grow, if you grew up here, you understand

503
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,240
what Inglewood really is.

504
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:39,040
There is nobody who fits Inglewood more at this present time than Lamar Jackson.

505
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:45,680
We lost our guy, Jaylen Ramsey, because that was our street cred guy.

506
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:52,080
Lamar Jackson would take that mantle and then bring it to new heights because that's my

507
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,400
dude.

508
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,280
I want him to stay 100 percent authentic the way he is.

509
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:05,800
And I'm looking forward to seeing who actually is going to go out and make that leap for

510
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,800
him.

511
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,440
Now, we we tease about the Inglewood and Los Angeles and whatever.

512
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,040
And we talked about New England.

513
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,840
Now, my question to you is, is that we talked about this the last time I believe that you

514
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160
are on the pod.

515
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,220
We have like six, seven quarterbacks.

516
00:40:21,220 --> 00:40:28,240
If that is difference makers in the NFL, we have 32 teams that leaves us with 26 to 20

517
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:34,000
player teams who have quarterbacks, but obviously are not Lamar Jackson.

518
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:40,440
I understand that you have to build the fit around him.

519
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,400
Is it that hard?

520
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,960
Is it really that hard?

521
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,480
Like if you I don't know.

522
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,360
I mean, obviously the.

523
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:57,960
The San Francisco offense might not be what he needs, but is it really hard to build around

524
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,720
him if you have a good offensive line?

525
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,240
I I don't think so.

526
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,720
And he could work great in San Francisco even.

527
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,600
I.

528
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,840
I think the Ravens thought it was very hard to build around Lamar Jackson.

529
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,360
And I think early in his career, that was true.

530
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,080
But we've seen him develop as a thrower of the football.

531
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,320
And now he can actually do that, let him do that.

532
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Like that, I think a West Coast system where he has some easy reads, he can maybe throw

533
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:40,680
to people in similar ways to how he was throwing to Mark Andrews or even a guy like James Proche,

534
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:47,320
who came close to the line and they had some some chemistry there.

535
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:55,600
I think he can continue to succeed so long as you just have a check down valve for him

536
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,080
when the things aren't going properly.

537
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,200
And you don't need to run the ball with him as much as Baltimore did.

538
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:12,320
You can let him be Mike Vick or RG 3 where all the runs are just they happen because

539
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,320
they happen.

540
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,720
And he's going to make big plays on on situations like that.

541
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,560
So I think.

542
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,040
Like multiple teams could make a guy like Lamar Jackson with work.

543
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,800
They just need to be willing to try new things with him that he hasn't necessarily tried

544
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,120
before it maybe work out some of those kicks.

545
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:42,040
Yeah, I just I'm very confused.

546
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:49,000
A a talent like this has come on to the market and we are not hearing people like step on

547
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,160
other people to get to him.

548
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,480
Now I understand that is a cat and mouse game that is being played.

549
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,680
You don't want to.

550
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,400
Show your hand, so to speak, and put things out there.

551
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,040
But if you're a team that's pretty much right there.

552
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,200
Why would you not go out and get a quarterback?

553
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,280
And here's the thing.

554
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,800
It's not like you're going out and getting Aaron Rodgers.

555
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,000
Who might be a two year deal.

556
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,200
Three year deal if you're if you're really, really optimistic.

557
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:31,340
Lamar, I mean, other than injury, catastrophic injury, which will create a guy right now,

558
00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:34,880
we do not want that to happen to Lamar Jackson.

559
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:41,640
But he's 26, 26 years old.

560
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,440
The only thing that I can think.

561
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:55,080
That is the hold up is the little dirty secret that only it seems like me is holding on to.

562
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,320
Because I still question the accuracy.

563
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:06,560
But the problem is, is that the data the last two years is incomplete because Baltimore

564
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,400
hasn't put anything around him.

565
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:14,360
So now I'm at a point where I can't grade him, can't grade him because he has nothing

566
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,760
really around him except Mark Andrews.

567
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,840
And that's not sufficient enough for a top in quarterback.

568
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,460
To really show what he can do.

569
00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:29,500
So please put something around him and allow him to flourish.

570
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:37,160
That would be my hope if he stayed in Baltimore, which I do not think will happen whatsoever.

571
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,080
I will go ahead and still say that that.

572
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,400
I do not believe that Lamar will end up in a Baltimore uniform.

573
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,280
If he does, I will come back on this pot and say I was wrong.

574
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,440
And do the meat and cocoa.

575
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,600
But I don't think that's going to be the case.

576
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,840
Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with that.

577
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,240
And I had a hard time pulling up the stat quickly.

578
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:10,560
But I'm pretty sure Lamar has been near the league lead over the past five years in dropped

579
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,740
passes as on top of everything else.

580
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:21,020
So even when the accuracy is working, he just has the players throw it on the ground.

581
00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:23,520
So he can't really build that rhythm.

582
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:29,440
And we see him in a new offense that's kind of getting him going in the way you treat

583
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,280
normal quarterbacks.

584
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,280
I think it's it'll be different in that category.

585
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,280
Swipping topics.

586
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:45,120
One real quick thing, because I know you have a Pittsburgh thing that you want to get to.

587
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,920
So I want to go back a little bit, Nico.

588
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,920
Yeah.

589
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,760
I remember maybe maybe about five, six years ago, maybe a little bit longer.

590
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,000
There was a gentleman who was drafted and he was going to get drafted early.

591
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,800
Then a video surfaced.

592
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,800
Yeah.

593
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:14,320
And my man was higher, not than a kite, but then our our space station.

594
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,320
In outer space.

595
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,320
All right.

596
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,160
The International Space Station.

597
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:24,040
So now my man just received 50 million dollars guaranteed.

598
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,280
Yes.

599
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,520
And he's doing something really smart.

600
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,880
He's not signing long term contracts.

601
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,480
It's two and three year deals.

602
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,520
And let's get out and get more money.

603
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:41,800
He is pushing the AAV for offensive linemen to new heights.

604
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:50,160
I want your thoughts on Larry Mead Tunsel becoming the LeBron James of the NFL.

605
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:57,440
That that is a decent comparison, actually, obviously not as players, but just in terms

606
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,640
of what LeBron did for contracts for elite players in the league.

607
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:08,120
I think that's definitely also true for for Laramie.

608
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:14,120
Her cousins tried to do it, but didn't didn't work too well for him.

609
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:20,000
He's a very good player, especially when he gets the the penalties under control.

610
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Sometimes he has that problem, but he's one of the best tackles in the sport.

611
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:30,640
I'm really happy that the Texans kept him because there were a lot of rumors that they

612
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,440
were going to ship him off somewhere else after trading so much to get him in the first

613
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,680
place and you're about to bring in a brand new quarterback and you're trading away your

614
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,080
franchise left tackle.

615
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,480
That didn't make any sense to me.

616
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:54,760
I think I'm really happy for Laramie Tunsel being in such a good spot after such an awful

617
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,400
thing happened to him on draft day.

618
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:04,440
It also broke on draft day that he took money to play at Ole Miss, that some person in his

619
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:11,920
life he pissed off, I guess, and started leaking all the information about him.

620
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:20,440
I remember hearing that gas mask video that eventually came out was from like four years

621
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,000
before his draft situation.

622
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:30,440
He was like a 17 year old kid in the video and that it was always awful that that happened

623
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:36,120
and especially the way the NFL treated the situation with Roger Goodell being like, oh,

624
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,720
that's why the draft's exciting.

625
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:46,000
So to see Tunsel be making so much money at this point and be in such a power position

626
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,960
in the league, it's something that warms my heart.

627
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:56,160
I think it was really smart for them to lock him up, especially now.

628
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,240
Especially now.

629
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,680
You're about to go get a quarterback.

630
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,680
You can't be playing around.

631
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,960
You can't be playing around with that.

632
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Lock that dude in for sure.

633
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:15,560
And I just love the move, how he's doing it.

634
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:22,120
I thought it was interesting because the only reason we talk about Laramie Tunsel usually

635
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:29,520
is the draft picks and the compensation that, you know, that Miami got for him.

636
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,080
You know what I'm saying?

637
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:39,640
And now you're looking at him in a completely different light and there are offensive linemen

638
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:47,520
who are now in middle school who are going to be looking back at this situation going,

639
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:56,800
I would like to thank Mr. Tunsel for allowing my family to have generational wealth.

640
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,720
And he was a true pioneer for us.

641
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:00,720
So I'd like to thank him.

642
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,400
I can't wait for that.

643
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:13,120
That Larry Matunsel is going to be kind of like the new version of the Underground Railroad

644
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,280
to offensive linemen getting paid.

645
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,440
Very, very exciting.

646
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:26,520
Yeah, I'm super happy with basically the whole way that situation unfolded.

647
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,240
It seemed like it was going to be something sinister.

648
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:37,160
And especially considering the Texans organization has some pretty black marks on them recently.

649
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:44,520
So to see them get something like this right was something that made me happy.

650
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,200
Yeah, they've had a rough go a little bit lately.

651
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,960
You had some information about the Pittsburgh Steelers.

652
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Everybody drink.

653
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,960
Oh, yeah.

654
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:06,600
My mother, who is wrecking comfortably in the hospital, dealing with all myriad of elements.

655
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,080
So this is going to help her.

656
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,080
What do you got on the Pittsburgh Steelers?

657
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:20,320
I came into free agency and how it kicked off with the whole Kam Sutton, Patrick Peterson

658
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,320
thing.

659
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:30,600
Pretty disappointed with the way this new organization was starting to handle things.

660
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:38,320
The first thing that set off alarm bells in my head is this stat that I didn't immediately

661
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,080
know but I knew in my heart.

662
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:49,560
During the entire Kevin Colbert era, he never once gave a multi-year deal to outside free

663
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,120
agent over 30 years old.

664
00:51:53,120 --> 00:52:01,840
And the literal first signing Omar Khan made was a multi-year deal to 32-year-old Patrick

665
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,240
Peterson.

666
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:09,040
And that had me instantly nervous that this organization was going to completely change

667
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,040
the way they were doing business.

668
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:20,760
But then every move that followed since then, he's been targeting young free agents, 26-year-old

669
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:27,800
guys, giving a guy like Cole Holcomb, a solid middle linebacker for Washington who's coming

670
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:35,820
to Pittsburgh, a three-year deal, giving Nate Herbig a three-year deal, who I'm over the

671
00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:44,880
moon about the Herbigs signing, but even going forward bringing in Isaac Simalu, there is

672
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:56,880
a clear emphasis on this team on getting stronger in the front seven and on defense, also including

673
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:04,280
Landon Roberts there, and on offense having those maulers on the offensive line, similar

674
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,200
to what they had in Philadelphia.

675
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,200
And I couldn't be happier about that.

676
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:15,600
That is the exact way I think you need to build a football team is through the trenches.

677
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:22,080
I was curious to see what role Andy Weidl truly had on the Steelers.

678
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,680
And clearly the influence is huge, because they're going to get his guys, his type of

679
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:34,000
dudes that haven't necessarily been the Steelers type of dudes historically.

680
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:42,400
So we're in a spot where I am now incredibly excited about the Omar Khan era, where only

681
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,160
like two weeks ago I was sitting nervously.

682
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:55,200
And as you're optimistic about the Omar Khan era, I am less optimistic about the less need

683
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,200
era.

684
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Oh, and I'll put it to you this way.

685
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,280
The games is gone.

686
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Yeah, A'Shaun Robinson is leaving right out the door as well.

687
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,120
I will I packed the bags of Taylor route.

688
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,680
That's why you and I haven't talked over the last four or five days.

689
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,200
I packed his bags for him.

690
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,120
I did all the boxes.

691
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:27,480
I put all the newspaper inside the stemware and everything for him.

692
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:33,000
I couldn't get Taylor out of town quick enough for me.

693
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:46,560
But are the defections off the defensive line are alarming to me because there hasn't been

694
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,840
any coming in.

695
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,280
Nothing.

696
00:54:51,280 --> 00:55:00,440
We have literally we have no defense line at this point except for Andon.

697
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:07,160
And I have no idea what the move is unless you're telling me that we're stripping it

698
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,160
down.

699
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,280
Then if we are stripping it down, we need to get rid of Matthew Stafford.

700
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:20,180
If we're stripping this down, let's go ahead as aggressive as we were about F2Pix.

701
00:55:20,180 --> 00:55:28,320
We need to be as aggressive as aggressive about re acquiring picks and building this

702
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,800
team.

703
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,320
I don't know what we're doing.

704
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,160
I'm actually in one way, I'm kind of.

705
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:43,960
I'm OK with it because those guys did not provide the physicality that I would enjoy.

706
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,160
I long for the days of Michael Brokers.

707
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,080
Shout out to my guy.

708
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,120
Really underrated player Michael Brokers.

709
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,080
I love Michael Brokers.

710
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,040
But is this a draft deal?

711
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:08,160
Is this a because I haven't heard anything why this is the pivot for the Rams.

712
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:15,840
What's your thoughts on the lack of defensive line, the Exodus and also not acquiring defensive

713
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,360
line via free agency?

714
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,720
What's your thoughts?

715
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:27,040
I'm really curious if the Exodus has started.

716
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:37,160
It seems like you're kind of tiptoeing around it at this point and unafraid or sitting a

717
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,680
little afraid to make that Stafford move.

718
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:48,360
That being said, I'm not sure what situation Stafford would just slide into easily right

719
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,200
now unless that Jets thing changes.

720
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,460
There's a ton of teams that he would slide into because I'm going to tell you right now,

721
00:56:57,460 --> 00:57:04,320
if Tennessee, who I do like the feeling signing, they're definitely they're cutting everyone.

722
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,560
They're bottoming out with all the power in their body.

723
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:17,640
I think Tennessee, I'm pretty convinced they're in the Caleb Williams lottery next year.

724
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,880
Well, I'll tell you this.

725
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,440
I don't know for certain.

726
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,640
I don't.

727
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:34,000
And we are not that far away from it, but I'm just I'll just throw this little nugget

728
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,860
out there.

729
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:45,760
The whispers of trading Aaron Donald during the draft will get larger.

730
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:59,160
So you know, Aaron Donald is a prime candidate for a draft day trade.

731
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:04,800
That would be a go ahead and say you heard it from your boy.

732
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,360
And listen, I'm not trying to break news.

733
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,360
This is me reading the tea leaves.

734
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,560
This that's what it is.

735
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,560
It is.

736
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,440
There is no real evidence.

737
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:22,000
I haven't talked to anybody, but I do believe that as we get closer to this draft, I am

738
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,520
starting to think that Aaron Donald will no longer be a Los Angeles round.

739
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,360
And that will start the rebuild.

740
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,640
That will be the seminal piece that starts it.

741
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,360
That would absolutely start the rebuild if if that's truly happening.

742
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:48,280
I would love to throw Pittsburgh's hat in the ring.

743
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,920
I you don't want to give me a first round paper.

744
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,920
I don't want to.

745
00:58:53,920 --> 00:59:02,660
I don't want to stay over there in Pittsburgh or Edmonton or whatever that little data.

746
00:59:02,660 --> 00:59:03,660
What is it?

747
00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:06,960
The fast train, the bullet train that goes from Edmonton to Pittsburgh?

748
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,440
Yeah, that one.

749
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,440
That train.

750
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,480
You can stay on that train.

751
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,520
I need.

752
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,640
Ah, me.

753
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,880
I don't want to give my first round pick this year.

754
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,480
I know I might be I might be able to be talking into it.

755
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,480
I don't know.

756
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,120
The more the more I think about it, the more I think of it as a possibility.

757
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,520
But I have a trade partner for you.

758
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,760
OK.

759
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,200
I'm here for it.

760
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:42,400
We've done a lot of dealings with the Detroit Lions.

761
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:48,880
People remember the staffer deal, but Michael Brockers also went over to that.

762
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,520
Now it was viral, like free agency or whatever.

763
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:56,120
But they had that talk before beforehand.

764
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:03,080
So my thought is a team that is on the rise, a team that is young.

765
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,680
Yeah, they're missing the quarterback.

766
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:14,400
They're not the only team that's star chasing defensive people.

767
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,920
But they are a candidate.

768
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,360
The other team that I want to deal with, just so you know, and this starts my campaign on

769
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,960
Jerry Jones today.

770
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,680
I told you it was coming.

771
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:31,600
Yeah, I would like to get that person in a room.

772
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,600
He loves stars.

773
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,600
He loves them.

774
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,160
He loves them a lot.

775
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,440
You'd move heaven and earth for Aaron Donald.

776
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,560
I believe it.

777
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,560
Is there any way we can get that old man?

778
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,000
Who loves talking on the radio?

779
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:51,160
In selling his team and trust the star and we built Jerry's world and all this other

780
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,160
stuff.

781
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Can we get that guy in a room?

782
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,800
Without Steven, without anybody else.

783
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:06,080
Hey, yo, Aaron Donald, what can we get the Herschel boss to trade?

784
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,080
Can we run that back?

785
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,080
No, no, no.

786
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,080
No, no.

787
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,120
Run that back the other way for us.

788
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,480
You know what I'm saying?

789
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:19,920
That's what I'm looking for, because that dude right there, that's the that's the linchpin

790
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,360
that you betrayed.

791
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,360
That's the dream.

792
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,120
I don't think you can get him in a room without Steven anymore.

793
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:33,400
Unfortunately, I don't think they let him out of the building that had a doubt about

794
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:42,720
the Johnny Manziel thing to day is the most compelling story.

795
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,600
I have heard on a draft day situation.

796
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,440
Do you have you heard this?

797
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,240
Yeah, I've heard it, but tell the listeners.

798
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,120
OK, so we are.

799
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,120
Back to a time where Johnny Manziel was relevant.

800
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,680
He was at Texas A&M.

801
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:03,760
They were calling him Johnny Football and he was just an absolute stud in a certified

802
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,520
jeep.

803
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,520
No question.

804
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,780
Shots out to Enzo Amore.

805
01:02:09,780 --> 01:02:19,080
With that being said, Johnny Manziel is going in the draft and there is a story out there

806
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:26,840
that Jerry Jones, they had to literally take the phone out of his hand.

807
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,960
Snatch it.

808
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,640
Because he was going to put in the Johnny Manziel thing.

809
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,880
They literally had to get him out of the room.

810
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,720
And if you remember that draft, who did they draft?

811
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,720
It was Frederick, right?

812
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:41,720
It was a center.

813
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,720
Yeah, it was Frederick, right?

814
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,600
And at the time, right?

815
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,840
Yeah, at that time, people thought it was a huge reach and it wasn't.

816
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,000
But you know what would have been a really big mistake?

817
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,360
Drafting Johnny Manziel.

818
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,280
Yeah, into Dallas.

819
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,120
With all the issues that he has.

820
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,960
That would have been awesome.

821
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,040
So I'm hoping to get the same guy.

822
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,960
In a room and say, here's Manudonnell.

823
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,440
Here you go, buddy.

824
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:12,440
Here you go.

825
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,440
What's up?

826
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,440
What's up?

827
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:20,240
What can you give us for it?

828
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,240
But those are my thoughts.

829
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,680
That's what my thought is that I believe that at the end of the day, as we get closer to

830
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:36,240
this draft, I believe that the Rams may have a first round pick.

831
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,480
That would be ideal.

832
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,240
I think that's the direction the organization should move.

833
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:47,600
I just I've got a feeling they'll be a little more hesitant.

834
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,080
Now staying in Texas, I want to hit you with a couple more things.

835
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,400
OK, what's our policy on drafting running backs in the first round?

836
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:56,960
Niko, don't do it.

837
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,960
All right.

838
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:03,680
It is a try and true mode of thinking.

839
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,680
OK, now we didn't get this out of thin air.

840
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,160
This is something that we have calibrated.

841
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,040
This is something that we have put deep thought into.

842
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:21,880
This is something that we submitted a thesis to the Sloan conference to.

843
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,120
All right.

844
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,800
B John Robinson is going to get drafted in the first round.

845
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:29,800
He's going to.

846
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:30,800
Yeah.

847
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:31,800
Oh, yeah.

848
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,800
OK.

849
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,800
Even then, the top 10.

850
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:34,800
Yeah.

851
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,160
Now we're here.

852
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,160
We're at this point.

853
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:44,280
Are we starting to see a shift in thinking about drafting running backs in the first

854
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:52,720
round because of the necessary skill set that they provide in the passing gang?

855
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,600
Also.

856
01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:02,600
Past protection of the ability to get yards after the catch yards after the first initial

857
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,040
contact.

858
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:13,600
What's your thoughts on B John Robinson being the I guess.

859
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,680
What patient zero of this new new deal?

860
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,000
I don't.

861
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:28,280
To me, it's kind of cyclical with running backs like we have a few years.

862
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,320
We'll have a great guy like B John come in the class.

863
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,120
And then all of back in the day, it was Todd Gurley.

864
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:42,800
Todd Gurley came into the class and then everyone knew you need to take Todd Gurley in the first

865
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,280
if you want to get Todd Gurley.

866
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,880
Huge mistake with him.

867
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,560
I will tell you personally, I wouldn't have done that.

868
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:57,080
Yeah, I think I because I think the injuries before.

869
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,360
Yeah.

870
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:05,880
But I think that we're going to see B John go up high.

871
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:13,160
I also have a feeling we might see a guy like Jameer Gibbs get drafted in round one towards

872
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,760
the back half.

873
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:25,560
But I think it's going to probably lead to a few more years of guys taking the running

874
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,440
back of the day up high.

875
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,360
And some of those guys are going to be bussed.

876
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,960
Some of those guys are going to be hit.

877
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:40,840
Maybe with some luck, we'll get another Saquon Barkley mixed in there.

878
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:47,720
But eventually, there's going to be more wrong selections at the running back position than

879
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,600
right ones.

880
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,720
And teams are going to come back around to not selecting running backs in the first round.

881
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:59,040
And then we'll have a few years without any running backs in the first round.

882
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:05,560
And it just seems to repeat and repeat and repeat like this over and over.

883
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:13,000
And I'm expecting something similar to end up happening here.

884
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,520
We'll see B John go in the first and maybe a few more.

885
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:22,520
But I just still think it's a bad idea.

886
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:27,960
So if if there were a running back to make me change my mind, B John would probably be

887
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,240
that guy.

888
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,520
Niko, I have a theory that I want to run past you.

889
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,000
I put a lot of thought into this.

890
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:44,680
I had to open the Diet Coke to because there's a lot of gravity to the situation.

891
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:53,680
I believe that running the numbers in I test and just kind of looking at football as a

892
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,680
whole.

893
01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:04,360
I think we've hit a a new like development in football.

894
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:10,000
The defenses are allowing offenses to go from the 20 to the 20 as easy as possible.

895
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,640
Do whatever the hell you want.

896
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,720
So what we're going to do is we're going to stop you in the red zone.

897
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,520
The adjustment to that.

898
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:27,400
All these itty bitty linebackers that you have in your front seven, we're going to get

899
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,900
a physical running back.

900
01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:36,240
And now I think we're going to see a shift from I'm not saying that quarterback will

901
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,760
never it's always the most important position.

902
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:48,280
And I think there will be an emphasis on running backs who can find the end zone in multiple

903
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,280
ways.

904
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,920
You can't be just a running back.

905
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,160
Get the catch it.

906
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,880
Get sweet.

907
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,320
Maybe you can do some wildcat, whatever.

908
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:06,760
But if you show that in your college tape, the offensive needs something because we saw

909
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:07,760
it this year.

910
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:08,760
Yeah.

911
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,440
The red zone efficiency this year went down because defense are loading up.

912
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:19,000
They have a they have a 12 defender on the back end, which is the out of bounds.

913
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,160
And there's not a lot of room to navigate.

914
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,440
So you have to be more creative.

915
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:27,000
You know how you can checkmate that situation.

916
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:32,880
You get a running back that you can guarantee yourself some end zone touches.

917
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:39,480
That might be the key to springing some of these offenses in some of the red zone inefficiency

918
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:41,760
that we saw last year.

919
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:46,960
I I could see parts of that.

920
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:55,720
The more I the way I look at it more is we're in as everyone likes to say the cliche a copycat

921
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,600
league.

922
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:04,880
Last year, the team that we saw that was consistently successful in the red zone and in short yardage

923
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,960
situation was the Philadelphia Eagles.

924
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:14,360
The weather they did the push that everyone gets mad about or not.

925
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,360
They were in the way.

926
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,360
You're mad about that.

927
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,240
And I'm sorry to cut you off, Nico.

928
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:26,200
If you're mad about that, think you got a problem because here's the thing.

929
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,960
Everybody wants an edge in your dress.

930
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,160
They just found the right guy.

931
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:38,360
Who squat six hundred pounds as a quarter.

932
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,360
Yes.

933
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:45,880
And they found those maulers along the offensive line who are going to push the defensive line

934
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,440
out of there.

935
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:53,600
And I think that's more of the direction it's going for the short yardage game is just getting

936
01:10:53,600 --> 01:11:02,560
these mammoths up front and having an athletic quarterback who can provide your defense some

937
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:09,880
duality over the RPO game out of the play action game and just leave the defense kind

938
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:10,880
of guessing.

939
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:16,360
I think we're going to see more of a shift in that direction rather than going for these

940
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:23,240
running backs in the first round because the running backs worthy of it are just so rare.

941
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,320
We there's like one safe one.

942
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:27,320
Blarkly.

943
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:33,840
We've seen guys like Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette go in the first round and play really

944
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,120
well but just burn out quickly.

945
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:42,760
And I think we're going to probably repeatedly see that with running backs, especially with

946
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,720
the way the games played today.

947
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,880
The one other thing that I will rebut on that is this.

948
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,880
Keeping your quarterback healthy is the number one priority.

949
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:02,360
If we can take a couple hits away from him again by giving it to the running back in

950
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:07,360
those tight situations in the red zone.

951
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:15,780
And if you accumulate that over a 17 game plus playoffs plus they don't play in the

952
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:17,440
preseason whatsoever anymore.

953
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:18,680
So don't worry about that.

954
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:28,520
But if you can cut those hits down even three hits a game.

955
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:34,600
That's 50 what 51 less hits in a regular season.

956
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,680
That's that's significant to a quarterback.

957
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:46,040
And what's the most disposable position in the NFL?

958
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,280
The running back.

959
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:56,680
So if you can get a running back who is disposable and we have said many a time to each other

960
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,760
and on different platforms on different podcasts.

961
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,240
By the way this is our first journey down the podcast road.

962
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:09,400
We are glad that you guys are here but this is not our first journey down it.

963
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,000
That you can find a running back in the third round.

964
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:18,160
But some guys are worthy of a first round pick because they have a nose for the end

965
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:25,460
zone and they can be instrumental in the red zone efficiency game.

966
01:13:25,460 --> 01:13:28,200
And that's what I'm thinking that we're going to see.

967
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:41,560
I wonder if the guy who is 6 to 220 pounds who is flying around as a linebacker.

968
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:51,600
He doesn't get enough money and your career is so much shorter at the running back position.

969
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:56,160
These elite athletes just don't play the running back position anymore.

970
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,440
They move to the defensive side of the ball.

971
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:00,680
Some of them even move to the offensive line.

972
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,680
We've seen guys become if you're taller you can become a tight end.

973
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:10,180
There's more positions for you to play that are going to lead to more money for you long

974
01:14:10,180 --> 01:14:13,360
term than the running back position.

975
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:18,360
That's probably the biggest problem and the reason why we don't really have those elite

976
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,800
running backs anymore.

977
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:29,480
It's really only a certain body type that if you're like 5'8 to 5'11 and you're around

978
01:14:29,480 --> 01:14:37,520
that 200 to 230 pound range you can basically only play the running back position.

979
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:44,400
Those guys repeatedly play the running back position and we've seen elite players come

980
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,780
out of that build.

981
01:14:46,780 --> 01:14:53,480
You're not going to see these game changers at the same rate anymore.

982
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:58,760
I would be honestly more willing to just throw a 5th round pick at the running back position

983
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:04,480
every single year hoping I get a hit once if I don't dispose them.

984
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:08,120
That's a 5th round pick doesn't really matter.

985
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,280
I like that.

986
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:10,760
I believe in that.

987
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:20,320
I was just trying to see if there was a way that we can help this slight, slight dip in

988
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,760
the red zone efficiency.

989
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:31,200
I think there's a niche opportunity for somebody.

990
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:36,960
B. John is the guy who turns the running back position around.

991
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,960
I don't know.

992
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:38,960
I don't think so.

993
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,160
I think we are in a passing league.

994
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:41,800
I think this is where we're going.

995
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,840
But teams want to win.

996
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,920
You're right.

997
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,960
The quarterback being up at the line pushing, getting the yard, getting a couple yards.

998
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,080
I mean in Philadelphia case they get six yards when that happens.

999
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:01,400
They just got nothing but road graders and mallards up there.

1000
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:08,080
Everybody's an animal and the biggest animal is probably the smallest guy, which is Kelsey.

1001
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,760
Yeah, he's the absolute beast.

1002
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,240
What is he like 35?

1003
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,280
Yeah, he's up there.

1004
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,680
I thought he might retire after this year.

1005
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:22,840
I wonder if they would have won the Super Bowl if he would have hung it up.

1006
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:23,840
Maybe.

1007
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,880
Yeah, but I am.

1008
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:38,840
I'm looking at that as maybe a different alternative to finding a quarterback that squats 600 pounds.

1009
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:46,320
Yeah, I'm wondering if you can run probably not the same thing as effectively, but if

1010
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:56,520
you can run a similar thing with a lesser sized quarterback because I know after acquiring

1011
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:01,420
two of those very same road graders off that Philadelphia team, the Pittsburgh Steelers

1012
01:17:01,420 --> 01:17:03,760
are going to try the QB push this year.

1013
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,480
It's going to happen.

1014
01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:07,080
It's going to be worked into the offense.

1015
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:13,280
So we're going to see if you can have some level of success.

1016
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,640
You're not going to have the same level of success, but if you can have some level of

1017
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:21,960
success with a small guy like Kenny Pickett, which is basically like the polar opposite

1018
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,680
in just like build to a guy like Jalen Hertz.

1019
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:32,720
Yeah, it will be interesting to see if this becomes such a trend in the NFL that everybody

1020
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,520
just starts doing it.

1021
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,960
Brady was the first one.

1022
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,080
He was like really the first one to kind of really perfect it.

1023
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:50,200
But her taking it to such a level, taking it to a level that is, oh no, this can be

1024
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,560
part of the offense.

1025
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:58,000
This is if we really wanted to, we could run this on first down and get five, six yards.

1026
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,760
And now we're at second and four.

1027
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,760
Now nobody wants to see that.

1028
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,880
They want to see the ball flying in the air and whatever.

1029
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:10,000
But I'm going to tell you a guy who doesn't care what the fans think, what the audience

1030
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,720
thinks, what TV thinks.

1031
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:19,560
If Bill Belichick thought that he can get five, six yards on first down doing that.

1032
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:20,560
He would do it.

1033
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,400
And he doesn't care about the game.

1034
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,240
He doesn't care about the quality of the game.

1035
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,740
He doesn't care about any of that.

1036
01:18:27,740 --> 01:18:30,640
These football coaches want to win.

1037
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:35,560
The one thing we know about the NFL, because we've been saying it forever, shots out to

1038
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,640
Jerry Glanville, who was the one who kind of coined this phrase.

1039
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:46,520
So we going back, by the way, for the kids who are listening to this podcast and do not

1040
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,400
know who Jerry Glanville is.

1041
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,760
He said the NFL stands for not for long.

1042
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:59,540
So your job is dependent on how successful you are.

1043
01:18:59,540 --> 01:19:02,680
And I don't care how I win.

1044
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:03,680
You see what I'm talking about?

1045
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,360
I don't need credit.

1046
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,920
I don't need to be the smartest guy in the room.

1047
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,460
I just want to win.

1048
01:19:10,460 --> 01:19:13,840
So if you're telling me on first down, I'm guaranteed five yards.

1049
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,880
If I run this play, I'm gonna do it.

1050
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:17,880
Yeah.

1051
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,480
I'm running on second, third, fourth.

1052
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:22,880
I couldn't agree more.

1053
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,960
I don't need to listen.

1054
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:29,000
We saw teams last year throw the full football nine times.

1055
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,000
Okay.

1056
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:38,400
We saw now it, it goes against what the trend is.

1057
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,640
We have 4,000 yard passer.

1058
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,000
It's just a new trend.

1059
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,680
It's I think sooner enough, this is going to turn into what the trend is.

1060
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:54,120
If it's successful enough, like obviously, if you have a Patrick Mahomes, you want to

1061
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,480
air the ball out all over the field.

1062
01:19:56,480 --> 01:20:01,560
But if you don't have that level of passer, you need yards anyway you can get them.

1063
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:06,760
And even Jaylen Hertz is like one of the better passers in the league, I think.

1064
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:13,500
And they still know that they can get yards with the display time and time again.

1065
01:20:13,500 --> 01:20:17,360
So they keep going back to it mostly, mostly in short yardage situations.

1066
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,920
But we've seen them do it even when it's not short yardage.

1067
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,160
I want to credit Nico on one thing.

1068
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,560
One of the reasons why I give him some of the nicknames is because of the fact of thought

1069
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,100
process.

1070
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:34,880
And I don't know if he mentioned it on a pod or if it was just in conversation.

1071
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:40,040
I believe it was on a pod, so go back and listen to the archived pods.

1072
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,680
He was talking about the new breed of quarterback.

1073
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:51,600
And did we usher in a new breed of quarterback where he was going to have the ball a lot,

1074
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:56,600
not just throwing it, but running it and running it efficiently.

1075
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:05,480
And we're not worried about whether he can take a pounding, sort of speak, pause.

1076
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:08,960
We'll just go ahead and say that.

1077
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,880
I don't need Kendall hitting me up on Twitter.

1078
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,320
I don't need it.

1079
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,520
Kendall, just stop right now.

1080
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:21,720
I know you're listening to this podcast and we're like at the one hour, 15 minute mark

1081
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,400
or whatever.

1082
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,840
Do not tweet me and talk about that.

1083
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,440
Just letting you know.

1084
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:33,160
But I think that you brought up something very key.

1085
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:42,360
If you can't get the guy like a Mahomes, you talked about a different type of game manager.

1086
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:48,160
And I want you to expound on that because I think it's a key point of where the league

1087
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:53,360
is going to go because I think Kirk Cousins is a dinosaur.

1088
01:21:53,360 --> 01:22:01,120
And I think that Jalen Hurts is the velociraptor evolution.

1089
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:08,520
Yeah, I, I, it's crazy to think that because I kind of agree that in some ways the Kirk

1090
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,540
Cousins type is the dinosaur.

1091
01:22:10,540 --> 01:22:21,000
But even like 10 years ago, he was kind of like the modern style of quarterback.

1092
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:26,480
The guy who comes to mind with the modern game manager for me the most, and I really

1093
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:28,740
hope he can get to this level.

1094
01:22:28,740 --> 01:22:32,160
But coming into the league, it was a guy like Trey Lance.

1095
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:37,200
And it's because he could play without making many mistakes.

1096
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,580
He does the West Coast stuff.

1097
01:22:39,580 --> 01:22:40,800
He throws it short.

1098
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,300
He completes it.

1099
01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:45,240
But he also gives you the running element.

1100
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:51,440
It's not something that has happened from quarterbacks back in the past very much.

1101
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:56,480
When I first started watching football seriously, there was a guy in Alex Smith, who was like

1102
01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:02,160
the quintessential game manager, and he had wheels, but they never used it.

1103
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:07,400
Nowadays if Alex Smith were to come into the league, I think he'd be averaging 500 rushing

1104
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,080
yards a year.

1105
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:17,680
And it just adds such an element to your team because the West Coast system you're trying

1106
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:24,600
to make teams defend horizontally rather than vertically because it's difficult to cover

1107
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,040
a very wide NFL field.

1108
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:34,600
Once you add the element of running as well, you have to cover so many more yards of the

1109
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,240
field horizontally.

1110
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:43,320
And it just absolutely puts defenses in a spot where they have nothing to do unless

1111
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,000
they want to play a spy and take a player out of coverage and all of a sudden you get

1112
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,000
dotted up.

1113
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,340
It's clearly, I think, the direction the league is going in.

1114
01:23:53,340 --> 01:24:01,360
If you can't find a guy like Mahomes, if you can find a guy who can be Brock Purdy but

1115
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:11,000
also run the ball and pick up a few yards here and there, you're in a really good spot.

1116
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:17,600
So this is why I hired Nico.

1117
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:18,600
This is why.

1118
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:25,840
Because you know, you know how I feel.

1119
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,600
Because this is what we're talking about, because we are trying to think outside the

1120
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:35,920
box because at the end of the day, Mahomes don't grow on trees.

1121
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,520
Josh Allen's don't really grow on trees.

1122
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:47,640
But you can win a football game with a really good quarterback, not a great quarterback.

1123
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:56,920
And now if you say to him, we're also going to allow you to use your wheels to get yards

1124
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:06,720
and to matriculate us down the field without turning the ball over.

1125
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,360
This seems like it can work.

1126
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:14,680
This seems like a really good idea because the one thing that a lot of old school football

1127
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:20,400
coaches talk about, there are like four things that can happen when a ball is thrown.

1128
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,720
Your quarterback can get sacked.

1129
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,080
It can be incomplete.

1130
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,760
It can be an interception or the positive thing.

1131
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,760
It can be caught.

1132
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:37,840
Now there's a couple other little things with that we can add on to it, but that was the

1133
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:44,840
big the big addition in the early 2010s is we started getting these wide receivers who

1134
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,880
could draw a pass interference calls as well.

1135
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,040
And that became another positive play for the offense.

1136
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:57,880
Now that we're 10 years removed from this, we don't have cornerbacks that are as grabby

1137
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,080
as they used to be.

1138
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:06,000
So that pass interference getting you those significant yards you can get otherwise is

1139
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,520
not as a reliable form.

1140
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:13,880
So we've seen teams move more into the direction of moving the ball sideways.

1141
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:18,760
And we've seen those teams continuously get to the Super Bowl.

1142
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:25,640
And even the Bengals do a great job of it considering that they have a deep passing

1143
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:26,640
attack.

1144
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:32,560
They do a really good job at just sending Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd on slants quite

1145
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,200
often.

1146
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,640
And it just leaves the defense even more confused.

1147
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:46,600
So there I think their needs we're moving into a way where there needs to be two different

1148
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:52,600
ways for your offense to win, be it horizontally, horizontally, vertically or with the running

1149
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,040
game.

1150
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:59,880
And as long as you have two of those things checked off at an elite level, you could be

1151
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,520
a Super Bowl team.

1152
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:06,880
I think at this point, like that's kind of the baseline that you're looking for from

1153
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:07,880
an offense.

1154
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:13,800
And boys and girls, if you want to build a football team, that's exactly how you do it.

1155
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:23,640
You want to minimize risk and you want to highlight the exceptional talents of these

1156
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,520
athletes as far as that's concerned.

1157
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:35,000
And I think that what we might see over the next five to 10 years is Jamar Hearst, but

1158
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,560
a little bit bigger, right?

1159
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,200
Like six, two maybe.

1160
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,840
Maybe two, 15 to 20.

1161
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,360
You don't need them to be a tank.

1162
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:55,200
Super agile, good arm, but protective of the football.

1163
01:27:55,200 --> 01:28:00,120
Our boy at Ohio State came out a little too early, man.

1164
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,120
JT Barrett.

1165
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,440
Yeah.

1166
01:28:04,440 --> 01:28:06,520
It wasn't great quarterback at all.

1167
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,260
No, but he would have.

1168
01:28:09,260 --> 01:28:10,260
He could have managed.

1169
01:28:10,260 --> 01:28:11,640
Like, I'm not saying he would have been a star.

1170
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,280
I'm saying like, what was the dude out of Nevada?

1171
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,280
What's the dude out in Nevada?

1172
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,960
I'm thinking of a whole couple of years ago.

1173
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,960
It was a guy.

1174
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,680
I can't remember.

1175
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:29,360
I feel like JT Barrett stayed a little too long and could have done more coming into

1176
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:30,360
the league.

1177
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:34,560
But we're looking for a certain prototype now in the NFL.

1178
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:40,280
Yes, of course you want the quarterback who has the huge arm.

1179
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:41,940
The accuracy is great.

1180
01:28:41,940 --> 01:28:44,520
The anticipation is great.

1181
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,520
Carson Strong.

1182
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:46,520
Sorry.

1183
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:47,520
Yeah, it is.

1184
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:48,520
It is Carson Strong.

1185
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,760
He got hurt pretty good.

1186
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:51,760
Yeah.

1187
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,800
So that's the type of quarterback you're looking for.

1188
01:28:54,800 --> 01:29:05,120
Somebody who values possessions and has the willingness to run when nothing's out there

1189
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,080
and just go off script.

1190
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:16,240
I wonder if our guy, because he showed it in the Georgia game, is CJ Stroud going to

1191
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:20,000
unleash this part of his game on the NFL?

1192
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,000
Because I'm going to tell you right now, that's what scouts want.

1193
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,960
That's what scouts want from him.

1194
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,720
They saw the Georgia game and that's why.

1195
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:35,680
That's the only reason he's in this top chemistry quarterback.

1196
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:36,680
Yeah.

1197
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,120
It's because of the Georgia game.

1198
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:45,280
So just that little bit of enticement has got him to this level.

1199
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,600
Could you imagine if he was doing this the whole year?

1200
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:52,040
Yeah, he'd been the number one quarterback, I think, without question.

1201
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,200
He might still be the number one quarterback just based off doing it once.

1202
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:06,160
I think part of my struggles with CJ Stroud is he's someone who works very well in structure.

1203
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:12,400
But as soon as the structure starts to break down, I really question what he's going to

1204
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,400
do.

1205
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:20,120
And that's a lot of times when your true football talent comes out and you're outside the structure

1206
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:26,200
so much more in the NFL going up against these elite players than you are in college.

1207
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:32,120
So I think actually bring it back to the Steelers, everyone drink.

1208
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,760
That's why Kenny Pickett was so successful.

1209
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,440
He was kind of the opposite of CJ Stroud.

1210
01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:48,000
He thrived outside of structure, but had a bit of an issue completing passes and actually

1211
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,880
just executing the offense at times, staying in the pocket.

1212
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:57,120
He didn't have to do that very much in Pittsburgh this year because there was breaking down

1213
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,280
constantly and that's part of what helped him thrive.

1214
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,400
He was doing what he was comfortable with.

1215
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:12,300
And when you're not very comfortable with the uncomfortable with someone like CJ Stroud,

1216
01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:17,500
that gives me big question marks in the league.

1217
01:31:17,500 --> 01:31:23,440
The problem with CJ Stroud is the problem with all Ohio State quarterbacks.

1218
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:31,320
You have great talent and unfortunately in the Big Ten, you really don't play against

1219
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:38,520
teams that can handle all the talent that you have because they're going down to Florida

1220
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:44,080
and California to get the speed and skill guys.

1221
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:55,080
Unfortunately, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, they just

1222
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,600
don't have the talent level.

1223
01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:04,520
So the windows that he's thrown into are so large because his talent is so vastly different

1224
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,800
than the other teams.

1225
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:13,760
We never really see him up against talent that is going to look as close to the NFL

1226
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,920
as possible until we saw that Georgia game.

1227
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,920
Georgia game.

1228
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:17,920
Yeah.

1229
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,640
And that's when everything changed.

1230
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:20,640
One game, buddy.

1231
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:21,640
One game.

1232
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:29,280
I just wish I could have seen that type of performance from Stroud a little more.

1233
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:37,040
That leads to part of the problem, I think, with the modern college game.

1234
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:44,880
You're seeing these elite quarterbacks continuously go to programs with other elite quarterbacks.

1235
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:51,600
So they only end up getting 20 starts in college, something like that.

1236
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:58,080
So it makes the evaluation process significantly more difficult than it used to be back in

1237
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,680
the day when you were looking at multiple guys coming into the league with like 50 starts

1238
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,420
by the time they got there.

1239
01:33:05,420 --> 01:33:11,160
So I think that a guy like C.C.

1240
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:18,600
J. Stroud could really thrive once we get in the league, especially based off that game.

1241
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,960
That gives me a lot of hope.

1242
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,440
But the problem is you just you can't know nowadays.

1243
01:33:24,440 --> 01:33:30,460
And that's probably a big part of why we're seeing a very high number of quarterback bus

1244
01:33:30,460 --> 01:33:33,740
versus back in the day when Ryan Leaf was like a rarity.

1245
01:33:33,740 --> 01:33:40,000
Now it feels like every year we're getting a Mitch Trubisky who's basically the like

1246
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:46,160
obviously wasn't as hyped as a guy like Ryan Leaf, but he went in the same area.

1247
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:51,280
The one thing I will say and then I have a personal thought and then we can wrap it up.

1248
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:52,660
But the one thing I will say about C.J.

1249
01:33:52,660 --> 01:33:58,200
Stroud is this is that of the four quarterbacks that everybody's talking about in this top

1250
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:06,240
tier of the draft, he's the one guy that you sit there and you have like the least questions

1251
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,000
about you do question him.

1252
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,000
There are questions about him.

1253
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:18,280
But he's like he's not he doesn't have the greatest arm, but he has a good arm.

1254
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:23,280
He doesn't play off script, but we have the Georgia game.

1255
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:29,240
He doesn't turn the ball over, but how much pressure did he have?

1256
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,640
What teams did he struggle against?

1257
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,440
Penn State, Michigan.

1258
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:34,440
Right.

1259
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:38,520
You didn't struggle in that Georgia game, really, but he did struggle against Penn State

1260
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,760
and Michigan.

1261
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:47,800
So now you look at Anthony Richardson, you look at Bryce Young, you look at Will Levis.

1262
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:55,480
All three of those guys have that one glaring thing and it's glaring where C.J. doesn't

1263
01:34:55,480 --> 01:34:57,360
have the one glaring thing.

1264
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:04,360
A lot of things are like there's some things, but they're not like a beacon from space that

1265
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:09,200
you can see.

1266
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:10,200
I will say it.

1267
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:14,560
I will still say it.

1268
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:22,920
I moved on my quarterback ranking, so, you know, OK, Bryce Young is the number one quarterback.

1269
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:29,360
I am going to buy the guy and I'm going to buy the character and I'm going to buy the

1270
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,640
talent.

1271
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,040
I don't steal.

1272
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:41,400
I still do not know if the physicality is going to cut him literally in half.

1273
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:47,560
Bitch, I pray every time Kyler Murray touched the football.

1274
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:52,400
Now I will have another quarterback that I will be praying for.

1275
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:56,680
You might have to pray even harder for every time he touches the football.

1276
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,960
Man, I am going to be on this dude.

1277
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:07,360
Man, I the first time he steps up in the pocket and gets cranked, I'm going to fucking my

1278
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,720
heart's going to jump out of my chest.

1279
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:18,120
The one thing I worry about is concussions because of the whip, the whiplash action of

1280
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,800
the the the collision.

1281
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:26,120
So the head snapping back and him being small.

1282
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,640
Those are the type of things I think about.

1283
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,200
But I sat there and I was like, you know what?

1284
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,520
I can't do this.

1285
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:35,520
I see the kid.

1286
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:36,600
I see the talent.

1287
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,120
I see the progressions.

1288
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,080
I see the leadership.

1289
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:45,080
I see the calmness when everything is burning down around him.

1290
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,080
So on.

1291
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:50,160
So for me, as much.

1292
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:55,520
As I'm scared about the height, the weight, slender build, all of that, if I'm just going

1293
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,520
off talent.

1294
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,640
He's my number one quarterback and that's what I'm based on.

1295
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,680
Yes, I know he's going to work hard.

1296
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:04,960
I don't think he's going to get in trouble.

1297
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,080
He hasn't shown any propensity for that.

1298
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,080
Oh, no.

1299
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,560
If you look at if you talk to anybody at Tuscaloosa, they'll tell you.

1300
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:12,560
Yeah.

1301
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,120
Prospect outside of the height.

1302
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:21,400
Everything else checks out with flying colors and well, the height and weight, because if

1303
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:25,040
it was just the height, he'd be my number one prospect, too.

1304
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:31,480
But the weight has me questioning it a lot.

1305
01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:36,040
He is an incredible young player and I totally understand having him first.

1306
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,080
I've talked to a lot of people who do have him first.

1307
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:40,600
Then I get it.

1308
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,080
I just I'm just scared.

1309
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:44,720
No, I get it.

1310
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:45,720
I understand why.

1311
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,160
I just got to be bold.

1312
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:52,440
I was sitting there and I was straddling the fence last week and and I sat there and talked

1313
01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:56,360
myself into like CJ Stroud and I was like, well, if you look at everybody else, they

1314
01:37:56,360 --> 01:38:00,560
got all these like real like super glaring issues.

1315
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,480
And then I was thinking to myself, wait.

1316
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:05,480
Bryce Young.

1317
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:09,400
Is very, very talented.

1318
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:15,920
And all the poise and the and the the ability to dissect defenses and things of that nature

1319
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:21,680
that we always look for in quarterback and manipulate the defense to move a certain way.

1320
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,480
These are all things that he does.

1321
01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:30,240
So why am I even though I know that there is this huge albatross around him with the

1322
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:31,240
high weight deal.

1323
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:37,440
I'm going to let that go and I'm just going to look at the talent and the talent tells

1324
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:40,080
me he is QB one.

1325
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,720
I understand the concerns from everybody else.

1326
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,160
They are my concerns, too.

1327
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,200
But I'm a bet on the guy.

1328
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:49,880
I'm a bet on Bryce Young.

1329
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,920
So family fans, roll tide.

1330
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,160
Your guy in my book is QB one.

1331
01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:01,320
I know Nico does not agree with that at all because of the height and weight.

1332
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:02,800
I wouldn't say at all.

1333
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,200
I wouldn't say at all.

1334
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,240
It's just it's hard.

1335
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:07,240
I get it.

1336
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:12,280
Yeah, it's just out of fear that I I don't have him there.

1337
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:21,440
It's more that I'd be scared to take him than I don't think he's the best quarterback.

1338
01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:26,520
This is the most interesting science project we have ever had in the NFL, Nico, and I can't

1339
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:27,520
wait to see it.

1340
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:28,520
Way out there.

1341
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:29,520
I cannot.

1342
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:36,480
Yeah, this draft class is actually pretty huge for that because another guy who I have

1343
01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:39,920
all those questions on is Emmanuel Forbes.

1344
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,520
He's an incredible corner from all the film I've watched.

1345
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:48,440
I wasn't familiar before the combine, but after he showed up, I checked.

1346
01:39:48,440 --> 01:39:52,160
I checked in on him and he is really great.

1347
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:58,800
But a cornerback who is trying to weigh in at one hundred and sixty six pounds is just

1348
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:04,180
something like we've never seen something even close to that before.

1349
01:40:04,180 --> 01:40:07,600
How do you press against Deandre Hopkins?

1350
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,960
I have to press against anyone.

1351
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,880
I you got to play off the whole time.

1352
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,760
So he he's only going to go to very specific situations.

1353
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:25,160
Full coverage teams and like, yeah, but the thing is, you look at him on the field, he

1354
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:29,360
doesn't look like he weighs one hundred and sixty six pounds and he doesn't tackle like

1355
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,960
he weighs one hundred and sixty six pounds.

1356
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:38,240
So it just it gives me the biggest question I've I think I've had in a draft class.

1357
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:43,840
Like I don't this isn't a guy like to to at well who I'm just like writing off my board

1358
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,000
entirely because of the size.

1359
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,200
I can't it it.

1360
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:54,000
It gives me a headache trying to think of the way he's going to work.

1361
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,680
Like it has the league truly gotten this much smaller.

1362
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,040
I I don't think so.

1363
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:05,480
On the he brought up the name that I really am.

1364
01:41:05,480 --> 01:41:09,560
Can you waste the draft pick more?

1365
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:11,280
Then to to at well.

1366
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:12,640
No, no.

1367
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,360
Second round pick.

1368
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:15,360
Yeah.

1369
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:16,360
I'm sorry.

1370
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:22,920
This this part is probably going to go a lot longer than I thought it was going to go,

1371
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,400
but I'm going to get this take off.

1372
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:29,840
How the hell does a round draft of five foot seven, five foot six, one hundred and fifty

1373
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,720
pound wide receiver?

1374
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:33,280
I go.

1375
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:34,280
This is going to work.

1376
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:35,280
Yeah.

1377
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,240
In the second round.

1378
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:38,240
I don't know, man.

1379
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,640
I'm not sure where he would have got taken if you wouldn't have taken him.

1380
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:42,640
I don't think.

1381
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,640
I don't know, but I can't retire.

1382
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:46,640
And that was it, buddy.

1383
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,880
That was what his life was going to be.

1384
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,400
That was what his life was going.

1385
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,000
I wonder if that was like a McVeigh selection.

1386
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,800
Like, I have no idea.

1387
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:01,760
You you would think it was just because he's like an offensive player with so many question

1388
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:02,760
marks.

1389
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,880
You think the head coach would need to bang the table for him.

1390
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:12,040
But I from the minute it happened, I kind of giggled and kind of assumed this was going

1391
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,480
to be the outcome.

1392
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:21,840
Yeah, I want to find the scout and I want to find the I want to find who pounded the

1393
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,360
table for him.

1394
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:24,360
I really do.

1395
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:28,080
And if it is McVeigh, I'm going to say this right now.

1396
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,160
No disrespect to you, sir.

1397
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:34,520
But you can go ahead and go to the TV booth right now.

1398
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:38,480
If that was your if that was your guy that you pounded the table for.

1399
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:43,960
I need you to pound the table for some shitty players.

1400
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,760
Listen, I need you to pound the table for six foot two.

1401
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:53,240
One hundred and ninety five to two hundred pound like fifty, fifty guys that turn them

1402
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,160
into eighty, twenty guys.

1403
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,160
That's what I need you to pound the table for.

1404
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:04,760
I don't need you to pound the table for five foot five hundred and twenty pound dude that

1405
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,160
looks like he's in junior high school.

1406
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,840
I don't need that in my life.

1407
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,240
He's going to play for the Elks in a couple of years.

1408
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:14,920
I can't understand it.

1409
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:19,360
The cornerback that I have been doing a lot of work on is dude out of Illinois.

1410
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,880
Yeah, he's been with their spoon.

1411
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:24,760
He's ridiculous.

1412
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:34,200
If you not seen this guy at all with a spoon is a corner out of Illinois.

1413
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:41,960
And when I tell you that he enjoys physicality, it is a complete understatement.

1414
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,000
He's about can cover.

1415
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:51,440
He can hit and he is around the football all the time.

1416
01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:56,560
We got a couple of corners like that in this class, because a guy like Christian Gonzalez,

1417
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,280
I absolutely love for the same reasons.

1418
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:04,320
He's unafraid to get in the muck behind the line of scrimmage and tackle guys.

1419
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,800
He rarely misses tackles.

1420
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:07,880
Same with with their spoon.

1421
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,720
That's not something you often see out of top cornerback prospects.

1422
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,000
And both of them are incredible coverage players as well.

1423
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,120
But at least we can tell us this physicality.

1424
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:20,760
You look at the traits, you look at the height, look at the weight, you go, OK, that that

1425
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:21,760
makes sense.

1426
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:22,760
Right.

1427
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:23,760
Yeah.

1428
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:29,000
For the people who do not know the cornerback out of Illinois, do me a favor.

1429
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:33,800
Just tell them how tall he is, how much he weighs.

1430
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,120
I'll come up with the exact numbers right now.

1431
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,040
Dude, it's not six feet.

1432
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,360
I'm going to know right now.

1433
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,240
Yeah, no, he is a shorter.

1434
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:51,000
He is a shorter dude who comes up and like displays physicality despite a smaller frame.

1435
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,480
Can't be 200 pounds.

1436
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:54,200
I think he's probably about 190.

1437
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:59,480
I think he's five, five, 10, like three quarter.

1438
01:44:59,480 --> 01:45:01,480
He got five, 11 and a half.

1439
01:45:01,480 --> 01:45:03,440
That's really older than I thought.

1440
01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:05,840
And one eighty one at the combine.

1441
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,920
So he hits like Michael Michael Parsons.

1442
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:14,920
Yeah, he no hyperbole.

1443
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,840
This dude loves to hit people.

1444
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:25,240
Well, to the whistle ball skills to nasty, nasty corner.

1445
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:31,120
He will be the guy who's going to rip off your favorite wide receivers chain.

1446
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,480
He's going to be that guy.

1447
01:45:33,480 --> 01:45:34,480
Yeah.

1448
01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:37,840
So you like that type of player, which I do.

1449
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,360
I like that type of player man with her spoon.

1450
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:46,320
If you're a guy, so please go YouTube some clips on with a spoon, the cornerback out

1451
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,720
of Illinois, if you haven't done it, go do it right now.

1452
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:58,920
And trust me, you will come back to myself and Nico at Frontrunner PC on Twitter and

1453
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:03,820
at Nico F.R.P.C. on Twitter and you give us your thoughts.

1454
01:46:03,820 --> 01:46:11,720
If you are a cornerback need team, just do yourself a favor and just look at him, go

1455
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:15,080
into a dark room, nobody around.

1456
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:17,280
It's going to be very seedy.

1457
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,800
You probably feel very uncomfortable with yourself, but the Nirvana you're going to

1458
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:32,800
feel once you see this kid's tape, you're going to love him for the Canadian bomber.

1459
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:41,360
The Canadian shaman, the Canadian Bill Simmons and the Canadian Mike Tomlin.

1460
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:49,440
Nico, sign us off, let the people know what we might have in store for them Friday since

1461
01:46:49,440 --> 01:46:52,360
we didn't get it done on Friday because of me.

1462
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:56,160
Oh, well, we it was it was because of life.

1463
01:46:56,160 --> 01:47:00,920
It wasn't because of you, but we got some more basketball stuff coming.

1464
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,520
We we've been watching a ton of March Madness.

1465
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:09,280
It'll be good that now we're going to have a few more days to digest the games and maybe

1466
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,480
watch back the ones we missed.

1467
01:47:11,480 --> 01:47:18,440
We'll be covering that as well as the winding down and the NBA season going into the playoffs.

1468
01:47:18,440 --> 01:47:25,640
We got some interesting playoff races, including a few teams in the West that you might you

1469
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,040
might love.

1470
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:31,360
So I think we're going to be covering all that.

1471
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:35,880
We again appreciate you guys so much for tuning in.

1472
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:42,120
And please make sure to check us out on Twitter at Front Runner PC and at Nico F.R.P.C. and

1473
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:43,880
ICO.

1474
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,720
So thank you again so much, guys.

1475
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,640
And we'll talk to you later.

1476
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:54,280
And I have one hot take that I'm going to teams.

1477
01:47:54,280 --> 01:48:00,440
I'm an old guy, but I have a generational take on the NBA that's coming up on Friday

1478
01:48:00,440 --> 01:48:03,080
that is going to set the world of place.

1479
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,480
Yes, it is a strong take.

1480
01:48:05,480 --> 01:48:06,960
Super strong take.

1481
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,760
I'm so excited to drop this situation.

1482
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,520
I put a lot of thought into it.

1483
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,080
So it really is not a take.

1484
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,520
It's actually a thoughtful process.

1485
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:19,800
A lot of people will be really upset about it.

1486
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,000
So can't wait for that.

1487
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:24,400
All right.

1488
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:30,800
We're going to sign off and we will see you guys on Friday.

1489
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:52,240
Take it easy.